Danzo vs The Akatsuki

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  • Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:49 - How Strong is Danzo?
    5:35 - vs Hidan
    7:29 - vs Deidara
    10:00 - vs Sasori
    14:20 - vs Kisame
    19:22 - vs Kakuzu
    22:41 - vs Konan
    25:18 - vs Orochimaru
    27:54 - vs Pain
    30:17 - vs Itachi/Obito
    31:27 - Kotoamatsukami
    #anime #naruto
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  • @mitchbs6794
    @mitchbs6794 Рік тому +374

    For me, i never underestimated or found Danzo to be weak. They just made him so grimy and unlikeable that you always rooted for his loss

    • @moneybag2times53
      @moneybag2times53 Рік тому +27

      Perfectly said, hate him but at the same time he was literally the hokage, had the mangekyo sharingan, hashirama cells, like 10 fully mastered sharingan and could rewrite reality. Not to mention had shown relativity with Dms sasuke who has shown feats on multiple Kage including Lcm amped Ay, also had the susanoo..

    • @breyonhopkins4795
      @breyonhopkins4795 Рік тому +22

      I actually really like Danzo. 3rd was a weak leader and Danzo lived in the reality.
      He is a breath of fresh air from the samo "never kill anyone" bs Naruto and crew be on

    • @spit-fire
      @spit-fire Рік тому +3

      @@breyonhopkins4795 he did the frog in my profile pic wrong. Kosuke deserved better, RIP

    • @zainy_inc154
      @zainy_inc154 Рік тому +5

      Same, if anything I always thought he was hiding huge power

    • @zainy_inc154
      @zainy_inc154 Рік тому +2

      ​@@breyonhopkins4795 he did wonders for the mature world building later in Shippuden

  • @historyking9984
    @historyking9984 Рік тому +185

    Everyone underestimates Danzo. People forget that he caught Sasuke in a binding curse and was going to kill him. The only reason Sasuke didn’t die was that his hatred and his susanoo evolved mid fight as Danzo mocked Itachi. Because Obito was there and he was waiting to fight him he conserved his chakra and resorted to physical attacks such as when he sent Karin flying with a kick shattering some rocks. So his physical abilities must be higher than people think.

    • @Actionfigure_fit
      @Actionfigure_fit Рік тому +15

      With that logic you can also say, The only reason Danzo didn’t die sooner is because Obito wanted Sasuke to dive deeper into darkness, Obito could have easily killed Danzo with much less effort than a Sasuke that was still getting used to his powers

    • @polariluma
      @polariluma Рік тому +41

      ​@@Actionfigure_fit the difference is your example is irrelevant because the point is danzo being underestimated. Everyone knows Obito is a powerhouse, the manga makes that clear.

    • @historyking9984
      @historyking9984 Рік тому +7

      @@Actionfigure_fit that doesn’t make any sense. Obito’s broken anyways. He was far above Sauke by that point it makes no sense to compare them. Also he didn’t know how Sasuke would evolve . He didn’t plan on letting him out till eventually Sasuke asked. And when Danzo was gonna kill Sauke Obito used his mangekyo ability and was gonna save Sasuke . Lastly Danzo’s subordinates figured out Obito’s abilities extremely fast and even partialy counted them as Obito lost his arm against them. Danzo could figure out that fast as well. And Danzo even when facing Sasuke was holding back knowing he’d have to face Madara after. Lastly Danzo already wasted Shisui’s eye at the very start of the fight .

    • @_Seru_
      @_Seru_ Рік тому +6

      @@historyking9984 They never countered anything, Obito wasn't fighting them seriously. The Hashirama cells arm he sacrificed was only because he has to touch his enemies in order to transport them to the kamui dimension and he was fighting one opponent in a million who was harmful when touched. They were outclassed in every way. So would be Danzo, Obito stomps him any day with negative difficulty.

    • @commodorezero
      @commodorezero Рік тому +1

      @@Actionfigure_fit Tbh Obito had no plans for Sasuke beyond using him to fight Danzo here. After this fight they would never have interacted again if Sasuke doesn't choose to change sides. This implies Obito needed or at least found it preferable for Sasuke to fight Danzo for him.

  • @Shadowsmoke11
    @Shadowsmoke11 Рік тому +52

    I've never clicked faster on a video before. Danzo is my favorite character from Naruto Shippuden. He is so underrated when it comes to to power scaling/versus videos, especially considering that he is actually extremely powerful and skilled who also possess many hax abilities that would overpower 90% of the Naruto verse.

    • @CelestQB
      @CelestQB Рік тому +6

      He lost to teen sasuke and got killed 10+ times 💀 Danzo is fodder lmfao.

    • @Prince_Luci
      @Prince_Luci Рік тому +8

      @@CelestQB idk about Fodder. Sasuké just ran the 5 Kage summit gauntlets implying he’s above Kage level. But Yeah, Mei is probably packing Danzo up tbh.

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому +9

      @@CelestQB the fight was extreme diffficulty and sasuke left the fight with fatal injuries, no chakra, and near blindness.
      Danzo did this while fighting in base and while holding back as stated by him and other reliable sources.
      This same sasuke while much weaker could fight all the kage individually and was contending with Kakashi who could fight tendo pain.

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому +3

      @@CelestQB any of the kage including everyone from team 7 at the time would get one shot 10 times over if engaged cqc with enraged mangekyo sasuke

    • @ffbear8078
      @ffbear8078 Рік тому +7

      If it wasn't for Obito interference then Sasuke would've died. Last ditch effort sealing technique should've taken Sasuke out

  • @whoknows8587
    @whoknows8587 Рік тому +47

    One thing i think should also be mentioned in these fights is danzos suicide seal that could possibly take some of these characters by surprise and is big enough to seal multiple people and has a surprise factor to it

    • @raymondnickolas608
      @raymondnickolas608 Рік тому +5

      True enough, but Obito and Sasuke did get away so I assume most of the Akatsuki could get away as well

    • @sawyerfan5056
      @sawyerfan5056 Рік тому +2

      @@raymondnickolas608 Tbf Obito knew what was gonna happen so i dont think we should count that

  • @MasquedJustice
    @MasquedJustice 11 місяців тому +14

    the thing about Sasori v. Danzo is that Sasori's poison stays an instant win con if he hits Danzo even once. The poison paralyzes him right away, but it takes days to actually kill, which means Danzo's doesn't die while izanagi is active. He dies well after

    • @davidnewhart2533
      @davidnewhart2533 4 місяці тому +6

      Izanagi would get rid of the poison. Izanagi doesn't just get rid of death, it gets rid of anything disadvantageous.

  • @TylerJ0412
    @TylerJ0412 Рік тому +24

    Its nice to see someone legitimately go over Kakuzu's abilities and scaling and not just consider him fodder or do the overused Kakuzu is stronger than Pain jokes. His Earth style skin harding jutsu was only able to be penetrated by lightning style like Kakashi did to him and he had very powerful elemental jutsu. Not to mention the fact he almost killed Kakashi in the fight and was only because of Shikamaru's blood plan working at the perfect time that he didnt get killed.

    • @historyking9984
      @historyking9984 Рік тому +8

      Exactly. If Kakazu had all his hearts it would’ve been over for Kakashi and even Naruto

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Рік тому +13

      Like I never subscribed to him being this God but, he definitely got shafted hard in his fight due to every conceivable counter to him

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 Рік тому +7

      Literally dumbasses out there in the community who think he's fodder and scales to Naruto post rasenshuriken training, nevermind the amount of plot armor bullshit he had on his side and Kakashi had to sneak up on him to destroy even one of his hearts. He also fought evenly in taijutsu with kakashi and proceeded to completely outbox choji. Kakashi even only admitted that he could have won with the sharingan, which is proof that he literally could have only defeated kakuzu with kamui. Kakuzu is massively underrated. Man fought hashirama and survived against him.

