The red woman usually doesn't need to sleep, eat, and she is always warm. At the end there she is cold (she lit a fire) and she went to sleep. She feels defeated.
Millisandra does feel defeated. She read the flames wrong and thought Stannis was the Prince that was Promised......she convinced him to kill his brother and daughter for the Lord of Light.
Melisandre is kinda... broken. I mean, imagine believing in a god for centuries, committing terrible acts in his name (and truly believing you are doing good) and then your entire faith comes crashing down. The flames were wrong. I burned people alive for nothing. I'm a monster. That's pretty much what she's feeling. She's questioning her entire purpose in life. Think of a midlife crisis times 10. Lmao.
Yeah, you kind forgive her cus her god was obiously real. At least SOMETHING was setting shit on fire and offing people, just cus she prayed for it, or did some ritual. Let's face it: If god were real, and you seriously believed he was telling you to do some bad shit, but that it was for the greater good, you'd do it. Cus it's GOD! Whatever god you believe in, part of the belief system is usually that they're always in the right
Something a lot of people don't seem to know is that Drogo's khalasar, while being the largest, was not the only one. The Dothraki is made up of many khalasars as well as their sacred city of Vaes Dothrak where the widows of dead khals reside permanently. They war among themselves and sell each other into slavery whenever they meet outside of Vaes Dothrak. I feel the show didn't really get this point across very well.
@@bbictorr Dothoraki follow the strong once she showed her power it was a done deal for them . They are most afraid of Sea and Fire and she is unburnt with dragons to cross the seas so ! I think that's more interesting than just them waging war because he wanted a different looking foreign bride lol
I think Melisandre is disgusted with herself for getting Stannis and thousands of others killed along with the fact she thought Jon was someone special but he is now dead aswell. She's depressed because all those visions she has seen will no longer become true. She feels like she has no purpose anymore.
She’s upset because she thought stannis was the prince promised, she’s guilty about convincing him of the sacrifices that they were needed when in fact the flames were truthful but she misunderstood them, and read them wrong. So she now feels guilty because she read them wrong.
I thought it sucked. Brienne faced no consequences for abandoning her duty i.e. Sansa, to go on a revenge quest. Bad writing that she got to abandon Sansa and then still rescue her.
I hated Melisandre up until shit didn't turn out the way she expected it to. Then she became such a nuanced character to me. Her sad looks throughout this episode, coupled with the old crone bit and her crawling into bed, showed such a fragile side to her we haven't seen before.
Nova Lena Yeah and Jaime attempted to murder Bran, permanently paralyzing him, but people are willing to forgive him because he’s a hot dude. Theon murdered *two* children but everyone’s all about his redemption path.
I think what binds Melisandre, Theon & Jaime was the arrogance they've shown with their murders (attempted murder). They acted like they were truly justified in doing it. Jaime is still in that mentality...for Cersei. But Theon & now Melisandre seem truly sorry for what they did.
@Drake XBL I thought your point was those shows made you flip your table and come back for more, didn't think you were just saying you like those shows more than GOT. You must have commented under the wrong thread cause thats not what this was about to begin with, lmao
Ghost is a boy, and all the Stark children's wolves are/were the same gender as them. Not only that, but they all have names that are very significant to their owner's characters. Bran's wolf is Summer, and Bran is very close to the plot of fighting the walkers (winter). Sansa's wolf was Lady, which ties in with her desire to marry Joffrey at the start of the show and now her marriages to both Tyrion and Ramsey. Arya's is Nymeria, who was an ancient warrior princess. And you can now understand the significance of Ghost. George obviously had everything planned out from the start!
@@angie-tq4ewThat's one possibility, or maybe it could represent the cold weather of the North. I think shaggy dog was meant to show Rickon's innocence amid all the conflict because it's such a childish name
Jon named Ghost when he first finds him because he is quieter than the others, he never made any noise. Sort of like his life in Winterfell, he was a ghost to his family because he was born as a “bastard”
I loooove the scene with Brienne and Sansa, because it's the same oath that Catelyn and Brienne exchanged that sent Brienne on the path she's been on. To finally succeed and find someone to serve is all she wanted. Ahh my heart
Go Brienne!!! She is faithful and smart. Go Ser Davos, who is also faithful and smart. Two of the best characters in this saga shone brightly in this episode!
She thought Stannis was the one AND she saw Jon fighting at Winterfell AND she burned a child for nothing. Everything she believes now appears to be a lie.
25:26 lmao basically Old Mel is really Old. Shes like hundreds of years old and was thriving bec of her faith in magic. Once she removed the necklace and doubt crept in, she became her true self. At least thats my interpretation. The question this raises is so many other things...like if a person is capable of being immortal, what else can they do or become? This raises so many possibilities about her role in this tale. In terms of its mystery it all sounds very mystical and fascinating.
Really glad you guys didn't rage quit, lol! Melisandre is ancient, like 300-400 years old, most likely. The necklace she wears is a glamour, although we did see her without it when she was in the tub talking to Selyse, Stannis's wife. Remember that conversation? She was talking about using potions to make people see different things. She called them parlour tricks. I also loved that scene with the Dothraki, they're savages but they're funny as Hell, reminded me of an old Monty Python sketch. 🤣🤣
Ser Davos: a consistent voice for sense and reason in a world where petty ambition or dogmatic intransigence often wins the day (at the cost of everyone).
The Red Woman is another of those characters where I find my thoughts on her shift depending. I think Stannis’ defeat seriously shook her faith, which is something she was pretty much sold into as a child. So her development is really fascinating Arya...oh, poor Arya. But she’s a survivor. She never just lays down and gives up and I have to give her major props for that! Sanaa’s acceptance of Brienne’s service is one of my favorite scenes and for a really small reason. It’s been so long that she has partially forgotten the words; I love Podrick helping her.
