Lisa killing John Arryn is a huge deal and basically the biggest plot twist ever. Littlefinger planned it all: Kill John Arryn and tell the Starks it was the Lannisters => Ned comes to the capital, because he is the kings best friend and the logical replacement. Littlefinger knew about the Incest, so he gave Ned little hints to keep him there and slowly start a war (chaos is a ladder) whilest he had all the players, Starks and Lannisters, in Kingslanding where he was the most important person, because he controlls the city watch. He is the evil mastermind of the story we have seen so far.
He said right from the start in that brothel scene " I learned that I'll never win. That's their game. Their rules. I'm not going to fight them. I'm going to Fuck them" I like Baelish
You know what I love? How Bran, the boy who Jaime crippled in season 1, has inadvertently avenged Jaime by killing Locke, the man who cut off Jaime's hand. Interesting, huh?
@@Slaskhask cut apart limb by limb over a couple of weeks all while being kept alive by the Mountain, Vargo and his crew deserved their violent deaths.
"Did he have to strike her like that?" You guys realize Arya flat out just tried to kill him right? As far as the Hound is concerned that was a slap on the wrist, remember what kinds of things the Hound does to anyone else who tries to kill him.
I mean, she wants to get in fights and kill people, she's got to be prepared. That also includes bruising. Being a little girl is not going to make things easier. When I look at it sitting in my living room, obviously my brains like, "no! That's so wrong!" When I think of it from that timeperiod, that's exactly what she needs. Even without the attempting to kill him part. She needs to feel what the bruises are going to feel like on her body, and how to fight through that pain. She needs to know how to protect herself from those kind of attacks. Being a little girl is the most dangerous thing that she could be and she needs to protect herself. Which also includes being taught not to be so hot-headed and impulsive. Which is ironic that it's the Hound teaching her that because he's very hot headed.
Yup, that was a sneak attack by Arya that would have killed him if he hadn't been wearing armour - in a court of law even today, it would be clear he used reasonable force to defend himself... ;)
In essence it's revealed in this episode that Littlefinger had a big role in starting the events that caused the War of the Five Kings. He's one of the biggest manipulating psychopaths on Game of Thrones and that's saying a lot since there are a lot to choose from. He practically turned the Lannisters and the Starks against each other.
+SirBullet754 Wtf? Yes he is power hungry, learned to manipulate other people and acting without morals. but where the fuck is he a psychopath? Lysa is one. But tell me what scene shows that littlefinger is a psychopath!?
Not practically, but rather - actually, with fully intention. Remember chaos is a ladder, and that is Peter's means to his ends. Oh and Drygin Baelish, he is a psycho, has repealed it spreads in numerous ways - and only a delusional psycho wouldn't see it...or would deny it
+Snoop Bogg nearly all people have extreme skills of manipulation. Tywin, Cersei, Tyrion, Varys, Margary and he has empathy. he had it for caitlyn. he really loved her. There where he was weak and not rational.
Mace Tyrell (Margaery's father) is the third judge. That is one reason Cersei was kind to Margaery. And the fact, that the Crown is 6 million in debt. The Tyrells are the second rich family in Westeros.
Well technically the Tyrells are the richest family in the 7 kingdoms because the Lannisters gold mind have run try and they are in debt. The Lannisters have to depend on the Tyrells for the financial benefits.
@@kadeembarrett9735 okay nevermind I'm dumb. If you saw what was here originally, ignore it. I wasn't being a dick I was just trying to make sure that it was already said and not in the future episode. Then I did my homework. I'm dumb lol
@Alexander (Nikki said she wants to read them, that's why I'm being very cryptic about this one thing. I'm sure people have already ruined it, but I won't contribute) I think because this is the season where the books and the show really start to divert from each other for the first time, they had to add in a different type of conflict for the Lannister's than what is possibly going to happen in the books. Because the show did not go that way, and we aren't entirely sure how that way is going to go in the books anyway, I think they needed to add some sort of other obstacle in their way. Finances are the easiest way to go. Especially when you're not doing nearly as in-depth or amazing of a story. Full shade. Lol, this is actually one of my least favorite seasons.
So remember - there was high security at the royal wedding. The entire point of the poison necklace was to smuggle the poison in in such a way that if it was discovered, Sansa would be the one arrested.
Plus, it made easier for Littlefinger to make Sansa dependent on him since the crown is looking for her. She doesn't have anywhere to go except stay with him because that damn necklace frames her.
I think the original plan was to get her out of their, the only reason Tyrion was blamed was because he was the one holding the cup and because Tywin and Cerci hate Tyrion. If someone else was holding the cup they would have thought that person did it.
No, there was no relevant security. Nobody strip searched Lady Oleanna, nor was anyone going to. If they were searching everyone for tiny poison containers nobody checked Sansa's necklace despite her having more known reasons to kill him than anyone could have thought Oleana had. For that matter, Oleanna killing him after the wedding but before it was consumated doesn't make any sense from any angle. The wedding was allowed to happen then the marriage was effectively anulled. It's a ridiculous crime. Also, regarding security, the necklace guy walks from a boat up to the table to get Sansa and leaves with her without any guards noticing. There was litterally no security. Not one single guard behind the tables. Not one single guard watching the access to the table area from the sea. Not one single guard looking at the guests after the king collapses to see what folks are up to, like leaving the scene. It is just a mistake in writing, that's all. These stories are written by human beings who are capable of error.
@@chrisf5828 IMO Olenna killing Joffrey at the feast makes perfect sense. Margery was legitimately wed to a king, but because the marriage is unconsummated, she remains a viable candidate for another royal (or noble) marriage. Same thing occured with Renly, who's homosexuality was an open secret. Margery's claim that her 1st marriage remained unconsummated is credible, thus she is an acceptable bride for Joffrey. In this patriarchal world, Joffrey dying between the vows & bedding is the best possible outcome for Margery and the Tyrells - all the benefits of marriage to a king without the attendant baggage. Doing it this way also insures Margery's physical safety; no chance Joffrey injures or impregnates her on the wedding night.
The Hound was teaching Arya a valuable lesson. If you attack someone and you are unprepared and weak, you die. Attacking someone with a big thick armour and a big sword with Needle was dumb. If she did that to a real enemy, he could have killed her easily. The real world is not a game, in a swordfight you win or you die: there's no middle ground.
The actor that plays Tommen, also played a Lannister in the series, he was one of the two kids murdered by the Karstarks in S03 E03, and that ended in Robb beheading Lord Karstark.
The tragedy of Dontos - the 'drunk' - is that he was the last living member of the house of the lords of Duskendale. He only lived as long as he did because Barristan Selmy asked the Mad King to spare the child. They don't reveal this in the show, but the lords of Duskendale kidnapped the King and tortured him for months, perhaps even with sexual violence from the Lady of the hold. When Tywin rescued him the king had lost his mind and they had all but Dontos put to death. Littlefinger could trust him to complete the plot because Dontos had absolutely no one to turn to since Selmy fled. He killed Dontos because Dontos finally had something of real value to buy his way out with: information.
