The Spurs are returning to the Alamodome for one game to celebrate their 50th anniversary, but in a full-stadium configuration used by the NCAA Final Four. Its old basketball setup is used for the Texas high school tournaments. Kiel Auditorium was best known for the Veiled Prophet Ball, and its stage was shared with the adjourning Opera House. The Opera House still stands today, but the arena was replaced by Enterprise Center (originally called Kiel Center) for the St. Louis Blues, replacing the old St. Louis Arena (Checkerdome), where the Hawks played occasionally.
I saw that Friday night. I remember when they used to cover some sections of the seats with big blue curtains when the spurs were regular tenants there til the now AT&T center opened 20 years ago
I hate when they play basketball in an indoor football stadium. Ya got 80,000 seats but only about 10,000 are any good. I did like when they would 'half dome' it as they did in the 80's and 90's. 4:42 Those would have about 40,000 seats but probably 30,000 had a good view of the game.
The sonics "moved" to okc in the same way a child is kidnapped, completely illegally. Screw the thunder. Any way the tacoma dome is interesting. I occasionally attend events there, mostly monster truck shows, and the ceiling is massive.
Couple small corrections: The Raptors arena isn’t just for them. They share it with the NHL’s Maple Leafs. The Indiana State Fair Coliseum’s main tenant nowadays is the Indy Fuel hockey team of the ECHL, essentially the equivalent of AA in baseball.
The Air Canada Centre started out as an arena just for the Raptors, but midway through construction they struck a deal with the Leafs to share it with them and modifications were made to accommodate hockey. As I recall, both the Leafs and the Raptors wanted to build new arenas in the 1990s, and there was kind of a competition to see which plan would prevail.
@@sacvideo1998 The building was also originally constructed in 1938 and served as the Toronto Postal Delivery Building, there is a lot of the original building they didn't tear down, namely the eastern and southern walls, they kept the facade and built the new arena behind it.
Yeah, when I saw the Sonics come up in this video, I figured an 80% chance it would be about the Kingdome, and a 20% chance it would be about the T-Dome. Turned out to be the latter. Which pleased me, actually.
The Sonics played in Tacoma Dome one year only because Seattle Center Coliseum was being gutted and rebuilt within the existing roof… this became Key Arena. The Kingdome was used for full seasons from 1978-85, supposedly, and for select games before the Key renovation. Of course the Sonics and the Kingdome are gone, and Key Arena has been gutted and rebuilt within the existing roof as Climate Pledge Arena, as home for the NHL Seattle Kraken and awaiting what many believe to be new NBA expansion to Seattle.
The Alamodome was also used for Canadian Football and was built to fit the dimensions of a regulation CFL field with the full end zones. It was built to lure an expansion CFL team in 1993 during the first phase of the CFL expanding into the US. It was finally used for the CFL in 1995 when the Sacramento Gold Miners moved to San Antonio and became the Texans
The Raptors' original idea was for what is now the Scotiabank Arena was to build a stadium specifically for basketball, but then the Maple Leafs bought the Raptors after construction had begun and changed the design to a multi-purpose stadium.
if there is one constant I have noticed is the most shared is Hockey and Basketball. Likely due to both being indoors and supporting similar audience sizes along with the seating layouts being extremely compatible. Compare to say the disaster that was trying to multi-purpose Football and Baseball which have totally different play area shape requirements.
@@filanfyretracker The two sports don’t always fit neatly together in an arena. The New York Islanders moved to the Barclays Center in Brooklyn used by the relocated Brooklyn Nets. The seating at the venue was constructed with basketball sight lines in mind, not hockey. Fans attending Islanders games with second deck seats behind one of the goals could not see about a quarter of the ice (closest to them) due to the overhang of their deck. The main scoreboard was also positioned askew from center ice as it had been positioned originally with a basketball court only in mind.
Yeah the silverdome was a strange venue for an NBA arena, but it did set up some unique situations. I saw a playoff game of Detroit v Atlanta during the 'Bad Boys' era and it set an NBA attendance record, at the time of more than 63,000 fans, and that was pretty wild! Pistons had more attendance than the Lions.
The palace was used from ‘88 to ‘17. I worked there briefly during the Bad Boys era. The pistons played at the silverdome from ‘78 to ‘88. The Palace had as much character as a KMart
@@phattmama5368 yes The silverdome was a football venue designed for the lions. It was also huge, even for a football stadium. So it was way too big for a basketball arena. But the pistons used it for a while, undoubtedly to save money. The Palace was completed in 1988 and the pistons used it for many years until the new owner wanted to move the team back to Detroit.
FYI, in March of 1985 the Pistons returned to Cobo Hall for some regular season action. In March, the Pontiac Silver Dome was damaged because of a weather event. Pistons were forced to play home games at the Joe Louis Arena. Their return to Cobo was forced because of a scheduled rock concert at the JLA. Cobo was a cool venue to see basketball it was tight.
The Pacers played at the Indiana State Fair during their ABA days. It would be interesting to talk about other ABA arenas. I heard that the Nets played at an armory in Teaneck, NJ for a time.
The WNBAs Indiana Fever played one year at the Fairgrounds Arena and one at Hinkle Fieldhouse at Butler while the Conseco Fieldhouse was being renovated. The early days on the ABAs New Jersey Americans, later known as the Nets, is when they played at the Teaneck Armory.
I saw the Boston Celtics play the Raptors in the SkyDome. I don’t remember thinking that it seemed awkward or outrageous having hoops there. I do remember the Raptors playing the Kobe-Shaq Lakers in Maple Leaf Gardens one night because there was something going on at the SkyDome. I thought that was way rad. I remember a stranger feeling from when I saw the Tampa Bay Lightning play the Dallas Stars in what is now Tropicana Field back in the day.
Multi-purpose arenas are making a comeback. Chicago's NOW arena (formerly Sears Center) and Orleans Arena in Las Vegas feature a stage or a wall at one end where they can hang a scoreboard for basketball or hockey. Basketball has also been arranged for the stage itself at Radio City Music Hall, but it was for WNBA.
I will gladly call Orleans an amphitheater that hosts occasional basketball games, even if it was originally built with hockey somewhat in mind. Sears Center… hasn’t that been too far away from Chicago proper for any sport team to survive there? Guess I reject the premise.
The Sonics also played in KeyArena in Seattle, and the Kingdome. The Jazz played in the Salt Palace in Utah, and several interesting arenas in New Orleans as well.
The Timberwolves played their first few seasons in the HHH Metrodome in Minneapolis. That was a stadium that was built for the Twins, Vikings, and Gophers football team to play in. I had a friend that saw the Timberwolves play in their first season at “The Dome” (that’s what people who live in the area called it) and he said that from his seat, the court looked like a postage stamp.
@1:07 The Raps share the arena with the Maple Leafs. Also, Cobo Arena closed in 2010, and was renovated as apart of Cobo Center (now Huntington Place).
Good list. You missed the New Orleans Jazz (now in Utah) when they played in the Super Dome and before that the played in Loyola Field House before the Super Dome opened.
The coliseum at the fairgrounds in Indianapolis is probably more known for being the home of the Indy Fuel hockey team. That venue doesn't currently host any roller derby, but the IUPUI basketball team does play there too. It is a very nice venue after the renovations!
For now, until the Fuel get their new arena. I did take a road trip to a Fuel game at the Coliseum a few years ago, and it's not bad for being as old as it is. Before that, the last time I went to a hockey game in Indianapolis was for the Ice at Market Square Arena (which of course is long gone).
