I went undercover as an electric bike food delivery worker!
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Door Dash and Uber Eats should just pay the delivery staff a fair wage.
There's the psychology of it though. Because the US is so spread out and the typical order is probably 20 min plus 10 min of waiting/transit to the next, you're probably looking at $7.5-10 for delivery. Charging $3.5 and then hoping most people tip $5 and letting Dashers pass on these low paying orders to incentivize customers to top themselves (what he should have done probs) makes customers more like to complete the order, I'm guessing, based on their extensive data analysis because at least they get positive vibes from the tip.
In denser metros, I think you could probably get away with just paying people fairly and they should. But then they'd probably be employees because they'd need to limit the number and tell them where to go and schedule shifts and neither of these companies want to pay for people to be employees.
Because they're independent contractors, they're free to work for other delivery services, too. And given most use their cars, they'll also do ride share.
An Uber driver will also drive for Lyft, do GrubHub, Door dash, Uber eats, etc. The gig economy is something you gotta hustle for.
In California all the gig apps offer 19/ hour plus milage compensation for active time if you dont meet quota per hour.
Example if you made 12 dollar actively working one hour you would get compensated from prop 22
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They call that a loophole.
They should not be classified as "Independent Contractors" when they treat them as "Employees" instead of Independent Contractors.
What is the fair wage? Anybody working there has already agreed to do it for the wage they’re getting. They know what they’re getting when I walk into it. They also know what they’re getting as they go along their day. If they don’t like it, go to work somewhere else. If their skills say they can, then they can.
I’m happy you did this to show Customers and and the Delivery Companies. How hard it is to do the Deliveries By Bike. Also why they should Shear some More of the Profits, and Pay Delivery workers a Livable Hourly Wage.
Or…Ooooorrrr…delivery workers can get a better job
@@VEGITAS4 lol or just be better at one of the easiest jobs ever this video is a prime example of the average delivery driver stats prove it the average hours worked by doordash drivers is 4 hours... PER WEEK and the average full time delivery driver puts almost no effort into it
I've been doing deliveries on my ebike for a few years now in the UK and I must say knowledge of the city helps a lot. The busy areas and restaurants, topography and layouts of streets and buildings, shortcuts, traffic patterns, even wind direction!. It all helps to become more efficient in the job and maximize earnings. Although in the UK none of the companies I work want you to do the actual shopping lol. It was great to see your experience Micah
Bike-dasher videos are oddly satisfying to watch, but man is the job tough. I was a Dasher myself some years ago when it was just beginning to take off, you quickly learn that many deliveries are not as straightforward as you think and there will be highs to balance out the lows.
Thanks for working so hard to give us an idea how hard Door Dash is to do!
Looks like such a tough job. Imagine this, in cold and rainy weather
It's not so bad as long as you have the mindset and right gear which can get expensive however. The worst thing is the wind. On Monday we had 50mph gusts in my city so I stayed in and didn't bother working. Not worth the risk. The gusts can come from any direction without warning, catch your big delivery bag and throw you into the curb or even oncoming traffic!
@manoz6194 ive had to fully waterproof my bike and all attached devices including the custom-built charging control panel. That and waterproof socks, pants, jacket, and helmet visor. The most interedtung challenge was the waterproof phone holder. I needed a way to be able to charge the phone in the rain AND a waterproof means of connecting and disconnecting the phone to the charging cable. My solution: mount a wireless power receiver on the outside of the waterproof phone holder with the cable going inside to the phone (with the insertion hole sealed afterwards, and the power source connected to a wireless power transmitter, everything fully sealed airtight. When I mount the waterproof phone case to the handlebar, charging would start automatically (if enabled on the waterproof charging control panel)
For cold weather I use handlebar mitts and levels 1-3 of the military ecwcs (extended cold weather clothing system) and a USB powered heated vest wired to a 50ah power bank. The helmet visor also keeps my face from freezing off by the wind when I ride. I also 3d printed a circular barrier that has holes for the handlebar and cables (such as the hydraulic brake lines and the various thumb-activated devices) to close the gaps between the handlebar and cables that enter the hole in the mitts opposite of where the hands go.
@@denissavgir2881 My phone's already waterproof but just put some sticky tack in the charger port to stop water getting in. As for charging I do that when I go home on my break, a 30 minute charge with a fast charger will last me the whole day. It helps to know the city, that way you don't have to have the screen on all the time displaying navigation. It doesn't get cold enough here in the UK to warrant "heated" gear. The hardest part to keep warm are the hands so just wear ski gloves. Can't be dealing with handlebar mitts lol
@@manoz6194 ski gloves are very uncomfortable and not dexterous enough. Gotta be able to pick up a coin from the floor or the gloves arent dexterous enough. The handlebar mitts are alot more convenient
The most amazing part of this video is that your e bike was not stolen while you left it outside, even locked.
