How Knurling is done

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  • Опубліковано 25 жов 2024

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  • @elkebaumgartner6818
    @elkebaumgartner6818 4 роки тому +10

    Love the pattern this created! Who knew that knurling could be mesmerizing!

  • @mike-oz6iw
    @mike-oz6iw 3 роки тому +3

    One of the best teachers at CC

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  3 роки тому +1

      Simon is a good

    • @mike-oz6iw
      @mike-oz6iw 3 роки тому +2

      Actually the comment was directed to you.

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  3 роки тому +1

      @@mike-oz6iw
      Even better

  • @geirtwo
    @geirtwo 2 роки тому +15

    How does the tool hit the same place grooves again and again instead of just making a mess?

    • @kylebrown8891
      @kylebrown8891 2 роки тому +1

      Same question here

    • @respectfd0.1
      @respectfd0.1 Рік тому +1

      By using carriage you can make the accurate cut

    • @marinus6385
      @marinus6385 Рік тому +2

      I believe because the diameter of the tool and workpiece have a certain ratio

  • @James-fs4rn
    @James-fs4rn 2 роки тому +14

    👍 there can be math involved for knurling too if you want to calculate the blank diameter. Kinda like cutting a gear to see how many teeth will fit on the circumference. Dorian Tool has some good info on the subject.

    • @raysfix
      @raysfix Рік тому +3

      You are 100% correct it’s basically the same as making a year depending on the pitch
      I will have to check out the website that you suggested
      Thank you for taking the time to comment much appreciated
      Ray

  • @magnoliamike
    @magnoliamike 3 роки тому +5

    I am a traditional WetShaver and in a lot of the Safety Razors I have , have excellent knurling

  • @jackmccallum6518
    @jackmccallum6518 Рік тому +3

    what an epic video i had a real riveting experience

    • @raysfix
      @raysfix Рік тому

      Thank you for the nice comment and also thank you for taking the time to comment. It’s much appreciated.
      Ray

  • @Pr3stag3
    @Pr3stag3 8 місяців тому +1

    So the embossing Knurling tool is pressed on to the piece with a lot of force? Is that how embossed knurling works? Also how much force/pressure would you use to get a good effect on the piece thanks for this video. How do the scissor knurling tool produce enough pressure to emboss also.

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  8 місяців тому

      it’s not really the amount of pressure it’s the amount of pressure. It takes to embed a certain distance.
      if your machine is not very rigid, you are better off, going with the scissor type because it compresses on the top and bottom, and will require less force from your cross slide and compound rest
      I have another knurling video coming out. It’s more of the technical and not actually a practical demonstration but that’s gonna be six months to a year.
      Hopefully this answers your question thank you
      Ray

  • @leverman7517
    @leverman7517 4 роки тому +8

    I would usually finish a knurl in 2 or 3 passes, never broke a tool or wasted a part form bad cut. btw, looks like bodies for albrecht chuck Rock on!

  • @compassprecision
    @compassprecision 4 роки тому +3

    Nice video as usual. Enjoyed watching this.

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  4 роки тому +1

      thank you for taking the time to comment and for your nice comment
      Ray

    • @compassprecision
      @compassprecision 4 роки тому +2

      shop and math anytime!

  • @leroy5007
    @leroy5007 4 місяці тому

    With Sorbie, the quality is not always there. The Simon hope products that I've been able to get my hands-on have been excellent.

  • @cracker0190
    @cracker0190 10 місяців тому +1

    I don't understand how it makes a diamond pattern when the teeth are all angled in the same direction... is the lower wheel angled the opposite way?

