"100 million dollars of revenue annually coming into Los Angeles from DMV fees, parking fees, traffic violations..." Looool! In 2017 LA had around 8 million paying registrations of cars, trucks, trailers and motorcycles. So the average sum of all fees and all tickets for each one is $12.5? Fuck outta here... If everybody would only pay non-operations, the revenue would be higher already!
Lyft's point of view, all a bit rosy, self driving is much harder of a problem to solve than anyone expected. Also the rest mostly talking point templates that have been told thousands of times. If you want an in depth talk check out the MobilEye's talks, actually worth the time watching unlike this sales pitch.
Jan Detlefsen - Actually not that long ago self driving vehicles were considered impossible, or at the very least many decades away. Now, pretty much every prediction, including those from the NTSB, say the mid 2020s will likely see many autonomous cars on the road.
No, city folk will not give up their cars for this. Many of them already have given up their cars, because of the cost of storage and the horrible city traffic, but the ones that have not done so already will be very hard to coax. They will not want to share rides - the reason many of them still have cars is that they do not want to share a subway or bus with threatening or questionable people. As you move out from the cities, through suburbia to the country, you will find far fewer people willing to give up their own car. In my dotage, I am hoping to have a self-driving car to get me around, but I want it to be my car, with my stuff in it, awaiting my command. Many of the suppositions in this talk are the same sorry ones that have been trotted out to push mass transit for decades. How many times have we heard "We have to get people out of their cars"? People stubbornly cling to their cars for very good reasons that are understood by everyone but public policy advocates. The idea that these people must be "thwarted" tells us much about the proponents. No, I am not willing to walk a few minutes to make the Lyft pickup more "efficient" and, even if I was, I would be less likely to do so if it is raining or freezing outside, so expect these efficient systems to come unglued when the weather changes. Don't try to design and sell this stuff as an incremental improvement on what is - create the best possible ride experience, engage the Rockefellers, and let it sift down to the general public, just as happened with cars a century ago. I have seen or read many talks recently about our autonomous vehicle future and hyperloop-type transportation - they were all inspiring. This one seemed negative to me, more concerned with solving non-problems and changing behavior. Maybe it is just the mood I was in, but really, just go forth, build well and preach less.
I think Raj Kapoor repeatedly used a figure of 50% penetration. We should not assume the proportion of drivers giving up their cars must approach 100%. It may not. Or it may get to 50% quickly, but above 90% may take much longer. Time will tell. Those parade photos are popping up all over. They may become the Earthrise photos of this time. So many different transportation options popping up, including new mass transit ideas, 2-wheelers, shared tiny scooters, all kinds of stuff. Have you seen the 1906 SF videos? We may be going back to something like that, just in a new way. BTW if you don't have to drive, getting there fast may not be such an imperative anyway. There's just so much new stuff to sort out.
Whoever uploads these, keep em comin!
These Global Summit keynotes are incredible, such good content from top-notch speakers. Thank so much for these educational videos! :D
Absolutely amazing and very good information. Makes perfect sense and is very realistic.
i like this guy...seems very intelligent
I have a friend who works with lyfts self driving car. They just sit around all day troubleshooting. They rarely go anywhere.
"100 million dollars of revenue annually coming into Los Angeles from DMV fees, parking fees, traffic violations..."
Looool! In 2017 LA had around 8 million paying registrations of cars, trucks, trailers and motorcycles. So the average sum of all fees and all tickets for each one is $12.5? Fuck outta here... If everybody would only pay non-operations, the revenue would be higher already!
Lyft's point of view, all a bit rosy, self driving is much harder of a problem to solve than anyone expected. Also the rest mostly talking point templates that have been told thousands of times. If you want an in depth talk check out the MobilEye's talks, actually worth the time watching unlike this sales pitch.
Jan Detlefsen - Actually not that long ago self driving vehicles were considered impossible, or at the very least many decades away. Now, pretty much every prediction, including those from the NTSB, say the mid 2020s will likely see many autonomous cars on the road.
No, city folk will not give up their cars for this. Many of them already have given up their cars, because of the cost of storage and the horrible city traffic, but the ones that have not done so already will be very hard to coax. They will not want to share rides - the reason many of them still have cars is that they do not want to share a subway or bus with threatening or questionable people. As you move out from the cities, through suburbia to the country, you will find far fewer people willing to give up their own car. In my dotage, I am hoping to have a self-driving car to get me around, but I want it to be my car, with my stuff in it, awaiting my command.
Many of the suppositions in this talk are the same sorry ones that have been trotted out to push mass transit for decades. How many times have we heard "We have to get people out of their cars"? People stubbornly cling to their cars for very good reasons that are understood by everyone but public policy advocates. The idea that these people must be "thwarted" tells us much about the proponents.
No, I am not willing to walk a few minutes to make the Lyft pickup more "efficient" and, even if I was, I would be less likely to do so if it is raining or freezing outside, so expect these efficient systems to come unglued when the weather changes. Don't try to design and sell this stuff as an incremental improvement on what is - create the best possible ride experience, engage the Rockefellers, and let it sift down to the general public, just as happened with cars a century ago.
I have seen or read many talks recently about our autonomous vehicle future and hyperloop-type transportation - they were all inspiring. This one seemed negative to me, more concerned with solving non-problems and changing behavior. Maybe it is just the mood I was in, but really, just go forth, build well and preach less.
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Hey Raj, stop SHOUTING. I tried to listen to the whole thing but no matter how low I put the volume the vibe of shouting is really annoying.
Yeah dude. You have very interesting things to say, keep talking.
I think Raj Kapoor repeatedly used a figure of 50% penetration. We should not assume the proportion of drivers giving up their cars must approach 100%. It may not. Or it may get to 50% quickly, but above 90% may take much longer. Time will tell.
Those parade photos are popping up all over. They may become the Earthrise photos of this time.
So many different transportation options popping up, including new mass transit ideas, 2-wheelers, shared tiny scooters, all kinds of stuff. Have you seen the 1906 SF videos? We may be going back to something like that, just in a new way. BTW if you don't have to drive, getting there fast may not be such an imperative anyway.
There's just so much new stuff to sort out.
The horse and buggy bit feels like it was taken from Tony Seba.
share a car at 6 am on a monday morning?