ATLAS CRAFTSMAN GRINDER HONE restoration pt 1
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- This is part 1 of a 2 part video.
In this video series, I restore a 70 year old ATLAS grinder hone. A very rare & interesting machine.
Be sure to watch part 2.
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Interesting little grinder....thanks for bringing us along 👍
Morning coffee and watching Mr. Pete nothing better 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Morning!
Thanks Mr Pete, the grinder hone will be good for another 70 years after you've serviced it.
Yes it will
Good Morning Mr Pete!!!
The Tennessee Mole Man
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Good morning!
Another good tubalcain video. Thank you sir
Somewhere in my "archives" is a 1955 Sears tool catalog along with some old Western Auto monthly flyers, etc. I'll have to look this up. At 72 Y.O. I know I'm a dinosaur by today's standards, but I miss the good old days. Keep'em coming Mr. Pete, I salute you.
I remember going to the western auto store in LaSalle, Illinois when I was a boy. Lots of neat stuff, but I had no money.
@@mrpete222 Our Western Auto was downtown. In San Antonio back in the mid-fifties everything was downtown. Going into Western Auto Dad would buy us a 6 oz. Coke & peanuts in those paper cone shaped cups out of the vending machine. Fond memories.
As always, Great job Mr. Pete!! I sure could use your skills around the Ranch with all my equipment, and all the attention they need!! Thanks again, Vic!!!
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Lyle, in the 10 plus years of watching your videos, I've come to the conclusion you Sir are in the resurrection business. As machinist we can make anything and save anything from the dust bin. Now to refill the coffee and watch this one.
Wow, thanks
Thanks Mr. Pete. I enjoy the still pictures at the end. Thank you.
Glad you like them!
I love your running commentary. Your quite a character.
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Always liked Atlas Press Company. I bought an old bench top drill press from a company I worked for years ago. Then i started putting together a small shop in my garage with Atlas machines. I sold my 6 in lathe but still have my power hacksaw and DP.
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Me Pete it is always a true blessing just to hear your voice of professionalism! As far as I am concerned the longer the better video. Thank you Sir!
Wow, thank you!
Very cool Mr Pete. I am nearly 60 and have seen or at least heard of what I thought was all the Atlas tools. this is a first for me. Thanks as always for unearthing cool things. Cheers
Glad you enjoyed it
I bought this exact machine, in the Craftsman livery, at a garage sale for $20. It was, as far as I can tell, unused and I might have been the first person to open the box! I have re-configured it with diamond wheels with coarse & medium on the end shafts and 3000 grit on the slow top wheel. It works extremely well to sharpen carbide tooling to a mirror finish. I was careful not to alter it so that it could not be put back to original condition, and have saved the guards & rests that originally came with it. It took some figuring to decide what to do with it, as I already had a good knife & chisel sharpening setup. It sits on a little stand with undermount motor and I reckon it will stay there untill my family disposes of it after my time is up.
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Another quality video from the best shop teacher. Thanks for what you do.
Wow, thank you!
I always watch the still pictures at the end, love to see the details.
I really love these old tools you find . They remind me of being over at my Grandparents house when I was young back in the early sixties looking at the Sears catalog with my Grandfather
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@@mrpete222 Lyle, you are the best professor in many trades. Even when something cannot be restored you can do it anyway.
Did you see any strange precision measuring tools before starret?
Brian from Ma.Thanks for the giggles this morning what a neat little machine anywho Besafe
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Lyle, I wish that you had decided to completely tear this grinder-hone down to remove the shafts & inspect the bearings, However, this is still a very interesting video series. I'd love to find one of these grinder-hones at a garage sale! Thumbs up!
The reason I didn’t do that, is that I knew it would not be a very popular video. And I was correct look at the numbers. Furthermore, that would be very easy to do it some other time.
Mr Pete thank you for another great video and Atlas made some nice machinery !
Thank you Mr Pete. I believe the problem that you are referring to on the wheel, is the absence of the blotter papers on the sides. Can't wait to see part 2.
The metal flanges, discs .
The safety infraction is: there are no paper blotters on the wheel mount.
An important note about this machine that I don’t think you mentioned is that the hone rotates at a significantly reduced speed compared to the main wheel arbor!