It's always great to see you in another Ebike School video Micah!
I'm quite shocked how bad this business is, that's quite disappointing.
Hey there, thank you for doing this video. I do this full time and I was just saying the other day that I don't think the general public understand that how food delivery works and that it is pretty stressful
For someone that will never do this. It was fun to watch you 😊
Getting tired of creating content and looking for a new career? 🤣 This was a really good episode. I've never ordered from these services, but I'll remember to tip well if I'm with someone who does. Work looks hard for so little return.
Glad you liked it... I tried to mix it up a bit
I think it is awesome that you and your sponsors do this for people in need like myself. Not everyone can get around for various reasons... May it be money, or other reasons, I love seeing the fact people are being helped by this.
Thank you,
Andre
I was 19 doing doordash an postmates on a pedal bike for a year an yes it wasn’t profitable but for a teen it was more than I had in my pocket which was $0😂
It's an honest day's work, good for you!
I feel so heard by this video. It’s super hard to work this job. And tip makes a big difference to make a living!
Nicely produced video of multiple important topics ( delivery tipping, e-bikes for commerce, preparation etc.). I’d love to see something like this where I live in Western Massachusetts and how well or badly it would go in the winter! I can think of a million challenges from snowy roads to the rural nature of where I live to shortened battery life. If you want to try some winter e-bike things, come on up here.
I do Uber eats in the Amherst area on my bike. I'm ordering a Aniioki Aq177.
@@kurtismckemmie4850 I had to look up that bike… 100 mile range on throttle only! Wow!
this format of your videos is refreshing. Keep it up!
Thanks to Lectric and tips for making your day profitable. Look forward to more of these styled videos!
Great idea for a video, thanks for going undercover! I would not have thought of using a folding bike for this job, but it seemed to work fine.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm a 68 year old marine vet that fully retired this year and i have back and leg problem's. that small wheeled electric bike would be purfect for me to get to my Dr's appointment's, plus daily excersize for my leg's! It would truley be a blessing to have it!!! Thank you for your knowledgeable and helpfull vtdeo's!!!
I always tip - usually excessively in that I double tip - once at time of purchase as an incentive, and cash on delivery as a reward.
I consider it a revolutionary act that takes power from corporations, as well as a luxury service that must be compensated accordingly.
It also is a way of rewarding those service people who have the required skills.
Relying exclusively on the app directions is not a great strategy.
Drivers should have either a smartphone with a map app or a dedicated GPS unit.
And some knowledge of the area. Spend a free day riding/driving your intended service area.
If it's a downtown area, there should be no map/gps involvement - you should know the street grid thoroughly.
They also need to have an efficient way of getting the items into and out of a secure transport box.
Nothing fancy - just cobble something together with dividers or elastic bands so you can plop just about anything in it and know that it's not going to get knocked around.
The only time someone doesn't get the 2nd cash tip is if they take a ridiculously long time, or my order has obvious damage.
If the order is from a food place that got it wrong, that's not the driver's fault.
He's back! Hope everything went well! Can't wait for the next giveaway!
Dude this was such a fascinating video! Please do this more
Amazing episode👍
Better luck for more short orders next time)!
This was a great video ! I really like how you presented Door Dash and the Lectric bike. Camera work was executed perfectly . Nice job!
In my area, if you leave your Lectric ebike outside (locked) so you can walk inside a mall to buy anything, once you're back, your bike is gone.
Thank you for sharing the video on how door dash works. It was helpful in understanding the job.
Great video. Also a good insight in the delivery business, and what you can manage with an e-bike :)
Great to see your safe and well. When the trouble started in Isreal I was immediately concerned you may have got caught up in it.
this is really fascinating. you did a good job
thanks for the info!!! very nice to know how that service work.!!
I suggest you might try downtown or the local business district if different than downtown between 11 am and 2 pm. If the first day the area you tried didn't work out try a different part of time. Also different areas are busy at different times of day.
Great concept video and demo of the Lectric ebike. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed the video! Took a lot more work than I thought... both the working and the editing afterwards!
Good to see a new video!
