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Very discouraging to hear this and you are not the first one's I've heard about junk being put out, just goes to prove all around this country isn't as independent as it once was so a little pandemic and all goes to hell with supply chains (major issue, too many overseas supply chains) and food not available for people or pets, housing goes sky high, car's stop being made and again supply chain issues. Didn't really take much to truly cripple this country.
Inexcusable, and it keeps happening. Most of these companies start as family owned with high regard for quality and customer satisfaction. Tiffin is a recent example. Those families then sell out to corporate America, whose only focus is profit. Where is the sense of obligation to not just customers, but our elderly, who oftentimes have contributed so much to their communities and country? I noticed a "Navy" front license plate on the Jayco at about 1:17 in the video. They could be Purple Heart recipients for all we know, and this is the treatment they receive. This Alaska trip could be this couple's last due to a variety of issues. Where is the remorse from Jayco? The work you are doing and posting is absolutely invaluable, Liz.
Thx to all you Americans that are making these RV companies and owners rich in spite of the garbage they produce year after year. And paying crap wages to their employees!
I've been looking for an RV for years. I was very surprised to find out how expensive and cheaply they are made. I decided to build my own on a school bus platform. No fancy slide outs but the very best appliances, hardwood floors, vacuum toilet, diesel fireplace, full off grid solar setup, etc. I may be into it for $150k or so but it will be far better than anything on the road.
And the biggest and best point is you know how to fix every last item. That is so very important. You know what tools to carry and how all your systems work.
We bought a 2021 Jayco 24B. Came to the conclusion should have built my own. Junk, sorry wingman, junk, pure junk. Not to mention zero support Are there places you aren't allowed to enter with a DYI camper
What a nightmare. Such a shame that on this amazing trip they had so many issues. Liz keep making these type videos you are making a difference for these folks that have had nothing but, troubles with their brand new campers but, also saving so many from these same massive headaches. I wish this lovely couple all the best.
Great story, these people work all their lives, and then this happens! I've heard a lot of people with money pit! If you're going to do it, you have to buy the insurance and hope you don't ever need it!!!
Every time when I watch one of these videos, I am happy that we spent $24,000 on our 2006 Winnebago Outlook and not $168,000 on something brand new. It runs like a new RV and we only had to fix minor issues like the shower door, seat belt and an issue with the automatic steps. We don’t need that „New RV smell“
When Jayco was privately owned they really put out a quality product. I owned 1 Jayco travel trailer and 2 Jayco 5th wheels and both were very high quality. Since Thor bought them out they have really lost the quality control.
We had a ‘00,’06, and currently an ‘09 as seasonal in NY. The first two were Kiwi’s. The ‘00 had flooring issues from the incorrect subflooring. Otherwise good camper. ‘06 just the AC needed replacing. ‘09 so far, so good. Don’t buy new.
As a NRVIA Certified for the last 4.5 years, here's my advice. New or used get a certified inspection and don't give the dealership a dime until everything is fixed completely no exceptions ! If you buy used, one of the biggest myths imo is "the previous owner has worked all the bugs out" in my experience, that couldn't be further from the truth. While there are a few "Diamonds in the Rough" out there, the vast majority of used RVs have damage either from factory defects that were never found or owners that didn't know how to properly maintain the RV. If you don't get it inspected, those problems will be yours ! And trust me dealerships as well as private sellers will try to hide that damage too.....
Thank you Liz for giving the grieved RV owners a place to vent their frustration, not to mention being an advocate to educate ppl about these RV manufacturers, dealers, and warranties.
This is an example of why you should only take a new or new to you RV on a short. local trip for your first outing. If anything breaks you are close to home and hopefully close to the dealer that sold it to you.
I highly recommend buying a used RV which I did. I had 2008 Coachmen Freedom Express class C with only 4000 miles on it and using for 3 years now. I only replaced the tires and batteries and good to go.
how many total miles does it have now?You got a cherry and good for you but the miles take a toll.If they put decent suspension systems in these things we wouldn't have the problems we have
@@jamesmcdonough2726 the current milage is 7850 which is still very low for the age. It is almost like new inside. Now I am planning to sell since kids are grown up and went to college. Probably we will downsized.
@@King-hl9vp What length is it? Does it have pull outs and where do you live?I've heard Coachmen are well made,I have a pop up and have been thinking about moving up.Whats the drivetrain are they Chevrolet?Perhaps we can get together on it?
I did the same thing winabago 08 class A. Made the purchase in 16. Didn't use it but to move the family across the country. It been sitting the last 7 years. With some upkeep. Almost got rid of it. Now we are getting it ready for a 5 year trip. I hate to say it. But I think I made a smart buy when I did. Good luck to you and your travels.
Until I started watching your videos, I never would've guessed that there's so many break-downs and garbage being sold today. That's unreal. Your videos are very well put together. I certainly enjoy them.👍
Big big reason we don't buy another one. It's not anything about the money, but when it comes to these issues, I don't have the energy or drive to deal with these things. All that money spent on an RV at these price points gets us quite a long time in AirBNB's all over the place, and we have very nice reliable transportation to get us there.
OMG!!! It is so terrible (not built like ours) that I have a Jayco Greyhawk 27U, 2022. We absolutely love it!!! We bought it used with 5k miles in California. So it was 2500 miles delivery miles. So our unit was hardly used. I can't tell you how much we just love, love, love the experience. We have already done several upgrades, tankless water heater, additional solar panel, theater projector system, and Thomas Payne theater recliners. Next is a silver leaf system. I really appreciate what you're doing, LizAmazing, with this channel.........Thank you
It’s amazing that the RVs from the 70s & 80s didn’t have any issues for probably 20yrs! Then it might have been a refrigerator, or oven! Not the RV falling apart! Remember these piles are on the highway next to you!
Hi Liz happy new year! Those folks are real troopers. We bought our class A used only a few miles, had an rv inspection, took some close to home trips, did a lot of research on owner forums and such. We have been blessed by not having any problems with our Newmar. I do think it is the luck of the draw in today's world. Have an inspection even if it is new!
Jaco was always considered a bottom tier rv buy……and I remember a neighbor back in the 90s who bought one new and was from day one shafted upon purchasing and later the dealer and the manufacturer could have cared less that they had a true lemon which the neighbor later sold for a 90 percent loss…..never ever buy a jayco
I don’t think the lack of trained mechanics is the problem. The problem is, they’re building garbage at the factories and putting them on RV lots for the unsuspecting public to purchase.
It's great that your doing this. I've been watching the RV Wingman for about 10yrs now, he has been so informative on what to look for in a good RV Dealer and what RV companies are good and make quality RV's. It's such a huge expense, you'd like to feel like your not being ripped off after you drive away.