  • @Josh17656
    @Josh17656 Рік тому +20

    If I recall, the reason obito was able to survive the ten minutes of paper bombs with only one izanagi wasn't because his was better and it lasted the whole time. I believe konan stated that she had some Intel that obito could only stay intangible with kamui for 5 minutes, so she made paper bombs to go off for double that.
    I believe the idea was that he was intangible, came out of it with izanagi, died, came back however izanagi works then went intangible again for the remaining time.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Рік тому +5

      Ohh that’s an interesting take, I will say it’s more implied he just izanagi’d the ten minutes just cause the eye goes blind on screen when he comes out of it was easier it would have already been blind

    • @Josh17656
      @Josh17656 Рік тому +4

      @@ThunderGodTG I see, well I'll definitely defer to you as you're knowledge is way better than mine and I'm going off my vague memory from the first time I read/watched all this. But I could have sworn there was a line where Konan stated that she knew Obito/Tobi could only be intangible for 5 minutes (this was before it was revealed to be Kamui and there was still some mystery to his jutsu). Maybe I'll go re read that part of the Manga and see if I come away with the same opinion or not after refreshing myself on it.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Рік тому +2

      Yeah that’s entirely correct that’s his limit in terms of Kamui, since it was in reference to his ability to continually shift through attack, she had no idea about kamui or how long it works. I also say he Izanagi’d for ten minutes since he breaks the right side of his mask implying he’s about to use the jutsu before she sets it off.

    • @Josh17656
      @Josh17656 Рік тому +4

      @@ThunderGodTG so I went back and re read the relevant chapters. After doing so I definitely see why I thought the way I did and I'd even say it's all left vague enough that I wouldn't be completely unjustified for still thinking that way. But there's enough small context clues to lean toward him just having a better izanagi. Konan definitely does say that he can only Kamui for roughly 5 minutes and made enough paper bombs to continually go off for 10. But I see what you're saying about him reaching to break his mask before the bombs go off at all and that along with him implying that Danzo's izanagi was inferior due to him not being able to handle the Hashirama cells at well.
      Frankly though I kinda like the way I had it in my head. Obito barely making it out of there by thinking on the fly, using Kamui to the max, then izanagi to revive then Kamui again. Makes it more strategic and feel like more of a close call than him just having an op izanagi.
      Sorry for the wall of text, but thanks for going back and forth with me on this!

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Рік тому +2

      No problem! I always enjoying having these types of discussions especially if it’s on something I may have misinterpreted or maybe there’s a way of thinking I did it consider ✊🏻

  • @flareinc7413
    @flareinc7413 Рік тому

    No matter if the video was long,was so worth it. Thank you :)

  • @QdamasterAnimations
    @QdamasterAnimations Рік тому +16

    My friend sent me this one , I love this no one ever mentions characters like danzo

    • @playfulshop
      @playfulshop Рік тому

      Shut up nerd, where my pesticides discount man🧍🏽‍♂️🙎🏽

  • @SweetSourDog
    @SweetSourDog Рік тому +72

    I actually like Danzio. His wind style is so underrated and so cool visually

    • @Jesse-df9fz
      @Jesse-df9fz Рік тому +10

      danzo is interesting af, wide range of jutsu plus that old age wisdom and scumbag dirty tactics, he's dangerous

    • @fs5866
      @fs5866 Рік тому +2

      Danzo would get bodied by Sasori, kakuzu, kisame, Itachi, obito, pein, orochimaru.

    • @ImJsB1
      @ImJsB1 7 місяців тому +2

      @@fs5866bro tried to sneak sasori in there

  • @isshinkurosaki252
    @isshinkurosaki252 Рік тому

    Fire video as usual, really needed this one as I was mad underrating Danzo apparently and I'm assuming I'm not the only one lol. Also this just goes to show how even in base the Sannin are monsters, considering this Sasuke and Naruto Equivalent are just surpassing them.

  • @atcandotherthings4985
    @atcandotherthings4985 Рік тому +2

    Heck yeah !! Never saw swagkage do this video thanks for regular uploads

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Рік тому +1

      ✊🏻🔥 thank you for the kind words bri

  • @iratezombiemann
    @iratezombiemann Рік тому +16

    I'm pretty confident Itachi also had izanagi. Dude literally knew its hard counter, so he'd be able to escape koto too if he wanted.

    • @auzzieankai8354
      @auzzieankai8354 Рік тому +3

      agreed

    • @Reality-Distortion
      @Reality-Distortion 6 місяців тому

      How can you escape Koto if you are unaware you're in it?

    • @iratezombiemann
      @iratezombiemann 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Reality-Distortion Well that's the thing about both the precognition of sharingan and the proactive nature of izanagi. I'm sure there'd be a tell Itachi of all people could read

  • @Prince_Luci
    @Prince_Luci Рік тому +144

    Respectfully, Deidara solo’s. “I can resurrect 12 times” “cool I’ll just nuke you from orbit for the next two hours.”
    There’s nothing in Danzo’s arsenal that can consistently give him a win condition. We see him use and get caught and fail the one genjutsu “attack” he attempts against Mifune the samurai. Immediately found out. His sharingan are effective enough to see the micro bombs designed for Itachi and countered by sasuke because he happens to be one of like 4 living people capable of coursing lightning infused chakra through their entire body. He’s quick but his summon is a large stationary beast. One bomb to the suction mouth and that things gone. And he has nothing in his arsenal that can get him in range. Gaara, Sasuké, and Sai all have flight in some capacity and only Sai and Sasuké really tag him.
    Deidara clears a solid 7/10 times. Sharingan Genjutsu could work, izanagi could catch him off-guard. But if he plays it like he did against Gaara, unlikely.

    • @CityEscapist1220
      @CityEscapist1220 Рік тому +23

      He’ll run out of clay

    • @Prince_Luci
      @Prince_Luci Рік тому +42

      @@CityEscapist1220 not before he runs out of eyeballs.

    • @descendantofartorias2067
      @descendantofartorias2067 Рік тому +39

      ​@@Prince_Luci Sasuke was shown to be faster than Deidara and Danzo is relative to summit Sasuke's speed. Danzo also has a wide variety of ranged attacks. Deidara won't be able to stay in the air because Danzo can take out his birds wings with wind style shurhikin or he can bring him to the ground with his summoning.

    • @orochimarupr
      @orochimarupr Рік тому +5

      🧢

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому +25

      Danzo shoots deidara out of the sky with a single wind bullet and calls it a day.
      Or genjustu GG
      Or he spawns on top of deidara and paralyzes him

  • @fellowkrieger457
    @fellowkrieger457 Рік тому +1

    Really interesting video. Good job man.

  • @omegaink5635
    @omegaink5635 Рік тому +1

    Another dope video

  • @lancelotl12-y1e
    @lancelotl12-y1e Рік тому +2

    yk you always make interesting Naruto content

  • @Stolas9
    @Stolas9 Рік тому +14

    Guys, everyone misunderstands Konan. Look at the page at 24:28. "My sacred paper emissary jutsu... Has come undone..." She is "unhitable" until she has chakra! She doesn't need to activate anything. Until she has chakra, you can't harm her, because she's made out of paper. Period. Jiraiya was able to counter her, because of oil, which has different effect than water and cancels that jutsu and made her vulnerable. So no, Danzou's first Izanagi wouldn't work, she doesn't have to activate anything, it's automatic for her until she has chakra.
    Even Six missed this part about Konan in one of his videos and I've never seen anyone talking about this. So just to let you guys know, this is how Konan works.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Рік тому +3

      That doesn't mean she doesn't need to react to actually initiate the jutsu, I do understand your point, but by the logic presented she'd be able to phase shift through anyone no matter their speed. I'm more of the opinion she has to consciously do it which isn't mutually exclusive to what you mentioned. Unless there’s a specific statement I’m not aware of for it being auto but, I haven’t come across it.

