I tried to balance this video in terms of game mechanics and lore which I hope everyone enjoys, naturally there will be aspects of the fight I might have missed so please leave any tips and tricks for new players below! Likewise I might come back to Fatalis with a dedicate lore/history series in the future so let me know if this is something you would like to see :) Oh and p.s subscribe to see more videos like this!
I think a detail about this hunt that goes unnoticed a lot of the time is that the weather also advances as you lower Fatalis' health starting out in rainy poor weather and ending up with the sun shining as you triumphantly stand over Fatalis' lifeless body. Great video!
That's an amazing detail and I have no idea how I missed this, moving forward when covering big fights/moments in games I will for sure look out for these hidden details/metaphors! Thanks for watching, i'm glad you enjoyed :)
I hope to try some of the older games to see how different things are today, I've had Generations Ultimate sat on my shelf for a while now but havent got round to playing
@@ZennyHunterfor me the star of when Fatalis came out was Crimson or White. Black had an interesting arena mechanic but the highlight was the variations, my favorite is the white one (MH2G/MHFU) although all in all MHW is my favorite version of Fatalis for its different mechanics. In Frontier there is some white variation where if it hits you with one of its lightning attack it kicks you from the quest, like it obliterates you on that particular quest lol
Monster Hunter is just one of those games with real magic, no other game can give you that feeling of over coming a boss like that. For me it was Alareon, I started playing MH in Tri when I was a kid and I'd always see videos of Alareon and sometimes endgame players would join my lobby and I'd see the gear, but I wasn't good enough at the time make it to him let alone HR, finding a lobby that wanted to do Jhen was tough for me, probably just unluck. For years I lived with never being able to fight this thing. But when they shown is trailer for Iceborne the first time on the livestream I knew that I'd finally have my chance to prove myself, and after those many attempts when I finally got the kill and the Tri fanfare played what a beautiful game such a highlight of my younger years, it might sounds cringe or sappy but I cried a bit
It truly is a special feeling, for me the community being so positive adds to it a whole bunch. I keep telling myself these videos will just bomb with no views but always end up making their way to peoples homepages, thanks for watching!
In my opinion I think Isshin is the perfect boss fight in all gaming. Everything you have learned up to that point is required to beat him with the constant "hesitation is defeat" line ringing so true. Plus once you finally beat him the rest of the game all of a sudden feels so easy, it just makes you feel like you've truly mastered the mechanics
Man... soloing Fatalis was the proudest Ive ever been playing games. Even after hundreds, if not thousands of tries, Proof of A Hero playing after using the dragonator has never failed to hype up the fight. It really was the FINAL fight of World for me. Not long after completing the set and crafting the weapons, I hung up my armor and stopped. I was completely satisfied with the game and felt like Ive accomplished everything I wanted to do in World. What a way to get into the franchise. I cant wait for MH Wilds.
Head openings are heavily dependent on your weapon, and the best way to figure out these moves and timings would be to watch speedruns, or at least showcases. A really useful tip however is to use the roaming ballista to only aim for the head. I recommend using a binder + the ballista, along with tenderizing the head beforehand. Even though the ballistae do more damage to the body, you're actually progressing him to phase 3 faster, without damaging the head that way. It's trap. Always fully unload in his head. Start of phase 2 is the best way to do it, since you have a binder right behind the cover, you can drive the roaming ballistae to the far left binder, bind Fatalis, then use the roaming freely.
When the fatalis enters the third phase and the flames fill the entire arena, I think it's such a cool moment, and when proof of a hero starts playing, the first time I heard it, a tear of happiness and nostalgia came out lol. It's a very cool battle. Great Video, congrats. : )
Also pro tip in fighting Fatalis; try to hit not the chest or head but the WINGS, having the beast stay grounded is a godsend Along with that, there’s another overlooked trick, tenderising the head BEFORE wallbanging actually increases the partbreak damage the head (or any tenderised parts) takes, making it easier to break
Love this video bro, Reminds me how much I enjoyed World. Hope the next instillation steers away from the direction they were going with Rise and come back to this amazing gameplay. The hunts were always a thrill
Fatalis is one of the best fights in my Monster Hunter career. It's simple in terms of its movesets before phase 3, yet becoming one of the most difficult fights. The only problem I had with was that the required MR was only 24. Fatalis is currently my most hunted monster.
I’m doing a new playthrough rn on world with my roommate who’s never played before and I’m hoping I end up with a similar story as you. Thanks for the inspiration and congrats on your hard work paying off!
In four player team hunt discord we Sleep Fatalis infront of the 2 dragonators, 20 % of his hp Juicy damage and just killed him after in the knock down. The moment we get dragonator if we sleep him there it's a fight ender
Regarding breaking his head much more easily: The strategy is known as cone baiting. You disable your palico (not necessary but helps a lot) and stand in front of Fatalis at a certain distance to bait his cone aoe attack which leaves his head vulnerable to attack. Repeat until break. I only do this to farm the head and eye parts as I lose a lot of dps by not being perfectly good at the baiting, but I see speedrunners doing this with very high success rate. Tip: he only does it when he stands tall on two legs not four, and the highest chance of him performing the cone attack is after a side-to-side flame attack which explodes the ground after a second, if you are in front of him at the correct distance when the flame explodes he will often do the cone attack.
I've been practicing cone bating a little bit since this video, im still really inconsistent at getting it but when I do get it right it's crazy broken!
For the head breaks: it can be hard to hit the head if he’s standing on his hind legs and you’re not using Insect Glaive. To get him to go on all fours, there are a few strategies to do that. Standing on the ground a few meters/yards away from him directly in front, you can bait him into doing the cone of fire attack, which is a fairly decent opening. If he’s not enraged, doing a flinch shot will force him on all fours, and if he’s already on all fours, you can slam him into a wall for more damage. Hitting the belly enough times will make him do the flop attack where he falls onto the ground and gets up on all fours. He’ll also automatically do this attack if his belly breaks while he’s standing up. All other typical knockdowns and stuns will bring his head closer to the ground temporarily, like the siege weaponry knockdowns, the one-shot binder, paralysis, sleep, mount, etc. While he’s in one of these animations, you can’t actually break the head, but damage will still be accumulated toward the break. It will just never pass the threshold, so shooting a pod at the head after the knockdown can push the damage over the threshold and break the head.
Despite failing for 3 days straight originally, I have now beaten Fatalis on my first attempt TWICE, once with Longsword and the second time with Switch Axe! Note: by first attempt; I mean I start the quest in a new playthrough and I go from the intro cutscene all the way to beating Fatalis without failing the quest
Great video, I just beat him today after a lot of failed attempts and preparation. Hearing the proof of a hero song was like a final hope and I really loved what they did with this fight!
It's rlly funny how you made the comparison between Fatalis and Rathalos, because in the first Monster Hunter game, Fatalis' theme was actually just a remixed version of Rathalos' theme to represent the parallels between the two monsters.
Oh come the fuck on dude. Fatalis is a great fight, but 'no' bullshit design? You can't possibly unironically think something like, say, the tail hit boxes are even vaguely accurate or fair.
