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Christian Claims to Have Scientific Proof of God's Existence
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Ray Comfort's literal argument: I don't understand anything, therefore God exists, who I also don't understand.
Absolutely. Beautiful.
Exactly, the argument from ignorance fallacy. I can't understand therefore God.
Friendshipismagic and your definition of his beautiful retardation is so magnificently gorgeous and seamlessly perfect that it's astounding. I must congratulate your valiant effort in the shaming of a shit bag.
Amazin
Amen
God: open the door, I want to save you
Person: save me from what? lol
God: from what I'm gonna do if you don't open the door
Good one!!!
and on your deathbed you will ASK FOR GOD! MARK MY WORDS
+I.C. P your wife asked for God a bunch of times the last time I saw her! she can scratch and scream huh! whoot whoot!
Michael Vialpando Jokes on you!!! my most desired dream is eutanasia!!
Michael Vialpando and fuck your imaginary friend too!!
Christianity-the belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creations from God.
billsf94131 GOD IS AN AWSOME GOD!!!
Yes, god is awesome. Way to go THOR!!!!!
billsf94131 ACCORDING TO THE ORIGINAL CONTEXT OD THE BIBLE, GOD SAVED US THROUGH JESUS CHRIST FROM THE WATCHERS OR DIVINE BEINGS THAT REBEL AGAINST GOD BECAUSE THEY CAN'T ACCEPT MAN'S STATUS THAT GOD GAVE TO US.
You have your dads dna that means your equal with him. Jesus Christ has the dna of God which makes him one with him.
billsf94131 Q
His name sounds like a type of laundry detergent.
listen God exists because I got... beans, greens, potatoes, tomatoes, lamb, yams, hogs, chicken, turkey.. u name it
i read that in her voice lol
I'm just a guy browsing through da UA-cams lol that's the only way to do it
Kylo Ben go home. Your parents miss you.
..spinach, lettuce, salmon, legumes, beer, candy corn, peanuts, asparagus...
Ray's argument: I can't make sense of stuff, therefore god.
if god created everything.........who created god.......?
ask an lds........he was born on kolob
I'd ask Ray if his books ever self-replicate.
"If books had sex and produced little baby books, and after every few generations, mutations popped up and there were a selection mechanism that prevented the less booklike mutations from being passed on to the next generation, then I would find it entirely plausible that those books were not made by any intelligent entity."
-TMM, 2016
Classic argument from ignorance. "I don't understand how DNA could make itself, therefore God must have done it."
Dna making it's self is beyond comprehension, must be something in the sky then
No better than I don't understand how DNA came to be, therefore it made itself and came from nothing.
@@memres217 No one believes that. That's just something fundamentalists like to say.
Didn't realize this guy was still around or significant.
Did he sound significant in this video?
This is how he earns his living, misrepresenting people and making dishonest videos. Every now and again he pops up to get some publicity for his money making schemes
Cheep Cheeps it realy makes you think hey? or does it?
Around? Yes. Significant? Hardly.
Watch out, Ray will DMCA this video if you criticize him. His films suck, circular logic, asking unanswerable questions and then using the respondents pauses to imply ignorance.
4:30 - "It's like comparing Apples with Elephants!". Apples and Elephants are distantly related in the giant web of life, just like any other two living things. Shared DNA. If a creator was creating two distinct organisms via magic, there would be no need for shared DNA. Why, then, do we find shared DNA between literally everything alive? Was he just lazy? Did we get the lazy god?
If you claim the airplane had a creator, (of which we have many examples of people assembling airplanes) you should be able to back that up fairly easily, and is of little consequence (we already have plenty of functioning aircraft), unless you care to demonstrate otherwise.
If you claim every atom in the known universe was "created" (generated and tweaked to it's specific properties, then put together in it's "perfect" place), you need to be able to back that up, because we currently have zero examples of that happening. If you succeed in providing that evidence, we will have one example. Complexity doesn't enter the equation, except to make your side of the argument harder to prove for yourself, you dunce.
What you said.
you can't know god's logic (that's the catch all retort)
sgtsnakeeyes11
How do you know for sure? (that's the catch all retort to your retort)
FancyKerbloops know what?
sgtsnakeeyes11
The retort to your retort.
Isn't this the " atheist banana " dude?
