10NL but EVERY TIME I HAVE KINGS I LOSE A STACK?! | Top 10 Hands Of The Week Ep. 52
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- After a brief intermission of running decently last week and having some heroes donate to the challenge, we are unfortunately back to earth with a rather large bang. Honestly I forgot how sick this week was in the context of everything else, but every one of these hands is within a sample of 4000 hands played over a week. And it might not be the worst week in terms of beats, but to lose this many times with kings certainly seems unreasonable at the very least...
Can you see any of the hands where you wouldn't have gone broke? I think you could have a case for maybe one or two, but not many! I decided to leave in a lot of my reactions for this one and I was getting a bit annoyed, but by the end I kind of started to lose my mind!
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My favorite part was when the coach goes "No but you could have saved .5 of a big blind though"
Dont think I've ever cry laughed at a poker video before. Absolutely lost it at ben saying you could have saved half a BB. Keep grinding man your content is A+
Hahaha thanks a lot man. Ben is very proud of that comment.
was thinking the same when watching xd
Love these vids Nick. This was one of the best yet. Thanks for making me feel better about tilt/mental game/etc. Keep your head up.
Thanks mate, much appreciated! I'll keep going for sure 💪
The kk hand vs A2s and A2o cracked me up so hard man unlucky 😂😂
just the remaining 2s lad nothing to see here
"It's not even funny, it's JUST a joke." Now THAT'S funny!
Nick: “look how tight everyone is”
Bena: “Nothing happened yet”
That cracked me up so hard mate, the boiling point when we are seeing bad outcomes before they happen and Bena trying to calm us down 😂😂😂
Hahaha Bena had some good nuggets this week!
Absolutely howling at the last hand and interaction.
You've just got to believe in your hands mate
Been doing it wrong this whole time 🤣
Yu have to believe in the heart of the cards
Hey dad! Chin up! The run bad has got to turn around eventually
Thanks son!
Brutal as ever but the rage in that last hand was hilarious. Hope Vegas went better than the 10nl challenge!
It did go better but that is a very low bar 🤣
YOU'VE GOT TO BELIEVE IN THE HEART OF THE CARDS YUGI!!!!!!!
As a big Yu-Gi-Oh fan, I should have known this was the key.
Thanks for this buddy ! Watching this is like therapy. I know so g d well how u feel, and identify so much. Its like watching some of my own hands. I just couldnt stop laughing. Hope it turns around soon
Bet fold in turn
Thanks Alex! Glad you enjoyed it.
I haven’t laughed so hard for a while but the last hand reaction got me😂😂
haha glad you enjoyed mate!
@@eastyyy22 mate i have watched this so many times i just literally have to cry from laughing. Even my girlfriend had to laugh so hard haha. Btw the downswing on itself in understand i really hard i have been on 40-50
Buy in downswing myself. Glgl
@@robinjansen6145 haha thanks man, appreciate that. We go again!
Imagine me being in the booth and not antisweating. THAT'S how bad it was...
some days are too dark even for us to enjoy
ABSOLUTELY POETIC lmfao
I was feeling frustrated today because I had a tournament ticket to use, so I spent 2 hours being completely card dead and powerlessly watching utter beloogz accumulate massive stacks.
So I watched Nick's video, because those are great to relativize :)
Hahaha glad to be of service lad.
@12:04 Ben : " You could have saved 0.5bb there"
He's been living off that comment for ages...
Ahhh loves this one. PMA Nick! Happy Sunday!!
Glad you enjoyed mate! Happy Sunday.
What a video, pure class! Definitely feel the pain, glad that the challenge has turned around from this point.
Thanks a lot lad! I haven't checked but I think the upswingl is very close now 💪.
I think you can win a lot by inducing and by pot controlling more. Obviously preflop KK isn’t going anywhere, however post on boards like J97 you’re never going to stack weak Jacks or A9 but you will get stacked by all hands that beat your overpair.
KK needs dry Q or J high boards and clean run outs to stack AQ,KQ,AJ. Also,
Try implementing weirdly small sizing to induce bluffs.
Basically, work on your redline a lot and that will help offset when you run bad with your QQ+.
Absolutely love this videos. When I tilt and I run bad I come here and see what is the Real run bad. Infinity of bad luck. Poker is math and you gotta believe that variance is going to even out things for the better...but this run bad sessions are f***ing horrendous...
