Is THIS English? (Tok Pisin)
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This is an updated re-release of last year's video about Tok Pisin - the lingua franca of Papua New Guinea, sometimes known as "Pidgin English".
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I have a question. If two languages are related, but not the same branch (e.g. a Slavic language and Persian), and many words are the same or similar: How do you know if these words are loanwords or the similarity is because both languages are from the same family?
for example, the words for 5 and 6 are almost the same in Polish/Russian and Persian, but the words for 1 and 7 are different. Did Persian borrow the words for 5 and 6? How can you tell?
@@zaynzayn8206 the comparative method
@@robdoghd
Thanks, just googled it. Seems complicated:/
@@zaynzayn8206 By comparing the words for 5 in different Slavic languages, and in different Indo-Iranian languages, we can tell that the Proto-Slavic word had a nasal vowel, while the Proto-Indo-Iranian word had a nasal consonant. We know that Indo-Iranian was spoken in Mitanni before it moved to its present locations, on the evidence of Kikkuli's book about horse training, which contains numbers. This was separated from Slavic by Anatolian languages and Greek, making borrowing unlikely.
Some Proto-Germanic numbers do not match what you'd expect if you do the sound changes to the PIE numbers. In particular, "four" (*fidwor) would be "*whour" (**hwidwor). This indicates borrowing, or at least influence, from some other language, possibly P-Italo-Celtic.
I find it quit interesting that Jamaican creole and tok pisin both borrowed the word for child from Portuguese.
It's in a lot of creole languages.
Also in the Dutch-English based creole language of Surinam. Pikin = child. Often palatised to pichin. The children go to school = Den pikin e go na skoro.
It’s now shortened to pickni. You won’t hear pickinini in Jamaican patois. I do see more similarities outside of the one you mentioned.
In the southern USA where I live, "pickaninny" - now considered extremely offensive - used to be a word for a black child. I always thought this word was unique to the American South, but perhaps this derives from Portugese and/or Caribbean creoles, similar to Tok Pisin "pikinini"? It was startling to see that a Tok Pisin word resembles an offensive word in my language.
We use pikin also in Nigerian pidgin
When will standard English catch up with the innovation of using Christmases as the primary unit of annual time?
Never 'cause it'll offend Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Bhuddists and Pagans.
@@ddsferd1628 "atheists" lol
@@ddsferd1628 Actually, many atheists celebrate Christmas, due to having absolutely no reason whatsoever not to. ;)
Source: Am an atheist.
You might as well be an atheist to celebrate Christmas, since it has nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
Christmas itself is pagan.
@@RK-li4sw it has Christ in it's name lol
Iam from PAPUA NEW GUINEA and thanks for explaining or elaborateing more on my language.
mi hamamas lo yu
Mi lakim bisla vidio tumas na mi hamamas lo disla vidio 😊
@@Levelgluey wsshh! kande mi tu yeh!! hap aste chol me kwapsim lili meri ya, sita blou bata sore ya sundei mi'go lotu
This guy deserves support, even if you are not interested in the content, he is doing a huge efford.
You should do more creole or pidgen languages. They are really interesting
I love them too! It's amazing the ways people work together to break down communication barriers.
I vote for Chinook!
That would be great since I speak a pidgin language (Hawaiian-Pidgin-English) and “proper” english 😊
Here:
Planti- plenty
Yu - you
Mi- I/me
Mi save- I know
Mi wari- I'm worried
Meri- lady
Man- male/man
Lewa- lover
Solwara- sea/Ocean
Fis- fish
Pukpuk- crocodile
Pisin- bird
Pilai- play
Bik skul- university or college
Longlong - crazy
Mangi- young boys
Kanaka- uneducated
Mi hot- I feel hot
Mi kol- I feel cold
Mi waswas- i'm having a shower
Em tasol- thats all
Tenkyu- Thank you
Marimari- blessings
Yu blo we?- where you from.
Yu Kam we?- where are you coming from?
Yu stap we?- where are you?
Mi blo Papua New Guinea- Im from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬
Belize kriol please
It kinda looks like English if its spelling actually made sense.
lol
@@kiyoponnn Lol. how true. English is a learned language for me. When I came into close contact with native English speakers (university grads), I noticed they are very weak spellers. Thanks spellcheck, that's solved. Spelling bee contests, only in the USA? Cheers
@@francissantos7448 ?