@@kevinbushracing58 The list itself is puzzling. There’s really nothing “weird” about the Tacoma Dome, and, the Sonics played only 1 regular season there.
The Jazz played at the cavernous Superdome, and before that, some of their inaugural season at Loyola Field House. Both strange places. I was just a kid, but I vividly remember the field house's raised floor and netting to keep players such as Pistol Pete from falling off. Cramped, hot, steamy, smoky. Then to see them at the Dome was quite a switch.
The Jazz also played part of the first season at Municipal Auditorium, where a stage could be brought down with ropes into the middle of the arena, so center-court seats in the balcony had obstructed views. I saw the Shrine Circus from one of those seats one Thanksgiving. During January and February the Auditorium was used for Carnival balls (most famously the meeting of Rex and Comus that closed out Mardi Gras), so the Jazz went to Loyola. Municipal's been abandoned since Hurricane Katrina.
I remember going to the Silverdome for basketball quite a few times.... it WAS odd , but kind of cool at the same time. they hung a HUGE curtain across part of it - That was probably the largest curtain I ever saw. You could wrap your house in it !
The Indiana Fairgrounds Coliseum is still in fantastic condition and hosts a hockey team as well now. I go there all the time to watch some on ice action. It's always cool when a historic sports facility is able to be used and changed to fit modern needs yet maintaining the classic original look.
I saw a Pistons game at the Silverdome when I was maybe 9 or 10 years old, and the one thing I remember about the stadium particularly was that they had a giant white curtain set up to block off the unused areas, lol. Also I remember reading somewhere that the Pistons once set a record for attendance there, something like 63000, if I am remembering correctly!
Big blue curtain behind one of the baskets. My older brother’s high school graduation was held there, and they used only the section where the basketball court was . The curtain was still up!
I went to several Pacers games at the State Fairgrounds Coliseum. Unless during the first year there were no seats near the court, both the end and side areas had folding chairs for games. Also, pre renovation, the capacity was over 9,000, with many standing room only games it over 10,000. Capacity was reduced to under 7,000 during the last renovation.
I went to the raptors at skydome with my late grandfather when I was kid. Even as a kid I thought it was weird, but looking back Im glad i got that weird rare experience, with someone I miss dearly.
When the timberwolves debuted they played at the Metrodome. They held and still might home the record for attendance for a regular season in the NBA. It was super weird seeing them play in the dome
Fun fact: Cobo Center was also where Martin Luther King first delivered his “I Have a Dream” speech. Yep, he first gave it in Detroit before he gave it in D.C.
I really like the look of the Indiana Fairgrounds and the Chicago Amphitheatre. I love most of the old arenas, almost always each one looks really different from one another. Each had their own character.
The Cleveland Cavaliers used to play in a coliseum out in the middle of nowhere. Richfield, OH the Richfield Coliseum. It's long gone now I think the last year there was '93-'94 season. It was demolished and now it's just an open field.
The Richfield Coliseum was in the middle of nowhere, (my friend Paul said it was the only NBA arena where you had to worry about hitting a deer while driving to or from it) but it was a conventional arena, home to the Cavs, NHL Barons, WHA Crusaders, IHL Lumberjacks, MISL Force and many great concerts.
Ike, you forgot one of the weirdest NBA arenas ever. In 1987 Commercial Developer Joseph Benvenuti purchased the NBA's Kansas City Kings. The team played in KC for one more season before moving to Sacramento. However, Sacramento did not have an NBA arena for the Kings to play games. Benvenuti owned numerous buildings and he converted one of his buildings into a Kings practice facility. The Sacramento City Council would not approve the building for NBA games but Benvenuti was able to receive the approval as a "practice facility" and he was able to sell tickets to visitors. For the first season, the King's games were listed as practices and visiting teams could come and "practice" with the Kings. The facility had temporary seating for just over 10,000 seats. later Benvenuti add four small corner boxes that hung from the ceiling as VIP and owners boxes. The next season the city council approved the King's "arena" which they used until the Arco Arena was constructed down the street. I still have ticket stubs from those original games at what was known as the original Arco Arena. BTW: Benvenuti was the first team owner to sell stadium naming rights.
FYI.. the name of the football team that played at the Skydome in Toronto was The Toronto Argonauts of the CFL who now play at the same stadium as Toronto FC of the MLS. The Skydome was conceived because of them. The Raptors move to the new arena built for the NHL team the Toronto Maple Leafs which they still share today. One ownership group now owns all but the Toronto Blue Jays. The Alamodome had a CFL team briefly in 1995 known as the San Antonio Texans.
Scotiabank Arena construction was actually started by the Raptors ownership group in 1997...midway through construction, the Leafs bought Raptors, which allowed them to share the arena.
That was a weird story. Steven Stamkos, the Raptors owner, didn't want to play at Maple Leaf Gardens because they had a justified reputation for high rents. He was going to build his own new arena, which did become Air Canada Arena/Scotiabank Arena/whoever it is this year. The Leafs intended to build their own new Gardens, on the site of the Coliseum at the CNE grounds, but when Maple Leaf Gardens bought into the Raptors, the new Raptors arena was hastily redesigned to accommodate hockey and the Leafs. The Coliseum was renovated and became home to the Leafs AHL team, the Marlies
@@JD200_ Sounds like that was only the initial plan. In the end, it was built for both the Raptors and Leafs, and both have been tenants since its construction.
Remember watching the Blazers on TV in New Orleans the first year of the Jazz. The Superdome wasn’t completed yet, and IIRC, they played in 5 different arenas their first season. The game I saw, it was maybe a college arena that had netting surrounding the court. I sort of remember a player or two flying into the netting chasing after loose balls.
One correction, Sonics played for a year in Tacoma Dome it was not their main arena, They played at Key Arena in Seattle which underwent renovations at time. They would play a few pre seasons games at the Tacoma Dome after that. Boston Garden has been my nostalgic stadium. One you left out was the Cow Palace for the Warriors, it was a very odd building for basketball.
The Cow Palace is an odd building for hockey as well. The NHL rejected it as a venue when the California Seals joined the NHL, but had no issues with the San Jose Sharks using it while their arena in San Jose was being built.
@@srbmod93his is because the Seals merged with the north stars due to a financial collapse and the seating capacity was far too inadequate even for expansion standards. Plus, the Seals struggled in the revenue department as the Cow Palace isn't very kind for hockey fans and the players who had to play on the surface and Oakland made no attempt to seek out land to break ground. So, you're skipping out on a few key details there. I love hockey btw.
I was at the Tacoma Dome last weekend for the high school basketball tournament..the season the Sonics played there was famous for Seattle choking again in the 1st rd against the Lakers...
Nowadays, the Tacoma Dome is used for concerts and the high school basketball state championships. A curtain is put up to separate the stadium into 2 courts I believe. It's a pretty cool thing. I think they also had high school football games there too. I saw a concert there and it has a really cool vibe to it.
The Tacoma Dome was only a temporary home when the Seattle Center Coliseum was being renovated into Key Arena. Key was again rebuilt into Climate Pledge Arena for the NHL Kraken, also home of the WNBA Storm.
@@gregsells8549 Then owner Abe Pollin in 1982 considered selling the Capital to a group that would have moved them to the Tacoma Dome. Other options we’re selling it to a group that would have moved them to Regina Sasatuwan or merge with the Colorado Rockies and move the New Jersey. In the end he got a tax break on admissions, and 10 guaranteed sellout thanks to corporate Washington and the team stayed in DC and finally made the postseason that year.
Saw Prince in 1984, I think. HIs Purple Rain tour. And saw Trever Noah there in 2019, which was my most recent Tacoma Dome attendance. Yeah, cool vibe.
