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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- I finally found one of my original shop built vises.
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No peck marks was not from not being used but rather because you were such an excellent teacher!
What a wonderful little project piece for students. I wish this sort of thing was in school nowadays, kids are sadly lacking in this department.
Yes very true. Excellent project and should be continued in our schools. Sadly, the kids are lacking in several departments because the adults have been lacking too.
You're correct! However, I've noticed that high schools are combining a lot of the individual classes into one large class. They are usually centered around computers , CAD, CNC 3D, as well as welding and machine shop. I think there's hope.
That’s why I went to a vocational high school, it got me recruited and I was working full time before I even graduated. But I guess that’s been a while not sure how it is today.
I wonder if Tom Cobb watched your videos.
I'm so glad you found that vise and then shared it with us. God works in great ways!
I envy you- making such an impact on so many lives. Every one of them remember and think of you from time to time, perhaps when they smell a machine shop, hear a press or lathe going or maybe when they drill a hole or run a saw. They will even remember the sound of your voice - an honorable thing.
And now, today, we here will remember you as well and will keep the fire burning.
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Thank you very much for that comment. Quite touching
I just got a Palmgren, with a drill press, that looks very similar to that one. Very interesting video. I lament the fact that High School Machine Shops have been discontinued all across the country. They actually taught more than machining. They taught responsibility, and other manly arts.
"manly arts...". That's a laugh. About 30% of the class was tuned in. For the rest, mayhem was the order of the day. Just ask Lyle.
I had an intro to metal and wood working in 7th grade. I loved it. At least the parts where we got to work. "This is the table saw. Copy the entire safety section on table saws, long hand, and turn it in. You will be graded on neatness. After this is graded, we will stand near the table saw and go over.........." I don't know one kid in a thousand that could manage that for weeks on end. Dad and I had already built a cellar, reroofed the house, put in central heat, and tiled the bathroom. Oh, and built a shed like an actual house. My partner in class didn't have a dad. So I helped him through the class. If you teach it to the level they are, it's possible. Making it a penmanship class with tools wore me out.
And they are manly arts. Just take a look at all the dandies we have dancing around now. If even 30% of them were men, and not bearded children, the world would be different.
Yeah we had all the dumb football players in shop.
I think alot more people than you realize are interested in the Peterson Products. I have to say, I am fascinated by it. Even after decades, you were going over the work done to make the vise. I can tell how much you care. Again another great video, Tubalcain !
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I had to smile when you mentioned drill press vise flying across the workshop and bouncing off the wall. The big pillar drill was the thing I feared most in our workshop. I 'think' it had a #4 Morse taper, and was huge. It had incredible torque, and it could have spun you up like a top if you didn't respect it.
As people that constantly chase as good as we can get it. It is hard not to criticize work, even our own. People should not fear criticism, it helps us to improve.
As someone who is shopping for my first drill press vise, your vise videos have been instrumental in my hunt.
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Thank you for sharing, Mr Pete. You are the most fascinating teacher I have ever encountered. I am glad to be able to attend your classes from my office, although I would have loved to attend in the workshop. Thanks again.
Thank you very much, no one else ever called me fascinating, LOL
@@mrpete222 I am honored to be the first, truly. I am so glad that I have found your UA-cam channel. A while ago, I simply searched for Tubal Cain on here, after reading some of your books. I was not disappointed. Thank you so much for sharing what you know so well. Your knowledge is invaluable.
I am your age. I remember shop class. I met an old shop class mate when I responded to a Craigslist ad for an unfinished shop built disc grinder.
Tom did a fine job on the vise. Maybe Tom will see your video about his vise. I wish shop classes would return to schools they were so useful to society and taught so much. I loved shop class. Thank you Lyle for sharing the vise and back story.
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Thank you Randy, I really like that video with your son
What would really be great is if Tom Cobb showed up to reclaim his vice!
Well, it's not his anymore.
Very nice and fortunate that you found that vice in such great condition. Thank you for all your videos.