The Littlefinger/Lysa love triangle drama goes way back. Littlefinger squired under Hoster Tully and fell in love with his daughter Catelyn, while his other daughter Lysa fell in love with him. When Catelyn was engaged to Brandon Stark (Ned's brother) Littlefinger challenged him to a duel and got knocked in the dirt. Obviously Lysa was not happy with this display of affection. Then Brandon and his father died in the drama that set off the rebellion, so to forge alliances Catelyn married Ned, and Lysa married Jon Arryn. So it was easy for Littlefinger to use Lysa's love for him to get her to poison her husband, and she didn't help the Starks even when Catelyn asked because she was still jealous. That's why she thinks Littlefinger is sleeping with Sansa, because she's Catelyn's daughter (and she looks like her -- both Tully sisters and Sansa have red hair).
Margaery is basically waving her power in Cersei's face. She knows the Lannisters need this alliance. The Tyrells are the second richest family in Westeros. For Margaery to become Queen is something they need so they can join their houses and their power against the Crown's enemies. That's why Margaery is fearlessly taunting Cersei by calling her sister or mother. She knows her power here.
The Hound struck Arya, because she had literally just tried to run him through with her sword, haha. And yes, Cersei was just trying to manipulate the judges in Tyrion's trial.
Being called "mother" by a younger more beautiful woman who is conniving to get her claws into your son, is different to being the mother of hatched dragons, yes, they are her babies. but its a different feeling:)
Robert Selagon Me to 90% of the stuff Cersei says: “Well, she’s not wrong...” Sure some people on this show are more noble than others, but it’s hard to hate a lot of these people when a lot of their motivations are understandable. Also interesting that Cersei and Arya have completely different approaches to sexism in Westeros.
“You know nothing Steve Snow” No one as high class as Sansa would wear broken jewelry, much less to a huge event for a psycho, who would see it as huge disrespect if he noticed (which he wouldn’t, but Cersei would)
As a British person myself, I love hearing Americans attempt to put on a British accent. They might never manage it, but it's funny to listen to them try.
tunderdiamant The reason why people hate so much on Sansa is because she is a slow learner like them she reminds them of themselves ! That's my theory anyway.
I mean i'm sure half or the people that don't like is mostly because she was responsible of Ned's death which is a stupid reason ^^ But yeah Sansa is the most human of the starks which is probably why people don't like her.. she's not "badass" enough...
well, I think they said she is 14, or 15.. she is starting to learn the world is not what she thought it was going to be, and people can be stunningly cruel. And slowly learning its not just one or two people who are not who they say they are.
If Bran blabbed about what he saw, Robert would've killed Jamie&Cersei and their three children. It was a tough choice but he had to do what he had to do. Doesn't make him evil
What does Jamie pushing bran out the window have to do with Jon arryn's death? Someone explain that to me and why it's relevant to this discussion? Why would bran being pushed out of the window have anything to do with the Lannisters innocence in the nonsense of Jon Arryn's death? Seeing as though comment is about the Lannisters innocence in the nonsense of John Arryn's death, I'm not sure what it has to do with Jamie pushing bran out of the window. The original poster should not have to write an essay over explaining everything. We're discussing the Lannisters involvement with John Arryn's death in this entire comment section, not just the replies to this comment. Jamie pushing bran out of the window literally has nothing to do with the Lannisters not being responsible for Jon Aaron's death. It is not relevant to the conversation. What you guys want to do is be upset about something so you found it. Because Op did not write out a bunch of words explaining things that we are all not talking about, you guys got offended. Read between the lines for once. Saying that the Lannisters are innocent of this one thing does not mean that they are innocent of anything else. There's no way it could be interpreted that way unless you want to be upset about something.
This episode has one of the biggest reveals in the series. The entire story's narrative was started by Littlefinger and his manipulation of Lysa for his ultimate revenge for being disfigured and embarrassed by the hands of the Starks. Specifically, Ned's older brother Brandon.
There was a second reveal to Lysa's conversation with Little Finger, watch it again when you get the chance. Basically Little Finger is the one that set everything in motion to start the War of the Five Kings. In the books it is implied that he encouraged Joffrey to defy this mother and ask for Ned Stark's head.
Zac Baratheon not adopted but fostered, it was common in the medieval times that got is based on for the sons of lords to be fostered to another lord for a time to learn from him, especially if he had more resources. Remember that Ned was the younger son at the point of his fostering, so the idea was for him to find a place in the world as a warrior as he was not supposed to become lord of winterfell. Think of it as like going away to boarding school or college.
Furious Magpie: It worked in that respect as well. Robert's rebellion started when Aerys the mad king demanded that Jon Arryn execute Ned and Robert and send him their heads. He refused and became the first great lord to rebel against the crown, immediately 3 of the great houses were in open rebellion. Jon was also the man most responsible for maintaining peace in the realm after Robert won the throne, he worked hard to placate the Dornish and talked them around (Oberyn tried to continue the war after King's Landing fell; he wanted to crown Viserys).
13:22 To be fair she _did_ just try to kill him... (she didn't stand a chance and failed miserably, sure, but _the intention_ was _definitely_ there...)
You guys' discussion in the beginning reminds me of the differences of opinions book fans have over different perceptions they have over the same event or situation 😂 it's crazy some of the things people will go back and forth over. For years now 😂
That entire pre-episode discussion was so textbook guy/girl "you were right, but I wasn't wrong" pure comedy. I was laughing and laughing and at about 2:57 I realized I was humming "Let It Go"! LOL!
I'm so glad I found this channel. It's been the best way for me to rehash all these episodes that I haven't seen in years! Special shoutout to Nikki's eyerolls! Y'all rock.
My Dad taught me never hit a girl, my mother taught me; if the girl is big enough to throw a punch at you, she's big enough to take a hit, as long as I didn't strike first. A girl was beating up a friend, I stepped in and I didn't strike back and felt embarrassed later, when my mom got home and saw my face, is when she gave me that lesson. Arya was foolish enough to do that ;she's old enough to take a hit. Sandor was quite measured.
@@The80sWolf_ "they"? are women another species to you now? Why would equality make it ok to hit women? For one thing, it's not ok for people to hit anyone. It's not ok for men to hit men. I agree if someone hits you first you can retaliate, but in general equality shouldn't automatically mean 'I can hit every woman I want' and if the first thing you think when people bring up equality is 'Great! Now I can go around punching women' then something is wrong with you. I know this is kind of off topic for a Game of Thrones thread, but I hate how people equate equality between the sexes with being allowed to expend violence at every turn. Arya, in this instance, deserved retaliation for her actions, because of her actions. But she doesn't deserve automatic violence because she's a woman/girl who wants equal treatment. The person who throws the first punch in anything other than self defense is almost universally seen as the asshole, no matter who the recipient is. If you hit women just because you can (and apparently want to), makes you an asshole.
