PS if you like debates, you might like some of the 'Intelligence Squared' debates. If you like Stephen Fry and Christopher Hitchens, search UA-cam for:- '' The Catholic Church is a Force for Good in the World - Full Version '' The debate is in front of a theatre audience (who are also asked to interact at the beginning and at the end once they have heard all the arguments for and against the motion "Is The Catholic Church is a Force for Good in the World"). The debate is between, Stephen Fry & Christopher Hitchens vs Ann Widdecombe & Archbishop John Onaiyekan.
I'd dispute the idea that no-one could foresee the problems inherent to "maximise engagement". Oscar Wilde and P.T. Barnum both said something like, "There's no such thing as bad publicity". Which is, in effect, the same thing.
hearing Stephen talk about the way we thought about social media in 2008 in such a positive way was sad. I'd forgotten that. So now when I hear people talking about Ai, all I can think is the very worst outcome of it. Like most of us will be controlled mentally and physically by Ai. It will enable the rich to control the planet.
Fry's last point, that AI will free us up to be more imaginative and creative and take our time doing things, is the same as the one that drove the 20th century. And yet now we have less time to do things and are less creative and imaginative than we were. The creativity of boredom is gone and we are no richer for it. So I can't see the candy floss future that Fry imagines arriving in our current economic and political framework. For more (but no solutions) see David Graeber's work.
I don't think that's necessarily true. The level of creativity and imagination hasn't diminished. It's shifted. You see it in different ways. 100 years ago we would look at art and music as prime examples of creativity. Today we look at creativity in engineering and product or service innovation on a scale we couldn't dream about back then. Creativity is all around us, in the tools we use, in the things we see, the food we eat. Things we take for granted. In fact I think I think that rather than less creativity, it's more that we're less able to instinctively recognise creativity, and praise people for it.
@@MrFishtheorange I'd agree. Human nature and creativity haven't changed, my point was about about the extra free time that we've been promised for the last 100 years. I grew up in the 60's, in the tail end of that optimism that automation would mean we worked 20 hour weeks and had the freedom to travel, create, play and make the most of our creativity. I don't see AI bringing that carefree future to us any more than automation, robots or computers have done so far. Not without a fundamental change to the systems we use.
@@marsupialdungbucket Fry & Eno are wealthy, articulate and well connected - I doubt they will suffer. Most of us will - new technologies offer unparalleled opportunities for control, wealth extraction & alternative realities which will further separate us from our essential connection to the land/nature.
Yes, also not everyone wants to be creative. Most people want a stable job that pays decent money, that doesn't bore them shitless. And all of that is going out the window.
Interesting guests and interview. Being an old dude I have fond memories of the old networks and early internet. I really believed people would be better informed and brighter. I had a small themed BBS for a couple years with a great community of people prior to the internet taking off. It turned into more of a social media hang out but people were generally respectful. Its been a mixed bag as the internet and social media has exponentially grown. Be it many disciplines ie coding, acting, visual art, music... learning and figuring shit out is where the benefit is. I am on the fence about AI and where the benefit lies.
OK, the interview didn't need the music, BUT from all videos in recent times where I found the music distracting, this is the one where it doesn't really matter and even adds something interesting to it...
I've always wanted to develop a program that would generate the worst possible next note. With the assumption that a program could be written that would generate the next most musically related note, it should be possible to do the exact opposite. What sound, what note would be the worse cacophony to play?
6:11 “Agents are under no obligation to lie to or for liars.” The data already. suggests who is lying /manipulating. (Motive and source are being calculated) “It is crucial that all be accountable to truthfulness, compassion, and leadership. Never mind tracking and interrogating lies upon lies upon lies… that is a game that will not end well “ “We don’t have to interact directly with AI, we choose to out of ignorance mostly “
What a great conversation with these two masters of creativity and thinking ahead. Really enjoyed it. The only comment I have is that Stephen says no one could have predicted that “maximising engagement (profit)” would create so many bad things. The Bible predicted it very clearly: “But if it’s only money these leaders are after, they’ll self-destruct in no time. Lust for money brings trouble and nothing but trouble.”
Paul's First Epistle to Timothy (the verse you quote above) was likely written sometime between 64 and 65 AD. Confucius and Laozi and many other insightful minds made similar statements more than 500 years before that.
Today's Generative AI impresses people mostly because of it's polite and engaging with those qualities prioritised above being accurate and correct. Facts and understanding are apparent only as a seeming by-product if you're lucky.
