As a 70's child I spent my family vacations in the "back seat" of my parents 280z 2+2...Always been a fan of the Datsun Z and was very, very hard pressed between a 70's Datsun and/or a mid 80's 911. Nostalgia being what it is the decision was more difficult than I thought...(911 won out in the end). Your "The Drive" portion of the video really struck home with me and even though my 911 is a daily driver of sorts, I still have to worry about it in ways I don't think I would with a Datsun. As I get older 0-60 doesn't mean nearly as much to me as "just not having to worry about things". I give big thumbs up to the Datsun Z owners around town who still keep them on the road and let young people (who want to know about the Porsche, and what I recommend) know about the Datsun Z family and just how great they in comparison. Start small, work your way up...but it isn't a sacrifice at all. Glad I found your channel and appreciate you guys and your grounded approach to reviewing cars. All the best!
They are both great cars and we're definitely going to review a mid-80s Porsche 911 on this channel, as well as a mid-80s 930 turbo, both of which are in the collection. We'd be remiss if we didn't, as they are absolutely iconic cars worth sharing as well. It will take us a bit to get to them as we're trying to cover as much diversity as possible and released the Porsche 356 Roadster video already, but definitely stick around. The 911 makes a good daily driver as well, but I agree that the Datsun is a more approachable daily classic.
One that was seen in Longview, Washington (when these were new to the market), had a decal on the rockers that said "Japanese Ferrari." Still good for a chuckle today.
The best part about this is that we filmed the Ferrari 308GTB and the 240Z on the same day, the 308 in the morning & the Z after lunch. Hands down, when it came to the overall driving experience, the Datsun beat the Ferrari by a long shot. The Ferrari objectively looks better in the showroom but boy was the Datsun so much more fun!
Very enjoyable to watch with great research and insights into the driving experience. Fascinating to hear about its impact in the US as I'm based in the UK.
Cheers! Thanks so much for watching, so glad to have you with us for the ride. Please let us know if you have any questions or comments, we want to make this series the best it can be!
@@Everyday2Exotic This is my first time watching you show. (Because I have a 240z as my mistress, I had to watch it!) - I wanted to say, I think you both do a quality production. You appear to have many nice vehicles, and so I am surprised your viewership is not higher than what it is? Perhaps it's the "times" we live in, as troubled as they are, 10 years ago you both would have been a smashing hit! (with 1+million subs)
@@Everyday2Exotic I have a 1970z. Actually they came with Asbestos fuel rail heat wraps. Of course by the 80's if you bought a 280 and under, you wouldn't find ANY heat shielding, and they did just fine. That's because even my series 1 1970 Datsun Z comes with a "fuel return line" installed stock. Warm excess fuel simply returns to the tank and mingles with the cooler fuel. at 3-5lbs fuel pressure, the fuel back then had a lower flash point. Since nearly all fuel today is FI at 30+lbs the fuel mixtures today tend to cause older american carb cars to "vapor lock" (because they didn't come with fuel return lines)- but relied on the fuel mixture back then to not flash.
I had those rubber baby buggy bumpers on my 280Z.... my friend also had rubber stripping on his volvo. As we both drove sticks (rarely many people drove automatics unless they were 3speed on the tree) in the city, at a stop light, I would creep up and "nudge" him into the intersection with my bumper until he realized what was happening and put his foot on the brakes! LOL (most of us simply throw the car in neutral and take our foot off of the brakes when waiting at traffic lights)
Ahahahaha that's such a great story! Some people really love those park bench bumpers for nostalgic reasons. All the better for bumping your buddies at stop lights. I know this comment is a month old, but just wanted to shoot you a quick thanks for chiming in and sharing this story. Made our day!
First time viewer… great channel. New subscriber. But just gotta say, you guys put out serious SNL hot tub couple “Luv-ahs” vibe… and I’m here for it 😂
Welcome to the channel! We're glad you're here, we're only three months old officially so you're here right at the start! One of the best parts about this show is how we can all just hang out together and have fun, make jokes, let Alex and Amy be that married couple that clearly enjoys being together... none of it is manufactured for audiences, which is why the UA-cam format works so well for stuff like this. So glad you found us, and please let us know what you think of each video! Your feedback helps us make this better and better. :)
My father bought one new in 1970. When he told people he bought a Datsun, they thought he meant the little pickup truck. I know he remembers the car fondly, unfortunately I came along and made it much less practical 😂
Really good format guys, Nice flow! all around good video. Love Datsuns!! I own a 78 280z (with 72 Z bumpers) LOL. It would be awesome if you could get your hands on a old Skyline GTR. I'm just dreaming out loud. Great video guys.
