Why high reps KILL your strength gains

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  • @kaori-3882
    @kaori-3882 2 місяці тому +94

    Hi, Love your channel! and great video.
    I have a bit of an issue with videos that compare strength vs. hypertrophy vs. cardio. I know some might say this is nitpicky, but I’ve seen people take the wrong message from these! Like a friend of mine who's a bit overweight and sedentary. He watched a lot of Dr. Mike's videos and said, “Dr. Mike says I have to choose between strength or hypertrophy, but since I’m a beginner, I can do both, but I want to get back into playing basketball, but Dr. Mike said cardio kills gains.”
    So I asked him, “Do you want to be a professional athlete?” and he said, “No.” So I told him “Then just go play basketball!”
    I know this may be obvious for some! but my point is that the whole "you need to choose between hypertrophy and strength unless you’re a beginner" thing can be misunderstood by some viewers. Of course, if you’re aiming to be a bodybuilder or strength athlete, it’s important to focus on the right type of training. But for anyone who just wants to: look good, play sports, have good cardiovascular health, have basic strength, etc - you can have it all!! You can be a “pro” at being a functional active human being.

    • @JohnCarterRocks
      @JohnCarterRocks Місяць тому +3

      EXCEPT Dr Mike has said many times that beginners don't need to worry about the problem you raise.

  • @oldgrizz8720
    @oldgrizz8720 2 місяці тому +59

    started lifting in 1969. Only information available was Bob Hoffman's magazine Health and Strength. Discipline and commitment gave me my initial gains. But it wasn't until 1978 when I met Paul Wren, a world champion powerlifter that I learned about volume training. I also learned that the world didn't revolve around 3 set of 10 reps. I am still a fan of resistance training, working mostly for longevity rather than ego. At 67 yrs of age I cycle my training to shorter heavier sets in the fall and winter, and lighter longer sets for conditioning in the spring and summer. This seems to give me what my body needs. Really appreciated the video. I enjoy the heady nature of training as much as the physical part of it.

    • @jox27
      @jox27 2 місяці тому

      How many reps sets those short and heavy sets. And did you have some.injuries. my knee was.litlle hurting long time until it recovered. I dont think heavy lifting is good for long term when you get in old days it will catch you up

    • @mastersironmantarmstrong7148
      @mastersironmantarmstrong7148 2 місяці тому +3

      That’s great you have been training that long! Love it!

  • @2ndHandHero
    @2ndHandHero 2 місяці тому +45

    “I can deadlifts 775 any way I want!”
    Yeah. Pretty much how I am with 175…

  • @Chopper140
    @Chopper140 2 місяці тому +103

    The timing of this video is paranormal. I was just getting done thinking about not doing too many reps.

    • @bdegrds
      @bdegrds 2 місяці тому +11

      No reason not to throw in high reps, you will never know what works for you and what does not without trying things, google cannot tell you what works for your body kiddo

    • @aabahdjfisosososos
      @aabahdjfisosososos 2 місяці тому

      @@bdegrds
      Yeah well high reps is going to fry your body and nervous system. Better just use it for accessories.

    • @freeaudiobooks7469
      @freeaudiobooks7469 2 місяці тому +4

      A guy on the internet said so. Lmfao

    • @brendanmoore6869
      @brendanmoore6869 2 місяці тому +2

      When your triceps are injured then it's low weight and reps.😢

  • @Khauzz
    @Khauzz 2 місяці тому +77

    6-8 reps in accessories.
    1-6 reps in compound movements.
    Works perfectly well for me.

    • @henrykjohn78
      @henrykjohn78 2 місяці тому +2

      Are you also more powerful than strong?

    • @Edgycoo
      @Edgycoo 2 місяці тому +13

      @@henrykjohn78 I am more powerful than strong. Went to regionals for shotput. I actually find now, it is irrelevant what rep range I train in. Literally all work the same way as long as i am progressive overloading

    • @henrykjohn78
      @henrykjohn78 2 місяці тому +2

      @Edgycoo I've got the same issue! I've tried higher rep ranges but 1-8 is just great. 8 on hypertrophy is just perfect

    • @malomkarom
      @malomkarom 2 місяці тому +7

      @@henrykjohn78 Hypertrophy is mostly rom and volume. You can technically make the same gains from 4-5 reps as you would from 8-20(30).
      I'm not saying you aren't right, hypertrophy is just not nearly as closely related to strengthsports as it may seem.

    • @slXD100
      @slXD100 2 місяці тому +8

      @@malomkarom tendon strenght is where its at when it comes to real strenght

  • @jeremyspencer5301
    @jeremyspencer5301 2 місяці тому +20

    I shouldn't question HOOPER as he is an accomplished Strongman, BUT I have found that I seem to do better for all around performance and strength gains when I mix up rep ranges. I've done nothing but 2-4 reps on compounds for weeks and got stronger. I've done weeks of nothing but 8-15 reps on compounds and GOT STRONGER also. When I do low reps high weight I just do not leave the gym satisfied or feel like I got a productive session in. My favorite thing to do is do 3-4 sets of heavy 3-6 reps and then 2 back off sets of 12-20 reps on the same movement. I just don't feel the muscle activation on low reps, but I know they are building strength even though im not "feeling" the pump.