Show-Ellaria logic: "Uhm, so Oberyn was killed during a fair trial and I want to avenge him? I have a very good idea: let's murder his brother and niece brutally, thus extinguishing the Martell bloodline, Oberyn's bloodline. He surely would have liked it a lot."
The Dark Side of J Yeah, She gets revenge by killing his brother and nephew, WTF! Oh well, that's one of Dan & Dave's plot holes! (GRRM, they're not!) but we move on I guess!
BetaArtemis well all his daughters are Sand. I used bloodline a little bit inappropiately, I meant members of the Martell family. Jay Bird I get that the books' plot for Dorne is a little bit too articulated for the show, but they came up with horrible ideas to replace it, unfortunately :(
The Dark Side of J TRUE, TRUE. I just hated how they wasted (And killed) the character & actor that played Doran Martell! He seemed like he was going to be a boss character on the show!
In the books, yes he has more daughters! Don't remember if it was mentioned in the show about more daughters. Still, most people have to wonder: Why would you kill your lovers brother & nephew to avenge his death? This is what I mean with "Plot hole!"
The key insight to that final scene is that Mellisandre was COLD. Previously, she'd always been able to prance around the frozen North in the same robes she wore in the South; claiming the Lord's fire warmed her. Now it would seem that "fire" has gone out. Take that for what you will.
The powers of Melisandre comes from her strong faith in the lord of light (that's why she appears younger and the red gem in her necklace was always glowing). After her failures with Stannis and Jon's death, she's in a faith crisis right now and doubting everything she believes (which is why the gem isn't glowing anymore and she appears as her real old self)
We don't actually *know* whether her power comes from the Lord of Light, considering we don't know if he even exists. All we know is that she has powers by her use of bloodmagic and shadowbinding, but neither is inherently related to the Lord of Light, they're forms of sorcery that don't involve to any degree. Followers of R'hllor might *use* these types of magic but they don't *belong* to the religion. Saying her power comes from her belief isn't backed up by what appears in the show at all. Unless I'm mistaken, of course, feel free to point that out.
@jovi Levi your forgetting about Thoros of Myr and his power he even says himself he doesn't have the power he only says the words it's the lord of light that does the magic, whether that is true for Melisandre is hard to say your right she uses blood magic etc so maybe her power comes from herself and the magic she uses rather than the lord of light.
Jovi Levi :3 there's clearly a bigger force working behind this faith, not just some people with magic. I think R'hllor is real and I think we'll get more info about it (in the books at least), though George said he's likely to leave the gods to intepretation by the end. The Old Gods are basically a collective mind of the greenseers inside the weirwoods. And the Seven are totally fake.
@Richard Lucas - 'Clearly' a bigger force? I don't see it. Nobody's been able to argue in favour of it to any degree of success. There is no 'clearly'.
"I've always been a terrible priest... By the time I came to Westeros, I didn't believe in our lord... I wore the robes and every now and then I'd recite the prayers, but it was just for show... Until the Mountain drove a lance through this one's heart. I knelt beside his cold body and I said the old words. Not because I believed in them, but because he was my friend. And he was dead. And they were the only words I knew. And for the first time in my life, the lord replied." -Thoros of Myr
I'm not sure if its directly stated in the show but its been heavily implied she doesn't need to sleep, her magic keeps her vital (same as her not feeling the cold or poison etc.) So when she takes off the necklace it's her giving up basically
@@tomw4955 It seems stupid when put that way, yes, but another way to see it is that because Oberyn wasn't properly avenged, their solution is to kill the ones who should have avanged him and take control so they can avenge him themselves, which obviously makes perfect sense. Also, I've seen a lot of reactors, and I've never seen any reactor who didn't like the Dorne plotline unless there was a book reader next to them giving them bad expectations in advance.
I'm glad you both decided not to give up on the show just yet. Love your reactions. The beautiful Jon Snow was laying in the Snow :(. I'm glad the Wildlings came through to help So glad Theon got Sansa away and that Brienne came to their rescue. That Red Haird lady looked disgusting when she was an old lady.
You guys have now seen the red woman in her true form. She’s actually 400 years old now, but not much is known about he background. You are right about her being defeated. Everything she thought she saw in the flames was a lie. All that she did for the Lord of Light turned out to be nothing. That’s something hard to come to terms with. And Ghost is a boy. Thanks for the reactions guys can’t wait until tomorrow.
In the books, characters like Varys use make up to look more appealing. Other characters like Mel use magic in the same sense. Both are technically referred to as "Glamor"
I think Melisandre uses a glamour spell so when she wears her necklace, she looks younger. Something like that. I really loved the scene with Brianne and Sansa, kinda beautiful. Thanks for your reaction x
I keep saying it, you two are a lot of fun to watch this great show with. The twists & turns are never ending & watching you guys hang onto your seats as the roller coaster goes flying along!
Each direwolf matched the Stark they were paired with. Grey Wind, Shaggy Dog, Summer and Ghost are boys. Lady and Nymeria are girls. Another Production Note: Alfie Allen and Sophie Turner were completely fine crossing the river. The water was actually very warm and the frost on the river's edge was made from paraffin wax so it would melt on contact with the warm water like ice. Also, Maisie Williams had two different sets of contacts for filming. One was completely opaque for when the shot didn't require her to walk. For her... uh... 'fight' scene with the Waif (more of a beatdown), her contacts were transparent at the center for her pupils so she would still be able to see.
Cersei saying Marcella is nothing like her , just confirms Cersei is no longer in denial about how evil she is . Which makes her even more Real , witty and therefore more dangerous in my mind .
4:14 "Because I would totally slit his throat." Sorry but I can not see that happening. I don't know why but that seemed charming in a way, like a puppy trying to growl. She's too caring and nice for that haha.