Thanks for a quality video worth watching. These two lovely ppl did not deserve the lemon they got. There are lemon laws I hope they came out on top! I’ve been RVing most my life have a 2017 Lance 21 ft couldn’t be happier now going on 7 yrs. Happy trails🌺
Bought a 1994 Holiday Rambler (When Harley Davidson owned them) and have had only regular repairs. Found it was an all aluminum shell too. Good stuff there. Ford F-53 chassis and Ford 460 with headers. Super nice rumble to the engine. They used oak wood not that laminate stuff. Find one of those that has not been abused and good for a remodel.
What I have found there's way to much electric stuff built into everything nowadays it has its place to help but we need to go back to more mechanical stuff that last
Thanks so much. Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
Thanks Liz for the video and I feel for the wonderful couple , that had go through such a horrible ordeal ! I have a 28ft Jayco ,no slides or levels. Everything still works ! Well built !
Thank you very much for putting this information out. I cannot afford an RV, but I dream about it daily. Unfortunately, my heart breaks because people spend so much money on these and have to deal with all these issues. I wonder if people who oen EarthRoamer's have issues like this. 💔
Here’s my advice for people who are shopping for an RV: do not buy one because they are poorly made and fall apart. I’m not talking about the ones that were made back in the 70s. The new ones are crap.
If any of the owners ends up taking the "irresponsible" manufacturers to court, the judges would NOT HAVE A RIGHT to deny the owners justice!!!😡😡😡 So sad that many are not able to use/enjoy their expensive(regardless of the price!) purchase!!! (Oh, and as usual Liz, you look great!!!❣️
Thanks Robert. I hope you don't give up on the RV dream entirely. Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
1:41 As soon as they said their water heater quit working I guessed it was the thermal fuse. This is an incredibly common issue on any RV with a tank water heater. *Any* RVer with this type of water heater should stock a few thermal fuses in their tool bag, especially if you're going to Alaska. Happened to us on our last trip out west. Literally takes about 30 seconds to fix this issue if you have the right part on hand.
I bought a 2012 Lexington 26 ft motorhome, class B+ (a c class without the bulbous front) . Well built and no issues so far other than when an inexperienced attendent screwed up our propane filler valve. 130,000 kms on it. We have a good RV dealer locally with very good mechanics ,we are lucky. There is a problem with staff at dealers and staff at manufactors , but one of the problems no body talks about is that they are loading up these rv's including the trailers with way too much gadgets and weight, just so they look like their real home. Keep it simple and you will only have simple problems make it too fancy and you got too fancy and numerous problems. You don't need all that stuff, your'e supposed to be camping, but you want to bring your house with you, that is the problem.
Sorry to hear that. While it’s not a good time to buy new, there are plenty of well-built quality used RVs out there. Do your research and get an inspection. Hope to see you out here!
I have the Odyssey 29V 2022.. Been very fortunate with only the thermal fuse on our water heater and a new circuit board for the furnace. Repairs easy DIY but hardly anyone knows these are so easy to fix.
Yup! Early to mid 2000 is the way to go. There needs to be better lemon laws, but the lobbyists have stopped that from happening. Keep up the good work Liz, maybe eventually change will come around.
@@rockychessie From what I understand unless it is a high flauten place if your RV is in good shape they will let you in. This is designed to keep out the trashy RV's.
Hey Liz, love the way your taking your channel. I remember when you guys camped as a couple been a while but I'm going to watch now big big thumbs up long times subscriber.
My 2005 Coachmen Mirada over its 19 year life time only had a third of the issues these people had in one month. It’s for sale on RV Trader right now for only $14K, and yes she is functioning just fine.
Exactly. Now is probably not the time to buy new, at least not from something built in Elkhart. There are plenty of well-built quality older RVs out there. But definitely get an inspection. Thanks for watching.
Hey Liz, Gary from Kansas here again! I'm loving these videos about the lousy workmanship the RV companies are doing. Keep up the great work on exposing this serious problem. It's sad to see all the problems these people are having. Heck, I had problems with our 2019 Coachmen Catalina, but nothing compared to what you have been showing on your videos. Looking forward to next weeks video. Keep up the great work, girl!!
So much for the trip of a lifetime! And they’re so calm about it! I hope these videos get the proper attention to prevent quality and repair issues in the future. There has to be some way to make the manufacturers accountable for poor workmanship. I mean, a door flew off a plane in mid air! The RV industry is prime for a similar disaster. Thanks for sharing,Liz. Stay safe.🍀
I’ve had about five trailers and fifth wheels, they all have had something I needed to work on. From major to minor issues. It’s so sad that the quality seems to have gone downhill so bad. The best one I remember owning was a 70’s trailer with a metal roof. I don’t recall an issue with that one.
Then why keep buying the same junk; industry is not going to change for y'all RV'ers. As long there are buyers that are gullible the mfg's will keep selling you lies
If you’re dead set on purchasing an RV talk to everyone you know that has one or has had one. This will make you aware of all the things that may go wrong and what it took to fix those issues. Make sure you have a good working knowledge of all your appliances and system in your RV. Prepare for your trips by making sure you have the tools and spare parts you may need (ex. Leaf spring) . If you are not physically fit enough to crawl on and or under your RV , don’t buy one. The only other thing to consider is if you have a pocket load of cash then buy what ever you like. If it breaks down go rent a car or plane and leave it sit by the side of the road.
How sad that this happens to anyone; I hope they get the bugs worked out. Liz, you are really putting the spotlight on quality control problems and service technician shortages. Thank you for great reporting.
Liz, this is a wonderful series. I find it painful to see how these issues affect those owners. It is shameful when manufacturers do not stand behind their work. Field repairs, like the failed stabilizer jack issue, are sometimes bandaids in order to allow the customer to get to a qualified technician that can restore the rig to original working order. I wouldn’t be too critical of the tech who showed up in his old Ford pickup truck. Where the failure occured, in my opinion, is that the manufacturer did not prearrange for the shop in Missoula to provide the customer with priority service. Were you able to speak with representatives at Jayco Parent Co, the dealer that sold the rig to these nice folks, or the service facility in Missoula. That would be helpful in piecing together just went wrong here, rather than just presenting one facet of this issue. On previous posts you present both sides. For what is worth, we have friends that have a Jayco Class A that have experienced nothing but trouble, and cannot get relief from the dealer nor the manufacturer. We are very thankful for the 8 wonderful years (so far) in our Newmar pusher. That said, thank you for what you are doing.
