Really watching your video 👍👌 Even when yoy missed something it's OK self explanatory anyways. Can't waith to see the next video. Learn a lot from you. 🤫😷👏👏👏
On a r 18 forum one owner got a quote from a dealer of 750 for a valve inspection. They are solid lifters with about an hr labor. It is not rocket science. It appears bmw likes to bend you over and let you have it big time. All these outrages cost have turned me off to purchasing one.
That's ridiculous, the price that is. Look on the label though. It gives the spec on the oil right there. GL-5. Manufacturers give the spec in the manual usually as if it has to be a specific fluid, they will run into issues. At least that's my understanding of the Magnusson Moss Act, so they usually give an API rating oils have to meet. I would say document your maintenance if you do it yourself and save receipts, at least when it's under warranty. Maybe the extra cost is to discourage self-maintainers, IDK. If I had to use a specific oil on any vehicle, I wouldn't buy it.
We always recommend using what BMW says to use. YMMV of course, but it's always in our best interests to preserve our warranties and leave no doubts as to the quality of components, fluids or parts used in maintenance or repairs.
@@BMWMOAorg Understood, but from an engineering perspective, being tied to one brand and type of fluid doesn't make sense. If you're in the sticks and 300 miles or more from a BMW dealer, you might have to make due with something that meets specs, but isn't BMW. IDK. Considering BMW doesn't make their own oils and lubricants, I have to wonder. It's like a 200-300% markup from what it should be at the retail level. I really have to wonder about their business model.
Can't argue with you on that - but would like to remind that BMW's recommended service interval for the transmission is 24,000 miles, so that does spread out the cost of that oil over a long time.
Same time as the engine & final drive, during the break-in service, so about 600 miles/965 km. Note BMW does not require transmission oil change until the 24k service.
Qualquer bom lubrificante que atenda as especificações SAE 75W-90 de API GL-5 HD, de preferência semi-sintético ou sintético é plenamente compatível com as exigências de serviço recomendados pela fabricante. E é esse mesmo óleo que também pode ser usado na caixa de câmbio.
True - but I recommend using exactly the oil(s) specified by BMW while your motorcycle is under warranty. If there's a problem and you used any other oil, a warranty claim might be denied.
@@BMWMOAorg Elementar que queiram que use só o óleo que eles tem pra oferecer e até depois do período de garantia, mas se seguir especificação recomendada, depois do período de garantia para não contrariar as normas da garantia, não tem problema nenhum. Eu uso na minha GS1200 AC DOHC ano 2012 o lubrificante de caixa de marchas e de diferencial (é o mesmo lubrificante) seguindo as especificações do óleo e não da marca que eles recomendam e nunca tive problemas. Mas durante o período de garantia, sim, foram eles que fizeram as revisões, hoje não mais.
The important thing is to respect the exact specifications of the lubricants. The brand is not important, because they are only commercial agreements. And on top of that, BMW certainly doesn't produce lubricants, it just puts its own brand. I have always used MOTUL, which is certainly equally valid, if not even superior. And certainly it costs much less than the original one. Why give money to BMW for free..? 😉
Couldn't agree with you more, Lorenzo. Having said that, I was intent on using BMW-branded products because it was THEIR motorcycle, not mine. As a representative of the MOA and of the motorcycle press, I felt it was important to do for their bike what they would do. For my personal motorcycles, I use a mix of BMW and aftermarket products - I like to use BMW's filters, but like you I use MOTUL products, as well as Amsoil.
@@BMWMOAorg BMW filters? BMW doesn't make air/oil filters. They're made by other brands, with the BMW logo. And you've to pay more money for that logo only... 🤷🏼♂️ Maybe UFI, or HIFLO, I don't know, but not BMW, sure.
@@Sestorema BMW doesn't make tires, either, or alternator belts or chains or light bulbs or a hundred other things found on a motorcycle. You're not just "paying for the logo" you're paying for known quality and a much lower risk of damaging or destroying your engine because of dodgy filter construction from an off brand.
@@BMWMOAorg In 45 years of motorcycling, I have owned dozens of motorcycles, of many different brands. And I have always personally provided for their maintenance, always using quality oils, filters and spark plugs, but never branded. And I guarantee you that no motorcycle has ever given me reliability problems in nearly 700,000 kilometers of journeys in Europe and beyond. Then, of course, everyone is free to do what He prefear, with their own money. I prefer to spend it on travel and beer 😉👍
Thanks to make a video how to change a brake fluid on R18 🙏🙏🙏
I ordered the oil through Mopar 70W80 GL5 for $14 a quart. same specs as the BMW branded one.
Another good video by Max. I plan to do my own oil changes after the 1st one.
Really watching your video 👍👌
Even when yoy missed something it's OK self explanatory anyways.
Can't waith to see the next video.
Learn a lot from you. 🤫😷👏👏👏
Really liked watching your video
Thanks for telling us why and where the "beauty bottle" term and availability come from.
