The Outlast Trials: Program Geister Update - Explained

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  • Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
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    Hello everyone, and welcome to a video where we look at the story behind Red Barrels' latest entry in the Outlast Series, The Outlast Trials!
    CHAPTERS
    Intro - 0:00
    Program Geister - 2:22
    United Fruit - 4:44
    Program Geister Pt. 2 - 7:03
    Historical Refinement - 9:10
    Ex-Pop Classification - 12:18
    New Ending + Theories - 18:23
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  • @GamingHarryYT
    @GamingHarryYT  6 місяців тому +9

    If you're looking for a video on the Winter Update, then you can find it here - ua-cam.com/video/SIJniUHLyr0/v-deo.html

  • @FTZPLTC
    @FTZPLTC 7 місяців тому +597

    When someone brings up that time that the US declared war on a country over cheap fruit and you have to ask them which time.

    • @yokai333
      @yokai333 7 місяців тому +24

      That's a long list

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC 7 місяців тому +40

      @@yokai333 - I mean, it's maybe only two nickels, but it's still weird that it happened twice.

    • @darelldeleon3510
      @darelldeleon3510 7 місяців тому +15

      Banana Republic?

    • @lucre113
      @lucre113 7 місяців тому +8

      Lol INFOREMOVED just dropped stickers about this I wasnt hip before that and now I hear it here

    • @hampal5876
      @hampal5876 6 місяців тому

      I remember one banana war kicked off with a disastrous soccer game

  • @genoveus
    @genoveus 7 місяців тому +350

    Dude the amount of research you do, and the materials that you show on screen with newspaper clips and photos is just awe inspiring and makes the video more interesting to watch.
    Wonderful work.

    • @GamingHarryYT
      @GamingHarryYT  7 місяців тому +63

      Yeah, I bought an annual subscription to The New York Times ‘Timesmachine’. Was really interesting looking for all the old Cold War newspaper reports about the threat of Communism

  • @CaptainUrahara
    @CaptainUrahara 7 місяців тому +83

    Makes sense that the sleeper agent bombs the conference/hotel so it can be seen as an attack from the North Vietnamese, driving the US and South Vietnam closer together.

  • @JussiValtanen
    @JussiValtanen 7 місяців тому +96

    Notice at 19:00 that the ReAgents hands are taped to the steering wheel.
    So even if he noticed and reacted quickly he would have no hope on removing the bomb or even exiting the vehicle. That is also the reason why he/she is twitching their hands in that nervous manner without removing them from the steering wheel.
    So either the second ReAgent was not as well altered as the first one or there is a limit on what a reagent can be forced to do.
    EDIT: Also their heavy breath is clearly done only through their nose. That does not sound it would sound like if you breath heavily through your mouth. So we can assume their mouth is also taped shut.
    Could this be a failed but survived ReAgent who could be put into good use and get rid of at the same time?

    • @spinozilla2421
      @spinozilla2421 7 місяців тому +13

      I feel like just wasn’t well altered, i feel like Reagent that get a low score are given simple suicide task for them to complete

  • @romulus9611
    @romulus9611 7 місяців тому +83

    It would kinda make sense for Murkoff to use sleeper agents in order to commit terrible acts and then blame it on the enemy, they secure for funding for their experiments, its a win for them

  • @JohnSmith-kh4lp
    @JohnSmith-kh4lp 7 місяців тому +58

    I mean, you blow up some of your own and your allies, it becomes real easy to blame your enemies for it

    • @hampal5876
      @hampal5876 7 місяців тому

      THIS

    • @romulus9611
      @romulus9611 7 місяців тому +14

      This is what I was thinking! What better way for both the CIA and Murkoff to secure more funding and support than to use a sleeper agent to attack their own allies and blame it on northern vietnam

  • @CursedMoistMan690
    @CursedMoistMan690 7 місяців тому +28

    I have a theory that the sleeproom will be invaded at some point, imposters finding ways in, and the Ex pops getting more aware of the trials (according to a document)

  • @mcbr9127
    @mcbr9127 7 місяців тому +23

    You have no idea how hilarious it is to listen to this video while doing something else, hearing about the horrors of this Project, then suddenly "These METAL POSTERS BY DISPLATE-"

  • @genichiroashina1
    @genichiroashina1 7 місяців тому +66

    I will support any company that sponsors harry, Videos are too good mate. You earned it!