This was definitely a test but there are brighter times ahead for sure!
Yeah i couldn't do this, it looks like a nightmare
STAIN STAIN STAIN
thanks to you i know that i'm not the only one, cheers
Glad to be of service!
So absolutely sick hands in there fella… chin up 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Thanks mate! We are going to leave the dark times behind now.
Benjamin Disrali! Coulda saved point 5 of a big blind though!
😂
its a banger once again.
Thank you my friend!
Them both having A2 killed me.
and me lad
There is nothing more annoying than someone saying oh you’re losing because your attitude is bad, like it changes the run outs or something. So frustrating. You’re allowed to be frustrated nick, the game is absurd sometimes, fuck em all 🍻
Couldn't agree more mate! Thanks a lot, will continue to tilt my nut off whenever this happens 😅
Great stuff! Lol. So happy I quit playing.
hahaha seems a good decision!
That was really really gruesome!!
One of the worst!
ty for the vid, im not alone
there are many of us friend
You're funny mate lol
love you lad
He's back!!
we back bby
was howling watching parts of this. Mostly as I was also sure it was impossible to win a hand during the back end of Feb & had a similar response. Hope it turns shortly!
p.s. is there anywhere we can keep track of the results of the challenge?
Haha thanks a lot mate, glad you enjoyed it. Will be an update video in the next few weeks!
Sadly very funny but in quite a horrific way. The rants are gold though it really is that simple.
Honestly this vid series just gives a dismal insight into how insane variance is. To be breakeven after 66K hands with the size of the edge you have over field is depressing, just takes so fucking long to build a roll esp. if one has has a full time job.
Glad you enjoyed mate! It's all part of the journey, we have some run good coming 💪
my day's been like that as well mate. All day running Aces into flopped straights, sets into river flushes, top two into sets. My morale got pretty low tbh
We got this mate, power through 💪
I thoroughly enjoyed this one, lad
Shocking that
I think that zoom games are pretty tough. Doyle said "poker is war, but people pretend that it is a game" which may have been true when he said it; and indeed, we are still playing for money. However, to the people who aren't treating it as war (the fabled "recreational players" who don't even watch Brad Owen despite somehow still wanting to donate thousands to you) it's still a game, and it follows the life cycle of games that people play for fun. Imagine trying to be a Warcraft 3 or a Counterstrike or a Super Smash Bros or a Tetris player right now at a competitive level. Imagine how fucking hard that would be.
Why is it hard? Because the people who were content to lose aren't playing anymore. The value of the game as a *game* (and not a dimension of discipline/mastery) has been exhausted. Maybe they play normal tables on GG or they play zoom on ignition because a HUD is too much work. Maybe they are there. But the training material you see these days that assumes you can just sit down in any $2/$5 and the action will go limp limp limp jam for 35BB and the guy shows up with A2s... yeah, no.
Obviously you will get these donks who will sometimes show up with some bullshit and sometimes it will get there. But you have the persistent drip drip drip of the rake too, and every 4 or 5 sessions you've paid so much rake that you have to stack a fish just to pay for it. So if you can't articulate an edge that you have against the regs, then you're probably just treading water.
You keep saying obviously you're all in in these spots where it isn't actually obvious, or at least it should be contingent on the relevant HUD stat, I am convinced there are guys in these pools who literally just play tight/passive until they have 2 pair plus then stack it off hoping someone has one pair.
This idea of being a pro poker player--- you want to sit on your computer and receive goods and services from the rest of the world who are shoveling literal shit, slitting pigs' throats, entering data all day, whatever; they are paying you because you are good at balancing-- or not balancing-- an overbet range, and the bad reg who leaks to you is paying for "recreation" and will just keep paying without plugging the leak? I mean it's hard to existentially justify that to the point that you'd be on solid ground raging because the world isn't handing you that.
