Different Swords in the Medieval Islamic World (WITH COMBAT!)

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @chrisnewhard5863
    @chrisnewhard5863 2 роки тому +5

    Loving the videos so far! A few critiques, though: having some trouble trying to imagine these designs, so having a few more visual examples of the items you mention would be great to make the content more easily accessible.
    In addition, I've noticed that your shots are well exposed (not too light/bright, not too dark), but some of the shots are suddenly brought out-of-focus. I think you could benefit from manually adjusting your aperture so the depth-of-field stays more consistent, and we can see things like the writing on your sword better. However, this would likely also mean that you would also have to adjust your shutter speed and ISO. It can be a bit daunting to step away from the camera's automatic controls, but learning to master the "exposure triangle" can significantly increase the visual quality of the filming. It also leaves less to do during editing and post-processing.
    Nonetheless, I really appreciate your content so far. As someone majoring in both digital storytelling and middle east studies, your videos are really helping me move away from my reliance on Orientalist clichés when approaching these concepts and iconography. Keep it up! Really want to see where this channel goes!

  • @BorninPurple
    @BorninPurple 2 роки тому +28

    Thank you for having me on, it was a pleasure!
    Edit: I have a few corrections:
    1) I mention "Medieval French" when talking about Orientalism, this should have been "Early Modern" (just a minor word change but both mean different things completely!)
    2) Ibn Mangli references that 'qaljuri' swords (edge-and-a-half swords) have points, however straight double edged swords were blunt at the tip (apologies, this was a mis-read on my part). I have the French translation of Ibn Mangli's hunting treatise which reads:
    Pour l'onagre, je ne connais guère d'efficace que la pourfente obtenue avec la sabre qilijûrî qui est le nôtre, à nous memlouks, car le sabre bédouin n'a pas, lui, de ponte rectiligne à double trachant (dhubaba) por éventrer.
    Translation: For onagers, I do not know much about the effectiveness of the qilijuri sword that we have, for us Mamluks, because the Bedouin sword does not have a rectilinear (straight or wide angle) double-edged point (dhubaba) to get into it.
    3) Skanderbeg duelled a Tatar in front of Murad II where he cut off his head (so it wasn't an execution).
    4) The classical period in the Medieval Arab/Islamic world would most likely have been in the Abassid period with the establishment of classical learning.
    5) Orientalism is focused on the "East" and not just the Middle East/Islamic World.

    • @GoldenMiddleAge
      @GoldenMiddleAge  2 роки тому

      Thank you for the collaboration!

    • @AlexanderGent
      @AlexanderGent 2 роки тому

      Interesting discussions guys. I've just come across your channels, been interested in this subject for a while.

    • @BorninPurple
      @BorninPurple 2 роки тому

      @@AlexanderGent ​Hi, thanks for your comment. Apologies I must not have seen this.
      To respond to your comment before it was edited (as the pre-edited one displays in my notifications), please let me know if you would like to collaborate. I've sent you an email.

  • @dlatrexswords
    @dlatrexswords 2 роки тому +3

    Gentlemen, this is a great discussion and demonstration! Please keep it up. Thank you so much for detailing some of the sources and descriptions for arms we have from the Abbasid era! When you were describing the different types of swords as listed by Hizam, I'm curious if any of the categories included qarachur and qaljuri? I am trying to bring together the terms with Samanid finds from Nishapur.

  • @greghenrikson952
    @greghenrikson952 2 роки тому +1

    Great channel! I haven't found a good discussion of these topics since Dr. Khorasani's lectures at WMAW.

  • @kaitlin1347
    @kaitlin1347 2 роки тому +5

    This is really interesting! Hearing about the texts that describe the sword-fighting moves and techniques is very cool! When Nicholas is talking about a lack of translation of some of the texts, what language(s) are those texts in?

    • @GoldenMiddleAge
      @GoldenMiddleAge  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! From my understanding, the Furussiya treatise are in Arabic

  • @aripson
    @aripson Рік тому

    This is really good!

  • @IPostSwords
    @IPostSwords 2 роки тому +9

    I enjoyed the discourse about non existent "scimitars" in this. Very much so the consequence of orientalism and wilful ignorance on behalf of historical tourists.

    • @GoldenMiddleAge
      @GoldenMiddleAge  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! Yes there are misconceptions about 'scimitars'

    • @MrBottlecapBill
      @MrBottlecapBill 2 роки тому

      @@GoldenMiddleAge I'm wondering if the misconception is actually based on executioners type swords of the era which are usually much more robust as they're not meant to fight with, just do a lot of damage in one stroke.

    • @Andrei_Antonov
      @Andrei_Antonov Місяць тому

      ​@@GoldenMiddleAge Thank you. For once someone doesn't disrespect the history of most curved blades

  • @richardmcarthur8568
    @richardmcarthur8568 Рік тому

    Very informative.

  • @kaitolumiere24
    @kaitolumiere24 2 роки тому +2

    Another brilliant video! Learned so much about the swords and how they were used. Hey do you mind if I reference your stances and moves in my manga? 😂

  • @Hadi_Furqan-vu1en
    @Hadi_Furqan-vu1en 4 місяці тому

    love the vid

  • @alomaralsulaiman6501
    @alomaralsulaiman6501 2 роки тому +2

    Keep going guys.

    • @GoldenMiddleAge
      @GoldenMiddleAge  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you

    • @ajithsidhu7183
      @ajithsidhu7183 2 роки тому +1

      @@GoldenMiddleAge please do on talwars and khands

    • @ajithsidhu7183
      @ajithsidhu7183 2 роки тому +1

      @@GoldenMiddleAge also martial arts used

    • @ajithsidhu7183
      @ajithsidhu7183 2 роки тому +1

      @@GoldenMiddleAge please do on ethnic punjabi influences in the armies of arabia

    • @GoldenMiddleAge
      @GoldenMiddleAge  2 роки тому +2

      @@ajithsidhu7183 I will research about this

  • @fisheye9559
    @fisheye9559 2 роки тому

    This os super interesting, thank you. Only 108 views, very surprising.

  • @ebonytv3414
    @ebonytv3414 Рік тому

    And what swords did the moors and African Muslims use or don’t they count.

  • @ottomanswords
    @ottomanswords 2 роки тому +1

    Congratulations, I recommend you to do more offensive and defensive positions in other videos. Moreover, some swords are more accurate for attack, while others are more advantageous for defense. Different exercises with different kinds of swords would be great :)

    • @GoldenMiddleAge
      @GoldenMiddleAge  2 роки тому

      Thank you very much, I will research about your recommendation

  • @adil_ali8855
    @adil_ali8855 2 роки тому +1

    Assalamualikum plz make a video on Medieval Islamic head gear plz 🙏🙏 from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳

  • @jorgemasvidal7566
    @jorgemasvidal7566 2 роки тому +1

    Thank for telling that the early swords was stright

  • @AUU-n3n
    @AUU-n3n Рік тому

    Barely any images of weapons

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm6769 2 роки тому

    🤠👍🏿