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We did casting once in our materials science course in high school (made a couple of bells), but the teacher handled the actual casting process and we just cleaned up the parts after (I have fond memories of taking the flash off with an angle grinder - I ended up having to anneal the thing because bronze is ridiculously hard). I would have loved to have the opportunity to actually learn how to do it productively!
There really is something to be said for the value, for everyone, regardless of career, of hands-on classes like shop where you can immediately see the tangible results of your work. You learn much more quickly when reality itself tells you when you're wrong! In a way, computer programming courses also serve the same purpose; you can't argue the code into compiling, any more than you can argue a shoddy vise into gripping!
I fear a lot of the current "epistemic crisis" we find ourselves in as a society is partly the result of there being so little direct contact with reality in the modern world...
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They were lucky students to have you instructing them. I didn't have the option of metalwork at school. I was lucky enough to have an engineer dad so I was always around a machine shop from a very early age. Great video. Thanks Lyle
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Memories of bygone years. Who doesn’t reminisce in sadness of what now seems like better times. Keep in mind in a few years today might be remembered as a good time gone, especially when it comes to the grandkids! Something about those vices intrigues me too.
School back in session.. again.. awesome content.. just discovered the channel
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If I ever see one it’s coming home with me. I’d be honored to have something a student of yours made.
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The kids must have been very proud of their accomplishments, thanks to you. How did we get to a point where there are no manual trades taught anymore, anywhere? Every kid, boy or girl, would benefit greatly from at least a couple semesters. I would take it one, unpopular, step further and suggest that every kid serve at least two years in military. We would be a different country.
It is surely a different world today. When I was in High School (79-82), we were required to take both Shop and Home Economics. It taught us the basics of using hand and power tools for both wood and metal, as well as how to cook, sew and balance a checkbook.
I think it all started after the federal government got their hands on the public schools- after that, the public schools went down the toilet!
Dale Burrell Absolutely, just look at the clowns running the country today, and I don’t mean Donald Trump.
T Murray ...but at least "CLOWNS" are ENTERTAINING- the creeps who are wrecking this country from the INSIDE, are more accurately described as "EVIL BASTARDS"!!
I really want to have a machine shop too small of an Budget and they don’t even teach machine shop a schools any more what a shame! I’m 12 ranting about this!
Very satisfying to find a vise your student made. I have been looking for a drill press vise but they are so expensive. Thanks for the video.
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I just totally want a T-shirt that says "I'm a 4H pencil man". Tee Squares and fine construction lines baby!
still have my drafting tools,learning cad gives me a headache.
Don't forget to ghost draw your vanishing point lines, dark lines are a pain to clean off the drawing!
I graduated in '86 at 17 years old (Dec. birthday) and turned 50 last Dec. Was this a jr. high class or high school? If jr. high Mr. Cobb is probably closer to 46-47 today. I wish we had shop classes in our small town. We had the choice of PE, Home Ec or Agriculture (we were an orange grove community). I am sure you impacted way more lives than you will ever know. In fact, you are STILL impacting lives in a major way. Thank you.
Tenspeed TheBikeHanger I graduated in 1985 and I was was panicking doing the math thinking, "OMG, am I 55?!" 😃
Lyle, it's good to see you still have a good Grip on things with many vices . 😎
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What a fantastic project, in my 1 hour shop class for engineering school we just made a basic C clamp from aluminum. Casting and machining a vise would be much more fun.
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A really nice vise from Peterson products. I am sure lots of your loyal fans would love to purchase an aluminum casting that they could machine into a vise. Collectors item sort of thing.
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I suspect it may have been used more than you think it was. I have some comercial vises and in particular a SPEED VISE that does not have a single mark on it but when I got it, it was nearly froze tight from machine cutting fluids, crud and grime. I was taught many years ago (retired tool maker here) that you put a piece of waste wood or metal under your project. This prevents damage to the vise. Rather than being sad that the student never used it, prefer to think he learned that lesson early on and it saw a lot of careful use! :D
Yes, the waist wood Is very good practice. And maybe the user of the vise was extremely careful like you. Thanks for watching
I can think of many uses for an aluminum vise like that in my shop..I do lots of light-duty drilling when I make cutlery and something lightweight such as a vise like that would be very pleasant to use. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
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Mr Pete, Thank you for teaching those young men and possibly women. I'm very sorry to hear that they stopped the machine trades classes where you were teaching. And very nice vice as a project for a young student.