Hi Liz, I've watched several of your videos and see that most owners have similar issues. In general, RV's are built cheap. There are only a few manufacturers I would even consider... Jayco is not one of them. Even some of the 'high end' RV's are built cheap so it is really a buyer-beware market. We bought a used 2023 Keystone Montana 3901RK...42 foot, huge rear kitchen, lots of basement storage, and 1.5 bath. We've towed it about 5000 miles and so far it has been a good trailer. We've had a few issues but nothing we couldn't take care of. In my opinion, the list of acceptable manufacturers is very very small. We had a dealer try to get us to trade our unit for a VanLeigh 5th wheel, but we've had such good experience with Keystone that I don't want to chance going to something else. Maybe we got lucky...
Keep it coming Liz. Makes my 2002 Beaver look more appealing all the time. These RV dealers should be run out of town. When I was in business if I told someone it would be one week it would have been a sin.
Thank you so much For Spearheading this for these folks against the Behemoth RV industry who obviously cares about one thing; The Almighty Dollar. Their Warranties arent worth the paper they are written on and the dealers truly have little culpability it seems. The industry has set themselves up with golden parachutes with the way they write their purchase contracts!
So let’s build a motor home as light as possible, max out the GVW of the vehicle, add all the comforts of home, add in a bunch of cubicles full of furniture which slide in and out …. Load it to the gills and drive down the road, over bumps, dirt roads, dips and bumps, vehicle flexing all over the place add more dips and bumps, carry a complete sewer, water system, electrical power plant. Thank about the damage an earthquake does to a home and realize that motor home is experiencing dozens of earthquakes every mile it travels. So who is surprised to learn these things fall apart.
I've owned arby's for the last 25 years. They are for the most part pretty good. I am now into the big diesel pushers. And yes, they are expansive, but there is nothing that a little bit of youtube university and little hands on cannot keep up on the maintenance
This reminds me of a really old add for Midas muffler. Some poor sole is truing to get a muffler for his Italian car. He goes to the dealer and this guy with an Italian accent says. “ Sure we can a-fix a de muffler, but you gotta leave the car. Two month!” Sure we can fix the jacks. Four months! New RV, and off we go to Alaska! Very bad idea. But unless you’re paying attention, they were expecting the same results as that new car they bought six years ago. Except this is 2024 and everything being made now is junk. Just look at new 737s. Door bolts? We don need no stinking door bolts.
Oh no. So sorry. Thank you for sharing this. If you want to be featured in an upcoming video, feel free to email me at liz@lizamazing.com. And see you in my latest video here (which may help you in your current situation): ua-cam.com/video/MtnjxoljNa4/v-deo.html
My daughter just bought a new Newmar class A (well over $200k) it's less than a month old and is falling apart. I think this lady is correct with her advice to buy used.
Thanks for all these videos... no way I'm upgrading from my 2013 class A! They all break but better to have one that you know and go with the unknown. If it was not for having to bring our dogs along (and do dog shows) there is no way I would have a RV - it would be hotels for me. I mean there is the ten year rule, two pet rule, gotta book way in advance and cannot cancel without a costly hit rule, got to take it to the dealer you bought from or it waits rule... and it all costs soooo much while the value of the RV nose dives. Sorry, rant over.
Wow so upsetting to see what this wonderful couple what they had to go through. Regarding repairs I’ve have learned forget the dealer and find a good mobile technician. I found a great one he doesn’t charges me to show up just the labor for whatever issue he there for and can get the work done quickly. If you find a good one, they’re honest they’re helpful they’re not looking to gouge you and you get the repairs done in the timely fashion. That’s my thoughts I enjoy your videos, my dear, and this series is an invaluable tool for RVs out there sending you positive energy my dearfrom your number one fan
We bought a 1980 Class B. Upgraded the interior ourselves, painted the outside and added solar. Absolutely love it! So sorry this happened to these people. RV manufacturers need to step up.
I have great memories of growing up camping and vacationing with my parents RV. The old RVs were proverbial tanks. So sad to see how the industry has declined.
I hope you got to enjoy the sights and the wild life of Alaska, hopefully the weather was'nt to bad, and you could deal with the 21 hour day light. sorry to hear about the troubles you folks had .( do you know what the difference between a ordeal & a journey is. ? Attitude !
I think if your going to do a trip into a remote region with little support like Alaska, you better have your RV fully time tested and numerous trips under your belt in that unit to shake out all gremlins and identify weak spots. Newly built mechanical things including homes are known for having things go wrong for the first number of months. In boats, which I own, count on 15-20% of purchase price to get that boat right during the first year of ownership and then it drops to around 10% of purchase price for operations. Welcome to planes, trains and automobiles.
My brother in law owned a RV transport company, 4 people in my family pull trailers of all kinds often, when he said he has rolled 4 bumper pulls I was dumbstruck! No one , not even my brother in laws employees have ever rolled a trailer! Maybe he needs to educate himself on RV’s , I’m really wondering if some of these problems weren’t owner errors.
These poor folks made a big rookie mistake, they took a brand new RV on a very long and faraway trip. Us old timers know that you stay close to home for the first year and shake the crap out of that RV so the big issues fall out. They also found out that Thor destroys every RV it touches, their daughters Jayco was probably a Bontrager built Jayco.
A good lesson here. We are getting a new custom class B camper van in 10 days, and Alaska is definitely on my bucket list. But not until 2026 - should have everything tested x 10 by then.
Might consider 2027, if you want to go to all of road accessible Denali National Park. We were told by a number of people in the know, that the back half of the park will be lucky to open by 2027. We enjoyed our 3 1/2 months there this summer, regardless. However, just thought you would like to know.
@@diann546 thank you. With wanting to drive the Cassian Hwy, the Dempster Hwy to the Arctic Ocean and a ton of other stuff, I can see making more than one trip. So all good either way.
Hi, I was hoping you were going to say if they received good words with Jayco or not. I'm hoping to be able to get out on the road by next year in a Jayco 30Z. I hadn't seen any negative video to discourage until this one. Could you give me your thoughts on Jayco's service department quality? Thank you for doing all that you do for others. ✌️😃
f you read the comments under this video you will see many folks chiming in that Jayco is not near the quality it used to be, unfortunately. Thank you for watching and I would recommend buying a used well built trailer.
Aww, thank you Linda! I've apparently become an RV advocate, and I'm ready seeing response from the RV industry. Thanks for being here, and stay tuned!
I live in a 1997 Hitchhiker 2 fifth wheel RV, it's very solid honestly I don't see myself giving it up to get another one because the more that I look at the newer ones it seems anything from 2015 on up it's just junk they're falling apart they don't last and the manufacturers don't stand behind them and for some reason the older ones are built solid better
We bought a 2000 Newmar Dutch Star diesel pusher over a year ago. Caterpillar 3126 Diesel with Allison transmission. It's a Freightlighter chassis. We put tires on it and had it tuned up. Spent about $6000 before we hit the road. Absolutely no issues except for a fuel filter that I replaced. We have put 8000 miles on. Everything works. Slide, jacks, water heater, fridge etc. Quality is great. Buy older. Easier on the pocketbook and much better quality.
