Patrick, one of the things I love most about this channel is the bass lines you write. I get so tired of watching demos where people play cheesy and generic riffs. Or they play the same riff over and over for 10 minutes in every single video. I really appreciate your attempts to inject some variety and interest into what you're playing. Lots of interesting note choices, rhythms, etc.
I just love how huge this bass somehow sounds, especially when the Beatles used one of these from time to time, it always sounded amazing and in the get back documentary it sounds even more huge
I've had mine for about 10 years now... I have no problem with the tuners, and all I had to do was switch my bridge 180° for it to intonate perfectly. I did shim my neck and raised up the bridge overall for a steeper break angle. For strings, I highly recommend the Kalium .106 set. I did not even have to modify my nut or tuners to accommodate these strings, and they really hold up as proper bass strings!
Additionally, my trem never throws me out of tune at all, and I attribute this to making sure the bridge posts are free floating in the body. They're meant to rock back and forth with the whammy bar, rather than the strings sliding through the bridge. My two cents lol
He uses extensively on the best album in history, Disintegration. Just listen to Pictures of you, that main riff is the most beautiful use of the Bass vi.
the second guitarist, reeves gabrels, brings it out during live shows on certain songs. so unfortunate that robert is signed to schecter, he had a great and unique guitar collection 💔
And that explains why growing up listening to them I would get confused as to whether I was hearing Simon play the bass or Robert play the guitar. Learning that Robert was playing a Bass IV explains everything! Fascinating.
Great review. I have one, and here are the mods I made: - Lollar Jaguar pickups - Mastery Industries bridge and vibrato - 250K CTS control pots with 0.047 uF Orange Drop -Switchcraft switches (I removed the bass cut and made it a treble cut-mid boost switch instead) -Axemasters compensated bone nut - LaBella flatwounds *Stock tuners work great w the Mastery Bridge, i.e. no intonation/tuning issues.
I found tuning stability improved A LOT with lubricating the saddles and nut with something like the Big Bends Nut Sauce. A new bridge will help more, but it's a cheap solution if for whatever reason you can't replace the bridge.
I have an Eastwood Baritone guitar. About a month after I bought it and started playing it - one night after practice one of my guitar cables got caught around the neck and tossed it hard off it's guitar stand and right onto a carpet floor. Right after that my precious Eastwood started developing tuning peg problems. Anyone know how to fix it?
I got one of these to do the Loathe thing a few months ago and I love it! It's certainly not perfect out of the box (the pickups are a bit microphonic, the trem is pretty much useless, and the tuners feel a bit iffy even though they are perfectly functional) and I've got a list of upgrades planned for it, but for ~$500 you really can't beat it!
@@matthewcurtiss7557 Indeed. I've been following a number of guitar luthiers on here who pretty much universally agree. If you're having intonation issues, the two best things you can do are: 1) a high-quality nut replacement (TUSQ or real bone) and 2) stretch your strings - a lot.
Great vid showing the versatility of this Bass VI. That piece you played at around 10:30 was killer, and totally sold me on needing to get one of these. Thanks for taking the time to post this.
Maybe you should consider checking out the Schecter Hellcat VI, also a bass VI style guitar with 3 stacked single coils + coil split for each pickup, also a 5-way pickup selector.
Ibanez makes a version like this as well. Has their classic sound gear body. I've always wanted to get my hands on one of them. They no longer produce the original, but they recently started production a multiscale src6ms. Pretty bad ass. Should review it bro
Its so cool to see im not the only one obsessed with these. As someone who plays both bass and guitar, ive never had so much fun. They have it in antigua now and i am scooping that up on friday. I haven't even tried it with a pick yet. If you use fingers be delicate with it. That took some getting used to. And the inlay work is spot on. It doesn't feel like a squire lol.
I got one of these last year as it finally went in stock and was able to get one and I love it! I’ve had no problems with the the tuners and staying in tune or the strings since I’ve had it and they sound great even now! I usually change strings immediately once I get a new bass, but these felt really good actually just from an out of box experience. Really glad a professional like you made this video though cause there aren’t that many or even people who know what this bass is!
This video was more informative than I'd expected. I have one of these basses that I bought because it was the first one I've ever seen. I definitely need to swap out the bridge, but you gave me some ideas that I'd never thought to do with the bass.