This was fun. Great to see a previous student's project with your grade at the time. And it was interesting to hear about your kit. I'm sure you influenced lots of students over the years.
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Hi Lyle, thanks for the trip down memory lane. I've only recently discovered your channel and have become an avid subscriber. I just wanted to congratulate you on making such great videos. We are losing a lot of our "Old Timers" and with that, the wealth of knowledge that they have to impart, so I'm grateful that you are immortalizing what you know and sharing it with the world.
Here in Australia we have "Men's Sheds" where our "Old Timers" are available for people to gather, hang out or share info and make stuff. You would really fit in well with one of these places.
Just a side thought about old timers and Tubalcain - this could very well make you a very, very old, "Old Timer". (absolutely no offence mind you)
Thanks for watching and I’m glad you like my videos. I have heard about those sheds. Wish we had something like that around here. Keep watching
@@mrpete222 Check them out on Google - maybe this is something you could start in your own neighborhood. & I'll keep watching :)
The history videos are always interesting. I went to a vocational high school in Chicago that had a very well equipped foundry. In addition to aluminum and brass they did some semi steel with an indirect rocking electric furnace. I remember the electrodes being about the diameter of my arm. When the furnace was running it was very exciting. Thanks for your videos.
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thats so awesome, Mr Pete. thanks for sharing
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That vise was made the year I was born! I love watching you videos!
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THANK YOU...for sharing. Nice work Tom Cobb. Enjoyed.
I was at the local junk store about two months ago browsing through a box of tools when I found this obscure little aluminum gadget. I quickly bought the little gadget and I thought that I had just bought something previously made by Mr. Pete. Even though I didn't know what the dadgum thing was I thought that it would be neat to throw in one of my toolboxes because I thought that it was made by Mr. Pete and I really enjoy his videos. However, when I got home and did a little research I realized that my gadget was made by Petersen Enterprises and not Peterson Products. I am now the proud owner of some part that I think goes to a punch press.
It's great to see what you have done to teach young students good machine shop skills. That project has a lot of different operations that would hone your skills and make you think about the steps in producing all the parts. Very nice job! Thank you for all your efforts to help everyone do better! Ed Hicks
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Glad that piece made its way back around to you. Thanks for sharing.
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I like the still shots for review at the end of the video.
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Love this share of more historic times for your life & times, these are important to us to see and learn about. Thank you for sharing it.
Word of the day Lament (mourn aloud, we hear you)
Lance & Patrick.
Love you Mr Pete. You have been a great help to my home shop..
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Mr. Peterson's Opus...........we seldom realize what wonderfully positive influence we may have on a kid 10, 20, or 30 years later. Good on ya Mr. Pete!!!
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It will be an exciting video to have more of the completed projects added to the ones you've already have made. It's shameful the fact that education deems it an undesirable art.
3H pencil here. Nice drafting work. A bit of 'play' is often desirable for irregular objects being held. We only had 2 lathes and I don't recall a Drill Press. Welding and woodwork all in the same shop. Teacher was missing part of a thumb thanks to Table Saw. Lesson remembered.
Now that was enjoyable to watch.
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I love the videos on Peterson Product projects. Ive been keeping an eye out for some of your stuff for sale . Id love to see more of it.Its very interesting .Great Video Lyle
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That really cool to find abut from your past! Think I would have like being in your classes. The school I went to only allowed pouring lead and turning lead on the lathe. Could make anything that was useful with lead! Can you imagine the safety freaks today knowing we where work with heavy metal in school! Thanks for sharing!
