Hidden Homeless - Edmonton's Invisible Crisis
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2018
- For every one homeless person on the street, there are three who are Hidden Homeless. The Hidden Homeless can be found couch surfing with family, friends and often strangers. They can also be found filling hospital beds, fleeing domestic violence in motel rooms, attending treatment programs or serving a jail sentence.
As more Indigenous people migrate to Edmonton, the pressure to house them increases. Today, there is an entire community of homeless people who are largely invisible to the public eye and government services.
Join one of Edmonton’s leading Aboriginal agencies, Native Counselling Services of Alberta, as they explore an issue rooted in Historic Trauma with multiple pathways in and few options out.
Was homless couch surfing in edmonton 2006-2009 by God s grace i survive.Gratefull for edmonton police r.c.mp,alberta university hosptal ,grey nuns hospital.Erb Jameson. Center and the Native Man who poor so much love signing king of broken hearts to me on one knee.And Bob Stewart (The Bob)that as been a Father to me.I pray for all who i have meet out there in those dark day and all who are still out there .Never give up.God Bless you all .Xoxoxo
Nice to have support in the community.
I absolutely agree with what she said about people not wanting to change. I was horrifically abused. I was put into foster parents that abused me. The change has to start with everyone. If u guys keep getting defensive the moment change is brought up nothing will change. I can give all I want to these people if they don't make the changes they need to the cycle will just keep repeating itself. I broke the cycle. Is it easy? Of course not.
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Yes it's alotta hard work to get to where u want to be but when u do get there u realize of all the hard work it took to.get there.
One day atta time
That racism pisses me off to NO end!! There were a couple of times I was out doing errands with a friend who was indigenous. Some of the people I was dealing with were so ignorant. They assumed my friend was there fir services. Without saying anything directly or being rude, I made it very clear that SHE was doing very well and doing ME a favour! There were were other instances where they'd treat her or the person I was with differently. I always made sure to talk to my friends loudly enough for them to hear, about their positive attributes, how I respect the way they're living their lives and thugs like that.
Canada needs to help its Citizens, including its indigenous. Money needs to be made available for health care, doctors, rehab programs, social supports and housing BEFORE anything else!
Thank you for making this video, was difficult to watch . Seen a lot of my self and others I care about in the same situation. This problem with homelessness can happen to anyone at anytime now these days . Just trying to keep a roof over one’s head takes up most of one’s income . I’m educated and I’ve worked all my life, but I do not see an easy fix to this problem till all forms of government help to adress these problems and take care of their own people before others .
Yes it does. The price for food is crazy. It's just gonna get worse nd worse
Being Cree from Saskatchewan I know what it's like out there in the prairies for a native it's hard. In Toronto they treat you like a King but in the prairies your just another Native.
R3ally eh.
Yeah it's bad
Was Homless in Edmonton & Calgary in 1991-1999 ...Now 20 years in the Same Job & it's my lifeline & Working Sucks But it is the Way out.
How did you survive the winters?
@@lylecosmopolite Slept in a tent or Stayed in Booth Center
@@JOSEPHCHARLESCOLIN2024
Winter nights in Calgary, sleeping in a tent????
@@lylecosmopolite yes
@@lylecosmopolite Yes
Excellent documentary !
I survived homeless and was deep into my addiction.
Dont Judge unless you been through it😊
Hi Desiree
I was homeless for 3yrs but I still managed to go work everyday. Saved up all my money checks I got for one yr. To see how much I'd make.
But you some people like being homeless guess cause they are used to it idk.
@@huggybearjohnson4197 I have a Friend I offered him to come stay with me and my family where he would live Rent free and I will be his boss at a Company with a good Starting wage.
He Just wanted to live on the Street and collect bottles said he likes it.
Sometimes I think about Going back because we just Work to keep alive in this Economy
I came from a place that people didn’t get much government support. We learn to be strong and independent! Once we enter into adulthood, we have to responsible for our own life (which included decisions making and behaviour). Help can be short time, then we have to stand up to help ourselves.