One tip for head openings is that by standing at medium distance, you can bait him into doing the cone breath. For a GS main like me, this attack is just basically free head dps
Yeah I got quite good at cone baiting but I'm a bit out of practice now, was going hunt him with hammer for the first time soon though so I'm sure baiting will be my priority
I've since got a lot of practice and want to keep pushing my time down, there's a lot of fun intracate mechanics in this fight that have been really fun to learn!
Main tips I can give are some weapon ones which are IG, GS, LS can all hit the head with hard hitting moves when fatalis takes certain attacks such as the belly flop along with the bites, and for the attack where he holds his head low and sprays an area with flame, IG can land the aireal spike attack, sns can land perfect rush, and GS can land a TCS with slinger burst for good damage on all of them. Also LS can counter a lot of the wind pressure attacks with a little bit of practice for some easy damage, you can roll the roar just as he raises his head for it, and a perk that I like to run is free meal secret with 7 max potions to keep myself topped up along with fortify cus unless you are flawlessly hunting him you will probably cart once or twice and the defence buff can save you with the attack being very nice as well. Final tip is the weapons that I have found the most luck with for hunting him being swax and IG with a health augment swax + temp/rocksteady being able to spam the head with zero sum for consistent head breaks and IG while having not the best damage being pretty good and quite mobile allowing for easy escapes and punishes. Final note is every attack with a breath for flame such as his flamethrower n stuff being safe to cluch claw (appart from the odd jank moment) and fireballs will hit you if you clutch claw the head, most fireball attacks are quite predictable and as such pretty easy to get a small punish Also great video and happy hunting you covered just about every major point for the hunt
Congratulation on the kill after 3 years man, this guy IS kinda bullshit. I remember taking a day off work (a good advise from a friend) while he first debuted, and I can still remember the stress I felt when I can't defeat him that day. I did kill him eventually, after many table slam, and it felt sooo good...
Definitely my favorite boss. I don't know how many times he killed me before I beat him, and I don't know how many times I farmed him. By the time I decided to solo him it was easy. Awesome fight.
First of all if you enter a boss area and you start hearing what sounds like dark souls/bloodborne music get ready for a fight you will never forget. Little side not what makes fatalis sooo cool he is one of two monster in mhw whos biggest attack cuts the music The amount of fire coming out of that monster is insane, no matter how many times i fight him that attack will never get old
ah yes fatalis, i played aerial IG against him in multiplayer, not having to deal with attacks aimed at my teammates+any fireballs targetted at me going into space really helps, on top of the obvious ~2 mounts per hunt. ofc, allowed me to target the head fulltime as well
From personal experience, maining Switch Axe, Dual Blades, Greatsword, Longsword - Greatsword is by far easiest to achieve head break with, it has inherent extra part break modifier. Best attack to punish is the one where he lowers his head to breathe the continuous cone of flame; he will do this attack only when standing on hind legs and when you are out of reach of his normal melee attack, so running around in front of him during phase 1 is easiest way to bait.
There’s nothing scarier than Fatalis’ blue flame mode, he’s a literal walking, flying nuke with the power to obliterate a civilization. The way I beat Fatalis for the first time and an easier way to break his head is with frostcraft greatsword, leave your palico at camp and fight him solo, stand about 8-10 meters away and bait his cone breath attack. You can deal big damage to his head and break it to make the rest of the fight easier. Also when it’s time to use the dragonator you absolutely do not want to stand on the second floor waiting for Fatalis to come over to you. He will just stand at a distance and continue pelting you with fire attacks. There’s a couple ways to get him over to the dragonator. One is when he is flying after he finishes flying he dives toward you so stand near the dragonator. Another way is to tank his nova where he flies to the side of the arena opposite to the dragonator. Tank the fire and heal with a max potion just before the big explosion, as long as you’ve broken his head once you can survive this and stand up immediately after the big explosion as the rest of the fire doesn’t deal damage. He dives towards the dragonator then you can use it easily. Or you can stay on the bottom level and try to bait him over but that’s slower and not as consistent. He’s definitely an amazing final boss and a really well designed and rewarding monster
for a tip, after you have broken his head and weakened his flames, the final 3 novas wont kill you if you are at full hp (with health augment 3, not sure about without). If you can full heal before the wind pressure hits you, you'll survive and can start healing again once you stand up to be safe. useful for when you cant make it to his position in time
This monster is so good that the difficulty is the culmination of everything you learned throughout the game. Capcom really outdid themselves with this Fatalis fight.
That's the intangible stuff Capcom could give you having a patience and perseverance playing through monster hunter games. (many gamers don't want this game because they say it's difficult and has so many mechnics) You will level up as a player. Once you know know how to play the game doesn't matter which version of the game you play you will definitely be able to fight the monsters with some adjustments. I was an MHFU player was able to play mh 3rd but the psp version. Wasn't be able to play 3rd in 3ds and also the fourth one but the moment I played world I thought i need to relearn how to play but no. It's still there despite not playing the other games for many years. It's still there, there's some little adjustment yes, but the skill as a player is still in me. That's what playing MH games could do to you.
The overall knowledge and feel for the games for sure carry over despit different playstyles. I felt like such a better player coming back to world after grinding rise
The Wallbang damage counts as head damage towards the break. Do not waste a wallbang when he is standing. Heavy Artillery + Ghillie Mantle are your friends as well.
something not said in the video fatalis has 2 modes standing on 2 legs and standing on 4 his moves change depending on the mode hes on when hes on 2 legs u can bait his fire cone but when hes on 4 he cant do it also when on 2 legs u cant shoot him at a wall he just falls on all 4 so dont do it when hes on 2 legs
His hitboxes are so wonky it´s ridiculous, hitting him with a melee weapon is difficult but when hes toenail comes anywhere near you it chunks 90% of your health. I managed to solo him but can´t bring myself to farm his evil eyes, even if you kill him the drop rate is low if you don´t break his head twice and don´t even bother trying this with randoms.
Yeah joining others SOS's is rough. I'm around half way to getting enough evil eyes for all weapons + their upgrades, i'm just taking my time with it I'm in no rush with a lot of time before Wilds
3 years later,Fatalis is still Fatal. I completed my Fatalis Full Set in 3 days all streamed on Twitch,like 6 kills but 10+ Fails before i Got all i need from Him,i Crafter his Cool Longsword The Zagesspannon first thing after First 2 Kills and Armor last.
I've seen it a few times in a video, you can actually cheese the later nova breaths by eating a max potion before the ramp up part, it will knock you back giving you i-frames for the rest of it, I don't know the full logistics behind it sadly I just know it can be done, also Lance players and I'd assume as well Gunlance players can block his big cone flame breath attack and make a safe zone for people behind you (guard up may be required). also for the love of god, when the dragonator goes up don't baby sit it, he will just spam flame breaths and fireballs at you, his ai is very much aware
Yeah I've watched a few guides that included that, for sure can be useful if you get wind pressured and are too far to get over to Fatalis. A great tip that I probably should have mentioned!
he is one of the best fights in the game i have yet to solo but at one point i was very close but he ended me before i could also he is kinda hard with IG but i still use it
I love the cone attack with my frostcraft greatsword. I think AT velkhana is harder because I cant see the screen with all the ice exploding everywhere.
