Stingers, Himars and Tanks: The Three Phases of Western Aid to Ukraine (So Far) | WSJ
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
- When Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, Western allies held strict red lines around the type of aid they’d provide. But as the war shifted, so did the type of aid.
The Wall Street Journal examines the policy u-turns of Ukraine’s allies to illustrate how the war has progressed over the last year.
Photo Illustration: Jessica Chou
0:00 Western countries aid to Ukraine has carefully ramped up
0:50 Why the West initially shipped weapons like Stinger missiles and M777 howitzers
2:40 How MLRS and Himars have helped Ukraine repel Russian forces
4:50 Can Western battle tanks like the Abrams and Leopard 2 further bolster Ukraine’s defenses?
5:45 Western military aid, however, isn't limitless
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"Stinger" is a specific weapon type, built by the US. "MANPADs" is the generic term for shoulder launched anti-air missiles (MAN-Portable-Air-Defence-Systems)
im 86 and leaking, i wear man pads
Ukraine aid donations are using BS accounting. For example, many countries are using the replacement cost of the sent hardware as the value of their aid. This is like me gifting my 10-year-old truck to my son, buying myself a brand new truck, and then declaring that I gifted a truck valued at my new purchase.
That's 100% correct. For example, the US is sending 50 Bradley fighting vehicles that were bought 30 years ago and were about to be decommissioned. They cost roughly 4 million each BACK THEN. But the media outlets are portraying it like "We're sending 120 million in Bradley IFV's!" When in reality, we're just giving old stuff we had lying around.
@@jimmyhyun8546so with the rise of inflation they should run around 8million each huh? Just because it’s sitting doesn’t mean it isn’t maintained.
@@atg2186 Inflation applies to NEW goods/services, not OLD ones. You've also ignored depreciation...
Stockpiles of old military equipment and ammunition don't become more expensive over time, they become cheaper, until eventually they're so out of date that they're almost worthless. Sending these should be a priority, but in some cases they will need replacing with modern equivalents.
Also, bear in mind that most of the weaponry sent so far was originally intended to be used in a defensive war against Russia, so it's actually being used for its intended purpose...
Yep. I think most of the funds from this aid are not reaching Ukraine. It just gets old stuff from military stockpiles, already paid for by the taxpayer.
And to be fair, for roughly plate name value of 5% of defense budget a year to beat Russia, this is actually a steal of a deal.
I wish more news outlets also put into perspective the Billions we are sending. We are absolutely spending a ton of money to send armarments, but we are paying US Manafuacturers for this armaments that we are sending. The money is staying in the US which is why we can spend more than the other countries.
People don't understand how much of a victory this is for the US. Decimating a strategic adversary for $47 Billion without losing a single soldier are numbers most countries can only dream of.
People always forget this. The naysayers and Z-cope crew always REEEEEE that this money is just going into Zelensky and "corrupt Ukrainian politicians" hands. Which is just absurd.
Most of the money is going to weapons/defense contractors in the US/EU, construction companies in UKR, Hospitals/doctors/rehab and front line triage, and non-profits that deliver cars/trucks/medical supplies to Ukraine's civilians and troops. I'm sure in that long list I even missed something...Oh Satellite companies, and Internet sec too.
People just can't fathom the reality that the country will need BILLIONS to rebuild, defend themselves, take back stolen land, and rehabilitate their people/soldiers.
@@k-aw-teksleepysageuni8181 SpaceX as well.
Not only that (which is a good point), but also a lot of what we have given are surplus or reserve material, when they say 50 billion, that's not what has actually been spent in the past year, that's the value of all the weapons and equipment that we've sent, much of which has already been paid off long ago.
Dont forget that per GDP, US ranks 12th in spending on Ukraine. We could be spending more. We have the budget
I remember the night Russia invaded. It was my mother’s birthday, the 24th. However in the US it started the 23rd around 11. The volatility sent everything crazy. BTC bolted. The FTSE and DAX fell. Gold rose almost 100 dollars. My prop firm stopped trading of the ruble and you could only close positions. By New York open indices stabilized, however, London open was insane. The air just felt so different in the world. It was definitely a day I will never forget.
Yeah and I bougth lukoil shares at a discount, just to find them worthless 72 hrs later 😹😹😹😹😹
@@nestorjose good!
@S N тогда почему все начали визжать только в прошлом году?))