If we're going to be strong and independent, then the government needs to stop taxing us so much.
I dated a ingenious boy at the time he was 17 I was 15,he was in foster care, but his mom had a house on the reserve basically behind their house and would go there all the time. 15 years ago i heard he was in jail, introduced to crack and it ruined his life 😢
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glad to see you posting..... i know the bear paw symbol ...awsome..... more videos........ veiw from the street .....
Direct results of residential schools
Yup exactly
And they say
Anishinaabe folks are crazy
And you wonder why they are.
They made them that way. Like wtf u knw.
I knew Jackie from yrs ago,from the fellowship... I seen her once in a while in Millwoods town center I hope things are working out for you all now
was here jus after spring from up north, and helped a few homeless people on the west end near walmart and on stony plain
👏 Well done! 👏
This Happens To The Best Of US . I'm Talking From Experience . Sad For All People to go threw . We All Have Our Stories
I visted. Some reservations asuomption highlevel morley stonly sika clagary. Yuo have a place to live whyt come in to thee city life. Some resrevat on are very atractive for us white citzens did yuo miss behave
Yes our own people are homeless! Pretty sad when Trudeau let's all these immigrant people in canada and gives them money, homes .jobs ,time to start take care if our own,
they did the same for your ancestors, homelessness has always been here
Ikr. I said that too
Worried about other country when home base needs alotta help.
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It is NOT about the money. There's more than enough money. We fail or refuse to acknowledge (though clearly recognize) that everyone is subsumed in an entrenched system to dominate and oppress. Most of us people are where we are because we can never seem to get to where we were going. ("Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire
Get a mailing address at Boyle community street services. Every homeless person is entitled to $415 at AB works if they can provide a mailing address. They’ll also provide a waiver form for a walking license if you go with a plan and a mailing address. Start at Boyle.
any mailbox or friends address will do, stop promoting charities who live off the poor
It would be interesting to see how many people dealt with police interventions in this city prior to loosing home stability, ways to work and support networks....I have a suspecting this has happened to many and isn't one off bizzare recurring circumstance
Police just make things worse
I lived off 107ave and its getting worse every year. The apartment was a shithole mainstreet appts dont take care of their tenants. My place was broken into and they don't care about the homeless people breaking in to the buildings they steal anything thats not bolted down. Mail nd bikes especially. It's unreal how little amount of help there is. Newcomers to canada get hotel rooms. Its fukd.
4 years ago and look at 2023 ? So sad!
homelessness has been with mankind since it began, it isn't ending
Why am I watching this? We all know there is no cash in a cure. Everyone talks and talks and talks and nothing ever gets done or ever will get done or they’d work themselves out of a job.
I held a job for 10yrs discrimation towards Native Canadians is still alive and well, once white managers hate you no matter how hard you work, everyone agrees with those hateful managers Chinese, hindu, Russian, everyone is against NDNs in Canada
there is no solution homelessness has been part of mankind since it began, some will get out of it and some will not,
People need to go out and work. Not depend on government money. Because us that work are the one who pay. Not hard to find a job and get an apartment.
Yes that's what I tell my nephews, don't ever go to welfare that's a last resort after everything's else fails but it's only temporary not for ever.
Like some folks who abuse the system
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Bravo "we end up spending a heck of a lot more for apprehension and incarceration then if we just helped to begin with."
How do you eliminate homelessness stop people from becoming homeless in the first place. Because we have too many people becoming newly homeless and are already overwhelmed by the current numbers. Trying to deal with it after the fact is like trying to fight the tide. The only way is to stop the tide coming in by walling it off then, and only then, even if it's a drop at a time we can begin to eliminate the current numbers.
soliution???