    • @Intrepid_Explorer
      @Intrepid_Explorer Рік тому +10

      It's less that Jiraiya's oil countered her Jutsu and made Konan vulnerable to taking damage as much as it was the oil simply prevented any more paper from unfolding from her body by making the sheets stick together. I believe that her Jutsu was still active (as she was still able to fly and was unharmed by Jiraiya's Wild Lion's Mane Technique), but she simply couldn't create any more paper to attack with until Pain washed the oil away with his summon's foam. So at least to me it seemed more of a temporary stopgap to buy him time to talk than him "beating" Konan.

  • @wowtao1755
    @wowtao1755 Рік тому +16

    I dont think pain is going to fall for kotoamatsukami, even if the rinnegan isnt immune to visual genjutsu, cause kotoamatsukami only works on one person, and there are 6 of them, 7 technically, nagato would immediately know that one of the paths is under a genjutsu and it wouldn't be a problem to deactivate that path and revive it again, it might work if danzo somehow can defeat 5 paths but considering their power level, danzo is going to be able to take out 2 paths at most (that too if everything works well for danzo and everything goes wrong for pain)

    • @spit-fire
      @spit-fire Рік тому +1

      @Panurgic so you think koto would work on sassori if danzo used it on one of his puppets?

    • @wowtao1755
      @wowtao1755 Рік тому +7

      @Panurgic there is a problem tho
      1. When jiraiya used genjutsu on pain, it didnt have any effect on nagato himself
      2. When ma and pa (pain vs naruto) casted the toad song genjutsu on the wolf and rhino summonings, it only effected those two, the other paths were fine despite all of them having the same shared vision and hearing
      3. Edo tensei functions just like the path of pain (kabuto was able to see and hear from his edo just like nagato and his paths) but when itachi put himself under genjutsu, it didnt effect kabuto
      So if danzo wants to cast GENJUTSU on nagato he would have to directly cast it on nagato not the paths, and this is where it gets even worse for danzo, if he wants to paralyse all the paths of pain with genjutsu he would have to use kotoamatsukami on all the paths + summonings AT ONCE and given that kotoamatsukami is a single target basedgenjutsu (when i say single target it means that koto can only effect 1 person when used, cause if it was a multi target genjutsu, itachi would have freed nagato with him and danzo would koto everyone in the summit not just mufune) it wouldn't do anything unless danzo is in a 1v1 with any of the paths

    • @poodie3887
      @poodie3887 9 місяців тому

      You don’t know what you’re talking about

  • @myagu6723
    @myagu6723 Рік тому +22

    Props to danzo for making us want to become a better person 🙏

    • @ahsoka_polo
      @ahsoka_polo 4 місяці тому

      I never cared for Danzo

  • @flight_knight_
    @flight_knight_ Рік тому +14

    Danzo is a beast. It’s possible he was the strongest Kage at the 5 summit.

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому +13

      He was, he was hiruzen’s rival who was also the strongest kage of his time. He also preformed better against sasuke then the other kage

    • @spit-fire
      @spit-fire Рік тому +9

      @@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou debatable. Onoki and the rikage both had killing blows on sasuke, but he was saved.

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому +8

      @@spit-fire the raikage was going to suicide rush sasuke confirming that they both would have died. The sasuke that’s the raikage fights is also weaker, gets less rage amps, and is more conservative with his mangekyo too.
      Onoki caught sasuke off guard with his strongest attack, that’s not helpful since that’s hardly a feat. Now I agree that particle style would kill sasuke since onoki proclaimed it would kill even Madara (had he been alive) but his stats overall aren’t good enough and sasuke might just cut him in half before he even gets the chance to do it.

    • @gordonross3270
      @gordonross3270 Рік тому

      ​@@spit-fire and the mist lady

  • @yeri_san5028
    @yeri_san5028 Рік тому

    I actuallu disagree with almost all of the teorical combats that you have made, but great video and good to see your point of view on it.

  • @ChaosRUsEnt
    @ChaosRUsEnt Рік тому +2

    Yes!!! Finally!

  • @machina5
    @machina5 Рік тому +3

    Unrelated but it's really funny when people say Danzo scales to Sasuke even though Sasuke low-mid diffed him 10 times in a row while exhausted and only got spooked when Danzo literally killed himself lol

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому

      Pretty funny when people don’t actually read the source material of the fight.
      Danzo is consistently fighting sasuke cqc and is only getting pressed when his susanoo is out.
      Sasuke used up his entire mangekyo’s life span in one fight (something meant to last for years) to kill sasuke.
      He’s also fighting base Danzo who’s holding back as stated by 2 reliable sources and himself. He has the luxary of shairngan precognition and shairngan rage amps unlike Danzo.
      And despite all this is left to a standstill that results in both receiving fatal wounds.
      Sasuke wasn’t mid diffing danzo.
      This was an extreme diff fight that would have resulted in a tie has the circumstances been more fair to Danzo.
      Sasuke also wasn’t exhausted. Karin was healing him in the kamui dimension for presumably hours given the change in settings from the fight with the Gokage to the fight with danzo.
      Sasuke was spooked at izinagi alone and Danzo wasn’t scared of sasuke until he ran out of izinagi.

    • @jasonmoukala8909
      @jasonmoukala8909 4 місяці тому

      @@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyouDanzo wasn’t holding back

  • @moony_97
    @moony_97 Рік тому +1

    Danzo was probably my favorite villain I loved playing as him in the Ultimate Ninja Storm games!!

  • @takatotakasui8307
    @takatotakasui8307 Рік тому +2

    I enjoyed

  • @Masterduel012
    @Masterduel012 3 місяці тому

    danzo is one of my favorite characters, i'm glad to see him get some spotlight here

  • @antoniomcneary
    @antoniomcneary Рік тому +4

    I enjoyed Danzo and the way he was used and handled in the series. More feats for him would have been nice but this would take away from the mystery factor of his jutsu nor was there any narrative or in story reason to let him live after his fight.
    I think part of the bittersweet feeling comes from Danzo being one of the few "realistic" shinobi to act as a foil to the majority of the cast.

  • @TheEternalFlame57
    @TheEternalFlame57 Рік тому +2

    The goat is back

  • @jamesconner5917
    @jamesconner5917 Рік тому +8

    Great video man I love Danzo so I’m glad your covering him

    • @TheEternalFlame57
      @TheEternalFlame57 Рік тому +1

      Holy shit Danzo has fans

    • @jamesconner5917
      @jamesconner5917 Рік тому

      @@TheEternalFlame57 yep danzo and hiruzen are my favorite

    • @Shadowsmoke11
      @Shadowsmoke11 Рік тому +2

      @@TheEternalFlame57 Danzo Shimura is the GOAT! 🐐 The Shinobi of Darkness 😎 He will always be the Sixth Hokage in my eyes.

    • @auditor7613
      @auditor7613 Рік тому

      I hate Danzo for all shit he did, but also really enjoy that he is the most realistic villain of the show. Politician, leader of his own CIA, and terrorist in one person(with a really cool design on top of that).

  • @ffbear8078
    @ffbear8078 Рік тому +17

    As much as Danzo is underrated, I agree that theres no chance of him beating prime Orochimaru cause Danzo believed he never surpassed his rival Hiruzan which includes old age Hiruzen that was roughly equal to a not prime Orochimaru

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому +5

      He was referring to politics, not the ability to fight. If you’re about to die, power scaling is the least of your concerns.
      Orochimaru got destroyed by 13 year old Itachi, Danzo has a hashirama amped mangekyo capable of taming the 9 tails. Danzo looks at him and he’s dead.

    • @ffbear8078
      @ffbear8078 Рік тому +2

      @@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou prime Orochimaru was post 4th war and even hokage Naruto was on guard near him

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому +1

      @@ffbear8078 you were referring to pre war orochimaru in your original comment, war orochimaru is different.

