Awesome Chris! With you as my inspiration I am just a few short days away from driving my grandsons 1949 Willys CJ3A with the Predator 212. I have asked you a good number of questions and you have graciously answered them. After we get everything running and working well we will need to put new floors in the body and freshen up the rest of the body and prime and paint. This project has been a true complete frame off restomod. I am painting everything that I added to the Willys Jeep a different color so that folks can see what was added as you have. I was able to add all my pillow block framework and engine mount framework with using existing holes in the frame. One difference is that I am using a 30 series belt drive Torque Converter and then chain drive to the shaft and coupler. I would love to send you some pictures but I can't on this. Thanks again for being an inspiration for this project for my Grandson with CP!
Thanks Mike, I appreciate it. Next video I may wear my Mike Festiva Quadtruck T-shirt 😂. And yes I'm serious I really do have one , my way to support the channel!
I was really hopeful that Robot Cantina from Haven, KS would repower his old school Honda Insight with a Predator V-Twin and it was a project that never happened which I'm really bummed about. He did the small engines, but never the V-Twin. A car that is so aerodynamically efficient with a v-twin, aluminum, and light-weight body, would make for a wonderful road tripper.
its going to be cool . you know its a air cooled engine put a hood scoop on it just big enough to cover the engine and when your driving it will blow all that air down on top of the engine . and it will still look cool . god bless brother
Love your videos and look forward to seeing more of this. I've on the lookout for a rolling shell Miata to turn into an offroad buggy with an old air cooled VW engine
You've got it worked out! I would have been tempted to situate the engine lower between the MG frame rails so the hood would close, which would cause some head scratching and math to figure out the drive belts.
Very cool, can't wait to see the next video! Just keep in mind, the 670s are jetted slightly differently on each cylinder as compensation for the asymmetrical muffler. I'd recommend a re-jet of the carb at the very least, but the factory intake manifold flows so poorly to fit in a compact space, there's better options available.
Glad to see a knew one I’ve definitely been interested to build something in between using truck transmission and rear end and a 10 horse diesel I’m thinking make my own frame and body for it like a tiny rat rod truck
I'm Telling you Chris, if it was me I would have cut the end off of the crankshaft from the original engine, then I would have bored a blind hole in it the same size of the output shift of the engine. Then I would use that to mount the original flywheel and clutch to the engine. Then you could lower the engine about 4 or so inches and get it under the hood. Keep building Chris
I don't believe it would be enough power you'd probably never get it in third or fourth gear and it would be weak in first. Got to have gear reduction to make it work. Thanks for watching.
@ChrisfromKeyfarm the flywheel stores torque through momentum that will help it accelerate. And then once the flywheel gets up to speed it will save energy for the gear shifts.
@No1414body a heavy flywheel is useful to store centrifugal force energy for use for a small amount of time. In this application I believe you need a more constant even torque , not much use for a massive amount of torque for a few seconds. 👍
@no1414body it's been done before, I saw a video where a guy did it with a Miata. The factory flywheel is balanced for the factory engine and the vibrations eventually snapped the crank of the Predator. Also, the ball bearings used for the crankshaft on these little engines are great for handling the side load of a belt or chain, but suffer under the thrust load of depressing a conventional clutch. That, plus the gear reduction needed means you need some step down. For my money, I like your idea of mounting the engine lower and inline with the trans, but I'd have used a CVT or jackshaft to get the gear reduction needed.
I didn't even know that there were any MG cars still available. I was worried that most of them had already completely rusted away. Probably less common but I always liked the MG Triumph Spitfire.
@ChrisfromKeyfarm Thanks, that's good to know. I just cannot seem to find any (MG's not just triumphs) cheaper than $3000. I must be looking in the wrong places. Although I don't have a Facebook account or visit marketplace. As I thought that you needed a marketplace account, which I don't have or know how to set one up.
Reinventing the Japanese KEI car. KEI vehicles from Japan have 550cc to 650cc engines and must stay within certain defined dimensions. If you like small engine vehicles you might want to check out some KEI vehicles.
🌴🤔wondering what kinda gas mileage your gonna get ? So your doing what I wish I could do been wanting to do a big sport bike motor into a small car , a Toyota MR2 with a hyabusa motor , but even that MG midget with a big bike motor as it would have a bit more giddy up and go ! As for the 45 mph speed limit that would be somewhere in between 1st and second gear 😆👍🏼
That sounds like a great idea and I know of one guy that's actually done it check out a UA-cam channel called JJ garage he's got a sport bike engine in an MG
Turkish Suzuki samurai cut the input shaft put a Honda shaft drive motorcycle motor in front of it 25 forward gears gears and five reverse clutch from the motorcycle motor
That sounds interesting, could you expand on what you mean? How is a Turkish Samurai different, what honda motor and where'd all those gears come from?