DATA centres of Ukraine video plz ,i love wsj teams
what about the drones?
USA is sending 100s/1000s of smaller advanced drones to test them in Ukraine. Turkey used to send Bayraktars which were essential during the start of the war but disappeared afterwards. Ukraine produces multiple kinds of their own, smaller drones but not at sufficient scale. Also lots and lots of Dji/Autel consumer drones are imported by volunteers and used for recon, targeting artillery or to drop small munitions(which are too weak to cause noticeable damage to armored vehicles though).
Wow, I found this very interesting and informative. This is a great video to get a summary of what has happened thus far and which countries have provided aid to Ukraine. Seems like information on the war has died off recently but this was perfect to bring people up to speed if they are interested in the war.
They whitewash Germany and ignore UK, Poland, even France.
God bless this world 🙏
this is no god dude
say.. God please take away this putin like peopel
showing the wrong clip of the MLRS.
Brilliant report. Thank you
No approval needed from anyone in Congress or Senate once weapons are in question.
No sound
It's funny how US correspondence Ans news programs never mention the fact that the UK was actually the first country to offer any assistance, first with military assistance and medical too, then first to give anti tank and anti aircraft MANPADS, then also the first foreign leader to visit Ukraine as well as also being the first to commit ourselves to giving heavy armour as in tanks and armoured personnel carriers and MLS artillery. So why does every mini doc like this never mention any of those facts, always concentrating on what the US and Germany give?
Remember, the UK is the second largest contributor to the Ukrainians campaign against the old enemy.
himars and the grad simillar ? in what way , that they shoot multiple rockets then yea, everything else is uncomparreble, grad is just lets hope we hit something or atleast close to it would be ok , himarrs you fire it at your destination and you know it will hit it with in 2feet radius
its still the same tech man. nothing magical about himars.
@@operator9858 how is it the same tech ? one is a precision weapon , and one is clearly not
@@inguspodnieks5040 still just a basic rocket man. Only difference is the targeting and range.
SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦
law order and happiness can neve be taken for granted.
phase 4 is F-16 or A-10, phase 5 patriot missiles or thaad if needed.
A-10s would be completely useless in this conflict. The country is flooded with MANPADS, neither Russia or Ukraine have any air superiority even with a lot faster jets like SU-25. Now imagine a low and slow flying A-10, they would it be spammed with MANPADS from every direction imaginable. Small, readily available drones are way more effective on the modern battlefield. The A-10 is only seen in such a positive light, cause it literally only fought against a bunch of people in caves with AK-47s. The plane doesn't even have any targeting systems, the pilots literally have to use binoculars to spot the enemy. A-10s have the highest blue on blue kill ratio of any aircraft ever produced
@nexas2316 but plane go brrrrrrrrtttttt
These weapons will need to be more common for Ukraine to have
God bless to those countries that supports And Help Ukraine!!! Ur Such a Good Samaritan Countries that helps Support and defend Freedom, Democracy and Sovereignty of Ukraine, against Invaders Imperialists Landgrabbers Terrorists!!!!
You would think that especially the US spending between 700 to 900 Billion Dollars on their Military alone over decades now would lead to then having basically limitless supply.
That might be true, but you have to remember the cost of living in the US is relatively high, so the dollar doesn't go as far here as it would in another country.
It’s like the transnational military elite is stealing the money. Or something
wow, you would think those soldier didnt receive any payment and weapon has limitless expiration date and doesnt require maintenance.
R&D costs a ton and doesn't always lead to successful projects. It isn't simply manufacturing costs.
@@pindot787 Yeah but I thought the industrial military complex in the US being big enough to supply ammo at least as fast as it can be consumed.
Stinger missile check in 😅
Good Job. Good Reporting
Thanks for the report. However, I was forced to mark you a misleading media for showing the wrong map of Russia. Crimea is Ukraine
Man I was so depressed at the start of the invasion.
Now, I am more energized and determined to see through Ukraine's victory.
"thats why UK doesnt deliver long range systems" Well got a news article today saying UK will be delivering long range weapons...
Why does your map show Crimea as a russian territory? It's illigally annexed, just like the other regions of East-South Ukraine.
Well, if you look at it again, the illustration showed Crimea as "controlled by Russia"
The Javelin should be listed here. It's the biggest contributor to Russian losses.