    • @ffbear8078
      @ffbear8078 Рік тому +2

      @@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou no I wrote prime initially

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому

      @@ffbear8078 and you wrote him in reference to contending with hiruzen, the orochimaru that fights hiruzen and the orichimaru that fights in the war are completely different characters.
      One struggled to fight old hiruzen while the other one fought guru guru Yamato to a stand still.
      The orochimaru that fought hiruzsn gets washed Danzo and the one in the war gets genjutsu mind raped.

  • @PatrickTillman7
    @PatrickTillman7 Рік тому +2

    I'd really like to see a war arc kakashi or Tsunade vs the Akatsuki

  • @jaredgreathouse3672
    @jaredgreathouse3672 Рік тому +9

    Danzo is no weakling, but he stops at like Sasori.

    • @Shadowsmoke11
      @Shadowsmoke11 Рік тому +4

      Danzo > (Early Shippuden) Hebi Sasuke > Sasori. There is no way Sasori scale to Danzo if Sasori cannot beat Hebi Sasuke.

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому +4

      Itachi and Obito were gassing this guy up, how anyone can think he is weak is beyond me

    • @gojigiante
      @gojigiante Рік тому +8

      @@Shadowsmoke11 Sasori would thrash Hebi Sasuke, tf. He has no way to continuously counter Sasori’s poison. While it’d be easy for Sasori to dodge his attacks. The only way I see Sasuke winning is he can summon Kirin and Sasori waits for him to use it like Itachi did. Because Sasori could easily just snipe him while he’s preparing the attack.

    • @hobbyhorse5848
      @hobbyhorse5848 Рік тому +9

      @@Shadowsmoke11 Hebi Sasuke cannot beat Sasori more times than not imo…give him a good fight maybe but 6/10 he loses. He barely survived against Deidara who is blatantly weaker than Sasori. True he’s poison immune, but Sasori is more a rival to Sannin level characters and Hebi sauce admits that armless Orochimaru>him.

    • @ChaosRUsEnt
      @ChaosRUsEnt Рік тому +2

      Danzo could take Taka Sauske before his Susano Mid-High Diff

  • @bigrob8517
    @bigrob8517 Рік тому +1

    Great video 100% agree with the rankings

  • @brodyday6509
    @brodyday6509 Рік тому +1

    Holy shit I got so hard seeing this is the video thank you so much

  • @minatouchiha9971
    @minatouchiha9971 Рік тому +13

    You explaining danzo abilities & skills without hearing his evil side he actually was one of the best ppl to train naruto considering they both have wind release affinities 4:30

  • @carloalaimo2154
    @carloalaimo2154 Місяць тому

    Can you do hidan vs the baki verse?

  • @A..lie..sha3
    @A..lie..sha3 Рік тому +1

    TG The Goat

  • @Sweetlesishere
    @Sweetlesishere Рік тому +4

    Danzo never blitzes Saskue and couldn't even damage Saskue with a punch, who stood there unfazed. Danzo is also fighting a weakened Saskue from his fight at the summit, who's MS is constantly weakening Saskue (even in his fight with Bee it causes him a lot of pain to use it).
    Deidara fought a Saskue with more chakra (Orochimaru absorbed) and a Curse Mark 2, which has to be faster than this weakened Saskue with an MS that causes him pain every time. Deidara was even relative to Ohnoki, who was actively trying to kill Deidara because he was bombing the stone village, and fought as an edo. I just don't think Danzo is fast enough to blitz Deidara off rip, and none of Danzo's wind style seems to be faster than Chidori, the ninetails KN0 or Ohnoki. The wind style that hit Saskue was a FATIGUED Saskue from the summit.
    Sasori scales to the third kazekage and is portrayed as relative but possible a bit weaker than Sanin (Sasori was portrayed as a rival to Orochimaru, Chiyo a rival to prime Tsunade) and to get past the downplay- Sasori would've killed Sakura had it not been for Chiyo, who is definitely as strong or possibly stronger than this Kakashi, as fucked up as that sounds. Sasori would start in his Hiruko puppet, and the first Izanagi would be used breaking this. Many people incorrectly assume the third kazekage puppet would come out next, but Sasori would probably summon his puppet army first, and Danzo would either figure out Sasori is a human puppet and needs to strike the core or he would not know that is Sasori's true body and repeat the same mistake. Whether you think Danzo has 9 or 8 Sharingan, Sasori can now move his core far away from Danzo while controlling his army and kill Danzo 9-8 more times. Baku would beat the army, but the third kazekage would beat that. I guess Danzo could win in this situation, but even in his fight Sasori was able to move his core to a fallen puppet body.
    Kakazu would probably lose all of his hearts since they aren't particularly durable but he would be able to protect himself from the wind blade and he would be able to physically kill the Baku since he ranked a paw from the two tails . Izangi would work on him easily since he got beat with the same shadow clone technique twice in a row, but after that Danzo is getting his ass beat.

    • @m.caeben2578
      @m.caeben2578 11 місяців тому +1

      It's great you clarified the speed tier list, and you made quite a great observation on how the Chiyo and Sasori may scale to the Sannin. I think that Chiyo far surpasses Tsunade, in part given how Chiyo continuously stalemated Hanzo of the Salamander during the 2nd Great Shinobi War. Now, even if Sasori takes out the Third Kazekage puppet first, which is debatable as you say given Sasori was called Sasori of the Red Sand before ever killing the Third Kazekage, Hanzo in all likelihood would attack Sasori instead of the puppets in a second use of Izanagi, as even Chiyo had not suspected Sasori being a puppet himself. Here, Sasori would get more information on Izanagi, and reconstitute, and recover whatever set of puppets she was fighting with. Attacks like Iron Drizzle would be continuous KO attacks on Danzo.

  • @opticblastx
    @opticblastx Рік тому +3

    Konan can win but would depends on how she reacts and understand Danzo's ability. The Baku would suck her paper form but she could just send paper bombs to explode him from the inside, she can't die or get hurt in her paper form if she reacts in time so Danzo's wind style may or may not work. It all depends on her intelligence and ability to form a plan quick enough to counter Danzo's hacks and pressure

  • @user-mm7pb5si6j
    @user-mm7pb5si6j Рік тому +5

    It's really fun to think about it, but I genuinely wonder if Danzo could defeat Pain. Since all the paths are vulnerable to surprise attacks, Danzo could try to get rid of most of them with his first Izanagi. I know Pain has a shared vision, but most of the time his paths just look ahead. If Nagato doesn't expect the atack, Danzo may be able to cut through his paths with wind style technique, that was fast enough to even damage Sasuke, who was warned about attack by Karin. Even Gakido need to see technique to absorb it, so Danzo has really solid chance to catch most of the Pain off guard.
    Probably, Tendo could react to this since he was able to keep up with six tails anyway, but if all other paths or at least 4 of them would be defeated in the beginning, I think Danzo could try his best and defeat remaining bodies before Nagato will decide to use Chibaku tansei.

    • @moneybag2times53
      @moneybag2times53 Рік тому +4

      Danzo shouldnt scale to Pain as a perfect sage mode naruto with prep and full intel also sage toads and toad summonings who should be relative to Dms sasuke got one shot by a Fatigued Deva path alone. Esentially what im saying is 6pop > Fp deva > Fatigued Deva > Sage naruto/toads ~ Dms sasuke > Danzo

    • @user-mm7pb5si6j
      @user-mm7pb5si6j Рік тому +1

      @@moneybag2times53 since when toads scaling got so high?

    • @moneybag2times53
      @moneybag2times53 Рік тому +4

      @@user-mm7pb5si6j It didnt, but even then gamabunta alone is low tailed beast level lol. And those 2 sage toads been overpowered they was able to put a rinnegan user under genjutsu im just saying with all that added power naruto should only scale relative to dms sasuke maybe a tiny bit above vice versa and since danzo couldnt even beat dms sasuke he gets smoked by a full power 6pop

    • @user-mm7pb5si6j
      @user-mm7pb5si6j Рік тому

      @@moneybag2times53 Be relative to weakest tail beast in his full form (that never had any speed or reaction feats, except, maybe Ninetails) is not something to be proud of. And how genjutsu feat implies that toads is relative to someone like Sasuke in stats? Bare fact that Jiraya and toads were force to use genjutsu against weakest of paths instead of taijutsu actually is massive antifeat.
      I'm sure Danzo relative to most of the paths, and gap between him and Tendo in stats not so large, since he didn't suppress base Naruto after his SM ran out. Danzo could try it if it be 1vs1 or 1vs2 spamming Izanagi for 10 minutes.