Sorry, Steven but it doesn't make any sense. Littlefinger said something like: you didn't notice something missing. The only way she could notice that jewel was missing is if she saw it intact. If the jewel wasn't there in the first place how could she know that there was jewel there before? 😉😂
it's pretty obvious when you buy a necklace brand new and you notice there is a jewel missing... and steven actually does make sense in that if they did have a different way to get the jewel into the party they would still need to put the necklace on sansa AND have her wear it to the party in order to frame her for it. where steven doesnt make sense is why would they arrange a different way to smuggle it in and risk getting caught when they could just use sansa to get it in and take the jewel off later. this is where I dont really get the "high security"... sansa has the most reason to kill joffrey... why wouldn't she be the most patted down and watched person there?
i also don't understand why LF would tell sansa about the necklace... if she's smart she would realize she was used and that they intended to frame her if it went to shit... why would you even need to tell sansa about the necklace and risk her understanding that? he could have just said yes, I killed Joffrey and I'm setting you free... let's go.
@@@digitalthunder9927 - Probably for the same reason he told her the story of the Mountain and Hound when he 1st met her at the joust tournament. He's gambling, but by sharing these damning secrets with Sansa, he's establishing a mutually assured fate for the both of them. He set this whole mess in motion and pegged Sansa from the start as someone easy to manipulate, and assessed her value to him from very early on + he's a pervert. He's gaining her trust by seemingly putting his fate in her hands, when really, it's quite the opposite. He's had his hooks into her from day 1... such a creep.
One of the things I always love about this episode and the earlier one with the renegade crows is their leader, the nasty one with the daggers. The actor is Burn Gorman, who I know well from Torchwood. He was also outstanding in the latest remake of Agatha Christie's 'And Then There Were None'. Fantastic underrated actor.
This series is just amazing, and the reveal that Lord Petyr Baelish/Little Finger was behind everything from the start is such a mind blowing curveball. He is the reason Jon Arryn died, he is the reason the Starks were told that the Lannisters were behind it, he was the one who betrayed Ned, he was the one who got Joffrey killed.... every step of the way he was behind the curtain pulling the strings. Kind of impressive, even if he is a self serving piece of sh*t, lmao.
@23:48: note the weird karma wheel turn here: Bran in Hodor’s skin killed Locke, who maimed Jaime, who pushed Bran out of the window, which strangely led him on this quest for the 3-Eyed Raven.
Also, Cersei is being honest with Oberyn. She does occasionally let her guard down, like in that scene with Tyrion when she started crying and he didn't know how to comfort her.
Petyr Baelish didn't create his own house, he just changed House Baelish's sigil. And "first of his name" is a title for rulers, like Queen Elisabeth "the First" of Britain and King Christian "the Fourth" of Denmark. It doesn't symbolise Petyr Baelish in any way. He wasn't the first Baelish as you imply, and he's not king... The episode title refers to Tommen, who is crowned "King Tommen of the house Baratheon, first of his name" at the beginning of the episode.
The necklace was there to smuggle the poison in, so that Lady Olenna could get the Jewel and put it into Joffrey's cup. If someone would have taken the jewel out of the necklace to give it to Olenna the day before, the whole thing about giving the necklace to Sansa would have no point... exept they wanted to frame her. Or Olenna could have taken a jewel from her own necklace or ring. In fact, if someone had the idea to check all jewelery for poisonous jewels right before the wedding, then Sansa would have been in trouble. And all she could say for her defence would have been, that she got it from Ser Dantos.
Funnysterste True that , still an old necklace with missing stone or two wouldn't really alarm anyone anyway. So Steven had a point . Good explanation tho
All the Starks and their dire wolves...I love it. Ghost is great and I love how he and Jon interact. I remember this episode, I so wanted Jon to see Bran, even if only for a moment. Yeah...Lysa is several shades of messed up.
6:55 The Eyrie might indeed be well-nigh impregnable to conventional armies (though give Bronn ten good men and some climbing spikes...), but it sure made a nice landing spot for dragons back during Aegon's conquest...
Fun Fact: Robin Arryn is supposed to be Robert Arryn. But to reduce the confusion, they named him Robin in the show. Robb Stark and Robert Arryn are both named after Robert Baratheon, as Ned and Robert were both fostered by Jon Arryn at the Eyrie in the Vale. They both loved Robert greatly. There's quite a bit of history there betwen Catelyn, Lysa and Littlefinger. Rewatch those scenes and listen closely.
@Diana Gero Well he did get her pregnant when they were teens but her father made her abort the baby. After that it's fairly possible she had a relationship akin to what Cersei had with king Robert and Jamie.
She should marry Robin. He has the strongest army in Westeros and is simple minded and easily controlled. And the fresh non depleted Vale army would easily be able to retake the north. He is honestly the best marriage in Westeros right now. It astounds me that no family is trying to make an marriage alliance with him.
I really love the moment where they ask Jojen how they'll know the end and it cuts to him staring at his hand on fire... It's both really explicit and in your face and yet symbolic and open to interpretation. Just a really powerful and somehow beautiful shot Also poor Hodor :/ he was so shaken at what he saw/did
The Dontos Necklace diary : It makes sense, it doesn't make sense. It makes total sense, no it doesn't. You were right, right? But my point makes sense. No. Yes it does, it could have happen this way. No. Yes. LOL :)
This is a torture.. I want to see your reactions to all the other episodes right now.. I can wait for season 8 til spring but i canot wait for your resctions! Please find time and upload at least two episodes a day! Greetings from Sweden!
Steven you are so dang lucky to have someone like Nikki. To watch you and her have so much fun while doing this is not common with a lot of couples. Both of you remember this is all for fun so sit back and enjoy it all, even the disagreements. : )
Jon stabbing the fool as Steven called him like that is his answer to what's wrong with honor " nothing is wrong with honor you fool it's how you understand & use it honor" ..
Great episode as always you two! Just want to touch on a few things. I know others in the comments have explained these parts already but I could talk about this show for hours. haha 1. If you remember when they first arrived, Robin Arryn was asking Sansa about Ned, Catelyn and Robb. He asked her if they had died and he then mentioned that his father Jon Arryn was also murdered by the Lannisters. 2. The comments made between Lysa Arryn and Petyr Baelish. Lysa was talking to Petyr and she said roughly, That she (Lysa) was the one who poured poison in her husbands (Jon) wine at Petyr's orders. She then mentions that Petyr was the one who also asked her to send the letter to Catelyn, telling her and Ned that Jon Arryn did not die from getting sick. He died at the hands of the Lannisters. That letter basically started the entire conflict between the Starks and the Lannisters. 3. The scene between Arya and the Hound. I know you guys are very sensitive and protective over Arya but you must remember, she is not a little girl any more. Yes at this point she may only be 12-13 years old but age is different in this time period. 14 year old children bare children and get married and can, as we have seen, also sit on the Iron Throne. Also Arya is arguably eve more of an adult then Sansa is at this point. Her and the hound have a connection. She says he is on her list and that she will kill him one day but that does not mean they don't work well together. She is certainly learning something new about life and fighting and surviving everyday and that is directly because of the Hound/The people she has traveled with. Also if you think about it, she just tried to kill him. A larger sword or a weaker part of his armor and she would have shoved it straight through him. The backhand was more of a, "this is what you get for trying to stab me yet I'm going to give you your sword back anyway". It was a perfect tough love situation and it really will only make her stronger as a person. ------------------------ As always you two are doing an amazing job with your reactions. I cannot wait to see the rest of the season unfold and get to enjoy your reactions along the way. Keep up the amazing work!