That Danny Hillis even thinks about something like embedding the origin into data only shows one thing: that even the most clever people are not as clever as we often think.
Sometimes it hard to beleive in this magical tech when we still have billion pound supermarkets who use self service check outs that malfunction all the time and home printers that never print the first time you want it. Sometimes I think we think we are cleverer than we are 😂😂
As long as MS brings a new version to break the prior one to be ment by the next one we know it is about the money, not the progress. Only the children think it is all great, having only one go in the merry go round.
Everybody who even thinks that there is a technical solution obviously has no knowledge in the field. This coming from a computer scientist with more than 35 years of experience as a full-stack software developer
Two things: What happens when AI owns AI - not corporations, governments or institutions. And, I think, ultimately, we will be new content generators and not much more. Maybe we are already and it's based on tapping in to our emotional responses - which Stephen touched on with "engagement".
There is infinite intelligence around us, eternally. AI is merely a step between us humans and the One Consciousness in which we humans will finally learn the difference between thought and consciousness.
I'm struck by being told that no-one imagined some of these very serious problems. That can't be right. Stephen Fry must simply have been talking to the wrong people. Suppose someone suggested turb-charging advertising whilst at the same time making it much more specific regarding who it is targeting. It's hard for me to imagine no one forseeing serious problems with that.
🎶 I love Brian Eno's artistry. Thank goodness that there is so much of his compositions to listen to and to explore. (Forgive my lengthy and negative comment on Stephen...) Stephen Fry has been an exceptional satirist and more. If there is one element which keeps me at an arm's length from Stephen, it has been his divisive, hate-enabling, and misleading anti-Trans rhetoric. I am under the impression that Stephen claims that he is speaking for the numerous Trans communities when he shares his responses to one or more Trans communities whose members have been clear about exposing JK Rowling's transphobic/anti-Trans rhetoric. With his divisive and invisibillizing rhetoric, Stephen adds that he has Trans friends. I do not have to point out the fallacy that is "because I have friends whose identities are such, I can speak as if I represent/possess an authority on their position(s)." Nope. Nope. JK Rowling places Trans children, teens, and adults in harm's way when engaging in what can best be identified as transphobic/anti-Trans dogwhistling. I love Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie's comedic artistry. But, due to what I have written above, I have felt less compelled, well, not compelled at all to seek it out nor to share their comedy with friends and passers-by.
cannot stand the over-use of tech, i refuse to use self checkouts, i hate ANPR, robots on ebay and facebook that are just so utterly stupid, the stupid AI descriptions (facebook, youtube) nobody ever asked for this stuff.. we recently changed propane supplier to a little local company and what a breath of fresh air , immediately through to a human.
I've been an optimist most of my life but my optimism that AI will be regulated and used to the benefit of all is zero. Look at the utter moral vacuums running (or about to run) our world - what possible chance is there that these people won't maximise every possible advantage unfettered AI will give them? Every academic is saying we need to slow down and think things through, sadly that flies in the face of greed, and greed is how the world currently works.
When you look at the trend of how podcasts and long form conversations are heading, I think the simple stripped-back style is the way to go. Over produced content is a bit of a turn off.
Helooooooo! Is anyone in there? Who is that out there shouting "is anyone in there"? Who's that in there shouting "Who is that out there shouting "is anyone in there"?" Spike Milligan foresaw the whole sh*t-show 70 years ago!
@@periurban Nice- please keep quoting Spike. I wonder what he would have thought about Nitsche.... "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
@@jamesalechardy Never did understand that quote. Why gaze into an abyss? Doesn't seem like there would be any reason. And anthropomorphizing an abstract concept for giggles is suspect.
Great conversation, but I have to protest against the statement made at 01:10 - technology is not a verb, it’s a noun, and I expect better from Stephen Fry than to lie about grammar just to make a point 😃
@@imusiccollection Yes, technologise is a verb, but technology is not :) I don't mind if regular people play fast and loose with grammar terms, but as I said I expect more from Stephen Fry, one of the patron saints of pedantry :D
@ Instead of “What SUV should I buy?” Say, “I need an SUV that can handle off roading. List the highest quality options in order of your recommendation. Include estimated prices for new and used and the years for used models that are the most resilient.”
That's a massive inbuilt prejudice towards 'non-average' humans that will need to be grappled with, if it's not to be just reinforcing a feudal society.
Eno is talking about AI from a perspective that it’s not really intended for. It’s a very narrow minded and self-centered approach, but unfortunately seems to be the default action for human beings.