    • @moneybag2times53
      @moneybag2times53 Рік тому +2

      @@user-mm7pb5si6j Lmao my guy im not saying the toad summonings and sage toads are dms sasuke level im saying with the added power of sage naruto they should be

  • @streetsharksbedfordpoint6.933
    @streetsharksbedfordpoint6.933 4 місяці тому +1

    ⚠️TO EVERYONE WHO DIDN'T KNOW ⚠️
    sakura and chiyo didnt technically beat sasori, sasori toyed with them the entire fight, and allowed himself to be killed at the end of the fight, dying the way he wanted to, in his parents arms.

  • @coatguy2990
    @coatguy2990 Рік тому +1

    okay let's break this down quick unless I'm forgetting something majorly important:
    Deidara - flies out of reach with his clay dragon and bombards the guy - neg diff for deidara
    Sasori - good luck binding a puppet that doesn't need to move in order to control hundreds of puppets - neg diff for sasori
    Hidan - Hidan just dead lol - neg diff for danzo
    Kakuzu - I really wanna give it to Kakuzu since he's my favorite akatsuki member but this one depends on how early he deploys his hearts as weapons so imma say even match
    Itachi - pff, neg diff for itachi, nothing more needs to be said
    Kisame - again, I wanna give it to kisame, but this fight I can't predict. danzo can theoretically just move out of water prisons or the giant water dome via his vacuum spitting jutsu so again imma say even fight
    Konan - what's she gonna do? fold some origami? unless she gets an infinite amount of prep time, she loses pretty hard here
    Pain - Danzo days 0 diff
    Obito - yeah well we already saw what happened to him vs sasuke who, at this point in time, was way inferior to obito
    Zetsu - uhhh...no clue honestly

  • @AJPlay_AllDay
    @AJPlay_AllDay 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video! I agree with everything you said. If Danzo used Shisui eyes, I’m afraid everyone is getting clapped. The only ones who might not if they perceive it is Itachi and Obito.
    Itachi has never used Izanagi but he has used the Izanami, which is like the second half of the jutsu. So I would have no reason to believe Itachi could use one and not the other.
    But Shisui’s eye is perfect Genjutsu, it’s inescapable when used and anything that happens in that genjutsu happens for real and the user has complete control. Truly broken technique 🤯

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  7 місяців тому +1

      My man 🔥 appreciate the love!

  • @MrShamooga
    @MrShamooga 11 місяців тому

    I feel like one of the reasons the Akatsuki are so powerful is that they’re all roughly lags level and they travel in pairs. You rarely see people that powerful running around with someone else on their level.

  • @twistedvtuber9894
    @twistedvtuber9894 Рік тому +4

    This video lowkey serves as proof that danzo doesn't actually care about Konoha. If he did, he would at least ATTEMPT to fight some of the Akatsuki

    • @Shadowsmoke11
      @Shadowsmoke11 Рік тому +4

      I think it's mainly due to that the story is a Shonen. The story need to focus on the main characters and put them against more powerful foes and obstacles throughout the story in each arc. Otherwise Konoha could simply send out powerful ninjas like Jiraiya, Danzo, Tsunade to take out some Akatsuki members. Things that come to mind is Kakuzu and Hidan. Why send out only Asuma and his subordinates? Should have sent out an elite squad like Asuma, Guy, Tsunade and Kakashi at the same time. But that would make the story boring and not interesting to read/watch for the viewer.

    • @twistedvtuber9894
      @twistedvtuber9894 Рік тому

      @CommandoSoldier I agree, but in universe it adds to his selfishness

  • @sawyerfan5056
    @sawyerfan5056 Рік тому +3

    Its a great Video and All and i mostly agree
    but Kisame 100% Slams Mid Diff

  • @TheToby121
    @TheToby121 Рік тому +2

    I know the movies are not considered canon but in one of the part 1 movies there is an animal summon they can not kill. What do they do? They decide that if it is an animal summoning then it must have a contract, and that if they destroy that contract then the summon is undone and the animal will disappear.
    Again, I know they aren't all canon but it is possible this is how it works in canon too, we don't really know. I thought of this when I watched the movie the other day and how it might interact with the so6p summons like the dog.

  • @owensilva9224
    @owensilva9224 Рік тому

    Thundergod when is the tobirama vs akatsuki video releasing

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Рік тому +2

      Thumbnail is made, I might grab King Bullet to record that one but, yeah should drop this month

  • @jason15212
    @jason15212 Рік тому

    @ThunderGod you should do Kakashi vs Danzo

    • @GodlyGang
      @GodlyGang Рік тому

      Normal fight kakashi wins, fight to the death danzo wins, kakashi doesn’t have enough chakra. Can hit lightning blade about 4 times and kamui a few times and he’s pooped, danzo got more eyes then that and had a bunch of 1 shot cheap moves, also his fight style is more ruthless like going for the juggler or in sushi example his eye.

    • @GodlyGang
      @GodlyGang Рік тому

      Also I’m referring to the kakashi when they were both bout to be the 6th hokage in the pain arc

    • @jason15212
      @jason15212 Рік тому

      @@GodlyGang I think kakashi fighting style differs on the situation. He never plays around and usually likes to get things over quickly. I don’t really disagree with you. I think kakashi is stronger and more well rounded but you have to beat Danzo like 20 times 😂😭

  • @yasinkone180
    @yasinkone180 Рік тому

    Can you do hookahs naruto vs the entire 4th great shinobi war Kaguya juudara and juubito included him vs everyone basically

    • @moneybag2times53
      @moneybag2times53 Рік тому

      Baryon mode probably mops but Hokage Naruto loses really badly especially if you include So6p teen naruto and sasuke
      Kaguya, 3 eye juubidara, So6p teen naruto/sasuke, Dms kakashi/Obito, Juubito, 8g Guy etc

  • @squanchpaperboi8943
    @squanchpaperboi8943 Рік тому +24

    Danzo, make the leaf village great again

    • @aboody8618
      @aboody8618 Рік тому +2

      MKGA (make konoha great again)

  • @Friendly_G
    @Friendly_G Рік тому +6

    Pain is probably not subseptiable to kozoamatzukami because we know itachi can't izanagi a shadow clone which would instigate that genjustu doesn't work on clones. The 6 paths of pain are just clones but with physical bodies and can be actively enhanced during the battle ad clones have to be enhanced during their creation. (Like a 50% clone or a 1% clone)

    • @critik_l
      @critik_l Рік тому

      They are not clones.

    • @Friendly_G
      @Friendly_G Рік тому

      @CamCritical Shadow clones are just chakra turned into a physical form and kakashi USED a shadow clone against 30% itachi and thus we found out through diologue that you CANT genjustu a shadow clone. Pain is 6 body's being controlled through the use of chakra and are physical. Also similar to shadow clones with just more chakra

    • @critik_l
      @critik_l Рік тому

      @@Friendly_G they aren’t clones though. It’s more akin to edo tensei. Dead bodies brought back to life by the Naraka path and controlled through chakra rods.

    • @Friendly_G
      @Friendly_G Рік тому

      @CamCritical whether they're clones or edo tensei, the fact of the matter is that they can't be put under genjustu. Edo tensei brings the casters soul which in turn brings their chakra. As for nagato, his chakra is being dispersed among many bodies yet they don't have a soul. (Which is why even the edo tenseid jinjurikis with a soul to guide the body, were still able to be controlled by obito's chakra) Still i do agree that the means of whatever they are, are still unknown

    • @critik_l
      @critik_l Рік тому +1

      @@Friendly_G except Itachi was affected by Kotoamatsukami.