Mike White It is.
Yes
That's right.
Same person
That's him!
Hi David - I tackle some of William Paley's Watchmaker philosophy in my book 'Of Woodbridge and Hedgely' which is a literary examination of science denial set in 1820, where I superimpose the propaganda tactics used to deny global warming onto this earlier time period, focusing on evolution, geology, and agricultural science - mostly settled science in today's eyes - as my subjects, so that the audience can really see the mechanics of denial more clearly; sort of a 'historical lens'. Those interested can go to Amazon and get the ebook for ninety nine cents.
Why are people attracted to "darkness" if god made them after his own image?
This has an explanation, but I don't think this is a question, it's more of a statement. If I'm wrong and you truly wish to know, I'd be happy to explain.
His argument is:
I dunno.
Therefore: God.
Christian:"You can't create something from nothing!"
Me:"Which was exactly what God did..."
David, please don't give delusional people like this a platform to spread their illogical thoughts.
Disagree, I always want to know how these people think so I can destroy their ideas. Freedom of speech!
Dustan Crouch it's his way to showing comedy on his channel. he does this so we can laugh at the dumb people's stupidity.
Nah, it's funny. This guy thinks the universe is 6,000 years old!
Don't be afraid of being exposed to ideas you disagree with. That would make you a conservative.
David has been giving his illogical thoughts for years. He can't really sink any lower at this point.
Ray Comfort s a joke even in the Christian apologist community.
You hate Christ so you hate the messenger. I see it day after day. People are snide, haughty and self lovers. Repent and turn to Christ, you will be without excuse. That's a guarantee
Having sex with people you are not married to is not a moral issue. It's a religious issue.
SO much facepalming when Ray talks
I fully Believe that he made up this Adam person. I have watched Ray comfort debate Matt Delahunte and various others on multiple occasions and the fact that this argument makes no sense has been explained him over and over again but he just refuses to get it even though he must understand it by now.
The Atheist Delusion.... original.
Ray, sorry to break it to you, but John Milton was a fiction author.
Why was he so triggered when David asked who he vote for?
it makes me laugh when people use science to explain god, desperate
"I'm not out to judge Donald Chump- Trump." One hell of a Freudian slip lol.
Here's the answer to his watchmaker aguement. Evolution.
Can my boy Sam Harris have a Crack at this guy?
Hell, Yeah!!
Victor Thomas
Why?
Not necessary, he destroyed himself in the first five minutes
Such a great comedian and he doesn't even know he is one. You can't beat that.
Named Adam of all names, because don't forget, at the very moment of the creation of man in the garden of Eden, English was in full swing.
I think I know how that name came about.
Lucifer: "What is it?"
God: "Well, obviously it's A...." *looks at the lanky, malformed, defenseless homo-sapien stumbling around with flat, rediculous feet and unprotected dangly bits.* "...DAM!"
I was amused by David's sarcasm at 5:45 when Ray asked him if he thought that a book made itself.
Hahaha... thx for the laugh! That guy is hilarious
As a basic principle, the solution to a proposed problem (i.e. how does complex life exist) should not suffer from the same problem as the problem the solution is being offered to solve (i.e. how does God exist). God does not solve the problem of existence, but merely compounds the problem. Its the ultimate form of deflection, when being confronted with the problem of how complex things exist, to posit that God is an "explanation." He isn't. Asserting a God just pushes the question back one step further. God, by most definitions of him, is complex and functional, and therefore requires an explanation as much as the universe does and life in it. To simply say God just is or we don't know isn't good enough. It is a copout. If it satisfactory enough for theists to be content with the existence of God, without explanation, then if they were being intellectually honest (ha! ha!), they should see it as satisfactory for atheists to be content with life existing without a comprehensive explanation. As David Brooks has stated: "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy."
Ray, why does 'god' keep 'creating' bad designs like the appendix or the human eye over and over? Hmm...
The failure of 'god' IS apparently eternal.
Has a fallen creation ever come to your mind?!
Joshua B so children get bone cancer because a man picked a apple form a tree encouraged by the talking snake. This doesn't begin to be sane.
samiamrg7 - If god is such a good designer, then why has the eye a blind spot? Why do people get cataract? Why are 1 in 12 men color blind? (And why only 1 in 200 women!?) Why do we get retinal detachment and glaucoma?