I think I would actually agree that AT Velkhana is more challenging, seemingly most moves oneshot me even with the Fatalis 4 piece bonus and shes much quicker than Fatalis. Maybe I just need more practice haha
I think it's funny how all these new players think Monster Hunter World and Rise are tough. Veterans remember the real struggle in earlier games. Anyway I've gone through the same thing with other games. I go back to playing a game months or years after I gave up and I end up surpassing where I left off.
Other people make new save files so they can play from the start for videos. I make new save files because steam cloud services keep losing my files and I have to start fresh
Perhaps the only unfair thing about W:I Fatalis is how they nerfed shot type damage to its head compared to the previous games. It puts ranged weapons at a big disadvantage, so it can be a challenge for a solo range weapon player to get the double head break. It is my personal theory that even though WI Fatalis is doable solo, the devs intended it to be done in a party but didn't make it mandatory such as with Behemoth or the Kulve seige. It feels like they want people to form a party with a balance of range and melee users. Have ranged weapons hit its chest, giving melee users more opportunities to hit the head.
@ZennyHunter that NPC also uses a Heavy Bowgun. The First Wyvernians found in the maps would tell you how popular your equipped weapon type was when you talked to them. I remember shortly before Fatalis released the top 5 weapons were Longsword, Great Sword, Dual Blades, Bow and Charge Blade. I distinctly remember LS was nearly always 1st and me, being a bow main, remembers it went from 6th place to 4th. That was probably due to Master Rank Kulve releasing and people upgraded their Kjarr bows.
against Fatalis IF you play Charge blade go into savage axe you can easily stay under his hind legs and not get hit much run fire immunity mantle and temporal making it a lot more fun to hunt him
I missed out on fatalis, i got distracted by other games and friends stopped playing when he came out, i wanted to come back and beat him, but my PS4 had other plans and decided to kill itself so I lost my save. I got the game recently on PC and I plan to try him. I was able to solo Alaatreon so I could probably figure this out with some practice, i have heard the fight is biased towards certain weapons though, is he doable with hammer?
He's for sure doable with all weapons, you can learn a lot of the timings/openings from watching speedruns with your respective weapon (thats what I did anyway)
for me, fatalis has a big flaw in his damage numbers and poor hitboxes, a lot of the damage he deals is actually physical, and has some questionable hitboxes, and deal a metric crap ton of damage, usually in the 80 to 90 percent health with health boost 3, this fight is a pure unforgiving skill and build check and you dont get to faint if you are solo i think world and iceborne suffered from its mmo aspect, its a great community, but it makes some fights straight up annoying to go alone, safi, kulve, fatalis in a sense, most of these fights have been designed with four players in mind and i usually hunt solo because i find it more enjoyable and the mistakes are my own.
Monster hunter was always designed for multi-player. Up until the world, everything in the hub was always scaled for two or more players, and back in the ps2 games everything had WAY more health because it was made for 4 players and it wasn't made for it to even be possible to solo anything
@@ZennyHunter i dont think anyone saw TDS coming XD. that group seems to just be the group of the most bullshit level skilled players in the franchise XD.
Alot of ppl still now as i like to help with fatalis and aletryon with light weapons wehn you try and wund he drops dragon pods you can shoot it at him and 2 hits will stagger him oute of any attack (exept the scripted ones ).
Veteran hunter here, tips for breaking the head before phase 3, this requires feyline bombadier and heavy artillery lv2 as the start of phase 2 grab the binders on the right near where you took cover from the first nova, (This next step is easier with smoke bombs) Make sure his head is weakened before you do this and he's enraged, Use the binder on him and use the roaming ballista. Right after and unload the full clip into his face, If you were doing any damage to his head in first phase, this will most likely break his head, or do major damage to it, When you reach third phase run to the right and grab the second binder and use it on him, After all that His head should be very close to or at the second headbreak threshold. (For those of you who bring partbreaker, keep in mind that part breaker DOES NOT work for the second hedbreak) Edit: If you're really struggling with staying alive and you're using things like feyline safegaurd or insurance, Then take those instead of bombadier. More lives is more important than a little bit more damage.
Iceborne Fatalis is a much better designed fight than Alatreon. There's a reason why I have over 50 solo kills and only 2 Alatreon kills. My first kill with Alatreon made me hate the game, my first kill with Fatalis ended up with me cheering and hugging my dog who was nearby
Idk why I watch these videos. I'm already a very unskilled hunter, and recently just starting out my journey through World. And I gotta be honest with you, this does not fill me with confidence. It feels like those lieutenants in the army who dispatch you and tell you that you're going to die, and yell it at your face, smearing the spit on you and everything.
@@thesteve1388 I got to the coral highlands, and managed to delete Legiana & Paolumu as soon as I got there. But haven't played since because my controller broke down.
I like there are no perfect monster, each one have it flaw and fun point to fight, but fatalis with only 30m to fight (large health pool is fine, its hard is fine) and terrible ai for solo player is what i dislike, its the final boss, it shouldn't be rush.
Haha I'll take that comparison as a compliment, I agree he's not perfect mechanic wise but in terms of feeling and atmosphere he has to be pretty close IMO
I do actually think AT velky is harder in my experience. Fatalis wraps up the story of game in a grandeur way however where as AT velky feels like a fun challenge added to keep players busy
Hey I know this is a VERY late reply but if you still care... at 8:35 you can when carving that this is the very first time obtaining those items (as marked by the info icon and description).
I never responded to this comment all those months ago (being as its just negative and not much thought was put into it) but seeming as conversation has started up I might as well comment on it. So the reason I wasnt hitting the head in that clip was to get footage of his blue flames to use for my talking points at 4:47 . So to that rude remark there's your explaination... Secondly I just wanted to address that what you were watching was my first few times successfully beating Fatalis so I don't know what you would expect gameplay wise even with all that being said. Hope that helps!
@ZennyHunter it is like a 18 yo, which haven't driven a car 4 months ago and just got his driver's license to make a drifting tutorial. One word, pathetic.
@@ZennyHunter ha ha, my comment instantly deleted, I strucked a nerve there, the truth hurts, I guess. But let me repeat it once again, so it gets through your no brain thick skull again. It is just like a 18 yo which 4 months ago drove a vehicle for a first time in his life, getting it's driver's license and making a drifting tutorial. Circus.
