The Rosebuds *did* win, but most historians discount it due to the circumstances. At the time, the PCHA was using the Cup as its own internal trophy, in keeping with its original intended purpose as a challenge cup. Since the then-defending champions of the PCHA held the Cup, and Portland beat them on their way to ultimately lose the first modern-style Stanley Cup Finals to the NHA’s Montreal side, they *did* technically hold the Cup for the one week period between the PCHA finals and their ultimate loss to Montreal. Because of this, Portland, not Seattle, is the first American team engraved on the Cup, in the permanent section above the current barrel bands.
The renovation basically made it an entirely new building. They essentially treated that roof like a big tarp/tent and dug way down to make the whole place bigger and have streamlined cargo bays for event logistics to unload and load much more efficiently. Before there was one tunnel that a single semi had to back down to get unloaded one at a time. 🥵 Now, there’s 6!!
Still a bad venue with horrible access and parking. Would have been better to build a new arena. Freight companies charge higher rates to take stuff to the arena causing concerts to either pay more to be there or choose other locations.
They did almost the same thing to the Baltimore Arena, but mostly going after concerts and entertainment events, now called the CFG Bank Arena, the stage is still there.
@@hillyseattlenarrowstreets6087 It wasn't a renovation. It was a complete demo and state of the art rebuild all while keeping the roof in tact because it's a city landmark. The roof and some panes of glass they kept specifically to repurpose are the ONLY things that remains of key arena.
Couple of things. 1. Seattle is only 150 miles from Vancouver BC, home of the Canucks. 2. This was the 2nd ground up renovation of the old coliseum. The first time was in the 90s.
So then that mean stadiums like DKR texas memorial stadium are brand new then right? As that stadium has been renovated atleast 10 times but the original parts are 104 years old.
@@wanderofus lol...yeah but in this case it'd be like replacing the whole ship in one go except for the mast and then claiming the ship is as old as the mast.
The roof and supports are original. The rest of the arena has been rebuilt several times. It was renovated for the Kraken and to possibly bring the SuperSonics back.
Yeah, they jacked the roof up and built a brand new stadium in the ground so you actually walk down because they had to preserve the original final height of the roof
Mostly because Vancouver has the Canucks just 2 hours north. When Phoenix got their team the league was trying to expand into the southwestern areas after the Jets decided to move. So you saw teams like Dallas and Anaheim pop up as well. Florida didn’t have a team until 91 I believe then they got the Panthers in 96 and NC got the Hurricanes. Colorado didn’t even have a team until the mid 90’s. Before 1990 the NHL map was pretty much Canada, Los Angeles, Chicago and the northeastern part of America.
Seattle is full of fair weather fans. We had hockey ages ago, and just like every other team here, they support them when they are doing well and dump them when they get even remotely cold.
The Kraken are neither the first team to be located in the Pacific Northwest nor are they the first Seattle hockey team. Back in 1924, I think, the Seattle metropolitan won the NHL Stanley Cup!
@@FoxDieSolid508 Agreed. "Climate Pledge Arena" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. Same deal as with (the former) Safeco Field. "T-Mobile Park" is such a lame name...
The cutrent configuration is the 2nd remodel since it became an arena. For the Metallica fans out there, the seattle show from their Live S**t box set was filmed under that roof when it was the Colosseum
City insisted those franchises had to be at that location - it was a White Elephant property without NHL or NBA sports there. NBA owners wanted a Stadium by Football and Baseball stadiums - and city wouldn't allow it. The Arena cost close to $990 Million to renovate. Says a lot about " Bang for Buck" in Seattle. Ticket prices reflect cost of Stadium. Jerry Jones Dallas AT&T Stadium cost a Billion for comparison. Baseball and Football stadiums were cheaper too.
While yes, Seattle was the first NHL team in the american side of the PNW, that's a bit misleading as vancouver is *right* across the border. We can drive to Vancouver for day trips easily. If you fell asleep in Portland/Seattle and woke up in vancouver you wouldn't notice a difference. Mean while it's a LOOOONG drive to any other american city. We just do our own thing up here.
Seattle resident here. This arena is basically brand new. I've been there before and after the remodeling, and you can barely tell it's the same place.
The Seattle Metropolitans (PCHL/NHL) were actually the first American team to win the Stanley Cup in 1917 against the Montreal Canadiens. They also tied for the Stanley Cup in 1919 against the Canadians. The series was tied 2 - 2 - 1 when the Spanish flu hit and they had to cancel the remaining game. Seattle Metropolitans also made the finals in 1920 but lost to the Ottawa Senators.