@@lhl9010 it's starts with STOPPING PEOPLE FROM BECOMING HOMELESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. until you do that your fighting a losing battle trying to recover people out of homelessness after the fact. How so? More people are becoming homeless than we are able to help escape homelessness. So no matter what we have to stop the incoming tide first. That means finding out how people become homeless and working to prevent it from happening in the first place(if all you ever did was stop anyone from ever becoming newly homeless and never helped a currently homeless person the current homeless population would eventually disappear). Second, once the incoming tide of homelessness is seriously slowed do the opposite of what most of the world does. Go to the homeless and say "who are you", find those who you can help and do so ADAMANTLY. Get in for the long haul with them until they succeed. instead of standing on a proverbial mountain top looking down your nose going "most homeless people are x" THEY MADE THEY'RE BED THEY EARNED IT SO TOUGH LUCK DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. That automatic biased attitude AND WALL against all homeless "strangers" won't get anyone anywhere. Stands to reason you can't IGNORE OR BLAME PROBLEMS AND DO YOURSELF ANY GOOD NOR CAN YOU BEAT OR PUNISH THE HOMELESS TO MAKE THEM DISAPPEAR. THIS ONLY MAKES LIFE MORE MISERABLE IT WON'T MAKE THE HOMELESS SUDDENLY FALL OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH. Like it or not they exist so they must exist somewhere. going up to a crowd of any random strangers and saying here's your problem or you need x y and z AND YOU DESERVE X PUNISHMENT without getting to know who they are first will get the crowd to LAUGH AND SCOFF AT YOU. EXACTLY WHAT THE HOMELESS OFTEN DO. WHY? Because you're a random stranger just guessing and treating them all like scum or with one size fits all solutions. Say for example you offer the whole crowd marriage counseling. THE WHOLE CROWD is not even married, and you don't know who is unless you ask so automatically offering and demanding marriage counseling for all of them is a waste of time money and resources. Some might need just what you offer but of that whole crowd of strangers most will laugh and scoff(I need marriage counseling? BUT I'm single!). I mean imagine walking up to a crowd of strangers and saying you all need marriage counseling? Single? tough. Jump through my hoops or your an ungrateful POS and a user/abuser. See how it doesn't make sense? Yet that's exactly how most of the world is towards the homeless. Next step act accordingly towards each KNOWN HOMELESS PERSON. Find a workable solution to Coral all homeless people together but with serious security and separation. SECURITY AND SEPARATION IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. You can't expect to throw every one from rapists and thieves to drug addicts and alcoholics in with families and recovering addicts and alcoholics and think "what could possibly go wrong". Yet that's exactly what shelters tend to be like not to mention they're like moving back in with an overbearing control your entire life parent(and that very thing drives many people away from their real home hoping never to return). Add storage for belongings (people will have a much more difficult time getting along let alone ahead carrying a big backpack and sleeping bag around all the time, imagine an employer seeing that at an interview) and help RIGHT THERE on sight. IN OTHER WORDS GIVE THE HOMELESS NO EXCUSE TO AVOID SHELTERS BY MAKING THEM SAFE AND ACCEPTABLE. INSTEAD OF EXPECTING HOMELESS PEOPLE TO RUN A VIRTUAL MARATHON back and forth across town TO SEEK HELP, WHICH IN TURN OFTEN ENDS UP COSTING US FOR BUS FARE ETC, and makes it very difficult to seek help, MAKE HELP AVAILABLE RIGHT THERE AT THE SHELTER. THAT ELIMINATES THE DIFFICULTY AND EXCUSE OF IT BEING A REAL STRUGGLE TO SEEK OUT HELP.
Lastly, now that you "know who is who" in the homeless population start reacting differently towards those who want to do the right thing vs those who are problem children. In other words don't bust every homeless person's rump because they exist but neither let all homeless people get away with murder. If you let all homeless people get away with murder the problem children will just say cool now I can do it more. But if you harass all homeless people then for those who are trying to do the right thing you will only make it more difficult and miserable for them to succeed. Now you have went out and checked to see "who are you" you know who needs a good spanking so to speak and who needs a helping hand a hand up (not necessarily out) so act accordingly.
Who do you think is more likely to be able to help a homeless person?