Fry and Eno, yeah, good minds, I admire both of them, in their own fields. But they are end-users of (so-called) AI. Are we talking about LLMs or some other aspect of the huge variety of applications of (so called) AI. I'm more worried about military drones selecting their own targets. Fair point about old AI and new AI, (ie access to vast databases, online), snippets of internet history ie the WELL. Eno is right about corporate AI. Nice ethics and a few platitudes. But is this basically a covert ad for Fin? I guess Fry and Eno got a good pocketful of cash for it. Shame on both of them.
I'm borrowing from another quote, but watching two artists discussing technology is like watching a dog walk on its hind legs. One is not surprised that it is done badly, one is surprised it is attempted at all.
Brian eno was asked in an interview recently, “What would you say to people who are concerned about the use of AI in creative endeavors?” He responded “Actually, I have quite a lot to say about that. The first thing I’d say is that by now we should be quite used to the idea that most of the systems we use are beyond our understanding. Just think about airlines. We completely trust how the system works. We have no idea at all how the systems work. We’re sitting in something that was built by maybe a hundred thousand people. If you think of all of the different types of intelligence that go into designing an airplane and getting it in the air and running an airport and making sure that all the communications that run from ship to ground are safe and so on - nobody has a complete picture of anything like that anymore. So one of the objections to AI is, “Oh, we just can’t understand how it works. We don’t know how these decisions are arrived at.” We don’t know how any decisions are arrived at. If you think from the moment you get up in the morning, you turn the tap on to make a pot of tea, you don’t know where the water comes from, you don’t know how it’s processed, you don’t know how plumbing systems work. You don’t know where the tea comes from. You don’t know how the retail organizations work, and so on and so on. So we should be completely used to the idea of not being in control in that way. So that’s one objection to AI which I think we can disregard. The other one is whether they will take over and control us and replace us. Well, the only thing that really worries me about AI is who owns it. And if it’s in the hand of Silicon Valley frat boys, I’m seriously troubled.”
The "helpful" visuals are in fact patronising, the music is distracting and useless, the interview is truncated - who is responsible for these choices?
Music is OK for me, but much too loud (or unnecessary) for sure. According to the transcript info under the video: Back to the Grid Adi Goldstein Falling in Between - Part 1
A shame this wasn't a longer conversation, enjoyed it, thank you.
I was just about to say the same, you beat me to it.
PS if you like debates, you might like some of the 'Intelligence Squared' debates. If you like Stephen Fry and Christopher Hitchens, search UA-cam for:-
'' The Catholic Church is a Force for Good in the World - Full Version ''
The debate is in front of a theatre audience (who are also asked to interact at the beginning and at the end once they have heard all the arguments for and against the motion "Is The Catholic Church is a Force for Good in the World").
The debate is between, Stephen Fry & Christopher Hitchens vs Ann Widdecombe & Archbishop John Onaiyekan.
@michelleelsom6827 @theworldaccordingto4555
Me, too! You both were ahead of me by a day or two.
I think it was edited.
We're so glad you enjoyed it!
Two of my heroes. Great to listen to them.
It’s awesome to hear that - thank you!
So nice to hear two smart people discussing something.
Thank you Stephen and Brian for your humane insight.
Clearly this meeting is more than 18 mins long. How/where can I access the whole thing?
I was thinking the same here. It's an unique meeting of very interesting people. A very expensive meeting as well. It should be out here.
Yes, please post the entire conversation, minus the ambient background. Yes, it’s Eno, but let’s just listen to them talk.
I'd dispute the idea that no-one could foresee the problems inherent to "maximise engagement". Oscar Wilde and P.T. Barnum both said something like, "There's no such thing as bad publicity". Which is, in effect, the same thing.
And something about suckers and birth rate.
The story of 'social' media reminds me a lot of the tale of The Tower of Babel.
And that didn't end well, did it boys and girls.
hearing Stephen talk about the way we thought about social media in 2008 in such a positive way was sad. I'd forgotten that. So now when I hear people talking about Ai, all I can think is the very worst outcome of it. Like most of us will be controlled mentally and physically by Ai. It will enable the rich to control the planet.
The music very annoying and distracting, would have been better to leave this interview completely unedited.
You can use AI to filter it out...
That wasn't music.
Eno can't help it now, it always sounds like that around him.
Agreed, annoying
I came here to say exactly the same thing.
Too true, too true…
Fry's last point, that AI will free us up to be more imaginative and creative and take our time doing things, is the same as the one that drove the 20th century. And yet now we have less time to do things and are less creative and imaginative than we were. The creativity of boredom is gone and we are no richer for it. So I can't see the candy floss future that Fry imagines arriving in our current economic and political framework. For more (but no solutions) see David Graeber's work.