Finally, Sansa's luck is turning. The Red Woman is, quite literally, showing weakness and vulnerability. Is her being at Castle Black coincidence or supernatural fate? It's all very exciting.
I seriously thought Sansa and Theon were dead in the season finale when I first watched and it just made me so happy. After all they've been through, their deaths together seemed to finally stop their hurting.
The awesome ride that is season 6 has begun. Absolutely love this season! I always get the feeling that the show is thinning out the herd, so the characters that remain will all end up playing a vital role in some way, shape, or form.
Season 6 is really a treat after trudging through season 5. Not that I think season 5 is bad but it was a very hard season to digest. I think each episode in this season is a gem. Also with the crone at the end, I just want to say thanks for not being so immature about it. Every reaction people act so dramatic about seeing saggy old boobs. It's just not that serious. It's a shocking but people really are extra about it.
Seconded. Old people... exist, y'know? (Some of us may even become them.) Even if we don't often see their bodies in media. It's only "disgusting" if we want it to be. Especially in a show with so much gore, vomit, semi-decomposed bodies....
Amen to that. I've seen some reactors even go so far as to *literally* gag at the image. Of course, they're also younger than Nikki and Steven, so they're a lot more immature and find old people icky, and they're not yet mature enough to realize that that's exactly what's going to happen to their bodies one day.
Lord Beric Dondarrion is who Thoros resurrected in season 3. Melisandre is a Red Priestesses and Thoros is a Red Priest who both practice The Lord of Light.
Yeah...you're back! One of your best yet...From, No Brianne, we don't have time for this, to The Real Housewives remark, lol...This is the season that Sir Davos really comes to the front of the pack...He is the voice of reason!
The viper has bit his own tail Now a young princess grows pale When the prince heard the news The snake took her dues Knowing the prince was so frail He begged her for mercy But her eyes had grown thirsty For the taste of the prince's entrails Been waiting for this episode to level up my bard trait.
Not sure if this is true or not but I read in an article that Khal Moro was originally going to be Daenerys' husband but GRRM thought against it cause her dragon would be called Moron
YAY this makes my day. LOL @ Steven asking if not having a penis makes it easier to cross a cold river. I thought the boys needed to be colder than your body to work...? lol. As for Dorne.... yeah, that's nowhere near what happens in the books. Us book readers thought it was awful, but for different reasons. Melisandre is over 400 years old. She's very disappointed because her visions haven't come true. She thought Stannis was the new Azor Ahai, who was destined to defeat the Lord of Light's enemies. She also saw Jon in the flames, fighting at Winterfell. She's depressed, feeling powerless.
I hope I look that good when I'm 400 years old. I love how invested you are. I still tear up sometimes even after seeing the scenes over 100 times. Now I know I won't be the only one.
Real talk I've walked through a nearly frozen river before and it is exactly as mind-dominatingly miserable as one would think. Only about a minute after I got out my shoes and socks froze so severely that I actually took them off and walked barefoot on the snow and ice for the mile(ish) that I had left and it was warmer than continuing the trip with shoes on. It was so bad I almost turned around five feet less than half way across which would have increased the journey by about a mile and a half just to save myself that little bit of extra time in the river. Of my whole life the decision to continue through the river took me more will power than almost anything I've ever done even knowing that turning around would almost certainly be worse. I felt for Sansa and Theon so much when I first saw that xp and I was only about a mile away from a warm house, those two just had to deal PS Do NOT let my lack of permanent frost bite damage convince anyone that it's okay to walk through a nearly frozen river XD
Brienne is a kick ass swordfighter and she swore to kill Stannis. She stood 3 feet away from him and we saw her swinging the sword. No way Stannis could have survived that and therefore no reason to show his head falling off.
It's not that she couldn't have done it - if anything she might have gotten scruples to kill an unarmed man and hit the tree. Which - very likley didn't happen. :)
Y'know, Cersei is largely miss understood. Cersei is fiercely protective of her children of which she only has 1 left, everything she has done is for her children, her family. Being held captive by the High Sparrow, being forced to confess & made to do a walk of atonement has broken something in her. For good?...or for bad? Jon called Ghost "boy" at Crasters Keep.
I disagree about her being misunderstood. I think that most people understand that her only redeeming quality is her love for her children. Everything else is done out of spite and to further her own agenda. She has shown no compassion for anyone who isn't herself or her children. Not even to Jamie. Not that this makes her much different than her father other than he was smarter.
I disagree, she's a Mother surrounded by enemies. I think the only thing she has done to suit her own wants besides adultery & incest is try to have Tyrion executed & murdered
Spectre 7734 It’s not cry clear in the show, but in the books she constantly trying to undermine people and and pull secret plans for her agenda. She does it all the time and has no compassion for others at all.
I get people think that she loves all her children, but listen to the way she talks about them. Listen to how she talked about her daughter. Not as a person in her own right, but as a way to prove that she was a good person because her daughter was good. Listen to how she talks about Tommen. Again, not as a person in his own right, but as her property that she will keep away from any rivals for his affection, without any consideration for what he would want. None of this is actually love.
Melisandre is using something that's called "glamor magic". Glamors make the object of the magic appear differently to observers and some red priests believe that glamors are made possible through the Lord of Light. Melisandre is indeed defeated and devastated. She's been a true believer of the Lord of Light and his power (nothing wrong with that, we've seen proof of that magic), and through the show she's been convinced that Stannis was the Prince that was promised (an ancient prophecy about the Messiah basically). Turns out she read her prophecy wrong and yeah, you've seen what it cost. A true defeat of a dedicated believer. So when she's removing the necklace (glamor) in this episode it simply represents that she's lost faith. And her magic grows weaker with her losing faith. Keep in mind tho that prophecies are fickle things.