I've got the same thing planned! In Australia we call them a Suzuki Sierra and I have a Bandit 1250 I'll be retiring soon. 30 forward gears + 6 reverse + low range and 11k rpm rev limiter. I'll make sure to get a video up when it happens.
Awesome Chris!
With you as my inspiration I am just a few short days away from driving my grandsons 1949 Willys CJ3A with the Predator 212.
I have asked you a good number of questions and you have graciously answered them.
After we get everything running and working well we will need to put new floors in the body and freshen up the rest of the body and prime and paint.
This project has been a true complete frame off restomod.
I am painting everything that I added to the Willys Jeep a different color so that folks can see what was added as you have.
I was able to add all my pillow block framework and engine mount framework with using existing holes in the frame.
One difference is that I am using a 30 series belt drive Torque Converter and then chain drive to the shaft and coupler.
I would love to send you some pictures but I can't on this.
Thanks again for being an inspiration for this project for my Grandson with CP!
Cool , I can't wait to see the pictures. ckeyfarm@gmail.com
Nice Video Chris! Definitely a good description on how to mount this engine. Looking forward to the next update video! 😊👍
I like your T shirt!
Thanks Mike, I appreciate it. Next video I may wear my Mike Festiva Quadtruck T-shirt 😂. And yes I'm serious I really do have one , my way to support the channel!
You've been busy! I am loving this project.
I can't wait to be cruising around the neighborhood ( legally 😁) thanks for watching
@@ChrisfromKeyfarm It certainly can be done. All of Robot Cantina's Predator projects are street legal.
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💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿 Gonna Try It With A Tractor Front Diff. And Go From There To Make It A Rear Steer! Thanks For The Help!
Awesome , thanks for watching.
Monster Trucks to Micro Cars ! Everything old is fun again !
LOL , all kinds. Thanks for watching
I was really hopeful that Robot Cantina from Haven, KS would repower his old school Honda Insight with a Predator V-Twin and it was a project that never happened which I'm really bummed about. He did the small engines, but never the V-Twin. A car that is so aerodynamically efficient with a v-twin, aluminum, and light-weight body, would make for a wonderful road tripper.
He does some really cool stuff but his 670 was in a Renault and I don't know anywhere you can find a Renault.
its going to be cool . you know its a air cooled engine put a hood scoop on it just big enough to cover the engine and when your driving it will blow all that air down on top of the engine . and it will still look cool . god bless brother
I've thought about that , the front is open for plenty of airflow 😂 thanks for watching
@@ChrisfromKeyfarm just a idea brother it would protect the engine from rain give it air flow and look good to .
That's a good point , gotta keep it dry 🤔👍
Love your videos and look forward to seeing more of this. I've on the lookout for a rolling shell Miata to turn into an offroad buggy with an old air cooled VW engine
That'll be cool 👍
I really like your project sir😁
Thanks
You've got it worked out! I would have been tempted to situate the engine lower between the MG frame rails so the hood would close, which would cause some head scratching and math to figure out the drive belts.
It could be done by adding another shaft off to the side
Love it Chris
Thanks
Very cool, can't wait to see the next video! Just keep in mind, the 670s are jetted slightly differently on each cylinder as compensation for the asymmetrical muffler. I'd recommend a re-jet of the carb at the very least, but the factory intake manifold flows so poorly to fit in a compact space, there's better options available.