We board and awful lot of lead In my classes over the years
Wow, all these years I tried not to peck my vices and now you tell me that vises are supposed to be pecked!?!?!? Well after watching this, I went down stairs and had a great time drilling holes in them!!! ; )
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Great video. Thank you for posting. Wish I could have taken your class back then. But, you sure made yourself available in videos. So I shouldn’t complain too much about not being in your shop class.
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I still own a few of my shop projects. Most of them I proudly presented to my parents, who used them and then lost them over the years. This might be how young Tom's vise appeared at an auction.
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Hopefully Tom gets to see this. Great little vise there👌
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Mr. Peterson you crack me up!!! 7:59 "This is what a vise is supposed to look like"
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Thank you for sharing, I found this very satisfying and uplifting to watch, I think, in part, because you created an opportunity (Peterson Products) to fill a need (having useful projects for students to make) where there was a gap in the market.
"...you created an opportunity...". Lyle told us earlier that he was completely repulsed by his business experience. Worked at it day and night, and never made a dime.
All the memories!
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Interesting about the aluminum supply you used for the materials. Now days you probably won't find an old piston unless you go to salvageyards.It seems no one even overhaules engines any more these days.Our local small town GM dealer gave away its valve grinder a few years ago and no one grinds valves and overhauls anything anymore.
There are a few of us left
Yes, Napa closeddown there Machine shop years ago
I own a Sioux dry valve machine and a seat grinder since 1981. Have rebuilt many heads. Yes, I am Mr. Pete's age. Trying to teach my one grandson about shop stuff. He is 21 and a Diesel mechanic.
Mr. Pete, you sure have a lot of vices! LOL
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Your must have been a hell of a Great Machine Shop Teacher. The world now needs Teachers like you. There are many T Square Triangle $H Pencil men still here.....lol. Did you try and locate the student that made machine the Drill Vice? He would probably love hearing from you. Best Wishes - keep up the good work.
Thanks. No way of locating him
I like it! Good project.
TC, Pretty cool that you found a vise from one of your students!
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I still have some my completed projects, including my small anvil, from high school shop class. Unfortunately, in my years, we did not make a drill press vise. High school management should bring back the industrial arts. Do you still have the list of high schools that bought your Peterson products? I don't remember yours. I graduated from Ste. Genevieve, Missouri high school many moons ago.
I've had a few pictures I would put painters tape over too! Enjoyed the video Mr. Pete! Thanks!
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I can see that vise being very handy is lots of situations. Not real heavy but strong enough for most stuff. Looks like a nice vise to me😎
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I would like to see what you looked like when you were younger. Don't be shy now! ;)
Ha Ha .Probably looked like one of the 'nerdy' types his description of himself at the time picture was taken , the types he has a dig at now and again about having lack of ability tackling simple repair work on mechanical items because we live in a throw away age .
Those were the good old days when kids would get to do foundry.
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Great video! Would love to see a short video my Tom Cobb as he remembers the vise and shop class.
Hey Mr. Pete, I would like to see you put the finishing and remedial touches to that vise. Best regards, Mike UK
I hate to disagree but I think it should be left as the student finished it.
Interesting video Mr Pete
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My wife was a school administrator in the 80 's & 90 's . she worked very hard to keep shops in schools , but lost the battle to people that said all kids should go to college .
Since nearly all of the machine shop activity went to junior college/community college venues, your wife was on the wrong side of that struggle.
That is very interesting to know
I guess I should feel lucky -- I went to US Grant middle school in Spfld. Ill. from 6th to 8th grade, we had industrial arts with several project programs, radio and TV, drafting, small engine repair, electronics, construction and manufacturing. In the construction class we actually built a scaled down partial house module that included a small part of every house building trade from the ground up. I went to Spfld. high school from '74 to '77, we not only had wood shop and metal shop there was also an off site 2 year vocational program you could take in junior and senior year, many good trades were available. I took auto mechanics, there was also auto bodyshop, HVAC, carpentry, nursing and business/accounting. How come they found money for such programs then but we have nothing now and pay more than ever in taxes. Schools have become politically driven brainwashing academies, they dont want you working for yourself they want you working for them-! lol
Everything you said is true
I think we are seeing a reawakening of the value of vocational training. Just not in high school. A bit later.