@@kiyoponnn you stupid
HIRI MOTU(Melanesian austronesian language) WAS SUPPOSE TO BE OUR LINGUA FRANCA BUT THANKS TO EUROPEAN COLONIZATION we used Tok Pisin instead
This language would be ideal for memes though
Tok *B O I*
There are actually Tok Pisin Memes. Lol 😁
I just googled Tok Pisin memes.
This is the most amazing thing I saw this week
Mi laik dis
@@juillotine "Mi lailim displa"
Hi Paul, am from Nigeria and i do not find tok pisin too difficult to understand. Tok pisin is kind of similar to Nigeria pidgin English. I think u should do video about Nigeria pidgin English too
Yeah i think so too
It's strange coz there's absolutely no historic link between West African and Melanesian pidgins and someone also said it was like Jamaican Patois which again has no link. What Paul didn't mention though that I have heard is that pidgins strangely all tend to adopt the same grammatical features to some extent regardless of what grammars the source languages have.
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So true, I jus bi lik awa pijin
Haha 100% ! i am half Liberian and half Papaua New Guinean! Its refreshing to see a comment like this🙏🏽
Paul, yu boi stret!
I learnt Tok Pisin in about 5 months when I was living in PNG. It's a great language! It seems like it has a narrow vocabulary, but there's a lot of idioms to convey more complex meanings. I never really got my head around these... there are few resources for learning Tok Pisin. But the one I remember most was something like 'Em i kaikai olgeta banana pinis' ('He has already eaten all the bananas'), which meant something like 'he has been here a long time'.
I'm left wondering if "all the bananas" is referring to all the individual bananas, or to all the different _kinds_ of banana. I hear PNG is one of those places where there are a _lot_ of different kinds of banana. It's a hilarious idiom either way.
In Bislama (Vanuatu's pijin) they say that too. "Hemi kakae olgeta banana finis." It's very hard to learn all the idioms unless you spend a great deal of time with locals.
@winglessmonkey & aaron H... PNG has the most banana species in the world..and yes the word banana covers all bananas..but if you want to be specific then we would have to use either a local tribal name or the the name of where that banana is grown..eg Rabaul Banana...from Rabaul..etc
Yu fast learner eh fit man👍🏽👍🏽🇵🇬🇵🇬
@@jmkmeripar4937 🤣🤣It's a joke of a language that you can learn quickly if you already know english
Mate you did a great job on this video. As a former Pidgin speaker from 47 years ago, its very interesting to see how pidgin has evolved and what words are now included as standard format pidgin, whereas previously the language was quite localised in many respects. i.e. Because the Madang area was formerly in German territory, the word moni, meaning money was spoken as Mark i.e. former German money in use in German occupied New Guinea. All the old blokes (tabuna) would draw their "Marks", which pre Kina days was in Australian dollars and cents, out of the bank every payday (every fortnight) in 10 cent coins, and arrange them in piles of 10 coins so they could be counted to check that the money was still there and no one had stolen it. This could mean several hundred dollars in 10 cent coins. Woh be tied if the bank didn't have enough 10 cent coins, it would would mean the money had been stolen. Almost a riot. 10 was the maxium that could be counted and required the asistance of someone trusted to help with the counting. All coins were counted as 1 pela. 2 pela, 3 pela, etc to 10 pela. The pronunciation was pla, and not pela. Once it was determined all the money was still being held by the bank, all the coins were put back in the bank. Old memories :
Fascinating (and funny). Thanks for sharing from a Kiwi!
This is really interesting, thanks for sharing!
@colmacjames
Can you teach how to speak pidgin?
I am Papua New Guinean and I thank you so much for your effort in making this video giving an accurate linguistic analysis of a language that we use every day. Thanks.
cool! 😊👍
Tok Pisin is such a beautiful language!
Tok pisin is hands-down my favourite language. I wish I had an opportunity to practice it.
Its quit simple if you practice a lot you'll understand it in no time......