The high school football championships (all levels) used to be played there, too, but recent adjustments made the seating for football quite awkward and WIAA eventually pulled the games out. Tacoma Dome was really interesting for trying to be a truly flexible facility that would look like an arena for indoor sports and a stadium for field sports, but that was still only half-realized. I’ve seen hockey, indoor soccer, basketball, and full field soccer there. I have a couple stories. A concert promotion firm has the run of the place now, hence less sports, and probably for the better.
I went to a restaurant in the Sky Dome in Toronto, there was a live event taking place in the stadium. We were so psyched that there was a table available right in the middle by the windows. Was quite a let down when we sat down and had a perfect view of the Dog Show that was taking place.
The way they set up that seating in Toronto makes me think that they should do an outdoor game similar to what the NHL does. That would be cool to watch.
They could set up a game at the BMO field where the Toronto FC play. (Soccer team). It would do nicely for an outdoor basketball game I think, though it would probably have to be an exhibition game since the weather in Toronto during the course of the regular NBA season is not basketball friendly, at least not until the postseason.
I find it weird that the Cobo Hall (famously pictured on the back cover of the KISS Alive! album) is still standing in some capacity, but both the Silverdome and the Palace of Auburn Hills arena that the Pistons moved to afterwards have since been demolished. A fun fact about the Tacoma Dome. Some of the timbers in the dome's roof are salvaged wood from what Mt. St. Helens blew down when it erupted in 1980.
Raptors have never had an arena just for them. Since moving out of the Skydome they have shared the Air Canada Centre (now Scotiabank Arena) with the Toronto Maple Leafs
@@scottcostello1786 i know they moved in together at same time but didn’t realize they changed up the plans. Thanks for the reply! Meet back in a year? Hahah
The raptors share the arena with the NHL Toronto Maple Leafs. The only reason they didn't move into the Maple Leafs old arena was because it didn't meet NBA standards.
Fun Fact: The largest arena used in the Australia/New Zealand National Basketball League (NBL) would only rank it 20th in current NBA arena size. That arena is the Sydney SuperDome (Qudos Bank Arena), the same main venue used for basketball and gymnastics at the 2000 Sydney Olympics. It seats 18,200 in basketball setup.
I saw my first NBA game at Skydome when I was 8 years old, the Raptors vs. the Washington Bullets (at the time). I sat way up in the 5th deck in those $5 seats as described in the video (I sat around the same section as shown in this video's thumbnail). The Raptors lost, but oh well...good times.
So strange that the Raptors didn't play in Maple Leaf Gardens primarily. Originally the plan for the Air Canada Center was that it was the Raptors only and the Leafs would stay in Maple Leaf Gardens. But the Gardens were getting old so the entire Air Canada Center plans were shifted to accommodate the Leafs.
They didn't play in maple leaf gardens because at the time they came into the league they were owned by a separate ownership group. During the time when the then Air Canada Centre, now Scotiabank arena was being built the original owners of the Raptors couldn't afford them and were bought out by the Leafs or rather MLSE or Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment mainly because they were also looking for somewhere for a new arena as well. In the season that the Raptors and Leafs moved into the ACC the Raptors did end up playing the first part of their season in Maple Leaf gardens though, because they didn't renew the agreement for the SkyDome because of only needing it for part of the season.
The Alamodome was originally marketed to us San Antonians as the home for the Spurs after they wanted to leave Hemisfair Arena. After the Spurs complained enough, the SBC Center (now AT&T Center) was built for them by Bexar County leaving this eyesore downtown and millions wasted by the city of San Antonio. Good ol’ Henry Cisneros got his dream stadium built though.
I like the Alamodome, it’s great for football, I’ve seen several games there. A city the size of SATX needs a big stadium so I would gently push back and say it’s not a waste. The stadium is also within walking distance of the Riverwalk and other attractions.
@@briankady1456 The owner of the Cowboys has something to say about it and he and majority of NFL owners would have to vote yes. I don't think he wants another team in his backyard.
You forget to mention with regards to the Boston Garden that it was originally built not with basketball, not even with hockey, but with boxing in mind. Hence why the seats were so close.
I used to go to pistons games at the silverdome. And lions games. Yes it was strange for basketball but it had its advantages. I’d usually go with a big group of friends and sit in the third level. Tickets were like $3 and general admission so we’d get there as early as possible so we could sit in the first row. And since there were so many seats it never sold out so you could go to any game, any time including the playoffs. The best was game 6 of the eastern conference finals in 1988 when the pistons finally ousted the Celtics. Wow what a party that was! Also, Cobo arena is gone. More than ten years. The convention center is still there and has been remodeled.
0:35 That's how they did it in 1998 was done in Atlanta back then, when the attendance record of 62,000 for an NBA game was reached and then of course against Chicago with Michael Jordan, now the record was set by the Golden State Warriors with 68,000 spectators, however, they actually used the WHOLE stadium and not just such a small part like Bulls in 98
I’m from Washington State, the Tacoma Dome is definitely still used for sports. High school football and basketball play their state championship games at the Dome. They do high school wrestling there as well!
I am from Tacoma and remember when they were building the Tacoma Dome. It was something to see. Went to its grand opening; my mother was hoping to see Ricky Nelson perform (he was supposed to do a set for the opening), but he never showed up, which pissed a lot of people, including my mother, off. I have been back a handful of times over the years. It is the perfect venue for concerts.
The Kiel Theater was actually called the Kiel Auditorium. There was also an attached Opera House that still stands attached to the Enterprise Center that replaced it (originally called the Kiel Center). It seems that there are actually 7 theaters of various sizes inside that building. Lots of stages on that block of the city!
They also played some games at Maple Leaf Gardens. Scotiabank Centre or what opened as the Air Canada Centre was never just for the Raptors. Both the Toronto Maple Leafs and Raptors were planning to build their own arenas but eventually plans changed to share a facility and later both teams were owned by the same company.
The Keil Auditorium is probably most notable for NWA pro wrestling where under promoter Sam Mushnick it was a Friday might staple for years and years with basically anyone who was anyone in pro wrestling working those shows
For the Hawks since moving to Atlanta, their first permanent arena, the Omni Coliseum, was known for its distinctive egg crate-like roof and weathering steel facade. The weathering steel, intended to seal itself with a layer of surface rust, was ill-suited for Atlanta's humid climate. After the Omni was demolished, and what became State Farm Arena was being built on its footprint, the Hawks played at the Georgia Dome for most of their games, with some being played at Georgia Tech (where they played for their first four seasons in Atlanta) when there were other events at the Georgia Dome, namely Falcons games.
When I was a kid, the Detroit Pistons shared the Pontiac Silverdome with the Lions. They had a very unique set up for NBA games seeing as the Silverdome was like 5 times the size of an NBA arena.
The Pontiac Silverdome also used the Piston's setup to host a round of NCAA mens basketball tournament in the late 80's or early 90's. I think it was for the Sweet 16. They were able to fit a lot of fans in there. My Boy Scout troop ran a concession stand as a fundraiser is the only reason I remember it. Got to watch it for free while working. Miss the Silverdome, a bunch of memories there.
I actually got to play a high school basketball game in the Pontiac Silverdome. I’m only 5’ 7” and remember not being able to see the rim while shooting a free throw because lights were shining in my eyes. I guess my eye level was were the numbers would have been on most of the NBA players. One unique thing about the Silverdome was that the roof was held up by air. When you entered the arena you could feel the wind blowing out through the doors.