Any time!
On a r 18 forum one owner got a quote from a dealer of 750 for a valve inspection. They are solid lifters with about an hr labor. It is not rocket science. It appears bmw likes to bend you over and let you have it big time. All these outrages cost have turned me off to purchasing one.
My man uses torx bits in allen screws. Chuck Norris style
That's ridiculous, the price that is. Look on the label though. It gives the spec on the oil right there. GL-5. Manufacturers give the spec in the manual usually as if it has to be a specific fluid, they will run into issues. At least that's my understanding of the Magnusson Moss Act, so they usually give an API rating oils have to meet. I would say document your maintenance if you do it yourself and save receipts, at least when it's under warranty. Maybe the extra cost is to discourage self-maintainers, IDK. If I had to use a specific oil on any vehicle, I wouldn't buy it.
We always recommend using what BMW says to use. YMMV of course, but it's always in our best interests to preserve our warranties and leave no doubts as to the quality of components, fluids or parts used in maintenance or repairs.
@@BMWMOAorg Understood, but from an engineering perspective, being tied to one brand and type of fluid doesn't make sense. If you're in the sticks and 300 miles or more from a BMW dealer, you might have to make due with something that meets specs, but isn't BMW. IDK. Considering BMW doesn't make their own oils and lubricants, I have to wonder. It's like a 200-300% markup from what it should be at the retail level. I really have to wonder about their business model.
Can't argue with you on that - but would like to remind that BMW's recommended service interval for the transmission is 24,000 miles, so that does spread out the cost of that oil over a long time.
@@BMWMOAorg 24k isn't bad. I do mine more often. every other oil change. Same with FD.
Did you ever find a litle bit of black powder residue on you back week on you bmw r18 I find a litle on mine and clean it will see if come back thanks
No, but it might be dust from the brake pads as they wear.
It's odd that the manual doesn't tell you the amount of final drive fluid is needed, and if you capture what comes out from the factory, it's 250mL.
What are the torque values for both the fill and drain plugs, thanks
Cool
after how many kilometers did you change the oil in the transmission?
Same time as the engine & final drive, during the break-in service, so about 600 miles/965 km. Note BMW does not require transmission oil change until the 24k service.
Qualquer bom lubrificante que atenda as especificações SAE 75W-90 de API GL-5 HD, de preferência semi-sintético ou sintético é plenamente compatível com as exigências de serviço recomendados pela fabricante. E é esse mesmo óleo que também pode ser usado na caixa de câmbio.
True - but I recommend using exactly the oil(s) specified by BMW while your motorcycle is under warranty. If there's a problem and you used any other oil, a warranty claim might be denied.
@@BMWMOAorg Elementar que queiram que use só o óleo que eles tem pra oferecer e até depois do período de garantia, mas se seguir especificação recomendada, depois do período de garantia para não contrariar as normas da garantia, não tem problema nenhum. Eu uso na minha GS1200 AC DOHC ano 2012 o lubrificante de caixa de marchas e de diferencial (é o mesmo lubrificante) seguindo as especificações do óleo e não da marca que eles recomendam e nunca tive problemas. Mas durante o período de garantia, sim, foram eles que fizeram as revisões, hoje não mais.
The important thing is to respect the exact specifications of the lubricants. The brand is not important, because they are only commercial agreements. And on top of that, BMW certainly doesn't produce lubricants, it just puts its own brand. I have always used MOTUL, which is certainly equally valid, if not even superior. And certainly it costs much less than the original one. Why give money to BMW for free..? 😉
Couldn't agree with you more, Lorenzo. Having said that, I was intent on using BMW-branded products because it was THEIR motorcycle, not mine. As a representative of the MOA and of the motorcycle press, I felt it was important to do for their bike what they would do.
For my personal motorcycles, I use a mix of BMW and aftermarket products - I like to use BMW's filters, but like you I use MOTUL products, as well as Amsoil.
@@BMWMOAorg BMW filters? BMW doesn't make air/oil filters. They're made by other brands, with the BMW logo. And you've to pay more money for that logo only... 🤷🏼♂️
Maybe UFI, or HIFLO, I don't know, but not BMW, sure.
@@Sestorema BMW doesn't make tires, either, or alternator belts or chains or light bulbs or a hundred other things found on a motorcycle. You're not just "paying for the logo" you're paying for known quality and a much lower risk of damaging or destroying your engine because of dodgy filter construction from an off brand.
@@BMWMOAorg In 45 years of motorcycling, I have owned dozens of motorcycles, of many different brands. And I have always personally provided for their maintenance, always using quality oils, filters and spark plugs, but never branded. And I guarantee you that no motorcycle has ever given me reliability problems in nearly 700,000 kilometers of journeys in Europe and beyond. Then, of course, everyone is free to do what He prefear, with their own money. I prefer to spend it on travel and beer 😉👍
@@Sestorema Mahle or Mann.