Steven Van Hulle I’m not a creationist, I’m just saying that our eyes are marvels of evolution, not like the Appendix which appears to be vestigial.
samiamrg7 said: "I’m not a creationist".
Yeah, I got that when I read other comments from you.
Most of the human body is simply amazing when you look at it. That's exactly the reason why creatards refuse to accept that it evolved that way. If you think the earth is 6000 years old it's hard to grab what "billions of generations" means. 'cause that's what was needed to get a (granted) pretty good eye.
Creatards also don't get that evolution doesn't have a goal, like a perfect species (whatever that may mean). Which explains the flaws in the eye's "design".
And don't get me even started about the recurrent laryngeal nerve! :-)
Cheers!
Debating a Christian as an Atheist is like beating up a 2 year old.
Oh, Ray. Maybe a little less shirt next time.
Well, without the 'r'.
I loathe this conman. I practice my faith every day, and this predator is the vilest form of false proselytizer. We should model our belief in a morale framework by our actions. Threatening people who don't subscribe to our faith or any faith is wrong.
They make it up... Obviously
"Who made God?" is a pointless question to a Theist that doesn't actually make sense
in the same way that
"What's the meaning of life?" is a pointless question to an Atheist that doesn't actually make sense.
"Because it's in the Bible." is a pointless statement to an Atheist because they don't believe the Bible is the end-all
in the same way that
"Because it's logical." is a pointless statement to Theists because they don't believe logic to be the end-all
It's a wash. You can't prove or disprove it. Pick the side of the fence that feels better and stop trying to make other people come to your side if they aren't hurting anyone.
Right, except what happens when the people like Ray want their religion taught as fact in schools? Or what happens when people in government use their religion as justification for the decisions they make?
I view the Bible the same way as Aesop's Fables - a set of little moralising tales. I don't believe in heaven or hell or Jesus. Maybe I do believe at the back of my mind, that there is a creator. But that creator is as likely to be a playful alien as a benign omnipotent God. I do believe in Christmas though.
His quoting of Penn Gillette just shows that Penn understands how delusional the religious are.
I'd love to see him debate Richard Carrier, he would shred him and hang him out to dry!
This man doesn't talk in circles. Before he finishes talking around the first circle he takes a detour onto another circular path. This man talks in figure eights.
Evangelicals do what they do because it feels good for them, gives them a god buzz, its an addiction for them.
No Christian should have to proof God! Our soul existence should be enough!
Don't forget our spelling!
So god comes from nothing?....lol
😂
the guy just has a point of view that gives him authority over others and is trying to find a market to line his pocket. His understanding of science is so simplistic and is framed within his and limited to his belief system. Beliefs at there core is the end of exploring and learning about the world around when you become authority and gate keeper over others. Start living by stop believing.
God is not something you can prove "scientifically". You can have a philosophical debate about it (and there's good arguments on both sides there) but hoping to come up with some sort of 'hard proof' is a fool's errand.
Edit: just for clarification, when I say 'God' I'm not talking about religion (which is a man-made concept) but the philosophical idea of some sort of higher being, whatever form it takes
why do we have to come from anything. why does it upset ppl to think we are just something that happened randomly in the universe. I think ppl require a creator to simplify the world around us.
Tookeen We're "programmed" to assume agency. In our early stages we assumed agency in many things. The tree grows because it "wants" to reach the sky. The tides goes in and out because the tide "wants" to embrace the land etc. We find it very hard to believe that things can happen for no reason or just due to natural laws. It's actually adaptive, because assuming agency means you're more cautious/suspicious of things. Is that a shadow or a predator? Religion is a by product of such things.
2:30 Never have I heard DNA being called a book
"A very comprehensive book, with full-color pictures." Says it all, doesn't it?
I feel stupider for having watched a piece of this.
Is that possible for you?
Sadly, ive never heard such a polite, kind atheist towards other Christians. Kudos to this guy!
♬ oh oh oh♫ Banana Man♪
I am a Christian who is gay, and I must say I appreciate this discussion. Thank you for having a conversation that is respectful and intelligent. 😀
Its Mr Banana
Great points David. Seemed like Ray was on the defensive the whole time and sort of tried to make sense of something that just doesn't exist.. and failed. Thank you David Pakman & team.