Tip for everybody I had this same issue with a Class A it was used but I had a warranty dont get me started there but I was stuck for 3 days til an old timer gave me this tip If your jacks dont come up just the START RV and put it in gear..obvouisly dont me hold the brake down and they all have a fail safe and sure enough the jacks came up.
I recently purchased MCI 7 Challenger Greyhound bus converted to rv i am pleasantly surprised how bulletproof that bus is bulit i will challenge any new rv for round trip to Alaska and back !
Liz, another great video. I feel so sorry for the people that buy new RVs. My wife and I also plan to go to Alaska for a bucket list trip. Our RV is a 1995 Fleetwood flair. Class A. We've had a few problems but we have an excellent place that has worked on the RV since new. It's sad to say, but our entire out of pocket for the RV and all the repairs is around 20K.. Now, we've only had it about 7 years. My wife has looked up the trip to Alaska, and we are going to take a ferry ride with the RV from Seattle up the inside passage to I believe Skagway.
Liz has a great site but the best thing I learned this week was on The Wingmans channel where I found that RV dealerships DoNot have dealership agreements with manufacturers
I wish I didn't sell my 95 Jayco 5th wheel. That was the best. 4 slide outs. It was a gem. So now I have a 04 hurricane four winds haven't drove far enough yet. But it's been good so far.
As a tech. Yes very small corn of us. Im a certified RVTAA tech train out oog athens Texas. This is my advise going to alaska. Take then one week course for user. This give you a better idea on how to simple fix or find certified field tech. I,ve had two customer going south and it took three text to finish the repair in three week one week in each camp ground.
Thank you for this, Wayne. I talk about inspections in my latest video that I just posted in your other comment. Will post here for others who might be scrolling by. ua-cam.com/video/MtnjxoljNa4/v-deo.html
We were told by rv tech to purchase an rv between 2009-2013 eras. His reasoning was the rv industry crashed in 2008 with half the world! They really cleaned up their act the next few years as they were all vying to be #1. We purchased a 2012 39ft Montana that looked like it rolled off showroom floor. The seller did not have the right truck to pull her. It was a fabulous rv! We purchased it in 2015 for less than half price new. It worked out well for us.
Yes, people have various year ranges regarding that. I've always heard trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
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this is so f**ked up!!! these two should be compensated financially in addition to being able to give the RV back!!
This is a beautiful couple who did not deserve this experience, but they remain elegant
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Very discouraging to hear this and you are not the first one's I've heard about junk being put out, just goes to prove all around this country isn't as independent as it once was so a little pandemic and all goes to hell with supply chains (major issue, too many overseas supply chains) and food not available for people or pets, housing goes sky high, car's stop being made and again supply chain issues. Didn't really take much to truly cripple this country.
Inexcusable, and it keeps happening. Most of these companies start as family owned with high regard for quality and customer satisfaction. Tiffin is a recent example. Those families then sell out to corporate America, whose only focus is profit. Where is the sense of obligation to not just customers, but our elderly, who oftentimes have contributed so much to their communities and country? I noticed a "Navy" front license plate on the Jayco at about 1:17 in the video. They could be Purple Heart recipients for all we know, and this is the treatment they receive. This Alaska trip could be this couple's last due to a variety of issues. Where is the remorse from Jayco?
The work you are doing and posting is absolutely invaluable, Liz.
Thx to all you Americans that are making these RV companies and owners rich in spite of the garbage they produce year after year. And paying crap wages to their employees!
@@stevenkaskus6173 Exactly!! It was a good test.
I've been looking for an RV for years. I was very surprised to find out how expensive and cheaply they are made. I decided to build my own on a school bus platform. No fancy slide outs but the very best appliances, hardwood floors, vacuum toilet, diesel fireplace, full off grid solar setup, etc. I may be into it for $150k or so but it will be far better than anything on the road.
That's the way! Thanks for your comment, Sean, and for watching.
And the biggest and best point is you know how to fix every last item. That is so very important. You know what tools to carry and how all your systems work.
We bought a 2021 Jayco 24B.
Came to the conclusion should have built my own. Junk, sorry wingman, junk, pure junk. Not to mention zero support
Are there places you aren't allowed to enter with a DYI camper
How did you find your bus? Who did you buy it from?
Just be aware that no insurance company will insure you bus for what it is worth. You will have no coverage for that $100,000 you put in.
What a nightmare. Such a shame that on this amazing trip they had so many issues.
Liz keep making these type videos you are making a difference for these folks that have had nothing but, troubles with their brand new campers but, also saving so many from these same massive headaches.
I wish this lovely couple all the best.
Thanks Jan! I know good things have been happening thanks to these videos. I appreciate your support and feel free to share.
Great story, these people work all their lives, and then this happens! I've heard a lot of people with money pit! If you're going to do it, you have to buy the insurance and hope you don't ever need it!!!
I love your videos of people having problems with their RVs. It’s a great platform for customers keep them coming. Thank you so much.
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Every time when I watch one of these videos, I am happy that we spent $24,000 on our 2006 Winnebago Outlook and not $168,000 on something brand new. It runs like a new RV and we only had to fix minor issues like the shower door, seat belt and an issue with the automatic steps. We don’t need that „New RV smell“
Hang onto that oldie but goodie! Thanks for your comment!
They did mention their new RV smell and it smells like sewage.
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Hahaha 😹- that’s probably not the kind of new RV smell they expected when paying $168,000
I don’t mind the smell of old Rvs either
Everytime I watch one of these I'm glad I spent $150.00 on my tent.
When Jayco was privately owned they really put out a quality product. I owned 1 Jayco travel trailer and 2 Jayco 5th wheels and both were very high quality. Since Thor bought them out they have really lost the quality control.
It’s such a shame. I hope Thor decides to become more customer focused and build. Better quality. Thanks for watching.
And Thor is a Winnebago which is junk
We had a ‘00,’06, and currently an ‘09 as seasonal in NY. The first two were Kiwi’s. The ‘00 had flooring issues from the incorrect subflooring. Otherwise good camper. ‘06 just the AC needed replacing. ‘09 so far, so good. Don’t buy new.
Have a 2021 as well: "gained efficiencies" = elimination of unnecessary processes like QA, skilled labor, quality material......
As a NRVIA Certified for the last 4.5 years, here's my advice.
New or used get a certified inspection and don't give the dealership a dime until everything is fixed completely no exceptions !