He isnt, only delusional fatalis fans think he is, alatreon curbstomps fatalis in every way shape or form as a monster and a final boss lore/gameplay wise
Just to get a better understanding, would you mind breaking down a couple reasons you dislike him? I plan to revisit Icebourne as a whole retrospective in the future so your opinion is for sure valuable to hear
@@ZennyHunter -Powercreep Armor and weapons that destroyed the entire setbuilding that World had, making it way less replayable. The game kinda gets boring after Fatalis, because what do you do now? I guess you can fight AT Velkhana, but aside from that? Not really much. There's nothing really to do after Fatalis, cause you just craft his gear and win. There are only very specific circumstances where his armor is beaten out by AT Velkhana or Safi, but only in terms of damage. In terms or comfort, he is always the top choice, no matter what. -Pretty bad hitboxes, which is inexcusable for the amount of damage he does. If he does loads of damage, I atleast expect to only take that damage when I actually get hit. This is especially a problem because he came right after Alatreon, a monster that everyone can agree to have the best hitboxes in the entire game, making Fatalis hitboxes show even more flaws. -The 30 minute time limit is just artificial difficulty. It doesn't add anything to the hunt aside from making sure that only max optimised builds can clear him on a first hunt, which is even dumber when you realise that he is available at MR24, so a lot of people won't have optimised setups by that point or even good enough offensive focused decos. But that's more a problem with the deco system in World. -He feels like a real afterthought in the story. He just shows up out of nowhere with zero explanation, which is kinda lazy. Safi was amazing story wise since he had ties back the Base World story, but Fatalis just exists for the sake of existing. Made me feel very much not invested in the whole "this is the arch enemy of all hunters" thing. -He straight up punishes you for playing ranged. So, you know how you need to break his head in order to progress to phase 3 without the blue flames? Sounds simple enough, the game clearly wants you to focus on the head. That must mean it's clearly a weakpoint. Seems like that checks out, the untenderized hitzone for the head for blunt and cutting damage is both 75, so let's look at ranged. The untenderized hitzone for ranged is 33. This gets even worse when you find out that the tenderized hitzone is 44. And you know at which hitzone values weakness exploit starts to work? 45 This is just a straight up middlefinger to ranged players, making it so the head is such a low hitzone that you shouldn't even bother shooting at it. Oh well, I guess it's intentional game design for ranged players to get instantly killed by every single attack in phase 3. Yeah, not very good design. Lastly, some minor and more my personal problems: -His flying animations look extremly unrealistic and honestly look like they just slapped the high res model on his MH1 flying animations. He even straight up floats without flapping his wings during his novas. -His design is really boring. I get that's the point, but it still doesn't look very good, atleast in my opinion. -He has a lot of pretty obnoxious fans and some elitists that defend everything about him, even the obviously bad design choices. Express your critique about him. 90% of the time, you will get "skill issue!" in return. Just makes expressing your own thoughts very needlessly frustrating. Hope I could provide a good insight as to why I really, really don't like Fatalis.
@@Bones_MaIone Thank you for providing so much detail, I truly appreciate it. I'm pretty sure Fatalis was released as a bonus that was never realy planned due to covid (might be wrong on that but that's what I remember), if anything I think Fatalis was meant to be send of to an already complete game which is why we have the stupidly good armour for example. I agree that the fight itself has some bs hitboxes and random combos that ruin the fight which could have been ironed out for sure. Maybe we'll see him back in Wilds with an improved fight!
Depending on build Malenia can be a joke, assuming you aren't over leveled/geared though you are for sure correct. It took me around 8 hours of trying for my first malenia kill
@@brojakmate9872Please read responses before replying mate, this isnt the first time you've done this on my channel: "assuming you aren't over leveled/geared though you are for sure correct" I'm saying in a "fair" fight yes she is one of the hardest of all time, harder than fatalis . However its so easy to run at her with blasphemous blade as one of many examples and just stun lock her untill she dies. There is a cheese speed run strat like that for fatalis but in general there's no "giga op build" to cruise through him
I tried to balance this video in terms of game mechanics and lore which I hope everyone enjoys, naturally there will be aspects of the fight I might have missed so please leave any tips and tricks for new players below!
Likewise I might come back to Fatalis with a dedicate lore/history series in the future so let me know if this is something you would like to see :)
Oh and p.s subscribe to see more videos like this!
I think a detail about this hunt that goes unnoticed a lot of the time is that the weather also advances as you lower Fatalis' health starting out in rainy poor weather and ending up with the sun shining as you triumphantly stand over Fatalis' lifeless body. Great video!
That's an amazing detail and I have no idea how I missed this, moving forward when covering big fights/moments in games I will for sure look out for these hidden details/metaphors!
Thanks for watching, i'm glad you enjoyed :)
The sun, breaking over the horizon?
*Hmmmmm*
OMG is true.
Its more noticeable on amatsu
The fight was so hard that in its release it brought down every Monster Hunter player of all generations of all skill levels to its knees.
I hope to try some of the older games to see how different things are today, I've had Generations Ultimate sat on my shelf for a while now but havent got round to playing
@@ZennyHunter pre 5th gen is way clunkier and very very different in terms of skills, very warned
@@rudolfdirks9253 Yeah i've watched some other content creators try some and looks completley different
Not clunky. Just different. @@rudolfdirks9253
@@ZennyHunterfor me the star of when Fatalis came out was Crimson or White. Black had an interesting arena mechanic but the highlight was the variations, my favorite is the white one (MH2G/MHFU) although all in all MHW is my favorite version of Fatalis for its different mechanics. In Frontier there is some white variation where if it hits you with one of its lightning attack it kicks you from the quest, like it obliterates you on that particular quest lol
Monster Hunter is just one of those games with real magic, no other game can give you that feeling of over coming a boss like that. For me it was Alareon, I started playing MH in Tri when I was a kid and I'd always see videos of Alareon and sometimes endgame players would join my lobby and I'd see the gear, but I wasn't good enough at the time make it to him let alone HR, finding a lobby that wanted to do Jhen was tough for me, probably just unluck. For years I lived with never being able to fight this thing. But when they shown is trailer for Iceborne the first time on the livestream I knew that I'd finally have my chance to prove myself, and after those many attempts when I finally got the kill and the Tri fanfare played what a beautiful game such a highlight of my younger years, it might sounds cringe or sappy but I cried a bit
It truly is a special feeling, for me the community being so positive adds to it a whole bunch. I keep telling myself these videos will just bomb with no views but always end up making their way to peoples homepages, thanks for watching!
And it ironically is a game series with no magic in its world lol
The 2 moments I'll never forget from all my gaming, beating Isshin the Sword Saint and soloing Fatalis.
In my opinion I think Isshin is the perfect boss fight in all gaming. Everything you have learned up to that point is required to beat him with the constant "hesitation is defeat" line ringing so true. Plus once you finally beat him the rest of the game all of a sudden feels so easy, it just makes you feel like you've truly mastered the mechanics
The grand finale? Yeah, about that...
- You use the dragonator.
- Proof of a Hero starts playing
- 5 minutes later: Quest Failed
Man... soloing Fatalis was the proudest Ive ever been playing games. Even after hundreds, if not thousands of tries, Proof of A Hero playing after using the dragonator has never failed to hype up the fight. It really was the FINAL fight of World for me. Not long after completing the set and crafting the weapons, I hung up my armor and stopped. I was completely satisfied with the game and felt like Ive accomplished everything I wanted to do in World. What a way to get into the franchise. I cant wait for MH Wilds.
What about alatreon have you tried him
I'm sure he did since fati is after alatreon@@thesteve1388
Head openings are heavily dependent on your weapon, and the best way to figure out these moves and timings would be to watch speedruns, or at least showcases.