Ray is so arrogant. Saying, "you know God exists" is obnoxious. No one "knows" God exists. You either believe some ancient, delusional writings from thousands of years ago or you don't. There's no hard evidence-just stories.
False equivalence, Argument by design, false analogy,god of the gaps, special pleading, petitio principii fallacy, strawman that's the fallacies I spotted how many did you spot?
Lmao.. is this guy for real?
He is. But that story that he has a brain is fiction.
The argument from banana is ridiculous enough even if you don't realize that before selective breeding the banana was smaller and filled with large, hard seeds.
Excellent! I really missed your interviews/debates. I love how you always attack and stopped the people right in the middle of their lies. Also, congratulations, over 25,000 new subscribers in the last 3 months, keep it up I want to see the 500k mark in there!
Two things can have one thing in common without having anything else in common. Saying “the universe and a watch are complex, and a watch has a designer, so that means the universe has a designer too” is equivalent to saying “the universe and a watch are complex, and watches were made in the 16th century, so that means the universe was made in the 16th century too.”
It's good of you to take him on the show, especially considering how little sense he made.
I love how he coincidentally said he couldn't understand GPS, one of the major common technological items that fundamentally relies on the theory of relativity (which teaches us a lot about how we perceive time), and then goes on to say he doesn't understand time and how god could be beyond time, ultimately showing he hasn't bothered to put much research into his position.
He crumbled under the "Who made God question". I use that one everytime i debate one of these intelligent designer theorists. They always spout the same lazy explanation that god is external and infinitely complex
As a biochemist, listening to these two try to discuss the intricacies of DNA is aggravating. Not to blame them, DNA and it’s biochemical properties is very complex and requires lots of dedication to develop a holistic understanding of. But non-enzymatic synthesis of nucleic acids is an active area of research, and it’s very readily verifiable that they can be produced this way. To say “it made itself” is semantic nonsense; chemicals and biomolecules are not sentient beings. They obey laws of physics and principles of chemistry. We know for example that transition metals and minerals of certain oxidation states can catalyze the synthesis of fatty acids from simple gases, and when they reach critical micellar concentration, they form a primitive biological compartment.
While it’s all still a hypothesis, we’re developing a solid explanation as to how the most primitive biomolecules could be synthesized non-enzymatically, and how they could have come together to create the first compartmentalized organism (since nucleus acid strands can zip and unzip, they can basically replicate themselves if the concentration of complementary bases is high enough, similar to what happens in a cell or in PCR, just without enzymes, so they would technically be the first self-replicating entities).
I find it interesting when people point out a house doesn't build itself or in this case a book didn't make itself and then say that because DNA is more complex it had to be made by someone else. They totally disregard the processes in nature which are predisposed to make certain forms and shapes. Those shapes are vastly different to houses or books but are much closer to the helix shape of DNA. If you look up the book 'Sensitive Chaos' by Theodore Schwenk (admittedly not the best read but the images are instructive and enlightening) and look at his images of flow making form you can see that there may be more to the formation of DNA than a random pile of materials coming together in a meaningful way. He was able to achieve forms which resemble things like a knee joint and even a cranium or walnut in cross section just by moving flowing fluids of different temperatures against each other.
Here's an example - not the best of them, can't find better online.
1.bp.blogspot.com/_7bRgdS4iJwg/S6ThCGT-57I/AAAAAAAAACA/Yn5obgwKw5Q/s320/schwenk.jpg
Great segment. Ray has recently shown up in my YT feed lately in debate with Matt Dillahunty in a couple of videos and also in some street preaching. His street preaching usually has people that he's somewhat caught off guard and go round for round with him. I am pleased with the style David took here whether it was for the sake of a time crunch in the segment or not you have to get straight to the point with people like Ray that are of the creationist mindset. It's very easy to watch them try and squirm their way out of the same arguments they used to try and prove why there is validity in their simple minded insertion of a god because they refuse to go and find the answers to things they don't understand. Or worse they just refuse to...well because they have "the book". Another creationist that is a bit well known is Ken Ham. Like Ray he speaks in circles but Ken knows a bit more of the science behind certain things than Ray, seemingly, or perhaps it's just a different approach, so he has some of the jargon that you'll research when done to confirm it's validity but his argument still comes to the same conclusion, they insert a god into what they can't and in many cases refuse to understand because of their presupposition with "their book". Check out the Bill Nye debate with Ken Ham from a couple years back, it's a good one.