I would love dual carbs , have to wait and see if the video does well 👍 , thanks for watching
Also Austin-Healey sprite same basic car
Thanks Chris from Key farm. Central California watching
They are all about the same car. Thanks for watching
Cant wait to go to the liqour store in it
LOL
Glad to see a knew one I’ve definitely been interested to build something in between using truck transmission and rear end and a 10 horse diesel I’m thinking make my own frame and body for it like a tiny rat rod truck
That'll be cool , thanks for watching
@@ChrisfromKeyfarm you ever try belt drive clutch like riding mower style that’s kinda what I’d like to do if it would work
I actually mentioned that in this video . I'm going to start off using a centrifugal belt drive clutch , then possibly a tension clutch later on
I like it . I run a belt on my yard machine ! I have 7 hp duromax on a 69 chevy truck frame ,
LOL , cool , send me a picture ckeyfarm@gmail.com
Getter done... God bless 🙌 🙏
Thanks 👍
I'm Telling you Chris, if it was me I would have cut the end off of the crankshaft from the original engine, then I would have bored a blind hole in it the same size of the output shift of the engine. Then I would use that to mount the original flywheel and clutch to the engine. Then you could lower the engine about 4 or so inches and get it under the hood. Keep building Chris
I don't believe it would be enough power you'd probably never get it in third or fourth gear and it would be weak in first. Got to have gear reduction to make it work. Thanks for watching.
@ChrisfromKeyfarm the flywheel stores torque through momentum that will help it accelerate. And then once the flywheel gets up to speed it will save energy for the gear shifts.
@No1414body a heavy flywheel is useful to store centrifugal force energy for use for a small amount of time. In this application I believe you need a more constant even torque , not much use for a massive amount of torque for a few seconds. 👍
@no1414body it's been done before, I saw a video where a guy did it with a Miata. The factory flywheel is balanced for the factory engine and the vibrations eventually snapped the crank of the Predator. Also, the ball bearings used for the crankshaft on these little engines are great for handling the side load of a belt or chain, but suffer under the thrust load of depressing a conventional clutch. That, plus the gear reduction needed means you need some step down.
For my money, I like your idea of mounting the engine lower and inline with the trans, but I'd have used a CVT or jackshaft to get the gear reduction needed.
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Right and left are determined from the driver's seat. Just like right and left field are determined by the catcher/home plate in baseball.
LOL, I gotcha , apparently in this video it was determined by the guy in the engine bay.🤪
I didn't even know that there were any MG cars still available. I was worried that most of them had already completely rusted away. Probably less common but I always liked the MG Triumph Spitfire.
There are still many of them around , including those other models that are the same car.
@ChrisfromKeyfarm Thanks, that's good to know. I just cannot seem to find any (MG's not just triumphs) cheaper than $3000. I must be looking in the wrong places. Although I don't have a Facebook account or visit marketplace. As I thought that you needed a marketplace account, which I don't have or know how to set one up.
@rifleman7313 I think if you Google Facebook marketplace you can look at local marketplace stuff without a Facebook account.
@ChrisfromKeyfarm Thanks thats good to know
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Reinventing the Japanese KEI car. KEI vehicles from Japan have 550cc to 650cc engines and must stay within certain defined dimensions. If you like small engine vehicles you might want to check out some KEI vehicles.
Cool , I'll check that out , thanks for watching
Excellent……! Check out,
670 Predator V Twin in 1961 Cushman Eagle…
( The Jeff Galey Channel )
Thanks , I'll check it out
@@ChrisfromKeyfarm great..!😀
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I used a b and s Flathead opposed 14 in s 10 works fine
Cool , what kind of speed? Thanks for watching
Would a CVT work in some of your projects?
It would , however the one rated for these bigger engines is not cost efficient , $600+ . In these kind of projects a clutch works great. Thanks 👍
🌴🤔wondering what kinda gas mileage your gonna get ? So your doing what I wish I could do been wanting to do a big sport bike motor into a small car , a Toyota MR2 with a hyabusa motor , but even that MG midget with a big bike motor as it would have a bit more giddy up and go ! As for the 45 mph speed limit that would be somewhere in between 1st and second gear 😆👍🏼
That sounds like a great idea and I know of one guy that's actually done it check out a UA-cam channel called JJ garage he's got a sport bike engine in an MG
@@ChrisfromKeyfarm yea I’ve seen it it’s what helps inspire me , maybe one day to busy redesigning a skiff right now ,
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Any plaans to sell this as a conversion kit?
That would be pretty cool, but no plans at this time. Thanks for watching.
Turkish Suzuki samurai cut the input shaft put a Honda shaft drive motorcycle motor in front of it 25 forward gears gears and five reverse clutch from the motorcycle motor
That sounds interesting, could you expand on what you mean? How is a Turkish Samurai different, what honda motor and where'd all those gears come from?
Sounds pretty cool
I've got the same thing planned! In Australia we call them a Suzuki Sierra and I have a Bandit 1250 I'll be retiring soon. 30 forward gears + 6 reverse + low range and 11k rpm rev limiter. I'll make sure to get a video up when it happens.
Cool