This is actually false it’s the newest arena, the arena before was called Key Arena, but the city of Seattle tore it down to put in the new arena, climate pledge arena, so in all actuality it’s the newest stadium in the NHL.
The Seattle Metropolitans were the first US NHL team to win the Stanly Cup in 1917, and the correct term would be it has the oldest roof in the NHL. haha. Nothing about any part of that building below the roof is old.
@curtismartin2866 it was not demolished. The roof, windows, and much of the base structure were kept. It was an extensive refurbishment, but it doesn't change the Amazon arena sucks, mostly due to the location. The location made sense in 1962 for the world's fair. The city council hated the man that got hokey back to Seattle and didn't want him to build a modern arena that would have been good for basketball and hockey. Now the people of Seattle and the citizens of Washington are paying off refurbishment of the worst arena in the US.
@@meatbyproducts The window frames were retained. Literally nothing beyond that was. When the Washington State Pavillion was built for the 1962 World's Fair, the floor was at street level. Even when it was remodeled into the Seattle Center Coliseum, the floor remained. The Bubbleator was moved to the Center House/ Armory building. When Key Arena was built on the site, the construction included excavation of 35 feet. When Climate Pledge was constructed, excavation of another 15 feet was required. Everything under the roof was demolished - except the window frames. The Kraken are owned by the Oak View Group - the same group that developed Climate Pledge Arena. Chris Hansen's group rab into silly city council politics - mostly because the structure of the council was altered.
@@meatbyproducts You simply do not know what you're talking about. The NHL did not award a franchise to Seattle until the Arena development had been confirmed. The developer - the Oak View Group - is also the team owner. There was.o tax money used in the construction of Climate Pledge due to Initiative 91. And except for some window frames, literally nothing from Key Arena remains. You have been misinformed.
Oldest arena, sure. Most up to date facilities and green energy efficient, definitely. That place is awesome. Until you have to leave. Then you're stuck in an hour of traffic just to go one mile to the freeway.
One of the coolest arenas more cities should bury they’re arenas less clutter in the skyline is always nice especially with a stadium roof they’re never that nice too look at well unless it’s this one
I don't understand why people like you make comments like this and not give an explanation. I'm not saying you are right or wrong but why even comment if you're not going to state your case as to why it is "wildly inaccurate"?
The only old part of that building is the roof they demolished the whole building under it everything else is brand new eco green construction designed to be carbon neutral so technically it’s the newest
saying "renovated" is a complete mischaracterization of what happened here. They demo'd an old arena and built an entirely new arena all while keeping the roof in tact which is a city landmark. The roof and some panes of glass are the only things that remain of the prior key arena.
This is Total BS. The building was completely rebuilt and majorly expanded at a cost of over a billion dollars. All that was really retained was the roof structure.
Fun fact: the Seattle Metropolitans were the first American team to win the Stanley cup in 1917.
Was it not the Portland Rosebuds in 1916?
@@LumberjackMC They were the first to go to the finals, but they didn’t win.
The Rosebuds *did* win, but most historians discount it due to the circumstances. At the time, the PCHA was using the Cup as its own internal trophy, in keeping with its original intended purpose as a challenge cup. Since the then-defending champions of the PCHA held the Cup, and Portland beat them on their way to ultimately lose the first modern-style Stanley Cup Finals to the NHA’s Montreal side, they *did* technically hold the Cup for the one week period between the PCHA finals and their ultimate loss to Montreal. Because of this, Portland, not Seattle, is the first American team engraved on the Cup, in the permanent section above the current barrel bands.
@@adiuntesserande6893dude. Shut up
@@adiuntesserande6893wow, didn’t know this! Thank you!
The renovation basically made it an entirely new building. They essentially treated that roof like a big tarp/tent and dug way down to make the whole place bigger and have streamlined cargo bays for event logistics to unload and load much more efficiently. Before there was one tunnel that a single semi had to back down to get unloaded one at a time. 🥵 Now, there’s 6!!
Cost of renovations were ridiculous - @ $990 Million. Not much bang for the buck.
Still a bad venue with horrible access and parking. Would have been better to build a new arena. Freight companies charge higher rates to take stuff to the arena causing concerts to either pay more to be there or choose other locations.
Was gonna say did they not realize it was renovated? All the shops closing and construction so annoying. The North remembers!
They did almost the same thing to the Baltimore Arena, but mostly going after concerts and entertainment events, now called the CFG Bank Arena, the stage is still there.