A really useful tip however is to use the roaming ballista to only aim for the head. I recommend using a binder + the ballista, along with tenderizing the head beforehand.
Even though the ballistae do more damage to the body, you're actually progressing him to phase 3 faster, without damaging the head that way. It's trap. Always fully unload in his head. Start of phase 2 is the best way to do it, since you have a binder right behind the cover, you can drive the roaming ballistae to the far left binder, bind Fatalis, then use the roaming freely.
As a heavy bowgun main I couldn't break head I had to beat him without breaking head
When the fatalis enters the third phase and the flames fill the entire arena, I think it's such a cool moment, and when proof of a hero starts playing, the first time I heard it, a tear of happiness and nostalgia came out lol. It's a very cool battle.
Great Video, congrats. : )
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed :))
Proof of a hero actually starts once fatalis reaches a certain health threshold, iirc it's at 15% hp
Also pro tip in fighting Fatalis; try to hit not the chest or head but the WINGS, having the beast stay grounded is a godsend
Along with that, there’s another overlooked trick, tenderising the head BEFORE wallbanging actually increases the partbreak damage the head (or any tenderised parts) takes, making it easier to break
Damn bro did everyone forget the best final boss? Great Jag race
Love this video bro, Reminds me how much I enjoyed World. Hope the next instillation steers away from the direction they were going with Rise and come back to this amazing gameplay. The hunts were always a thrill
Rise was definitely a great addition to the series as a portable game but yeah I hope Wilds sticks with the World direction as a main series title!
Fatalis is one of the best fights in my Monster Hunter career. It's simple in terms of its movesets before phase 3, yet becoming one of the most difficult fights. The only problem I had with was that the required MR was only 24. Fatalis is currently my most hunted monster.
Well said, similar to Alatreon is 100% think he should be locked behind MR100 as to not confuse newer players
@@ZennyHunter Yep! I really love your viewpoints on these videos. It's what most experienced hunters agree on.
I’m doing a new playthrough rn on world with my roommate who’s never played before and I’m hoping I end up with a similar story as you. Thanks for the inspiration and congrats on your hard work paying off!
In four player team hunt discord we Sleep Fatalis infront of the 2 dragonators, 20 % of his hp Juicy damage and just killed him after in the knock down. The moment we get dragonator if we sleep him there it's a fight ender
Regarding breaking his head much more easily: The strategy is known as cone baiting. You disable your palico (not necessary but helps a lot) and stand in front of Fatalis at a certain distance to bait his cone aoe attack which leaves his head vulnerable to attack. Repeat until break. I only do this to farm the head and eye parts as I lose a lot of dps by not being perfectly good at the baiting, but I see speedrunners doing this with very high success rate.
Tip: he only does it when he stands tall on two legs not four, and the highest chance of him performing the cone attack is after a side-to-side flame attack which explodes the ground after a second, if you are in front of him at the correct distance when the flame explodes he will often do the cone attack.
I've been practicing cone bating a little bit since this video, im still really inconsistent at getting it but when I do get it right it's crazy broken!
For the head breaks: it can be hard to hit the head if he’s standing on his hind legs and you’re not using Insect Glaive. To get him to go on all fours, there are a few strategies to do that.
Standing on the ground a few meters/yards away from him directly in front, you can bait him into doing the cone of fire attack, which is a fairly decent opening.
If he’s not enraged, doing a flinch shot will force him on all fours, and if he’s already on all fours, you can slam him into a wall for more damage.
Hitting the belly enough times will make him do the flop attack where he falls onto the ground and gets up on all fours. He’ll also automatically do this attack if his belly breaks while he’s standing up.
All other typical knockdowns and stuns will bring his head closer to the ground temporarily, like the siege weaponry knockdowns, the one-shot binder, paralysis, sleep, mount, etc. While he’s in one of these animations, you can’t actually break the head, but damage will still be accumulated toward the break. It will just never pass the threshold, so shooting a pod at the head after the knockdown can push the damage over the threshold and break the head.
As a SA main, I was superbly happy that ZSD existed because I don’t think I could consistently deal those head damages without it.
Man I’m not gonna lie your channel is mad underrated.
Much love mate, more videos to come :)
Despite failing for 3 days straight originally, I have now beaten Fatalis on my first attempt TWICE, once with Longsword and the second time with Switch Axe!
Note: by first attempt; I mean I start the quest in a new playthrough and I go from the intro cutscene all the way to beating Fatalis without failing the quest
Great video, I just beat him today after a lot of failed attempts and preparation. Hearing the proof of a hero song was like a final hope and I really loved what they did with this fight!
Congrats mate! Always a great feeling coming back to a game and finishing something you left uncomplete
It's rlly funny how you made the comparison between Fatalis and Rathalos, because in the first Monster Hunter game, Fatalis' theme was actually just a remixed version of Rathalos' theme to represent the parallels between the two monsters.
Oh wow I didn't know this, someday I'll try the older games just to experience how different they are
I saw a Japanese comment about that one thanks to YT having translations , He/She said that the composer mistook Fatalis as an evolution of Rathalos.
Ya man when I beat alatreon in 10 years I’m looking forward to this
No bullshit design just a badass lore accurate black dragon that breaths fire
Oh come the fuck on dude. Fatalis is a great fight, but 'no' bullshit design? You can't possibly unironically think something like, say, the tail hit boxes are even vaguely accurate or fair.
@@papapalps2415 skill issue? Never had a problem with it
@@pingu6338But the fact that you can't even deny the argumme is hilarous.
@@Amatsu_storm_approach nobody can argue with that, fatalis tail has a hitbox the size of a building
@@pingu6338 don't have a problem with it = good design. fucking clown
One tip for head openings is that by standing at medium distance, you can bait him into doing the cone breath. For a GS main like me, this attack is just basically free head dps
Yeah I got quite good at cone baiting but I'm a bit out of practice now, was going hunt him with hammer for the first time soon though so I'm sure baiting will be my priority
2 Dragon pods to flinch.....or so I'm told . I never fought a Fatalis. GG ,Dude
I love watching you learn the attacks and how to counter them throughout the fights, just like the alatreon video too
I've since got a lot of practice and want to keep pushing my time down, there's a lot of fun intracate mechanics in this fight that have been really fun to learn!
Main tips I can give are some weapon ones which are IG, GS, LS can all hit the head with hard hitting moves when fatalis takes certain attacks such as the belly flop along with the bites, and for the attack where he holds his head low and sprays an area with flame, IG can land the aireal spike attack, sns can land perfect rush, and GS can land a TCS with slinger burst for good damage on all of them. Also LS can counter a lot of the wind pressure attacks with a little bit of practice for some easy damage, you can roll the roar just as he raises his head for it, and a perk that I like to run is free meal secret with 7 max potions to keep myself topped up along with fortify cus unless you are flawlessly hunting him you will probably cart once or twice and the defence buff can save you with the attack being very nice as well. Final tip is the weapons that I have found the most luck with for hunting him being swax and IG with a health augment swax + temp/rocksteady being able to spam the head with zero sum for consistent head breaks and IG while having not the best damage being pretty good and quite mobile allowing for easy escapes and punishes. Final note is every attack with a breath for flame such as his flamethrower n stuff being safe to cluch claw (appart from the odd jank moment) and fireballs will hit you if you clutch claw the head, most fireball attacks are quite predictable and as such pretty easy to get a small punish
Also great video and happy hunting you covered just about every major point for the hunt
Great tips for a variety of weapons there, I'm sure others will find this useful! Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed :)
Congratulation on the kill after 3 years man, this guy IS kinda bullshit. I remember taking a day off work (a good advise from a friend) while he first debuted, and I can still remember the stress I felt when I can't defeat him that day. I did kill him eventually, after many table slam, and it felt sooo good...