Keep up the good work 🎉
JIM ❤
@@jimc4731 He mentioned it no less than 3x
Professor Pete back in action.. Love it! Maybe a new Pete made teflon washer for that wasted fiber??? Don
Thank you Mr Pete love your videos
Glad you like them!
Hello Lyle, what is missing, is the card disks that go against the wheel, between the wheel and flanges. Looks like a niece piece of machinery.
I love bringing these old machines back to life, so its always great watching others do the same.
Thank you for sharing this.
The grinder/hone is missing
a cupped steel washer and paper blotter on each side of the wheel. Congratulations
for 294K subscribers for Mr. Pete. 300K is just around the corner.
Thanks sir I am absolutely loving the content and just got a atlas lathe and Bridgeport mill. So will be working on all the tutorials you provided us thank you again 😁😁
Great to hear!
I really like the bonus points pictures at the end.
Thanks
What a great little grinder.
I admit I don't always watch the still pictures at the end but if it interests me I do. I am a long time fan of tubalcain since I started watching I first got interested watching the bicycle coaster brake cutaway video. I went to Grant High School in 1990 in Portland Oregon we had shop classes we took apart and reassembled small motors. I don't know if they still teach those classes, and for a long time I lost interest in anything mechanical. I am turning 47 this year and I somehow have become interested and fascinated by mechanics again, thanks at least in part to your videos. Thank You!
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No need to repeat all the good comments, but I will add that I view the stills much more often than not. They are a good place to stop the video to check out a detail. 👍👍👍
I love it when there’s someone that knows what they’re doing resurrects old equipment well done, sir
Thanks
I vote that you completely take it apart! 👍
You always like to keep us in suspense! 😁👍
Came back from part 2 to watch this. Not disappointed!
My late father would probably have bought one of these. He was a gadget "enthusiast", and his genetics infected his son 😉
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What a super cool old tool. Also the grinder is neat too... 🤣😂 HA! Sorry Mr Pete, I couldn't help myself. 😉
No worries!
Great video Lyle. Thanks
A cool little tool sir.
I think the fault with the 6" stone is that some bright spark has removed the 'Blotters' , the stout paper discs either side of the stone. They are designed to even the stone agaist the forces on the clamp washer. Without these you can crack a stone like a carrot. Very dangerous indeed at 3000 RPM !
Looking forward to part two. Regards from Cornwall UK
The safety infraction:
Not the lack of paper washers,
rather the lack of two large steel flanges.
I have that exact model grinder-hone. It was my father's. The motor burned out and I would like to get it up and running with a new motor. I purchased a Harbor Freight bench grinder, but I would like to restore the Atlas. Thank you for the video.
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Get a Baldor or Leeson motor if you want quality.
@@Garth2011Leeson for the win!
As I see Lyle's new video, it reminds me of what the USA has lost by removing Shop classes as well as Civics from public education. But on a higher note, I see this channel has 294K subscribers. I still think Lyle, his home shop and any Streator H.S. stuff belongs in the Smithsonian as a memorial to what made America! (I emailed him about this years ago, but he didn't take to the idea at that time.). Gimme a Thumbs Up if you think at least a little of the history of "Shop" belongs in the Smithsonian.
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Nice project, very well built machine. Always stay right to the end for the still pictures or the extra credit 😁😁😁
Thanks Mr Pete - another great video. Put me down for extra credit for watching all the stills. John
You get an a for the day
Now I have to find yet another Atlas tool for my collection.
Lol an 1/8 of a pint. "What's with them in 1953?" 😂 Great video Tubalcain.
I like the design of that Atlas Grinder-Hone although nowadays I would need one with a light mounted to it. It will be interesting to find out how balanced everything is and if there are a lot of vibrations while it's running. Here's hoping it will not try to shake your bench apart!
The grinding wheel will cause most of the vibration. Remove the wheel if you primarily plan to use the flat honing stone.
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Atlas offered quite an array of machinery. It seems like they were aimed mostly at hobby market, but on the upper end of that market. I continue to run my Craftsman version of the atlas metal lathe. It is light duty, but still viable. Atlas engineers skimped on some quality or industrial machine features obviously controlling the cost.