The seating in the Alamodome for the back home in the dome game for the spurs was very unique with over 68,000 people there. My plaza level seats were still a mile away from the court and I was like the 13th row
The Indiana State Fairgrounds Coliseum, at one time called Pepsi Coliseum, Fairgrounds Coliseum, and now the Indiana Farmer's Coliseum, was home to a big disaster in 1963. There was a huge gas explosion during a Holiday on Ice performance. A liquefied natural gas tank stored with several others had sprung a leak in a room under the stands. Once it came in contact with a spark at a concession stand, it exploded not just once, but twice. While emergency services were quick to respond, still 81 people died, and a further 400 were injured. This makes it one of the biggest stadium disasters in history.
The Indy Fuel (ECHL affiliate of the Blackhawks) still play at the State Fair Coliseum. Although these are the last couple seasons for them there as they are building a new arena for them.
I sat in the opper decks watching The Raptors. But they share their arena now with the Leafs in the NHL and for years shared with also with Toronto Rock from the NLL.
I was at the Silverdome in 1991 for the NCAAM Midwest Regional with UConn, Ohio State, St. John's and Duke. It was the home court for Detroit Mercy at the time.
This is actually very sad to see how greed has created an environment where teams no longer want to share stadiums. Sharing venues seems beneficial for the communities they serve by ensuring a better utilization rate for the building.
It’s not cost-efficient for an NBA franchise to lease a city or county-owned NFL stadium for a full season. Plus, the sight lines are obviously not going to provide the best value for the consumer. Granted, I loved seeing the SuperSonics at the Dome as a kid/preteen, but, as an adult, it doesn’t attract my attention ($$$) at all. It’s good to see the newer NBA gyms built with fan intimacy in mind. 18,000 seats seems about right. Anything above that just seems too big.
Sat in the upper deck at Raptors games as a kid. Slam seats! The view was awful, but being able to see an NBA game as a kid for that price was amazing.
"They got their own stadium, just for them" about the Raptors is an interesting way to put it. Let's be real, the Maple Laughs are the real reason they got that arena built.
The arena (I still call it the ACC- Air Canada Centre) was actually originally supposed to be just for the Raptors. About midway through the construction process, the Leafs decided they wanted to move out of Maple Leaf Gardens and into the ACC, which resulted in some last-minute alterations. So no, actually it is a fact that it was the Raptors that got the ball rolling on the ACC.
The main use of the coliseum at the Indiana State Fair right now is ECHL hockey with the Indy Fuel, although the Fuel are supposed to move out soon to a brand new venue in the suburbs. With a naming rights deal, it is currently called the Indiana Farmers Coliseum. The other primary tenant for the Coliseum is IUPUI men's basketball because their on-campus gym is just way too small with a mere 1,215 seats. The Coliseum is also used throughout the fair each year for livestock shows and concerts. The renovations were so extensive that they basically tore it down to the bare walls and completely rebuilt the seating bowl. Roller derby might be making a comeback to the Coliseum after the Fuel leave, but it has not hosted a derby bout for several years. The local derby franchise suspended operations during the pandemic.
I believe one of those Gardens games was their first home game of the abbreviated 1998-99 season, and it was likely because, with ACC opening up right afterward, it wouldn't have made sense to set up the basketball configuration in SkyDome for just one game.
The Spurs are returning to the Alamodome for one game to celebrate their 50th anniversary, but in a full-stadium configuration used by the NCAA Final Four. Its old basketball setup is used for the Texas high school tournaments. Kiel Auditorium was best known for the Veiled Prophet Ball, and its stage was shared with the adjourning Opera House. The Opera House still stands today, but the arena was replaced by Enterprise Center (originally called Kiel Center) for the St. Louis Blues, replacing the old St. Louis Arena (Checkerdome), where the Hawks played occasionally.
The St.Louis Arena would have made a great historic Missouri landmark. But a certain group of politicians in St.Louis thought otherwise.
Yep there was almost 70,000 people in attendance yesterday.
I saw that Friday night. I remember when they used to cover some sections of the seats with big blue curtains when the spurs were regular tenants there til the now AT&T center opened 20 years ago
68,323 were in attendance
I hate when they play basketball in an indoor football stadium. Ya got 80,000 seats but only about 10,000 are any good. I did like when they would 'half dome' it as they did in the 80's and 90's. 4:42 Those would have about 40,000 seats but probably 30,000 had a good view of the game.
The sonics "moved" to okc in the same way a child is kidnapped, completely illegally. Screw the thunder.
Any way the tacoma dome is interesting. I occasionally attend events there, mostly monster truck shows, and the ceiling is massive.
Couple small corrections:
The Raptors arena isn’t just for them. They share it with the NHL’s Maple Leafs.
The Indiana State Fair Coliseum’s main tenant nowadays is the Indy Fuel hockey team of the ECHL, essentially the equivalent of AA in baseball.
The Air Canada Centre started out as an arena just for the Raptors, but midway through construction they struck a deal with the Leafs to share it with them and modifications were made to accommodate hockey. As I recall, both the Leafs and the Raptors wanted to build new arenas in the 1990s, and there was kind of a competition to see which plan would prevail.
@@sacvideo1998 The building was also originally constructed in 1938 and served as the Toronto Postal Delivery Building, there is a lot of the original building they didn't tear down, namely the eastern and southern walls, they kept the facade and built the new arena behind it.
@@sacvideo1998 why didn’t they just play in Maple Leaf Gardens when they first started? Was it too small for nba standards?
@@TBtheking405216 no but it’s used by Ryerson (Now TMU) University
And also hosted NCAA Tournament games during the COVID Tournament.
Cobo Arena after 2010 was no longer an arena, reopened in 2015 as a large banquet hall/event space for the adjacent convention center.
The Sonics also played in the Kingdome. The basketball court setup is very similar to Detroit, Toronto, and San Antonio.
They did play at the king dome , but it was rained out...d&*n ceiling titles..
Yeah, when I saw the Sonics come up in this video, I figured an 80% chance it would be about the Kingdome, and a 20% chance it would be about the T-Dome. Turned out to be the latter. Which pleased me, actually.
I always thought the Key Arena looked cool. Those older stadiums (built before the 80's/90's) seemed smaller and more manageable.
The Sonics played in Tacoma Dome one year only because Seattle Center Coliseum was being gutted and rebuilt within the existing roof… this became Key Arena. The Kingdome was used for full seasons from 1978-85, supposedly, and for select games before the Key renovation.
Of course the Sonics and the Kingdome are gone, and Key Arena has been gutted and rebuilt within the existing roof as Climate Pledge Arena, as home for the NHL Seattle Kraken and awaiting what many believe to be new NBA expansion to Seattle.
@@PCSPounder Ok, that's the name of the place before the rehab. Thanks.
The Alamodome was also used for Canadian Football and was built to fit the dimensions of a regulation CFL field with the full end zones. It was built to lure an expansion CFL team in 1993 during the first phase of the CFL expanding into the US. It was finally used for the CFL in 1995 when the Sacramento Gold Miners moved to San Antonio and became the Texans
I think the NFL used it when the Saints went on the road for the 2005 season following Hurricane Katrina.
The Raptors' original idea was for what is now the Scotiabank Arena was to build a stadium specifically for basketball, but then the Maple Leafs bought the Raptors after construction had begun and changed the design to a multi-purpose stadium.
if there is one constant I have noticed is the most shared is Hockey and Basketball. Likely due to both being indoors and supporting similar audience sizes along with the seating layouts being extremely compatible. Compare to say the disaster that was trying to multi-purpose Football and Baseball which have totally different play area shape requirements.