If you can't beat 10NL, either the game is unbeatable or you need to work harder to beat it, that's the bottom line. I feel like there are some guys who are beating it but they are very unlikely to tell you what lines they are using on reddit or whatever. I suspect from my 100k+ hands of experience that this stake that they are doing highly exploitative things to engineer a line on your part which they can exploit. Like using stone bluffs instead of natural bluffs so that their HUD stat looks the same but they have all the high equity semibluffing hands in their calling/checking range. Or they are using reverse timing tells so that you call in a spot where you're always folding or always calling a river. If I knew exactly then I would be profitable. But I don't think it's like "oh i drilled with GTO Wizard for 6 months now I grind out 2bb/hr through passive exploitation." Maybe some guys moved up that way. But the level of mental horsepower to implement that over the hands you have to play with 20s timers? You probably have to develop it off-table or on "normal" tables. Like speed chess, it doesn't make you a better overall chess player because you're forced to cut corners. So zoom is its own thing-- time equity and all that.
In any case, the money isn't coming because they got it in pre with AKs, KK+ and held. It's other edges for sure.
Fedor said not to think about where you are today because it's totally irrelevant to the money/stakes you will eventually be at. Use the place you eventually want to be at as your frame of reference and compare the man you are today to the man who beats that level and what you *know* about how he organizes his life and approaches the game.
If you do that then you realize that 10NL is just a training tool, a dojo, not much different than pokersnowie or GTOwizard. You wouldn't get angry if you got it in good on pokersnowie, because no money is involved and the whole point of it is 'did I make the right decison.' So with real players you have reads and stats, but it's the same principle. Compared to where you aspire to be, you are basically playing for no money. So losing it to a stupid suckout really shouldn't hurt.
Happened to come across the channel this weekend - enjoying the content but man, those hands were just really brutal. Hopefully will be able to learn from some of your stuff as I try to beat NL5
Thanks a lot for watching bud! Hopefully it's useful to you.
Just another standard set of run outs for the luckwood. Lol.
At it again aren't I
Absolutely insane to see the comments saying to fold in the A2 hand btw. Only lose to a 2 and 99, and beat all the whale offs with top pair, small pairs, draws, or even random air that these fellows are known for. There's making tight folds and there's being Mike Postle...
Hahaha I thought you would be one of the ones wanting a fold to be honest but yeah, vs these two just flicking it in.
@@eastyyy22 Definitely not in that one. Actually a pretty high EV call imo.
I would pot control in some spots like hands 5 and 2, and folding kings pre in hand 1 is actually a thing since you're not pot committed. But that's it.
"WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT?!" is my personal poker mantra, too.
Hahahah reasonable mantra to employ
My god thats some run bad, couldn’t help but laugh. From watching you I think you could be playing much higher stakes than 10NL on 888. So keep going mate,l can’t run bad forever
Thanks mate! I will play higher but I have to finish this first 💪
@@eastyyy22 yeah I get you. Seen you play higher stakes before. Also said this before, personally think you’d easily be a winning player at 50, and good chance at 200 (888 don’t seem to have a 100 player pool). Just so you know I’m break even at 100nl on stars and 4bb/100 at 200nl on 888. Obviously from your point of view - I could be some 2nl whale (so don’t have to care about what I say). But been watching some of your run bad, get this challenge over with, and start climbing the stakes!!!!
Dear God, the fucking A2 vs A2 vs KK 922 or whatever it was holy shit, then the AA vs ATcc runner runner, plus all the others. How will this challenge ever end lol
I'm not sure mate but it has to at some point!
Savage
Fold pre
Can't argue with this one
That was a satisfying 16 mins of footage. FYI I have mastered ending online poker run bad. When you can't win with good hands the key is to get in it in bad. 5b AI with AJs and rundown KK n its over.
Thanks mate, will try this! 😅
Keep on going the bad run. At least we can laugh a lot
I got you bro
Class video lad
Cheers Stoosh!
Have you considered playing reg tables?
Do kings hold on reg tables?
@@eastyyy22 that’s the rumour I heard
Cool Video
Thanks Steve!
Mate you are in a massive tilt
You noticed?
@@eastyyy22 I did but did you?
How many hands have you played? It is really hard, if you can't ignore bad luck its really hard to make a living out of playing poker. You just grind yourself down mentally.
Having a positive attitude and being able to have thick skin is more important then being a GTO god.
Like 120k now. It's definitely been a good learning experience!
Meltdown starts around 14:45. Thank me later.
Some rough ones this week Nick, I’d have quit a long time ago.
Quitting not an option for this one lad, we go again.