    • @greenwendal5056
      @greenwendal5056 2 місяці тому +1

      This is the way

    • @MC-ep8cu
      @MC-ep8cu 2 місяці тому +6

      Hooper does reccomend mixing up blocks actually and you can include a hypertrophy block in there.

    • @emilgabl9069
      @emilgabl9069 2 місяці тому +1

      If you wanted to take it to another level do hybrid calisthenics and gymnastic rings. This along with your existing routine you will be stronger than you have ever been guaranteed, especially if you can graduate to the gymnastic rings you will be a god.
      I love you revelation and workout💪🏾👍🏾

    • @Sevensliders
      @Sevensliders Місяць тому +1

      I just do a powerbuilding routine for 12 weeks. Heavy compounds with progressive overload, volume-centric accessories with moderate heaviness.

    • @greenwendal5056
      @greenwendal5056 Місяць тому +1

      @@Sevensliders Sometimes I think we all over think this stuff. I'm just a weekend warrior at this point. I don't plan on competing or anything just like to stay fit and healthy. Doing pretty much any exercise is good. Im gonna do a white coller boxing mach soon so gotta focus on cardio over the next few months.

  • @BUFFALO_cougar_slayer
    @BUFFALO_cougar_slayer 2 місяці тому +17

    Plenty of elite lifters from Culver City to Columbus got crazy strong using conjugate training, using both high and low reps concomitantly. It doesn’t have to be one or the other exclusively, nor does it have to be separated by mesocycles or blocks or even undulated

    • @bsrkoacar8414
      @bsrkoacar8414 2 місяці тому

      True but I don't know of many raw lifters who have done as well using a westside style program. Seems to work better for geared lifters

    • @drinkinouttacups2665
      @drinkinouttacups2665 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@bsrkoacar8414 mike hedlesky seth albersworth garret gonzales brandon smitley greg panora matt wenning cailer woolam

  • @rimantasandriukaitis2730
    @rimantasandriukaitis2730 2 місяці тому +10

    I used a tip from Squat Sempai to make breakthroughs in squating. Regular 5x5 with decent amount of rest in between sets and then 3x10 with 1 min rest in between. Weight for 5x5 is around 80-85% of your max, it should be hard reps that almost break your form and last rep is pure grind. But you keep form for all of that. And then for 3x10 you drop weight to 50% of your max and just go nuts. Hardest part for that - breathing. Maybe my core is now the weak link but breathing was really hard.
    Legs have a lot of endurance and can tolerate more reps than the rest of body.

  • @jimdavis-gi1nq
    @jimdavis-gi1nq 2 місяці тому +48

    So true. I watched a guy bench over 400 lbs for over 20 reps once and I thought he definitely isnt strong at all.

  • @itsjustme1616
    @itsjustme1616 2 місяці тому +50

    Man, my zero reps are definitely going to start paying off soon 💪🏻💪🏻

    • @DavidVirtanen
      @DavidVirtanen 2 місяці тому +3

      Let's Gooo Champ 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

    • @Zmasteri
      @Zmasteri 2 місяці тому +2

      Thats going for below and beyond!

    • @itsjustme1616
      @itsjustme1616 2 місяці тому

      @@DavidVirtanen I’ll see y’all at the strongman event soon enough 🫡

    • @itsjustme1616
      @itsjustme1616 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Zmasteri it’s so nice to finally see my efforts be noticed and rewarded. Thank you!

    • @jerryvandevort2366
      @jerryvandevort2366 Місяць тому +1

      Taking souls !!

  • @mastersironmantarmstrong7148
    @mastersironmantarmstrong7148 2 місяці тому +4

    This was an excellent informative video.
    Reading some of the comments I think some people misunderstood what he was saying to a degree.
    I don’t believe he was saying you should never do more than 5 reps or not even you should never do more than 5 reps on a compound movement.
    I believe he is generally referring in this video to training compound movements in phases of your training where you are attempting to maximize strength performance it is best to stay below 5 reps as a general guideline.

  • @joecowan3719
    @joecowan3719 2 місяці тому +10

    Awesome appearance on the Massenomics Podcast...was a lot of fun hearing you talk with Tanner and Tommy!

    • @Nick-gg6tg
      @Nick-gg6tg 2 місяці тому

      I had to stop listening, never got to the hooper part. Too much nonsense babbling

    • @jakewalker412
      @jakewalker412 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Nick-gg6tg If you don't realize how skipping to parts in a video work on the internet at this point then I am afraid you are lost

  • @michaelbutler3250
    @michaelbutler3250 2 місяці тому +6

    I agree with Mitchell. I'm 63 and have tried all things. I have been a competitive power lifter. Heavy loads stimulate the CNS in a way nothing else on earth does, with the exception of isometrics. If strength is your desire, you will only gain it by stimulating the CNS. Consider the strongest humans and Mitchell's perspective. He is one of them. He is an expert and has demonstrated it. All strong humans share training in ways that stimulate the CNS. Rock climbers, hanging from your fingertips while inverted or partially inverted demands super human strength. How do they train? Isometric holds-like gymnasts and movement based by climbing and developing skill. Look at a pro arm wrestler, low volume, heavy loads through range and equal focus on isometric holds and in concentric movement under heavy load, they are amazing. My strength has not declined over time. I still deadlift. Heavy. Low reps never more than a 5, usually 2"s-3"s. I do isometric holds with a strap and piece of pipe. Farmer's walks and heavy sand bag carries. When deadlifting I try and get into the CNS and know I'm there when I am trembling, likewise with isometrics. My experience is any effort I wasted on volume definitely took a lot away from my primary goal of getting stronger. I just got tired. If strength is your goal, focus on only that, train appropriately, safely. Everyone should be training for strength. Strength is what enables you to move your skeleton efficiently. When you no longer can, your lifespan decreases dramatically. Training for strength is training for longevity. Everything Mitchell discusses I have experienced. Thanks Mitchell...