Yep yep yep Melisandre feels defeated, she read the flames wrong for Stannis and Jon and now she doesn’t know what to do or feel. Her removing her glamour (the ruby choker) is her accepting that she’s pretty weak, she’s seeing herself as she is, an ancient woman, for the first time in maybe centuries
I disagree, a lot of things are bad with this season (in my opinion). Doran and Trystane are murdered by their own family, and Jon's storyline is pretty bad too. Littlefinger is turned into an idiot and both Tyrion and Varys are turned into support characters for Daenerys.
Age Of The Witch That's not what I meant, I meant that they don't have any of their own storylines anymore and aren't important in the grand scheme of things like they used to be.
Best season of any show. Fact (majority of people agree). I can't wait for the next book, The Winds of Winter, to be published and many things happen like the show (or the most crucial things), so the book lords will say "oh the show wasn't so bad after all". By the way, book readers equals NOT book lords.
The red woman usually doesn't need to sleep, eat, and she is always warm. At the end there she is cold (she lit a fire) and she went to sleep. She feels defeated.
24:19 - "Her boobs are kind of amazing." she says. "WAIT FOR IT!!" I say.
Lol! It is known
Yep
I started laughing out loud when Nikki said this.
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Sag-award worthy
Millisandra does feel defeated. She read the flames wrong and thought Stannis was the Prince that was Promised......she convinced him to kill his brother and daughter for the Lord of Light.
Melisandre.
The flames was basically showing her Jon every time she asks of how the prince who was promised was doing...she was so confused she had no idea 😂
Melisandre omg my eyes bled when i read that
She actually read flames right. Her god wanted her to be with Stannis, so he would bring her to Jon.
Marta Gerc Nah...if she was meant to do it she wouldn’t be so defeated looking. My opinion anyway.
Melisandre is kinda... broken. I mean, imagine believing in a god for centuries, committing terrible acts in his name (and truly believing you are doing good) and then your entire faith comes crashing down. The flames were wrong. I burned people alive for nothing. I'm a monster.
That's pretty much what she's feeling. She's questioning her entire purpose in life. Think of a midlife crisis times 10. Lmao.
Michael Henry except not really Midlife...just long life
+Slenderfoxx37 Well, same difference. Same concept, same emotions.
This is same for all religious people too.
Yeah, you kind forgive her cus her god was obiously real. At least SOMETHING was setting shit on fire and offing people, just cus she prayed for it, or did some ritual. Let's face it: If god were real, and you seriously believed he was telling you to do some bad shit, but that it was for the greater good, you'd do it. Cus it's GOD! Whatever god you believe in, part of the belief system is usually that they're always in the right
@@ashscott6068 Your comment summarizes religious people in nutshell and things they do claiming it's their god's will.
Something a lot of people don't seem to know is that Drogo's khalasar, while being the largest, was not the only one. The Dothraki is made up of many khalasars as well as their sacred city of Vaes Dothrak where the widows of dead khals reside permanently. They war among themselves and sell each other into slavery whenever they meet outside of Vaes Dothrak. I feel the show didn't really get this point across very well.
Very similar to the Mongols from Genghis onwards.
Well, I remember Jorah, perhaps in season 1, mentioning other Khals such as Khal Pono and others.
Dany’s S1/book1 arc would’ve been much more interesting if a rival khalasar(s) waged war against Drogo for marrying a foreigner
I wanted to tell Steven and Nikki this before but didn't know if it was a spoiler or not.
Thanks 😉😋
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Dothoraki follow the strong once she showed her power it was a done deal for them . They are most afraid of Sea and Fire and she is unburnt with dragons to cross the seas so ! I think that's more interesting than just them waging war because he wanted a different looking foreign bride lol
that scene with brienne and sansa is a parallel with the scene from season 2 with brienne and cait
If I remember correctly, they were similiar words, but not exactly. But yeah, definitely a parallel and it means a lot to Brienne.
I think Melisandre is disgusted with herself for getting Stannis and thousands of others killed along with the fact she thought Jon was someone special but he is now dead aswell.
She's depressed because all those visions she has seen will no longer become true. She feels like she has no purpose anymore.
I dont think she minds getting anyone killed.. she wasnt disgusted after burning shireen. She's just upset for the other reasons you stated.
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She is upset because she was wrong !! She was over confident . Period.
She’s upset because she thought stannis was the prince promised, she’s guilty about convincing him of the sacrifices that they were needed when in fact the flames were truthful but she misunderstood them, and read them wrong. So she now feels guilty because she read them wrong.
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I remember getting so emotional at the sansa brienne scene, it was so beautiful after a whole year of waiting 😢
I thought it sucked. Brienne faced no consequences for abandoning her duty i.e. Sansa, to go on a revenge quest. Bad writing that she got to abandon Sansa and then still rescue her.
I love how at the start Nikki is already nearly crying 😂
She has not recovered from Jon Snow's death. Remember, we all had close to a year to recover.
Ghost howling really sets the opening scene. Such a beautiful yet mournful sound.
It's a tough scene.... Seeing him laying there alone except ghost howling. ..sad
Not nearly. I think she was crying. Lol.
That was literally me I was sobbing within four mins
I hated Melisandre up until shit didn't turn out the way she expected it to. Then she became such a nuanced character to me. Her sad looks throughout this episode, coupled with the old crone bit and her crawling into bed, showed such a fragile side to her we haven't seen before.
lartisteautravail I loved her before but I loved her even more after this scene.
She's such an interesting character
In the program she has said she is very old. In the books she is said to be 400 years old.
Nova Lena Yeah and Jaime attempted to murder Bran, permanently paralyzing him, but people are willing to forgive him because he’s a hot dude. Theon murdered *two* children but everyone’s all about his redemption path.
I think what binds Melisandre, Theon & Jaime was the arrogance they've shown with their murders (attempted murder). They acted like they were truly justified in doing it. Jaime is still in that mentality...for Cersei. But Theon & now Melisandre seem truly sorry for what they did.