When you factor in everything as Nikki says, it does not make sense. Little finger wouldn't point out a missing gem if that gem wasn't playing a part in the poisoning. If it had been missing from the start then this jewel would not be spoken about at all. Yes I concede that it is possible for the jewel to have been missing beforehand and it "makes sense" that it could. However, your point only makes sense when you selectively ignore parts of the story.
I feel like I should be eating popcorn watching you two discuss all the theories surrounding Joffrey's murder. It's SO great! And speaking of great - how about this season? The entirety of season 4 is absolutely, unbelievably EPIC, and you're only halfway there! Keep cranking 'em out, guys!
This is the one episode in season 4 that takes it's foot off the gas. The benefit of being based on the final third of a book makes this season pop off almost every episode. Love it.
I love the names given to the poisons in this series. "The Strangler" -killed Joffrey, "Tears of Lys"- given to Lysa Aaryn to kill her husband. They are all very poetic! Theres more too but its more fun to notice them yourselfs :) great episode
18:40 from where the girl stabs him in the back to where he gets the spear thru his mouth, you were "pulsing" with tenseness nikki...i was fascinated with the camerawork on that after I got over the shock
Hey you two ☺ before I say anything CONGRATULATIONS on 25k subs!!! Well deserved! You guys will be at 50k no doubt by the time this show is over 😊 anyways great reaction as always and see you guys on the next one ! 👍🏼
Ok finally got to watch this and comment. Bran warging into Hodor to kill Locke was awesome. His powers are growing. Also Ghost reuniting with Jon was pretty cool also. Lysa.... nuttier than squirrel turds. Good episode. Y'all take care and have a blessed evening.
The old gods and the new demand GoT episode reactions daily! I'm so early there's not even HD available yet Edit: see, Joffrey is still giving you guys headache even from hell
HolyMaster however, the longer they take, the bigger the risk for spoilers. I've just learned that even other totally non-related shows (The Flash) and even a movie I forgot can spoil things in GoT... not to mention the internet which can do it in many ways.
Don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, since Arrow sucks since season 3 in my opinion =) and I had to drop it But anyway, my point is the night is dark and full of spoilers
Absolutely loved the bloodlust in both of your eyes when you wanted a White Walker or Dire Wolf to destroy that deserter. And instant payoff with Ghost destroying that prick!
"Everything before the word but is horseshit." - Eddard "Ned" Stark, Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North. Next time you argue with Nikki Steve you should remember that.😉
Lisa killing John Arryn is a huge deal and basically the biggest plot twist ever. Littlefinger planned it all: Kill John Arryn and tell the Starks it was the Lannisters => Ned comes to the capital, because he is the kings best friend and the logical replacement. Littlefinger knew about the Incest, so he gave Ned little hints to keep him there and slowly start a war (chaos is a ladder) whilest he had all the players, Starks and Lannisters, in Kingslanding where he was the most important person, because he controlls the city watch. He is the evil mastermind of the story we have seen so far.
Like he said, chaos is a ladder, and so he creates the chaos so he can continue to climb that ladder to the throne.
He said right from the start in that brothel scene
" I learned that I'll never win. That's their game. Their rules. I'm not going to fight them. I'm going to Fuck them"
I like Baelish
chaosh ish a ladda
best comment, in my opinion
You know what I love? How Bran, the boy who Jaime crippled in season 1, has inadvertently avenged Jaime by killing Locke, the man who cut off Jaime's hand. Interesting, huh?
I'd actually never even thought about it. You totally deserve a lemon cake.
I prefer how Jamie's hand chopper got punished in the books. He suffered a far worse fate than almost everyone in both the show and books.
@@Slaskhask cut apart limb by limb over a couple of weeks all while being kept alive by the Mountain, Vargo and his crew deserved their violent deaths.
Eric Santucci
I like that. Notice how the one’s returning the favour to Jaime and Theon (people who hurt the Starks) were the Boltons lol
I remember reading something about that years ago, how strange the circle of justice is in Game of Thrones lol
"Did he have to strike her like that?" You guys realize Arya flat out just tried to kill him right? As far as the Hound is concerned that was a slap on the wrist, remember what kinds of things the Hound does to anyone else who tries to kill him.
A bit of tough love
I mean, she wants to get in fights and kill people, she's got to be prepared. That also includes bruising. Being a little girl is not going to make things easier. When I look at it sitting in my living room, obviously my brains like, "no! That's so wrong!" When I think of it from that timeperiod, that's exactly what she needs. Even without the attempting to kill him part. She needs to feel what the bruises are going to feel like on her body, and how to fight through that pain. She needs to know how to protect herself from those kind of attacks. Being a little girl is the most dangerous thing that she could be and she needs to protect herself. Which also includes being taught not to be so hot-headed and impulsive. Which is ironic that it's the Hound teaching her that because he's very hot headed.
exactly crimson and he even gave her sword back to her
Yup, that was a sneak attack by Arya that would have killed him if he hadn't been wearing armour - in a court of law even today, it would be clear he used reasonable force to defend himself... ;)
Crimson_Tango Lol, I was like, “she just tried to run him through. I’d be a little put out myself!”
In essence it's revealed in this episode that Littlefinger had a big role in starting the events that caused the War of the Five Kings. He's one of the biggest manipulating psychopaths on Game of Thrones and that's saying a lot since there are a lot to choose from. He practically turned the Lannisters and the Starks against each other.
+SirBullet754
Wtf? Yes he is power hungry, learned to manipulate other people and acting without morals. but where the fuck is he a psychopath? Lysa is one. But tell me what scene shows that littlefinger is a psychopath!?
Not practically, but rather - actually, with fully intention. Remember chaos is a ladder, and that is Peter's means to his ends.
Oh and Drygin Baelish, he is a psycho, has repealed it spreads in numerous ways - and only a delusional psycho wouldn't see it...or would deny it
@@LeMansionnaire his total lack of empathy and his extreme skills of manipulation?? What do you not understand
+Thomas Glynn
so u tell me i am a psycho?
Tell me where is the difference between Baelish and Tywin?
+Snoop Bogg
nearly all people have extreme skills of manipulation. Tywin, Cersei, Tyrion, Varys, Margary
and he has empathy. he had it for caitlyn. he really loved her. There where he was weak and not rational.
Mace Tyrell (Margaery's father) is the third judge. That is one reason Cersei was kind to Margaery. And the fact, that the Crown is 6 million in debt. The Tyrells are the second rich family in Westeros.