    • @Rasplata5
      @Rasplata5 Місяць тому

      Your strength diminishes as you age. You are fooling yourself if you think that your method of lifting will prevent diminished strength. It’s called sarcopenia. Period.

    • @mauort6870
      @mauort6870 12 днів тому

      ​@@Rasplata5sarcopenia is nuanced like all things related to aging. Read about it. Degeneration occurs much faster and more prominently in people with less activity and less muscle mass. There are guaranteed people much older and much stronger than you... And likely also with a much better attitude 😋

  • @Iamtongue
    @Iamtongue 2 місяці тому +25

    I've been doing 8-12 reps for 12 years, but last year i hired a strength coach and did low reps. Usually 5 reps. ANd my strength has increased. My max bench so far is 122kg for 5. Before I met him i was only doing chest press with free weights and i only did 30kg in each hand.

    • @MRM.98
      @MRM.98 2 місяці тому +4

      It’s not that 8-12 isn’t optimal. It’s because your body got used to the work. It’s best to switch rep ranges and exercises when plateaued.

    • @glegg54
      @glegg54 2 місяці тому +1

      You can progressively overload in the 8-12 rep range too. Increase the weight you are performing by 5 lbs every 4-6 weeks and try to maintain that 8-12 rep range at slightly heavier weights.

    • @GlenRoss-ug5jm
      @GlenRoss-ug5jm Місяць тому

      i used to do 4 sets of 15 reps reverse bicep curls and 4 sets of 2O reps wrist curls and it was too much.Like you i found just 5 curls of them is enough and made me stronger.

    • @ObsidianArrowYT
      @ObsidianArrowYT 18 днів тому

      You shouldn’t do 8-12 reps you should go till failure and progressive overload

    • @glegg54
      @glegg54 18 днів тому

      @@ObsidianArrowYT I would advise against pushing to failure when progressively overloading. Leaving a rep in reserve or training at RPE 8-9 is better. Get close to failure so that you are pushing yourself hard enough without failing.

  • @M1keDaly
    @M1keDaly 2 місяці тому +5

    Great video. Explains my progress over the past year and a half going from a high volume, light load program for fat loss. To your kick start program that combined moderate and higher rep exercises with medium volumes. Strength progressed a fairly well, for me anyway. Based on my performance from that, I imagine a program specifically designed for strength would have made me even stronger if my 56 year old joints could handle the higher loads. Now, prepping for a bodybuilding show in November, I tried to keep a modified version of your program. It went ok for about 5 weeks as I still tried to progress my loads, then I gradually started to miss targets and wound up having to lighten load and increase reps.
    As a side note. I saw one of your videos where your giving yourself a 50% chance to break the record at the deadlift world championships in Nevada. I don't know man. Your a realist, I get it, but you don't give yourself enough credit. Seems every time I've watch you compete, you push yourself above and beyond. Its higher then 50%.

  • @emilgabl9069
    @emilgabl9069 2 місяці тому +2

    I’m 54 and have no pain anywhere. The key is hybrid Calisthenics because it will strengthen tendons, ligaments and it will incorporate more overall muscle fibers than just lifting weights. Don’t baby yourself as you get older, be smart and go hard and you will be fine.

  • @EvWking
    @EvWking 2 місяці тому +27

    high reps do wonders for your tendons and ligaments, not to mention stamina, endurance, and joint longevity.

    • @beecj0
      @beecj0 2 місяці тому

      Not according to the moose.

    • @nocapproductions5471
      @nocapproductions5471 2 місяці тому +3

      Yes, but this is about strongmen, not about bodybuilders

    • @dyelbodybuild5601
      @dyelbodybuild5601 2 місяці тому

      ⁠@@nocapproductions5471George leeman did basically nothing but high reps and deadlifted 909 raw.(in comp) 907x4
      800 for 8
      100 lb DB shoulder press for 60 reps. Along with many many other high rep lifts.

    • @EvWking
      @EvWking 2 місяці тому

      @@nocapproductions5471 it applies to every discipline, does that mean the sole focus? no. But high volume weight training is a great way to help with recovery after a competition/meet.

    • @Lavabug
      @Lavabug Місяць тому

      The tendon bit is largely a myth. Tendons do not undergo adaptations with loads less than 75% 1RM, which is not something most can do for sets of 10 for very long.

  • @cy.d.2208
    @cy.d.2208 2 місяці тому +7

    The more volume I do on upper body, the stronger my bench gets. Highly specialised, heavy powerlifting training has failed to make me stronger on bench for the last two-three years.
    Build muscle and work capacity first guys, then do the strength work.

    • @darrell9294
      @darrell9294 Місяць тому

      You're half right

    • @ObsidianArrowYT
      @ObsidianArrowYT 18 днів тому

      Well if your doing it too heavy and you can barely do 3 reps yeah your not gonna build that much strength

  • @TearTheRoof0ff
    @TearTheRoof0ff 2 місяці тому +4

    I think it should be incorporated somewhere. After all, the strongman competitions often include events for reps which far exceed 5.