  • @KcMove2Smoove
    @KcMove2Smoove Рік тому

    Do each akatsuki member in gojo's position from JJK from when he was being sealed.

  • @Themfeels101
    @Themfeels101 4 місяці тому

    Hidan~ I think one of the biggest problems here is that most of the Akatsuki travel in 2s with rare exceptions, so if he's fighting Hidan he is also fighting Kakazu, likely at the same time. They are almost never seen separated. The moment he "takes out" Hidan Kakazu is just going to put him right back into the fight. Shikamaru had to literally separate the two for quite a distance. In every single showing, it has been in character for them to be right there to assist if the other felt like it.
    Sasori~The Sakura argument doesn't hold much weight. Sakura played her part but Lady Chiyo, a Hanzo level ninja, a mid-kage level ninja, the only rival to Tsunade at the time, was carrying that fight. Sakura met some of the requirements needed to help Chiyo win which was important. Agility? Yes. Strength? Yes. Intelligence? Yes. Medical training? Yes. She checked the boxes of what was needed but in no way was she going to put up a good showing without a legendary ninja like Lady Chiyo by her side. Chiyo fought Hanzo multiple times in her life and survived each one. Her win-loss record was never disclosed but It means something to say SHE fought him and survived multiple times. The three Sanin together fought Hanzo and barely escaped with their lives, he had to let them live. They weren't fodder then either, they were still some of the strongest ninja out there. Even Hanzo himself confirms that he and Chiyo fought. Sakura was also depicted as out of her depth right from the beginning of the fight.. literally the only reason she lasted more than a few seconds was Chiyo, and then the attacks she managed to reacted to, could also only happen thanks to chiyo's help. Sakura eventually manages against those on her own because she is specifically trained to analyze attack patterns. Chiyo herself has feats of reacting to kcm frs (flying rasen shuriken) and supersonic satetsu attacks, and of the three attacks explicitly depicted as supersonic in the manga, fks kakashi could not muster any physical movement whatsoever against a susanoo arrow, which again has been shown to be on par with frs in speed, highlighting the consistency of chiyo's speed feats. This plays well into Sasori's speed which people downplay. He was afterall able to keep up with chiyo's speed, (even when she was using two puppets and he was using one) and was able to pressure her with the speed and scale of several of his attacks, so his speed is def up there. The sharingan itself is countered by puppets, since they don't have muscles and also, puppetmasters have numbers and omnidirectional attacks, which also hardcounter sharingan users. In fact, Sakura's attack reading pattern skill is far more useful against a puppetmaster than the Sharingan. The Byakugan would be better as well tho not as efficient overall. Danzo would really be having to put in work or rely heavy on Izanagi. Sasori's poison I think is a win con though because I'm not sure if he can just Izanagi the poison away. It was a battle of circumstances as to why Sasori lost, everything was stacked against him and not in his favor, most importantly, he CHOSE to give up. I think his durability also holds up well, his core which is the only living part of his body must be destroyed to keep him down, if not he just puts his puppet body back together. Huriko's durablity is quite strong, stronger than any of Sasori's other puppets, in which Salamnder (unaltered) is shown tanking Deidara's C explosions. I think he scales to just below the Orochimaru and SM Jiraiya.
    Kisame~ Izinagi is really a win con but Kisame's chakra absorption comes in handy. How much does he know about Danzo though?? I doubt he would go in without any information and Itachi or Obito could've told him something about Danzo. That makes a big difference, because he can go in with as much as a 30-40% Water clone, do plenty with just that, and observe from a distance. Base Kisame did manage to put up a good battle against Itachi Uchiha, to the point both of them would think twice about facing each other in an all out battle, but would do it if there was no other option.
    Kakazu~ Hidan might be there to help like I mentioned earlier but 1 on 1 Kakazu is debatable. I agree with every point and don't really have anything to add.

  • @animixgamer7894
    @animixgamer7894 Рік тому

    “Today I have everybody’s favorite character” 😭😭😭

  • @supremelore_1533
    @supremelore_1533 Рік тому

    Next video idea...
    Top 10 Shippuden characters who can't beat Hidan!

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 Рік тому

      10. Shippuden Tenten(?) She could win with the Sage tools but unless if you want to give or restrict that to her, then
      9. Konohamaru.
      8. Kurenai
      7. Sick Orochimaru
      6. Ino
      5. Tenten
      4. Tenten
      3. Tenten
      2. Tenten
      1. Tenten

    • @_Seru_
      @_Seru_ Рік тому

      1v1 there's quite a lot of characters who can't beat Hidan, especially in early Shippuden. Hidan is weak for Akatsuki standards but he's not THAT weak.

  • @minatouchiha9971
    @minatouchiha9971 Рік тому

    What about the Akatsuki Vs Each village which village would do the best against an Akatsuki assault

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 Рік тому +1

    Looks like the old hawk can’t beat the nerdy snake.😺

  • @CalamityDiamond
    @CalamityDiamond Рік тому

    Danzo vs Hidan.
    Both of them: "Wait, THEY CAN'T DIE?!"

  • @shafeckbrown496
    @shafeckbrown496 Рік тому

    Imagine pulling in those papers only to find out they're bombs!!!

  • @robertlee9602
    @robertlee9602 Рік тому +4

    Danzo is a beast.

  • @Flows97
    @Flows97 Рік тому +4

    Danzo beats half of Akatsuki in 1v1

    • @fs5866
      @fs5866 Рік тому +1

      Nah he doesn't, only ones he can beat are konan, hidan and maybe deidara, the rest all wipe the floor with danzo.
      Danzo only fought a weakened Sasuke and still couldn't win, there's no reason why he would win against the rest of the Akatsuki when those guys were actively hunting tail beasts jinchurikis and kages.

    • @Flows97
      @Flows97 11 місяців тому

      @@fs5866 Zetsu and Sasori ? 💀💀

    • @fs5866
      @fs5866 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Flows97 right forgot about zetsu, ya zetsu gets wiped but Sasori will kill Danzo.

    • @_Seru_
      @_Seru_ 7 місяців тому

      @@Flows97 Zetsu loses but he's a spy/informant/mastermind, so you can hardly judge him by his fighting capabilities. Sasori absolutely beats Danzo since Danzo has no counters against his poison. And Sasori's poison paralyzes victims for some time before killing them.

  • @wulaeofthetengu8336
    @wulaeofthetengu8336 4 місяці тому

    Don't sleep. Karin saved Sasuke's life twice. First, she warned Sasuke when Danzō was about to kill him after one of his initial Izanagi uses and heals him after a fatal stab. Obito saved him from Reverse Four Symbols Sealing and just being there made Danzō hold back.

  • @NtheHecker
    @NtheHecker 4 місяці тому

    I swear to god. The only reason Hidan joined the akatsuki is because they needed someone Kakazu couldn't "accidentally" kill and Obito was busy.

  • @billforson3143
    @billforson3143 Рік тому +10

    Danzo is very smart. Sasuke had the advantage of Karin during his battle, she saved him from multiple surprise attacks, short of lighting hes a master of the basics, he's shifty with planting seals on people during combat, in any part during Danzos life, he was surrounded by the greatest Shinobi. At one point he was under command of kakashi, shisui, itachi, Danzos dark legacy as the root allowed the leaf to strong, also he prevented the Uchiha from killing everyone in the leaf

    • @gordonross3270
      @gordonross3270 Рік тому

      The uchiha didnt plan on kill everybody. Or anybody. They wanted a bloodless coup

    • @crimsonlotus1084
      @crimsonlotus1084 Рік тому

      Danzo indirectly killed all the Uchiha because he took Shisui’s eye that Shisui was going to use on the clan to stop their attack

    • @billforson3143
      @billforson3143 Рік тому +1

      @@crimsonlotus1084 shisui alone could not stop the entire clan even with hacks.