Game of Thrones is that kind and only show that makes you flip your table and say fck this show but at the end you will still come back for it.
@Drake XBL I've only seen BB out of those 3 and that doesn't make me flip a table at all
HBO especially does it. No censors, no advertisements, no sponsors. Crazy money to actors, and sets. Each episode, movie-quality.
@Drake XBL I thought your point was those shows made you flip your table and come back for more, didn't think you were just saying you like those shows more than GOT. You must have commented under the wrong thread cause thats not what this was about to begin with, lmao
Like 'Dark Souls'.
Torchwood does that too for me (granted I didn’t See the last Season yet)
Ghost is a boy, and all the Stark children's wolves are/were the same gender as them. Not only that, but they all have names that are very significant to their owner's characters. Bran's wolf is Summer, and Bran is very close to the plot of fighting the walkers (winter). Sansa's wolf was Lady, which ties in with her desire to marry Joffrey at the start of the show and now her marriages to both Tyrion and Ramsey. Arya's is Nymeria, who was an ancient warrior princess. And you can now understand the significance of Ghost. George obviously had everything planned out from the start!
Grey wind and shaggy dog?
Grey Wind = decisions not black, nor white; direction uncertain
Shaggy Dog = pretty sure a spoiler so I won't say, but you can look it up easy.
@@angie-tq4ewThat's one possibility, or maybe it could represent the cold weather of the North. I think shaggy dog was meant to show Rickon's innocence amid all the conflict because it's such a childish name
Thanks great comment
Jon named Ghost when he first finds him because he is quieter than the others, he never made any noise. Sort of like his life in Winterfell, he was a ghost to his family because he was born as a “bastard”
Something that I love to point out. Brienne’s sword came from Ned’s sword, so in a way, it’s like Ned is protecting Sansa, too ❤️
Real Housewives of Vaes Dothrak... I'd give it a chance.
🤣🤣🤣 I love this! 📺💯
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Real Widows of Vaes Dothrak. FTFY
Dude this is exactly why I love GOT fandom right there ! ⤴️👌🙏🤓😘
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I just realized Theon saving Pod was a parallel of Pod saving Tyrion. Damn.
Having a seriously rough day and this is JUST what I needed.
Jacqueline Ayyy me too🤯
I feel you girl, this is exactly what I needed to turn my day around :)
I had a very shitty day too.So I get ya ;)
Hang in there
Was feeling lonely too. Turned off youtube and was about to sleep. Then decided to check again and saw this post. Makes my day all the time.
I loooove the scene with Brienne and Sansa, because it's the same oath that Catelyn and Brienne exchanged that sent Brienne on the path she's been on. To finally succeed and find someone to serve is all she wanted. Ahh my heart
Go Brienne!!! She is faithful and smart. Go Ser Davos, who is also faithful and smart. Two of the best characters in this saga shone brightly in this episode!
So glad you didn't give up on GOT ❤💚💜💙
No One Can ! 🙏
@@TheMaskedChef7 I see what ya did there. :) lol
Red Women is just broken.. she really believed that Stanis was The One. She is hundereds of years old.
She thought Stannis was the one AND she saw Jon fighting at Winterfell AND she burned a child for nothing. Everything she believes now appears to be a lie.
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Did she burn Shireen for nothing though? No death goes in vain ;)
You didn't quit! You're like Theon, Nikki and Steven! Even with all the pain, you came back for more!
Ugh well, *notBatman* , we're their protectors, we're watching over them I guess :D
No Ric his name is Ric
@@beastbestplay2015 *Reek.
25:26 lmao basically Old Mel is really Old. Shes like hundreds of years old and was thriving bec of her faith in magic. Once she removed the necklace and doubt crept in, she became her true self. At least thats my interpretation. The question this raises is so many other things...like if a person is capable of being immortal, what else can they do or become? This raises so many possibilities about her role in this tale. In terms of its mystery it all sounds very mystical and fascinating.
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I personally also press right arrow key to skip the beginning hook.
Same here lol
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Mind blowing details !! Thank you 🙉
Exactly what I did. I already knew I was going to like it before seeing it, so why wouldn't I like it first. :P
Really glad you guys didn't rage quit, lol! Melisandre is ancient, like 300-400 years old, most likely. The necklace she wears is a glamour, although we did see her without it when she was in the tub talking to Selyse, Stannis's wife. Remember that conversation? She was talking about using potions to make people see different things. She called them parlour tricks. I also loved that scene with the Dothraki, they're savages but they're funny as Hell, reminded me of an old Monty Python sketch. 🤣🤣
Ser Davos: a consistent voice for sense and reason in a world where petty ambition or dogmatic intransigence often wins the day (at the cost of everyone).
The Red Woman is another of those characters where I find my thoughts on her shift depending. I think Stannis’ defeat seriously shook her faith, which is something she was pretty much sold into as a child. So her development is really fascinating
Arya...oh, poor Arya. But she’s a survivor. She never just lays down and gives up and I have to give her major props for that!
Sanaa’s acceptance of Brienne’s service is one of my favorite scenes and for a really small reason. It’s been so long that she has partially forgotten the words; I love Podrick helping her.
Show-Ellaria logic: "Uhm, so Oberyn was killed during a fair trial and I want to avenge him? I have a very good idea: let's murder his brother and niece brutally, thus extinguishing the Martell bloodline, Oberyn's bloodline. He surely would have liked it a lot."
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Yeah, She gets revenge by killing his brother and nephew, WTF! Oh well, that's one of Dan & Dave's plot holes! (GRRM, they're not!) but we move on I guess!
Jay Bird it’s not necessarily a plot hole, Oberyn has other daughters as well so his bloodline isn’t gone
BetaArtemis well all his daughters are Sand. I used bloodline a little bit inappropiately, I meant members of the Martell family.