Thank you very much! There isn't a Skyline in the collection yet but it may happen some day. There's also the possibility that we may borrow a few cars from friends at some point in the future to cover some of the cool cars that aren't ours as well. We also have a 1978 280Z that we are the second owners of. It's an incredibly original low mileage car, original down to the original paint and dated spark plug wires. If it wasn't, I would have been sorely tempted to backdate the bumpers to the earlier ones as well.
That's a big +1 for the Skyline! As Alex already mentioned, there's a lot of cars outside the collection that we can cover too. Thanks for letting us know what to keep an eye out for!
I am really enjoying your series-my wife does too! (Amy). The 240-Z was world changer when it came out (from the viewpoint of an 18-year old in 1971 when my dad paid a fee to get on the waiting list for his '71.) So maybe an 8 for significance was a little conservative? Seems to me it was about $3500 for that one. Sure you could buy a v-12 Jaguar or a Ferrari, but reliability and good air conditioning in Arizona made it such a huge value. Price went up when he got his'73 which was not the same car. It would be nice to have a simple spreadsheet so we can quickly compare your scores on the cars at the end of the video, or maybe a link, as it sounds like you have a few cars to test. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much! It's somewhat difficult to score some of these cars, as with the range of cars in the collection is so broad. The Datsun really is a fantastic car and overall scores really highly. When we started filming, we didn't necessarily know what our release order would be and have shifted some things around from the chronological filming order to better suit showcasing different cars. Things are settling out now, however and we'll probably be more in line with the chronological order as we start filming more episodes once our reserve of filmed but as yet unedited episodes is depleted. We do plan to redo the www.hauglandcollection.com website to put it more inline with the channel and will definitely dedicate a page to the current rankings of the cars with links back to the relevant episodes. The website is quite out of date as it predates this channel by about three years and we moved the photo studio to its present location when we built the new building. We're starting that redesign now.
Alex already commented about the scoring reviews, but that's definitely the plan! The first couple of episodes we filmed, we didn't know where they'd land so we didn't have the ability to film a Haugland Rank recap. But for all the episodes we're filming now, we're including the rank so we can see where these awesome cars stand against each other! Thanks for chiming in, love hearing how you'd rank the car too!
I test drove one in 1973 I believe, didn't have the money to buy it. The salesman and I went down the four lane highway about a mile at the 55 mph speed limit, boring. He directed me to take a 's' shaped exit that was marked at 30 mph, I just dropped it into 3rd gear and accelerated through the exit. I thought it was fun, the salesman wasn't happy!
That's such an excellent story! While filming this episode, we kept running into people who had such good memories of 240z's, it truly is such a special car. Thank you for chiming in and sharing your memories too!
I think that's one of the best part about looking at some of these cars - they may not represent the best version of the car (like the 4th gen Z) but you can see just how much of a paradigm shift the first generation made. So even though this car isn't peak automotive, it still is something to really appreciate. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks! 510s are also fantastic cars, but we don't have one in the collection, at least yet. There's still a wide range of other cars to cover too, but if the opportunity arises I'd love to do a 510 video.
The Datsun 510 is such a good car. Thanks so much for watching (and I hope you don't mind this terribly overdue content, I have to remind myself to reply to comments while producing more content. UA-cam life!)
Overall I thought it was good, thank you. An insignificant thing I didn't like was the walking while talking. It seemed a little awkward for some reason?🤷♀️
Maybe it's the weight distribution in the 2+2, but it's one of the best cars I have driven in the winter. It's predictable, it's controllable, and it's fun.
I have a friend who owned one in the 1970s and went skiing with it, so it is definitely a viable winter car for some and the quality of handling and good tires probably makes a massive difference.
The crazy thing for me personally (Joel here) is that we filmed the Ferrari 308 driving shots in the morning, and the 240Z in the afternoon. What a stark difference! Yes, the Ferrari is a loud beastly little track car for its era, but the Z was so smooth and well balanced and just took corners like a champ. It was automotive whiplash! If I honestly had to choose a car to drive for the rest of my life between those two, I'd pick the 240Z hands down. The 308 is a great car to look at, but the Z is a great car to drive. (The Hauglands ultimately agreed which is why the 240Z was placed higher on the Haugland Rank than the 308)
Thanks! It's Unwind, featuring Denitia by Kyle McEvoy. The info pops up on screen in the video at about the 15:25 timestamp. We wanted to make sure that we give credit to the great music that we're acquiring the rights to use for these videos, so it should be in the video somewhere for all of them.