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  10 місяців тому

      Yes, the lower wheels in a different direction

  • @B1G_ChUnG5
    @B1G_ChUnG5 Рік тому +3

    I’m a cnc student and I was curious about this today. 😂

    • @raysfix
      @raysfix Рік тому +1

      Hopefully you found the video useful
      And thank you for taking the time to comment
      Ray

  • @dudleybarker2273
    @dudleybarker2273 6 місяців тому +1

    i don't see a credit or link to Simon... did you forget to add him

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  6 місяців тому

      I absolutely didn’t forget about Simon
      He’s a great man
      And an excellent instructor

    • @dudleybarker2273
      @dudleybarker2273 6 місяців тому

      @@shopandmath please drop a link to his channel - no idea who he is other than 'Simon'

  • @accuratusindia5557
    @accuratusindia5557 2 роки тому +2

    Very informative video, thanks

    • @raysfix
      @raysfix 2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for taking time to comment much appreciated
      Ray

  • @larryschweitzer4904
    @larryschweitzer4904 4 роки тому +5

    Interesting that no lube was used on the actual knurl surface. Seems like every other demo I have seen uses lube, liberally.
    New to me, was using a knurling operation to emboss numbers and the like on dials.
    Thanks, well done video.

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  4 роки тому +4

      we should have used coolant in the knurl and oil on the studs but we were videoing and would not have gotten the shot

    • @chazz.zaragoza.9561
      @chazz.zaragoza.9561 4 роки тому +1

      Typically when you're watching machining videos, they don't use coolant because it will end up eating through plastics on the camera and end up ruining footage.

    • @user-wo7rz3yn4o
      @user-wo7rz3yn4o 2 роки тому

      And I too have read that lots of oil is to be used during knurling but after watching this video I'm starting to wonder if the oil just keeps the chips suspended to be ground I to the developing pattern and thus my poor knurling?

  • @MidEngineering
    @MidEngineering 4 роки тому +7

    And how it doesn't always go quite right...

  • @malbirrell
    @malbirrell 4 роки тому +2

    Apparently the backlash in the feed doesn't hurt results ??

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  4 роки тому +3

      the machines are in good shape
      there is more play in the knurling tool then in the machine

  • @PBMS123
    @PBMS123 3 роки тому +2

    Not sure if I missed it, but what feed rate do you use or how do you determine how to? I can never seem to find out

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  3 роки тому +3

      what we used is listed at the beginning of the video
      it depends on the material and the diameter

  • @tonygombas491
    @tonygombas491 Рік тому

    A big thank you 👍👍

  • @sanjayprajapat9839
    @sanjayprajapat9839 4 роки тому +1

    how knurling will be done in production

  • @GraphicManInnovations
    @GraphicManInnovations 2 роки тому +2

    this is strange obviously the end result shown at the end of the video is no matching the result shown on the video, i came here coz i have the same exact issue if found here!. notice at 5:52 you will find one of the wheels is double marking, for example making 0.5mm pitch instead of 1.0, notice the shape drawn is like double in length (not a square), in that case it is impossible to fix unless you start over, notice also when he continue to knurl it came out pretty messed up

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  2 роки тому +1

      Sorry there’s no conspiracy theory here same part same guy same Cut
      There was no mixing matching
      Simon will get a kick out of this though

    • @GraphicManInnovations
      @GraphicManInnovations 2 роки тому

      @@shopandmath one of the wheel is splitting the pitch, you dont see that?! it is a known issue

    • @howardosborne8647
      @howardosborne8647 2 роки тому +3

      One of the wheels is producing a double tracked pattern. That is why it looks messed up. What you're looking to achieve is even pyramids which this isn't
      I don't traverse back and forth loads of times as seen here but just apply a firm bite at the starting point and hit power feed when I see fully even opposing pyramids.

    • @GraphicManInnovations
      @GraphicManInnovations 2 роки тому +1

      @@howardosborne8647 yeah and i dont understand how shop and math cant see that!, i solved that problem already as you said

  • @DobDob
    @DobDob 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you!

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  4 місяці тому

      Thank you for commenting and thank you for taking the time to comment. It is much appreciated.