Young Bruce Springsteen played one of those early Fenders in late 1960's with normal guitar strings, without a clue what his pawnshop "guitar" actually was.
Mastery makes a drop in replacement bridge. I personally have had no problems with tuning or intonation. Your intonation will improve if you use the flatwounds since they always tend to Intonate easier. Personally, the sound of the Bass VI is made by flat-wound strings. If you want to Djent then look at Ibanez or Shecter.
I think the biggest issue with this bass is not having a hardtail bridge option, which would probably help with stability and tension, I had one years ago and sold it but have been wanting one again
I've got a SubZero Rogue VI that I didn't really vibe with until I swapped the tuners for some Tone Ninja baritone locking tuners. I also changed the tuning to an all-fifths tuning (FCGDAE) using a custom StringJoy set basically getting the range of an 8 string guitar. It became a whole other instrument after that and I'm having a lot of fun with it. I'm considering modding the tone pot to roll off bass frequencies because the pickups are kind of muddy and I plan to use it as a baritone guitar (got my Yamaha BB 5 string and Harley Benton B-650FL 6 string fretless for bass duties)
I've had one of these for a while I've never been able to comfortably play it as a bass, so I recently bought some baritone strings and slapped em on there Now it's my baritone guitar!
As much as you adore this thing, you should check out the Ibanez SRC6MS! It's a modern retake on the SRC6, their old answer to the Bass VI, already aimed at a more modern design, now with a 30-28" multiscale to lessen the tension on those high strings
Had mine for 24 hours. Before it arrived I saw a lot of comment on poor intonation, particularly on str 6, but the whole guitar is stable so far and intonation is good out of the box with plenty of travel left on all saddles. (I haven't fitted the whammy!) I understand this may be because Fender has changed the standard string gauges from .024 to .084 to .024 to .100, and I'm sure mine are the latter. I am though now waiting for delivery of La Bella flats, .026 to .095.
I've been curious to see what your opinion on Squier's Bass VI would be ever since I watched your review of Harley Benton's. So glad to see this pop up in my recommendations.
Thank you for the informative review. Found one for $310 at a pawnshop (this exact black model) but with its cons, I will have to pass. Your video saved me money and influenced my purchasing decision.
Squier is Coming out with a 6 String Affinity Jazz Bass Guitar and What do you think of a 6 String Jazz Bass??? I would never Play a 6 String Bass Guitar Awesome Video of the Squier Classic Vibe Bass 6 💯💯💯💯💯💯❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥💥💥💥
I have this same model, you are spot on on the tuners and bridge, I may have to order a replacement bridge next. Also thinking about taking off the finish on the body and doing a seafoam green paint job for a surfcaster vibe.
Big fun! I love the way John & George used to use the Fender VI and have often wondered about grabbing one of these. I am a guitarist but (of course) I have a Rickenbacker, Hofner 60's Re-Issue (use flatwounds on both) and an old Ibanez Fretless so I reckon one of these is now a necessity! Great demo, cheers!
This is basically a "project" guitar. You'd need to replace the tuners, nut, pickups, bridge, tremolo and electronics. The good news is that Staytrem is shipping outside the UK now. Don't get the Mastery bridge!
This is perfect for a Bass Guitarist that is also a Lead Guitarist the transition will be automatic. I found one for $420 online and want to get a set of Rottosound roundwounds for it
I am mainly a guitar player, who plays baseboards when recording. I didn’t even know about these things. Just came across them and caught your review, excellent job by the way, it makes total sense. Why haven’t these been made like this since the beginning? I will definitely be checking out more of your content. I appreciate it. Well done. have you tried the Harley Benton with the standard tail piece? Seems to me that would take care of some tuning issues and intonation hopefully.
What I would like to know is if there is any difference between the Classic Vibe version demonstrated here and the Vintage Modified version which I’ve got one of. They appear to be identical in their construction. However, something which a few owners of the Vintage Modified Bass Six mentioned that I have learned myself is that the output from the pickups could stand be increased. It hasn’t got the same outfit as most run-of-the-mill models. I should think that was one of the cons.