Nick, have you shared your EV graph over this bad run? I'd be interested to see it. I'm about 18 buy-ins down on expected EV at 10NL over 160K+ hands. Does that make you feel better or can you beat it?
I have shared it on UA-cam, you can find it under the 10nl challenge playlist! I can beat it lad 💪
@@eastyyy22 Ok, I'll give it to you. That run is horrible. Part of me want you to turn it around, but part of me also wants you to run that bad for 200k hands like me, so I don't feel so bad about it.
@@karmababy5077 well part of you will be happy that's for sure!
Think of it this way Nick your running terrible right now its also possible and will happen on your journey that you'll run insanely good
You are right! We started already 😅
Hey Nick, i forget the other personality in your videos but i think it would be interesting to allow him or someone else to play on your profile for a couple of live sessions and see if they get the same results. Then you play on their profile and see if you get better results.
This is against the rules unfortunately!
To be honest, I would play on a different poker site by now lol...the way you are running hahah
Not long until the rejuicer now my friend, riding out the pain is half the battle.
I do that, sometimes I just switch poker rooms, cuz the bad runs are just too sick
Time for cereal!
What we got this morning lad?
@@eastyyy22 letter-Os, but somebody ate all the A's and just left K's
@@KavortOfficial owww
this 22Q hand - calling 2 people and complaining - just ridicolous
16:19 how do u fold KQ on the btn vs a sb 3 bet, that is either call or easy 4 bet.. KQ on btn vs sb is the nuts
This is just devastating to watch...
We are reaching the end of the pain but your solidarity is much appreciated 😅
Hey. Not sure how many buyins under Ev you are running, but variance can be brutal. Take a break for some Time when your mindset is not on point. Setups are a part of the game. Best of luck and keep your head up!
Talked about taking a break but decided to crack on. We have some more positive times ahead!
I also wonder if you enjoy the grind. That’s a real question, is it still fun?
I have to be honest, my enjoyment of the challenge is very limited. But also it will feel 10000x better when I finally complete it.
I want to preface this question by saying that I'm a poker noob so not trying to give advice - but why do we bet small (especially on turn) allowing them to draw. Do we not want to charge their draws. Especially at 10NL where the pool is weaker than you, and not thinking about the hands the way you do. Instead you can exploit them by making them pay for the draws (e.g. hand #3)?
Once again, I'm not a good player so genuine question.
My thinking comes from the fact that in my experience lots of people see bigger (pot) sized bets as bluffs and will continue and see small bets as stronger holdings trying not to 'scare off' the opponent. Small bluffs work less at these stakes so players only see bluffs as bigger sizes?
There are extremely few draws in hand 3. The only draw is AXcc, and with the Kc on the board he needs to have AQ/AJ/AT of clubs to have a draw.
what a painful one... guess i´ve gotta fold KK pre more often 🥲
Fold or open jam, I'll try some of both.
just start open jamming your kings pre mate
Can't argue with this lad
easy fold 6:43
must take so much energy to cry over every bad beat. this happens to everyone. KK vs AA will even out.. not where the winninsg will come from. gl on your quest
It doesn't necessarily even out by any means. It's just this challenge is taking an insane amount of patience and every bad beat pushes it further down the road.
Awful luck! Can't help thinking you were too aggressive on some fairly wet boards, though, and maybe you could have folded a few times. But what do I know? I sometimes wonder why I play the game as a hobby. Playing for a living... I couldn't do it.
I don't really think there's much I could have done in these. Maybe the 22Q board but everything else is what it is.
Just move up to where they respect your raise
Got to win a grand first lad
mate I think you need to slow down on the GTO stuff at 10NL tbh that's if you want to beat it, why you checking KK on the Q22 board?
This is a pretty standard range check in any game.
@@eastyyy22 according to what? GTO?
@@lifeswings4266 you got something that can solve this spot?
@@lifeswings4266 'range check' :))))))))))
@@eastyyy22 mate i wouldn't be surprised if solvers said this is a 100% check but that's not my point you shouldn't be caring in the slightest about solver approved plays at 10NL
I'm giving myself a pass. You were away. I lived my life fir week and now its 19:33 and I've missed the algo window. We will get back on track next week.
Your effort has been noted and is acceptable to me.