Well technically the Tyrells are the richest family in the 7 kingdoms because the Lannisters gold mind have run try and they are in debt. The Lannisters have to depend on the Tyrells for the financial benefits.
Kadeem Barrett 👍
@@kadeembarrett9735 okay nevermind I'm dumb. If you saw what was here originally, ignore it. I wasn't being a dick I was just trying to make sure that it was already said and not in the future episode. Then I did my homework. I'm dumb lol
@Alexander (Nikki said she wants to read them, that's why I'm being very cryptic about this one thing. I'm sure people have already ruined it, but I won't contribute) I think because this is the season where the books and the show really start to divert from each other for the first time, they had to add in a different type of conflict for the Lannister's than what is possibly going to happen in the books. Because the show did not go that way, and we aren't entirely sure how that way is going to go in the books anyway, I think they needed to add some sort of other obstacle in their way. Finances are the easiest way to go. Especially when you're not doing nearly as in-depth or amazing of a story. Full shade. Lol, this is actually one of my least favorite seasons.
@Alexander I would love that!
So remember - there was high security at the royal wedding. The entire point of the poison necklace was to smuggle the poison in in such a way that if it was discovered, Sansa would be the one arrested.
Plus, it made easier for Littlefinger to make Sansa dependent on him since the crown is looking for her. She doesn't have anywhere to go except stay with him because that damn necklace frames her.
I think the original plan was to get her out of their, the only reason Tyrion was blamed was because he was the one holding the cup and because Tywin and Cerci hate Tyrion. If someone else was holding the cup they would have thought that person did it.
No, there was no relevant security. Nobody strip searched Lady Oleanna, nor was anyone going to. If they were searching everyone for tiny poison containers nobody checked Sansa's necklace despite her having more known reasons to kill him than anyone could have thought Oleana had. For that matter, Oleanna killing him after the wedding but before it was consumated doesn't make any sense from any angle. The wedding was allowed to happen then the marriage was effectively anulled. It's a ridiculous crime.
Also, regarding security, the necklace guy walks from a boat up to the table to get Sansa and leaves with her without any guards noticing. There was litterally no security. Not one single guard behind the tables. Not one single guard watching the access to the table area from the sea. Not one single guard looking at the guests after the king collapses to see what folks are up to, like leaving the scene.
It is just a mistake in writing, that's all. These stories are written by human beings who are capable of error.
@@chrisf5828 IMO Olenna killing Joffrey at the feast makes perfect sense. Margery was legitimately wed to a king, but because the marriage is unconsummated, she remains a viable candidate for another royal (or noble) marriage. Same thing occured with Renly, who's homosexuality was an open secret. Margery's claim that her 1st marriage remained unconsummated is credible, thus she is an acceptable bride for Joffrey. In this patriarchal world, Joffrey dying between the vows & bedding is the best possible outcome for Margery and the Tyrells - all the benefits of marriage to a king without the attendant baggage. Doing it this way also insures Margery's physical safety; no chance Joffrey injures or impregnates her on the wedding night.
@@chrisf5828 if the marriage would be consumated they would probably not let her marry the next king. So it was all well planned.
The Hound was teaching Arya a valuable lesson. If you attack someone and you are unprepared and weak, you die. Attacking someone with a big thick armour and a big sword with Needle was dumb. If she did that to a real enemy, he could have killed her easily. The real world is not a game, in a swordfight you win or you die: there's no middle ground.
J.F.L. Bousquet Yeah Exactly I couldn’t of put it better myself.
Technically she got off easily. Remember when she was gonna bash him with the rock. At least he didn't break her legs.
Hound did teach Arya even more then Ned.
Cerio taught her without hitting her. It is possible to teach children, even fighting, without intentionally causing them physical pain.
Littlefinger is the one who created this chaos and used it to gain power.
Chaos is a LADDAH!
The climb is all there is
Chaosh ish a laddah
@@mr_niceman yup he gathered his tools, laid out the latter, and now just needs to climb it.
The actor that plays Tommen, also played a Lannister in the series, he was one of the two kids murdered by the Karstarks in S03 E03, and that ended in Robb beheading Lord Karstark.
The third one is Margery’s Dad which is probably why cerci is being nice to her
I'm sorry, but I disagree, Nikki's House words should be "Not the horse".
or "They're All Babies"
or "don't mess with babies" :D
The tragedy of Dontos - the 'drunk' - is that he was the last living member of the house of the lords of Duskendale. He only lived as long as he did because Barristan Selmy asked the Mad King to spare the child. They don't reveal this in the show, but the lords of Duskendale kidnapped the King and tortured him for months, perhaps even with sexual violence from the Lady of the hold. When Tywin rescued him the king had lost his mind and they had all but Dontos put to death. Littlefinger could trust him to complete the plot because Dontos had absolutely no one to turn to since Selmy fled. He killed Dontos because Dontos finally had something of real value to buy his way out with: information.
The Littlefinger/Lysa love triangle drama goes way back. Littlefinger squired under Hoster Tully and fell in love with his daughter Catelyn, while his other daughter Lysa fell in love with him. When Catelyn was engaged to Brandon Stark (Ned's brother) Littlefinger challenged him to a duel and got knocked in the dirt. Obviously Lysa was not happy with this display of affection. Then Brandon and his father died in the drama that set off the rebellion, so to forge alliances Catelyn married Ned, and Lysa married Jon Arryn. So it was easy for Littlefinger to use Lysa's love for him to get her to poison her husband, and she didn't help the Starks even when Catelyn asked because she was still jealous. That's why she thinks Littlefinger is sleeping with Sansa, because she's Catelyn's daughter (and she looks like her -- both Tully sisters and Sansa have red hair).
Margaery is basically waving her power in Cersei's face. She knows the Lannisters need this alliance. The Tyrells are the second richest family in Westeros. For Margaery to become Queen is something they need so they can join their houses and their power against the Crown's enemies. That's why Margaery is fearlessly taunting Cersei by calling her sister or mother. She knows her power here.
And Gendry is still rowing...
The Hound struck Arya, because she had literally just tried to run him through with her sword, haha. And yes, Cersei was just trying to manipulate the judges in Tyrion's trial.
Cersei is called 'mother' and she's offended. Dany is called 'mother' and is honored. Interesting parallel. 😁💜
Being called "mother" by a younger more beautiful woman who is conniving to get her claws into your son, is different to being the mother of hatched dragons, yes, they are her babies. but its a different feeling:)
“Everywhere in the world, they hurt little girls.” - Cersei
as much as i hate Cersei, this one breaks my heart and made me emphatize with her
Robert Selagon Me to 90% of the stuff Cersei says: “Well, she’s not wrong...” Sure some people on this show are more noble than others, but it’s hard to hate a lot of these people when a lot of their motivations are understandable. Also interesting that Cersei and Arya have completely different approaches to sexism in Westeros.