Definitely my favorite boss. I don't know how many times he killed me before I beat him, and I don't know how many times I farmed him. By the time I decided to solo him it was easy. Awesome fight.
I love your content. Keep up the good work :)
Glad you enjoy it! More videos coming :)
Haven’t beaten this silly fella yet. My time will come soon.
First of all if you enter a boss area and you start hearing what sounds like dark souls/bloodborne music get ready for a fight you will never forget. Little side not what makes fatalis sooo cool he is one of two monster in mhw whos biggest attack cuts the music
The amount of fire coming out of that monster is insane, no matter how many times i fight him that attack will never get old
ah yes fatalis, i played aerial IG against him in multiplayer, not having to deal with attacks aimed at my teammates+any fireballs targetted at me going into space really helps, on top of the obvious ~2 mounts per hunt.
ofc, allowed me to target the head fulltime as well
From personal experience, maining Switch Axe, Dual Blades, Greatsword, Longsword - Greatsword is by far easiest to achieve head break with, it has inherent extra part break modifier. Best attack to punish is the one where he lowers his head to breathe the continuous cone of flame; he will do this attack only when standing on hind legs and when you are out of reach of his normal melee attack, so running around in front of him during phase 1 is easiest way to bait.
There’s nothing scarier than Fatalis’ blue flame mode, he’s a literal walking, flying nuke with the power to obliterate a civilization. The way I beat Fatalis for the first time and an easier way to break his head is with frostcraft greatsword, leave your palico at camp and fight him solo, stand about 8-10 meters away and bait his cone breath attack. You can deal big damage to his head and break it to make the rest of the fight easier.
Also when it’s time to use the dragonator you absolutely do not want to stand on the second floor waiting for Fatalis to come over to you. He will just stand at a distance and continue pelting you with fire attacks. There’s a couple ways to get him over to the dragonator. One is when he is flying after he finishes flying he dives toward you so stand near the dragonator. Another way is to tank his nova where he flies to the side of the arena opposite to the dragonator. Tank the fire and heal with a max potion just before the big explosion, as long as you’ve broken his head once you can survive this and stand up immediately after the big explosion as the rest of the fire doesn’t deal damage. He dives towards the dragonator then you can use it easily. Or you can stay on the bottom level and try to bait him over but that’s slower and not as consistent.
He’s definitely an amazing final boss and a really well designed and rewarding monster
Solid advice there regarding positioning for dragonstor, I'll keep that one in mind moving forward
My favorite fight of all time in gaming tbqh
for a tip, after you have broken his head and weakened his flames, the final 3 novas wont kill you if you are at full hp (with health augment 3, not sure about without). If you can full heal before the wind pressure hits you, you'll survive and can start healing again once you stand up to be safe. useful for when you cant make it to his position in time
This monster is so good that the difficulty is the culmination of everything you learned throughout the game. Capcom really outdid themselves with this Fatalis fight.
Agreed, it's an amazing 1v1
He was a wonderful experience
Parts that are tenderized will also take massive damage from wall bangs
It is never too late to come back to world and win.
Very true, very true.
Actualy the music maked me so nervous
Knowing you're so close to the end can cause people to start rushing and making mistakes, especially with a 30 minute timer
you got Evil Eye on your first carve?! bruh. thats awesome
Yeah pretty lucky,! I do have a clip where I got 3 from carves which I was going to include but thought it could be a bit bm haha
took me an hour to beat this guy with some chads i found in a lobby
WE WERE VICTORIOUS WITH STYLE
I've sice had a terrible time trying to hunt him in multiplayer haha, I always give up and just play solo instead
Zenith I'll honor my first Fatalis kill in your name bc of this vid, keep posting king 👑
Much love, make sure to let me know when you take him down :)
@@ZennyHunter I FUCKING DID IT WITH 20 SECONDS LEFT. Thank you for the motivation!
@@rivera3312 Absolute GOAT, congrats on the kill! Happy to have influenced you in some way :)))
Its about his power and what he was doing on the Ancient time
That's the intangible stuff Capcom could give you having a patience and perseverance playing through monster hunter games. (many gamers don't want this game because they say it's difficult and has so many mechnics) You will level up as a player. Once you know know how to play the game doesn't matter which version of the game you play you will definitely be able to fight the monsters with some adjustments. I was an MHFU player was able to play mh 3rd but the psp version. Wasn't be able to play 3rd in 3ds and also the fourth one but the moment I played world I thought i need to relearn how to play but no. It's still there despite not playing the other games for many years. It's still there, there's some little adjustment yes, but the skill as a player is still in me. That's what playing MH games could do to you.
The overall knowledge and feel for the games for sure carry over despit different playstyles. I felt like such a better player coming back to world after grinding rise
The Wallbang damage counts as head damage towards the break. Do not waste a wallbang when he is standing. Heavy Artillery + Ghillie Mantle are your friends as well.
something not said in the video fatalis has 2 modes standing on 2 legs and standing on 4 his moves change depending on the mode hes on when hes on 2 legs u can bait his fire cone but when hes on 4 he cant do it also when on 2 legs u cant shoot him at a wall he just falls on all 4 so dont do it when hes on 2 legs
His hitboxes are so wonky it´s ridiculous, hitting him with a melee weapon is difficult but when hes toenail comes anywhere near you it chunks 90% of your health. I managed to solo him but can´t bring myself to farm his evil eyes, even if you kill him the drop rate is low if you don´t break his head twice and don´t even bother trying this with randoms.
Yeah joining others SOS's is rough. I'm around half way to getting enough evil eyes for all weapons + their upgrades, i'm just taking my time with it I'm in no rush with a lot of time before Wilds
3 years later,Fatalis is still Fatal. I completed my Fatalis Full Set in 3 days all streamed on Twitch,like 6 kills but 10+ Fails before i Got all i need from Him,i Crafter his Cool Longsword The Zagesspannon first thing after First 2 Kills and Armor last.