  • @johningham1880
    @johningham1880 2 місяці тому +4

    “All the muscles between the rib cage and the pelvis” is a really succinct definition of the core

  • @witchking2063
    @witchking2063 2 місяці тому +3

    Only thing I would add is, their is no wasted work. If you do four reps on a set, but wanted five, so you get half way with that fifth it is still good work. All in the context of being safe and mindful of course.

  • @marijnclaesen
    @marijnclaesen Місяць тому +2

    i'm training since 16 and now 38. Always natural. I got a nice body and really good definition and mass. Always from high reps. I'm convinced it's very good for mass, definition and no injuries. And i'm still very strong for my weight. Almost half of my body mass extra in bench

  • @Hautchen
    @Hautchen 2 місяці тому

    Excellent quality information, as usual.
    Suggestion; create a video on training for strength endurance.

  • @michaelercolano629
    @michaelercolano629 Місяць тому

    Some good info here, I’ve been dabbing into the strength world and everything is like a foreign language. This helps understand rep ranges and WHY

  • @r.e.4640
    @r.e.4640 Місяць тому +1

    This is WHY, Max OT Training, works so well in the 4-6 rep range at 85% of 1 rep max

  • @unapologetic7900
    @unapologetic7900 Місяць тому +1

    This makes sense if your goal is strictly power lifting, but for hypertrophy and asthetics, recent studies show that rep ranges up to 30 or more can produce similar results as 8-10 reps.
    It's all about what you're after. I'm 73 and cant afford to lift heavy any more due to the risk of injury.

  • @Def2ual
    @Def2ual 2 місяці тому

    The difference between power and strength has never been explained so well .. thank you

  • @CapAnson12345
    @CapAnson12345 Місяць тому +3

    I'd rather be able to lift a moderate amount of weight a bunch of times than a massive amount for 3 or 4 reps. I'm not going to be competing in WSM or anything anyway.. might as well go for a nice mix of strength/endurance.

    • @justfun5479
      @justfun5479 Місяць тому +2

      For normal people, that's the goal.

  • @mamikgibar
    @mamikgibar 2 місяці тому +1

    One situation where I might disagree slightly is, for younger training age lifters (regardless of chronological age) if they don't have a developed work capacity. The higher rep sets can help build overall work capacity, and I've found that's definitely relevant for lifting heavier weight, at least in my mind/experience. Geoffrey Verity Schofield had an interesting video about this recently. Once you're at Mitch's level you have that built, and really need to focus training to develop increments in strength. Earlier lifters probably need to develop work capacity even as they are growing strength--this is the current focus of my training, which is adapted from a video Alex Bromley did about Doug Hepburn's approach.

  • @LeonCalhoun-d9b
    @LeonCalhoun-d9b 2 місяці тому

    Appreciate you speaking on this I've just been in the middle of high reps for Benchpress after a long time doing heavyweight and was thinking about going back to my powerlifting training so you helped me make up my mind to get back to strength training this subject is important for everyone to know to get better strength gains thank you Mitch .

  • @Maltetren
    @Maltetren 2 місяці тому +71

    I mean. Poundstone, Kaz, Eddie, Nick Best, and Mark Felix all used higher reps so its not an absolute thing

    • @AugmentedDictatorGames
      @AugmentedDictatorGames 2 місяці тому +13

      Well, Eddie is actually genetically gifted, as in he has a genetically lower amount of myostatin to deal with. He could build muscle farting hard. 😂😂

    • @Sene03
      @Sene03 2 місяці тому +9

      All drug free athletes...

    • @BUFFALO_cougar_slayer
      @BUFFALO_cougar_slayer 2 місяці тому

      @@AugmentedDictatorGameswait, people still believe in the myostatin deficiency thing? What year is it? 😅
      Seriously though, myostatin isn’t really a major factor. Myostatin-like cortisol-is a GOOD thing. You will literally die without it. It’s only demonized by quacks who don’t understand physiology. The biggest factors in determining who’s a genetic freak for muscle and strength and who’s not is in androgen receptor sensitivity, gene transcription factors in the muscle cells themselves, and IGF-1 levels

    • @MegaLegz
      @MegaLegz 2 місяці тому +6

      Did they use them exclusively or just in the off season to strengthen tendons?

    • @goodtaste4
      @goodtaste4 2 місяці тому +11

      @@AugmentedDictatorGames all these guys are genetically gifted otherwise the wouldnt even be at wsm

  • @Tubby_brewster82
    @Tubby_brewster82 2 місяці тому +2

    I think the same way about moving bags of cement I also do it slow your body gets used to the load to the shoulder rushing it will cause injury in the long term

  • @ArthurSavage
    @ArthurSavage 2 місяці тому

    This is the kind of video I want to see on this channel.

  • @lulzywizard7576
    @lulzywizard7576 2 місяці тому +2

    I need to get back to it, but 3-5 reps at near fail for most exercises, i was MOVING thru weights when i was a beginner. Literally doubled what i could row or what i could put overhead in a month. It's crazy how fast strength changes in the early days.

  • @Vicente_Lopes_Senger
    @Vicente_Lopes_Senger 2 місяці тому

    Very good information. Thanks. I was doing 7, moving to 5 after watching this.