I have never previously seen this unit. I have provision to do all of the functions this machine offers, some do them better. The hone feature is interesting. I suppose that the stones aren't available. A modern CBN wheel or square not drive modifications might rescue the old girl. It looks like a fun project, but wouldn't currently warrant my time.
Thanks for posting.
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Agreed: Atlas was the power company in the home machine shop in that era. They also bought Otto Clausing's lathe factory from Ottumwa Iowa to Kalamazoo. I think Otto was in the process of making a variable speed drive work for the lathe.
Interesting. I've never crossed paths with one of those in my travels.
always interesting video,s you have mrpete !
cheers ben.
I have one of those that I bought probably 20 years ago. It looks brand new but It didn’t have the hone wheel, and I haven’t done anything with it yet. Maybe these videos will prompt me to dig it out and see what I can do with it. Great video as always Lyle.
Looking forward to part two.
I have one of these from my Grandfather, always wondered what the top dish was for. The badge on mine is completely wiped clean, may have fallen victim to teenage me and some brake cleaner trying to read it. Wonder how hard it would be to cut a square hole in a replacement stone?
Was wondering about that too. A square hole in a grinding stone seems unobtainable. Cutting one at home appears impractical to impossible.
A square drive cylindrical plug (socket wrench, modified ?) bonded into a grinding wheel with a round hole of sufficient diameter. (?)
A new platen with a square drive and a recess for a mounting nut. To the platen a thin diamond grinding plate is attached (kind of like for a standard angle grinder). Multiple grade platens available. (?)
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Great video. Idea for a short video--describe the various metals and alloys used in die casting or what we used to call "pot metal."
That’s a nice quality machine just need a bit of TLC. Witch I’am sure it is about to receive. 👍
Thanks for sharing 👍 I only watch the stills if it's extra credit 😅
Always the best. From one old guy to another. The grind wheel looks like it may have been in a liquid. In my shop, that wheel would giit the trash after I hit it with a hammer hard enough to break it.
I already threw it away
Don’t forget to ring the wheel before putting it back.
I do adjust that in tomorrow’s video
Love the Made in USA. These tools are worth their weight in gold.
Nice project, could be very handy in the shop.
Your bronze worm wheel looks as though it has a lot of wear. There was a lot of backlash when you were spinning the worm back and forth. The worm itself looks as good as the day it was machined. Probably never find an exact match unless you make it yourself
If you rotate the worm gear shaft and pull up on the vertical shaft at the same time that shaft should come out.
Never seen one of the combo grinder hones before.
I had a chance to buy the Craftsman version (looks identical) for $50 bucks at the flea market about three-months ago, but I didn't want to carry the 300 yards to my car. I regret not buying it.
Wowsers,! Not a bad price,!
Thanks again
There should be a paper washer on both sides of the wheel.
I bet a lot of hand screw drivers that are hanging-up on Mr Pete’s workbenches shed some tears during the making of this video.
I have that exact one and it works very well
Lyle, that grinder/hone on today's money is about $300. If sold today, it still wouldn't be all that affordable.
Good Morning! In a previous video there was a set of micrometers for the blind shown. In Popular Mechanics 1947-09 volume 88 issue 3 page 147 there is an article on micrometers with braille. Enjoy.
Thank you, I believe I read that
Wondering whether a keyboard layout is available for programmer code. Anything's available in a virtual on-screen keyboard, but I mean one that can be plugged into the computer.
The blotters are missing from the grinding wheel. That grinding wheel I don't believe is the proper one for that setup IMO. I wouldn't run gear oil in that small unit. Just my preference. I have a similar grinder/hone made by Delta I bought about 25 years ago. Nice setup. As always, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the info
In addition to Atlas and Craftsman it was also badged under the DeWalt and Clausing brands.
Thank you, I did not know that
Honestly, the majority of machinery and power tools etc. from the past seem to be the stuff to have and keep. In some areas such as cordless drills and sanders today's stuff are for sure way better but, you can't buy a decent tool or power equipment these days without it having much Chinesium about it. Companies such as Starrett have sustained their place in their trade because they have always made decent parts. Even Wilton still does however, I know of very little folks who would spend $900+ on a bullet 4" vise for their home shop. Our economy today is so messed up.