@@filanfyretracker The two sports don’t always fit neatly together in an arena. The New York Islanders moved to the Barclays Center in Brooklyn used by the relocated Brooklyn Nets. The seating at the venue was constructed with basketball sight lines in mind, not hockey. Fans attending Islanders games with second deck seats behind one of the goals could not see about a quarter of the ice (closest to them) due to the overhang of their deck. The main scoreboard was also positioned askew from center ice as it had been positioned originally with a basketball court only in mind.
@@hwyfan The Coyotes had the same issue when they played at America West Arena (now the Footprint Center)
Yeah the silverdome was a strange venue for an NBA arena, but it did set up some unique situations. I saw a playoff game of Detroit v Atlanta during the 'Bad Boys' era and it set an NBA attendance record, at the time of more than 63,000 fans, and that was pretty wild! Pistons had more attendance than the Lions.
Could go to any game, any time on the cheap with the third level.
So the places wasn’t around in the 90s thought the sliver dome was for the lions
The palace was used from ‘88 to ‘17. I worked there briefly during the Bad Boys era. The pistons played at the silverdome from ‘78 to ‘88. The Palace had as much character as a KMart
@@phattmama5368 yes The silverdome was a football venue designed for the lions. It was also huge, even for a football stadium. So it was way too big for a basketball arena. But the pistons used it for a while, undoubtedly to save money. The Palace was completed in 1988 and the pistons used it for many years until the new owner wanted to move the team back to Detroit.
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FYI, in March of 1985 the Pistons returned to Cobo Hall for some regular season action. In March, the Pontiac Silver Dome was damaged because of a weather event. Pistons were forced to play home games at the Joe Louis Arena. Their return to Cobo was forced because of a scheduled rock concert at the JLA. Cobo was a cool venue to see basketball it was tight.
The Pacers played at the Indiana State Fair during their ABA days. It would be interesting to talk about other ABA arenas. I heard that the Nets played at an armory in Teaneck, NJ for a time.
The WNBAs Indiana Fever played one year at the Fairgrounds Arena and one at Hinkle Fieldhouse at Butler while the Conseco Fieldhouse was being renovated.
The early days on the ABAs New Jersey Americans, later known as the Nets, is when they played at the Teaneck Armory.
The Denver Rockets (now Nuggets) played at the Auditorium Arena.
67-68 in the armory
I saw the Boston Celtics play the Raptors in the SkyDome. I don’t remember thinking that it seemed awkward or outrageous having hoops there. I do remember the Raptors playing the Kobe-Shaq Lakers in Maple Leaf Gardens one night because there was something going on at the SkyDome. I thought that was way rad.
I remember a stranger feeling from when I saw the Tampa Bay Lightning play the Dallas Stars in what is now Tropicana Field back in the day.
The former AirCanada Centre in Toronto was built for hockey, basketball, indoor football, and indoor track and field.
Multi-purpose arenas are making a comeback. Chicago's NOW arena (formerly Sears Center) and Orleans Arena in Las Vegas feature a stage or a wall at one end where they can hang a scoreboard for basketball or hockey. Basketball has also been arranged for the stage itself at Radio City Music Hall, but it was for WNBA.
I will gladly call Orleans an amphitheater that hosts occasional basketball games, even if it was originally built with hockey somewhat in mind. Sears Center… hasn’t that been too far away from Chicago proper for any sport team to survive there?
Guess I reject the premise.
The New York Liberty played at Radio City while the Democratic National Convention was at Madison Square Garden.
The Sonics also played in KeyArena in Seattle, and the Kingdome. The Jazz played in the Salt Palace in Utah, and several interesting arenas in New Orleans as well.
The New Orleans Jazz probably played some basketball games in the Louisiana Superdome, but I could be mistaken
@@leonardweirich539 You are correct! Loyola Field House (1974-1975)
Municipal Auditorium (1974-1975)
Louisiana Superdome (1975-1979)
The Timberwolves played their first few seasons in the HHH Metrodome in Minneapolis. That was a stadium that was built for the Twins, Vikings, and Gophers football team to play in. I had a friend that saw the Timberwolves play in their first season at “The Dome” (that’s what people who live in the area called it) and he said that from his seat, the court looked like a postage stamp.
5:27 "The setup looks like it would great for concerts..."
Oh yes indeed! Bob Seger's "Live Bullet" album and most of "Kiss Alive" was recorded there!
@1:07 The Raps share the arena with the Maple Leafs. Also, Cobo Arena closed in 2010, and was renovated as apart of Cobo Center (now Huntington Place).
The ACC was built specifically for the raptors
@@JD200_ When construction started on it it was, until the Leafs bought the Raptors halfway through construction because they wanted a new arena too.
Good list. You missed the New Orleans Jazz (now in Utah) when they played in the Super Dome and before that the played in Loyola Field House before the Super Dome opened.
My father took me to a Jazz game at the Superdome in 1977. I needed binoculars to watch.
The coliseum at the fairgrounds in Indianapolis is probably more known for being the home of the Indy Fuel hockey team. That venue doesn't currently host any roller derby, but the IUPUI basketball team does play there too. It is a very nice venue after the renovations!
For now, until the Fuel get their new arena. I did take a road trip to a Fuel game at the Coliseum a few years ago, and it's not bad for being as old as it is. Before that, the last time I went to a hockey game in Indianapolis was for the Ice at Market Square Arena (which of course is long gone).
As a Sonics fan in the 90s and early 2000s, it still hurts to be reminded that they are in Oklahoma now :(
Why
You forgot the Timberwolves played at the metrodome before the target center was opened
It says "10". Not all weird ones ever.
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The list itself is puzzling. There’s really nothing “weird” about the Tacoma Dome, and, the Sonics played only 1 regular season there.
Crazy how some are so old yet still look really modern some architects we’re highly skilled making some of these arenas timeless
The Jazz played at the cavernous Superdome, and before that, some of their inaugural season at Loyola Field House. Both strange places. I was just a kid, but I vividly remember the field house's raised floor and netting to keep players such as Pistol Pete from falling off. Cramped, hot, steamy, smoky. Then to see them at the Dome was quite a switch.
I remember when the Jazz played at the Superdome and like you said similar to the Pistons at the Pontiac Silverdome.
The Jazz also played part of the first season at Municipal Auditorium, where a stage could be brought down with ropes into the middle of the arena, so center-court seats in the balcony had obstructed views. I saw the Shrine Circus from one of those seats one Thanksgiving. During January and February the Auditorium was used for Carnival balls (most famously the meeting of Rex and Comus that closed out Mardi Gras), so the Jazz went to Loyola. Municipal's been abandoned since Hurricane Katrina.
Timberwolves played in the metrodome when they first came into the league.
Year 1: Set an attendance record
Year 5: Attempt to move to New Orleans
I remember going to the Silverdome for basketball quite a few times.... it WAS odd , but kind of cool at the same time. they hung a HUGE curtain across part of it - That was probably the largest curtain I ever saw. You could wrap your house in it !
Crazy
I went to many games there back in the day. Including when the pistons finally ousted Boston in 1988.
@@Rob2068 a VERY cool game !
The Indiana Fairgrounds Coliseum is still in fantastic condition and hosts a hockey team as well now. I go there all the time to watch some on ice action. It's always cool when a historic sports facility is able to be used and changed to fit modern needs yet maintaining the classic original look.
I saw a Pistons game at the Silverdome when I was maybe 9 or 10 years old, and the one thing I remember about the stadium particularly was that they had a giant white curtain set up to block off the unused areas, lol. Also I remember reading somewhere that the Pistons once set a record for attendance there, something like 63000, if I am remembering correctly!