We're so glad you found us! Alex answered your music comment but yes - we love to put in credits into our videos because these bands are so amazing. Thanks for watching!
The Datsun inline six was designed to go into a forklift. Its no wonder that the first generation z could go over three hundred thousand miles without an engine rebuild
The engine was meant to be used in a forklift? Wow, that's an awesome bit of trivia we didn't know about. Absolutely love that sort of stuff. Amy mentioned in the video that people always say they never should have sold their 240Zs. Even with 300k miles on them, are you glad you sold yours or do you wish you'd kept them?
Absolutely FALSE. The L24 is a 6 cylinder version of the 4 cylinder in the 510. Which itself is a 4 cylinder version of a Mercedes 6 cylinder that Prince had a license to build. Nissan bought Prince and thus obtained the license. So no, it wasn't meant to go into a forklift.
@user-iy9jz1tg4y your right. I recall seeing the same configuration of the 240 z engine, except it had 4 cylinders. It was used in the Datsun trucks. A Nissan parts specialist told me the Nissan 240 six was used in heavy duty forklift. I was given misinformation. Thanks for the correction. 😬
One of the sexiest 70's sports cars. Love that shape and wedge tail. Also one of the best sounding engines of the era.
You have excellent taste!!
As a 70's child I spent my family vacations in the "back seat" of my parents 280z 2+2...Always been a fan of the Datsun Z and was very, very hard pressed between a 70's Datsun and/or a mid 80's 911. Nostalgia being what it is the decision was more difficult than I thought...(911 won out in the end).
Your "The Drive" portion of the video really struck home with me and even though my 911 is a daily driver of sorts, I still have to worry about it in ways I don't think I would with a Datsun. As I get older 0-60 doesn't mean nearly as much to me as "just not having to worry about things". I give big thumbs up to the Datsun Z owners around town who still keep them on the road and let young people (who want to know about the Porsche, and what I recommend) know about the Datsun Z family and just how great they in comparison. Start small, work your way up...but it isn't a sacrifice at all.
Glad I found your channel and appreciate you guys and your grounded approach to reviewing cars.
All the best!
They are both great cars and we're definitely going to review a mid-80s Porsche 911 on this channel, as well as a mid-80s 930 turbo, both of which are in the collection. We'd be remiss if we didn't, as they are absolutely iconic cars worth sharing as well. It will take us a bit to get to them as we're trying to cover as much diversity as possible and released the Porsche 356 Roadster video already, but definitely stick around. The 911 makes a good daily driver as well, but I agree that the Datsun is a more approachable daily classic.
One that was seen in Longview, Washington (when these were new to the market), had a decal on the rockers that said "Japanese Ferrari." Still good for a chuckle today.
The best part about this is that we filmed the Ferrari 308GTB and the 240Z on the same day, the 308 in the morning & the Z after lunch. Hands down, when it came to the overall driving experience, the Datsun beat the Ferrari by a long shot. The Ferrari objectively looks better in the showroom but boy was the Datsun so much more fun!
Very enjoyable to watch with great research and insights into the driving experience. Fascinating to hear about its impact in the US as I'm based in the UK.
Cheers! Thanks so much for watching, so glad to have you with us for the ride. Please let us know if you have any questions or comments, we want to make this series the best it can be!
Just keep enjoying the cars, their histories, and you two presenting. I’m learning so much from you guys.
It's always a pleasure to have you here!
@@Everyday2Exotic This is my first time watching you show. (Because I have a 240z as my mistress, I had to watch it!) - I wanted to say, I think you both do a quality production. You appear to have many nice vehicles, and so I am surprised your viewership is not higher than what it is? Perhaps it's the "times" we live in, as troubled as they are, 10 years ago you both would have been a smashing hit! (with 1+million subs)
Nice to see the fuel rails have the aluminum/fiberglass insulation wrap. This was installed by the Datsun dealership to address vapor lock issues.
Whoa that's a really cool note! I'll see if Alex knew that. Thanks so much for watching and chiming in!