If you buy used, one of the biggest myths imo is "the previous owner has worked all the bugs out" in my experience, that couldn't be further from the truth. While there are a few "Diamonds in the Rough" out there, the vast majority of used RVs have damage either from factory defects that were never found or owners that didn't know how to properly maintain the RV. If you don't get it inspected, those problems will be yours ! And trust me dealerships as well as private sellers will try to hide that damage too.....
Thank you Liz for giving the grieved RV owners a place to vent their frustration, not to mention being an advocate to educate ppl about these RV manufacturers, dealers, and warranties.
Thank you for saying so, it's nice to be appreciated!
This is an example of why you should only take a new or new to you RV on a short. local trip for your first outing. If anything breaks you are close to home and hopefully close to the dealer that sold it to you.
Yes, that's good advice. Thanks Jay!
I suggest at least two to three shakedown trips, especially if you are new to RV'ing.
Then wait 4 months to get repaired. Best advice - don’t purchase an RV.
I highly recommend buying a used RV which I did. I had 2008 Coachmen Freedom Express class C with only 4000 miles on it and using for 3 years now. I only replaced the tires and batteries and good to go.
how many total miles does it have now?You got a cherry and good for you but the miles take a toll.If they put decent suspension systems in these things we wouldn't have the problems we have
@@jamesmcdonough2726 the current milage is 7850 which is still very low for the age. It is almost like new inside. Now I am planning to sell since kids are grown up and went to college. Probably we will downsized.
@@King-hl9vp What length is it? Does it have pull outs and where do you live?I've heard Coachmen are well made,I have a pop up and have been thinking about moving up.Whats the drivetrain are they Chevrolet?Perhaps we can get together on it?
I have a 2012 Coachmen Mirada (over a year now) and got it used with 9,000 miles on it. No issues except the minor ones I already knew about.
I did the same thing winabago 08 class A. Made the purchase in 16. Didn't use it but to move the family across the country. It been sitting the last 7 years. With some upkeep. Almost got rid of it. Now we are getting it ready for a 5 year trip. I hate to say it. But I think I made a smart buy when I did. Good luck to you and your travels.
Liz, Every one of these videos you put out makes me love my towable camper more and more.Paid for and problem free..at least at the moment.
Yes I’m all for RV trailers.
Until I started watching your videos, I never would've guessed that there's so many break-downs and garbage being sold today. That's unreal.
Your videos are very well put together. I certainly enjoy them.👍
Big big reason we don't buy another one. It's not anything about the money, but when it comes to these issues, I don't have the energy or drive to deal with these things. All that money spent on an RV at these price points gets us quite a long time in AirBNB's all over the place, and we have very nice reliable transportation to get us there.
Agree…..my idea of a pleasant time isn’t buying new off the lot that I have to McGuyver every week.
OMG!!! It is so terrible (not built like ours) that I have a Jayco Greyhawk 27U, 2022. We absolutely love it!!! We bought it used with 5k miles in California. So it was 2500 miles delivery miles. So our unit was hardly used. I can't tell you how much we just love, love, love the experience. We have already done several upgrades, tankless water heater, additional solar panel, theater projector system, and Thomas Payne theater recliners. Next is a silver leaf system. I really appreciate what you're doing, LizAmazing, with this channel.........Thank you
It’s amazing that the RVs from the 70s & 80s didn’t have any issues for probably 20yrs! Then it might have been a refrigerator, or oven! Not the RV falling apart! Remember these piles are on the highway next to you!
Hi Liz happy new year! Those folks are real troopers. We bought our class A used only a few miles, had an rv inspection, took some close to home trips, did a lot of research on owner forums and such. We have been blessed by not having any problems with our Newmar. I do think it is the luck of the draw in today's world. Have an inspection even if it is new!
All good tips, Kevin. Thanks for watching!
Very sweet couple. Glad they were able to get their rig fixed. Plus he gave great advice for high school grads. RV technician.
Are you going to do a Jayco manufacturing response on this one -- it would be interesting to see what they have to say.
No response from Jayco yet. I will reach out again.
Jayco will do nothing
Jaco was always considered a bottom tier rv buy……and I remember a neighbor back in the 90s who bought one new and was from day one shafted upon purchasing and later the dealer and the manufacturer could have cared less that they had a true lemon which the neighbor later sold for a 90 percent loss…..never ever buy a jayco
I don’t think the lack of trained mechanics is the problem. The problem is, they’re building garbage at the factories and putting them on RV lots for the unsuspecting public to purchase.
That's why you do shake down runs in the driveway or close to home trips. Thanks Liz!
Those 2 are experienced RVers. That thing is a piece of junk.
You're doing the lord's work Liz. Only by highlighting this stuff is anything going to change.
Thank you, Phillip, sure appreciate your support!
The seats look comfy for sitting around waiting on good sam tow.
Don't you know it. Thanks for watching.
Thanks Liz that couple do not need those kind problems I hope everything gets worked out
It's great that your doing this. I've been watching the RV Wingman for about 10yrs now, he has been so informative on what to look for in a good RV Dealer and what RV companies are good and make quality RV's. It's such a huge expense, you'd like to feel like your not being ripped off after you drive away.
Yes indeed. You want to feel like the dealer has your back. Thanks for watching and stay tuned.
Outdoor RVs are fantastic! They’re not giving them away, but they’re well worth the money. We love our 22FQS Mountain.
WOW LIZ😮
I've been thinking about the RV Life but it seems like I should Rent First.
Or get a well built older one. And an inspection. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for a quality video worth watching. These two lovely ppl did not deserve the lemon they got. There are lemon laws I hope they came out on top! I’ve been RVing most my life have a 2017 Lance 21 ft couldn’t be happier now going on 7 yrs. Happy trails🌺
Liz, thanks for making this content. Even though I don’t own a RV, it’s still very interesting.
Enjoy every ebisode 😊
Bought a 1994 Holiday Rambler (When Harley Davidson owned them) and have had only regular repairs. Found it was an all aluminum shell too. Good stuff there. Ford F-53 chassis and Ford 460 with headers. Super nice rumble to the engine. They used oak wood not that laminate stuff. Find one of those that has not been abused and good for a remodel.
Harley is not known as a quality product,at this time everything on the cycles is made abroad and only assembled by mostly robots in the USA
What I have found there's way to much electric stuff built into everything nowadays it has its place to help but we need to go back to more mechanical stuff that last
I’m so glad you are putting these videos out there and giving people a voice. Helps in my decisions.
Thanks so much. Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
Used is sounding better and better!
Best advice you'll ever get, Let It Be Someone's Else's Problem, maybe consider renting one if you're just going on a trip.
Thanks Liz for the video and I feel for the wonderful couple , that had go through such a horrible ordeal ! I have a 28ft Jayco ,no slides or levels. Everything still works ! Well built !
Yes, hang on to that oldie but goodie, Ric!