Absolutely not, arty is the biggest contributor to losses by far, even back in February 2022
@@liamobrien9451 nah, the Jav was the absolute key those first months of the invasion. Obliterated half of all Russian armor.
@@Bear-ow9gy here's a direct quote from the "Preliminary lessons in conventional warfighting from Russia's invasion of Ukraine" report by RUSI:
"Despite the prominence of anti-tank guided weapons in the public narrative, Ukraine blunted Russia’s attempt to seize Kyiv using massed fires from two artillery brigades."
why Poland was omitted?
Germany sent nothing and show just shame
actually Poland was the first to announce tank coalition so get yout facts right before you release your 'news'
i like how distant us media talk about the war
how nice.let me ask who is gaining more from this war?
Quite incredible how it has been a steady increase in the engagement of NATO in the Russia, such that the "red lines" seem to be only temporary.
"THE" Russia?!?!, I think you just mean "Russia". Also, NATO troops are in neither Ukraine nor Russia. They are only supplying weaponry, just as Iran, Belarus and North Korea are also supplying to Russia.
There is no single square meter of historical Russia nowhere in Muscovy.
@@Aeronaut1975 using “the” as the user above did is common for Russians speaking English. They’re probably a Russian bot/loyalist trying to make the West dislike the war effort.
So there are only 3 phases to warmongering....who knew
So happy to see my tax payer money being spend on military contractors
Ну как корабль послали, и как президента России называли то это всех будет преследовать
A rocket launcher the best tool to stop speeders on are interstates, if not that use it for deer hunting
6:04 The numbers sound big but for context the USA spends around $35 billion a year on just pet food. The USA and its allies can keep supporting Ukraine for some time yet.
Better find some SPF 5,000,000 Sunblock - unless this war ends super quick
Joker face, eh ?
1:45 Crimea is a part of Ukraine. What's wrong with you, WSJ?
Abrams/leopard
T-90 : I'm in danger
T-80 : I'm in danger
no they are not
ПТРК "Корнет": tired of waiting. ;)
The arsenal is growing but the territory is shrinking!
Add another $2B today 2/24/23 mostly drones, which will make a big different clearing Russian trenches. I rather see more long range UAS then F16's, a F16 is easy to shoot down and cost Billions. If the Russian shoot one down that will be a big morale booster.
Not to mention all the money and logistics that go with maintenance for them
silly, the amount of training to put a ukrainian in that cockpit would take years.
@@Bear-ow9gy
And it won't be worth it either way.
Russia will blow them all with their massive SAM system installed.
We are waiting for the jets to be sent to Ukraine.
well seeing as that idea was shot down (pun intended) you might not want to hold your breath in anticipation lol
Why😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 ukrain😢😢😢😢
Arms industry stocks go brrrrrrr.
Without British NLAWS at the start, Ukraine would be Russian now.
I cringe seeing how they singled out Germany in the beginning of the video. The main sponsor of Russia, full of rotten traitors, nazis hiding in closets and rooting for Putin, denied the threat until the last day, sent only several thousands of *helmets* at first.
*True but Communism has a hatred for any group of people that love their Royals so perhaps King Charles had a voice behind the seen here. In Communism Royals are killed on the spot! Putin Is a KGB trained Communist that graduated from KGB school in 1991 as the USSR went belly up and bankrupt in an arms race Pres. Regan Started with them. It worked!*
@@johnslugger Putin has no ideology. NKVD/KGB never cared much about ideology really. As Russia is now ruled by KGB mafia, they will use any narrative that works, even if they contradict each other. Left, right, no matter. It is a mistake to see the whole Russia driven by any coherent ideology except maybe imperialism.
@@noop9k Your 100% right and I'll tell you why. Once Russia was bankrupt in 1991 and the pay checks and perks stopped coming where do you think the Russian Mafia Sprang from? ALL out of work KGB officers now freelancing for cash and spoils.
It's like gradually heating up the water a frog it is swimming in until it is killed without even noticing
that is horrible, and also a poor metaphor... what's in your mind...?
ahh good analogy....the boiling water hearing up is US debt and once it boils ...our economy is dead. Nice
Let's go Russia flatten everything
Western capability IS limitless, compared to Russia. EU + US have more than 5 times the population, with higher level of education and far more sophisticated production facilities, and those are just surface level advantages.
Only way Russia could ever actually resist in the long run is if China agreed to become its open sponsor with limitless contribution level. West can afford a war support at least 10 times higher than currently, continually for decades to come.