@@Everyday2Exotic I have a 1970z. Actually they came with Asbestos fuel rail heat wraps. Of course by the 80's if you bought a 280 and under, you wouldn't find ANY heat shielding, and they did just fine. That's because even my series 1 1970 Datsun Z comes with a "fuel return line" installed stock. Warm excess fuel simply returns to the tank and mingles with the cooler fuel. at 3-5lbs fuel pressure, the fuel back then had a lower flash point. Since nearly all fuel today is FI at 30+lbs the fuel mixtures today tend to cause older american carb cars to "vapor lock" (because they didn't come with fuel return lines)- but relied on the fuel mixture back then to not flash.
I had those rubber baby buggy bumpers on my 280Z.... my friend also had rubber stripping on his volvo. As we both drove sticks (rarely many people drove automatics unless they were 3speed on the tree) in the city, at a stop light, I would creep up and "nudge" him into the intersection with my bumper until he realized what was happening and put his foot on the brakes! LOL (most of us simply throw the car in neutral and take our foot off of the brakes when waiting at traffic lights)
Ahahahaha that's such a great story! Some people really love those park bench bumpers for nostalgic reasons. All the better for bumping your buddies at stop lights. I know this comment is a month old, but just wanted to shoot you a quick thanks for chiming in and sharing this story. Made our day!
First time viewer… great channel. New subscriber.
But just gotta say, you guys put out serious SNL hot tub couple “Luv-ahs” vibe… and I’m here for it 😂
Welcome to the channel! We're glad you're here, we're only three months old officially so you're here right at the start! One of the best parts about this show is how we can all just hang out together and have fun, make jokes, let Alex and Amy be that married couple that clearly enjoys being together... none of it is manufactured for audiences, which is why the UA-cam format works so well for stuff like this. So glad you found us, and please let us know what you think of each video! Your feedback helps us make this better and better. :)
My father bought one new in 1970. When he told people he bought a Datsun, they thought he meant the little pickup truck. I know he remembers the car fondly, unfortunately I came along and made it much less practical 😂
You know what they say, practicality is in the eye of the beholder! (that's the saying, right?) Thanks so much for chiming in!
Really good format guys, Nice flow! all around good video. Love Datsuns!! I own a 78 280z (with 72 Z bumpers) LOL. It would be awesome if you could get your hands on a old Skyline GTR. I'm just dreaming out loud. Great video guys.
Thank you very much! There isn't a Skyline in the collection yet but it may happen some day. There's also the possibility that we may borrow a few cars from friends at some point in the future to cover some of the cool cars that aren't ours as well. We also have a 1978 280Z that we are the second owners of. It's an incredibly original low mileage car, original down to the original paint and dated spark plug wires. If it wasn't, I would have been sorely tempted to backdate the bumpers to the earlier ones as well.
That's a big +1 for the Skyline! As Alex already mentioned, there's a lot of cars outside the collection that we can cover too. Thanks for letting us know what to keep an eye out for!
I am really enjoying your series-my wife does too! (Amy). The 240-Z was world changer when it came out (from the viewpoint of an 18-year old in 1971 when my dad paid a fee to get on the waiting list for his '71.) So maybe an 8 for significance was a little conservative? Seems to me it was about $3500 for that one. Sure you could buy a v-12 Jaguar or a Ferrari, but reliability and good air conditioning in Arizona made it such a huge value. Price went up when he got his'73 which was not the same car. It would be nice to have a simple spreadsheet so we can quickly compare your scores on the cars at the end of the video, or maybe a link, as it sounds like you have a few cars to test. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much! It's somewhat difficult to score some of these cars, as with the range of cars in the collection is so broad. The Datsun really is a fantastic car and overall scores really highly. When we started filming, we didn't necessarily know what our release order would be and have shifted some things around from the chronological filming order to better suit showcasing different cars. Things are settling out now, however and we'll probably be more in line with the chronological order as we start filming more episodes once our reserve of filmed but as yet unedited episodes is depleted. We do plan to redo the www.hauglandcollection.com website to put it more inline with the channel and will definitely dedicate a page to the current rankings of the cars with links back to the relevant episodes. The website is quite out of date as it predates this channel by about three years and we moved the photo studio to its present location when we built the new building. We're starting that redesign now.
Alex already commented about the scoring reviews, but that's definitely the plan! The first couple of episodes we filmed, we didn't know where they'd land so we didn't have the ability to film a Haugland Rank recap. But for all the episodes we're filming now, we're including the rank so we can see where these awesome cars stand against each other! Thanks for chiming in, love hearing how you'd rank the car too!
I've had two first-generation Datsun z's I got over 300 thousand miles from both. Yes, exhaust fumes were a problem.
300 thousand miles! That's incredible! They're such amazing cars.