Joe blow Walks up to me and says shelter or jail rehab etc
Or Sharron who is my friend. Sharron who I know as a friend and who knows I do or do not need rehab am or am not willing to work and am or am not crazy etc.
Not just indigenous people I'm white and severely abused by my biological mother and father.its just very sad!
Sorry to hear that sir
Hope all is good for u
@huggybearjohnson4197 it's ms. I'm the woman in the photo, and my life is still a struggle.
Wow when that woman said she wished she was white? I can't thank her enough for saying that. I've never had my eyes been opened that fast until she said that. Thank u so much for telling us your story. Never stop talking about these issues. You opened up my eyes so I'm sure u can open many others eyes.
At which time did she mention that. 🤔
What discourages me from helping the homeless population more is when some homeless people turn to criminal behavior, such as breaking store windows and damaging equipment. I think that I am not alone in my thinking and that people would look more favorably on this segment of the population if that kind of behaviour was stopped. I realize that being homeless is a terrible kind of life but getting angry and damaging public property will only damage your life, as well as the general public"s.
or those that are actually organized crime, groups begging and all living in nice apartments, etc
One cannot be homeless on the street in Edmonton or Calgary. Because brutal winter. Hence the Hidden alternatives.
@Josh Hale I cannot believe that you slept outdoor in minus 40F.
Like New York, City
The poor r often thrown out into the cold world, without a job, bk acct, or stable housing. They usually have kids out of wedlock, and have no education , little family, and become government dependent
No if i was housed this is really a true fact now for since really i was 19 i would want to be homeless again in 3 months max but i must end tenancy before IM NOT CAMPING but me and my dog are sad homeless not rich
Nowadays it's cheap to build a basic simple container or cabin shelter ,or tiny house, without electricity and water is totally fine. At least it's safe and a place to call home. Why can't you allow people to have these simple cabins to call home, why leave them sleep on the street or in the shelter that full of violence and drugs? Cold is not the only threat, the violence, the drugs, ... are all what homeless have to face as well. It's cheap to make a basic shelter out of plastic,steel or wood for people to call home and stay safe. Canada is cold, but Canada don't have to be cold hearted! Canada has vast land, enough to allow simple cabins for anyone who needs one to call home. It's not expensive to make a shelter these days.
I remember reading that the First World War was fought and won by Kitchener's, 'Army of the Rear.;' A hell of a way to gain the respect and adulation of the people with money and politicians in their pockets.
OMG. I feel embarrassed sometimes to be a Canadian. Because of how our government (not the people) has and is still today treating the ORIGINAL people of this land we call Canada. When the shit hits the fan who do you think will be most equipped to survive??? These ORIGINAL folks have been here in these vast lands of Canada for THOUSANDS of years.
Or as white people we try to act like we are so nice. We only acted like we were so nice since about 1900. We didn’t conquer the world By being nice.
kanata of turtle island !
You think the government treats white citizens of this country any better? You're used as a tax base to fuel the political whim of the day.
get informed this isn't disney and the people of Canada will all be the same equipped, just because someones ancestors did something doesn't mean that their descendants are equipped to deal with the same.
@@fabyunproductionz9506 doesn't apply to the entire country
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How can one sleep rough during Edmonton's long and very brutal winter?
There is work out there for anyone that wants work and for those that don't, move on Edmonton isn't for you.
Yeah, but sometimes you’re really wrong on that. I’ve been raised by a lawyer and a shrink and the best cases of all that kind of things I dealt with alcohol and drugs throughout my entire life and for you even be able to say that because that’s why I am, but yes, I have gotten sober. I’ve dealt with most of my Demons and yeah, but been able to get an open door if that makes sense. It was personally because of my friends not because of my parents. My parents raised me right from day one but I abuse that to the final door I was responsible myself when I was around the age of 30 and just went holy shit there’s some live for you and for mostpeople they will figure that out at the 25 to 30 year old age me from wrong, but it was way too easy growing up in a cushy house until I realized where I needed to be in society and my parents hearts
Jobs are there it’s just figuring out an edge zone into being able to figure out how to manipulate yourself into be able to make that happen. I’m just saying that’s my story and I’ve done quite fine. Well abusing everything of my parents everything and my siblings so I just find this wrong situation except people that don’t really wanna Continue. My name is Jake Chapman in Edmonton Alberta, so please do give me a call.
