As a white Policeman I had Mr Nkomos house in Pelindaba under my Security watch. We were always respectful towards each other and was in fact friends with some of his Family and top men. We witnessed the rage between Zanu and Zapu during the Entumbane time and realised then that had Zipra (Or ZAPU) and Smiths Government joined forces we would have had a different Zimbabwe today. A pity Mr Nkoma chose to support Mugabe as it was only a question if time before old tribal hatreds would emerge and the shona would use their power to take down the Ndebele and any opposition. Mugabes election was won only on a numbers game, thats all, 80% Shona and 20% Ndebele. Doesnt take a genius to have seen that from the begining. A united Government under Nkomo, Muzorewa and Smith would and could have build a Fantastic country for us all. RIP Mr Nkomo, just a pity you couldnt see the Trees for the forest at the time. Zanla forces were absolutly no match at all against the well trained and loyal Rhodesian army (80% Blacks) and the Zipra forces.
With all due respect Dr Dumiso, i salute you for stand up right and remaining truthful.It will come to pass baba vangu, inguva chete.Rina manyanga hariputirwe.
Tongogara once said.we are going back home to zimbabwe.there shall be no zanu pf and there shall be no zapu.All parties will be patrotic front under the leadership of Dr Joshua Nkomo.
Zenzele thank you very much. With these superb interviews I bet you now know many things not known by the nation at large. Apostle Chiwenga prophesied the death of DD but he said there is a many with real history of this country who is about to leave the planet but I'm encouraging the nation to get the wisdom from this man before he dies. Very few days down the line DD departed. The mess in this country really comes a long way back. I'm now understanding why Tongo was killed. #Tongorip #Nkomojoshuarip #DDrip Team bob mongoitana madendere ikoko.
As much as I respect Mr Dumiso he needed to tell the truth there was mistrust was there between Zanu and Zapu there was no such thing like creation of disidents by Zanu the fact is we lost many people because of mistrust between these parties Zapu needs to take responsibility too it's not about Ndebele vs Shona just inflaming tribal hate.There should be no such thing as Mashonaland or Matebeleland in my own eyes I don't understand why Zapu/Zanu never own up to the wrongs you have done
Clap hands for the journalist ,,,the interviewer,,,he is calm and does not aim to create uneccessary hatred amongst tribes but still seeks to devildge the truth
Zanu pf's suppression and the Dividing of Zimbabweans to Tribal hatred was and is from back then during the liberation Zipra were called Machuwachuwa.and were to be eliminated.
Good leaders never live long...Dabengwa and Tongogara not forgetting Lookout Masuku you may not be amongst us but we will always feel your spiritual presents
Next time give us dates and time in all narratives it will help us to understand the whole story we where not there we want to have all details of this story
A very serious issue ,Senzele is actually running of questions.what can we do as a nation.the most unfortunate is the real people who knows ,are passing on
Am not comfortable blaming Shona people per se. Firstly, Zapu was a national party with Shonas holding key positions, as well as plenty supporters. I can only talk of Zanu, and it being predominantly Shona based does not justify painting Shonas with one brush. I would not want to confuse issues, wherein on one hand gukurahundi was Zanu program to achieve one party state. On the other hand grand plan was a Zanu and tribal instrument meant to destroy people in Midlands and Matebeleland, what for I don't know. As such if there is going to be a push back by those that are affected, it should not be viewed as a push against Shonas, but against oppression. Mayuyu Mahlabezulu. We fought, and furiously so as Zapu, against oppression. Not whites. I would not insult a white person or Shonas. They are just as human as anyone. Vuka Mthwakazi omuhle
My main question why didn't these guys sit down and talk before lots of innocent people were killed. Mugabe and Nkomo were all at arm's length. The true story won't see the day.
Who is the dissident who did most of the atrocities in the Matopo's area who would not join Zipra veterans association whose name was not mentioned? Gayigusu or Thambolenyoka
Dai taiziwa kuti history inobvepi, I'm really hurt after hearing this interview. A wrong is a wrong and we must find probable ways to rectify this mess as a people. This nation has a lot to be corrected 😭😭😭😭😭. Rise up Valerio Sibanda!