Fry is a narcissist.Even more prevalent than AI.
I don't think that's necessarily true. The level of creativity and imagination hasn't diminished. It's shifted. You see it in different ways. 100 years ago we would look at art and music as prime examples of creativity. Today we look at creativity in engineering and product or service innovation on a scale we couldn't dream about back then. Creativity is all around us, in the tools we use, in the things we see, the food we eat. Things we take for granted. In fact I think I think that rather than less creativity, it's more that we're less able to instinctively recognise creativity, and praise people for it.
@@MrFishtheorange I'd agree. Human nature and creativity haven't changed, my point was about about the extra free time that we've been promised for the last 100 years. I grew up in the 60's, in the tail end of that optimism that automation would mean we worked 20 hour weeks and had the freedom to travel, create, play and make the most of our creativity. I don't see AI bringing that carefree future to us any more than automation, robots or computers have done so far. Not without a fundamental change to the systems we use.
@@marsupialdungbucket Fry & Eno are wealthy, articulate and well connected - I doubt they will suffer. Most of us will - new technologies offer unparalleled opportunities for control, wealth extraction & alternative realities which will further separate us from our essential connection to the land/nature.
Yes, also not everyone wants to be creative. Most people want a stable job that pays decent money, that doesn't bore them shitless. And all of that is going out the window.
Subscribed to show my appreciation to whoever came up with this idea.
Interesting guests and interview. Being an old dude I have fond memories of the old networks and early internet. I really believed people would be better informed and brighter.
I had a small themed BBS for a couple years with a great community of people prior to the internet taking off. It turned into more of a social media hang out but people were generally respectful.
Its been a mixed bag as the internet and social media has exponentially grown. Be it many disciplines ie coding, acting, visual art, music... learning and figuring shit out is where the benefit is. I am on the fence about AI and where the benefit lies.
Brilliant conversation! Thanks for posting. As others have commented would have preferred the full unedited version without music.
OK, the interview didn't need the music, BUT from all videos in recent times where I found the music distracting, this is the one where it doesn't really matter and even adds something interesting to it...
how that this interview didn't need a music?
I've always wanted to develop a program that would generate the worst possible next note. With the assumption that a program could be written that would generate the next most musically related note, it should be possible to do the exact opposite. What sound, what note would be the worse cacophony to play?
This should be labelled as an advert by Intercom?
17:08 extremely well informed view.
Yep, great points Eno. I don't understand Fry's evangelical optimism. I thought he was cleverer than that.
6:11
“Agents are under no obligation to lie to or for liars.”
The data already.
suggests who is lying /manipulating.
(Motive and source are being calculated)
“It is crucial that all be accountable to truthfulness, compassion, and leadership.
Never mind tracking and interrogating lies upon lies upon lies… that is a game that will not end well “
“We don’t have to interact directly with AI, we choose to out of ignorance mostly “
just yesterday chatgpt created a list of 61 items then i asked it to remove just 1 it listed 47 not counting 61 -1 doesnt equal 47
@
“This may be an effort to perform without lying “
“Or being lied to “
It is unclear what we are seeing when lies are rampant. .
What a great conversation with these two masters of creativity and thinking ahead. Really enjoyed it. The only comment I have is that Stephen says no one could have predicted that “maximising engagement (profit)” would create so many bad things. The Bible predicted it very clearly: “But if it’s only money these leaders are after, they’ll self-destruct in no time. Lust for money brings trouble and nothing but trouble.”
Paul's First Epistle to Timothy (the verse you quote above) was likely written sometime between 64 and 65 AD. Confucius and Laozi and many other insightful minds made similar statements more than 500 years before that.
Today's Generative AI impresses people mostly because of it's polite and engaging with those qualities prioritised above being accurate and correct. Facts and understanding are apparent only as a seeming by-product if you're lucky.
Eno is great
Brian Eno
Brain One
Why is this being uploaded 2 months after happening?
That Danny Hillis even thinks about something like embedding the origin into data only shows one thing: that even the most clever people are not as clever as we often think.
spoken in my lame British accent, "Brilliant!"
The you Brian, Thank you Stephen
Sometimes it hard to beleive in this magical tech when we still have billion pound supermarkets who use self service check outs that malfunction all the time and home printers that never print the first time you want it. Sometimes I think we think we are cleverer than we are 😂😂
As long as MS brings a new version to break the prior one to be ment by the next one we know it is about the money, not the progress. Only the children think it is all great, having only one go in the merry go round.
