I won't say Steph clears, but i do think its a realistic discussion to have if this happens. I also hope that will objectively solidify Steph's place in the top 10.
Aye what’s crazy is a guy that made all defensive 10x & we be ahead in every othe statistical category is getting cleared by a back back champion with the only other all star being Pau gasol
You can make the argument but clears is insane especially when you idk factor both sides of the ball and starting off with western conference finals mvp nasty
There is no argument steph has the weakest case to be in the top 10 if u remove the "changed the game" narrative which is bs anyways. Has the worst finals loss by far in history, has only 2-3 standout playoff series including the finals, only has 2 rings where he was the best player on the roster and besides threes doesn't rank highly on any other all time lists
yall really be making it easy for haters to be born now, this shit is insane, please calm down guys I just saw that this shit is from 1 year ago lmao yall be wanting the smoke at this point
Top 3 for me just like solz (LeBron #1 tho) but magic and duncan lock 4 & 5 for me , then that bird curry kobe shaq convo come up. I also don’t like ranking Russell and wilt so high because I feel like they were just not that skilled and their talents have been superseded
I can understand that. My only question is how much weight does winning hold for you? Cuz even tho the era was considerably weak, bro still had 11 rings. So how much weight does rings hold for other players, I guess is what I’m asking? I do like how you structured your list, tho. Just that small question
I agree… but I hate that people use “clears” or “washes” it’s like… do we even know what that means?? This isn’t to ole boy but in general. Like clears has no value anymore 😭😭😭
The funny thing is people born in 1995 until now top ten rankings are trash 😂 , how can one ways/ only good on offense players being in the top ten is crazy , if u have no first team defense all nba teams, u can't be considered a top ten player
So let's reverse it Bill Russell is in many people's top 10 with bad offense, dude never averaged more than 19 points. Magic who is in some people's top 5s doesn't any a single all-defensive team either
It’s a convo. Not to the degree that Omar is gassing it to be, but it’s definitely a convo. If he gets five, I’m gonna say that he’s Fs better than Kobe, but CLEARS is crazy
What makes a top 10 player? Cause it just seems like their ratings scale goes off of the eye test, rings, and potentially narratives. All top 10 players have more than 3 rings so curry getting an extra ring shouldnt move the needle much honestly
I’ll say this curry is a better ball handler, shooter, and slightly better passer but Kobe is better at everything else but curry I have him rank 7 over magic tbh
wtf are you sayin dawg, first of all, kobe aint over guys like kareem, duncan, magic which all are arguable 3rd spot and second of all how are you going to say he’s only seen disrespect since he passed, i mean that sentence is just disrespectful in it self, also it’s bullshit. kobe got even more respect since he died idk whatchu talkin bout bro you trippin
@@icywhyy he is though at most on his one other all-star and 5 rings back to back without Shaq and three peated with him, his playoff history is arguably the hardest in terms records, beat tim Duncan most of the time on great all around roasters, had one the best scoring seasons of all time in the slowest most defensive oriented era. Do I really need to go on. Longevity is the only thing these players have on him 😭
@@warv6039most of the time kobe beat Tim he had Shaq he only beat Tim once in a playoff series post Shaq and when he did beat Duncan he had the better team as most of the other guys outside of the big 3 were either retired or about to retire
@@Sqeaky6969 did the 2008 spurs have injuries or something? since you think Duncan better, Duncan > Kobe, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili > Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, Bruce Bowen > Derek Fisher. Are Vladamir Radmonovic, Sasha Vujacic and Luke Walton really that much better than the rest of the spurs I didn't name???
@@BEDCORN Bruce bowen wasn't on the team anymore, like I said outside of the big 3 the rest of the roster was either retiring or retired so even tho Duncan was imo better than Kobe they were like either the 1st or second best players in the world whichever one u think is better they were extremely close. At that point manu was injured as well Tony was fine but not quite in his prime yet so him and Pau were basically even. Overall the Lakers team was better yes idc about the names I'm sure if u actually look at stats they were outperforming the spurs role players
kobe is over magic.. tf. magic had one of the best supporting casts ever, kobe went to 3 straight finals and won 2 with pau gasol being his only other all star
@@Nooblet92Ca exactly plus worthy, scott & cooper. Plus if you were there for those runs you know the last two rings of the 3peat dont happen without kobe balling out. its was 1A & 1B. but even in that sense I didnt even talk about the 3 rings with shaq just the one where he was the clear best player w/ pau.
@@amapnamedpam bro even so shaq clears against the east centers I’m those 3 peats most people can’t even name the centers Shaq face against without googling it
Kobe had a longer prime and longer sequence of dominance than Shaq. With more accolades to boot. Shaq post LA was a journeyman living off of his name more than his game. From his early Frobe days up until he ruptured his Achilles at like age 37 he gave us nothing short of peak basketball artistry.