Compare DD ‘s statements with ANC leadership/ lecturers after Mugabe’s death. I believe DD, ANC Presidents are not telling the truth, they conviniently omit GuKurahundi. Mbeki, Zuma , Ramaphosa who killed people in matebeleland Since you know everything about Zimbabwe.
It was obviously Tongogara,he had tremendous influence and Charisma,thats why he was eliminated,his voice would have been the loudest and most hearkened to concerning the PF and other things
@@lwazinyoni5721 before gukurahundi Ndebeles were killing people coz of not speaking their language in the heartand of the karanga people the modern day province of matebeland south which Bulawayo.Its a fact it's not lie.The same thing that Zulus were doing in trains where they would throw people outside the train when it was moving fo not speaking Zulu.Its a fact.And Robert Mugabe told Nkomo tell ur guys to stop that nonsense of killings of people and tourists they didn't bother to listen coz Shona lothuvhi was a leader of the country and they didn't like it.There is nothing about ZAPU my friend it was just full bunch tribalist some of them some stupid colonized karanga who were not Ndebeles at all.Thats reason why a lot of Shona guys left Zapu in Zambia the likes of Chikerema.Speak everything not wat u want.People know history not zvenyu zvekudhakwa zvekunyepa coz u full of bitterness nemhaka yokuti maida kutonga nyika.
What ever vaccination you got from zanu it makes you sick. I wonder where are you right now,if you are in Zim then yaa you are on the payroll of zanu. If not so where are you and what are you doing there?
the best thing Bantu bematebeleland asekeni kuba nhothathekile imota zamatshona asenzeni okwethu amatshona bazahlala beyizilwane ezizibhathise isikhumba semvu and besisebenzisa No development in Matabeleland only looting kithi ngapha let's have our own party like MRP that's it we will move forward in life Lange development and education system
Where are the die hard shona zanu supporters ? Are you still pretending to be in love with the zanu cabal to death or you're ready to repent? Now you see what has been hard for you to accept and acknowledge all these years that putting zanu in power was the worst mistake of your lives? How do you feel now it has finally dawned zanu has been using you from the start to date for their own personal gain?when others were crying you thought you were safe look look now...your zanu ancestors are showing you flames and its your turn to cry... You zanu supporters its time to fix your mess you put in power and help yourselves
Baba respectfully, you mean to tell us as intelligence supremo you agreed and didn’t strategise about what would happen when you got home when you saw ZANLA changing goal posts?
Lwazi Nyoni If you don’t know the answer just be quiet . It a valid question. Being emotional stops you being rational. Yidiscussion yabadala le not ingane 🤗
@@maxwellmakamba5112 I failed to unlock what you wanted me to swallow. Tough luck shamwari, I can never be swayed by your intended gist. Besides, what are the facts that you presented which you expected me to gulp down? None. Sorry shaa.
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu no one has said you should admire evil, but for you to become one as well defeats all human purpose. To be imprisoned by what an evil man has done becomes nothing but your own weakness. Refuse to become one and denounce the evil deeds but not hatred to a section of humanity whose son could have caused evil and suffering. You shall probably realize someday, that no true Shona accepts the evil done in the name of politics. What have shonas gained from the death of ndebeles? Nothing. Many are ruing why we are where we are today. So the issue to me is not about the Shonas and Ndebeles as some are preaching but its a political issue that had gone absurd. We are a people together. Not all Ndebeles committed raids before the whites came so should one blame everybody for a mistake committed by just a few? Lets learn from Rwanda. They chose to forgive but did not forget what happened in the past. This, however became a cornerstone for their unity and progressively so, they are enjoying the benefits. They chose not to hate but remove bitterness and identify their enemy who has been dividing them causing others to feel superior and down trod-ding the others
Tell us what it is that he is rewriting? Once one grows up fed on ZANU propaganda it is difficult to listen let alone accept anything else. Only ZANU PF narratives were carried on television, radio and the main newspapers, schools, etc especially in the '80s. The findings of the Government's own appointed commissions of enquiry into the Entumbane fighting and Gukurahundi were conveniently suppressed and never released. It was free reign for ZANU poisoning the minds of Zimbabweans and feeding the country lies. Hence because of that distorted false history, we have today a regime led by a man whose criminality, deception and key role in orchestrating untold atrocities since independence should have seen him removed from government by the time we reached the 2000s.