  • @kodepop
    @kodepop 2 місяці тому

    I've always done 4x10's, but I've been wanting to try something for awhile and this kind of solidified that I should go for it. Thanks Hoop!

  • @ScotB-j7o
    @ScotB-j7o 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for putting out content often. These are great!

    • @LadyMuck05
      @LadyMuck05 2 місяці тому

      Dude, buy the access, it's got all the things!

  • @poggy2277
    @poggy2277 Місяць тому

    Just found you and subscribed. Great information!

  • @LEWISMACKINNON
    @LEWISMACKINNON 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for all the videos you post Mitchell. I definitely put on size and strength much faster with 1-5 rep range. Squat, overhead and deadlift i use 1-5 rep range, accessories i use 6-12 rep range.

  • @MrSHOT321
    @MrSHOT321 2 місяці тому +4

    love these videos man

  • @jox27
    @jox27 2 місяці тому +1

    4:00 think about tendons, cartilage and ligaments also. You will need them when you get old ;)

  • @IanMcElmurry
    @IanMcElmurry 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for making this! It was helpful. God Bless

  • @James-dg6xe
    @James-dg6xe 2 місяці тому

    Great video, thanks for the upload.

  • @DavidVirtanen
    @DavidVirtanen 2 місяці тому +1

    Great Video Mitchell I Love It Tysm ❤️❤️❤️💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @maddockemerson4603
    @maddockemerson4603 2 місяці тому +2

    I tried quite a few different styles of training while getting back into fitness this year, undecided on whether I cared most about bodybuilding or strength or health; but by far the worst experience was the extreme slow low-weight/high-rep approach. It works, physically, but I hate it. I gave up from mental exhaustion long before it felt like my muscles had reached their limit. Been doing 5reps or less ever since, so much better. Only downside is I might need to get an actual gym membership since I don't think I can progress with gear that'll fit in my current living space.

    • @cynicist8114
      @cynicist8114 Місяць тому

      I'm with you. If I can make a recommendation, get kettlebells, a parallel bar, a dip belt, and Duonamic's handle bars (like a pull-up bar but gentle on door frames). I'm currently doing weighted dips, weighted pullups, and many other exercises at home. There's also the X3 bar, which is an amazing resistance band + bar + plate system that lets you do squats, deadlifts, and other compound movements without the risk to your joints or heavy weight. It's not cheap to get equipment like that, but I love the freedom of being able to lift whenever I want and not have to drive anywhere or be dependent on a gym. Especially after what happened in 2020.

    • @maddockemerson4603
      @maddockemerson4603 Місяць тому

      @@cynicist8114 I appreciate the recommendations, but I've already starting trialing gyms in my area. Deadlifts with actual weight on a bar feels good, and I'm living out of basically one bedroom, one bathroom and my car right now, and having a subscription can make one more likely to make good use of it whereas purchases (which I generally prefer otherwise) might just sit on your shelf for years.. I'll try to keep this comment in mind in the unlikely event of a new pandemic. Already have kettlebells, dumbbells and a pullup bar.

  • @CubanSauce
    @CubanSauce Місяць тому +1

    I don’t know if I agree with this. High reps is a good way to shock your system which causes growth. I’m talking about 15 reps though.

  • @gingergorilla7001
    @gingergorilla7001 2 місяці тому

    Mitch always great information, always helpful and next level. I agree with this video. If that means anything. You are currently in the process of doing things no one else is or has done and to ignore your experience and education would be idiotic. All the other athletes are changing how they train because of what you have brought to strongman. Your great keep up the awesome work.

  • @joelpineda2042
    @joelpineda2042 Місяць тому +1

    It will definitely kill ur strength gains but for hypertrophy it will do wonders especially if u create hard tension. I personally never do anything under 15 reps. And squats I go up to 50 reps. Sure I'm not that strong but if ur goal is hypertrophy. High reps with tension is the way to go.

    • @ObsidianArrowYT
      @ObsidianArrowYT 18 днів тому

      People don’t understand that there is training for strength vs training for size and for some reason think that a certain rep range will do both

  • @coachp1389
    @coachp1389 Місяць тому +1

    I try to train for strength first, then volume directly after.. seems to be working so far..

  • @stormrhode2330
    @stormrhode2330 2 місяці тому

    I love strength workouts. But I haven't been able to make it to the gym due to family challenges for a couple weeks. So today's an at-home very high volume workout. 😂
    I like to throw in high volume, all-day workouts once or twice a month. I find it's good to push that strength endurance and hone the tendons. It's also a different type of mental discipline. I'm about halfway through and I don't want to keep going, but I'll feel great when I finish it.
    There's a time for high weight and low reps, but there's a time and value for the inverse, too.

  • @PETE2496
    @PETE2496 2 місяці тому

    Great informative video, a lot of which I knew how to train for strength or asthetics but not strictly why…..My question is could you do a video on ‘Powerbuilding’, a concept I follow after watching Mike O’Hearn videos, is there sense in training both or should they be programmed seperate? I’m 47 and trying to stay strong with quality muscle and tendons but also look good?? I do mainly bro splits but start my body part training with compound sets and low volume for that body part for the day, then move on to accessories 10-15 reps for more time under tension!?…..Keep up the great work Mitch!! 👍

  • @jonathancollins22
    @jonathancollins22 Місяць тому

    Great video with a lot of good points!
    However, something should be said for the dudes who are alway peaking and never taking the time to build hypertrophy and wondering why they are plateaued. You have to build muscle to get stronger!!