Russia has a much greater willingness to send her boys to slaughter than the west. That had been the Russian advantage for much of modern history.
China's stand is clear, stay neutral and no weapons to both sides, promote ceasefire and peace talk.
Let me remind you, US dept reached 31 trillions dollar. Interest alone approximately 900 billion/ year.
>Western capability IS limitless
West already depleted its ammunition stocks. Thank God after year of intense fighting someone starting to ramp up production.
Russia is a military powerhouse on it's own.
This isn't the full capacity of Russian military you are seeing.
Russia is still holding back a lot, especially it's airforce and missile arsenal.
Now the thing is that Russia has easily matched up the entire NATO all alone till now says it all.
If China truly jumps in then the Western world will become history.
You forgot Javelins.
All hail Saint Javelin 😇
look at numbers. they werent even sending enough stuff to replace loses at any of these intervals and werent sending any of the heavy equipment in any kind of quantities. meanwhile ukraine has already blown through 7 years worth of javelin production while russia has all these capabilities and more in what is now exponential quantity.
this war is already over. all these weapon packages are doing now is keeping it going.
the western allies wont run out of military equipment first, russia are sanctioned and their economy are tiny compared to the west, so lets see will run out of money first
GERMAN TALKS, POLAND DO¡!!!!!!!
God bless ukraine 🇺🇦🙏❤
Time is just not the only thing that's on Russias side God aswell!
Perhaps Ukraine should have kept a few of the nukes they had instead of giving them up.
its not nato vs warsaw its nato vs a single nation...... yet, if russian artillery starts to work even now the tilt of battle can change. It goes to show u the old saying ''artillery is the king of battle'' is so true even in this advance modern warfare. No can replace the king
can we just start WW3 and end this in a month?
WW3 will only last a day, with billions dead.
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the three phases for lose war ! go Russia until victory against those yankees
It's estimated 1 year to finish Russian Federation reserves.
heard that since day one pal. what are you going to say next? that russia is about to run out of ammo here soon too?
@@operator9858 just saying they should be running out of financial reserves if budget deficit is the same and will not get foreign debt. See the analysis with actual numbers on Joe Blogs channel on UA-cam.
@@Pifagorass you dont think the chinese would be willing to invest (or the indians, or many others)? they are dumping US debt bonds already...
@@operator9858 we'll see who wants to invest in shrinking economy and constrained movement of capital ... Once the regime is different and the market economy and sanctions are off, then we can check valuations. I'd not be willing to get the Russian Federation issued bonds as expected return is 0.
@@Pifagorass russia is typically the largest energy supplier in the world and has plenty of other natural resources. they have mir, they have brics, they have the sho, are connected to belt and road and on and on. our enemies have been building for their futures. whens the last time we have? and what do we still have left to even offer? star bucks and macdonalds?
Stand with Ukraine! God bless from 🇨🇦
Russia is taking it slow and slow
We should really drop the red lines. Innocents are dying each day the west drags its feet
and do what? rally up nato and the US military and invade russia? even if that didnt result in nuclear war we'd lose at this point. russia would see it coming thousands of miles away and can destory airbases and assembling units as they appear. and why do we care about ukraine again? why did we throw away our futures on this war again? this isnt like the others already...
Go ahead sned your kid over there. You fight Europes war for them
Biden doesn't have a clue where he is.
(2014 - 2021) .......14,000 CIVILIANS were murdered by U.S backed Ukrainian troops in DONBASS. 600 Were children!
That's why Russia stepped in to help the breakaway regions of Lugansk and Donetsk! They asked Russia for help!TRUTH!
Give Ukraine several dozen A10 Wart Hogs.
um...they might want to deal with the russian air defense systems first...just a thought lol
They don't have enough air superiority fighters to allow the warthogs to operate.
hurrr durr.... I play video games
Next - F16 then F35 and then a Fatman.
The secret about F16 was that it had nothing to do with the jet plane and the weapon systems. Sure they can send as many F16 they want but without the right equipment them may as well send propeller planes.
F-35 is smth not even all US allies can get and the Fatman is an atomic bomb that was already used and doesn't exist anymore.
But I get it, you're stroking fears about how supporting Ukraine will "force" Russia to escalate the war.
@@MrDK0010 Bruh...so much has been donated to Ukraine and all without any sort of accountability. Infact even questioning the type of weapons and associated cost is now considered blasphemy.