And lastly with these type of people it's not so much that you debate with the intention of changing their minds, at least I don't think that is the approach in most cases because they are so far gone and usually they do this for profit so their livelihood is at stake. The point of it is for their audience, to perhaps hear a different perspective which may make them think. That is, if they haven't gotten too far down the rabbit hole.
God is from everlasting to everlasting.He exists without change forever.Having no beginning or end.Time is a creation.God is infinite and is above and greater than time.God did not create himself .He simply is and his existence is eternal.
Religion is the greatest lie ever told.
Please have a "Flat-Earther", "Hollow-Earther", or maybe someone who believes they are a reincarnated reptilian alien from Atlantis, on your program.
As simple as Ray Comfort's arguments are, I don't think David's challenge defeats them. What he's essentially saying is that eternal things, however complex, don't need and can't have a designer so that's what sets god apart from the other complex things they were talking about such as a watch, DNA, book etc.
I give the guy some credit. He always hangs in there and tries his best to answer every question. He is definitely sincere in his beliefs. Even if they are bat shit crazy lol.
His arguments are very compelling. To people who don't understand science.
Thanks David and Ray. Very interesting conversation.
It was an interesting projection ray made about him self when talking about how Athiests "denies the truth" because they don't want to go to hell. All the while he denies the fact that there are questions he simply cannot answer and asserts god. Seems like he's using religion as his denial of the truth.
Cool to see a polite exchange from the opposite isles
The creator argument falls apart for many reasons. My favorite is that they think god is the watch maker that created everything. So everything complex, simple, and everything in between is a creation, to Ray. That means everything we live in a world of watches, surrounded by watches, living as watches.
Also, I met Ray and one of his preachers at Comic Con this year. I debated and gave consent to use the footage. Even asked to not edit it to make me look bad, but I doubt that will happen. His preacher talked to and would change the subject when I had him cornered. I told him the bible can't be the perfect word of god because it has contradictions and errors. He asked for an example, so I said Adam and Eve had some sons, then they went to a town and married...where did these other people come from? He told me that Adam and Eve before having their sons mentioned in the bible, had enough children to populate a town who their sons then married and that incest was ok at first because Adam and Eve were genetically perfect, but became bad later when their later decedents were less genetically pure. I said, "Oh good, you do believe in genetics." Ray gave him a look, and he changed the argument to morality.
It's funny how creationists don't realize that the watchmaker argument, about the complexity of the human body, is actually an argument AGAINST creationism.
Ed and William are inventors having a chat over a coffee.
Ed: You know, this gizmo is really poorly designed. Look at it. It's just not reliable.
William: True, it's too complex. The best designs have the fewest parts.
Ed: That's what I mean. Fewer parts increase reliability.
William: Also because the dingus is easier to model, mathematically.
Ed: And physically!
William: Oh, that reminds me! I just invented something new. Look at this animation.
Ed: Cool! What is it?
William: Well... I'm calling it a "human", but I may change the name when it goes commercial. I don't think anybody would ever buy something called "human".
Ed (still watching video): Looks rather flexible. Lots of parts, uh?
William (reluctantly): Yeah...
Ed: Well?
William: 37 trillion.
Ed: ...
William: ...
(Yes, it is a fake story: inventors drink beer, not coffee.)
I don't think that anyone should argue about things they no idea of. Do you even know or have you ever had the experience of coming to know the fire of the Holy Spirit in your life when you receive Jesus as your Lord and savior? Have you ever known the serenity of God's love in your life? I dare anyone to know this side of God for them in their lives. It doesn't cost you anything and all you have to do is get to know who God is for you in your life. Forget who made who and what came first. You only need to know who He is for you in your life. I am a witness to how important he is to me and you should also. There is nothing like the gift He has given us. Nothing in this world can compare.
I’m impressed David was able to get a coherent 2 way conversation with Ray... he’s always saying the same thing in every other debate/conversation
Every time Ray debates actual scientists he gets absolutely destroyed. This is why he just debates random people on the street now.