“You know nothing Steve Snow”
No one as high class as Sansa would wear broken jewelry, much less to a huge event for a psycho, who would see it as huge disrespect if he noticed (which he wouldn’t, but Cersei would)
I just love how Nikki rolls her eyes every time Steven says "Jon Snooooo"
When Steven is irritating Nikki, she looks at him like she wants to kill him, even though she loves him. It's endearing.
Honestly, 99% of GoT fans are like Steven towards Jon. lol I myself included. I love the character.
As a British person myself, I love hearing Americans attempt to put on a British accent. They might never manage it, but it's funny to listen to them try.
1:13 lol Nikkis like "okay sweetie, lets hear it *eye flutter* " 😂😂
She was figuratively patting him on the head towards the end with an eye roll. "It's okay sweetie."
I love Steven's voice imitations. Just let him have his fun Nikki. LOL!!!
The theory does not make any sense. Just apologize and move on, dude. Go, Nikki!
Sansa definitely can't catch a break...
Poor girl...
tunderdiamant
The reason why people hate so much on Sansa is because she is a slow learner like them she reminds them of themselves ! That's my theory anyway.
I mean i'm sure half or the people that don't like is mostly because she was responsible of Ned's death which is a stupid reason ^^ But yeah Sansa is the most human of the starks which is probably why people don't like her.. she's not "badass" enough...
@@tunderdiamant8651 In the book, she's actually responsible, not as much in the show
well, I think they said she is 14, or 15.. she is starting to learn the world is not what she thought it was going to be, and people can be stunningly cruel. And slowly learning its not just one or two people who are not who they say they are.
I love the reveal thatLyssa poisoned Jon Arryn and that the Lannisters have been innocent from the start of all of this nonsense.
> innocent from the start
> Jaime pushed Bran
+feyzal92
There is no family who isnt innocent.... so yeah u can say that.
If Bran blabbed about what he saw, Robert would've killed Jamie&Cersei and their three children. It was a tough choice but he had to do what he had to do. Doesn't make him evil
+RustyShakleford
indeed
What does Jamie pushing bran out the window have to do with Jon arryn's death? Someone explain that to me and why it's relevant to this discussion? Why would bran being pushed out of the window have anything to do with the Lannisters innocence in the nonsense of Jon Arryn's death? Seeing as though comment is about the Lannisters innocence in the nonsense of John Arryn's death, I'm not sure what it has to do with Jamie pushing bran out of the window. The original poster should not have to write an essay over explaining everything. We're discussing the Lannisters involvement with John Arryn's death in this entire comment section, not just the replies to this comment. Jamie pushing bran out of the window literally has nothing to do with the Lannisters not being responsible for Jon Aaron's death. It is not relevant to the conversation. What you guys want to do is be upset about something so you found it. Because Op did not write out a bunch of words explaining things that we are all not talking about, you guys got offended. Read between the lines for once. Saying that the Lannisters are innocent of this one thing does not mean that they are innocent of anything else. There's no way it could be interpreted that way unless you want to be upset about something.
This episode has one of the biggest reveals in the series. The entire story's narrative was started by Littlefinger and his manipulation of Lysa for his ultimate revenge for being disfigured and embarrassed by the hands of the Starks. Specifically, Ned's older brother Brandon.
There was a second reveal to Lysa's conversation with Little Finger, watch it again when you get the chance. Basically Little Finger is the one that set everything in motion to start the War of the Five Kings. In the books it is implied that he encouraged Joffrey to defy this mother and ask for Ned Stark's head.
Jon Arryn it's like a father to Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon, they both adopted and raised by Jon Arryn
Zac Baratheon not adopted but fostered, it was common in the medieval times that got is based on for the sons of lords to be fostered to another lord for a time to learn from him, especially if he had more resources. Remember that Ned was the younger son at the point of his fostering, so the idea was for him to find a place in the world as a warrior as he was not supposed to become lord of winterfell. Think of it as like going away to boarding school or college.
Furious Magpie: It worked in that respect as well. Robert's rebellion started when Aerys the mad king demanded that Jon Arryn execute Ned and Robert and send him their heads. He refused and became the first great lord to rebel against the crown, immediately 3 of the great houses were in open rebellion.
Jon was also the man most responsible for maintaining peace in the realm after Robert won the throne, he worked hard to placate the Dornish and talked them around (Oberyn tried to continue the war after King's Landing fell; he wanted to crown Viserys).
Jojen did say to that guy, "I saw snow fall and bury your bones" and then enter Jon Snow :]
"Oh yes, yes, yes, yes kill him! Do it, yes! O thank you Jesus! Yes Hodor … Bran!"
*Fist pumps*
I think the hound smacking Arya was more out of anger that she just tried to kill him. It just took him a second to notice
13:22 To be fair she _did_ just try to kill him... (she didn't stand a chance and failed miserably, sure, but _the intention_ was _definitely_ there...)
The intro was amazing . Classic wife/husband argument 😁😂
You guys' discussion in the beginning reminds me of the differences of opinions book fans have over different perceptions they have over the same event or situation 😂 it's crazy some of the things people will go back and forth over. For years now 😂
That entire pre-episode discussion was so textbook guy/girl "you were right, but I wasn't wrong" pure comedy. I was laughing and laughing and at about 2:57 I realized I was humming "Let It Go"! LOL!
It makes about as much sense as Steve's theory that Cersei would sacrifice Joffrey for Tommen! lol
When you're in a hole stop digging.
I'm so glad I found this channel. It's been the best way for me to rehash all these episodes that I haven't seen in years! Special shoutout to Nikki's eyerolls! Y'all rock.
My Dad taught me never hit a girl, my mother taught me; if the girl is big enough to throw a punch at you, she's big enough to take a hit, as long as I didn't strike first.
A girl was beating up a friend, I stepped in and I didn't strike back and felt embarrassed later, when my mom got home and saw my face, is when she gave me that lesson.
Arya was foolish enough to do that ;she's old enough to take a hit.
Sandor was quite measured.
@@The80sWolf_ "they"? are women another species to you now? Why would equality make it ok to hit women? For one thing, it's not ok for people to hit anyone. It's not ok for men to hit men. I agree if someone hits you first you can retaliate, but in general equality shouldn't automatically mean 'I can hit every woman I want' and if the first thing you think when people bring up equality is 'Great! Now I can go around punching women' then something is wrong with you.
I know this is kind of off topic for a Game of Thrones thread, but I hate how people equate equality between the sexes with being allowed to expend violence at every turn. Arya, in this instance, deserved retaliation for her actions, because of her actions. But she doesn't deserve automatic violence because she's a woman/girl who wants equal treatment. The person who throws the first punch in anything other than self defense is almost universally seen as the asshole, no matter who the recipient is. If you hit women just because you can
(and apparently want to), makes you an asshole.