  • @Pdasniper
    @Pdasniper 7 місяців тому +39

    Had to rebirth 4 times before seeing the new ending. Kind of a weird system. I would imagine someone could be so unlucky as to not get the new ending even longer.

    • @SlviBoySwag
      @SlviBoySwag 7 місяців тому

      I got it 2nd rebirth 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @bleyd__
      @bleyd__ 7 місяців тому

      ​@@SlviBoySwagsame, I assume its 50/50

  • @veryconcernedjesus2584
    @veryconcernedjesus2584 7 місяців тому +14

    The only reasonable explanation to the car bombing at a SV/US meeting is to further push the idea that the Vietcong are a threat as the bombing would be blamed on North Vietnam

  • @Everybodysabitmental
    @Everybodysabitmental 7 місяців тому +30

    My boy Gaming Harry back at it again. Such chill videos to work/fall asleep to so thank you

  • @TAFR224
    @TAFR224 7 місяців тому +18

    It is always a joy to listen to your breakdowns/storytelling and "Lore & Order" series etc etc.
    Thank you so much Mr. Harry for making such great content!🙂

  • @bobgrunsdigger
    @bobgrunsdigger 6 місяців тому +5

    I think it is pretty safe to say that the bombing of that hotel in South Vietnam could easily be Murkoff and the US government provoking a war. Bombing a 'friendship meeting' or whatever it is called on the sign is a great false flag operation. Meet with your allies, bomb goes off (set off by sleeper agent you created but have no traceable ties to), blame the bombing on your enemy who just happens to be North Vietnam, go to war.
    Remember that the entire Vietnam War in reality was based on the Gulf of Tonken Incident, which was a real false flag operation used to justify American troops being deployed. Makes sense to me that the government and Murkoff would be behind a series of attacks that would be used to start a war.

  • @sandman6045
    @sandman6045 7 місяців тому +13

    Wake up baby new Outlast lore video by Gaming Harry is here 😍

  • @TheUltimateShade667
    @TheUltimateShade667 7 місяців тому +9

    17:56
    28 years on this planet and this is the first time I've ever heard anyone else mention the Pseudobulbar affect. Every doctor or psychiatrist I've ever spoken to has never heard of it before I mentioned it to them. Important to note that it can involve uncontrollable fits of crying instead of laughing as is the case with myself.

    • @watchmehope6560
      @watchmehope6560 7 місяців тому +3

      Pretty sure Arthur Fleck (joker) has that lol. Everyone talked about it when the movie dropped.

    • @bleyd__
      @bleyd__ 7 місяців тому +1

      That sounds like Joker's thing :D

  • @damienhouse7706
    @damienhouse7706 7 місяців тому +18

    I think the ending shows that Murkoff may be playing both sides. Like they're also working with the Communists.

    • @irishboi7100
      @irishboi7100 7 місяців тому +2

      Actually wouldn't surprise me in the least the corporations built up of sadists and degenerates they're top dudes literally a nazi scientist so yeah playing both sides to get maximum financial backing and resources is definitely within their methods of operation.

    • @jryan2552
      @jryan2552 7 місяців тому

      Nah. They did this so that they could use the Commies as a scapegoat. The US has done similar things in real life.

  • @avavanpelt926
    @avavanpelt926 7 місяців тому +28

    Hell yeah! I love your channel. Found it recently and I LOVE outlast. Love that you cover it as well.

  • @watchmehope6560
    @watchmehope6560 7 місяців тому +12

    I always get chills when playing Outlast 2 and seeing the Trials building in the distance. Creepy knowing people in that building are being tortured themselves.