Big blue curtain behind one of the baskets. My older brother’s high school graduation was held there, and they used only the section where the basketball court was . The curtain was still up!
I remember 93,173 for Wrestlemania 3 at the silverdome
Spurs breaking that record tonight
@@Ryan999tx took away my bragging rights for being at the most attended nba game in history
@@kevinjoy7728 I’m sorry man
I went to several Pacers games at the State Fairgrounds Coliseum. Unless during the first year there were no seats near the court, both the end and side areas had folding chairs for games. Also, pre renovation, the capacity was over 9,000, with many standing room only games it over 10,000. Capacity was reduced to under 7,000 during the last renovation.
The Indy Fuel of the ECHL are the primary beneficiaries of the last renovation.
The windows gave it such a cool old school field house type vibe.
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I grew up in Denver and used to listen to Rockets- Pacers games on the rodeo. That place was loud. Pacers were very good.
I went to the raptors at skydome with my late grandfather when I was kid.
Even as a kid I thought it was weird, but looking back Im glad i got that weird rare experience, with someone I miss dearly.
The Toronto Raptors shared their arena with The Toronto Maple Leafs(NHL), after they moved from the Sky Dome.
When the timberwolves debuted they played at the Metrodome. They held and still might home the record for attendance for a regular season in the NBA. It was super weird seeing them play in the dome
They've got a couple games from 1990 in the top ten largest crowds for a regular season game.
The Spurs just broke the record for a single game attendance, they packed the Alamodome against GSW with 68,000 fans
Fun fact: Cobo Center was also where Martin Luther King first delivered his “I Have a Dream” speech.
Yep, he first gave it in Detroit before he gave it in D.C.
I’ve been to the Memphis Pyramid as a basketball arena and bass pro both are very cool
I really like the look of the Indiana Fairgrounds and the Chicago Amphitheatre. I love most of the old arenas, almost always each one looks really different from one another. Each had their own character.
The Indiana Farmers Coliseum is also used for hockey, the Indy Fuel of the ECHL have played there since the team started playing in the 2014-15 season
The Cleveland Cavaliers used to play in a coliseum out in the middle of nowhere. Richfield, OH the Richfield Coliseum. It's long gone now I think the last year there was '93-'94 season. It was demolished and now it's just an open field.
Also home of the Lumberjacks for a few seasons. A Lumberjacks game was my only time there. Definitely out in the middle of nowhere.
The Richfield Coliseum was in the middle of nowhere, (my friend Paul said it was the only NBA arena where you had to worry about hitting a deer while driving to or from it) but it was a conventional arena, home to the Cavs, NHL Barons, WHA Crusaders, IHL Lumberjacks, MISL Force and many great concerts.
Ike, you forgot one of the weirdest NBA arenas ever. In 1987 Commercial Developer Joseph Benvenuti purchased the NBA's Kansas City Kings. The team played in KC for one more season before moving to Sacramento. However, Sacramento did not have an NBA arena for the Kings to play games. Benvenuti owned numerous buildings and he converted one of his buildings into a Kings practice facility. The Sacramento City Council would not approve the building for NBA games but Benvenuti was able to receive the approval as a "practice facility" and he was able to sell tickets to visitors. For the first season, the King's games were listed as practices and visiting teams could come and "practice" with the Kings. The facility had temporary seating for just over 10,000 seats. later Benvenuti add four small corner boxes that hung from the ceiling as VIP and owners boxes. The next season the city council approved the King's "arena" which they used until the Arco Arena was constructed down the street. I still have ticket stubs from those original games at what was known as the original Arco Arena. BTW: Benvenuti was the first team owner to sell stadium naming rights.
Why did the King's ever leave Arco Arena again? That place was awesome
FYI.. the name of the football team that played at the Skydome in Toronto was The Toronto Argonauts of the CFL who now play at the same stadium as Toronto FC of the MLS. The Skydome was conceived because of them. The Raptors move to the new arena built for the NHL team the Toronto Maple Leafs which they still share today. One ownership group now owns all but the Toronto Blue Jays. The Alamodome had a CFL team briefly in 1995 known as the San Antonio Texans.
Scotiabank Arena construction was actually started by the Raptors ownership group in 1997...midway through construction, the Leafs bought Raptors, which allowed them to share the arena.
1:07 Raptors: "Just for them". And some little team called the Toronto Maple Leafs.
... and the Indiana Fairgrounds Coliseum's main tenant now is the Indy Fuel of the ECHL.
The arena was built specifically for them
That was a weird story. Steven Stamkos, the Raptors owner, didn't want to play at Maple Leaf Gardens because they had a justified reputation for high rents. He was going to build his own new arena, which did become Air Canada Arena/Scotiabank Arena/whoever it is this year. The Leafs intended to build their own new Gardens, on the site of the Coliseum at the CNE grounds, but when Maple Leaf Gardens bought into the Raptors, the new Raptors arena was hastily redesigned to accommodate hockey and the Leafs. The Coliseum was renovated and became home to the Leafs AHL team, the Marlies
@@JD200_ Sounds like that was only the initial plan. In the end, it was built for both the Raptors and Leafs, and both have been tenants since its construction.
New Orleans Jazz played in the Louisiana Superdome. Among other places.
Remember watching the Blazers on TV in New Orleans the first year of the Jazz. The Superdome wasn’t completed yet, and IIRC, they played in 5 different arenas their first season. The game I saw, it was maybe a college arena that had netting surrounding the court. I sort of remember a player or two flying into the netting chasing after loose balls.
@@PCSPounder Loyola field house
One correction, Sonics played for a year in Tacoma Dome it was not their main arena, They played at Key Arena in Seattle which underwent renovations at time. They would play a few pre seasons games at the Tacoma Dome after that. Boston Garden has been my nostalgic stadium. One you left out was the Cow Palace for the Warriors, it was a very odd building for basketball.
The Cow Palace is an odd building for hockey as well. The NHL rejected it as a venue when the California Seals joined the NHL, but had no issues with the San Jose Sharks using it while their arena in San Jose was being built.
@@srbmod93his is because the Seals merged with the north stars due to a financial collapse and the seating capacity was far too inadequate even for expansion standards. Plus, the Seals struggled in the revenue department as the Cow Palace isn't very kind for hockey fans and the players who had to play on the surface and Oakland made no attempt to seek out land to break ground. So, you're skipping out on a few key details there. I love hockey btw.
I was at the Tacoma Dome last weekend for the high school basketball tournament..the season the Sonics played there was famous for Seattle choking again in the 1st rd against the Lakers...
@@elizabethpolito7589 The Cow Palace is in Daly City (San Francisco), not Oakland.
The Seattle SuperSonics also played at the Kingdome in the late 70s and early 80s.
Nowadays, the Tacoma Dome is used for concerts and the high school basketball state championships. A curtain is put up to separate the stadium into 2 courts I believe. It's a pretty cool thing. I think they also had high school football games there too. I saw a concert there and it has a really cool vibe to it.
The Tacoma Dome was only a temporary home when the Seattle Center Coliseum was being renovated into Key Arena. Key was again rebuilt into Climate Pledge Arena for the NHL Kraken, also home of the WNBA Storm.
@@gregsells8549 "climate pledge arena" Holy fucking virtue signal...🤣🤣🤣
@@gregsells8549 Then owner Abe Pollin in 1982 considered selling the Capital to a group that would have moved them to the Tacoma Dome. Other options we’re selling it to a group that would have moved them to Regina Sasatuwan or merge with the Colorado Rockies and move the New Jersey. In the end he got a tax break on admissions, and 10 guaranteed sellout thanks to corporate Washington and the team stayed in DC and finally made the postseason that year.