Who owns the stocks of defence companies...?
Ukraine aid is just a way to transfer public money into the pockets of politicians.
P.S. - I know Fatman doesn't exist anymore I used it because everyone knows what it represents.
There's a movie about gamblers, Molly's Game, "Harlan gets tilted after being bluffed by Bad Brad, resulting in him going on a massive losing streak and gambling all night, missing his wife's birthday party. Molly tries to convince him to cut his losses after he starts tilting, but he insists on recouping his winnings" Putler is like that player. At a high level, Ukraine war is a poker game between Russian billionaire and American centatrillionaire where each player raises the stakes. Except that Biden in Kyiv just raised the stakes with 700 tanks and things, the Russian billionaire mumbled and his cook squealed they're running out of ammunition and things.
And in reality, the 35 tanks already promised by Biden won‘t be delivered until 2024 according to Pentagon testimony to Congress last week
Biden has no clue where he is
Give sad face baldy cook more eggs.
700 tanks ? Really where did you get that info ?
Because they are getting 100 tanks or so
Ukraine is still loosing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Support for Ukraine is an investment worth every Pence.
Russia is the modern Rome or Romans. China is modern Persia or Persians. USA is the modern Muslims they ended the conquest of Rome and Persia.
Propagandists outlet
Ukraine will win.
Need long range drones to Ukraine so Ukraine military can stay safe but yet destroy the Russia enemy period so send the drones so Ukraine soldiers can stay safe !! Amen !!
All that money for ukraine but no reparations for African Americans 🤦♂️
Is that really what you think about while watching this?
Might want to go back to Africa and seek reparation from the tribes who attacked, captured, and sold prisoners as slaves to the westerner first bud.
Why ?
Kiev needs a new president with brain. Not a new weapon
All of this could have been avoided had the USA/NATO negotiated in good faith regarding Russian security concerns in December 2021. But hey, there's no profit without wars for the MIC.
Switch out USA/NATO for Russia and you'd be right.
Lol security concerns. Yeah right, that's why ruzzia invaded ukraine in 2014 and Pootin said himself, that is no ukranian nation.But keep up Troll.
Bro what nato never did anything ruzzia is just trying to make the Soviet Union to return which is obviously failing
Good faith?
Remember how Putin said over and over how he had no plans on invading Ukraine? Russia has been lying since the beginning.
@@badluck5647 nice lies dude
Military Industrial Complex doesn't want the war to end, so that also must be dealt with.
Ukraine lost thousands of tanks and IFVs. 200 more won't change anything. Zelenskyy strategy is reduced to rounding up civilians often at gunpoint and throwing them into a meat grinder. It's obvious that these hapless and desperate people can even turn their guns against Zelenskyy instead of dying for him. Anyway you can't rely on them to hold the front that is in a very precarious state almost everywhere. The war is lost by Ukraine. It's obvious for any unbiased observer. Unconditional surrender is the only way out for Ukraine. Hitler's Germany also refused to admit defeat until Hitler killed himself. Then Keitel signed unconditional surrender.
Sources on any of that nonsense??
@@rogerwilco5918 check out Oryx for open source intel of lost weapon systems: confirmed at least 1900 vehicles destroyed (though of those only 300 tanks destroyed, 200 captured, so 200 added to the battle will make a significant difference)
@@MrShikaga Check Oryx for Russian losses
@@MrDK0010 why? I already know them. Roger Wilco was asking for data on Joshua’s post, which only mentioned Ukrainian losses (read the first sentence), so that is what I provided a link to.
The only cannon fodder are the russian orcs.The soviets defeated Hitler with western help and now the ukranians will do it against Hitler 2.0 Putler.
Sarmat is coming... it's time to get serious, you Americans & Ukrainans !!!
Slava Ukraini
Lol, there won’t be a Russia left after.
Lol, if Sarmat really is coming, the entire planet will be destroyed. Do you honestly think that the US, UK and France are just going to sit idly by as Russia starts lobbing nukes about?!, and not retaliate with their own? No, I don't think so either...
Lol Russia would doom the world if they did that.
VIVAT RUSSIA !!!
WSJ helps ruzzian propaganda by designating occupied Crimea as ruzzian territory.
Crimeans voted to be part of Russia. So what do you want?
@@Michael-it6gb who told you that nonsense? Go to school, bot.