  • @youngrootv
    @youngrootv 7 місяців тому +86

    Genuine question, how long do you think that they’ll keep this game going? And do you think they’ll ever make another mainline game that’s not a live service game?
    Love the videos btw man!!

    • @yayo4099
      @yayo4099 7 місяців тому +29

      They already confirmed that they will release Outlast 3 eventually. We don't exactly know when but I will come.
      About the Trials, I think they will add more and more trials over the next years. Just makes sense considering that they were developing this game for the past 3 years or so

    • @piratees
      @piratees 7 місяців тому +6

      @@yayo4099outlast 2 was super cinematic imo, I hope they do another like that one

    • @keeganzimmerer3823
      @keeganzimmerer3823 7 місяців тому +1

      I hope the madness never ends

    • @JudeBoi1313
      @JudeBoi1313 7 місяців тому +4

      The plan is for the devs to hire enough people that they can work on both games simultaneously

    • @dogsoldier123
      @dogsoldier123 7 місяців тому

      ​@@yayo4099They said once trials is finished 3 is next. But my guess is they're working on it at the same time as trials

  • @jaredsmith4919
    @jaredsmith4919 7 місяців тому +21

    Great coverage for the end of the day to listen to. The Berserker reminds me a bit of what happened to Chris Walker?

    • @bleyd__
      @bleyd__ 7 місяців тому

      But was Chris blind though?

    • @jaredsmith4919
      @jaredsmith4919 7 місяців тому

      @@bleyd__ I did say a bit.

    • @erronblack308
      @erronblack308 Місяць тому

      @@bleyd__both mutilate their own face and are extremely strong.

  • @adamdawood7311
    @adamdawood7311 7 місяців тому +8

    Sick vid dude

  • @charlottebreton6796
    @charlottebreton6796 7 місяців тому +11

    I love your videos Harry. I've watched all of them at least twice and look forward to every new upload. Keep up the good work. 🙂

  • @BloodyB0dy
    @BloodyB0dy 7 місяців тому +5

    YEAAAAAAA GAMING HARRY POSTED RAAAAAA ILY MAN

  • @ZanyHyena
    @ZanyHyena 7 місяців тому +4

    WOOOOO HARRY THURSDAYS

  • @GamingHarryYT
    @GamingHarryYT  7 місяців тому +24

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  • @sqarfuls8649
    @sqarfuls8649 7 місяців тому +13

    I love the real-life parallels you pulled for the ending, I do think it's a very simple false flag attack. i.e. blow up your own conference, say the bad guys did it, and now you have cause for escalation of conflict.

  • @Trouble_90210
    @Trouble_90210 7 місяців тому +4

    I'm so glad I found this channel

  • @Kegotback
    @Kegotback 7 місяців тому +1

    Harry honestly thank you for the time you put into these videos. You really put each game you review story's together with all that you have at your disposal in terms of the information. You make everything flow so easily, it makes understanding the story of the game especially in this case, Outlast Trials smooth. So thank you once again very much. The work never goes unnoticed. Your speech is top notch as well with how you illustrate how the documents connect. If you ever wrote a book I'd buy it.

  • @djdavila1095
    @djdavila1095 6 місяців тому +2

    Something I think could possibly be interesting: Could Perry's letter about the typos and sloppy dates also mean that some of the documents that we read are out of order? The Perry letter could seem like a small, almost unimportant document but could be a warning that the lore is ordered differently.
    Also, the ending with the car bombing could be in relation to the irl 1964 Brinks Hotel Bombing that happened in Saigon and resulted in American casualties. This mixed with the Gulf of Tonkin incident really contributed to amping up US military and political involvement in South Vietnam. The car bombing in Outlast seems like it was still set up by the CIA. The CIA and the US Government would blame the car bombing on Viet Cong operatives (if it follows the real life events). If the US government wanted to go into South Vietnam more, the CIA and Murkoff used the reagent in this case to show North Vietnamese aggression and could be used a political reason for the public to agree to the war.