@@JglockNatethe only thing Shaq has over him is FMVP. Everything else is in Kobe's favor. If you think Jordan is better than Shaq, then Kobe is objectively better. They have the same criteria
Top 3 for me just like solz (LeBron #1 tho) but magic and duncan lock 4 & 5 for me , then that bird curry kobe shaq convo come up. I also don’t like ranking Russell and wilt so high because I feel like they were just not that skilled and their talents have been superseded
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Clears is insane lol jeez Omar
I won't say Steph clears, but i do think its a realistic discussion to have if this happens.
I also hope that will objectively solidify Steph's place in the top 10.
Man I’m not even about to have this conversation with y’all 😂🤦🏾Y’all niggas can have it.
How is it a discussion
KD, Kobe and Curry being interchangeable is nasty😂
This new ecf/wcf mvp bs is gonna make ppl look at retired players diff. Counting awards that haven't even existed 2 yrs yet
They already do the stupid shit with Bill Russell. No one wants to admit he’d be the goat if he had 5-10 DPOYs 😅😅
The amount of hot takes this podcast has is actually impressive 😅
Aye what’s crazy is a guy that made all defensive 10x & we be ahead in every othe statistical category is getting cleared by a back back champion with the only other all star being Pau gasol
Having KD in your top 10 is WILD😂
Sage is either PISSED or crying
You can make the argument but clears is insane especially when you idk factor both sides of the ball and starting off with western conference finals mvp nasty
There is no argument steph has the weakest case to be in the top 10 if u remove the "changed the game" narrative which is bs anyways. Has the worst finals loss by far in history, has only 2-3 standout playoff series including the finals, only has 2 rings where he was the best player on the roster and besides threes doesn't rank highly on any other all time lists
@Sqeaky6969 exactly considering everyone else in the top 10 changed the game stephs case is pretty weak he's definitely top 15 though
@@camwilson2583no one in the top 10 changed the way basketball is played saying he has no argument is crazy asl
No one changed it to the level of Steph
@nonosecurry4491 wilt is arguably top 10 and forced multiple rules changes to make him a lil less dominant I'd name more but one is enough
1. MJ
2. Bron
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Bird
6. Duncan
7. Kobe
8. Shaq
9. Curry
10. Russell
11. Wilt
12. Hakeem
i like this
curry not top10
Duncan > Bird
The Kobe disrespect is unreal. Omar snorting sour punch straws.
agreed. I usually see people gawking Kobe but saying Curry or even KD > Kobe is absolutely ridiculous
Mj, Kobe, Bron. Everyone else is subjective.
Curry all defensive teams:0 Kobe:9
yall really be making it easy for haters to be born now, this shit is insane, please calm down guys
I just saw that this shit is from 1 year ago lmao yall be wanting the smoke at this point
Top 3 for me just like solz (LeBron #1 tho) but magic and duncan lock 4 & 5 for me , then that bird curry kobe shaq convo come up. I also don’t like ranking Russell and wilt so high because I feel like they were just not that skilled and their talents have been superseded
I can understand that. My only question is how much weight does winning hold for you? Cuz even tho the era was considerably weak, bro still had 11 rings. So how much weight does rings hold for other players, I guess is what I’m asking? I do like how you structured your list, tho. Just that small question
I agree… but I hate that people use “clears” or “washes” it’s like… do we even know what that means?? This isn’t to ole boy but in general. Like clears has no value anymore 😭😭😭
Maybe in another dimension
Nah this one buddy y’all do anything to try and not put curry in the top ten conversation so bad when he’s good to be at 6 rn
@@JglockNatecurry over kobe is beyond insane
@JglockNate Never said he's not top 10. Actually read before commenting, smart one.
@@rmelo2382not rrly people keep disrespecting curry’s longevity play making and do anything to discount what he does.
@@Ace-0f-Spadez insanity so basketball is only offense
Bro snuck in Curry > Duncan 😂
The funny thing is people born in 1995 until now top ten rankings are trash 😂 , how can one ways/ only good on offense players being in the top ten is crazy , if u have no first team defense all nba teams, u can't be considered a top ten player
So let's reverse it Bill Russell is in many people's top 10 with bad offense, dude never averaged more than 19 points. Magic who is in some people's top 5s doesn't any a single all-defensive team either
Free yourself from accolades. Look at stats. Yea kobe was a good defender and curry not but thats not determined by defensive first teams.
Kobe is at my 8th Curry is like my 11th or 12th
Cap there’s no way you still think bird and magic are still better than curry when curry has proven to be better than them a while ago
@JglockNate bird and magic are both top 5. Curry just entered top 10. Better and greater are two diff things
@@Intr0verticalbird isn't top 10 bruh
@@JglockNatewhat has curry done to prove to be better than bird or magic?
@JglockNate those are top 5 players all time curry jus touched top 10 depending on your list
why is this old clip here
was this made before the playoffs ?
Omar=SAS 😂
@BigIssue-Tune Rob Parker
If curry wins another championship and finals mvp he passes tim kobe and magic
It’s definitely debatable but clears is a stretch
Is this a recent video or a reupload of a clip from a pod?
Is this an old clip?
It’s a convo. Not to the degree that Omar is gassing it to be, but it’s definitely a convo. If he gets five, I’m gonna say that he’s Fs better than Kobe, but CLEARS is crazy
KD interchangeable????