EM ISI IF YU PRACTIS
PLENTI TAIM BAI YU UNDERSTANDIM LO SHORTPLA TAIM..O HARIAP
Bro it's easy
@@naikzero6158 Em i no isi long on wite man long lainim tok pisin kos em I no tok ples bilong ol 😭😭😭🇵🇬😥 it took me a minute to write this
@@jmkmeripar4937 NOT PLENTI IT'S PLANTI
Since it heavily inspired Toki Pona, you are probably far from the only one.
This has long been noted by linguists, but I still think it's amazing how nearly every creole language around the world has descendants of "saber" and "pequenino" from Portuguese
It's also the case that "to know" in Spanish is also "saber"!
Hey, Paul, tenkyu tru! Mi bin kirapim lainim Tok Pisin taim mi lukim Tok Pisin langfocus video bilong yu bepo. Ating olsem dispela niupela video em i gut tumas gen, plis mekim moa! Mi go long yunivesiti hia, Japan. Tok ples bilong mi Japan, na ples bilong mi Japan tu, olsem na mi oltaim amamas man husat lainim Japan i skulim planti tok ples. Mi laik wokabaut long PNG wantaim pren bilong mi! God blesim yu.
[ol manmeri i stap long PNG, yu save sampela pipel i lainim Tok Pisin hia, Japan? kisim lav bilong mipela!]
Hey, Paul, Thank you so much! I’ve started learning Tok Pisin when I saw your former LangFocus Tok Pisin vidéo before. It seems that this updated video also looks amazing again. Please make more videos on world languages! I go to an university here, Japan. I’m from Japan, and I speak Japanese. Therefore, I’m always happy to see a person who learns Japanese teaches world languages. I’d like to travel around PNG with my friends! God bless you.
do you know youtuber Mantappu Jiwa?
Where did you learn tok pisin?
Ahh bro, honest!! I ain't gonna lie , yu Lainm haripstrt yahh
Barata, tok pisin blo yu i gutpla stret. Yu save lo tok pisin, em yu mangi PNG pinis.. lukim yu sampela taim.
@@ilhammusyafa1418 thank you, I didn’t know.
At least they improved stupid english spelling
Non English speakers would be baffled that "fish" and "photo" both start with a "F" sound.
@@jjwp-ql5rv Only uneducated idiots who never heard of the Greek language or influence are baffled by "photo".
Contemporary English has “weird” spellings because it held onto the spellings from the olden days but shifted in pronunciation overtime.
Car is "ka" just like how the British pronounce it lol
@@SylveonSimp
I aren't baffled by it. I'm English. I was referring to someone who doesn't speak English, and knows none of the grammar. Not everyone would immediately know the Greek influence. That'd be expecting far too much from the average Joe.
Watching that news article was bizarre. It was like watching a video of a language you've studied a long time ago and you've half remembered vocabulary and phrases, but you couldn't quite remember it correctly.
My dude, that's exactly what I thought.
Oddly English creoles are not considered part of the English language family, instead they are combined into a family called English creole. That seems wrong to me, I bet if people applied the same standards to creoles as they do to other languages then most if not all of them would go straight into the Anglic language family.
Tok Pisin is similar to Jamaican Creole, which makes sense as they have a similar history since colonisation.
You got how many krismas?
Mi gat 22 krismas😊😊
(Today I learnt)
He said it wrong. Actually it is "you gat hamas krismas" ... but your answer is well said and written ...good job 👍👍👍
"You" is actually spelt as "yu" in Tok Pisin ☺️
Not quite but a great start.. I wonder what your tok pisin is like now since my comment is 2 years after....
Proud mix race PNG here. Side note- we also took words from Samoa as well! The Tok Pisin works for church is Lotu, which is the same for Samoa. The Tok Pisin word for break/relax is called Malolo, which is the same for png as well. Loved this video!
Samoa ?! That's a very long way away!
@@RobespierreThePoof thats a common mis-conception. whilst some words did 'come' from other austronesian languages, they were first adapted by niugini islanders aka the speakers of austronesian languages (for the most part). It was via these languages that the lingua franca borrowed these words. If you speak either one of the many austronesian languages spoken by a papua new guinean you will see what i mean. Remember, most if not all the papuan and austronesian languages spoken within the country of Papua New Guinea were established first before tokpisin came about and its true roots go back to blackbirding times where you have to address other creoles like pijin and bislama
@@RobespierreThePoofit clearly states why in this video, although the Pacific was also connected by seafaring long before first European contact.