    • @crimsonlotus1084
      @crimsonlotus1084 Рік тому

      @@billforson3143 Shisui was going to use Kotoamatsukami on the clan until Danzo stoled his eye for his own gain and took advantage of the massacre to collect eyes
      Danzo also had ties with Hanzo and had the ANBU backed up Hanzo while he forced Yahiko to die so he also caused Nagato and Konan to turn from a peacemaker organization to a evil one

    • @billforson3143
      @billforson3143 Рік тому +1

      @@crimsonlotus1084 how long could one set of eyes genjutsu an entire clan? Realistically how long before he runs out of chakra convincing everyone to act friendly, we learn in the show Sasuke's parents are particularly strong, maybe shisui could genjutsu a group of people, but an entire clan? For how long?

  • @crunkalac
    @crunkalac 28 днів тому

    Underestimating Danzo is a clear sign they didnt follow the writing clearly. Thats Danzo stalling and saving chakra.

  • @robertcollazo3948
    @robertcollazo3948 5 місяців тому

    Danzo vs killer bee??

  • @bbrandumbb
    @bbrandumbb Рік тому +1

    Orochimaru was scaled to be higher than the Akatsuki when almost half of them are superior to the Sanin, such as Deidara and Kisame who are VERY downplayed.

  • @EverythingFan02
    @EverythingFan02 Рік тому

    I think Danzo also gets underestimated because, justified or not, Sasuke killed him not once, but 10 times, which he only survives because he implanted Sharingan in himself. Arguably only 1 death was Danzo not counting on using a Sharingan, “valid”, but still. He was also holding back, tanking hits with Sharingan to save his real jutsus for Obito, which leaves him with some perhaps underwhelming showings, especially after seeing the other Kage. It’s understandable that’d leave him looking skilled, but like he uses what he stole from others as a crutch to keep up with the really powerful ninja. He also lost control of one, the Hashirama cells, quite badly, which also leaves an impression of him not knowing how to use his modifications.

    • @Rakerong
      @Rakerong Рік тому +1

      The thing with Danzo dying 10 times is because he has to deal with susanoo for the most part, which is a troublesome technique to contend with (both offense and defense capabilities). The izanagi put Danzo in a position to last during the battle while employing some techniques to counter or break through the susanoo. Also, the death from amaterasu is a pretty tough one to escape from for most other characters too.
      I agree that his enhancements were crutches for seeming more powerful and to stand among the stronger characters with far better skills and stuff. But Danzo has always been a character that would use these enhancements for the purpose of maintaining control and having the upper hand in his goals, not necessarily for combat. He probably only needed to know enough about the enhancements of Hashirama cells and the sharingan eyes to operate with them and not what to do in the event he loses control of its power. I believe the enhancements were a recent addition when he was already in his older state which might account for him not being able to fully be 100% the best with them.

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому +2

      The underestimation is absolutely not justified at all and is a sign of someone scaling Danzo vis emotions rather then what’s presented.
      His showings while holding back aren’t bad at all if not excel the other kage’s.
      Danzo is fighting against a v3 susanoo himself and doing exceptionally well even being able to damage it while sasuke while the other kage ran away and were incapable of dealing with a much weaker susanoo themselves .
      The mentality that he only kept up because of powers he stole can’t be used to take away from the fact that he’s strong on his own narratively.
      Via statements from kakashi or the elders or data book statements concerning his rivalry with hiruzen, Hiruzen is always portrayed to be strong.
      Especially since he’s pretty much fighting sasuke at base while suppressing his chakra usage.
      And at the end of the day, all the kage’s in one way or another have broken kekai genkei that differentiate themselves from other kage.
      Danzo lacked one so he stole some.
      By taking those eyes, he just incorporated their powers into his own arsenal to make himself stronger. He i her eyes their power and their draw backs which evens things out and is commonly done among a lot of stronger people in the series.
      He is shown capable to controlling hashirma cells, just not to the extent of obtio who has a zetsu body.
      He only truly looses control when he’s dying.
      No body is truly ever shown controlling hashirma cells to the extent of Danzo on their own without external life forms outside of Madara and people stronger then him.
      He read the uchiha stone tablet and has shown extensive knowledge of shairngan abilities with his hubris and underestimation of Sasuke being his undoing.

  • @joshuawoonclaxton
    @joshuawoonclaxton Рік тому +1

    What prevents Danzo from using izanami along side with izanagi. Wouldn't be potentially be able to loop people after using izanami after he uses izanagi and comes back. Would his death be enough to create an izanami loop?

    • @hobbyhorse5848
      @hobbyhorse5848 Рік тому +4

      Danzo isn’t really the kind of person who should even be capable of using Izanami considering he’s completely delusional.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Рік тому +2

      He also has no knowledge of it as far as we know

    • @mihaimercenarul7467
      @mihaimercenarul7467 Рік тому +2

      ​​@@hobbyhorse5848 nah it's because izanami was a retcoms asspull introduced în The war arc. It wasn't a concept before

  • @Sweetlesishere
    @Sweetlesishere Рік тому

    I think your speed scaling was way off for Danzo. Unless the manga changed something from the anime, Danzo isn't able to blitz 5 Kage Summit Saskue. Saskue just fought at the summit and was already damaged/weakened, explaining his fatigue later on. Even in his fight with Bee, Saskue demonstrates that using his Mangyeko takes a horrible toll on him. Saskue is arguably slower than he was before as Hebi Saskue with Orochimaru absorbed, as he struggles to fight his opponents without relying on the Amaterasu or Susanoo rib cage. His other jutsu are there too, but the Susanoo is Amaterasu are definitely carrying him throughout fights as his body struggles to hold the MS. Kakashi reacts to this Saskue to protect Sakura, and no names like Chojuro at the time are able to take shots at him. Even though he's this much slower, he still chastises Karin for being so slow she was taken hostage.
    You've also used the strongest interpretation of Danzo ever, wanking his data book feats versus what he actually did. Danzo never blitzes Saskue, but does dodge the Susanoo arms which are slower than the arrow and any other technique Saskue has, just manifesting the armor itself is fast. The first thing Danzo does at the start of the fight is punch Saskue in the chest, who doesn't even move or flinch. So Danzo basically needs the wind blade to actually do damage because he's physically not that strong that even weakened Saskue no sells the punch. His wind style jutsu are fast, but Saskue never gets hit directly, just nicked once by the bullets, not even the wind shuriken, but it doesn't do much besides papercut Saskue. Danzo also struggles at mid range- the fight was close range until the Susanoo forced him back, and he couldn't dodge the arrows, but his only counterplay was Baku really. Let me reiterate- none of wind style actually DO anything to the Susanoo, just move it around a little. We also never see how far Danzo can Izanagi but it isn't far, because if he could get closer to the Susanoo weakness the first time instead of using it like twice when he's been shot at by the arrow, he would've. So no long range Akatsuki are at risk except Konan lol

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Рік тому

      I make it pretty clear he’s only really relativistic when Sasuke is outside the susanoo, I never use the word blitz if I recall, with his own speed + izanagi he can work in mutual strike. Everything you said I made some note of in the vid

  • @tirfing2928
    @tirfing2928 7 місяців тому

    Danzo was just too obsessed with the sharingan, if he had used more off his arsenal i think he'd win

  • @Jesse-df9fz
    @Jesse-df9fz Рік тому

    The most interesting fight here is against Orochimaru. I

  • @RafaelGomez-wf9tj
    @RafaelGomez-wf9tj 10 місяців тому

    Obito used the combination of izanaga and kamui to survive, not just Izanagi

  • @RelentlessTrader
    @RelentlessTrader Рік тому

    I still can't understand why a hokage level ninja dies by basic kunais.

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому

      Cause these ninja’s are humans.
      Swords can damage Madara, kunai’s to the throat can kill Obito, and paper bombs and other basic ninja tools can hurt Itachi.