  • @pellezackrisson5320
    @pellezackrisson5320 2 місяці тому +5

    From what I understand it is not possible to convert type IIa to type IIx through training.
    Only thing that will do this is rest.
    Low reps will increase amount of type IIa.

  • @Cody_JY
    @Cody_JY 2 місяці тому

    Started typing this before you addressed this at the end but I'll leave it here.............. I agree with everything for someone past 2 year of lifting, but I would say the earlier you are into your strength journey the better high reps are, I agree that lifting heavy for low reps is a skill but also the movements themselves are a skill so if you are coming into the gym without experience it would be better to get more repetitions so your body gets more used to that movement, as time goes on and you become an intermediate lifter then your body should be used to the movements enough where lower reps are going to be more beneficial if your goal is strength. Obviously you do not want to go straight from high reps to a 1rm but as time goes on I think beginners should slowly transition from sets of 8-10 to 6-7 down to low reps eventually. Also, beginner lifters aren't strong enough to injur themselves yet so i dont think the injury point for high reps would apply. So I'd say "high reps are killing your strength gains" doesn't apply to atleast 1/3rd of the viewers

  • @mangmiketeamtaiaha7256
    @mangmiketeamtaiaha7256 2 місяці тому

    Dear Mr Hooper, could you talk about power Twisters and your thoughts on them please. What you believe they train muscle tendon bone etc. I never hear anything about this subject, I've seen you using it on youtube once. Hope to hear from you and kindest regards

  • @RaymondOllivier-sh4rz
    @RaymondOllivier-sh4rz 2 місяці тому +1

    I mean this makes sense and parallels personal experience. Something I'm curious about, why do so many strength programs use AMRAPs? There are numerous powerlifting programs where you're literally prescribed an AMRAP every workout, notably where a lot of strength lifters start: 5/3/1.

  • @heathen_7
    @heathen_7 2 місяці тому

    Completely agree, great overall take!

  • @leightontherealtor
    @leightontherealtor 2 місяці тому +1

    Is there ever a time a strength athlete would do higher reps? And what are the reasons. Also could you do a video on what a strength program would look like from block to block? Thanks!

    • @kaori-3882
      @kaori-3882 2 місяці тому +1

      Check out Martins Licis's video about ligament strength with high reps.
      Search for the title: "Martins Licis talks ligament strength and staying INJURY FREE"

  • @RSMegaMillions
    @RSMegaMillions 2 місяці тому +5

    Idk doing 1 min triceps on cables got me over my 365 plateau on bench

    • @Daniel-qr4cs
      @Daniel-qr4cs 2 місяці тому +3

      I only got stronger by adding reps

    • @seamusmcinnes2678
      @seamusmcinnes2678 2 місяці тому

      He's talking compound movements for primarily strongman/strength. Let's see your 365+ bench. Post a video.

    • @SouthAlphaSigma_
      @SouthAlphaSigma_ Місяць тому

      I agree. It all continues to the Same goal, in the end. Volume and growth can fuel strength later.

  • @DLC88
    @DLC88 2 місяці тому +1

    And next week it will be 'log champion Mitchel hooper here'

  • @aschlenker23
    @aschlenker23 2 місяці тому

    Really enjoy the educational videos

  • @Sevensliders
    @Sevensliders Місяць тому

    531 for compounds, 3 sets of 8-10 for accessories. Worked well for me.

  • @zackarytheriault2584
    @zackarytheriault2584 2 місяці тому

    Great vid Mitch! Quick question for ya :
    I train strength for Arm Wrestling, therefore the movements where I want to be stronger are a lot shorter than a squat or deadlift. A wrist curl is an exemple. Each rep being shorter, should the rep range that I do for strength be a little higher or should I stick to the traditional 1-6 ?

  • @rexfordhazelton7601
    @rexfordhazelton7601 2 місяці тому

    This video was interesting. The classic volume argument. It only makes sense to push the limits of strength you need to lift near your max, you cannot lift high reps near your max. So low repetitions are not so much a choice for strength gain as much as a natural limit if you are using the proper load.

  • @MrPoilleke
    @MrPoilleke 2 місяці тому

    Well you know...i have been a Les Mills, BodyPump instructor for 10 years. Doing this with rather large charges got me stronger in weightlifting, since my classes train the white muscle cells..stronger and more enduring during trainings, so both are compatible...cheers

  • @arttimm9153
    @arttimm9153 2 місяці тому +1

    Contrary to popular opinion - older people are volume sensitive and intensity dependent. Meaning high reps are hard on old tendons and ligaments and low reps - meaning more weight - are necessary to build or even maintain strength as we age.

    • @kaori-3882
      @kaori-3882 2 місяці тому +1

      Interesting, I would like to learn more about this, can you recommend any links for more information?