I've been speaking pidgin nearly all my life and your break down of one of the languages I speak has blown my mind! I didn't even know some of the words I speak everyday have Portuguese origins! Bikpla tenk yu tumas lo sharim save bilong yu wantaim mipla! 🇵🇬🇵🇬
Tok Pisin circa 1936 which I saw mentioned in the “Pacific Monthly” - first time the Mail plane arrived in Rabaul, it was referred to as ka belongim Jesus (sorry my grammar is probably wrong, but you get the gist)
Listened to the news broadcast: as a native English speaker, I found the comprehensibility of the language similar to how I would hear Dutch or German. Every few words, there's one I recognize, and with the video, I can more-or-less understand what's going on. However, I certainly wouldn't say the two languages (English and Tok Pisin) are mutually intelligible, despite the shared origin.
Love this. I'm Papua New Guinean and speak Tok Pisin quite often, but this is the first time I have learned the history of my language. Tenk yu tru!
Which part of Png you from?Because if you are from the Niugini Islands,you would know like we all do.Our pidgin is consist of few words from German,Dutch and of cos Kuanua which is Tolai's language.
@@daintyflygirl4va I'm from the highlands. I'll admit I know of the German influence but aside from that, I had no idea. Since it's a trade language, it was given that there would be multiple influences, but I didn't know which.
Papua New Guinea is so fascinating. It would be cool if you did Papiamento
Great idea! I've lot of European-origined Dutch living in the different autonomous States of the Dutch West Indies (Aruba...) and it's really as if they were mixing Dutch and Portuguese !!! +Langfocus
We meet again. Hey, you changed your profile picture.
He did papiamento area years ago.
No eres cubano
I’ve been waiting for that video! I hope he does it
I understand that the "pela" suffix is derived from "fellow," and its use as a plural marker for pronouns can be explained by a tendency of the English sent to Queensland to say, for example, "you three fellows." The number morpheme can even be inserted before "pela." What I don't get was if the same people were saying "big-fellow doctor." It might have been reconstrued as an adjectival marker if it was common as a modified noun, and the stress was always on the adjective when it was used. It is fascinating what English-based creoles have grammaticalized that standard English has not.
Sounds plausible how the "pela" came about.
I think you're absolutely right in this regard, in Bislama (Vanuatu Pidgin), we say fela, instead of pela and has the same meaning. So "you three fellows" would become "yu tri fela'. Having the suffix fela after the example "big-fellow doctor" no longer acts as the plural marker but as an adjective. Literally it means "big doctor" but carries the meaning of most important or best doctor.
As a Papuan , my response would be that, the word pela is both a qualitative and quantitative place holder.. As in your case , bikpla dokta does no mean the huge male doctor (big fellow doctor ) . It means the Head Doctor whether male or female. For e.g , ''Bikpla Dokta blong ol Pikinini "means the Pediatric HOD or children's Head Doctor.
ol man'meri u'pela kam.. kam sidaun na harem passss'tem.., wanpela bik'pella memba blo 6 mile bai'kam na'totok lo hau ba'umi stretim disslaah.. probrem umi kolim gahv'mahn blo peeeeeee'en'gheeeeee kaii'kaahn blo meri blo praim ministtahh yehhhh husait nem'blem gen yah sore mi luss tin'ting
I'm Australian and have been to PNG and have had tok pisin spoken at me . As someone who was useless at French and Italian in high school I found tok pisin strangely understandable .
I love how pidgins and creole languages have a way of highlighting cultural creativity. Seeing a root language interpreted and used in all those new ways is really amazing.
Hi there...wonderful video about tokpisin..I just wanted to point out the word "tevel" is not often used for devil...usually tevel means evil spirit...the word Satun is mostly used for devil..and we use either Rausim or raus...rausim as in "rausim olgeta" remove them all" or raus long hia " get out of this place...
And also the pidign word for sin is pekato from latin peccatum...however only in church services now..not so much out on the streets....we notice that more english words are replacing tokpisin words today....for eg..20 years ago tokpisin word for blood was blut..but not most people under age of say 25 will both write and say blood....
But I will say thank you so much for your video.I have enjoyed this and the others you have done .such dedication ..thank you so much.