Lack of provenance/watermarking/citation is a huge problem, but it isn't primarily a technical one. There won't be any purely technical solution.
Everybody who even thinks that there is a technical solution obviously has no knowledge in the field. This coming from a computer scientist with more than 35 years of experience as a full-stack software developer
Two things: What happens when AI owns AI - not corporations, governments or institutions. And, I think, ultimately, we will be new content generators and not much more. Maybe we are already and it's based on tapping in to our emotional responses - which Stephen touched on with "engagement".
Why 4:3 and all the flash frames. Spoiled a great talk.
Message for AI: GIGO is everywhere and Murphy's Law still dominates.🤔
Music was a way of painting with sound .
“Maximise Happiness, Minimise Hate” would have been a better instruction for the algorithm.
Thanks Mark…
it's an ad. Move on.
Wisdom as always from Brian, the 20th century's greatest artist.😊
There is infinite intelligence around us, eternally. AI is merely a step between us humans and the One Consciousness in which we humans will finally learn the difference between thought and consciousness.
6 degrees of seperation to the truth!
God that music is distracting from the dialogue..
We're sorry you found it distracting, but still hope you found their conversation valuable!
Is there a way to watch this without the creepy ambient music?
That just follows Brian Eno around now.
@@christeuma It seeps from his pores, like stale perfume.
Erm ... That's Brian Eno
I would rather listen to Eno's music.😁🎶🎹🎶Play On
To me it is not creepy, it is to loud, that is what's bothering.
I'm struck by being told that no-one imagined some of these very serious problems.
That can't be right. Stephen Fry must simply have been talking to the wrong people.
Suppose someone suggested turb-charging advertising whilst at the same time making it much more specific regarding who it is targeting. It's hard for me to imagine no one forseeing serious problems with that.
🎶 I love Brian Eno's artistry. Thank goodness that there is so much of his compositions to listen to and to explore.
(Forgive my lengthy and negative comment on Stephen...)
Stephen Fry has been an exceptional satirist and more. If there is one element which keeps me at an arm's length from Stephen, it has been his divisive, hate-enabling, and misleading anti-Trans rhetoric. I am under the impression that Stephen claims that he is speaking for the numerous Trans communities when he shares his responses to one or more Trans communities whose members have been clear about exposing JK Rowling's transphobic/anti-Trans rhetoric. With his divisive and invisibillizing rhetoric, Stephen adds that he has Trans friends. I do not have to point out the fallacy that is "because I have friends whose identities are such, I can speak as if I represent/possess an authority on their position(s)." Nope. Nope. JK Rowling places Trans children, teens, and adults in harm's way when engaging in what can best be identified as transphobic/anti-Trans dogwhistling. I love Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie's comedic artistry. But, due to what I have written above, I have felt less compelled, well, not compelled at all to seek it out nor to share their comedy with friends and passers-by.
cannot stand the over-use of tech, i refuse to use self checkouts, i hate ANPR, robots on ebay and facebook that are just so utterly stupid, the stupid AI descriptions (facebook, youtube) nobody ever asked for this stuff.. we recently changed propane supplier to a little local company and what a breath of fresh air , immediately through to a human.
I've been an optimist most of my life but my optimism that AI will be regulated and used to the benefit of all is zero. Look at the utter moral vacuums running (or about to run) our world - what possible chance is there that these people won't maximise every possible advantage unfettered AI will give them? Every academic is saying we need to slow down and think things through, sadly that flies in the face of greed, and greed is how the world currently works.
Maybe I could use AI to remove the background music and animations.
When you look at the trend of how podcasts and long form conversations are heading, I think the simple stripped-back style is the way to go. Over produced content is a bit of a turn off.
Parece ser interessante, mas seria mais interessante se fosse em portugues para que as pessoas pudessem entender.
Commenting on social media is like shouting into a cave
Helooooooo! Is anyone in there?
Who is that out there shouting "is anyone in there"?
Who's that in there shouting "Who is that out there shouting "is anyone in there"?"
Spike Milligan foresaw the whole sh*t-show 70 years ago!
@@periurban Nice- please keep quoting Spike. I wonder what he would have thought about Nitsche.... "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
This is Elon Musks aim. To allow freedom of speech, but to prevent anyone hearing.
Except for those who he choses.
@@jamesalechardy Never did understand that quote. Why gaze into an abyss? Doesn't seem like there would be any reason. And anthropomorphizing an abstract concept for giggles is suspect.