    • @matteocicaloni
      @matteocicaloni Місяць тому

      Not true

  • @kahlaaja
    @kahlaaja Місяць тому

    In cars, no need to fetch the reference from farther than showcars vs track builds. :D Showcars have typically big engine upgrades, minimal ground clearance and details (like spoiler size, wheel angles etc) dictated heavily by the style/looks. Track builds can appeal be very boring to the showcar owners, but even lower power track builds may out-perform showcars simply by being balanced. Showcar main problems are: suspension performance, brakes not upgraded/their performance after a while in heavy use, engine cooling systems performance not upgraded to meet demands of sustained high power output. Wanna see the difference: Misha Charoudin yt-channel has a lot of different cars driven on track - with this explanation you surely can spot the extremes :)

  • @TowhomdoIoweexcess
    @TowhomdoIoweexcess 2 місяці тому

    I wholly agree above or close to ten reps will have technical failures and breaking of pacing, while I view about in the middle- around 5-8 reps is more technically challenging and can reach closer to 75% of orm, the closer you get to five reps up the weight instead and keep the reps around 5 and below to build maximal strength but injury propensity will always be much higher, slowly working through each rep is extremely important at low ranges- and staying around 8-12 range is better for people switching from bodybuilding to strength, and I’d give it two to five years for the tendons to adapt depending on lifestyle and recovery time, then you can switch over more to strength training, 5-8 rep range

  • @Bevzthejcs
    @Bevzthejcs 2 місяці тому

    For compound i stick fairly close to the old 5x5 which works well for me but for accessory i absolutely get more results with higher reps/sets with manageable weight.

  • @saqibrahman4801
    @saqibrahman4801 2 місяці тому

    Excellent tutorial

  • @jababijamovi5088
    @jababijamovi5088 2 місяці тому +1

    Okay what about a beginner?
    Shouldnt they focus first on high reps so their muscles,joins and tendons grow slowly and safely witu good form rather than going day 1 in gym and focusing on 1-3 reps 1RM.?

  • @JonathanSigwart
    @JonathanSigwart Місяць тому

    So what rep range are we talking about

  • @rogerbartley2225
    @rogerbartley2225 2 місяці тому

    There's one muscle you can 100% Flex at will, it's the only muscle attached to bone at just one end 🙂Great video, learned a lot, very informative.

  • @Hybridknfgrowchannel
    @Hybridknfgrowchannel 2 місяці тому +2

    Worked for hall kaz and big Z.

  • @aaronwilson4258
    @aaronwilson4258 2 місяці тому +2

    What should I do if I max out the available weights? My gym is pretty lame and only has dumbbells up to 95lbs. That's way too low for me so I use one of the machines that goes up to 105lbs and do that for 6-7 sets of 10-15 reps. I sometimes use the preacher curl machine at 130lbs with one arm, but the shape of the bar makes lifting it feel weird, so I avoid doing it. I'm trying to get my strict/preacher curl up to 400 lbs, but it's hard because I can only increase the number of reps I do, not the amount of weight I'm lifting.
    Any advice?

  • @adamkamp123
    @adamkamp123 Місяць тому

    Which type of training do you recommend for boxers to maximize endurance and power?

  • @michaelwells8412
    @michaelwells8412 2 місяці тому +1

    I workout how you say however, You recommended higher reps for the kickboxer you collaborate with? If I would rather be able to do Ninja Warrior than strong man, wouldn't higher reps be a good accessory?

  • @henrykjohn78
    @henrykjohn78 2 місяці тому

    Could you do a video on conjugate, speed work for power development and the dynamic effort method?

  • @deadwhilelifting4720
    @deadwhilelifting4720 2 місяці тому

    Hello hooper It may sound weird but did the nerv system when you hit heavy bench is the same as when you use other muscle group heavy like deadlift?

  • @simeoncollins3412
    @simeoncollins3412 2 місяці тому

    How does accessory work fit into this? If you take machine and isolation exercise close to failure after your specific strength work is your strength development negatively impacted?
    Absolutely dope channel btw

  • @kappaferret6052
    @kappaferret6052 2 місяці тому +3

    Mitchell- will you do some kind of special video for 500k subscribers? Idk, maybe 500 pound deadlift for 50 reps?

    • @kavishU0902
      @kavishU0902 2 місяці тому +2

      That sounds like an insanely horrible time

    • @codyschnuriger6743
      @codyschnuriger6743 2 місяці тому +1

      500kg deadlift for 500K

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 2 місяці тому

      ​@@kavishU0902Nick best did 24 or something reps with 500+ lbs.

    • @ThyFinalPain
      @ThyFinalPain 2 місяці тому +1

      That equals 1330 pound 1 rep max or 602Kg. Sounds reasonable.

    • @kavishU0902
      @kavishU0902 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ThyFinalPain tbf 1 rep max calculators are less accurate in higher rep ranges at 50 reps its not even close to accurate anymore

  • @seanwhitehall4652
    @seanwhitehall4652 2 місяці тому

    16:30 once I was really busy and figured I had 15-30min to get a workout.
    Warmed up , did 4x20 deadlift, felt like I'd been there for hours and was sore for days :)

  • @kristopherwalhof3660
    @kristopherwalhof3660 2 місяці тому

    How would you recommend strengthening ligaments/tendons? Some (e.g. Louie Simmons) recommend high, fast reps with low weight. Others recommend the opposite, like super slow negative movements...
    In general, in addition to lifting heavy in the compound movements, I have been following Simmons in doing high, light, fast reps in single joint exercises (e.g. hamstring curl, tricep extensions). So far, so good...