I think "maski" is derived from the Spanish "más que" or from Portuguese. Here in the Philippines, "maski/miski na" means "it doesn't matter"
lol "pinis"
I'm so mature
Yu sanap na kisim pusi.
You stand up and take the cat. (It was just a picture of a cat.)
They pronounce F as P and SH as S
Hahaha 😂😂 yep real mature. .Lmao
@@pierreabbat6157 I read it as "you shall not no kissing pussy" 😂😂😂
Mi laik pusim kok bilong mi, long kina bilong mary !
tok pisin might be one of the most mind blowing languages i have ever heard about. it's based on english but with the grammar and vocabulary WAY simplified, and gets tons of mileage from limited vocabulary, plus a huge variety of loanwords. it's even a rare example of german colonization leaving an impact on languages, and as a bilingual english/german speaker, i find that really neat.
Much of New Guinea Islands and Northern mainland New Guinea was German till WW1, but the influence after WW1 by German missionaries lasted into WW11 and then later British and Australians came by. Northern New Guinea is still largely German influenced.
This makes Tok Pisin sound as if it underwent the same evolution as English itself -- a Germanic trade language that incorporated a bunch of French vocabulary and forced it to follow Germanic grammar and pronunciation. Tok Pisin seems to have done the same with English and its Melanesian root language. That's really neat ...
Thank you!!
Yu sawe tru long tok pisin. 👍
I'm Papua New Guinean and I really appreciate this video! I just watched it out of curiosity and it is exceptionally impressive! Also, all your information and pronunciation was very accurate! Gutpla day long yu!
8:27 Oh, would you look at that! Apparently I spoke Tok Pisin yesterday without knowing!
hey I'm really happy because there is this video. I was actually born in PNG, to be praise, but now I'm in Indonesia so I forget tok Pisin. But I want to learn my birth place language😊
Barby did a good explanation of Papua New Guinea, it’s really fascinating. As the leader, I want you to do Papiamento
Thank you for putting PNG on the map ❤️ I'm from a mixed parentage of Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬 and the Solomon Islands 🇸🇧 and I speak both pidgins...we have White in-laws and it took them a long time to learn our pidgin.
I'm so proud to be from this very diverse country.
Tenk iu tumas long halivim blong u long apim nem blong PNG ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Wow 👍👍much love from Uganda,East Africa ❤️❤️❤️🤝
Hey, Mi lukim olsem yu gat wanpela Video bilong Tok Pisin !?! Mi no save pinis. Gutpela samting. Mi amamas tru lukim em. Tenkyu.
pls uncol inap lo kaikai bol blo'ol wa'it mahn yeh
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 Wanem samting ?
It's been long time we've not seen Paul's dog, have we? :-0
Hey. Sometimes a man gets hungry and ordering from the local Chinese just aint gonna satisfy that urge
@@nicosmind3 WTF
Little Cripple Here, have a Snicker’s. You’re not you when you’re hungry.
I'm pretty sure I remember reading someone saying the dog passed a couple years ago. Poor thing.
@@jeremias-serus Thats such a shite ad
In the news broadcast, I heard the word ‘bagarap’ and couldn't help but laugh. I had forgotten that word and it caught me by surprise.
J.A. Brown bagarap means spoiled/bad
Halo Paul! Mi mi save toktok long Bislama, hemi wan lanwis long Vanuatu i gat klosap saun long Tok Pisin!
Mi mi man blong Ostrelia, be mama blong mi mo papa blong mi hemi kam long Turkey taem mama papa i bin pikinini!
"macht nichts " means literally "makes nothing" (does not do anything)
Macht nichts means actually it doesn't matter or de rien, de nada, nothing to thank or it isn't too bad etc.
@@almond3762 in this context, right. I mean, you can say to a lazy person: er macht nichts, although the emphasis is on the nichts.
@@SchmulKrieger Small warrior
That's the literal meaning for that expression in italian as well actually ("non fa niente" "it doesn't do/make anything")
I've familiarized myself a little with Tok Pisin before in the past, and it's my impression that when TP doesn't have a word to describe a newer concept, it just adopts a proper English term unchanged, similar to how Filipinos mix Tagalog and English ol de taim.
Somehow I really loved this language. It feels so free and ungoverned.