  • @heyitscara19
    @heyitscara19 7 місяців тому +5

    Hearing UFCO and Guatemala feels so weird after writing my term paper on the subject haha

  • @benjaminaltube8731
    @benjaminaltube8731 7 місяців тому +16

    Outlast turned into "The US government sucks in any given time" saga and I'm all for it

    • @artemisfowl1862
      @artemisfowl1862 Місяць тому

      Well the main Antagonist is one of the most corrupt fictitious companies in the world, and this is looking deeper into its interpersonal lore along with Ex human experiment ops. I dont think we're gonna see the concepts "Clean" or "Honest" and "Murkoff" in the same room together lmao

  • @emilyjades
    @emilyjades 7 місяців тому

    Love your coverage of Outlast, I’ve been devouring your videos lately!

  • @AC-wz9vd
    @AC-wz9vd 7 місяців тому +3

    Awesome video man

  • @moss8807
    @moss8807 7 місяців тому +2

    When me and my homies agree on something, call that United Fruit!

  • @vbbrothers
    @vbbrothers 7 місяців тому +9

    Huh so there IS a new ending? I thought so seeing the teasers and the fact that Gooseberry was chasing me instead of Coyle but I still woke up in that damn hotel room. Guess I'll grind out program X untill I get it I guess :/

  • @ecnonomosstan5811
    @ecnonomosstan5811 7 місяців тому +2

    This video is incredible. I love laying on my side in bed just binging your lore videos. I'm usually too much of a coward to play scary games but I find the lore and concepts so, so fascinating, so having someone (with a very good voice) go through it for me is ideal. Thank you!
    Also, would you consider covering The Vanishing of Ethan Carter? I just finished that game but in true scaredycat fashion there was a maze segment I didn't finish. Still, it's a short and sweet game with some interesting concepts I really liked, and I'd love to hear your take on everything I'm sure I missed

  • @PhysarumVR
    @PhysarumVR 7 місяців тому +15

    As much as i am really enjoying the game and its updates i still would have preferred a single player/co-op game that isn't live service.
    Still great video as always though!

    • @bleyd__
      @bleyd__ 7 місяців тому +3

      Its a nice break from typical Outlast experience. I really like mastering games so its perfect for me with all these trials. We're gonna get Outlast 3 but some time later, let them cook a banger for us cause the story is awesome so far.

  • @danfawks7164
    @danfawks7164 7 місяців тому +6

    In the future we might get an ending were the main characters wakes up flying towards NY

    • @w1zzard_
      @w1zzard_ 6 місяців тому

      I think every ending would be different to some real life event

  • @JC_-ol1xo
    @JC_-ol1xo 7 місяців тому +3

    Love to see it

  • @jordanford937
    @jordanford937 7 місяців тому

    Hey great work I don’t know if you ever look at recommendations but a series id think go well would be the Onimusha series… I think with your talent that would be great content.

  • @zayde2316
    @zayde2316 7 місяців тому +5

    Let’s goooooo

  • @piyoweb
    @piyoweb 7 місяців тому +6

    Imagine they did all these experiments on human just for the sake of cheap fruits 😂😂😅😅

  • @mitykro
    @mitykro 7 місяців тому +4

    Super sick awesome, love the content and i love you... huh wow

  • @renamon5658
    @renamon5658 7 місяців тому +5

    Cool game

  • @keeganzimmerer3823
    @keeganzimmerer3823 6 місяців тому +1

    Hope you make a video on the winter kills event in this game. Hope that there is more lore for you to discover and that you will cover on this channel thank you for the video really enjoying the lore of this game

    • @GamingHarryYT
      @GamingHarryYT  6 місяців тому +1

      I’ve done it and it’ll be out in a few hours time

  • @beserkpotato2949
    @beserkpotato2949 7 місяців тому +3

    I want to keep playing this game so bad but I'm such a scaredy cat I physically can't do it alone

    • @bug8639
      @bug8639 7 місяців тому +1

      i can play with you if youd like

  • @francel0198
    @francel0198 6 місяців тому +2

    Maybe the South Vietnam sequence is about using the car bomb as an excuse to get the USA more involved in Southeast Asia (as they did in real life)

  • @bleyd__
    @bleyd__ 7 місяців тому +1

    Finally new Outlast vid, love your breakdowns man

  • @nore5992
    @nore5992 7 місяців тому +1

    I think that the Berserker is very identical to the Huge Skald guy in Outlast 2.