Hey, awesome video. I am about to purchase a bass vi and I'm wondering, if you had to do that much work to the Squire to get it ready to play, would you rather have gotten the Harley Benton? And if so, would you do anything to that to get it ready to play or was it n better shape out of the box? Yu mentioned you had tried both so I'm curious which you preferred. Thanks!
I've been considering getting one for some time, but leaning towards the Fender instead of the Squier. Do you think the standard tuners and bridge on the Fender model would have the same issues?
If you must have tubes you should get the Fender TR but I'd go solid state- Roland Jazz Chorus 120. I've owned a Fender DeVille and now I have the best Amp ever made. Roland JC 120
12:35 Gold 40th Anniversary ...p days? V days? Anyone mother tongue can help with it? Which model is he talking about? In general or he's talking about another model of Fender baritone? Thanks
Tbh? Both. The Bass VI was originally designed by Fender to make it even easier for guitar players to play bass, if memory serves. I think the Beatles even used em a time or two. But yeah, as Loathe has shown, any 6-string with a scale length longer than 29.5" can and absolutely will fuckin chug.
Born in 62
Have owned soooo many fenders
Squire is blowing away anything built in the 70s
Patrick, one of the things I love most about this channel is the bass lines you write. I get so tired of watching demos where people play cheesy and generic riffs. Or they play the same riff over and over for 10 minutes in every single video. I really appreciate your attempts to inject some variety and interest into what you're playing. Lots of interesting note choices, rhythms, etc.
I just love how huge this bass somehow sounds, especially when the Beatles used one of these from time to time, it always sounded amazing and in the get back documentary it sounds even more huge
Yea George Harrison had one, they used it on a bunch of songs., I think Helter Skelter is one of the songs
I believe Lennon plays it on 'the long and winding road'
@@cliffords2315yes, but John played Helter Skelter
Yeah these basses record so f*cking well.
@@aronschwarz236him and George used the same bass since they were more familiar with 6 strings.
oh yes, finally a demo that actually demonstrates the 'bass' aspect of this beast!
Fender updated the gauges of their Bass VI strings & now they're a 24-100 Gauge set.
I've had mine for about 10 years now...
I have no problem with the tuners, and all I had to do was switch my bridge 180° for it to intonate perfectly.
I did shim my neck and raised up the bridge overall for a steeper break angle.
For strings, I highly recommend the Kalium .106 set. I did not even have to modify my nut or tuners to accommodate these strings, and they really hold up as proper bass strings!
Additionally, my trem never throws me out of tune at all, and I attribute this to making sure the bridge posts are free floating in the body. They're meant to rock back and forth with the whammy bar, rather than the strings sliding through the bridge.
My two cents lol
I think Robert Smith played one (almost exclusively) during the early days of The Cure.
He uses extensively on the best album in history, Disintegration. Just listen to Pictures of you, that main riff is the most beautiful use of the Bass vi.
the second guitarist, reeves gabrels, brings it out during live shows on certain songs. so unfortunate that robert is signed to schecter, he had a great and unique guitar collection 💔
Here he uses one, the video is from 1982 ua-cam.com/video/De-zpSxRhgg/v-deo.html
He has his own Schecter signature which looks kinda ugly but I kinda want one.
And that explains why growing up listening to them I would get confused as to whether I was hearing Simon play the bass or Robert play the guitar. Learning that Robert was playing a Bass IV explains everything! Fascinating.
That opening jam kicks pretty hard. ☠️
It ABSOLUTELY kicks ass!! 🔥🔥
🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Great review. I have one, and here are the mods I made:
- Lollar Jaguar pickups
- Mastery Industries bridge and vibrato
- 250K CTS control pots with 0.047 uF Orange Drop
-Switchcraft switches (I removed the bass cut and made it a treble cut-mid boost switch instead)
-Axemasters compensated bone nut
- LaBella flatwounds
*Stock tuners work great w the Mastery Bridge, i.e. no intonation/tuning issues.
I found tuning stability improved A LOT with lubricating the saddles and nut with something like the Big Bends Nut Sauce. A new bridge will help more, but it's a cheap solution if for whatever reason you can't replace the bridge.