Translation of your sentence....⬇️⬇️⬇️
"SUMAU MI laikim displa TOKPLES STRET.em feel fri na no kontrol..
Jar Jar Abrams spoiled the nobel savage aspect of english pidgin/creaol languages for me.
Me after watching any of your videos:
You know I'm some sort of a linguist myself.
Lol haha yes, yes I do concur 🧐😂
I am 🇦🇺 who worked on contract in Malasia and PNG. Initially I was felt like I was talking down to people when I tried to imitate the simplified grammar of Mangish lah. After being forced to Tok Pigin all my hangups about creole languages went away.
Can mangle-english lah. No problim lah.
I wonder how quickly an English speaker can learn Tok Pisin?
to the point of understanding - quite quickly. need exposure, tis all. to speak fluently - no idea)) but English background is a big advantage, i think.
Just a few months of intensive learning, maybe a few weeks if you are an experienced language learner
@@jan_kisan согласен
Took me 3 months....but I was living there so...
I learned to understand it inside 6 months. I can't speak it all that well, because I have almost no chance to actually practice it, but I listen to the ABC's Tok Pisin service and I can understand at least 95% of the broadcast.
Where was this when I wrote about it in Highschool. Loved the video! :)
I have a odd urge to see famous quotes from Lord of the Rings in Tok Pisin. "You shall not pass!" ???
_You chaltop!_ lol
Awlrite, Kep yaw sekrits
That's easy. ... "stap"
Mr.Amazing lah? U Singaporean or smth?
de tek de hobit to isengat
when i was a kid at sunday school in the 90s we learnt a hymn in Tok Pisin (including hand actions) from some missionaries who had returned from PNG. The hymn was "Jesus Loves Me". Id be grateful if anyone could link me a video if one exists. All i can find is the lyrics.
Is it titled in tok pisin as "Jesus laikim olgeta"?
@@nathanndruwin1782 that sounds like it!
Oh that song, 😊
I'm from png and i have learnt alot about my own language. ..thank you very much 💛❤
as a brazilian, seeing the word pikinini put a smile on my face. such a cute word
eu também kkkkk
0:50 Dead right! As a Tok Pisin speaker and a native Papua New Guinean, your assessment is impeccable! Well done. You did your research well!!!
Can you teach me?😊😊
@@Jazz-tv7jr , I can if you are serious. Your call. Its going to be free, of course
Susu isnt necisarilly directly from contact with Indonesia but it's actually the Austronesian word for milk or breastfeeding in most of the pacific countrys.
I (tok pisin) when im on my phone in the bathroom
Tok pisin feels like an easy and cool language to know. I whish there would be a way to learn it online
Thought the same
its quite easy to learn..if you live in png, solomon islands or vanuatu for a year, you should be able to pick it up.
Don't believe the tok pisin dictionaries online ( ol lain makim gyaman ol putin on gyaman words inside also ol grammar bilong ol I no rait tu...... Translation the people making it are lying their putting fake words also their grammars Aren't correct
Pela is exactly like Chinese 的 when after an adjective!
Back in the early 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, our 3 main official trading languages were:-
English
Pidgin
Motu
Now regrettably Pidgin has taken over so rapidly that even the remote villages are speaking it, starting from the very young to the old. Sadly the “tok ples” is dying out, where villagers don’t speak their own languages anymore. Pidgin has taken over!!! Shame, shame on us!!!!
Oh my goodness this is hilarious😂 but this is also very interesting
Tok pisin 2022
Sapos = sas
Bilong = blong/blo
Pela = pla "bikpla"
Pikinini = piknini
Hearing it spoken by locals in a conversation will be very confusing to understand as they'd most likely shorten the words and speak faster. Plus the varied dialect and interjections or conjunction such as "aiii mahhhn", "aiyo" "yaa" "ohhh" mostly every beginning and ending of a phrase.
It really is confusing.
I'd really like to see you post videos in sync with @GeographyNow (who recently did a video on PNG). I think you two Pauls could really complement each other.
Collabs are for vloggers and makeup girls. To you guys it’s just like “Cool! A collab!” But to us it’s a massive logistical nightmare. Especially for videos like mine that are total wildcards and can’t be reliably done on a schedule, and require laser focus for weeks at a time. If these were cookie cutter “10 French Swear Words!!” type videos, maybe it would be different.