I test drove one in 1973 I believe, didn't have the money to buy it. The salesman and I went down the four lane highway about a mile at the 55 mph speed limit, boring. He directed me to take a 's' shaped exit that was marked at 30 mph, I just dropped it into 3rd gear and accelerated through the exit. I thought it was fun, the salesman wasn't happy!
That's such an excellent story! While filming this episode, we kept running into people who had such good memories of 240z's, it truly is such a special car. Thank you for chiming in and sharing your memories too!
In 1983 I got my first car at age 16. It was a super clean 1973 240Z. Loved that car.
It’s such an iconic car. We sure love our 240z!
The 4th gen is my favorite but all Z cars are cool! Front brakes disc and rear drums are the same that are on my Toyota....Tacoma....from 2017...
I think that's one of the best part about looking at some of these cars - they may not represent the best version of the car (like the 4th gen Z) but you can see just how much of a paradigm shift the first generation made. So even though this car isn't peak automotive, it still is something to really appreciate. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Would be nice if you can bring a Datsun 510. Great content. Love the style! 😍
Thanks! 510s are also fantastic cars, but we don't have one in the collection, at least yet. There's still a wide range of other cars to cover too, but if the opportunity arises I'd love to do a 510 video.
The Datsun 510 is such a good car. Thanks so much for watching (and I hope you don't mind this terribly overdue content, I have to remind myself to reply to comments while producing more content. UA-cam life!)
Some cool shots in the intro.
Overall I thought it was good, thank you. An insignificant thing I didn't like was the walking while talking. It seemed a little awkward for some reason?🤷♀️
Ooh that's great feedback! Do you mean walking while talking during the car overview or during the outro?
Maybe it's the weight distribution in the 2+2, but it's one of the best cars I have driven in the winter. It's predictable, it's controllable, and it's fun.
I have a friend who owned one in the 1970s and went skiing with it, so it is definitely a viable winter car for some and the quality of handling and good tires probably makes a massive difference.
The crazy thing for me personally (Joel here) is that we filmed the Ferrari 308 driving shots in the morning, and the 240Z in the afternoon. What a stark difference! Yes, the Ferrari is a loud beastly little track car for its era, but the Z was so smooth and well balanced and just took corners like a champ. It was automotive whiplash! If I honestly had to choose a car to drive for the rest of my life between those two, I'd pick the 240Z hands down. The 308 is a great car to look at, but the Z is a great car to drive. (The Hauglands ultimately agreed which is why the 240Z was placed higher on the Haugland Rank than the 308)
Such a cool video guys, love it. What's the song during the drive section?
Thanks! It's Unwind, featuring Denitia by Kyle McEvoy. The info pops up on screen in the video at about the 15:25 timestamp. We wanted to make sure that we give credit to the great music that we're acquiring the rights to use for these videos, so it should be in the video somewhere for all of them.
We're so glad you found us! Alex answered your music comment but yes - we love to put in credits into our videos because these bands are so amazing. Thanks for watching!
The Datsun inline six was designed to go into a forklift. Its no wonder that the first generation z could go over three hundred thousand miles without an engine rebuild
The engine was meant to be used in a forklift? Wow, that's an awesome bit of trivia we didn't know about. Absolutely love that sort of stuff. Amy mentioned in the video that people always say they never should have sold their 240Zs. Even with 300k miles on them, are you glad you sold yours or do you wish you'd kept them?
do you have citations for that? I have always understood that it was derived from the Prince G-7 six that went into the Gloria and Skyline.
Absolutely FALSE. The L24 is a 6 cylinder version of the 4 cylinder in the 510. Which itself is a 4 cylinder version of a Mercedes 6 cylinder that Prince had a license to build. Nissan bought Prince and thus obtained the license. So no, it wasn't meant to go into a forklift.
@user-iy9jz1tg4y your right. I recall seeing the same configuration of the 240 z engine, except it had 4 cylinders. It was used in the Datsun trucks. A Nissan parts specialist told me the Nissan 240 six was used in heavy duty forklift. I was given misinformation. Thanks for the correction. 😬
4:26 Oh those... I have no familiarity with those...
Also, those bumpers... stick out by more than 6". It's probably closer to 10. lol
Those rubber protectors, the true bane of American 70s era cars...
Cousin had a 78 280z I own a 2014 370z
There's a 280Z in the collection to match the 240, but that's the last of the Fairladys we have. The new ones are amazing, too!
@@Everyday2Exotic nice