Thanks for all your hard work, Liz, sharing the good and bad of the rv industry!! 🥰
Thank you very much for putting this information out. I cannot afford an RV, but I dream about it daily. Unfortunately, my heart breaks because people spend so much money on these and have to deal with all these issues. I wonder if people who oen EarthRoamer's have issues like this. 💔
I doubt it. Those EarthRoamers are tough! And definitely look at well built used RVs, when you are ready to purchase. Thanks for watching
Here’s my advice for people who are shopping for an RV: do not buy one because they are poorly made and fall apart. I’m not talking about the ones that were made back in the 70s. The new ones are crap.
Yes, the new ones sure seem to be! There are lots of well-built older RVs for sure. Thanks for watching.
@@LizAmazingMaybe in the long run, it’s better to rent and leave the problems to someone else.
It’s ALL JUNK
Contact your state Attorney General office
Contact an attorney and sue from the lemon law statute
Just like newer houses.
If any of the owners ends up taking the "irresponsible" manufacturers to court, the judges would NOT HAVE A RIGHT to deny the owners justice!!!😡😡😡 So sad that many are not able to use/enjoy their expensive(regardless of the price!) purchase!!! (Oh, and as usual Liz, you look great!!!❣️
This saved me a lot of money. Thank you.
Thanks Robert. I hope you don't give up on the RV dream entirely. Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
1:41 As soon as they said their water heater quit working I guessed it was the thermal fuse. This is an incredibly common issue on any RV with a tank water heater. *Any* RVer with this type of water heater should stock a few thermal fuses in their tool bag, especially if you're going to Alaska. Happened to us on our last trip out west. Literally takes about 30 seconds to fix this issue if you have the right part on hand.
Good tip, thank you.
I bought a 2012 Lexington 26 ft motorhome, class B+ (a c class without the bulbous front) . Well built and no issues so far other than when an inexperienced attendent screwed up our propane filler valve. 130,000 kms on it. We have a good RV dealer locally with very good mechanics ,we are lucky. There is a problem with staff at dealers and staff at manufactors , but one of the problems no body talks about is that they are loading up these rv's including the trailers with way too much gadgets and weight, just so they look like their real home. Keep it simple and you will only have simple problems make it too fancy and you got too fancy and numerous problems. You don't need all that stuff, your'e supposed to be camping, but you want to bring your house with you, that is the problem.
Glad you post these videos. After watching this latest one, i just changed my retirement plans and will no longer by buying a RV.
Sorry to hear that. While it’s not a good time to buy new, there are plenty of well-built quality used RVs out there. Do your research and get an inspection. Hope to see you out here!
I have the Odyssey 29V 2022.. Been very fortunate with only the thermal fuse on our water heater and a new circuit board for the furnace. Repairs easy DIY but hardly anyone knows these are so easy to fix.
Yup! Early to mid 2000 is the way to go. There needs to be better lemon laws, but the lobbyists have stopped that from happening. Keep up the good work Liz, maybe eventually change will come around.
This is absolutely correct I like 03-06 the quality is great
One big problem, many RV Parks WONT let an RV over 10 years old on their property.
@@rockychessie From what I understand unless it is a high flauten place if your RV is in good shape they will let you in. This is designed to keep out the trashy RV's.
Thank you. I really like your videos. Keep up the good work. 😊
Hey Liz, love the way your taking your channel. I remember when you guys camped as a couple been a while but I'm going to watch now big big thumbs up long times subscriber.
Yay! Thanks so much for being here, Sam! I sure appreciate your support and kind words. Feel free to share this video.
Thanks again Liz for advocating for us!!!!
You are so welcome. Thanks for being here!
Thanks yet again for sharing this with us..happy trails & be safe ❤❤
My 2005 Coachmen Mirada over its 19 year life time only had a third of the issues these people had in one month. It’s for sale on RV Trader right now for only $14K, and yes she is functioning just fine.
Sounds like a good one, and someone will be getting a solid trailer! Thanks for watching.
I think I will pretend like I bought an RV and that it is getting repaired at the dealership. Saving myself some steps and money.
Exactly. Now is probably not the time to buy new, at least not from something built in Elkhart. There are plenty of well-built quality older RVs out there. But definitely get an inspection. Thanks for watching.
Hey Liz, Gary from Kansas here again! I'm loving these videos about the lousy workmanship the RV companies are doing. Keep up the great work on exposing this serious problem. It's sad to see all the problems these people are having. Heck, I had problems with our 2019 Coachmen Catalina, but nothing compared to what you have been showing on your videos. Looking forward to next weeks video. Keep up the great work, girl!!
Hi Gary! Thanks so much for your encouragement! I hope you are keeping warm in Kansas!
So much for the trip of a lifetime! And they’re so calm about it! I hope these videos get the proper attention to prevent quality and repair issues in the future. There has to be some way to make the manufacturers accountable for poor workmanship. I mean, a door flew off a plane in mid air! The RV industry is prime for a similar disaster. Thanks for sharing,Liz. Stay safe.🍀
Thank you for watching Theresa! I look forward to your comments each week. Have a great weekend and see you next time.
Liz I Absolutely love your videos. You go girl. Take care be safe
I'll keep my 21 year old Class A, and even now, will have less issues than your Jayco. All original, and everything still works.
I’ve had about five trailers and fifth wheels, they all have had something I needed to work on. From major to minor issues. It’s so sad that the quality seems to have gone downhill so bad. The best one I remember owning was a 70’s trailer with a metal roof. I don’t recall an issue with that one.
Yes, those older ones were solid! Thanks for watching and for your comment.
Then why keep buying the same junk; industry is not going to change for y'all RV'ers. As long there are buyers that are gullible the mfg's will keep selling you lies
Ice to see that you are still with it Liz
Thanks Jim, I sure appreciate your support. See you in my brand new video right here: ua-cam.com/video/MtnjxoljNa4/v-deo.html
If you’re dead set on purchasing an RV talk to everyone you know that has one or has had one. This will make you aware of all the things that may go wrong and what it took to fix those issues. Make sure you have a good working knowledge of all your appliances and system in your RV. Prepare for your trips by making sure you have the tools and spare parts you may need (ex. Leaf spring) . If you are not physically fit enough to crawl on and or under your RV , don’t buy one. The only other thing to consider is if you have a pocket load of cash then buy what ever you like. If it breaks down go rent a car or plane and leave it sit by the side of the road.
Good advice, thanks for this!
How sad that this happens to anyone; I hope they get the bugs worked out. Liz, you are really putting the spotlight on quality control problems and service technician shortages. Thank you for great reporting.