Jay Bird I get that the books' plot for Dorne is a little bit too articulated for the show, but they came up with horrible ideas to replace it, unfortunately :(
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TRUE, TRUE. I just hated how they wasted (And killed) the character & actor that played Doran Martell! He seemed like he was going to be a boss character on the show!
In the books, yes he has more daughters! Don't remember if it was mentioned in the show about more daughters. Still, most people have to wonder: Why would you kill your lovers brother & nephew to avenge his death? This is what I mean with "Plot hole!"
I love Pod helping Sansa with her vows
I PHYSICALLY cannot wait for tmrws episode!!!!
The Dosh Kaleen are the priestesses who made the prophecy about Dany's baby being the Stallion who Mounts the World. They're all widows of Khals.
Is funny how Steven do that face and put the face up when he is angry or overwhelmed.
The key insight to that final scene is that Mellisandre was COLD. Previously, she'd always been able to prance around the frozen North in the same robes she wore in the South; claiming the Lord's fire warmed her. Now it would seem that "fire" has gone out. Take that for what you will.
Franken-mountain is an excellent way to describe that character.
I'll never get through the Sansa and Brienne scene without getting emotional.
And welcome to season 6! We got your back on this one again.
Nikki finding correlations between GOT and not one but two Disney movies (Frozen and Rapunzel) absolutely slays me
The powers of Melisandre comes from her strong faith in the lord of light (that's why she appears younger and the red gem in her necklace was always glowing). After her failures with Stannis and Jon's death, she's in a faith crisis right now and doubting everything she believes (which is why the gem isn't glowing anymore and she appears as her real old self)
We don't actually *know* whether her power comes from the Lord of Light, considering we don't know if he even exists. All we know is that she has powers by her use of bloodmagic and shadowbinding, but neither is inherently related to the Lord of Light, they're forms of sorcery that don't involve to any degree. Followers of R'hllor might *use* these types of magic but they don't *belong* to the religion.
Saying her power comes from her belief isn't backed up by what appears in the show at all. Unless I'm mistaken, of course, feel free to point that out.
@jovi Levi your forgetting about Thoros of Myr and his power he even says himself he doesn't have the power he only says the words it's the lord of light that does the magic, whether that is true for Melisandre is hard to say your right she uses blood magic etc so maybe her power comes from herself and the magic she uses rather than the lord of light.
Jovi Levi :3 there's clearly a bigger force working behind this faith, not just some people with magic. I think R'hllor is real and I think we'll get more info about it (in the books at least), though George said he's likely to leave the gods to intepretation by the end.
The Old Gods are basically a collective mind of the greenseers inside the weirwoods. And the Seven are totally fake.
@Richard Lucas - 'Clearly' a bigger force? I don't see it. Nobody's been able to argue in favour of it to any degree of success. There is no 'clearly'.
@Dularr - What bias?
Drogon is a free spirit. He marches to the beat of his own drum. Shows up when he wants leaves when he wants. lol
"I've always been a terrible priest... By the time I came to Westeros, I didn't believe in our lord... I wore the robes and every now and then I'd recite the prayers, but it was just for show... Until the Mountain drove a lance through this one's heart. I knelt beside his cold body and I said the old words. Not because I believed in them, but because he was my friend. And he was dead. And they were the only words I knew. And for the first time in my life, the lord replied." -Thoros of Myr
A show for the locals....
I love this quote so much and I absolutely adore Thoros and Beric 😍
I'm not sure if its directly stated in the show but its been heavily implied she doesn't need to sleep, her magic keeps her vital (same as her not feeling the cold or poison etc.) So when she takes off the necklace it's her giving up basically
Sand snakes : we'll avenge Oberyn's death, but first we need to kill Doran and Tristane
Got to love the Sand Snakes... because some Martells weren't properly avenged, their solution is to kill all the remaining Martells.
tbh... the writers fucked up. I get that Dorne storyline was probably too busy grand to pull off as well in the show? But... they really fucked up.
@@tomw4955 It seems stupid when put that way, yes, but another way to see it is that because Oberyn wasn't properly avenged, their solution is to kill the ones who should have avanged him and take control so they can avenge him themselves, which obviously makes perfect sense. Also, I've seen a lot of reactors, and I've never seen any reactor who didn't like the Dorne plotline unless there was a book reader next to them giving them bad expectations in advance.
@@SelvesteSand just cuz a few reactors you watch like it doesnt mean shit when almost half the fandom hates that storyline
“Where’s Kanan Jarrus?” 😂😂😂
I loved that reference
Who??
@@kakam458 he was a former padawan who survived the Jedi Purge. He lost his sight in S2 of Star Wars Rebels.
I laughed so much when nikki got mad about the freezing joke😂😂
The bond between the direwolves and the starks is even more impressive in the books .
I'm glad you both decided not to give up on the show just yet. Love your reactions.
The beautiful Jon Snow was laying in the Snow :(.
I'm glad the Wildlings came through to help
So glad Theon got Sansa away and that Brienne came to their rescue.
That Red Haird lady looked disgusting when she was an old lady.
You guys have now seen the red woman in her true form. She’s actually 400 years old now, but not much is known about he background. You are right about her being defeated. Everything she thought she saw in the flames was a lie. All that she did for the Lord of Light turned out to be nothing. That’s something hard to come to terms with. And Ghost is a boy. Thanks for the reactions guys can’t wait until tomorrow.
Always look forward to your GOT reactions and going on the rollercoaster ride of emotions with you both ! Thank you 😁
In the books, characters like Varys use make up to look more appealing. Other characters like Mel use magic in the same sense. Both are technically referred to as "Glamor"
I think Melisandre uses a glamour spell so when she wears her necklace, she looks younger. Something like that.