Umadhala bakiti, he alludes that he told Moyo to hide arms coz ZANU had already hidden theirs but then he says he refused knowledge in the court of law. Which is which Topi?. Hakula qiniso lapo. You statement is patently inconsistent.
My main question why didn't these guys sit down and talk before lots of innocent people were killed. Mugabe and Nkomo were all at arm's length. The true story won't see the day.
As a white Policeman I had Mr Nkomos house in Pelindaba under my Security watch. We were always respectful towards each other and was in fact friends with some of his Family and top men. We witnessed the rage between Zanu and Zapu during the Entumbane time and realised then that had Zipra (Or ZAPU) and Smiths Government joined forces we would have had a different Zimbabwe today. A pity Mr Nkoma chose to support Mugabe as it was only a question if time before old tribal hatreds would emerge and the shona would use their power to take down the Ndebele and any opposition. Mugabes election was won only on a numbers game, thats all, 80% Shona and 20% Ndebele. Doesnt take a genius to have seen that from the begining. A united Government under Nkomo, Muzorewa and Smith would and could have build a Fantastic country for us all. RIP Mr Nkomo, just a pity you couldnt see the Trees for the forest at the time. Zanla forces were absolutly no match at all against the well trained and loyal Rhodesian army (80% Blacks) and the Zipra forces.
However, this country might have been ravaged by civil war just like DRC, Sudan, Moza, e.t.c
With all due respect Dr Dumiso, i salute you for stand up right and remaining truthful.It will come to pass baba vangu, inguva chete.Rina manyanga hariputirwe.
Excellent brother Zenzele may the soul Zipra intelligence services supremo Dumiso Dabengwa Rest ln Peace
Dankie Zenzele boy, I longed to know the truth about this issue. No wonder why our country is living in such a mess.
Proud to have been named after him. There is still more to be done. Long live the spirit of Cde DD
Tongogara once said.we are going back home to zimbabwe.there shall be no zanu pf and there shall be no zapu.All parties will be patrotic front under the leadership of Dr Joshua Nkomo.
And Mugabe wasn't happy with that and assassinated him
The True and Honest history. So, let the Zimbabwe History be Re - written .
Zenzele thank you very much. With these superb interviews I bet you now know many things not known by the nation at large.
Apostle Chiwenga prophesied the death of DD but he said there is a many with real history of this country who is about to leave the planet but I'm encouraging the nation to get the wisdom from this man before he dies.
Very few days down the line DD departed. The mess in this country really comes a long way back.
I'm now understanding why Tongo was killed.
#Tongorip
#Nkomojoshuarip
#DDrip
Team bob mongoitana madendere ikoko.
Zimbabwe's last great soldier. Salute comrade Dabengwa. Gone but not forgotten. History will remember you better than Mnangagwa 🇿🇼
he was overated. what did he achieve?
Great on what? He was confused that one
@@colbrill 😳😳
Betrayed Ndebele people.Same like Kembo.
Really truth DD now the country is now died.
Touching truth. Had been trying to go through this interview for the past weeks, and finally, l did. RIP Mdala.
Thanks bhudi Zenzele Ndebele. Keep us informed sir, we are hungry for this kind of information.
As much as I respect Mr Dumiso he needed to tell the truth there was mistrust was there between Zanu and Zapu there was no such thing like creation of disidents by Zanu the fact is we lost many people because of mistrust between these parties Zapu needs to take responsibility too it's not about Ndebele vs Shona just inflaming tribal hate.There should be no such thing as Mashonaland or Matebeleland in my own eyes I don't understand why Zapu/Zanu never own up to the wrongs you have done
Then why note create Truth and Reconciliation Tribunal?
Thank you Dr Dabengwa for telling truth.
Rest in peace Cde DD. You will forever be remembered ngeqhaza lakho ekukhululeni abantwana benhlabathi
Insightful information, a great story to learn,but the pain is deeper
i will always come back for this...
Clap hands for the journalist ,,,the interviewer,,,he is calm and does not aim to create uneccessary hatred amongst tribes but still seeks to devildge the truth
He does a great job..
thank you zenzele for this wonderful interview
Great. ..great. siyabonga bra.