So how close are you to the $1,000 mark now?
got an update coming out soon lad!
if nothing else, this video sort of underscores how you seem to insist on playing for stacks (postflop) whenever you have a top pair hand, regardless of how the board runs out and regardless of how the opponent(s) respond to your bets.
but I guess it is a "highlight reel" so maybe you don't really do it every time.
it's like whenever you get AA or KK you decide you're going to play for stacks before you even see the flop.
kind of like the bad live reg that waits for hours to get AA and then loses his stack when he has red aces and the board is 6789 with 3 clubs.
yeah, it sucks when they flop a set on you or turn a flush, but there is no rule that says you must lose your stack with a one pair hand.
or is it some GTO thing I am unfamiliar with?
Lol
vegas
The problem Is that Ur never folding a pair...
what would you like me to fold mate?
wdym?
Mate idk anymore
This is exactly why I quit online poker. It’s almost unbeatable at this point. The sites being rigged for action is so blatantly obvious at this point. It doesn’t matter how tight you play, how fundamentally sound you play. I’ve held aces and gotten beat so many times all in by smaller pairs it’s sickening. Having a set on the flop them getting coolered by runner runner same suit or connecting cards to give a flush or straight. May as well fold 2 pair in the flop cause runners are coming. And still people are going to scream, “variance”, “bad player” etc. y’all are brain dead zombies at this point if you can’t see.
that's the worst session i've ever seen bro.. almost unbelievable but then again it's fast fold poker you can expect anything.. keep it up!! "edit" it's a week's hands so even more logical to happen
It can happen! Thanks man, we go again.
RNG RIGGED
dude this is really painful to watch
It can't last forever lad
A2 and A2o that literally looks scripted
Wdym mate q22 is super reasonable
Let's do a 10NL challenge they said, it will be fun they said...haha what IS the point? keep fighting? Might want to stop to save your mental health mate.
Nothing will make me feel better other than banging of a grand in this challenge. Has to be done!!
@@eastyyy22 I really hope you make it, glgl
@@fjuno08 thanks mate!
haiiiiiiiiiii
This is why Im sure poker online is rigged. I have my c all in adj win 2.5x higher than my c won. On almost half milion hands. I started cash out, and it increase my daily win, of course my c all in adj is bigger now than my c won :)
Just look on yours huds, Im pretty sure that there is no regular player which have all in adj win higher than c won (if you not use cash out option ofc).
Can't say I agree with you! The game is just very sick and sometimes these coincidences see us finding patterns that don't exist.
the problem (other than runbad obviously) is youre too entrenched in playing "gto" against whales. 6:30 is a fold 100% of the time. youre burning money trying to play mathematically optimal poker against donkeys that are literally showing you their hands
I don't play GTO against whales at all, and 6:30 is a non GTO spot so it's a bit of an odd example! I've been having a lot of success sticking close to theory though.
Not even watchable anymore
why's that mate?
You’re a good player but the mental game is truly lacking. Need a chill pill or something. Poker owes nothing to no one. We all go through exactly the same pain, but we have to stay analytical and not emotional about the whole thing. Every time you’re like I’m gonna get stacked again, this only happens to me etc etc. Happens to everyone. We have to roll with it and make the best plays. That KK on 22Q9 is a clear fold
Rolling with it is a bit boring though, I'd rather just be honest with how it makes me feel. I don't agree with folding on 22Q.
@@eastyyy22 this is 10NL and you tilt like crazy. I know it’s the principle not the amounts but still.
The action on that specific hand is pretty awful for our hand. Tough spot for sure
Imagine how you’ll feel when you torch 3-4 stacks of $200 and you have to stay focused to stay in the game. Why do people like Fedor put such an emphasis on priming the mind before they start playing?
Makes for good tv though :)
@@themathemagicchannel another big goal of mine is to tilt the entire time and win $1000 anyway.
@@eastyyy22 I'm actually really sorry, I shouldn't come in here and say anything. I don't know you personally and it's great you're putting all this content out. I just feel for you as the micros is tough as nails to win at (mostly because of the rake), and I'm hoping you're still enjoying it. Hard game poker! Thanks for all the great vids mate
loved your videos but now you are crying anymore...
i dont think you understand variance - good bye , not watching anymore
cya