I really loved the scene with Brianne and Sansa, kinda beautiful. Thanks for your reaction x
I keep saying it, you two are a lot of fun to watch this great show with. The twists & turns are never ending & watching you guys hang onto your seats as the roller coaster goes flying along!
My favorite Drogon impression 3:43 😂
I’m really glad you guys didn’t give up on the show! These last few seasons are really exciting and I can’t wait to see your reactions!
Each direwolf matched the Stark they were paired with. Grey Wind, Shaggy Dog, Summer and Ghost are boys. Lady and Nymeria are girls.
Another Production Note: Alfie Allen and Sophie Turner were completely fine crossing the river. The water was actually very warm and the frost on the river's edge was made from paraffin wax so it would melt on contact with the warm water like ice.
Also, Maisie Williams had two different sets of contacts for filming. One was completely opaque for when the shot didn't require her to walk. For her... uh... 'fight' scene with the Waif (more of a beatdown), her contacts were transparent at the center for her pupils so she would still be able to see.
Oh wow, never knew that part with the river that's pretty cool, thought the actors legit just walked through a frozen lake somehow haha
Cersei saying Marcella is nothing like her , just confirms Cersei is no longer in denial about how evil she is . Which makes her even more Real , witty and therefore more dangerous in my mind .
14:28 bet Steven didn't think he'd be saying that anytime soon!
Yay you survived! Welcome back! Thanks for reacting!!! ❤❤❤
This is all that I need to get happy..
The red woman taking off her necklace is basically me choosing to take a picture with a filter or without!
4:14 "Because I would totally slit his throat." Sorry but I can not see that happening. I don't know why but that seemed charming in a way, like a puppy trying to growl. She's too caring and nice for that haha.
Oh man best Season ahead AND Westworld finale. That´s gonna be a good week to watch your channel. Greetings from Germany :)
Finally, Sansa's luck is turning. The Red Woman is, quite literally, showing weakness and vulnerability. Is her being at Castle Black coincidence or supernatural fate? It's all very exciting.
11:05 Stevens little grind when Davos says Jon Snooooow hahaha
"Let it go..... let it go... don't hold it back a.n.y.m.o.r.e...." Nikki's reference to "frozen," was hallarious 🤣🤣🤣
I seriously thought Sansa and Theon were dead in the season finale when I first watched and it just made me so happy. After all they've been through, their deaths together seemed to finally stop their hurting.
Sir Davos is so smart. hes my MVP of the episode
The awesome ride that is season 6 has begun. Absolutely love this season! I always get the feeling that the show is thinning out the herd, so the characters that remain will all end up playing a vital role in some way, shape, or form.
Season 6 is really a treat after trudging through season 5. Not that I think season 5 is bad but it was a very hard season to digest. I think each episode in this season is a gem. Also with the crone at the end, I just want to say thanks for not being so immature about it. Every reaction people act so dramatic about seeing saggy old boobs. It's just not that serious. It's a shocking but people really are extra about it.
Seconded. Old people... exist, y'know? (Some of us may even become them.) Even if we don't often see their bodies in media. It's only "disgusting" if we want it to be. Especially in a show with so much gore, vomit, semi-decomposed bodies....
Amen to that. I've seen some reactors even go so far as to *literally* gag at the image. Of course, they're also younger than Nikki and Steven, so they're a lot more immature and find old people icky, and they're not yet mature enough to realize that that's exactly what's going to happen to their bodies one day.
Lord Beric Dondarrion is who Thoros resurrected in season 3.
Melisandre is a Red Priestesses and Thoros is a Red Priest who both practice The Lord of Light.
YEEEEEEEEEESSSSS!!! you did it! and here i was thinking you were summer children.. im sorry, i will never, ever doubt you again.
Yeah...you're back! One of your best yet...From, No Brianne, we don't have time for this, to The Real Housewives remark, lol...This is the season that Sir Davos really comes to the front of the pack...He is the voice of reason!
Watching you watching GOT is the only soap I'm allowed
LOVE IT!!! Congrats on 30k!!!
The viper has bit his own tail
Now a young princess grows pale
When the prince heard the news
The snake took her dues
Knowing the prince was so frail
He begged her for mercy
But her eyes had grown thirsty
For the taste of the prince's entrails
Been waiting for this episode to level up my bard trait.
That's savage af!
@@thedeejaeebee5babee haha, thanks!
I love your reaction to the red woman. You guys were all of us. We were all so freaked out by that! Lol!
Not sure if this is true or not but I read in an article that Khal Moro was originally going to be Daenerys' husband but GRRM thought against it cause her dragon would be called Moron
HAHAHAHAHA Well that didn't stop them from naming a casino in California something very close to that.
Haha there faces made me laugh 😂 when the red woman went old lol 😂
So excited to see you experience Season 6!
You were especially animated this episode, Steven. Haha. Great reaction as usual guys.
**Spoilers in thread** -I think the wolves sex matches their owner. So only Lady and Nymeria are female.
Shaggydock identifies as an Apache
@Iori Van Hail Rob died before his direwolf did.
And there's another Stark with whom that theory doesn't work... I'm not gonna name it.
Actually, Rob died after. He got ATTACKED first, but he didn't die til Roose stabbed him right before they slit Cat's throat.
Nora Girl he’s a stark
19:27 That is some GORGEOUS country.
YAY this makes my day. LOL @ Steven asking if not having a penis makes it easier to cross a cold river. I thought the boys needed to be colder than your body to work...? lol. As for Dorne.... yeah, that's nowhere near what happens in the books. Us book readers thought it was awful, but for different reasons.
Melisandre is over 400 years old. She's very disappointed because her visions haven't come true. She thought Stannis was the new Azor Ahai, who was destined to defeat the Lord of Light's enemies. She also saw Jon in the flames, fighting at Winterfell. She's depressed, feeling powerless.
"How can stuff get worse for our people?" LOL!!