@@The80sWolf_ I am, thanks
Sorry, Steven but it doesn't make any sense. Littlefinger said something like: you didn't notice something missing. The only way she could notice that jewel was missing is if she saw it intact. If the jewel wasn't there in the first place how could she know that there was jewel there before? 😉😂
Ah... maybe if there was a empty spot where the missing jewel was supposed to be?
it's pretty obvious when you buy a necklace brand new and you notice there is a jewel missing...
and steven actually does make sense in that if they did have a different way to get the jewel into the party they would still need to put the necklace on sansa AND have her wear it to the party in order to frame her for it.
where steven doesnt make sense is why would they arrange a different way to smuggle it in and risk getting caught when they could just use sansa to get it in and take the jewel off later.
this is where I dont really get the "high security"... sansa has the most reason to kill joffrey... why wouldn't she be the most patted down and watched person there?
i also don't understand why LF would tell sansa about the necklace... if she's smart she would realize she was used and that they intended to frame her if it went to shit... why would you even need to tell sansa about the necklace and risk her understanding that? he could have just said yes, I killed Joffrey and I'm setting you free... let's go.
@@@digitalthunder9927 - Probably for the same reason he told her the story of the Mountain and Hound when he 1st met her at the joust tournament. He's gambling, but by sharing these damning secrets with Sansa, he's establishing a mutually assured fate for the both of them. He set this whole mess in motion and pegged Sansa from the start as someone easy to manipulate, and assessed her value to him from very early on + he's a pervert. He's gaining her trust by seemingly putting his fate in her hands, when really, it's quite the opposite. He's had his hooks into her from day 1... such a creep.
The whole conversation reminded me of the "waking up dead" bit in Scary Movie 3. lol
19:05 Nikki's battle roar after her saying "or a direwolf!" is everything
One of the things I always love about this episode and the earlier one with the renegade crows is their leader, the nasty one with the daggers. The actor is Burn Gorman, who I know well from Torchwood. He was also outstanding in the latest remake of Agatha Christie's 'And Then There Were None'. Fantastic underrated actor.
Steven with the fresh cut!✂Great vid guys thank you!💪🙏
This series is just amazing, and the reveal that Lord Petyr Baelish/Little Finger was behind everything from the start is such a mind blowing curveball. He is the reason Jon Arryn died, he is the reason the Starks were told that the Lannisters were behind it, he was the one who betrayed Ned, he was the one who got Joffrey killed.... every step of the way he was behind the curtain pulling the strings. Kind of impressive, even if he is a self serving piece of sh*t, lmao.
You guys definitely have the best Thumbnail game when it comes to GOT reaction video's
@23:48: note the weird karma wheel turn here: Bran in Hodor’s skin killed Locke, who maimed Jaime, who pushed Bran out of the window, which strangely led him on this quest for the 3-Eyed Raven.
Also, Cersei is being honest with Oberyn. She does occasionally let her guard down, like in that scene with Tyrion when she started crying and he didn't know how to comfort her.
the title FIRST OF HIS NAME.... symbolises petyr bailish.... creating his own house and history.... single handedly with his clever mind
Petyr Baelish didn't create his own house, he just changed House Baelish's sigil. And "first of his name" is a title for rulers, like Queen Elisabeth "the First" of Britain and King Christian "the Fourth" of Denmark. It doesn't symbolise Petyr Baelish in any way. He wasn't the first Baelish as you imply, and he's not king... The episode title refers to Tommen, who is crowned "King Tommen of the house Baratheon, first of his name" at the beginning of the episode.
Littlefinger and Varys are the movers and shakers in the series. Another great reaction vid !
OMG!! YOU GUYS KILL ME!! The looks on your faces when Lysa and Petyr were doing the deed was absolutely priceless!! Great reaction! ❤
At 18:29, I swear Nikki was about to start bobbing and weaving and throwing punches.
The necklace was there to smuggle the poison in, so that Lady Olenna could get the Jewel and put it into Joffrey's cup. If someone would have taken the jewel out of the necklace to give it to Olenna the day before, the whole thing about giving the necklace to Sansa would have no point... exept they wanted to frame her. Or Olenna could have taken a jewel from her own necklace or ring. In fact, if someone had the idea to check all jewelery for poisonous jewels right before the wedding, then Sansa would have been in trouble. And all she could say for her defence would have been, that she got it from Ser Dantos.
Funnysterste
True that , still an old necklace with missing stone or two wouldn't really alarm anyone anyway. So Steven had a point . Good explanation tho
Saludos
All the Starks and their dire wolves...I love it. Ghost is great and I love how he and Jon interact.
I remember this episode, I so wanted Jon to see Bran, even if only for a moment.
Yeah...Lysa is several shades of messed up.
6:55 The Eyrie might indeed be well-nigh impregnable to conventional armies (though give Bronn ten good men and some climbing spikes...), but it sure made a nice landing spot for dragons back during Aegon's conquest...
9:00
That awkward moment 👀🤦🏼♀️
Cracked me up 😁🤣🤣🤣
That is so sweet that you guys used the reunion between Jon and Ghost as the thumbnail pic for this video. That really was a heartwarming scene :)
Fun Fact: Robin Arryn is supposed to be Robert Arryn. But to reduce the confusion, they named him Robin in the show. Robb Stark and Robert Arryn are both named after Robert Baratheon, as Ned and Robert were both fostered by Jon Arryn at the Eyrie in the Vale. They both loved Robert greatly.
There's quite a bit of history there betwen Catelyn, Lysa and Littlefinger. Rewatch those scenes and listen closely.
Jon and Ghost-reunion is me and my husky when I come back from the store.
... and you'll be free to marry Robin... 😂😂
Diana Gero I have always had this suspicion, too.
@Diana Gero
Well he did get her pregnant when they were teens but her father made her abort the baby.
After that it's fairly possible she had a relationship akin to what Cersei had with king Robert and Jamie.
I never considered this. Thanks for the theory.
She should marry Robin. He has the strongest army in Westeros and is simple minded and easily controlled. And the fresh non depleted Vale army would easily be able to retake the north. He is honestly the best marriage in Westeros right now. It astounds me that no family is trying to make an marriage alliance with him.
Still grosses me out, even more than some closer family relationships in the show...
I really love the moment where they ask Jojen how they'll know the end and it cuts to him staring at his hand on fire... It's both really explicit and in your face and yet symbolic and open to interpretation. Just a really powerful and somehow beautiful shot
Also poor Hodor :/ he was so shaken at what he saw/did
The third judge was Mace Tyrell (Margeary's father, Olenna's son, and lord of Highgarden), as Tywin mentioned in ep 3 or 4.
This was such an entertaining reaction. You guys are hilarious🤣❤️😘
The Dontos Necklace diary :
It makes sense, it doesn't make sense. It makes total sense, no it doesn't. You were right, right? But my point makes sense. No. Yes it does, it could have happen this way. No. Yes.
LOL :)
This is a torture.. I want to see your reactions to all the other episodes right now.. I can wait for season 8 til spring but i canot wait for your resctions! Please find time and upload at least two episodes a day!
Greetings from Sweden!
Every time I think of re-watching Game of Thrones, I find it more fun to watch you two react to it :)
I'm new here and u guys r awesome, keep it up!
Amer Kiwan
Welcome to the fam
Thanks a lot
Amer Kiwan welcome to the channel! Thanks for watching! - Nikki
hahahha Steven killed me 😂😂😂 it took him a lot of minutes to save his point.