Tongogara what a wonderful soldier a true hero
He is the last person holding true zimbabwean history
the black Russian....one day is one day, we will know the contents of the Chihambakwe report, and i pray and hope justice will be done
Wow! Thank you Doc.
Zanu pf's suppression and the Dividing of Zimbabweans to Tribal hatred was and is from back then during the liberation Zipra were called Machuwachuwa.and were to be eliminated.
Rest in peace gallant Son of the Soil. Baba venyika. Revolutionary leader and commander.
We lost leadership DD may his spirit and legacy live on
Good leaders never live long...Dabengwa and Tongogara not forgetting Lookout Masuku you may not be amongst us but we will always feel your spiritual presents
Next time give us dates and time in all narratives it will help us to understand the whole story we where not there we want to have all details of this story
Umh, profound interview.
A very serious issue ,Senzele is actually running of questions.what can we do as a nation.the most unfortunate is the real people who knows ,are passing on
Mmmmmmmm it's true Dabengwa was Zapu and Zipra intelligence supreme and Lookout Masuku was the commander of the Zipra forces
Am not comfortable blaming Shona people per se. Firstly, Zapu was a national party with Shonas holding key positions, as well as plenty supporters. I can only talk of Zanu, and it being predominantly Shona based does not justify painting Shonas with one brush. I would not want to confuse issues, wherein on one hand gukurahundi was Zanu program to achieve one party state. On the other hand grand plan was a Zanu and tribal instrument meant to destroy people in Midlands and Matebeleland, what for I don't know. As such if there is going to be a push back by those that are affected, it should not be viewed as a push against Shonas, but against oppression. Mayuyu Mahlabezulu. We fought, and furiously so as Zapu, against oppression. Not whites. I would not insult a white person or Shonas. They are just as human as anyone. Vuka Mthwakazi omuhle
Well I came across a video where pple in MaShonaland were saying Nkomo is a terrorist and must die
@@lwazinyoni5721 How many people in that video. stereotyping an entire tribe based on the views of 3 people?
@@kukudotatana8328 did I say anything judgemental I said I came across a certain depicting something
My main question why didn't these guys sit down and talk before lots of innocent people were killed. Mugabe and Nkomo were all at arm's length. The true story won't see the day.
true hero siyabonga baba
This is so SAD ...
Lookout Masuku a true soldier a hero
Great interview. If you could also interview Mugabe
Mugabe has never been comfortable talking about that subject
Very profound
RIP
Who is the dissident who did most of the atrocities in the Matopo's area who would not join Zipra veterans association whose name was not mentioned? Gayigusu or Thambolenyoka
R.I.P
R.I.P Dumiso
MHSRIEP 😔👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏A life well lived.
Dai taiziwa kuti history inobvepi, I'm really hurt after hearing this interview.
A wrong is a wrong and we must find probable ways to rectify this mess as a people.
This nation has a lot to be corrected 😭😭😭😭😭.
Rise up Valerio Sibanda!
Unopenga iwe enda unoverenga history all sides not wat that man is talking a sided story
" Rise up Sibanda ,,,," against who ,,,,,,????? Muchenjere kuchekeresa vanhu
@@claudkaligwenje6062 mazanu panotaurwa chokwadi hamudi kupaona.
@@calebshava2428 mazanu chokwadi chinokurwadzai
Tyoo come back baba
Yes the British were indeed involved from the word go. That's why Mugabe was later made a Knights command by the Queen
If we had known.
Compare DD ‘s statements with ANC leadership/ lecturers after Mugabe’s death. I believe DD, ANC Presidents are not telling the truth, they conviniently omit GuKurahundi. Mbeki, Zuma , Ramaphosa who killed people in matebeleland Since you know everything about Zimbabwe.
The good doctor says the forces were to come under one command, wish he was asked who was preferred to be the commander
It was obviously Tongogara,he had tremendous influence and Charisma,thats why he was eliminated,his voice would have been the loudest and most hearkened to concerning the PF and other things
the good & genuine ones were killed
It's not over the innocent are still going to be killed
There is something called bias in oral tradition.He is Zapu and speaking highly of Zapu.We can not run with one side and take it as the gospel truth.