Thank you for watching Rhonda! I appreciate your support
continue your good work lize
Liz, this is a wonderful series. I find it painful to see how these issues affect those owners. It is shameful when manufacturers do not stand behind their work. Field repairs, like the failed stabilizer jack issue, are sometimes bandaids in order to allow the customer to get to a qualified technician that can restore the rig to original working order. I wouldn’t be too critical of the tech who showed up in his old Ford pickup truck. Where the failure occured, in my opinion, is that the manufacturer did not prearrange for the shop in Missoula to provide the customer with priority service. Were you able to speak with representatives at Jayco Parent Co, the dealer that sold the rig to these nice folks, or the service facility in Missoula. That would be helpful in piecing together just went wrong here, rather than just presenting one facet of this issue. On previous posts you present both sides. For what is worth, we have friends that have a Jayco Class A that have experienced nothing but trouble, and cannot get relief from the dealer nor the manufacturer. We are very thankful for the 8 wonderful years (so far) in our Newmar pusher. That said, thank you for what you are doing.
One can spend many nights in a very nice hotel for far less money and also avoid most all of the headaches as well as the inconveniences!
Seems like all RV dreams turns into nightmares!
Hi Liz, I've watched several of your videos and see that most owners have similar issues. In general, RV's are built cheap. There are only a few manufacturers I would even consider... Jayco is not one of them. Even some of the 'high end' RV's are built cheap so it is really a buyer-beware market. We bought a used 2023 Keystone Montana 3901RK...42 foot, huge rear kitchen, lots of basement storage, and 1.5 bath. We've towed it about 5000 miles and so far it has been a good trailer. We've had a few issues but nothing we couldn't take care of. In my opinion, the list of acceptable manufacturers is very very small.
We had a dealer try to get us to trade our unit for a VanLeigh 5th wheel, but we've had such good experience with Keystone that I don't want to chance going to something else. Maybe we got lucky...
Keep it coming Liz. Makes my 2002 Beaver look more appealing all the time. These RV dealers should be run out of town. When I was in business if I told someone it would be one week it would have been a sin.
You are so right, Dan. And hang onto that Beaver. Thanks for watching.
Thank you so much For Spearheading this for these folks against the Behemoth RV industry who obviously cares about one thing; The Almighty Dollar. Their Warranties arent worth the paper they are written on and the dealers truly have little culpability it seems. The industry has set themselves up with golden parachutes with the way they write their purchase contracts!
You know it, Patrick. Thanks so much for your support!
So let’s build a motor home as light as possible, max out the GVW of the vehicle, add all the comforts of home, add in a bunch of cubicles full of furniture which slide in and out …. Load it to the gills and drive down the road, over bumps, dirt roads, dips and bumps, vehicle flexing all over the place add more dips and bumps, carry a complete sewer, water system, electrical power plant. Thank about the damage an earthquake does to a home and realize that motor home is experiencing dozens of earthquakes every mile it travels. So who is surprised to learn these things fall apart.
I've owned arby's for the last 25 years. They are for the most part pretty good. I am now into the big diesel pushers. And yes, they are expansive, but there is nothing that a little bit of youtube university and little hands on cannot keep up on the maintenance
This reminds me of a really old add for Midas muffler. Some poor sole is truing to get a muffler for his Italian car. He goes to the dealer and this guy with an Italian accent says.
“ Sure we can a-fix a de muffler, but you gotta leave the car. Two month!”
Sure we can fix the jacks. Four months!
New RV, and off we go to Alaska! Very bad idea. But unless you’re paying attention, they were expecting the same results as that new car they bought six years ago.
Except this is 2024 and everything being made now is junk. Just look at new 737s. Door bolts? We don need no stinking door bolts.
You got it. Thanks for your comment, and for watching.
BUILD A SMALL FIRE UNDER THE PROPANE TANK AND GET A NICE MOTEL ROOM WITH HVAC,GO TO DINNER AND LET INSURANCE TAKE CARE OF IT,HAVE A NICE DOOR
I empathize with these people. I had similar issues with a brand new class a fr3 and I had a year of fixing broken manufacturing issues. Best
Oh no. So sorry. Thank you for sharing this. If you want to be featured in an upcoming video, feel free to email me at liz@lizamazing.com. And see you in my latest video here (which may help you in your current situation): ua-cam.com/video/MtnjxoljNa4/v-deo.html
Did he say "Rolled bumper pulls 4 times on the interstate" 😱 Holy Moly! Yikes!
Yeah, I caught that and I actually backed it up to listen again because he said it so calmly like that was normal. 😆
I know, how in the hell do you that!…and not learn something after the first 3!😂😂😂
@@skydouglas996 Notice he said he had five rigs previously and never had problems with them. He didn’t have them long enough. 😂
I was shocked when I heard that. How in the hell does that happen?@@ceciliapetrowsky2572
My daughter just bought a new Newmar class A (well over $200k) it's less than a month old and is falling apart. I think this lady is correct with her advice to buy used.
Used is definitely the way to go AND get an inspection. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for all these videos... no way I'm upgrading from my 2013 class A! They all break but better to have one that you know and go with the unknown. If it was not for having to bring our dogs along (and do dog shows) there is no way I would have a RV - it would be hotels for me. I mean there is the ten year rule, two pet rule, gotta book way in advance and cannot cancel without a costly hit rule, got to take it to the dealer you bought from or it waits rule... and it all costs soooo much while the value of the RV nose dives. Sorry, rant over.
Yes. Hang onto that oldie but goodie. Thanks for watching and happy travels.
Wow so upsetting to see what this wonderful couple what they had to go through. Regarding repairs I’ve have learned forget the dealer and find a good mobile technician. I found a great one he doesn’t charges me to show up just the labor for whatever issue he there for and can get the work done quickly. If you find a good one, they’re honest they’re helpful they’re not looking to gouge you and you get the repairs done in the timely fashion. That’s my thoughts I enjoy your videos, my dear, and this series is an invaluable tool for RVs out there sending you positive energy my dearfrom your number one fan
Maybe it makes more sense to rent a C for a trip to AK and just walk away from it if it breaks
Yes, that’s a good answer. You can even fly to Alaska and rent one there.
Very very very happy to see you after long stay safe stay warm😮
Glad to see you Jay!
@@LizAmazing wow how you doing now a days
We bought a 1980 Class B. Upgraded the interior ourselves, painted the outside and added solar. Absolutely love it! So sorry this happened to these people. RV manufacturers need to step up.
I have great memories of growing up camping and vacationing with my parents RV. The old RVs were proverbial tanks. So sad to see how the industry has declined.
I have warmed up to you Liz, great job , think you might have found your calling in the world , ,, keep up the GREAT WORK
I hope you got to enjoy the sights and the wild life of Alaska, hopefully the weather was'nt to bad, and you could deal with the 21 hour day light. sorry to hear about the troubles you folks had .( do you know what the difference between a ordeal & a journey is. ? Attitude !