As half Kuwait and PNG, I speak Tok Pisin when talking to my parents and siblings. I used English when talking to others because am in Kuwait. But Tok Pisin keep changing with the generation. Some Tok Pisin words used in 70s to 90s are no longer used. Those words were being replace with English words with a little twist. When I visit my cousins in PNG, I was using old Tok Pisin words that I learnt during my childhood in PNG and they were using new ones that sound so fancy...by then I knew I need to update my Tok Pisin. Example, my uncle explain something to me. But instead of saying "Pe bilong en i antap tru" (means the price is so high), he said "ekspensiv" (expensive)
Yes bata.. I still admire the earlier, raw tok pisin. See I just used "bata" instead of "barata" without realizing it. Guess it just happens.
Raw tok pisinnis beautiful especially when you hear taim ol tumbuna i save tak out lo kibung. The poetry, the alegories are amazing. It is artistry!
as a toki pona enthusiast I couldnt not comment: "wow there is so much similarities in Tok Pisin and toki pona". Tok Pisin probably was also inspiration for Sonja Lang and thats awesome! It makes me wanna learn much more about Tok Pisin :)))
🌑: it was an influence. As I literally just found out. Least, according to one Toki Pona dictionary - nimi.li
It's changing rapidly. Lived there for nearly 4 decades. Left 2 years ago. I noticed that the predicate marker is often dropped now eg em go long taun pinis rather than em i.
So true.. pela is becoming pla.. so on.
Right, Tokpisin is evolving all the time.
pela is pla, now, i is omitted for speediness.
Ol I kam nau,,, Ol kam nau.
Geography Now just did an episode on Papua New Guinea
thx u so much
i find GN only bc of your comment
@@awake5196 No problem.
I wonder, why people turn the finger down under such videos. If they are not interested in the subject, they simply needn't watch it or listen to it. Not to waste their time 🐱🐱
It's all good.
Exactly!
to keep the universe balanced
@@alejrandom6592 Such a simple reason?! Can't believe it...
yeah don't worry we're on the right side ;)
This should replace English as the global lingua franca
That would be neat!
Yes
Tbh making a creole is a good project for amateur conlangers and a good excuse to re-use all the words that they really liked when crafting the parent languages in the future
So.. basically anyone from the southern rural area can communicate almost perfect in png. A lot of the pronunciation are very similar to what I grew up around. Great video!
Great video about a fascinating language. Thank you Paul. But from the link to the news, I only understood some single words and no complete sentences.
I think it would be interesting to discuss how pidgin languages transform over time. I spent about a year in the Solomon Island in 1999 and 2000, then went back in 2019 and even in those 20 years I feel some of the common terms and colloquialisms had changed quite a bit.
Thanks for highlighting such a fun part of the world. It’s interesting how even with a basic language, I never truly felt unable to communicate unless I was discussion something of a technical nature.
Singsing = party. Makes sense.
I went to boarding school in the 90's with PNG boys. Ones was my best mate at school
I fully express myself when I utilize both languages at the same time (obviously when speaking with someone who understands both).
Otherwise, I'm impressed at the way you theorized this.
Thank you for explaining. Yes my country PNG has over 800 different languages and Tok Pisin is the language that connects us all.🇵🇬
This seems very simular to an english based esperanto with some spice.
Yes Tok Pisin is a special language derived from various countries... mainly used in the wars in ww2 so whites could communicate with pngs... thanks for sharing my language to the world 🙏🏾🙏🏾🇵🇬🇵🇬🙌🏾🙌🏾 stap wantaim yu #wanbel
Mi bilong tru long pinis.
Is that correct?
Uhm.....I'm from tru to finish...🤔
I'm from really from finish
pinis
I love how Paul means confused in Tok Pisin
The news headlines in Tok Pisin were a hoot. I especially liked that dramatic story about the flooding and the pikininis couldn't go long skul.
It almost sounded like Brazil try to speak English but with all the English words in Portuguese spelling. Weird.
Pidgins and Creole usually have grammar that is different from the native languages altogether. They have a simplified grammar that is easier for people to pick-up quickly.
Wow, you made me understand my own Tok Pisin and where all the words came from.