Bring your other and hear their story. They can’t come out because they know the truth so Wena Phiri go bring your zanu and tell us
Phiri has a fact stop being emotional iwee
@@claudkaligwenje6062 bring the other side of the story you think he is the only one who has said this
@@lwazinyoni5721 before gukurahundi Ndebeles were killing people coz of not speaking their language in the heartand of the karanga people the modern day province of matebeland south which Bulawayo.Its a fact it's not lie.The same thing that Zulus were doing in trains where they would throw people outside the train when it was moving fo not speaking Zulu.Its a fact.And Robert Mugabe told Nkomo tell ur guys to stop that nonsense of killings of people and tourists they didn't bother to listen coz Shona lothuvhi was a leader of the country and they didn't like it.There is nothing about ZAPU my friend it was just full bunch tribalist some of them some stupid colonized karanga who were not Ndebeles at all.Thats reason why a lot of Shona guys left Zapu in Zambia the likes of Chikerema.Speak everything not wat u want.People know history not zvenyu zvekudhakwa zvekunyepa coz u full of bitterness nemhaka yokuti maida kutonga nyika.
What ever vaccination you got from zanu it makes you sick. I wonder where are you right now,if you are in Zim then yaa you are on the payroll of zanu. If not so where are you and what are you doing there?
The Gwaai battalion etc ,,,,
the best thing Bantu bematebeleland asekeni kuba nhothathekile imota zamatshona asenzeni okwethu amatshona bazahlala beyizilwane ezizibhathise isikhumba semvu and besisebenzisa No development in Matabeleland only looting kithi ngapha let's have our own party like MRP that's it we will move forward in life Lange development and education system
you suffer from the african tragedy. Pre-colonial tribal cabalism and impiism will never be tolerated
@@kukudotatana8328 i see u are a Gukurahundist u support those murderous
@@kukudotatana8328so says the child of savage murderers.
How do you leave without knowing the graves of your people and being denied access to information about your missing loved ones?
Where are the die hard shona zanu supporters ? Are you still pretending to be in love with the zanu cabal to death or you're ready to repent? Now you see what has been hard for you to accept and acknowledge all these years that putting zanu in power was the worst mistake of your lives? How do you feel now it has finally dawned zanu has been using you from the start to date for their own personal gain?when others were crying you thought you were safe look look now...your zanu ancestors are showing you flames and its your turn to cry... You zanu supporters its time to fix your mess you put in power and help yourselves
I thought the interview would reveal who planned the qoup.
Charlie tango's.
Ngiyazwa lensizwa yathini Uma obaba bebulawa ngamashona njalo wasenzelani emandebeleni lutho wathini Uma amashona ayethuthisa amafactory ewasa eharare mina lo kampofu angiwafuni nakancane Amanda omthengisi ngumongameli mpofu
As long as he does not mention the tribalism element. He is not an honest old man. SAD
u want to tribalise everything so people die and u can have a reason to talk your shit bro u so shallow
Zenzele . Ntate Dabengwa was ZAPU & Zipra forces Intelligence supremo whilst Lookout Masuku the Zipra commander you got your intro completely wrong.
Shonas are treating our fellow Ndebele brothers like shit but if we South Africans revenge for our fellow brothers they cry Xenophobia
I think you're not a South African but a troubled Ndebele guy who's pretending to be a South African.
Soneni Moyo ????? Y would he lie against his commander ,,,,,?????
They is something about this guy.
Umgabe labangane bakhe ingabe bayabobotheka manje ngendlela ilizwe eselingakhona?
Yiyona mpumela ebasuthusayo ngendlela into esezingakhona sekuze kubaleka labantwababo ezweni?
Sisisula kanjani lesilo salombuthano osubhubhise ilizwe
Now we suffering both ndebele and shona so this thing has been wrong from the start
Baba respectfully, you mean to tell us as intelligence supremo you agreed and didn’t strategise about what would happen when you got home when you saw ZANLA changing goal posts?
That's a good question.
hear hear!
What has anyone's strategy gotten us today?
And what were they supposed to do
Lwazi Nyoni If you don’t know the answer just be quiet . It a valid question. Being emotional stops you being rational. Yidiscussion yabadala le not ingane 🤗
Nansinga kkkkkkk
The struggle was hijacked at the last minute. 😕
I can only imagine a Zimbabwe that is well integrated.