Interesting, they have a name for everything now...but half my life, looking back, i was hidden homeless, i knew it but i guess i was in denial...or so messed up i couldnt figure that out.
And something else is funny too, i walked those same tracks the people in this documentary are walking, only it was 40 years ago , hmm
wtf. seriously? seems to me that welfare does not always help the ones who really need help.
its not fair.
ive been homeless a few times, there needs to be more resources that actually help.
Not everyone is probably eligible for welfare. I lost my job due to COVID and the Gov refused me to provide with a welfare until I found any job.
@@jeanm5389 so experienced what is needed
@@wenzeldiesel1491 had to be a reason, employment insurance?
Its day 122 homeless with dog on christmas i wouldent want anything else get back thats exactly 1 third oh god ty wow its exactly 1 third if a year on chritmas ty i got dog on 23rd august and took him home 3 sleeps to get kicked out i wanted them to kick me out ...cause otherwise thats ...not wven a question whos helping me i have paranoid energy i speak to myself no loud im not allowed to spend more than 4 secs without speaking to myself out wood ..a drink cough snneeze laugh is 4 secs you think im gunna liaten to you spk get back no seriously if i went bank and shopping and rang ambulance and spent 2 hours on bus its impossible i could ever spend more than 5 secs in silence more than 2 times really the bus i am not allowed to spend more than 5 secs with out speaking to myself ..your om drugs im not i cant sleep morr than 3 hours i dont need too soon i will tho ive been dropping sweets on floor then eating them thats a fling ..but rrm speaking to yourself as a way of never takeing a step in silence is MUCH BETTER THAN speaking to everyone you possibly can who you pass i will get attaxked 1 time aday mininum then my guide dog i cannit spk to ppl for some reason the pull bark
If governments have better rental laws protecting landlords, there will be more homes to rent. But rental laws protect tenants and that is why a lot of people avoid becoming landlords!!!
Rental laws in Alberta favor landlords, by far.
@@marcusleja7133 no they don't that is not why the laws were set up, they were specifically set up for tenants.
Not in Alberta, they sure don't. The landlord can functionally set the rent at whatever they want when lease periods have expired.
Its just i truely dont understand i still like to be homeless ever since lockdown 2 i had one propety for 4 months rest less than 3 but see i was no where near my home 10 months befire lockdown 1 i had 400 pound devt on electric 30 p aday where i was never there and lockdown 1 i couldent undwrstand but no last 4 propetys i ended to be homeless on purpyse in a row but see theres many more..but i dont have any one why i might as well be here i feel annoyed you have friends so i dont so whats the problem then there on drugs i dont even smoke
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All ethnicities, have issues with homelessness!!!! The lack of support, for people in domestic violence, coming out of prison, addiction issues, and mental health issues, are just few of the reasons, for ending up homeless. And like I said, their is little, or no support, for those close to homeless, or being homeless. Often ending up without a place to live, it can very much lead to mental illness, breakdowns, and serious addiction. Once you are at that point, then it is really hard to get back. So give it a rest, it is not limited to one ethnicity! In fact, single white males, have an extremely hard time, finding places to rent. There is a lot of aboriginal programs, that are not even available, to single males! It should not be broken down to ethnicity, or race, it should be broken down, to being a Canadian!!!!
My first few years in Edmonton was the same .. was a hard go and throw addictions in there and its a struggle .. but what other coping mechanisms are there when living in a country that wants natives dead or “indoctrinated”
that is in your head see someone, there is lots of help
Bunch of cry babies on here. Getting a hotel and mental health treatment from the government - is a pretty good gig.
Try seeing what happens to homeless people in my part of the world lol. Don't use drugs. " times are tough I need drugs to cope/escape!"
Ya, don't use drugs.