  • @kurtwuttke5787
    @kurtwuttke5787 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey bro love the content but you look at the top power lifters in the world they work with sets of 20 sets of 15 and sets of 10 for their accessory work. But also when they start a program it’s all higher reps until about mid way through a program. People like Eric lilliebridge who have squatted 1060 and deadlifted 930

  • @T12J7
    @T12J7 2 місяці тому +1

    Can you do a video on static strength development, like training for the rolling thunder or arm wrestling?

  • @SeeScottWrite
    @SeeScottWrite 2 місяці тому +6

    As a car guy, the analogy was spot on… muscle cars (show body builders) looks nice but can’t possibly perform at the same level as a sports car (athlete).

  • @totallyraw1313
    @totallyraw1313 2 місяці тому

    So Mitch, are you against the DYessis 1 x 20 program?

  • @mrr0cksor669
    @mrr0cksor669 Місяць тому +1

    I hate it when the one percent that get´s thrue that training without fucking their body up tells a normal dude that this is the way to go. Lifting heavy with low reps will get 99% of the normal gym folk hurt. It is not streanght vs size for us it is health vs bullshit for us!

  • @poolman20001
    @poolman20001 2 місяці тому

    I have a question kind sir, or anyone who knows.but first a comment.
    I love to lift for strength. For the bench for instance. I warm up. Then aim for between three and single rep ranges until I hit my PR. I'm a pretty string guy. 180lbs and can bench 375.
    But then, after I hit my one rep max. I will go into two sets for volume. Usually 275 for as many as I can hit, usually 12. Then I will burn out with 225, usually for 20 reps, or more.
    Mt theory is that I'm first aiming for strength and then size. Is this approach not good?
    What are the up sides to it? Down sides? Would I be much stronger if I only focus on low rep ranges? Or can both styles compliment each other?
    Also, because I usually fry my chest like this, I do take about 4 or 5 days to fully recover.
    I'm 48 years old, I'm 180lbs and never had a problem with using both low and high rep ranges.
    Thoughts anyone?

  • @MrMegatherium
    @MrMegatherium 2 місяці тому

    I started a new program, I call it the 1000 rep program. For example, I do 1000 bar curls for bicep. I do 20 sets of 50 reps. It takes about an hour. It definitely stimulates growth, I have grown so much from it. But my strength is not very good though. But it is sustainable in the long run. Stimulate- don't destroy. You have to think about your tendons, joints in the long run. Heavy weights over time wear down the body, and eventually it breaks.

    • @MR12AMAZING
      @MR12AMAZING 2 місяці тому

      Training extremely high reps like you do also wears out your tendons. They actually wear out your tendons significantly quicker than high weight low reps.

    • @MrMegatherium
      @MrMegatherium 2 місяці тому

      @@MR12AMAZING no way man, I do 1000 curls with the 25lb bar, 20 sets of 50. Tendons are way better than when I used heavy. Ask the guys who have wrecked shoulders, ect.

  • @rogermayne3372
    @rogermayne3372 5 днів тому

    best explanation i've seen since i saw Platz in seminar explaining how cavemen bodies worked and how we still have the same bodies.

  • @swxqt6826
    @swxqt6826 2 місяці тому

    I can definitely attest to this. I used to do 10 pull-ups at a time many times per day (I’d usually end up with around 80 by the end of the day). It made me freakishly strong on the lat pulldown, except, months later, I hadn’t improved at all. It was honestly a waste of time.

  • @nunyabidness69
    @nunyabidness69 2 місяці тому +1

    When I do sets of 5, my joints ache. When I do sets of 8, they don't. I'll stick with sets of 8.

  • @Galjamakarova6ks2b-wx1ed
    @Galjamakarova6ks2b-wx1ed 2 місяці тому +22

    Honestly, this video brightened my mood!

  • @RE4L72
    @RE4L72 Місяць тому

    For me it depends on the muscle or exercise

  • @paulsren5800
    @paulsren5800 2 місяці тому

    As a non native speaker the difference between strength and power in a muscle building context always kinda confused me, but you managed to explain is just right :) Thank you
    Would you say a group a group that benefits most of power would be e.g. a full body contact athlete? Like a rugby-, football-player or fighter?

  • @andrewtanczyk4009
    @andrewtanczyk4009 2 місяці тому +1

    So is periodization dangerous? I wasn’t aware of the clear differences between powerlifters and bodybuilders in regards to the dangers of bodybuilders lifting heavier weights. Is this with the differences from sarcoplasmic and myfibrular muscle strands?

    • @andrewtanczyk4009
      @andrewtanczyk4009 2 місяці тому +1

      Excuse my ignorance in regards to the intricacies of weightlifting. Just been lifting for about 2 years now.

    • @justinly6237
      @justinly6237 2 місяці тому

      Not dangerous.
      It's safer as a properly periodized program will have you slowly work your way into heavier loads, giving your soft tissue more time to adapt to handling those loads.

  • @wompastompa3692
    @wompastompa3692 2 місяці тому

    I like doing a mix if for no other reason than the bro-science of high reps to build mass and low reps to build strength.

  • @Hardcoredadof3
    @Hardcoredadof3 2 місяці тому

    Why do I feel sick every day after I dead lift?

  • @frankwiseler4308
    @frankwiseler4308 2 місяці тому

    So if I would lift for a team sport - Basketball, Hockey, etc. - I should rather work in the higher volumes range in order to move my fast twitch muscles into the type 2A range?