Not true. Its actually Zapu that became really active at the last minute
@@jamesgordonphiri362the Rhodesians and Brits corroborate this account, and the state of Zimbabwe is thanks to Zanu PF.
You don't cover up graves
the bad man.
Abantu laba balwela ukubusa ilizwe kodwa akubone impumela yakhona, yiyo lento abayiyela empini? Bakhulula bani njengoba abantu begomela behlengezela inyembezi nsukuzonke? Laba bantu bahlanganiswa yini legazi lemfa kanjena? Bayinhloboni yabantu vele
Yizinja lezi manje bazabulalana bodwa akunsukuzatshwala mfowethu
this is utter rubbish stop lying to the future youth telling them things that u cant prove..u were defeated
Now get the other side of Zanu
Chamisa is the only answer.
Silly bastard why chamisa and not any other ndebele
@@maxwellmakamba5112 ,so to you the only answer is when a Ndebele starts ruling? I will forgive you of that myopic perception.
@@SARPCCO kkkk you are so dumb you failed to unlock the gist of the whole story. Anyway thanks reading away from the lines kikiki
@@maxwellmakamba5112 I failed to unlock what you wanted me to swallow. Tough luck shamwari, I can never be swayed by your intended gist. Besides, what are the facts that you presented which you expected me to gulp down? None. Sorry shaa.
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu no one has said you should admire evil, but for you to become one as well defeats all human purpose. To be imprisoned by what an evil man has done becomes nothing but your own weakness. Refuse to become one and denounce the evil deeds but not hatred to a section of humanity whose son could have caused evil and suffering. You shall probably realize someday, that no true Shona accepts the evil done in the name of politics. What have shonas gained from the death of ndebeles? Nothing. Many are ruing why we are where we are today. So the issue to me is not about the Shonas and Ndebeles as some are preaching but its a political issue that had gone absurd. We are a people together. Not all Ndebeles committed raids before the whites came so should one blame everybody for a mistake committed by just a few? Lets learn from Rwanda. They chose to forgive but did not forget what happened in the past. This, however became a cornerstone for their unity and progressively so, they are enjoying the benefits. They chose not to hate but remove bitterness and identify their enemy who has been dividing them causing others to feel superior and down trod-ding the others
If u believe what he is saying just because he is saying it then you must believe whatever Zanu says.Everyone is biased towards their own party
Is it false that,he was acquitted of treason?
Zipra new everything stop it Dumiso
It's quite sad when an old respected man like Dabengwa gets to rewrite history. This is pathetic sir
Rewrite? ask your fathers they will tell you the truth
Tell us what it is that he is rewriting? Once one grows up fed on ZANU propaganda it is difficult to listen let alone accept anything else. Only ZANU PF narratives were carried on television, radio and the main newspapers, schools, etc especially in the '80s. The findings of the Government's own appointed commissions of enquiry into the Entumbane fighting and Gukurahundi were conveniently suppressed and never released. It was free reign for ZANU poisoning the minds of Zimbabweans and feeding the country lies. Hence because of that distorted false history, we have today a regime led by a man whose criminality, deception and key role in orchestrating untold atrocities since independence should have seen him removed from government by the time we reached the 2000s.
Dumiso and mugabe killed Tongogara thus the truth
Wena fake Ddhlamini uyazi uzwana lokunya
@@stephendhladhla1009 this Douglass Ddlamini is speaking out of his asshole.
Can you justify your opinion. Let us say something for the sake of speaking; put facts on paper for everyone to see.
Douglass Ddlamini ulamanga wayithatha ngaphi information leyo wawungaphi, Silambeover Gubuzela.
I it's hard to forgive destroying such a rich country like zim and claim educated pple guys go black to desk then you will claim your lies
Umadhala bakiti, he alludes that he told Moyo to hide arms coz ZANU had already hidden theirs but then he says he refused knowledge in the court of law. Which is which Topi?. Hakula qiniso lapo. You statement is patently inconsistent.
@Wamambo Chirasha, very true Ndebeles are always like, denying the truth. They were behind the dissidents.
My main question why didn't these guys sit down and talk before lots of innocent people were killed. Mugabe and Nkomo were all at arm's length. The true story won't see the day.