@@hillyseattlenarrowstreets6087 It wasn't a renovation. It was a complete demo and state of the art rebuild all while keeping the roof in tact because it's a city landmark. The roof and some panes of glass they kept specifically to repurpose are the ONLY things that remains of key arena.
I live in Seattle and the stadium is very very nice
It's an arena, not a stadium
Couple of things. 1. Seattle is only 150 miles from Vancouver BC, home of the Canucks. 2. This was the 2nd ground up renovation of the old coliseum. The first time was in the 90s.
1. Yes but he said USA.
It's really a new area. They put up support for the roof and demolished everything underneath. They then rebuilt the area.
Only the roof is from 1962. The rest of the stadium was built between 2019 and 2021. Scarcely a "sixty-plus year old arena."
Ever heard of the ship of theseus?
So then that mean stadiums like DKR texas memorial stadium are brand new then right? As that stadium has been renovated atleast 10 times but the original parts are 104 years old.
@@wanderofus lol...yeah but in this case it'd be like replacing the whole ship in one go except for the mast and then claiming the ship is as old as the mast.
It was The Colosseum ... They rebuilt it in 1995 and called it The Key Arena
Was there a few weeks ago. Stadium inside really was in good shape. The seating views were great.
The roof and supports are original. The rest of the arena has been rebuilt several times. It was renovated for the Kraken and to possibly bring the SuperSonics back.
The rink it self sits really low doesn’t it?
Yeah, they jacked the roof up and built a brand new stadium in the ground so you actually walk down because they had to preserve the original final height of the roof
Did seem weird that Phoenix had a team and Seattle didn’t.
Hey I grew up and Cleveland and always wondered why Florida had a hockey team (two now) and Cleveland never did😢
Mostly because Vancouver has the Canucks just 2 hours north. When Phoenix got their team the league was trying to expand into the southwestern areas after the Jets decided to move. So you saw teams like Dallas and Anaheim pop up as well. Florida didn’t have a team until 91 I believe then they got the Panthers in 96 and NC got the Hurricanes. Colorado didn’t even have a team until the mid 90’s. Before 1990 the NHL map was pretty much Canada, Los Angeles, Chicago and the northeastern part of America.
Seattle is full of fair weather fans. We had hockey ages ago, and just like every other team here, they support them when they are doing well and dump them when they get even remotely cold.
@@Bilski86Think Cleveland did in like 1975. Still pretty weird, though.
@@Bilski86both of those team crack the top teams in attendance
The “renovation” effectively was a knock down and rebuild that saved the roof. Literally every other bit of the arena was replaced .
The Kraken are neither the first team to be located in the Pacific Northwest nor are they the first Seattle hockey team. Back in 1924, I think, the Seattle metropolitan won the NHL Stanley Cup!
1917, and he said first NHL team in the American Pacific Northwest, the cancucks don't count they're Canadian
Depends how you define the PNW. I dont like including BC in it.
@@OnwardsUpwards Whether or not you include BC, Seattle had an NHL team back in the 1020's, so the Kraken aren't the first team in Seattle.
@@OnwardsUpwards bc doesn’t call themselves PNW.
@@ishmiel21 the Seattle Metropolitans played in the Pacific Coast Hockey Association not the NHL
It wasnt renovated. They supported the roof and built a new arena under it. Everything is new, thats why it cost like 1 B.
$1 bln , for an 'old' arena? insane..
@@lws7394 seriously. . .the prices on these things are absolutely crazy now.
It's time to get rid of that crap hole arena. It was unfit for human occupation 20 years ago and the renovations have just made it worse.
I worked here for Metropolitan Grill when the CPA first opened, I miss working there. Great times.
BRING BACK OUR SONICS!
it’s crazy how they transformed a warehouse to a dream ice rink
It was never a warehouse, even 62 years ago.
The world fair…. Call it the worlds fair
I still call it the Key arena.
Same. Climate pledge is an incredibly lame name.
@@FoxDieSolid508 Agreed. "Climate Pledge Arena" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
Same deal as with (the former) Safeco Field. "T-Mobile Park" is such a lame name...
yeah but you need to pledge allegiance to the climate of the united states of america every time you walk by
It might be old but it got a BBL and new tatas to keep the people excited about recycling the building.
This arena is new. Only a portion of the roof that is reuse. And they dig out about 20 feets of dirt lower to make the arena bigger.
All that's left from the original arena is the 4 roof pillars, not even the roof remains. They rebuilt it all.
You beat me too it..😂
I Remember the 1962 world fair, took many aunts and uncles and cousins to it.