I have an Eastwood Baritone guitar. About a month after I bought it and started playing it - one night after practice one of my guitar cables got caught around the neck and tossed it hard off it's guitar stand and right onto a carpet floor. Right after that my precious Eastwood started developing tuning peg problems. Anyone know how to fix it?
Yep - definitely adding this to the collection at some point.
I got one of these to do the Loathe thing a few months ago and I love it! It's certainly not perfect out of the box (the pickups are a bit microphonic, the trem is pretty much useless, and the tuners feel a bit iffy even though they are perfectly functional) and I've got a list of upgrades planned for it, but for ~$500 you really can't beat it!
Whoa I just got one and yeah, first thing I noticed was how microphonic it is!
The view showing the pickups you have selected was GREAT!!! That’s why your channel is one of the best, Patrick.
This bass 6 is awesome! I wish they’d make a lefty version - that would be sick!
lefty guitarists and bassists look so freaking cool
Look for a Revelation Guitars RJT-60 B, they make them left handed too.
wow, I didn't even realize they don't do a left version of this. Sorry to hear that
The thing I always hated about it is that on the low and the high string it is really easy to just slip off the fret.
That's kind of the case with all Fender guitars
Might be worthwhile that if you buy one, buy an extra string tree and install it yourself. The extra tension across the nut will cinch that up.
@@rindred or better yet, make a new nut
@@matthewcurtiss7557 Indeed. I've been following a number of guitar luthiers on here who pretty much universally agree. If you're having intonation issues, the two best things you can do are: 1) a high-quality nut replacement (TUSQ or real bone) and 2) stretch your strings - a lot.
I'm going to assume that is with the stock strings, because it has never happened to me.
Great vid showing the versatility of this Bass VI. That piece you played at around 10:30 was killer, and totally sold me on needing to get one of these. Thanks for taking the time to post this.
Maybe you should consider checking out the Schecter Hellcat VI, also a bass VI style guitar with 3 stacked single coils + coil split for each pickup, also a 5-way pickup selector.
I use a baritone to scratch this itch, but these are neat. Also, bonus points for Suspiria shirt!
Ibanez makes a version like this as well. Has their classic sound gear body. I've always wanted to get my hands on one of them. They no longer produce the original, but they recently started production a multiscale src6ms. Pretty bad ass. Should review it bro
Its so cool to see im not the only one obsessed with these. As someone who plays both bass and guitar, ive never had so much fun. They have it in antigua now and i am scooping that up on friday. I haven't even tried it with a pick yet. If you use fingers be delicate with it. That took some getting used to. And the inlay work is spot on. It doesn't feel like a squire lol.
I got one of these last year as it finally went in stock and was able to get one and I love it! I’ve had no problems with the the tuners and staying in tune or the strings since I’ve had it and they sound great even now! I usually change strings immediately once I get a new bass, but these felt really good actually just from an out of box experience. Really glad a professional like you made this video though cause there aren’t that many or even people who know what this bass is!
Jack Bruce used a bass VI in the early days of cream before he got the EB-3. It always sounded huge.
This video was more informative than I'd expected. I have one of these basses that I bought because it was the first one I've ever seen. I definitely need to swap out the bridge, but you gave me some ideas that I'd never thought to do with the bass.
Bro that intro 💥 SLAPS 💥
The BEST BVI video on the entire . . . ever...
Young Bruce Springsteen played one of those early Fenders in late 1960's with normal guitar strings, without a clue what his pawnshop "guitar" actually was.
Fender should give you a free Bass V1. You made that thing sound amazing!!
Mastery makes a drop in replacement bridge. I personally have had no problems with tuning or intonation. Your intonation will improve if you use the flatwounds since they always tend to Intonate easier. Personally, the sound of the Bass VI is made by flat-wound strings. If you want to Djent then look at Ibanez or Shecter.
I think the biggest issue with this bass is not having a hardtail bridge option, which would probably help with stability and tension, I had one years ago and sold it but have been wanting one again
You could order a Hardtail tailpiece
I've got a SubZero Rogue VI that I didn't really vibe with until I swapped the tuners for some Tone Ninja baritone locking tuners. I also changed the tuning to an all-fifths tuning (FCGDAE) using a custom StringJoy set basically getting the range of an 8 string guitar. It became a whole other instrument after that and I'm having a lot of fun with it. I'm considering modding the tone pot to roll off bass frequencies because the pickups are kind of muddy and I plan to use it as a baritone guitar (got my Yamaha BB 5 string and Harley Benton B-650FL 6 string fretless for bass duties)
I've had one of these for a while
I've never been able to comfortably play it as a bass, so I recently bought some baritone strings and slapped em on there
Now it's my baritone guitar!