Yo dude. Go try a hit of METH
Once let us know how things are going after that.
Shouldn't talk the talk when u don't know a people.of what they been through ya ignorant fool. 😮😠🖕
Women seem to be more at risk for homeless
The only thing that got me off edmontons streets was two suicide attempts back to back. It’s a broken society hidden by a blanket of multicultural acceptance. We accept everyone else’s culture but our culture the culture they so desperately tried to eliminate.
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no one tried to eliminate culture, everyone has lost their culture. everyone but orphans went home from school in the summer that is where people got back to the culture or chose not too.
INDIANS ARE FREE .
stop complaining.
At least you're not disabled
Yes City of Edmonton can't help the homeless because the city is spending billions on an LRT that few people use.
what do you want? homelessness has always been here
@@lhl9010 Your so right! Please provide ur address so We can send homeless folks
This is exactly why we need UBI Universal Basic Income in Canada. Two homeless individuals could double up, rent an apartment and support each other. Let's insist on UBI at election time!
Theres welfare that can do that now...but the problem one is unaffordablity , two , racism and bias keep people from achieving housing.
But yea u are right something needs to be done
How do you know this won't drive up inflation? This solution won't work without rent controls to ensure the UBI recipients can rent the housing.
@@marcusleja7133 Yes, Marcus, Alberta should have rent controls so that UBI is a viable solution. You know, the CEO of Foster Parents (Plan Canada) receives 350K a year 'salary' - the money could be instead poured directly into UBI for those who need it.
it has destroyed and bankrupted those who tried it doesn't work get informed.
@@marcusleja7133 it has been tried in australia and south america and just about destroyed the areas that tried it, only uninformed people keep pushing this,
In Vancouver and surrey BC majority homeless are white People. I think migrants and new Canadians Get the most help in Canada. Maybe we should help our own Canadians before helping the world
Julia Mcnamara you do know that your opinion is the same as every other person who believes that another race gets more help than any other?? The native people should be helped first because their land was taken from them!! Also most people in your country are or were migrants at some point so stop your bigotry it’s highly unattractive and downright stupid!!
@@shamhassanally7956 It is you who is a racist! How about treating everyone the same and stop playing victim?
Okay, so have they(“the TRUE” Canadians) ever considered getting off their bums and finding a job. Rather than relying on taxpayers.
@@MrAsingh1989 Many jobs are discriminating , some just have Hindus ,other just hire Philippinos, it's even hard for white people to find jobs in big cities since they've become the minoritys
our own???
Does any really know what homeless means? It truly means that a persons behaviour removes them from one of many potential homes they have to make a home in from family, friends and for that reason they are homeless. A homeless person usually looses about a dozen potential homes they could stay at, but they aren’t able to do what they do and what they do they usually don’t have a choice because of their addictions.
We will end homelessness when we give them a place and let them do what they want in that place like drink and drug use, of course behind our backs, but not without us watching and not hand out blame.
They do what they do wether their homeless or not and do it on the street because we let them.
I’m not worried about immigrants, but I am worried about the homeless people doing what they do on the street.
Not all homeless people are drug addicts or alcoholics, many lose their jobs or housing is full due to immigration, anyone can become homeless every hour and every day , get over yourself
so give them a place to carry on their addiction while destroying the rental?
To succumb to being an eternal victim prevents you from changing your perspective and start winning.
Stop being a victim!!!
The eternal bully exist too, many White Canadians believe they're the only ones that count in Canada, now new immigrants have that same mentality that this is their country and no one else belongs here but them, lack of compassion is Canadians problem
Never a victim, always survivors , we're still here and ready for whatever B.S immigrants throw at us next in the name of greed
@@djmarz9932 same thing still playing the victim card,
Still playing the ignorant game, go fix your ancestors country and quit destroying First Nations Land
I am native these r bush Indians
So am I and educated. Therefore know not to demean others. Doing so only proves what a savage you are
You're probably the chiefs kid eh? Nepotism is a great part of what's wrong on reserves