Seems like, you dove right into the deep end with the location of Miami. Lol literally trial by fire. Miami is not an easy place to drive much less do orders lol GGs
I heard your Next undercover delivery video will be done on EUC (electric unicycle), that's awesome!! 👍😉
I work the gig economy too. Traffic can be a bitch and definitely see advantages of a bike. But where I live in conjunction to the restaurants and the travel distances I’d be out of both batteries before my shift ended. Best to stay in a downtown area on a bike otherwise it’s still the minivan
Great job, you have taught and showed how difficult people earn hard money
Awesome! Great video!
What a cool viseo hadw giving everyonw an idea how door dash works on an Ebike. Thanks for sharing your experience too.
Interesting and informative video. TY!
A friend of mine did that for a short while and figured out he was only making about $12 a day, not an hour, a DAY!!! If your plan is to make a bunch of money Dashing and quitting your day job, think again. Not many people, if any, are going to tip you extra for doing it on a bike, most will just think you're stupid or don't have a car, so forget that idea.
Great video, at least you had fun riding.stay safe
My e-bikes keep dying and right now I am too broke to fix it because Door Dash keeps changing earning/pay structure. Worcester Massachusetts is an area that is very brutal on ebikes. Roads have massive holes and potholes, one of my hubs got trashed due to the axle bending. On another ebike, the controller fried out. Even when I pedaled the bike, the controller fired and it's been a nightmare communication with the support reps for that ebike. Everyone has expenses doing these gig apps and when you're out of commission due to failures, you can't work anymore. Been a great couple of weeks.... But yeah I am happy to see that you did this. Shows people that, yeah it's picking up food and dropping it off, there are headaches involved that slow down the pace.
That's a great video showcase for the usefulness of an electric bike.
Great choice of demonstrating that lectric 3.0 for delivery and wish you delivered doordash to me😂 you deserve a huge tip and a hug
Love this type of content! Lectric is such a cool company
They rock!
I might get one of these, this will be perfect to get to work 👌🏽
I love the undercover, you get the feel of the actual food delivery experience. It can be done by eBikes, it will be the future!
I already got an e-bike and I need to get a certain amount of exercise anyway.
This looks fun.
I'm definitely going to try it out.
Plus now I won't have to negotiate with the wife when I want to upgrade the bike.
I got a trailer I want to add motors and battery to. And make my bike two-wheel drive.
I could easily tow at least 3 large garbage cans. And do it way cheaper than anyone else.
With batteries on board the trailer I could even install a cooler/heater box. The top is hot the bottom is cold and there are peltiers in-between.
There is not enough financial incentive for it to play any real factor in the employment sector. Get an ebike and ride it to serve at a restaurant. You are guaranteed to make more money.
Great video, very informative. As always, thanks for your hard work.
I've never used a delivery service like Uber Eats or Door Dash. After seeing this I'm less likely to use them. I see their place in society, very useful for some.
Thanks for such a cool video!
I'm glad you liked it!
Hi. I enjoy your videos. Have been watching a while. You're very entertaining on what you do. Thanks & take care!
Wow you convinced me! I will never do this!
Great video. I do Uber eats on e-bike in Daytona Beach area. It's a good break away from a career I was burning out on. Multi apping is the way to go. My GF is a supervisor on a construction site in South Beach. I had entertained spending a week or 2 down there and working while she worked . Besides zero expense other than time and effort with ebike delivery. .. South beach has no parking! I am surprised at the amount of orders offered unless locals are very aware of the less than stellar deliver options. I could not even imagine car delivery in South Beach .
A second battery is good.. I use a battery blender wiring 3 batteries together to extend my range and not worry.
My only enemy here in the south is rain. I can handle pop up storms but this past week was slow misty and consistent rain for 5 days straight! Been here for 33 years and never seen this. Zero work. I refuse to in the rain and not for anything I may do .. just can't trust anyone else on the roads .
Cheers!
I actually think you did pretty good for your second time out lol. Once you learn the area, which orders to accept, and how to juggle multiple apps, as well as knowing which times of day to ride, you could probably double that in a matter of weeks
I’m a DD and UE driver. If I had one of these bikes, I’d definitely use it for delivery, when I’m healthy again. UCF is near me, and is pretty good for bike delivery. I like the delivery bags used here too.
It takes awhile to develop your own strategy. Once you do, the work is much easier and profitable.
You don't need to be healthy to ride an E-Bike. Use throttle only.
@@NextNate03 true, but chemotherapy can compromise judgment when operating a bicycle.
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Sorry if I seem like an ass.
Hopefully things will be better soon.