You nailed the Tik tac tone!
Thanks for an informative an well-pesented video.
Intro song was 🔥
As much as you adore this thing, you should check out the Ibanez SRC6MS! It's a modern retake on the SRC6, their old answer to the Bass VI, already aimed at a more modern design, now with a 30-28" multiscale to lessen the tension on those high strings
I want one badly.
That’s the instrument Royal Blood should be playing
I haven't played one yet -no money for one- but I have got to say the bass VI is an underrated instrument.
Love this bass. Played finger style its sweet. With a pick it drips spaghetti western. Chords, with distortion, are just noise.
11:51 sounds like Twin Peaks somewhat.
Cool shirt too!
Thank you! My main decision was Gotoh or Schaller. Should've known; gotos as always. 6 alembics!!! So 350 street + 200 mods+ wherewithall.
The guy’s guitar faces cracks me up 😂
yes I agree, labella flats, and then, I replaced tuners to gotoh vintage style tuners. Also a mastery M1 bridge
If you use them right fender vintage style tuner are the absolute best for tuning stability
I just need one of this 😎🖤🤘🏿
Had mine for 24 hours. Before it arrived I saw a lot of comment on poor intonation, particularly on str 6, but the whole guitar is stable so far and intonation is good out of the box with plenty of travel left on all saddles. (I haven't fitted the whammy!) I understand this may be because Fender has changed the standard string gauges from .024 to .084 to .024 to .100, and I'm sure mine are the latter. I am though now waiting for delivery of La Bella flats, .026 to .095.
Those Fender 24-100 strings are hard to get. Been looking everywhere
@@siegfriedhecker3473 La Bella are fine
Guess this is the bass i gotta get man, gonna be awhile before i can affordnit though
Love mine, but it's a hell to tune.
I hear the intonation issue can be solved by reversing the saddles, or changing string gauge.
I've been curious to see what your opinion on Squier's Bass VI would be ever since I watched your review of Harley Benton's. So glad to see this pop up in my recommendations.
Really hoping squier drops a stripped down more affordable version in their 2023 line up
Thank you for the informative review. Found one for $310 at a pawnshop (this exact black model) but with its cons, I will have to pass. Your video saved me money and influenced my purchasing decision.
I tend to think of it as a long scale baritone. That is how I would use it, not as a bass.
Awesome review.
I play mine in EAEAC#F# and it's my main instrument atm. Had to create a custom LaBella set.
Squier is Coming out with a 6 String Affinity Jazz Bass Guitar and What do you think of a 6 String Jazz Bass???
I would never Play a 6 String Bass Guitar
Awesome Video of the Squier Classic Vibe Bass 6
💯💯💯💯💯💯❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥💥💥💥
I have this same model, you are spot on on the tuners and bridge, I may have to order a replacement bridge next. Also thinking about taking off the finish on the body and doing a seafoam green paint job for a surfcaster vibe.
There is the Ibanez SCR6 and there are other brands that make a modern take on the Bass6. It would be interesting to see a comparison!
Sounds great! Went from guitar to bass years ago but...the string spacing would be a little problem for me to get used to again:)
Cheers for the video. Please do an after mod video cause I'm so keen!
Big fun! I love the way John & George used to use the Fender VI and have often wondered about grabbing one of these. I am a guitarist but (of course) I have a Rickenbacker, Hofner 60's Re-Issue (use flatwounds on both) and an old Ibanez Fretless so I reckon one of these is now a necessity! Great demo, cheers!
This is basically a "project" guitar. You'd need to replace the tuners, nut, pickups, bridge, tremolo and electronics. The good news is that Staytrem is shipping outside the UK now. Don't get the Mastery bridge!
I'm sure he said the stock nut was bone, already. I don't like the mastery bridge looks or price, but why don't you recommend it?