There are two agencies that exist. 'Personal or Mechanistic'. Our courts affirm this by deeming death for example either intentional homicide, manslaughter or incidental. This is the reason theist believe in God. While we know little about the non-physical nature of the mind, we know we exist. We know we have a dual nature like a computer program. The physical aspect that manifests itself in the physical medium of our bodies and the non physical part which can only be revealed if we choose to reveal it. Many a scholar has tried to dismiss this duality of nature but our best and brightest put it like this: To understand the the photon and electron we must accept the they act like a wave and a particle. A way is a nonphysical entity and is a building block like the particle. Particles become atoms then compounds and so forth while waves become harmonics and so forth. But there is one important difference between the physical and non physical realm. The non physical realm exist outside of time in term of the how entities there relate to one another. Only the expression of the non-physical entity or its relationship to another takes time. Hence God the ultimate non physical entity was/is/will always be eternal. He loves 'you' with an unending love and made you eternal too.
Ray Comfort in the past has said that quote mining isn't a logical fallacy, it's just like real mining where you search for what you want.
I quote user TMM:
"If books had sex and produced little baby books, and after every few generations, mutations popped up and there were a selection mechanism that prevented the less booklike mutations from being passed on to the next generation, then I would find it entirely plausible that those books were not made by any intelligent entity."
The way you know things are created is not by their complexity (if anything, simplicity is more a hallmark of design than complexity), but by contrasting them with non-created things.
I'm glad Ray and David can have a decent talk from these opposing positions.
he should run for president on 2020
LOL as a Physicist(still working on that Bachelor) I had to laugh so hard when he said the movement of celestial bodies is strange ;))
It´s one of the things we can explain and forecast with extreme precission.
He leads with the organization argument, focusing on DNA. He claims that DNA arrives on the scene fully formed. There is plenty of science on the subject of how DNA came to be as an adaption, but the initial existence of DNA is still unknown. It is observed that the dual nature of DNA (which is what the D in DNA is all about), is necessary for persistence of the DNA during cell division. In terms of statistics, the science community does acknowledge that initial creation of DNA is statistically very low, and punts with the hypothesis on Panspermia, which proposes that DNA is spread through the universe via extremophiles riding on moving celestial bodies. So that, one can say that perhaps DNA wasn't created here, and was initially created somewhere else before earth formed. Basing a belief in God on things not yet known is common and has built in obsolescence. I would argue that a better approach to teach about God is to focus on developing a sensitivity to something beyond the self, call it whatever you will. That is how I went from atheist to Deist, because God revealed himself to me. Perhaps it is a delusion. I do not practice any religion at the moment. IMO, no person has the right to say they received instruction from God that someone else is required to do. There is no book, no commandments...
*Religious Person:* _”You think all this came from nothing! It came from God obviously!”_
*Atheist:* _”Well then where did God come from?”_
*Religious Person:* _”STOP! JUST STOP!”_
David Pakman
You say you don't consider yourself as an atheist but then follow up with basically defining yourself as an agnostic atheist. No matter if you think about atheism or not, you still are an atheist.
Great show by the way!!!!.... As always.
hey these guys are actually good because they find questions we can't answer motivating us to find the answer, like how Keynesianism changed after Milton Friedman called out their flaws and changed to NeoKeynesianism
the throwing himself in the way of the truck idea, like, this guy can't see the truck either but he believes it's there
Thank you, Ray Comfort. You pushed me right over into being an atheist.
"LOL I did it to showz u how dummy it is."
I tried to watch the movie.....3 minutes and I vomited.
Christian-Man: So I compared DNA to a book and blew someone's mind.
David: So you know that's a watchmaker's fallacy right? So if DNA is watch, and god made the watch, then who made god?
Christian-Man: How dare you compare a watch to DNA.
David: But you just compared DNA to a book
Christian-Man: Well, but, you know. I mean. GOD is eternal....so yeah.
Now repeat for the next 10 minutes and you've seen the video.
"If the universe is intelligently decipherable, it HAS to be intelligent in its origin." -- RHM --
The banana lying beside David was a nice touch.
Pig Pot Pie just noticed that
Lol this is the most argumentative I've seen Ray Comfort. Usually I feel like he avoids these questions, I'm glad David held him on a few of these questions.