So it’s confirmed Low be trolling with the Kobe shit he got bro doing it now lol
And this is why we dont Listen to dudes opinions
What makes a top 10 player? Cause it just seems like their ratings scale goes off of the eye test, rings, and potentially narratives. All top 10 players have more than 3 rings so curry getting an extra ring shouldnt move the needle much honestly
Kobe > Curry. Kobe is a better defender and he clutch in the fourth quarter
nahhhhhhhhhh. I HATED Kobe growing up but I don't think I can put Steph above him. Steph had more stability than Kobe and Kobe did more for his teams.
if steph clears than tim duncan has to super mario triple jump over kobe than
Isn't curry legacy already set n stone
lechock 0 ring without team hopping and superteams. dude isn't even top 5 all time. lmao can't even play defense or make playoffs with prime ad lmao
I’ll say this curry is a better ball handler, shooter, and slightly better passer but Kobe is better at everything else but curry I have him rank 7 over magic tbh
Omar’s opinions are invalid
Honestly it’s not even top 10 anymore it’s top 15
Steph is a better offensive player but that’s about it.
So Steph is better on one side and Kobe is better on the defensive side
@@ecoblitz3655 yeah pretty much. Kobe a elite 2 way player and Steph’s an elite offensive player
Clears???
This should’ve been a discussion I love Kobe but some of his fans are some R words
Kobe is not top 5 ? !?!?
LaMelo Ball clears Kobe Bryant is my hot take
Yeah just keep that to yourself 😂
That's cold as hell, dude isn't even top 25 rn
Kobe top 3 only seen disrespect since he passed
wtf are you sayin dawg, first of all, kobe aint over guys like kareem, duncan, magic which all are arguable 3rd spot and second of all how are you going to say he’s only seen disrespect since he passed, i mean that sentence is just disrespectful in it self, also it’s bullshit. kobe got even more respect since he died idk whatchu talkin bout bro you trippin
@@icywhyy he is though at most on his one other all-star and 5 rings back to back without Shaq and three peated with him, his playoff history is arguably the hardest in terms records, beat tim Duncan most of the time on great all around roasters, had one the best scoring seasons of all time in the slowest most defensive oriented era. Do I really need to go on. Longevity is the only thing these players have on him 😭
@@warv6039most of the time kobe beat Tim he had Shaq he only beat Tim once in a playoff series post Shaq and when he did beat Duncan he had the better team as most of the other guys outside of the big 3 were either retired or about to retire
@@Sqeaky6969 did the 2008 spurs have injuries or something? since you think Duncan better, Duncan > Kobe, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili > Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, Bruce Bowen > Derek Fisher. Are Vladamir Radmonovic, Sasha Vujacic and Luke Walton really that much better than the rest of the spurs I didn't name???
@@BEDCORN Bruce bowen wasn't on the team anymore, like I said outside of the big 3 the rest of the roster was either retiring or retired so even tho Duncan was imo better than Kobe they were like either the 1st or second best players in the world whichever one u think is better they were extremely close. At that point manu was injured as well Tony was fine but not quite in his prime yet so him and Pau were basically even. Overall the Lakers team was better yes idc about the names I'm sure if u actually look at stats they were outperforming the spurs role players
Bad take
If Curry and Magic are neck and neck and Magic is over Kobe, that means Curry is already over Kobe.
kobe is over magic.. tf. magic had one of the best supporting casts ever, kobe went to 3 straight finals and won 2 with pau gasol being his only other all star
@@amapnamedpameveryone mentions that Kobe had shaq, but no one says anything about magic when he had Kareem.
@@Nooblet92Ca exactly plus worthy, scott & cooper. Plus if you were there for those runs you know the last two rings of the 3peat dont happen without kobe balling out. its was 1A & 1B. but even in that sense I didnt even talk about the 3 rings with shaq just the one where he was the clear best player w/ pau.
@@amapnamedpam bro even so shaq clears against the east centers I’m those 3 peats most people can’t even name the centers Shaq face against without googling it
@@amapnamedpam having Kobe over Magic is highly debatable.
No way Kobe is above Shaq
He is tho
He definitely is
He the better play at some point the accolades being over valued gotta stop just cause Shaq got a lil more accolades don’t mean he better than Kobe
Kobe had a longer prime and longer sequence of dominance than Shaq. With more accolades to boot. Shaq post LA was a journeyman living off of his name more than his game. From his early Frobe days up until he ruptured his Achilles at like age 37 he gave us nothing short of peak basketball artistry.
@@JglockNatethe only thing Shaq has over him is FMVP. Everything else is in Kobe's favor.
If you think Jordan is better than Shaq, then Kobe is objectively better. They have the same criteria
Had to click on the vid purely of the videos title being top 10 hot takes of all time up there with Jesus being white
Top 3 for me just like solz (LeBron #1 tho) but magic and duncan lock 4 & 5 for me , then that bird curry kobe shaq convo come up. I also don’t like ranking Russell and wilt so high because I feel like they were just not that skilled and their talents have been superseded