Great riffing dude. I have one and fun
This is perfect for a Bass Guitarist that is also a Lead Guitarist the transition will be automatic. I found one for $420 online
and want to get a set of Rottosound roundwounds for it
i wanna get one of these to use as a super low tuned baritone
How did you do that selected pickup view? Nice touch!!!
Can you play this with plucking technique or is this 100% more of a pick guitair
How did you get that distorted tone at the beginning? Pedals and such it sounds awsome and i want to have a bass vi right nkw because of it
6 string bass...6 string bass...SUSPIRIA t-shirt??? Very cool!!! Also, fine. So is the bass!
I am mainly a guitar player, who plays baseboards when recording. I didn’t even know about these things. Just came across them and caught your review, excellent job by the way, it makes total sense. Why haven’t these been made like this since the beginning? I will definitely be checking out more of your content. I appreciate it. Well done. have you tried the Harley Benton with the standard tail piece? Seems to me that would take care of some tuning issues and intonation hopefully.
Cool shirt.
Did you need to drill out the tuners for the strings to fit through?
No nod to Jack Bruce ?
That opening doom was 🔥❤
Sick!
SOLI DEO GLORIA
(To The Glory of God Alone)
Father, Son & Holy Spirit
-Ronnie
I know it doinks the tuning, but I still wanted to see some wiggle stick!
Great, I have a question about your strings that you use for this presentation. Because when you slide your fingers we don't hear noise
Alice In Chains Rotten Apple would sound amazing on this
Such a cool bass, guitar?
Geil 💥
What I would like to know is if there is any difference between the Classic Vibe version demonstrated here and the Vintage Modified version which I’ve got one of. They appear to be identical in their construction. However, something which a few owners of the Vintage Modified Bass Six mentioned that I have learned myself is that the output from the pickups could stand be increased. It hasn’t got the same outfit as most run-of-the-mill models. I should think that was one of the cons.
I have this, and when i got those yellow ernie balls, the thinnest string didnt was too short. I wonder if they changed them
Play the B and high E strings - challenge impossible
Tuned in D on some clips?...to me, it sounds more like a baritone with an extra low string minus the high string!!...
Please do the ibanez pleaseeee
What song is in the background of the Cons section?
Hey, awesome video. I am about to purchase a bass vi and I'm wondering, if you had to do that much work to the Squire to get it ready to play, would you rather have gotten the Harley Benton? And if so, would you do anything to that to get it ready to play or was it n better shape out of the box? Yu mentioned you had tried both so I'm curious which you preferred. Thanks!
I've been considering getting one for some time, but leaning towards the Fender instead of the Squier. Do you think the standard tuners and bridge on the Fender model would have the same issues?
Definitely not, the Vintera has all of the right hardware
Should I get a Fender Twin Reverb Deluxe or an Ampeg for it?
If you must have tubes you should get the Fender TR but I'd go solid state- Roland Jazz Chorus 120. I've owned a Fender DeVille and now I have the best Amp ever made. Roland JC 120
Loathe made me want this guitar. Do you know this band ? The song Two way mirror 😉🔥
Is it really YOUUUUUUUUUU?? 🦖
Almost
Intro song?
Are these flat strings?
I own one and one of my neck inlays popped out. I glues it back in, but are they going to keep popping out?
12:35 Gold 40th Anniversary ...p days? V days? Anyone mother tongue can help with it? Which model is he talking about? In general or he's talking about another model of Fender baritone? Thanks
So, did you ever receive the Staytrem bridge, if so, did it help?
It should do as it is wider than the standard mustang bridge.
King Gizz t-shirt spotted
Great review. What is the MODEL number of the Gotoh Vintage Tuners that you recommended?
Are the Gotoh tuners locking and for a Strat/Tele?
So, no Loathe?
I always thought having a bassist, guitarist, and VI play would be great. My idea is tuning it E-A-D-E-A-D
Nah, you're using it wrong. That there is a djent machine, lol.
Tbh? Both. The Bass VI was originally designed by Fender to make it even easier for guitar players to play bass, if memory serves. I think the Beatles even used em a time or two. But yeah, as Loathe has shown, any 6-string with a scale length longer than 29.5" can and absolutely will fuckin chug.