The cutrent configuration is the 2nd remodel since it became an arena.
For the Metallica fans out there, the seattle show from their Live S**t box set was filmed under that roof when it was the Colosseum
City insisted those franchises had to be at that location - it was a White Elephant property without NHL or NBA sports there. NBA owners wanted a Stadium by Football and Baseball stadiums - and city wouldn't allow it.
The Arena cost close to $990 Million to renovate. Says a lot about " Bang for Buck" in Seattle. Ticket prices reflect cost of Stadium.
Jerry Jones Dallas AT&T Stadium cost a Billion for comparison.
Baseball and Football stadiums were cheaper too.
I mean it has the oldest roof. But it's as new and modern as they come underneath the roof
While yes, Seattle was the first NHL team in the american side of the PNW, that's a bit misleading as vancouver is *right* across the border. We can drive to Vancouver for day trips easily. If you fell asleep in Portland/Seattle and woke up in vancouver you wouldn't notice a difference. Mean while it's a LOOOONG drive to any other american city. We just do our own thing up here.
I love when i fly over Seattle and see that giant arena❤
I’m addicted to your videos keep it up
Seattle resident here. This arena is basically brand new. I've been there before and after the remodeling, and you can barely tell it's the same place.
The Seattle Metropolitans (PCHL/NHL) were actually the first American team to win the Stanley Cup in 1917 against the Montreal Canadiens.
They also tied for the Stanley Cup in 1919 against the Canadians. The series was tied 2 - 2 - 1 when the Spanish flu hit and they had to cancel the remaining game. Seattle Metropolitans also made the finals in 1920 but lost to the Ottawa Senators.
This is actually false it’s the newest arena, the arena before was called Key Arena, but the city of Seattle tore it down to put in the new arena, climate pledge arena, so in all actuality it’s the newest stadium in the NHL.
That roof is so iconic. Watching vintage Supersonics video with that roof is pure nostalgia.
Iconic for one generation. It should've been replaced.
Hockey has been in the Seattle before, it was the Metropolitans.
Whom won the first NHL Stanley cup in 1917.
Almost cried when you mentioned the Sonics 💔
Oldest roof in the NHL maybe but thats it.
It’s basically brand new and a really fun arena to attend games
"Oldest"...that renovation was almost a complete gutting
The Seattle Metropolitans were the first US NHL team to win the Stanly Cup in 1917, and the correct term would be it has the oldest roof in the NHL. haha. Nothing about any part of that building below the roof is old.
I was a construction inspector when they were rebuilding Climate Pledge Arena in 2020
That stadium is just fine.
The only thing ordinal about that arena is the roof. It was completely redone.
Lower Queen Anne is not downtown…
How about the flames arena
It looks great and modern
It dethroned the Calgary Flames' Scotiabank Arena
Stop with the obnoxious loops, they're so desperate. "It's crazy to think that...the newest team in the NHL has the league's oldest arena."
At least Seattle as we know of today Thunder played in that arena. Which is insane
Seattle has to be one of the cities with the best stadiums.
The arena is completely new. Only the old roof structure remains.
Key Arena is horrible. But the Seattle metropolitans won the Stanley Cup in 1917, the first US team to do so. So Seattle has a LONG hockey history.
Key Arena was completely demolished. Only the roof remains.
@curtismartin2866 it was not demolished. The roof, windows, and much of the base structure were kept. It was an extensive refurbishment, but it doesn't change the Amazon arena sucks, mostly due to the location. The location made sense in 1962 for the world's fair. The city council hated the man that got hokey back to Seattle and didn't want him to build a modern arena that would have been good for basketball and hockey. Now the people of Seattle and the citizens of Washington are paying off refurbishment of the worst arena in the US.
@@meatbyproducts The window frames were retained. Literally nothing beyond that was. When the Washington State Pavillion was built for the 1962 World's Fair, the floor was at street level. Even when it was remodeled into the Seattle Center Coliseum, the floor remained. The Bubbleator was moved to the Center House/ Armory building. When Key Arena was built on the site, the construction included excavation of 35 feet. When Climate Pledge was constructed, excavation of another 15 feet was required. Everything under the roof was demolished - except the window frames.
The Kraken are owned by the Oak View Group - the same group that developed Climate Pledge Arena. Chris Hansen's group rab into silly city council politics - mostly because the structure of the council was altered.