Nice man, I'm working on crafting all fatalis weapons at the moment (just over half way there) and it's a tough grind, fun though!
another zenithhunter video lets gooooo
:))
My least favorite part about fatalis is that it is immune to stun damage( I’m a hammer main) which nurfs hammer and HH for no reason
I've seen it a few times in a video, you can actually cheese the later nova breaths by eating a max potion before the ramp up part, it will knock you back giving you i-frames for the rest of it, I don't know the full logistics behind it sadly I just know it can be done, also Lance players and I'd assume as well Gunlance players can block his big cone flame breath attack and make a safe zone for people behind you (guard up may be required). also for the love of god, when the dragonator goes up don't baby sit it, he will just spam flame breaths and fireballs at you, his ai is very much aware
Yeah I've watched a few guides that included that, for sure can be useful if you get wind pressured and are too far to get over to Fatalis. A great tip that I probably should have mentioned!
Guard up is actually not require for blocking cone breath.
Primordial Malzeno.
He was an absolute beast with such a cool design, I think I'll revisit some monsters from rise in the future on the channel
he is one of the best fights in the game i have yet to solo but at one point i was very close but he ended me before i could also he is kinda hard with IG but i still use it
I know a lot of people prefer to play MH in groups so to each their own, I can 100% see this fight being way more difficult with other weapons
I love the cone attack with my frostcraft greatsword. I think AT velkhana is harder because I cant see the screen with all the ice exploding everywhere.
I think I would actually agree that AT Velkhana is more challenging, seemingly most moves oneshot me even with the Fatalis 4 piece bonus and shes much quicker than Fatalis. Maybe I just need more practice haha
I think it's funny how all these new players think Monster Hunter World and Rise are tough. Veterans remember the real struggle in earlier games. Anyway I've gone through the same thing with other games. I go back to playing a game months or years after I gave up and I end up surpassing where I left off.
I ended up quitting the game because of this monster. It pains me that I had to give up at the last boss on a game I loved very much.
I was in the same boat, there's always time to come back and try again!
This is crazy insane.
Short Answer yes, long answer yeeeeeeeeeeeeees
Other people make new save files so they can play from the start for videos.
I make new save files because steam cloud services keep losing my files and I have to start fresh
Perhaps the only unfair thing about W:I Fatalis is how they nerfed shot type damage to its head compared to the previous games.
It puts ranged weapons at a big disadvantage, so it can be a challenge for a solo range weapon player to get the double head break.
It is my personal theory that even though WI Fatalis is doable solo, the devs intended it to be done in a party but didn't make it mandatory such as with Behemoth or the Kulve seige.
It feels like they want people to form a party with a balance of range and melee users.
Have ranged weapons hit its chest, giving melee users more opportunities to hit the head.
I like your theoy and certainly makes sense, the initial quest intro afterall has you fighting alongside NPC's
@ZennyHunter that NPC also uses a Heavy Bowgun.
The First Wyvernians found in the maps would tell you how popular your equipped weapon type was when you talked to them.
I remember shortly before Fatalis released the top 5 weapons were Longsword, Great Sword, Dual Blades, Bow and Charge Blade.
I distinctly remember LS was nearly always 1st and me, being a bow main, remembers it went from 6th place to 4th.
That was probably due to Master Rank Kulve releasing and people upgraded their Kjarr bows.
against Fatalis IF you play Charge blade go into savage axe you can easily stay under his hind legs and not get hit much run fire immunity mantle and temporal making it a lot more fun to hunt him
Yes, since the day it released a frw years ago
I missed out on fatalis, i got distracted by other games and friends stopped playing when he came out, i wanted to come back and beat him, but my PS4 had other plans and decided to kill itself so I lost my save. I got the game recently on PC and I plan to try him. I was able to solo Alaatreon so I could probably figure this out with some practice, i have heard the fight is biased towards certain weapons though, is he doable with hammer?
He's for sure doable with all weapons, you can learn a lot of the timings/openings from watching speedruns with your respective weapon (thats what I did anyway)
Unless they release Fatalis 2 in the next main series lol
Wouldn't be bad if MHW had another DLC and another final boss
for me, fatalis has a big flaw in his damage numbers and poor hitboxes, a lot of the damage he deals is actually physical, and has some questionable hitboxes, and deal a metric crap ton of damage, usually in the 80 to 90 percent health with health boost 3, this fight is a pure unforgiving skill and build check and you dont get to faint if you are solo
i think world and iceborne suffered from its mmo aspect, its a great community, but it makes some fights straight up annoying to go alone, safi, kulve, fatalis in a sense, most of these fights have been designed with four players in mind and i usually hunt solo because i find it more enjoyable and the mistakes are my own.
I find myself getting stuck on him a lot due to his size, it can really mess you up in certain situations
Monster hunter was always designed for multi-player. Up until the world, everything in the hub was always scaled for two or more players, and back in the ps2 games everything had WAY more health because it was made for 4 players and it wasn't made for it to even be possible to solo anything
You should shoot Fatalis's head with roaming balista, not chest. Makes the head break much easier.
i mean he was one shot by a kitty cannon so not really XD
yeahhh i dont think CapCom saw that one coming haha
@@ZennyHunter i dont think anyone saw TDS coming XD. that group seems to just be the group of the most bullshit level skilled players in the franchise XD.
@@jdogzerosilverblade299 They are an amazing group of players/creators. Definitely one of the inspirations for this channel!
Alot of ppl still now as i like to help with fatalis and aletryon with light weapons wehn you try and wund he drops dragon pods you can shoot it at him and 2 hits will stagger him oute of any attack (exept the scripted ones ).
Veteran hunter here, tips for breaking the head before phase 3, this requires feyline bombadier and heavy artillery lv2 as the start of phase 2 grab the binders on the right near where you took cover from the first nova, (This next step is easier with smoke bombs) Make sure his head is weakened before you do this and he's enraged, Use the binder on him and use the roaming ballista. Right after and unload the full clip into his face, If you were doing any damage to his head in first phase, this will most likely break his head, or do major damage to it, When you reach third phase run to the right and grab the second binder and use it on him, After all that His head should be very close to or at the second headbreak threshold. (For those of you who bring partbreaker, keep in mind that part breaker DOES NOT work for the second hedbreak)
Edit: If you're really struggling with staying alive and you're using things like feyline safegaurd or insurance, Then take those instead of bombadier. More lives is more important than a little bit more damage.
me with a LS eating every single attack instead of parrying "nah id win"
Having known that partbreaker don't work on 2nd head break, is it still worth it to equip that skill throughout the fight?
Iceborne Fatalis is a much better designed fight than Alatreon. There's a reason why I have over 50 solo kills and only 2 Alatreon kills.
My first kill with Alatreon made me hate the game, my first kill with Fatalis ended up with me cheering and hugging my dog who was nearby
Idk why I watch these videos. I'm already a very unskilled hunter, and recently just starting out my journey through World. And I gotta be honest with you, this does not fill me with confidence. It feels like those lieutenants in the army who dispatch you and tell you that you're going to die, and yell it at your face, smearing the spit on you and everything.
How's your journey going so far now?
@@thesteve1388 I got to the coral highlands, and managed to delete Legiana & Paolumu as soon as I got there. But haven't played since because my controller broke down.
@yoshida.azumi. dam I wish you luck on your journey when you pick it back up
Well technically the final boss was AT Velkhana 😅
You are correct in terms of release, Fatalis wrapped up the story of world which is why I refer to him as *final* :)
I like there are no perfect monster, each one have it flaw and fun point to fight, but fatalis with only 30m to fight (large health pool is fine, its hard is fine) and terrible ai for solo player is what i dislike, its the final boss, it shouldn't be rush.