Saw Prince in 1984, I think. HIs Purple Rain tour. And saw Trever Noah there in 2019, which was my most recent Tacoma Dome attendance. Yeah, cool vibe.
The high school football championships (all levels) used to be played there, too, but recent adjustments made the seating for football quite awkward and WIAA eventually pulled the games out.
Tacoma Dome was really interesting for trying to be a truly flexible facility that would look like an arena for indoor sports and a stadium for field sports, but that was still only half-realized. I’ve seen hockey, indoor soccer, basketball, and full field soccer there. I have a couple stories.
A concert promotion firm has the run of the place now, hence less sports, and probably for the better.
I went to a restaurant in the Sky Dome in Toronto, there was a live event taking place in the stadium. We were so psyched that there was a table available right in the middle by the windows. Was quite a let down when we sat down and had a perfect view of the Dog Show that was taking place.
lol. The German Shepperd won I bet!
The way they set up that seating in Toronto makes me think that they should do an outdoor game similar to what the NHL does. That would be cool to watch.
They could set up a game at the BMO field where the Toronto FC play. (Soccer team). It would do nicely for an outdoor basketball game I think, though it would probably have to be an exhibition game since the weather in Toronto during the course of the regular NBA season is not basketball friendly, at least not until the postseason.
The Indiana State Fair Coliseum is also home to the Indy Fuel hockey team, the ECHL affiliate of the Chicago Blackhawks.
It's also used for many high school graduation ceremonies for schools around the Indianapolis area
I find it weird that the Cobo Hall (famously pictured on the back cover of the KISS Alive! album) is still standing in some capacity, but both the Silverdome and the Palace of Auburn Hills arena that the Pistons moved to afterwards have since been demolished.
A fun fact about the Tacoma Dome. Some of the timbers in the dome's roof are salvaged wood from what Mt. St. Helens blew down when it erupted in 1980.
The Pistons played in five arenas that no longer exist: the Olympia, Cobo, the Silverdome, the Palace and (very briefly) Joe Louis Arena.
The Boston Garden was built to host boxing matches, not hockey or basketball.
Raptors have never had an arena just for them. Since moving out of the Skydome they have shared the Air Canada Centre (now Scotiabank Arena) with the Toronto Maple Leafs
It was built specifically for them though
The ACC was built specifically for them
@@JD200_no it wasn’t. The initial plans were designed just for them. There were changes to the original design to accommodate hockey before the build.
@@scottcostello1786 i know they moved in together at same time but didn’t realize they changed up the plans. Thanks for the reply! Meet back in a year? Hahah
The raptors share the arena with the NHL Toronto Maple Leafs. The only reason they didn't move into the Maple Leafs old arena was because it didn't meet NBA standards.
Shoulda included the Blazers original memorial coliseum! It’s a bowl inside of a big glass box. It’s seen as architecturally significant now.
Bro please make the weirdest nhl stadiums
Fun Fact: The largest arena used in the Australia/New Zealand National Basketball League (NBL) would only rank it 20th in current NBA arena size. That arena is the Sydney SuperDome (Qudos Bank Arena), the same main venue used for basketball and gymnastics at the 2000 Sydney Olympics. It seats 18,200 in basketball setup.
I saw my first NBA game at Skydome when I was 8 years old, the Raptors vs. the Washington Bullets (at the time). I sat way up in the 5th deck in those $5 seats as described in the video (I sat around the same section as shown in this video's thumbnail). The Raptors lost, but oh well...good times.
So strange that the Raptors didn't play in Maple Leaf Gardens primarily. Originally the plan for the Air Canada Center was that it was the Raptors only and the Leafs would stay in Maple Leaf Gardens. But the Gardens were getting old so the entire Air Canada Center plans were shifted to accommodate the Leafs.
They didn't play in maple leaf gardens because at the time they came into the league they were owned by a separate ownership group. During the time when the then Air Canada Centre, now Scotiabank arena was being built the original owners of the Raptors couldn't afford them and were bought out by the Leafs or rather MLSE or Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment mainly because they were also looking for somewhere for a new arena as well. In the season that the Raptors and Leafs moved into the ACC the Raptors did end up playing the first part of their season in Maple Leaf gardens though, because they didn't renew the agreement for the SkyDome because of only needing it for part of the season.
The Alamodome was originally marketed to us San Antonians as the home for the Spurs after they wanted to leave Hemisfair Arena. After the Spurs complained enough, the SBC Center (now AT&T Center) was built for them by Bexar County leaving this eyesore downtown and millions wasted by the city of San Antonio. Good ol’ Henry Cisneros got his dream stadium built though.
I like the Alamodome, it’s great for football, I’ve seen several games there. A city the size of SATX needs a big stadium so I would gently push back and say it’s not a waste. The stadium is also within walking distance of the Riverwalk and other attractions.
I am really surprised that the Alamodome has not attracted an NFL team, although I think San Antonio keeps trying to land one.
@@briankady1456 The owner of the Cowboys has something to say about it and he and majority of NFL owners would have to vote yes. I don't think he wants another team in his backyard.
You forget to mention with regards to the Boston Garden that it was originally built not with basketball, not even with hockey, but with boxing in mind. Hence why the seats were so close.
Spurs are going back to the ‘Dome tomorrow. Full stadium this time, not just the north end. Trying to beat the NBA attendance record.
When the Raptors got to Toronto, an anxious stadium manager met them and said, "Honest, guys, we had no idea basketball courts were so small!"
Had to rewind because Im so used to stupid UA-camr intros and missed the first one 😂. Thank u for getting straight to it 👏🏼
I used to go to pistons games at the silverdome. And lions games.
Yes it was strange for basketball but it had its advantages. I’d usually go with a big group of friends and sit in the third level. Tickets were like $3 and general admission so we’d get there as early as possible so we could sit in the first row.
And since there were so many seats it never sold out so you could go to any game, any time including the playoffs. The best was game 6 of the eastern conference finals in 1988 when the pistons finally ousted the Celtics. Wow what a party that was!
Also, Cobo arena is gone. More than ten years. The convention center is still there and has been remodeled.
0:35 That's how they did it in 1998 was done in Atlanta back then, when the attendance record of 62,000 for an NBA game was reached and then of course against Chicago with Michael Jordan, now the record was set by the Golden State Warriors with 68,000 spectators, however, they actually used the WHOLE stadium and not just such a small part like Bulls in 98
Can you do top best nba arenas
How could the Seattle Kingdome not be on this list? I saw a game there in the early 90s. Giant domed stadium, much stranger than the Tacoma dome.
Yep -- saw the Sonics take on the Lakers from the nosebleed seats back in '83.
I’m from Washington State, the Tacoma Dome is definitely still used for sports. High school football and basketball play their state championship games at the Dome. They do high school wrestling there as well!
I am from Tacoma and remember when they were building the Tacoma Dome. It was something to see. Went to its grand opening; my mother was hoping to see Ricky Nelson perform (he was supposed to do a set for the opening), but he never showed up, which pissed a lot of people, including my mother, off. I have been back a handful of times over the years. It is the perfect venue for concerts.
I like this this guy's videos he gets right into the content no 2-minute intro or anything
The Kiel Theater was actually called the Kiel Auditorium. There was also an attached Opera House that still stands attached to the Enterprise Center that replaced it (originally called the Kiel Center). It seems that there are actually 7 theaters of various sizes inside that building. Lots of stages on that block of the city!
I'm from St. Louis and I remember the Wrestling matches their in the 70s-80s era.
