I was there and it was an amazing concert. The other part of the program was Schubert 3rd. During the same week Claudio Abbado also conducted the LSO at La Scala with a beautiful Mahler 5th and the suite from the Firebird
I do believe I just witnessed a peak into HEAVEN - with this recording! I swiftly recorded it onto my PC for the glorious posterity of an astounding performance I won’t ever forget! ♥
I believe this to be the most intense and "believed in" of the CK Sevenths we have available. The most "convincing" of our sense that these tempi might just be the way the composer "heard" this music in his head.
Some days earlier, CK had given this program in London to almost universally nasty reviews. Those reviewers ensured that he never conducted in London again. Utter morons - as we can hear. The British (and I am British) have an unpleasant habit of "cutting people down to size" if they think their reputation is overblown. Maybe it was that. Nomatter what there's a special place in hell for music critics who are imbeciles and there are more than a few of them. It isn't a matter of opinion. Who wouldn't kill to hear Beethoven 7 done as well as this today, albeit we have only excerpts (which must mean the whole thing is available somewhere). It sounds almost exactly the same as Kirill Petrenko's effort at the Proms with the BPO a few years ago - which was praised to the skies, rightly. Nice job on the audio by whoever recorded it (RAI?). I heard CK 4 times at the Met. Every performance the work of a genius in the pit. My friend in the cellos of the Met orchestra considered him the greatest he'd played with (and that included Szell, Karajan, Bohm, Levine, Maazel and most of them).
I agree but I can’t understand why such a great conductor let the views of a few people who happened to get paid to write their opinions in a newspaper overshadow the adulation accorded to him, by all accounts, at that London concert.
Karl Böhm??? Comparing Kleiber with Böhm is like comparing Caruso with some random mediocre tenor from the Caruso era. Kleiber doesn't have anything to do with random conductors from his time.
@@classicalemotion Karl Böhm a mediocre conductor? Richard Strauss held him in high esteem. And legendary artists like Fischer-Dieskau, Schwarzkopf or Sviatoslav Richter, to name just a few, also thought extremely highly of him. You should listen to him without prejudice
@@heifetz6382 the quantity of repertoire does not qualify the conductor! Böhm was a great conductor, but Carlos Kleiber is widely regarded as one of the greatest, if not THE greatest conductor of all time. The two can't compete in term of greatness, there's no game Kleiber wins hands down. And that's not a subjective opinion, that's the opinion of the wide majority of living conductors.
I was there and it was an amazing concert. The other part of the program was Schubert 3rd. During the same week Claudio Abbado also conducted the LSO at La Scala with a beautiful Mahler 5th and the suite from the Firebird
Hello Paolo; thank you for putting this into context. I wish I'd been there!
Gracias magnifico
CK had such a limited repertoire that he recorded, but BUT anything that he recorded was absolutely sublime, the greatest.
I do believe I just witnessed a peak into HEAVEN - with this recording! I swiftly recorded it onto my PC for the glorious posterity of an astounding performance I won’t ever forget! ♥
Straordinario! Impressionante!! Un Dio che dirige un Dio!
An excellent recording, Beethoven was clearly ahead of his time.
Thank you! From the excerpts, this sounds like a wonderful performance.
I believe this to be the most intense and "believed in" of the CK Sevenths we have available. The most "convincing" of our sense that these tempi might just be the way the composer "heard" this music in his head.
Some days earlier, CK had given this program in London to almost universally nasty reviews. Those reviewers ensured that he never conducted in London again. Utter morons - as we can hear. The British (and I am British) have an unpleasant habit of "cutting people down to size" if they think their reputation is overblown. Maybe it was that. Nomatter what there's a special place in hell for music critics who are imbeciles and there are more than a few of them. It isn't a matter of opinion. Who wouldn't kill to hear Beethoven 7 done as well as this today, albeit we have only excerpts (which must mean the whole thing is available somewhere). It sounds almost exactly the same as Kirill Petrenko's effort at the Proms with the BPO a few years ago - which was praised to the skies, rightly. Nice job on the audio by whoever recorded it (RAI?). I heard CK 4 times at the Met. Every performance the work of a genius in the pit. My friend in the cellos of the Met orchestra considered him the greatest he'd played with (and that included Szell, Karajan, Bohm, Levine, Maazel and most of them).
I agree but I can’t understand why such a great conductor let the views of a few people who happened to get paid to write their opinions in a newspaper overshadow the adulation accorded to him, by all accounts, at that London concert.
Non era possibile inserirla tutta completa?
Thank you! How different from Karl Böhm's interpretation some years before! Both extraordinary in their own way.
Karl Böhm??? Comparing Kleiber with Böhm is like comparing Caruso with some random mediocre tenor from the Caruso era. Kleiber doesn't have anything to do with random conductors from his time.
@@classicalemotion Karl Böhm a mediocre conductor? Richard Strauss held him in high esteem. And legendary artists like Fischer-Dieskau, Schwarzkopf or Sviatoslav Richter, to name just a few, also thought extremely highly of him. You should listen to him without prejudice
What a nonsense. Karli Böhmerl was a marvelous Kapellmeister and he conducted much more repertoire than CK.
@@heifetz6382 the quantity of repertoire does not qualify the conductor! Böhm was a great conductor, but Carlos Kleiber is widely regarded as one of the greatest, if not THE greatest conductor of all time. The two can't compete in term of greatness, there's no game Kleiber wins hands down. And that's not a subjective opinion, that's the opinion of the wide majority of living conductors.