  • @demonsrmyfrendz
    @demonsrmyfrendz 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm thinking that (in game at least) the Vietnamese government and people may have been a bit reluctant to solidify an alliance with the US (for very valid reasons, obviously) or they couldn't agree on terms (that would end up benefiting the US far more than Vietnam). Knowing this and wanting to force things along, US officials secretly send a Reagent strapped with a bomb to a well publicized event with both Vietnamese and US officials. The blame for the attack is pinned on the Vietcong and other dissenters, effectively scaring the Vietnam government into signing an allyship agreement with (very) unfavorable terms.
    TL;DR: US officials use a Reagent to secretly bomb their own, and Vietnamese government officials to scare Vietnam into signing an unfavorable allyship agreement. Democracy wins!

  • @m_Alice
    @m_Alice 7 місяців тому +3

    ❤❤❤

  • @cheesewheel3551
    @cheesewheel3551 7 місяців тому +5

    Sickest game series ever

  • @LocalMercenary
    @LocalMercenary 7 місяців тому

    When did Fleshpounds get added?

  • @robbie_the_mastermind2176
    @robbie_the_mastermind2176 6 місяців тому

    Berzerkers remind me of fleshpounders from Killing floor.

  • @DereckDoyle
    @DereckDoyle 3 місяці тому

    LMAOO WHYD VERNICKY ROLL LIKE THAT 3:16

  • @chocolate_gore
    @chocolate_gore 6 місяців тому +1

    See, the docs speculate that it’s the pushers who leak the documents…but that would be too easy.
    It would be very interesting and in line for Murkoff to be betrayed by an employee. One who works closely with the Reagents perhaps. Hates his job. Is there against his will himself. And - because it would be poetic with even his and Waylons overalls sharing an olive and beige colour scheme - is not a Doctor, but an engineer of sorts.
    A person that would on the other hand be easily disposable for Murkoff because he is seen to be a second class citizen in America. Murkoff isn’t above making use of racial profiling, think back to what happened to Omar when Chris was submitted to Mount Massive. Someone who just so happens to be the counterpart to a wildly hateful antagonist who hates his "kind".
    Ya I am deathly afraid for Cornelius, especially with Leland, a professional xenophobe, existing close by

  • @msbkaioken136
    @msbkaioken136 7 місяців тому +5

    How often does this game get updates is it gonna be only like once a year around October?

    • @bleyd__
      @bleyd__ 7 місяців тому

      we'll see, so far it was the biggest update since launch and they added some weekly trial. I assume its gonna be like one big update (main programs) per 6-12 months and some smaller events between updates

    • @msbkaioken136
      @msbkaioken136 7 місяців тому +1

      @@bleyd__ Yeah, okay, then this game is really good. I quite like it. It's better than I thought. It was going to be or at least feared. It was going to be but one thing is definitely falling into place exactly as I thought it was going to be. It launches, it's cool, then it dies for basically a year. Then it comes back for a little bit. Then it's gonna die again for like a year until they just stop making updates. And that's gonna be that just. Why does it have to be multiplayer? Just make a single player game. The superior form of gaming actually finished games. Please, I hate live service nonsense.

  • @CyberBread
    @CyberBread 4 місяці тому

    The ending is probably implying that they were trying to frame the attack on Soviet Russia or the NVA

  • @jakedizzle
    @jakedizzle 7 місяців тому

    I really wish this game would come out on the PS5. I was playing the first game again the other day. Still makes me jump. Edit: I just saw early 2024 after searching.