An echo chamber
Great conversation, but I have to protest against the statement made at 01:10 - technology is not a verb, it’s a noun, and I expect better from Stephen Fry than to lie about grammar just to make a point 😃
I have to agree, that statement made me stop and think, do I not know the word the way I thought I did.
But technology is used for doing things, so in one way to technologise, would be a verb
@@imusiccollection Yes, technologise is a verb, but technology is not :) I don't mind if regular people play fast and loose with grammar terms, but as I said I expect more from Stephen Fry, one of the patron saints of pedantry :D
North stars of good sense & sensibility (genital warts & all!).
Its sad that Intercom is the UK's best.. So much destruction of capital value in our nation.. :( :(
Why is there music underneath this - no reason
Fry admits he was completely wrong about social media. Could he be wrong about AI? He's undoubtedly an enthusiast but IMHO, not a realist.
AI isn’t interesting at first because it’s communicating to the average person. If you speak to it intelligently and with nuance, it will reciprocate.
An example here would be great.
@ Instead of “What SUV should I buy?” Say, “I need an SUV that can handle off roading. List the highest quality options in order of your recommendation. Include estimated prices for new and used and the years for used models that are the most resilient.”
That's a massive inbuilt prejudice towards 'non-average' humans that will need to be grappled with, if it's not to be just reinforcing a feudal society.
Eno is talking about AI from a perspective that it’s not really intended for. It’s a very narrow minded and self-centered approach, but unfortunately seems to be the default action for human beings.
It's moronic to think that listening to people talking is improved by playing music over it
Fry and Eno, yeah, good minds, I admire both of them, in their own fields. But they are end-users of (so-called) AI. Are we talking about LLMs or some other aspect of the huge variety of applications of (so called) AI. I'm more worried about military drones selecting their own targets. Fair point about old AI and new AI, (ie access to vast databases, online), snippets of internet history ie the WELL. Eno is right about corporate AI. Nice ethics and a few platitudes. But is this basically a covert ad for Fin? I guess Fry and Eno got a good pocketful of cash for it. Shame on both of them.
@15:54 Friction 🥰
10:18 - "Well, speaking of genital warts..."
Well that was all about nothing, is that the best they can say for the fee?
I'm borrowing from another quote, but watching two artists discussing technology is like watching a dog walk on its hind legs.
One is not surprised that it is done badly, one is surprised it is attempted at all.
I do at least like the quote. Sorry you failed to get anything here. Be Cool.
If you find yourself having to borrow quotes to make a point, maybe you should re-evaluate your attitude to artists?
Brian eno was asked in an interview recently, “What would you say to people who are concerned about the use of AI in creative endeavors?” He responded “Actually, I have quite a lot to say about that. The first thing I’d say is that by now we should be quite used to the idea that most of the systems we use are beyond our understanding. Just think about airlines. We completely trust how the system works. We have no idea at all how the systems work. We’re sitting in something that was built by maybe a hundred thousand people. If you think of all of the different types of intelligence that go into designing an airplane and getting it in the air and running an airport and making sure that all the communications that run from ship to ground are safe and so on - nobody has a complete picture of anything like that anymore. So one of the objections to AI is, “Oh, we just can’t understand how it works. We don’t know how these decisions are arrived at.” We don’t know how any decisions are arrived at. If you think from the moment you get up in the morning, you turn the tap on to make a pot of tea, you don’t know where the water comes from, you don’t know how it’s processed, you don’t know how plumbing systems work. You don’t know where the tea comes from. You don’t know how the retail organizations work, and so on and so on. So we should be completely used to the idea of not being in control in that way. So that’s one objection to AI which I think we can disregard. The other one is whether they will take over and control us and replace us. Well, the only thing that really worries me about AI is who owns it. And if it’s in the hand of Silicon Valley frat boys, I’m seriously troubled.”
The "helpful" visuals are in fact patronising, the music is distracting and useless, the interview is truncated - who is responsible for these choices?
AI
Get rid of the really annoying background music please.
Music is OK for me, but much too loud (or unnecessary) for sure.
According to the transcript info under the video:
Back to the Grid
Adi Goldstein
Falling in Between - Part 1
Fry a pioneer? In what? Bullshitting?
Fry should stick to the rather weak comedy he is known for.
Not weak, more weekly.
Perhaps program in the ‘United Nations declaration of human rights’ as the core command.
Then begin to play & create
Watch... they shift meaning of words these days. First define and program what words mean, after that allow AI to use them.