@@NextNate03 didn’t seem like an ass. Good point/good question 👍
Great video adventure thanks for sharing 😎👍
Wow! Great video! As a near retired person I have wondered about doing this post retirement! Very exploitative of the worker!!!! I wonder if it is better in cities where there is a better minimum wage???
That was nice learning
This is why I hate hotels in apartment buildings here in Portland Oregon. A lot of the hotels only have an address on one side of the building usually above front doors. There’s no address anywhere else on the building and there is also no room guide to where you have to go in the hotel to get to whatever room number. And then hear where you have old industrial spaces that have been converted to apartments either there are no apartment numbers or they’re not lit up at night and you can’t see them.
I am from Sri Lanka. I'm highly appreciate your promoting bikes. That is really important for our globe.
I've got a 2.0, they're pretty solid bikes and easily upgradable if you're into DIY modding and such.
This was fun!
Interesting lessons learned there.
That Lectric 3.0 looks sweet!
I should make one of these. I spent a year upgrading and modding my bike to strategically improve the food delivery process, including, disposable drink bags and attachment mechanism to the outside of the delivery bag to eliminate spills, helmet-mounted flashlight to identify building numbers at night, and since my max speed of 33mph (2x 1000watt motors) is faster than all but highway speed limits in NYC, I frequently ride with the cars (and usually outrun all of them), I have the following safety features: rear-view mirrors and camera, turn signals on my bike and helmet, and a loud horn. I have 4 batteries being used simultaneously via a special adapter, providing a total of 96ah, allowing me to work nonstop for up to 12 hours with 2-wheel drive and zero pedaling without the need to swap batteries. I also have a speaker to play music while I work. My helmet has wind noise cancelling features to greatly reduce that noise, allowing me to almost always hear the music clearly. I hid multiple tracking devices and have an alarm and brake locks with their own alarms for high-speed securing of the bike. I use either none, one, both, and sometimes the chain+lock too, depending on where I'm parking my bike.
I have also fully waterproofed every electronic device and built a permanently-connected waterproof charging system for every electronic device, controlled by a centralized control panel that lets me toggle charging for each individual device, including some (such as all the turn signals) as a group, all powered by a 30ah (soon to be 60ah) waterproofed power bank. I have also mounted almost all the controls for them on my handlebars. For the headlight, I had to open it up and solder wires to the power button's leads, coming out through a drilled (then waterproof sealed) hole, routing to a waterproof power button mounted to the handlebar with a custom 3d-printed mount. I absolutely love this bike and its a total joy to ride
I delivered food by bike in NYC before the days of door dash, e-bikes or even smart phones. I applaud your message on tipping.
I like this channel. I live like the content creator. Life is grand! Especially on an electric bike or trike!
Wow I sure appreciated your video about a doordash delivery day.
yeesh what an adventure that was!
soo many dangers out there.
yeah my wife had a few door dash deliveries and after this I can see why she tips them so well.
1 guy was on a scooter - wow
others in cars, a couple had bikes - wow that was something as they were fast!
but not an ebike delivered for us yet.
might not be such a good idea to do as a career. . .
Love this
“You look like you’re 21” lol. They should pay you more for eco deliveries.
Especially in dense areas where the only option for car deliveries is to block bike lanes or otherwise park illegally. The cities should be making these companies pay a fee for impeding traffic on every order without spaces reserved for drivers and therefore incentivized
them to recruit and keep bike Dashers, e.g. with higher pay.
wish i could do doordash but we have no fast food or restaurants in my town . just a dollar general
For the bike give away, do you need to sign up each time? And would you ship to Canada? So glad you are doing what you can to help folks out
Thanks for the video Dasher ;)
I'm going down there tomorrow via brightline! Should be a blast.
Thanks for this! I supplement my retirement income with bike gig work at times. Pay? Really depends on good tips! Weather, and a plethora of other challenges have everything to do with your income! Positioning oneself near a group of merchants helps! And I always have constructive projects on my phone/computer to do for in between jobs! Lastly. Is every job for you? Is it paying enough, going into a direction you need to go in? Will you be near other clients after drop off? Etc. It's your equipment. Your energy! You are a contractor! Not an employee!
If you're going to do a gig delivery service, you should probably sign up for more than one. You could be running orders for uber eats and instacart too.
I wonder if it would help to have the trailer with a solar generator inside and some flexible portable panels on top so you could have and extra empty battery charging the whole time. Also a good place to store your water and whatever EDC you need for the day. Maybe a little camp chair, sunscreen, bottle mister and fan to set up on breaks.