Eye opener video.
Thank you!
Georgianna
Papua New Guinea
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I watched the news broadcast you reference.
The pattern of flow and intonation and stress seems very English. The words mostly are not.
We had some guys at work that had spent time in PNG. We all ended up using the "me no savvy boss, me no lookim" phrase as a replacement for "i dont know whats going on , i didn't see what happened"
where do you work, in london?
I love Pidgin. Firstly: interesting; secondly: amusing.
Just looking at random tok pisin sentences and trying to guess their etymological origin feels like a fun puzzle lol
Mi hamamas, yu bilong narapela kantri laikim TokPisin.
( " I am happy you people from another country like Tok Pisin.)😊😊
@@l.k5244 it's so difficult since most words came from Portuguese,German,Malay And Many austronesian languages 😥😥😥 And to think if PNG didn't have (Tok pisin) how can they have communicate with 851 different languages 🇵🇬😭
Ughh hau ol ba tok tok waintaim ol narapela lain bilong ol
@@katahi0749 Hahaha.. I've imagined this myself countless times and the results were a big hilarious cluster-f***! Imagine this, my grandmother is from the neighbouring village (which is just over, say 500 meters to the west). Not one vocabulary is the same, not even similar! How did the neighbouring villagers communicate? Simple, they learnt both languages :) although we all know which language belongs to who. These days, my mother, her siblings and her generation, may be the last to speak both languages fluently as tok pisin dominates. It's a sad reality faced throughout the country's native languages.
It's been long time we've not seen Paul's dog, have we? :-0
He's been busy producing.
@@Langfocus yeah. Dog biscuits. It is producing dog biscuits.
So... Tok Pisin is spoken in .png files?
Ba dumm tsss...
Creoles are really interesting. Also, it's really striking how the speaker in this video velarizes the l and aspirates the voiceless stops.
I vaguely remember something from the solomons along these lines: "gavman helt woning: smok redusim fitnes bilong yu".
"government health warning:smoking damages your health", but it seems like it says in literal terms "smoking reduces the fitness that belongs to you"
"simoka save (savvy) rediusim fitness bilong yiu"..go figure😁😁
Excellent video, as always, and on a rather obscure and unusual language, Tok Pisin. And thanks for the video link to the Tok Pisin news broadcast. Very interesting.
My first language is English. So maybe I can learn this language! I wonder if Duolingo has this as an option
I don't think they have it. There aren't a lot of people who learn Tok Pisin.
So, they literally ask me how many time I celebrate the christmast, to know my age? That's kinda clever
Thank you so much for your explanation of my tok ples .. tenkiu tumas .. WANTOK BLO MI
thank you Paul, this is very interesting. It felt like witnessing how languages might have developed in past times. I definitely am a language enthusiast!
Its uncannily like toki pona, yeah, i know toki pona was primarily driven by tok pisin, but even more than I thought, like "i" in tok pisin, "li" in toki pona does the same things, like exxactly.
I'm glad I stumbled upon this video, I'm from PNG, i live in PNG, and can only speak pidgin and English, pidgin has definitely changed a lot. I was surprised by this word 'baimbai' im 26 and I've never used it and never heard someone use it in a sentence, it's usually 'bai' or just 'ba'.
I find that tok pisin is sufficient to say everything in a normal day to day conversation. I personally find it difficult when I want to explain something that's complicated and has a lot of English words that don't translate to tok pisin
noken tok mi tu faul long "baimbai" ating ol bubu bilong yumi tasol bai save 😂😂
@@justabloke007 Tru tumas. Em i wanpela 'archaic' samting i stap long Jacaranda Dictionary tasol.
"Bambai" was in common usage in the 1970's when I was a kid and it found its way into the Tok Pisin Bible and some of the Christian songs of that day "Yumi bung bambai, yumi bung long gutpela ples" LOL. But in the past 30 or 40 years, it has fallen out of usage.
Tenkyu ya plis. You did great to explain my language which I know less in terms of its origin. Laikim u nating tru.
It’s interesting how languages as widely spread out as Jamaican patois and Tok Pisin both borrowed the same word from Spanish/Portuguese to mean child.
And "to know" (not for Jamaican, but other CECs did).
Kilian Hekhuis Good point