  • @shamaparveen9002
    @shamaparveen9002 3 роки тому +1

    How can we knurl flat brass rule which is 3 mm thick, 1 inch wide and 1 metre long. How to knurl on side which is 3 mm thick?

    • @8931831
      @8931831 3 роки тому

      Do you have a milling machine with 1 m travel and power feed?

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  3 роки тому +1

      you can flat knurle with a milling machine
      and there is a process called dimond cutting

  • @Pyle81
    @Pyle81 3 роки тому

    Good video, thanks.

  • @union310
    @union310 11 місяців тому +1

    Great if you have reverse!

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  11 місяців тому

      Thank you for your nice comment and thank you for taking the time to comment. It is much appreciated this videos or description for my students on how to create that exact knurl
      I plan on doing a future video of all the theory or proper neural should be done. Thanks again Ray.

  • @neil1541
    @neil1541 2 роки тому +2

    Hi, what size 'Cut's' are you inputting on the cross slide? I heard 3 thou mentioned, what is your initial 'Cut' so to speak of, Thank you

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  2 роки тому +1

      It depends if you have the knurling head perpendicular or if it’s on a slight angle
      If you’re cutting aluminum or nerling aluminum you can go much deeper per past than you can steel
      Depending on how Rigid your set up is I show the students how much pressure not really depth because the tool post will spring back
      What if I had to guess I’ll probably say first pass 0.02-0.03
      And after the first pass probably about 0.01
      On manual machines the depth isn’t quite as important as continuous pressure
      Your tool post will spring back On less Rigid machines
      Hope this helps
      Ray

    • @neil1541
      @neil1541 2 роки тому

      @@shopandmath Thanks for responding

  • @zealKNOWLEDGE.
    @zealKNOWLEDGE. 11 місяців тому

    If after nurning diameter 35 or something. What is the formula for before nurnling diameter/ blank diameter for nurling. Plz replay🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 any formula.

  • @jackwillson8099
    @jackwillson8099 6 місяців тому +1

    Try knurling a 6" round stock 6 ' long with a crown in rhw roll lol ,your in for a long day if your scared to knurle

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  6 місяців тому

      That sounds excellent. Would love to see a video or a photo of the finished product.

    • @jackwillson8099
      @jackwillson8099 6 місяців тому +1

      @shopandmath I would have love too video it ,but company policy no video to phones ,people don't believe I did it lol ,but I did

  • @harjeetsingh6722
    @harjeetsingh6722 Рік тому

    Need video on cabinet maker

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  Рік тому

      Cabinet making is in the woodworking department

  • @michaeltsouras
    @michaeltsouras 4 роки тому +2

    Is your school in Toronto?

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  4 роки тому +1

      This was filmed at Conestoga college in Kitchener Ontario

    • @michaeltsouras
      @michaeltsouras 4 роки тому +1

      Oh Kitchener. I got excited for a moment.

  • @huynhjp-familycokhinhatban3681
    @huynhjp-familycokhinhatban3681 2 роки тому

    👍👍👍

  • @jonatanrullman
    @jonatanrullman 11 місяців тому +2

    For a video about how to knurl there is a severe lack of how to knurl. Total waste of time.

    • @shopandmath
      @shopandmath  11 місяців тому

      Thank you for taking the time to comment

  • @__tacocat__
    @__tacocat__ 2 роки тому +3

    Clicked off when you said you were going to be hard to hear because of the mask

    • @travism4528
      @travism4528 2 роки тому +1

      My thought exactly. Hope the mask gets caught in the lathe.

    • @nicholaswilson2155
      @nicholaswilson2155 2 роки тому

      Hahaha,who the f_c_ wears a mask in the shop?...

  • @duckslayer11000
    @duckslayer11000 3 роки тому +4

    Scissors type are the only way to go. Even the cheap ones we can get down in the States for $60 from Victor Machinery.com work very well. The pins for the wheels are made from mild steel and need replaced and then they are good to go.