  • @daboss640
    @daboss640 Рік тому

    Hidan could use a win, you should put him through a part 1 hero gauntlet or something.

  • @tennoan26
    @tennoan26 10 місяців тому

    honestly for izanagi i go by the swagkage interpretation cause it just feels better.

  • @theswordzmaneditz347
    @theswordzmaneditz347 Рік тому +1

    The danzo disrespect is crazy

  • @lufa7886
    @lufa7886 2 місяці тому

    Danzo is by far the most slept on. It took Sasuke, Obito, and Karin to beat him

  • @josephgiles7114
    @josephgiles7114 Рік тому

    What if tsunade fought danzo? I know a lot of people downplay her but I seriously think this would be a good fight

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Рік тому +1

      I think she’s win personally unless he decapitates her

  • @singerreid4624
    @singerreid4624 7 місяців тому

    Kogan death was so sad

  • @marko1263
    @marko1263 Рік тому

    Kakuzu's hardening won't be active if he's under the curse seal, which should be very easy for Danzo to set up given speed disparity. Same for Orochimaru and Kisame. Itachi would get outlasted against Izanagi, his chakra reserves are poorer than Sasuke's, Danzo is literally his worst matchup.
    Danzo is mad underrated because he lacks flashy abilities but impressive speed + izanagi hax + curse seal is a lethal arsenal that not many can counter.

  • @iluveverycarrot
    @iluveverycarrot Рік тому

    nah bro idc this guy the only ninja the whole series who died to regular shuriken

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Рік тому

      Bro out here just saying things that are correct😂

  • @jbabylucus1641
    @jbabylucus1641 8 місяців тому

    Konan after that fight with obito was exhausted from the jutsu she had pulled of prior and thought he was dead because she couldn’t sense him.
    So that really isn’t a good anti feat for konan. She won’t be depleting that much chakra in an instant move, with danzo. I still think danzo wins but he’d have a harder time wit her so about 7/10 for danzo

  • @kajuanweaver1607
    @kajuanweaver1607 Рік тому

    Can we get EMS Sasuke vs Orange mask obito

    • @moneybag2times53
      @moneybag2times53 Рік тому

      Ems sasuke one shots tbh but Rinnegan obito mops the floor with sasuke in my opinion

  • @SageOfBankai
    @SageOfBankai Рік тому +2

    Edo madara is what danzo wants to be.

  • @gentletal5101
    @gentletal5101 Рік тому

    Why isn't Danzo in Shinobi striker yet? You know how broken he would be

  • @the_marvelous_one
    @the_marvelous_one 2 місяці тому

    Danzo is underrated in terms of power

  • @redninja1085
    @redninja1085 Рік тому +1

    I agree Danzo stomps hidan, but I think if hidan tags Danzo before he activates izanagi he would be tagged the whole 10 minute

    • @_Seru_
      @_Seru_ Рік тому

      And Danzo most likely wouldn't be smart enough to see how Hidan's curse works.

    • @kaedenparten9126
      @kaedenparten9126 Рік тому

      ​@@_Seru_ yeah but he'd probably just be like, wow, stabbing his heart didn't kill him, let's try dismantling his body

  • @BuzzabeelYT
    @BuzzabeelYT Рік тому

    Hidan could take an initial W purely off the same surprise factor that Danzo wouldn’t go straight for decapitation. But after that, yeah, he takes a hard L.

  • @Reality-Distortion
    @Reality-Distortion 6 місяців тому

    Danzo activating Izanagi from getting hit with 2 shuriken doesn't mean he died from them. Death was never necessary component to activate it.
    I don't think any supposed Rinnegan resistance is why Koto is not a threat to Pain but that you're injecting a chakra into dead body, not "real" body. Thus Nagato wouldn't be affected and genjutsu of high caliber would be just waste of chakra.

  • @bernardmartins1093
    @bernardmartins1093 Рік тому +1

    Karin didn't help. Just healed sasuke preventing the battle to be a double k.o. or a danzo victory.
    The nerfed danzo without shisui sharingan and also worried about obito.
    Danzo is no joke

  • @GodlyGang
    @GodlyGang Рік тому

    Hebi saskue and beginning of pt 2 kabuto vs Sasori. 2v1
    Plot : orochimaru sends his 2 strongest henchmen to handle sasori

    • @GodlyGang
      @GodlyGang Рік тому

      Also an alive sound 5 with healthy kimimmaro vs sasori 5v1? (You could make it 5v2 if you have sasori bring Dediera).
      Plot : orochimaru wants to handle sasori and weaken the akatsuki before invading the the sand and attacking the leaf, or his arms are dead from attacking the village and needs the sound 5 to handle sasori because sasori sees this as an easy opportunity to take orochimaru out.

  • @DhruChaney
    @DhruChaney Місяць тому

    I think Danzo vs Kakazu would be super close

  • @JackStigma
    @JackStigma Рік тому +6

    Pain low diffs
    I mean, a good theory is that if Pain sticks a chakra rod into Danzo he can block his chakra system making Danzo unable to supply chakra to his sharingan to use izanagi

    • @user-mm7pb5si6j
      @user-mm7pb5si6j Рік тому +1

      Yea, but he will have to do it before Danzo activates Izanagi. And probably one rod would be not enough since Kakashi still was able to perform raikiri with black rod in his shoulder

  • @kodoqbesar4301
    @kodoqbesar4301 Рік тому +6

    How I'd see it :
    Obito : Obito in a mismatch
    Pain : Pain in a mismatch
    Itachi : Itachi in a mismatch to low diff
    Kisame : Kisame in low to mid diff
    Sasori : Sasori mid difficulty. His poison will forced Danzo to use Izanagi
    Deidara : Danzo high diff. Deidara will ran out of Chakra and clay before Danzo ran out of Izanagi
    Kakuzu : Danzo mid diff
    Konan : Danzo mid diff. Even with prep it doesn't matter because Danzo can just use Izanagi to came back
    Hidan : Danzo stomps

    • @Flows97
      @Flows97 Рік тому

      Pain
      Obito
      Itachi
      Kisame
      Kakuzu
      Danzo
      Konan
      Sasori
      Deidara
      Hidan

    • @_Seru_
      @_Seru_ Рік тому

      @@Flows97 Sasori should be above Danzo.

  • @marebbpc
    @marebbpc Рік тому +1

    dont underestimate karins role in that fight.

  • @freshjnew
    @freshjnew Рік тому +1

    Danzo no diffs up until sasori and deidara. Sasoris poison and deidaras explosions would make him start running through sharingan. Then once he hits itachi and kisame hes toast. Hidan and Kakuzu are easy for him. Tho it depends on the order how far he makes it. Itachi is mid high diff but probably a win for a fresh danzo.

  • @pepballer6375
    @pepballer6375 Рік тому +4

    Danzo couldn't phase pain
    Why do you guys think he stayed hidden through the invasion

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому

      He did it to kill tsunade, nothing suggests he was straight up scared of pain.

    • @pepballer6375
      @pepballer6375 Рік тому +1

      @@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou you remember why nagato summoned and used the gedo statue? Danzo was present and if you didn't know pain was killing everyone who had ties to Hanzo so danzo stayed put it's not a debate

    • @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou
      @turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Рік тому

      @@pepballer6375 this was Danzo before he had izinagi, he had no reason to risk his life and the lives of his men. Pain genuinely thought that Hanzo was a threat to him and was disappointed to see how weak he was in his old state. Since Danzo was causally able to walk into the hidden rain, Hanzo obviously has respect for Danzo since the leaf as far as we know only sends stronger people as messengers with kakashi being an example.

    • @pepballer6375
      @pepballer6375 Рік тому +1

      @@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou 😂😂😂 you obviously don't know about Naruto when pain destroyed the village orochimaru was long dead he had izanagi he would've died if he faced pain dude and he couldn't openly use izanagi In the village