@@meatbyproducts You simply do not know what you're talking about. The NHL did not award a franchise to Seattle until the Arena development had been confirmed. The developer - the Oak View Group - is also the team owner. There was.o tax money used in the construction of Climate Pledge due to Initiative 91. And except for some window frames, literally nothing from Key Arena remains. You have been misinformed.
@@curtismartin2866 and it is still a bad arena in a horrible location.
It’s such a pain to get there wish they would’ve just built it next to T-mobile park like that one guys had it drawn up!
The oldest roof in the nhl
Climate pledge is awesome. Great venue.
My first sojourn there was 1975 to see the SuperSonics defeat Pistol Pete and the NO Jazz
Fun fact they play in Kent which is 30 mi out of Seattle
Everything was demolished. They kept the roof they built the arena below it while holding roof with pillars.
Oldest arena, sure. Most up to date facilities and green energy efficient, definitely. That place is awesome. Until you have to leave. Then you're stuck in an hour of traffic just to go one mile to the freeway.
Nah, it's a new arena. The entire thing was demolished except for the roof, MSG is still the oldest arena still in use.
Do a vid on the flames arena in calgary...
Technically Climate Pledge is the newest arena in the NHL because only the roof is original. The arena underneath is all brand new.
One of the coolest arenas more cities should bury they’re arenas less clutter in the skyline is always nice especially with a stadium roof they’re never that nice too look at well unless it’s this one
The reno made is essentially a brand new arena. It was completely gutted and essentially totally rebuilt.
Could have sworn we had the thunderbirds like 10 years ago but maybe I'm just going crazy.
Thunderbirds still play. They just moved to Kent. They just won a championship last year
Now it’s time for the Sonics to return!!
Kraken ownership tried to get a new arena but the city strong armed them into using this one to get it rebuilt..
For what it’s worth, the Climate Pledge Arena might as well be an entirely different building to the Key Arena
It’s very nice though
The only thing left from the old arena is the roof, everything else is brand new underneath.
dont let this short fool you, cpa is completely renovated. better than most arenas today
There are three NHL arenas ready to go in Canada but Bettman will ever put another team here
The Seattle Seaman!
It's a new stadium they just used the roof from the old one bc it's iconic
Fun fact: it used to be called the Key Arena
The arena itself is new. The roof is old.
Guy was carrying a fish
Bring back the Seattle sonics!!!
I grew up in Seattle...believe me it's a band-aid arena!!
Yeah show the love
Next year, arizona is moving to saltlake city(Utah) cuz of the arena
Put some respect on my city. That place is state of the art. That's where our Sonics will play in 2 years.
This video is wildly inaccurate
As a Seattle resident I can authenticate this video as 100% accurate ✔️
I don't understand why people like you make comments like this and not give an explanation. I'm not saying you are right or wrong but why even comment if you're not going to state your case as to why it is "wildly inaccurate"?
First team in the Pacific Northeast? " Screams in Canucks"!!!
The only old part of that building is the roof they demolished the whole building under it everything else is brand new eco green construction designed to be carbon neutral so technically it’s the newest
Don’t forget Dota 2’s The International was held there!
I love how i learned more about the areena from reading the comments and not from the video lol.
Bruh Seattle got a hockey team before the Sonics
Bro the only thing that’s old about climate pledge arena is the roof. Only because the city made them keep it.
Great building, HORRIBLE location. If you know, you know. Should have been built near the other two stadiums.
CPA is not downtown. It's in the Queen Anne neighborhood.
"Located in Downtown Seattle"... No one in Seattle calls that neighborhood "downtown". It's in Lower Queen Anne or just call it Seattle Center.
saying "renovated" is a complete mischaracterization of what happened here. They demo'd an old arena and built an entirely new arena all while keeping the roof in tact which is a city landmark. The roof and some panes of glass are the only things that remain of the prior key arena.
And the Beatles
Fun fact: also houses the most bum shits in the walkways around the stadium
LOL BUM SHITS!
Maybe they're protesting the stupid name. CPA, one dump at a time.
Technically not in downtown. It's in Lower Queen Anne (or Uptown).
Been to lot of concerts there.
MSG is technically the oldest arena
Seattle Metropolitans 1917 Stanley Cup champs.
This is Total BS. The building was completely rebuilt and majorly expanded at a cost of over a billion dollars. All that was really retained was the roof structure.
Thats really cool its nice to see the stadium being reused and not being torn down
*the roof
Everything under it was torn out. It's a new arena with an old roof.
It was 95% torn down
Climate Pledge (Fund) as a sponsor for an arena has to be the most self righteous, pious, cheesy and nauseating name ever