    • @bleyd__
      @bleyd__ 7 місяців тому

      yeah, probably after they end "early access"

  • @emilybroderick2421
    @emilybroderick2421 19 днів тому

    Every time I check back in for the latest Outlast lore, I come away looking at Murkoff like "did you really need to do all that?" 😂 Like, they're evil but their primary objective is to make money, and these projects seem very cost-inefficient. At what point in the Sleeper Agent Funtime Torture Program do you go from high risk-high reward to plain old financial mismanagement? Monsanto ain't doing all that 😂

    • @GamingHarryYT
      @GamingHarryYT  19 днів тому +1

      The CIA are footing the bill, and I’d imagine Murkoff are keeping a fair chunk of the money for themselves. They probably get more money per released reagent too

  • @alef0811
    @alef0811 5 місяців тому

    The South Vietnam bombing could possibly be a false flag incident perpetrated by the CIA to rally support for the Vietnam War. That makes the most sense to me I think.

  • @theilliad4298
    @theilliad4298 3 місяці тому

    Im still confused on why those deviants are in the trials

  • @PlayNiceFolks
    @PlayNiceFolks 7 місяців тому

    I'm not waiting for the PS5 release. I NEED TO KNOW

  • @PlayNiceFolks
    @PlayNiceFolks 7 місяців тому +2

    I wonder if Reagan era conservatives still defend such things.

  • @WoofWitch
    @WoofWitch 5 місяців тому +1

    A banana republic isn't a nation dependant on a specific fruit export, it's one that through extreme economic pressure, and corruption is dependant upon and basically owned by a corporation or group of corporations. Also if you're gonna bring up United Fruits (especially in regard to Castro critising them) you should probably mention the US government loaning them the navy to invade small nations and seize their land to grow crops on, and basically enslaving the populations as workers

    • @erronblack308
      @erronblack308 Місяць тому

      The focus is outlast not history. In case you somehow forgot. In that case, don’t record history. There really is no need to mention every little thing. And if he messed one thing up? Oh no big whoop. It’s not hard to fact check these things is it? It already happened.

    • @WoofWitch
      @WoofWitch Місяць тому

      @@erronblack308 Context is important, this is fact checking, and most people don't look things up if someone in a video explains something to them, they should, but they don't, so spreading misinformation is harmful and you should be held accountable

  • @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962
    @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 6 місяців тому +1

    It is hilarious how the devs try to stitch their game to world history. It is like making a skull-faced jack-in-the-box to scare kids and then taping the "Poor Yorick" dialogue from Hamlet to give the jack-in-the-box more meaning. It is pretentious as hell and very inorganic.

    • @GamingHarryYT
      @GamingHarryYT  6 місяців тому +6

      Apart from the fact that a lot of this stuff actually happened. It’s heavily dramatised for entertainment purposes, but I wouldn’t say it’s pretentious at all

    • @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962
      @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 6 місяців тому

      @@GamingHarryYT I know the history happened, but the manner by which they go out of their way to justify "deeper lore" with history just seems like a lot of overcompensation for what is essentially an episodic horror game. It does not mesh well at all. It feels forced and contrived, kinda like Doom with its Hell on Mars, but without the cheeky irony. It is too earnest. RE4, for instance, KNOWS it has a cheesy premise and embraces it (even in the remake witha Reagan-voiced Saddler). This game is just silly.
      That all said, I love your work and respect it.

    • @erronblack308
      @erronblack308 Місяць тому

      Nobody agrees.

    • @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962
      @falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 Місяць тому

      @@erronblack308 do not care, MK reject.

  • @DaLordIsBack1
    @DaLordIsBack1 7 місяців тому +6

    There isn't a single British person alive that watches American sports lol

  • @leaflizard8485
    @leaflizard8485 7 місяців тому +2

    Weaponized STD? What…?

  • @saschaberger3212
    @saschaberger3212 7 місяців тому +1

    Typical murica

  • @TheAriesend
    @TheAriesend 6 місяців тому

    God the US is so evil 😭

    • @AfroWolf420
      @AfroWolf420 Місяць тому

      So are any other countries

  • @LucasSilva-mw8kl
    @LucasSilva-mw8kl 7 місяців тому +1

    I know it's for narrative purposes only, but there's no such thing as "Ex-nazi"