@@kdaphi9928 hell yeah,wrestling at the chase,rember going to lots of stuff at the checkerdome as a kid
I remember seeing 1 game at the Silverdome. If you were in the cheap seats far away, you'd see the ball bounce and hear it a second later.
Great video!!! Love learning about these stadiums
No mention of the Cow Palace in San Francisco? It was similar in design to the Chicago auditorium and the Warriors played there in the 60s and 70s
That was built for Livestock shows , Hence the name COW Palace.
@@davidwesley2525 when they built it that place was the middle of nowhere. Now it seems crazy to have livestock shows in the middle of a city area.
They also played some games at Maple Leaf Gardens. Scotiabank Centre or what opened as the Air Canada Centre was never just for the Raptors. Both the Toronto Maple Leafs and Raptors were planning to build their own arenas but eventually plans changed to share a facility and later both teams were owned by the same company.
The Keil Auditorium is probably most notable for NWA pro wrestling where under promoter Sam Mushnick it was a Friday might staple for years and years with basically anyone who was anyone in pro wrestling working those shows
Y’all should have seen the Alamodome yesterday for the spurs 50 year anniversary game ! 68,000 people and the court configuration was crazy weird 😂
For the Hawks since moving to Atlanta, their first permanent arena, the Omni Coliseum, was known for its distinctive egg crate-like roof and weathering steel facade. The weathering steel, intended to seal itself with a layer of surface rust, was ill-suited for Atlanta's humid climate. After the Omni was demolished, and what became State Farm Arena was being built on its footprint, the Hawks played at the Georgia Dome for most of their games, with some being played at Georgia Tech (where they played for their first four seasons in Atlanta) when there were other events at the Georgia Dome, namely Falcons games.
When I was a kid, the Detroit Pistons shared the Pontiac Silverdome with the Lions. They had a very unique set up for NBA games seeing as the Silverdome was like 5 times the size of an NBA arena.
Haha, I left my comment before I got to the part in the video where you covered the SIlverdome. My bad lol
The Pontiac Silverdome also used the Piston's setup to host a round of NCAA mens basketball tournament in the late 80's or early 90's. I think it was for the Sweet 16. They were able to fit a lot of fans in there. My Boy Scout troop ran a concession stand as a fundraiser is the only reason I remember it. Got to watch it for free while working. Miss the Silverdome, a bunch of memories there.
In high school we could get upper deck tickets for $5. We would love to go to games there.
Capacity for baseball was about 52,000 when it opened in 1989. Modifications that removed obstructed seats happened at various times over the years.
The new Boston garden is also a hockey arena first.
The seats aren’t yellow for no reason.
The Alamo Dome also hosted a Canadian Football League team, too.
That's right - the San Antonio Texans
Where is the Metrodome? The Timberwolves still hold the NBA single-season attendance record from when they played there
I actually got to play a high school basketball game in the Pontiac Silverdome. I’m only 5’ 7” and remember not being able to see the rim while shooting a free throw because lights were shining in my eyes. I guess my eye level was were the numbers would have been on most of the NBA players. One unique thing about the Silverdome was that the roof was held up by air. When you entered the arena you could feel the wind blowing out through the doors.
1:08 The Toronto Raptors do NOT have a stadium to their own. They have ALWAYS shared it with the Toronto Maple Leafs of the NHL.
The seating in the Alamodome for the back home in the dome game for the spurs was very unique with over 68,000 people there. My plaza level seats were still a mile away from the court and I was like the 13th row
Those are all some beautifully unique statduims but nothing beats our Almodome here in San Antonio. We also had the Hemisphere Arena from 1968-1995
Domes used for basketball is still occuring. Carrier Dome is one of the best home courts in the USA.
The Indiana State Fairgrounds Coliseum, at one time called Pepsi Coliseum, Fairgrounds Coliseum, and now the Indiana Farmer's Coliseum, was home to a big disaster in 1963. There was a huge gas explosion during a Holiday on Ice performance. A liquefied natural gas tank stored with several others had sprung a leak in a room under the stands. Once it came in contact with a spark at a concession stand, it exploded not just once, but twice. While emergency services were quick to respond, still 81 people died, and a further 400 were injured. This makes it one of the biggest stadium disasters in history.
No mention of the Boston Garden's iconic parquet floor.
The Indy Fuel (ECHL affiliate of the Blackhawks) still play at the State Fair Coliseum. Although these are the last couple seasons for them there as they are building a new arena for them.
Shoutout to all these arenas for being creative with housing their NBA teams! Think outside the box!
I sat in the opper decks watching The Raptors. But they share their arena now with the Leafs in the NHL and for years shared with also with Toronto Rock from the NLL.
I was at the Silverdome in 1991 for the NCAAM Midwest Regional with UConn, Ohio State, St. John's and Duke. It was the home court for Detroit Mercy at the time.
Great video. No filler no bullshit just exactly what it should have been. Thanks for the work on this
I wouldn’t call Boston Garden weird the parquet floor made it look interesting
How about the Old Barn aka Hershey Arena. It was one of the home stadiums of the Philadelphia Warriors. It's where Wilt scored the famous 100pts.
Nobody believes me that Raptors tickets used to be $7. They even advertised it on the Subway trains
This is actually very sad to see how greed has created an environment where teams no longer want to share stadiums. Sharing venues seems beneficial for the communities they serve by ensuring a better utilization rate for the building.
It’s not cost-efficient for an NBA franchise to lease a city or county-owned NFL stadium for a full season. Plus, the sight lines are obviously not going to provide the best value for the consumer. Granted, I loved seeing the SuperSonics at the Dome as a kid/preteen, but, as an adult, it doesn’t attract my attention ($$$) at all. It’s good to see the newer NBA gyms built with fan intimacy in mind. 18,000 seats seems about right. Anything above that just seems too big.
Sat in the upper deck at Raptors games as a kid. Slam seats! The view was awful, but being able to see an NBA game as a kid for that price was amazing.
"They got their own stadium, just for them" about the Raptors is an interesting way to put it. Let's be real, the Maple Laughs are the real reason they got that arena built.
The arena (I still call it the ACC- Air Canada Centre) was actually originally supposed to be just for the Raptors. About midway through the construction process, the Leafs decided they wanted to move out of Maple Leaf Gardens and into the ACC, which resulted in some last-minute alterations. So no, actually it is a fact that it was the Raptors that got the ball rolling on the ACC.
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The main use of the coliseum at the Indiana State Fair right now is ECHL hockey with the Indy Fuel, although the Fuel are supposed to move out soon to a brand new venue in the suburbs. With a naming rights deal, it is currently called the Indiana Farmers Coliseum. The other primary tenant for the Coliseum is IUPUI men's basketball because their on-campus gym is just way too small with a mere 1,215 seats.
The Coliseum is also used throughout the fair each year for livestock shows and concerts. The renovations were so extensive that they basically tore it down to the bare walls and completely rebuilt the seating bowl. Roller derby might be making a comeback to the Coliseum after the Fuel leave, but it has not hosted a derby bout for several years. The local derby franchise suspended operations during the pandemic.
Raptors played games at Copps Coliseum in Hamilton.Did play a couple of games at Maple Leaf Gardens when ACC was under construction.
I believe one of those Gardens games was their first home game of the abbreviated 1998-99 season, and it was likely because, with ACC opening up right afterward, it wouldn't have made sense to set up the basketball configuration in SkyDome for just one game.
@@sportsmaster1364 ACC wasn't open-the NBA strike had ended.MLSE had purchased the Raptors and ACC so it made it easier for the RAPTORS to play at MLG