Its really a black eye on America, closing down vocational schools. Weve always needed skilled labor over book learners with thousands in debt before making a dime. When i was in vokie as soon as i had my driver's license . I was working in a machine shop at nights . I enjoyed my schooling over hating book pushers and grades for nothing. Learn a trade work for life . That was in 1970 to 1974.
Wow, what you said is so very true
How cool! You ought to see if he’s still in your area and see if you influenced his future. I know my metal shop teacher sure influenced mine.
I'd be real curious to see your old pict... As far as I'm concerned, in 1985, my whole head was covered with hair... lol
The times where T squares, and large drafting tables were the way to draw even the most complicated items, and, it all worked out... 👍👍😎😎
He does show it in a video, 2 or 3 years back IIRC. He's sporting some fancy Mike Brady shades in it.
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Mr Pete some day I hope to find some Peterson products I think there great
Thank you Mr. Pete greetings from Namibia
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You gave the grade BA for bad ass!
I would love to have been in your shop class. I'm in the weight age range. We never got to do anything that cool. Probably too many knuckle heads.
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When you said this is what a vise is supposed to look like I yelled out no it’s not. 👀
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I enjoy these videos, I would be really interested in printing out one of these and a steam engine type engine and casting it with aluminum! Not sure if it’d work though with aluminum? And building it as as a project. Oh do I wish my school had a machine shop class! I was only able to take auto. Great work Mr.Pete!
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I took metal shop in High school back in 1982/83. The teacher never presented us with the option of ordering your products. We had to come up with our own ideas.
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The last time I bought any Black Tuffy was in 1972, yet I found a gallon of it in my storage shed just last summer. Probably not any good anymore. It's OLD just like me. Regards, Solomon
You are the first one to comment on black tuffy. I also used sometimes black stretchy.
That was wonderful, the loss of the teaching of these skills to high school Students , is disappointing.
Don't you think a little sideways "float" can be advantageous ?
It will clamp up irregular pieces.
It was an option
Staightness of the fixed jaw is what is most important.
What a nice vise and a fine project for a high school student! Our society is paying the price for dropping all the tech school programs - my construction company friends no-bid projects every day because they can't find people to do the work of building them. "If you're an experienced carpenter, plumber, electrician, framer, roofer, then you tell me how much it will cost to hire you," one told me recently, and he can't get enough people at any price. It's bad enough we're seeing technical and craft programs coming back.
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What was the other tool you saw at the auction. Some time I should help you finish the small bandsaw
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Wood vise
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I took a job in my old high school about 22 years ago. I graduated in the 70s. At that time all the shop classes were discontinued and the equipment was warehoused in a garage area. What surprised me is they said the reason was lack of interest from the students. Don't know if this is true everywhere, I live in central pa.
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nice vice id like to have a couple of them .....lol
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I too was sad to see that vise didn't seem to have any use on it. Its 34 years old and still never used.
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love it.
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Too bad they eliminated all the metal shops in schools, I had a great time there and learned a lot too.
i enjoy this one
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Come on Mr. Pete...take the tape off! 👍
In my high school days I never understood why you had to choose Drafting, Woodworking, or Metals classes and in the three years not take each for a year. Would have been fun and useful making a vise.
Quite interesting. I would think an aluminum drill press vice would be handy. The lighter weight appeals to me these days!
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Enjoy your videos ..ty..nice shirt
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I appreciate these videos. Keep em coming as you find the treasure! Thanks for showing the instructions and prints. Never know, I may need to do this too sometime....
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The most complicated project I ever built in shop class was a "C" clamp...
Great info! I know you don't want to do it and I understand but I would like to have a set of castings for that vise.
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Only thing taught today is how to sell insurance...lol.
People can’t even change a tire😂🤣😂
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Change a tire? lol, most can't even put air in one...
What about fixing a flat or putting the chain back on your own bicycle. I got one new bicycle all the rest I built from parts found in a scrap pile. I really don't think that children ride bikes anymore.