Most drivers skip the small orders or only do them if they're on the way of higher paying orders. It's okay work if you're able and out of other long term options, but works best as a side gig to a full time job that has benefits or if you keep yourself below the poverty line just enough to qualify for Medicaid and maybe Snap/Ebt.
Thanks for sharing and opening us up to alternative ways of getting by!
That looks like a tough enough job for what little you make and that's in good weather.
Yea, I always tipped my delivery riders, but now I tip a lot more when it's bad weather.
Is there any way to open Ebikesforgood to Canada?? I absolutely love what you're doing and ive been a silent watcher for a while :) Thanks for putting out these videos and having as much fun as you do with it!
With a really powerful ebike I think it can be done easily, specially in places that don't have a lot of steep slopes, like Florida.
Wow great video
We have two Lectric step thru 3.0s. It's too easy to scrape the inside pedal when pedaling through a turn. I'm going to have to learn to just use the throttle through the turns instead. Other than that, we really like them.
At 3:52 I WAS LIKE WHERE is the Netting or straps in your Container.. FREE FLOWING CARGO SPILLS
What I really want is a 360 Cam that auto blurs address, streets, and people.
So I can live stream deliver.
I’ve been waiting for a bike delivery driver. More specifically a non e-bike. The day will come. I hope…
All the bike courier deliveries in NYC are by ebike now. They all have the same battery or multiples of batteries.
I apologize if this was mentioned earlier but can you put a link to your lock of choice that I saw in a few brief images? It was yellow. Thanks!
It would be way easier here in Milwaukee as long as it's not snowing. I have two Lectric XP 2's and love them.
Hi Micah, I'm so happy you're back. I am loving my Propella 7S. I have been using it non stop. I take it for doctor appointments in Manhattan and Brooklyn. I go grocery shopping with it using my backpack. It is really lightweight and such an efficient way to get around town. Without a doubt it has changed my life. You have changed my life through your generosity with EbikesForGood. For anyone that is not aware, Micah is the real deal. He is the type of person this world needs more of , more kindness , more caring of the fellow human. Because of you I will find the right time to pay it forward. Stay safe
That’s amazing to hear, Carlos. I’m so glad I could help you and that the Propella e-bike is so useful for you in your daily life!
Nice video🤘
Cafe lock would make lock/unlock so much easier.
That $3.50 was probably a no tip order. I bet it was sitting there forever too before it made its way down the chain to you.
This. He shouldn't have taken it. Not worth the time/battery. If she can afford delivery and a hotel, she can afford a $5 tip that makes it into a reasonable hourly.
An Ebike would dramatically alter the trajectory of my life. Thank you, either way.
Thanks for the trip down Memory Lane 55 years ago South Beach was not Cool. I wish you could do a review of the XPeak. Specifically Ghost Pealing.
11:39 Boy that bike looks a LOT like my Engwe EP-2
Really been trying too buy one myself and do deliveries n UA-cam videos like this
Cool
Yeah I’ve done DD on and off a few times and it just seems that it never pays off. They even added hourly pay in my area now but it still doesn’t pay enough for the miles on my car.
It's unfortunate that you don't get to see both sides of the transaction. It would be interesting to see what the customer is paying for the delivery VS what you are getting paid. I would bet that Dash, Uber etc. are taking the lions share of the delivery charge. If you had been in a car, even a very efficient one it seems as though you would have burned up most of your earnings. not to mention uncle Sam will be wanting his share of your pay also. On the Ebike I think it might be an interesting way of earing a few dollars on the side, plus keeping in shape (but you got to peddle...). It seems like your bike as set up, is well suited to doing these types of jobs.
There are plenty of videos and cited news articles from reputable outlets that get into this. Even some universities were able to gain access to the data and see the huge pay discrepancies.
Exactly. Imagine a $100 Sushi order via the app. With 30% charged to the restaurant and a delivery fee? Then YOU get offered $2.50 to go get it and take it a mile? Also, when you get there, you wait another 10 mins or so for it to finish being prepared? 😒 See? And it's raining? Or dark, cold and windy? And although the customer received several prompts, they don't meet the delivery and you spend even more time to text them, and or call them to often times reach their answering machine 😞❗ And then they'll ask you to leave it at the door. Even though they have to come and get it. So now you take pictures to document the drop off! All of that for $2.50. And a 15 minute job is now 35 mins because of the delays❗
Wonder how long it would take to pay off the cost of the bike just from doing deliveries?