This is a sad story. Why isn't selling this junk a federal crime? Thanks Liz.
Especially when older folks have saved & scrimped to finally make their retirement dreams come true . . . Only to be robbed . . !
@@joygarrett8397
It is sad for sure ! Pt Barnum said : There is a sucker born every minute!
I think if your going to do a trip into a remote region with little support like Alaska, you better have your RV fully time tested and numerous trips under your belt in that unit to shake out all gremlins and identify weak spots. Newly built mechanical things including homes are known for having things go wrong for the first number of months. In boats, which I own, count on 15-20% of purchase price to get that boat right during the first year of ownership and then it drops to around 10% of purchase price for operations. Welcome to planes, trains and automobiles.
Yes, good tips. Thanks for watching.
My brother in law owned a RV transport company, 4 people in my family pull trailers of all kinds often, when he said he has rolled 4 bumper pulls I was dumbstruck! No one , not even my brother in laws employees have ever rolled a trailer! Maybe he needs to educate himself on RV’s , I’m really wondering if some of these problems weren’t owner errors.
I actually edited his story out. There was a log truck in front of him that lost his logs and that’s how he ended up rolling it.
@@LizAmazing That’s one, what about the other 3? I thought he said he rolled 4.
These poor folks made a big rookie mistake, they took a brand new RV on a very long and faraway trip. Us old timers know that you stay close to home for the first year and shake the crap out of that RV so the big issues fall out. They also found out that Thor destroys every RV it touches, their daughters Jayco was probably a Bontrager built Jayco.
Yes. That is very wise to stay close to home for a while. Thanks for your comment.
A good lesson here. We are getting a new custom class B camper van in 10 days, and Alaska is definitely on my bucket list. But not until 2026 - should have everything tested x 10 by then.
Might consider 2027, if you want to go to all of road accessible Denali National Park. We were told by a number of people in the know, that the back half of the park will be lucky to open by 2027. We enjoyed our 3 1/2 months there this summer, regardless. However, just thought you would like to know.
@@diann546 thank you. With wanting to drive the Cassian Hwy, the Dempster Hwy to the Arctic Ocean and a ton of other stuff, I can see making more than one trip. So all good either way.
Hi, I was hoping you were going to say if they received good words with Jayco or not. I'm hoping to be able to get out on the road by next year in a Jayco 30Z. I hadn't seen any negative video to discourage until this one. Could you give me your thoughts on Jayco's service department quality? Thank you for doing all that you do for others. ✌️😃
f you read the comments under this video you will see many folks chiming in that Jayco is not near the quality it used to be, unfortunately. Thank you for watching and I would recommend buying a used well built trailer.
Poor quality, no excuse.
Yep. It’s past time for them to become customer focused.
HI LIZ 😊 SO AWESOME OF YOU TO MAKE A VIDEO LIKE THIS. I AM SURE IT WAS A LOT OF WORK
Aww, thank you Linda! I've apparently become an RV advocate, and I'm ready seeing response from the RV industry. Thanks for being here, and stay tuned!
I live in a 1997 Hitchhiker 2 fifth wheel RV, it's very solid honestly I don't see myself giving it up to get another one because the more that I look at the newer ones it seems anything from 2015 on up it's just junk they're falling apart they don't last and the manufacturers don't stand behind them and for some reason the older ones are built solid better
Hang onto it for sure! Thanks for your comment!
We bought a 2000 Newmar Dutch Star diesel pusher over a year ago. Caterpillar 3126 Diesel with Allison transmission. It's a Freightlighter chassis. We put tires on it and had it tuned up. Spent about $6000 before we hit the road. Absolutely no issues except for a fuel filter that I replaced. We have put 8000 miles on. Everything works. Slide, jacks, water heater, fridge etc. Quality is great. Buy older. Easier on the pocketbook and much better quality.
Tip for everybody I had this same issue with a Class A it was used but I had a warranty dont get me started there but I was stuck for 3 days til an old timer gave me this tip If your jacks dont come up just the START RV and put it in gear..obvouisly dont me hold the brake down and they all have a fail safe and sure enough the jacks came up.
I recently purchased MCI 7 Challenger Greyhound bus converted to rv i am pleasantly surprised how bulletproof that bus is bulit i will challenge any new rv for round trip to Alaska and back !
Great job Liz thanks 👍
Thank you! Glad to see you here!
Liz, another great video. I feel so sorry for the people that buy new RVs. My wife and I also plan to go to Alaska for a bucket list trip. Our RV is a 1995 Fleetwood flair. Class A. We've had a few problems but we have an excellent place that has worked on the RV since new. It's sad to say, but our entire out of pocket for the RV and all the repairs is around 20K.. Now, we've only had it about 7 years. My wife has looked up the trip to Alaska, and we are going to take a ferry ride with the RV from Seattle up the inside passage to I believe Skagway.
Wow, that ferry ride will be awesome! I know it's pretty pricey but you'll save a lot on fuel and time. Happy travels Richard!
Liz has a great site but the best thing I learned this week was on The Wingmans channel where I found that RV dealerships DoNot have dealership agreements with manufacturers
I wish I didn't sell my 95 Jayco 5th wheel. That was the best. 4 slide outs. It was a gem. So now I have a 04 hurricane four winds haven't drove far enough yet. But it's been good so far.
Sounds like that Jayco was made back when they were good! Best of luck with your Hurricane, I've heard good things.
As a tech. Yes very small corn of us. Im a certified RVTAA tech train out oog athens Texas. This is my advise going to alaska. Take then one week course for user. This give you a better idea on how to simple fix or find certified field tech. I,ve had two customer going south and it took three text to finish the repair in three week one week in each camp ground.
Thank you for this, Wayne. I talk about inspections in my latest video that I just posted in your other comment. Will post here for others who might be scrolling by. ua-cam.com/video/MtnjxoljNa4/v-deo.html
I see the 100K plaque on your wall Liz! Way to Go! Congratulations.
Hi Kathy! Thank you, it's a good feeling!
Thank the Lord for Starlink! Only dependable item they had! Bless this couple.
yes! Thanks for watching.
Very good videos should help a lot of people. Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much for being here, Howard.
We were told by rv tech to purchase an rv between 2009-2013 eras. His reasoning was the rv industry crashed in 2008 with half the world! They really cleaned up their act the next few years as they were all vying to be #1. We purchased a 2012 39ft Montana that looked like it rolled off showroom floor. The seller did not have the right truck to pull her.
It was a fabulous rv!
We purchased it in 2015 for less than half price new. It worked out well for us.
Yes, people have various year ranges regarding that. I've always heard trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.