What an unexpected, but welcome, surprise. After the last GOT reaction, I thought y'all were still in mourning.
Yeah! Thank you for still reviewing Game of Thrones!!
......and so begins season 6, in my opinion the best season EVER!
I have it at second best behind season 4.
lol these season 6 and 4 are worst compared to the original books.
Still not supposed to start discussing what seasons are "best". sigh.
We're talking about the show... dont be that guy.
sinister0077 - By "that guy" I assume you mean Steven? (and Nikki)? Who have expressly asked not to be told what seasons are "best", time and again...
I hope I look that good when I'm 400 years old. I love how invested you are. I still tear up sometimes even after seeing the scenes over 100 times. Now I know I won't be the only one.
When you came too soon and the 1080p version hasn't even processed yet :P
Ya me too
i stopped reading after soon
Glad you guys made it this far. This show is hardcore!!
Real talk I've walked through a nearly frozen river before and it is exactly as mind-dominatingly miserable as one would think. Only about a minute after I got out my shoes and socks froze so severely that I actually took them off and walked barefoot on the snow and ice for the mile(ish) that I had left and it was warmer than continuing the trip with shoes on. It was so bad I almost turned around five feet less than half way across which would have increased the journey by about a mile and a half just to save myself that little bit of extra time in the river. Of my whole life the decision to continue through the river took me more will power than almost anything I've ever done even knowing that turning around would almost certainly be worse. I felt for Sansa and Theon so much when I first saw that xp and I was only about a mile away from a warm house, those two just had to deal
PS Do NOT let my lack of permanent frost bite damage convince anyone that it's okay to walk through a nearly frozen river XD
The way they’re smiling at the beginning lol they KNOW
They know.
Brienne is a kick ass swordfighter and she swore to kill Stannis. She stood 3 feet away from him and we saw her swinging the sword. No way Stannis could have survived that and therefore no reason to show his head falling off.
Right. It cuts out because we are seeing the execution from Stannis' POV.
It's not that she couldn't have done it - if anything she might have gotten scruples to kill an unarmed man and hit the tree. Which - very likley didn't happen. :)
Funnysterste she’s not a good fighter.
Arry Brienne kicked the Hound's butt. She'S the only one who hasn't been defeated in combat in the whole show.
I mean, the Hound kicked her butt too, he just fell off a cliff. He probably would've had more stamina than her if they kept fighting longer.
"If you were planning on seeing tomorrow, you picked the wrong room." So fucking badass!!!
Y'know, Cersei is largely miss understood. Cersei is fiercely protective of her children of which she only has 1 left, everything she has done is for her children, her family. Being held captive by the High Sparrow, being forced to confess & made to do a walk of atonement has broken something in her. For good?...or for bad?
Jon called Ghost "boy" at Crasters Keep.
I disagree about her being misunderstood. I think that most people understand that her only redeeming quality is her love for her children. Everything else is done out of spite and to further her own agenda. She has shown no compassion for anyone who isn't herself or her children. Not even to Jamie. Not that this makes her much different than her father other than he was smarter.
I disagree, she's a Mother surrounded by enemies. I think the only thing she has done to suit her own wants besides adultery & incest is try to have Tyrion executed & murdered
Spectre 7734 It’s not cry clear in the show, but in the books she constantly trying to undermine people and and pull secret plans for her agenda. She does it all the time and has no compassion for others at all.
I get people think that she loves all her children, but listen to the way she talks about them. Listen to how she talked about her daughter. Not as a person in her own right, but as a way to prove that she was a good person because her daughter was good. Listen to how she talks about Tommen. Again, not as a person in his own right, but as her property that she will keep away from any rivals for his affection, without any consideration for what he would want.
None of this is actually love.
It's been a since I've read the Books but I'M NOT BUDGING!
23:10 Ha!! I got you, Steven; nice Rebels reference haha
Melisandre is using something that's called "glamor magic". Glamors make the object of the magic appear differently to observers and some red priests believe that glamors are made possible through the Lord of Light.
Melisandre is indeed defeated and devastated. She's been a true believer of the Lord of Light and his power (nothing wrong with that, we've seen proof of that magic), and through the show she's been convinced that Stannis was the Prince that was promised (an ancient prophecy about the Messiah basically). Turns out she read her prophecy wrong and yeah, you've seen what it cost. A true defeat of a dedicated believer. So when she's removing the necklace (glamor) in this episode it simply represents that she's lost faith. And her magic grows weaker with her losing faith.
Keep in mind tho that prophecies are fickle things.
LOL at "Does the lack of stuff done there make it easier to cross cold water?" LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Yep yep yep Melisandre feels defeated, she read the flames wrong for Stannis and Jon and now she doesn’t know what to do or feel. Her removing her glamour (the ruby choker) is her accepting that she’s pretty weak, she’s seeing herself as she is, an ancient woman, for the first time in maybe centuries
I look forward to this so much! You guys make my days brighter..My favorite season so far. Enjoy guys! Some of the best television ever filmed....
BEST SEASON OF ANY SHOW EVER !! lets do this
Totally agree
I disagree, a lot of things are bad with this season (in my opinion). Doran and Trystane are murdered by their own family, and Jon's storyline is pretty bad too. Littlefinger is turned into an idiot and both Tyrion and Varys are turned into support characters for Daenerys.
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Supporting Dany doesn't make them any less important.
Age Of The Witch That's not what I meant, I meant that they don't have any of their own storylines anymore and aren't important in the grand scheme of things like they used to be.
Best season of any show. Fact (majority of people agree).
I can't wait for the next book, The Winds of Winter, to be published and many things happen like the show (or the most crucial things), so the book lords will say "oh the show wasn't so bad after all". By the way, book readers equals NOT book lords.
Yay I'm so happy you came back. Season 6 is by far my most favorite season of the series. The Game Of Thrones mythology starts unraveling.