Stop speaking the truth, lol
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i wish i could have been so lucky as to have had you a teacher when i was in highschool. the school i went to always pushed kids towards going to university instead of a technical school. i honestly have no idea if my highschool had a shop class.
The loss of shop classes in this country is a tragedy
i agree! i'm 34 and could have spent the last 2 decades or more learning about this wonderful hobby. the financial barrier of entry is enough that most of the enjoyment i get to have is vicariously through channels like yours. i really appreciate what you do here 🍎@@mrpete222
EDIT: i have been trying to teach myself how to weld though. so that's something :)
Hi Mr. Pete, I have a very similar machine , if not identical, branded Delta,I think. Any way it says it was made in penna. As soon as I have a chance I will take some pics and send them to you. Thanks for the imformation
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Interesting project
Buddy of mine has one. I have coveted it for years! My inflation counter APP says $31.50 in 1955 would be $358.00 today!
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By gum! That would be a handy little bugger.
Love your videos. You are a master class. I am a recent desk jockey turned basement wannabe tool finder and fixer. I found and bought 3/4 HP 3450 RPM vintage Westinghouse AC motor at an estate sale from an woodworkers home shop. I want to use one side as a wire wheel and the other as a buffer. do I need adaptor as it has keys and one missing on one of the two axels. BTW cleaned my Files using your lectures. Thank you
Thanks for watching. Yes put an adapter on both ends.
@@mrpete222 Thank you. If I could ask one more question. The Motor Shaft has key inserts (one side has the key and the other is missing...unfortunately I realize the other went flying when we tested the motor at the estate sale not realizing that thing that went flying who know where is a key. Doh Wahwah.. Soo0 assume I need an arbor adaptor with a key slot? The motor shaft is 2 inches long and 5/8 diameter w key slots. So a 3 1/2 length arbor with a key notch is needed I guess. Hopefully this is helpful for others in the beginners 101 class :). Thanks Mr Pete
Thanks for sharing
Lyle, they still make those buffing wheel adapter arbours... If you go get a new one, would that be an accessory after the fact? ;)
if you cant find a fiber washer... wonder if you could swap the 2? does the internal one do anything?
Where would you get wheels with square holes nowadays?
Always watch the complete video 10:32
Thanks
Fall of the House of Usher, someone else remembers Vincent Price from the 1050's.
You are the only one to catch that
Mr Pete,
I enjoyed this video as I've never seen an ACME tape used. I do have a question about the "Crescent" wrench. I saw you using it with the moving jaw in both the leading side turning direction and trailing side of turning direction. Is there a correct or best way to use it ?
There is the correct way. In fact, I have a video on that. But the reality is I don’t think it really matters that much. I have over 100 crescent wrenches and have never damaged one. Except in the video I just mentioned.
Again, when I bring UA-cam up, it's Mr. Pete that I search for first. Not enough like buttons on this site.
Thank you very much
awesome!
Dont need one but I want one !
The blotter paper is missing from the grinding wheel, as required by ANSI B7.
make sure u use yellow metal compatible gear lube. sulfur will damage the brass worm.
I don’t remember that the worm gear was made of brass?
@@mrpete222 it looked like it on the video,could have been the lighting.
no paper disc on the wheel
I have the exact one!! But I need a replacement hone stone for the top and I haven't been able to locate one.
I would like to have a new one also, but I doubt very much that there will ever be a replacement
@@mrpete222if you could find a large enough stone, a UA-camr with a water jet cutter could make them.
You've got to wonder if anyone tried powering that little grinder by connecting it to the three jaw chuck.
We will never know
no cardboard washers on the grindstone?
no blotters on the grinding wheel
Hey Mr Pete I have just gotten a south bend shaper. No luck opening the locks. Can I remove the screws to open the drawer? Not related but thanks.
I’m not sure, I would have to go down to the garage and look at it
I am also circa 1950-1955.
No blotter washers on either side of the wheel. Unsafe.
That wheel needs a replacement metal insert, get rid of the plastic it will fail as I'm sure you will confirm in part 2 😎