No, its not the perfect boss fight vati vidia. But it is pretty dang good. His older version fights are pretty ruff too.
Haha I'll take that comparison as a compliment, I agree he's not perfect mechanic wise but in terms of feeling and atmosphere he has to be pretty close IMO
@ZennyHunter oh yeah bro you got a smooth voice. And a great sense of humor. You got a sub from me!
Much appreciated@@Lanewreck, i hope to improve moving forward and to make some bangers down the line!
I thought I'm watching souls game Vati Vidya😂😂😂
That's the best compliment I could ever ask for 😂👏
It is pretty difficult. So the answer is yes.
It would be nice if Fatalis had an AI program and learned your attack moves. 😂😂.
Fatalis isn’t the final boss, A.T Velkhana would slap Fatalis up with no problems.
I do actually think AT velky is harder in my experience. Fatalis wraps up the story of game in a grandeur way however where as AT velky feels like a fun challenge added to keep players busy
Show Proof!
Hey I know this is a VERY late reply but if you still care... at 8:35 you can when carving that this is the very first time obtaining those items (as marked by the info icon and description).
3:21 - not going for the head, but for the chest, what are you smoking? Go try another game, ...
Are you saying hes wrong? It literally does more damage which allows for a nockdown
@@Sadcatblake yes, start watching and copying people like Kiza, Aji, Deva, and Lani. You will notice a great difference.
I never responded to this comment all those months ago (being as its just negative and not much thought was put into it) but seeming as conversation has started up I might as well comment on it.
So the reason I wasnt hitting the head in that clip was to get footage of his blue flames to use for my talking points at 4:47 . So to that rude remark there's your explaination...
Secondly I just wanted to address that what you were watching was my first few times successfully beating Fatalis so I don't know what you would expect gameplay wise even with all that being said.
Hope that helps!
@ZennyHunter it is like a 18 yo, which haven't driven a car 4 months ago and just got his driver's license to make a drifting tutorial. One word, pathetic.
@@ZennyHunter ha ha, my comment instantly deleted, I strucked a nerve there, the truth hurts, I guess. But let me repeat it once again, so it gets through your no brain thick skull again. It is just like a 18 yo which 4 months ago drove a vehicle for a first time in his life, getting it's driver's license and making a drifting tutorial. Circus.
Fatalis fight is farrrrrr superior over Amatsu in MhR Sunbreak.
Bob
He isnt, only delusional fatalis fans think he is, alatreon curbstomps fatalis in every way shape or form as a monster and a final boss lore/gameplay wise
Not being funny Alatreon and AT Velk are by far harder than Fatty.
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Ah, Fatalis.
The monster that ruined the entirety or Iceborne.
Just to get a better understanding, would you mind breaking down a couple reasons you dislike him?
I plan to revisit Icebourne as a whole retrospective in the future so your opinion is for sure valuable to hear
@@ZennyHunter
-Powercreep Armor and weapons that destroyed the entire setbuilding that World had, making it way less replayable. The game kinda gets boring after Fatalis, because what do you do now? I guess you can fight AT Velkhana, but aside from that? Not really much. There's nothing really to do after Fatalis, cause you just craft his gear and win. There are only very specific circumstances where his armor is beaten out by AT Velkhana or Safi, but only in terms of damage. In terms or comfort, he is always the top choice, no matter what.
-Pretty bad hitboxes, which is inexcusable for the amount of damage he does. If he does loads of damage, I atleast expect to only take that damage when I actually get hit. This is especially a problem because he came right after Alatreon, a monster that everyone can agree to have the best hitboxes in the entire game, making Fatalis hitboxes show even more flaws.
-The 30 minute time limit is just artificial difficulty. It doesn't add anything to the hunt aside from making sure that only max optimised builds can clear him on a first hunt, which is even dumber when you realise that he is available at MR24, so a lot of people won't have optimised setups by that point or even good enough offensive focused decos. But that's more a problem with the deco system in World.
-He feels like a real afterthought in the story. He just shows up out of nowhere with zero explanation, which is kinda lazy. Safi was amazing story wise since he had ties back the Base World story, but Fatalis just exists for the sake of existing. Made me feel very much not invested in the whole "this is the arch enemy of all hunters" thing.
-He straight up punishes you for playing ranged. So, you know how you need to break his head in order to progress to phase 3 without the blue flames? Sounds simple enough, the game clearly wants you to focus on the head. That must mean it's clearly a weakpoint. Seems like that checks out, the untenderized hitzone for the head for blunt and cutting damage is both 75, so let's look at ranged.
The untenderized hitzone for ranged is 33.
This gets even worse when you find out that the tenderized hitzone is 44. And you know at which hitzone values weakness exploit starts to work?
45
This is just a straight up middlefinger to ranged players, making it so the head is such a low hitzone that you shouldn't even bother shooting at it. Oh well, I guess it's intentional game design for ranged players to get instantly killed by every single attack in phase 3.
Yeah, not very good design.
Lastly, some minor and more my personal problems:
-His flying animations look extremly unrealistic and honestly look like they just slapped the high res model on his MH1 flying animations. He even straight up floats without flapping his wings during his novas.
-His design is really boring. I get that's the point, but it still doesn't look very good, atleast in my opinion.
-He has a lot of pretty obnoxious fans and some elitists that defend everything about him, even the obviously bad design choices. Express your critique about him. 90% of the time, you will get "skill issue!" in return. Just makes expressing your own thoughts very needlessly frustrating.
Hope I could provide a good insight as to why I really, really don't like Fatalis.
@@Bones_MaIone Thank you for providing so much detail, I truly appreciate it.
I'm pretty sure Fatalis was released as a bonus that was never realy planned due to covid (might be wrong on that but that's what I remember), if anything I think Fatalis was meant to be send of to an already complete game which is why we have the stupidly good armour for example.
I agree that the fight itself has some bs hitboxes and random combos that ruin the fight which could have been ironed out for sure.
Maybe we'll see him back in Wilds with an improved fight!
@@Bones_MaIone Fatalis glazers need to read this comment
Malenia solo without summoning is harder
Its so easy to make a meta build in elden ring and shred everything
@@ENDSMITES Yeah right!
You didn't beat the game
Stop cheesing
Depending on build Malenia can be a joke, assuming you aren't over leveled/geared though you are for sure correct. It took me around 8 hours of trying for my first malenia kill
@@ZennyHunter If she is a joke then how is she always in the top 10 hardest video games bosses list?
Show me a single time where Fatalis is in one
@@brojakmate9872Please read responses before replying mate, this isnt the first time you've done this on my channel: "assuming you aren't over leveled/geared though you are for sure correct"
I'm saying in a "fair" fight yes she is one of the hardest of all time, harder than fatalis . However its so easy to run at her with blasphemous blade as one of many examples and just stun lock her untill she dies. There is a cheese speed run strat like that for fatalis but in general there's no "giga op build" to cruise through him