LOL This week on CSI : Westeros... 😂
Love your reactions and seeing you two putting things together.
Jon and Ghost reunion! I remember watching that episode and wanting Bran and Jon to see each other sooo badly, but I understood his decision.
Littlefinger is the biggest mind playing the Game of Thrones, he moves people to do what he wants and manipulate them like children.
Steven you are so dang lucky to have someone like Nikki. To watch you and her have so much fun while doing this is not common with a lot of couples. Both of you remember this is all for fun so sit back and enjoy it all, even the disagreements. : )
Lysa’s husband was the Hand at Kings Landing before Ned got there.
Jon stabbing the fool as Steven called him like that is his answer to what's wrong with honor " nothing is wrong with honor you fool it's how you understand & use it honor" ..
Lysa - " you fight with no honor!!!"
(looking down the moondoor)
Bronn - "no but he did."
Every time Nikki says "this bitch", I am giddy with joy. It's a Blind Wave thing! lol Calvin said it throughout the ENTIRE show. hahahahaha
Hugs and kisses from Denmark!
Great episode as always you two! Just want to touch on a few things. I know others in the comments have explained these parts already but I could talk about this show for hours. haha
1. If you remember when they first arrived, Robin Arryn was asking Sansa about Ned, Catelyn and Robb. He asked her if they had died and he then mentioned that his father Jon Arryn was also murdered by the Lannisters.
2. The comments made between Lysa Arryn and Petyr Baelish. Lysa was talking to Petyr and she said roughly, That she (Lysa) was the one who poured poison in her husbands (Jon) wine at Petyr's orders. She then mentions that Petyr was the one who also asked her to send the letter to Catelyn, telling her and Ned that Jon Arryn did not die from getting sick. He died at the hands of the Lannisters. That letter basically started the entire conflict between the Starks and the Lannisters.
3. The scene between Arya and the Hound. I know you guys are very sensitive and protective over Arya but you must remember, she is not a little girl any more. Yes at this point she may only be 12-13 years old but age is different in this time period. 14 year old children bare children and get married and can, as we have seen, also sit on the Iron Throne. Also Arya is arguably eve more of an adult then Sansa is at this point. Her and the hound have a connection. She says he is on her list and that she will kill him one day but that does not mean they don't work well together.
She is certainly learning something new about life and fighting and surviving everyday and that is directly because of the Hound/The people she has traveled with. Also if you think about it, she just tried to kill him. A larger sword or a weaker part of his armor and she would have shoved it straight through him. The backhand was more of a, "this is what you get for trying to stab me yet I'm going to give you your sword back anyway". It was a perfect tough love situation and it really will only make her stronger as a person.
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As always you two are doing an amazing job with your reactions. I cannot wait to see the rest of the season unfold and get to enjoy your reactions along the way. Keep up the amazing work!
I get so exited to come home to a new reaction! Your guy’s banter is great 😂
Love both of them sitting there awkwardly listening to Lysa's screams like they're trying not to make eye contact with the TV.
I was laughing so hard in the beginning. You guys are great! Also congrats on 25k!
When you factor in everything as Nikki says, it does not make sense. Little finger wouldn't point out a missing gem if that gem wasn't playing a part in the poisoning. If it had been missing from the start then this jewel would not be spoken about at all. Yes I concede that it is possible for the jewel to have been missing beforehand and it "makes sense" that it could. However, your point only makes sense when you selectively ignore parts of the story.
You guys are great together. You had me laughing with your poking at each other.
I feel like I should be eating popcorn watching you two discuss all the theories surrounding Joffrey's murder. It's SO great! And speaking of great - how about this season? The entirety of season 4 is absolutely, unbelievably EPIC, and you're only halfway there! Keep cranking 'em out, guys!
This is the one episode in season 4 that takes it's foot off the gas. The benefit of being based on the final third of a book makes this season pop off almost every episode. Love it.
Nikki in that thumbnail is everything 😂
Your reactions this episode show how much this show has changed you guys 😂 Keep it up!
I love the names given to the poisons in this series. "The Strangler" -killed Joffrey, "Tears of Lys"- given to Lysa Aaryn to kill her husband. They are all very poetic! Theres more too but its more fun to notice them yourselfs :) great episode
LOL at Nikki's eye roll at "it could make sense".
18:44 - me every time after eating taco bell
Andy OMG lol - Nikki
Enjoy watching the reactions of the two of you, good way to start my day.
18:40 from where the girl stabs him in the back to where he gets the spear thru his mouth, you were "pulsing" with tenseness nikki...i was fascinated with the camerawork on that after I got over the shock
I managed to wake up right on time! Let’s goooooo!!!💜
Damn lady!
I felt so bad for Sansa, she just couldnt catch a break. I always wish she had left with the Hound!
Hey you two ☺ before I say anything CONGRATULATIONS on 25k subs!!! Well deserved! You guys will be at 50k no doubt by the time this show is over 😊 anyways great reaction as always and see you guys on the next one ! 👍🏼
Ok finally got to watch this and comment. Bran warging into Hodor to kill Locke was awesome. His powers are growing. Also Ghost reuniting with Jon was pretty cool also. Lysa.... nuttier than squirrel turds. Good episode. Y'all take care and have a blessed evening.
1833, He died like Penny from The Walking Dead.
The old gods and the new demand GoT episode reactions daily!
I'm so early there's not even HD available yet
Edit: see, Joffrey is still giving you guys headache even from hell
Spectator I don’t want them to complete the show. 3 episodes a week is good for me lol.
HolyMaster however, the longer they take, the bigger the risk for spoilers. I've just learned that even other totally non-related shows (The Flash) and even a movie I forgot can spoil things in GoT... not to mention the internet which can do it in many ways.
Spectator right... you rather should watch the shannera chronicles ... the strain or arrow
Don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, since Arrow sucks since season 3 in my opinion =) and I had to drop it
But anyway, my point is the night is dark and full of spoilers
Yes i totally agree , i"m addicted to those reactions
I love the fact that you two are are low-key representing the house of Black and White
Nikki has the most happy smile ever!
Absolutely loved the bloodlust in both of your eyes when you wanted a White Walker or Dire Wolf to destroy that deserter. And instant payoff with Ghost destroying that prick!
RIP Karl Tanner. He was a legend. A Fookin Legend from Gin Alley.
@16:58, "Kill him Hodor... Bran..."
I think you'll find the proper term is 'Brodor' ;)
"Everything before the word but is horseshit." - Eddard "Ned" Stark, Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North.
Next time you argue with Nikki Steve you should remember that.😉
CAREFUL NED! CAREFUL NOW!! - King Robert
dude you're on borderline spoiler territory
Robert Selagon no I'm not, that was in season one. Benjen quoted it to Tyrion at the Wall.
Lol good morning from Texas guys!
Little Finger in this episode went all McMahon: “IT WAS ME, CAT. IT WAS ME ALL ALONG”