@@garrysekelli6776 you do have a point However in this case he is no longer a career criminal and is sharing a very sad personal story which endears him even more give the guy a break and chill out
"Why would my dad do that to me" is one of the most important points of this whole story and the most heartbreaking. If a society wants to reduce criminality it needs to protect children and reduce poverty first and foremost. This little kid didn't stand much of a chance, child abuse creates more and more abuse later on. I'm glad this man managed to break the cycle eventually.
@@bored588 wtf? How about just go get a regular job? Go clean fucking toilets if you have to. Don't even try to pass off doing that as something to help the poverty and community, that's bullshit. It only spreads misery and suffering.
@@bored588 thats the point. Poverty will always be the root cause of crime. Aggressive or violent methods of taking down criminal operations literally only make it worse by increasing the payout of that lifestyle, pushing more poor people down into that lifestyle and continuing the cycle. Its the reason "the war on drugs" does nothing to help, adress or change a damn thing
Had nothing to do with money, it never does, people join gangs for power, first and foremost, as a gang member i can't be screwed with, i'm the one who screws with others and they take it because they don't have a choice, that's why people join gangs and remain affiliated with them even after they got money. People understand they could earn a living working normal jobs, but you'd be a civilian, without power, without girls, without respect, they don't want that. It could just as easily be his dad telling you sob stories and you'd side with him if he was the one telling the story, both of them are equally evil, Marv probably more-so as he hurt considerably more people and for longer than his dad did as a low-level drug dealer and he did it for power
As a father, honestly brought tears to my eyes. Can't imagine my son going through something like that. Would do take a bullet to never make it happen either.
This interview made me cry... can you blame someone for ending up in a life of violence and drugs when that's all they've seen growing up. He seems like a man full of passion and drive who had no opportunity in life except to fight his way out
@Joel Harvey it’s not about not taking responsibility it’s about acknowledging that the environment that you were thrown into has a profound effect on behaviors. It’s hard to become a drug dealer or thief when you grow up in a rich neighborhood and never wanted for anything. It’s a lot easier when you’re born in a shit hole tho. Acknowledging the effects of shitty environment isn’t shifting blame. You can do both. Anyone born into a shit hole will tell you the same thing. Accept responsibility for your actions while also realizing sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do
@@RainRemnant - Yes, not everyone.. but it is much more likely. And that mental abuse as a child can distort a growing brain. It’s mentally damaging. So yes, it’s not a certainty that he would end up like this, but the chances went from 1% chance to 50% chance. Those are not good odds.
When Marvin is telling the part of the story where his father held his hand on the flame, absolutely killed me.... the anguish in his voice, it's as if he is 8 again reliving the confusion and horror. How he says "But Dad I love you! how can you do this to me?" hurts bad
Its peak init. F any dad like that. All men like that should be ashamed and put in jail for life. How can u even do that. Knowing u don't feed your kid so he went and nicked some food. Shame to his mother aswel
@@RainRemnant what you learn as a kid shapes you for life. He learnt that he could take back control from the person who was tormenting him and his family on a daily basis through violence, the same thing which was used against him. When you're abused like that you become hypersensitive for the rest of your life, you promise yourself you'll never let someone fuck you over again and you mean it. Of course it was wrong and not everyone who's abused goes down that path, but it's just too easy without any kind of support system and when it's all you know. Through that lens it only makes sense
He’s so in control of his emotions he goes from showing them and displaying what he felt to immediately talking to them in a semi normal tone it’s beautiful
It’s also the sign of a psychopath or serial offender. If you’re having an emotional conversation, you’re balling your eyes out, you shouldn’t be able to get out of it and talk as if it never happened.
You can hear the unresolved pain and anger towards his father still till this day. Poor Marvin, he really got dealt the worst cadrs in life but he still managed to turn it around. He's amazing 👏
I have heard countless adults (including judges) claim that "abused kids heal, and trauma never lasts forever" anyone that believes that should watch this video and see the anger and hurt in his face 40+ years later.
His father was an evil man. This goes to show you what exposure to evil can do to innocent children if it remains unchecked. I'm glad he's doing better than the worst times.
@@madworldfan123 how do you know? Taught him that if you steal you get punished( btw i didnt see any burn scars on his hand) still goes and steals the drugs and doesnt own up to it even though his mother is being accused and abused for it. You know shit
@@thebob3712 but his mother and father were criminals and scumbags by the sound of it so what right does he have to do that to his child when he's only copying the behaviour he seen every single day of his childhood.
@@thebob3712 oh so we are judging children on the same exact playing field as adults now? Next time a kid steals a candy bar from a store I guess we should throw them in a cell with Billy 2 Knives who just got put in for murdering someone.
@@FyeRye yup, but assuming you’re an adult with children or plans for children it falls upon us now. The previous generation’s work has been done for better or worse.
Lot of people lived this mad life unfortunately. U just have to walk the streets an there lads trying to rob u, rape, killing all same thing in common broken home syndrome
I went to secondary school at the same time with him. All I remember is, he was someone to keep away from. Amazing to hear his life story years down the line. So raw !
@@michaeljohnson-thiman4975 All I remember is his reputation went before him and I kept well away. Despite being in the year above ! I'd like to meet him now though. There's some serious work to be done around Queen's Crescent where I grew up ! One of the few parts of London that has got a lot worse than when I grew up there in the 80's !
The way he was right back at the moment with his father, at home and getting his hand burned over the oven for shoplifting on his mother's command. You can still see the pain, anger and sadness he felt in that very moment in his eyes. My heart is absolutely broken for the innocent child that died that day. He's still so extremely traumatized that re-telling his experiences takes him back in that instant.
I was having the same thought. My parents divorced when I was 11. She always had a full time job and part time jobs , that was her, hard working .My mom managed to keep the house, built a small appartment downstairs for revenue, take us to Disneyworld, have a 27 feet above ground pool, food scarcity was never a subject, we only teased her about buying jujubes and nothing else once. May her god bless her heart and may she rest in peace.
this was the most vivid story telling I've ever seen. Felt as if I was really there watching everything unfold. Inspiring how he changed his life around.
@@Junkhead91 He’s definitely being honest. Not only can I tell by body language, but just look at him. He’s been through it, I know it’s hard to imagine this crazy shit happening when you’ve never been through even 1/10 of what he’s been through.
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Things sound so much different over there in England. Honestly, it sounds better. Like people usually use their hands. People over here are so quick to use a weapon. Sounds like that is rare over there
The story of him getting shot reminds me of an interview I heard with a homicide detective. When asked for me piece of advice he said “if some points gun at you, never act tough and tell them to shoot you or dare them to shoot you. You’d be surprised how often a suspect told me ‘he told me to shoot him!’”
"Please don't..." is a surprisingly disarming phrase in real life, despite what TV and movies would have you think. People with an ego can't do it because it's a request, an admission of a power disparity, and an act of surrender. But you will more likely live, than if you can't give any ground and instead taunt your attacker. (proven to work in games too against potential griefers)
@@GlennDavey saying "please dont" or begging for mercy don't work cause they know you'll snitch. Best thing is to say nothing and just give them the 1000 yard stare like 😶 by doing this you are communicating directly with their medulla oblongata, very disarming
You can see and hear man holding in his tears when he spoke about his Dad burning his hand for stealing. A lot could have been different if he got disciplined in a less harsher way.
That and if they didn't teach him that activity. Before that he said when he would go to the shops his mum would encourage him to steal so he thought it was normal. You can't punish your child for something you teach them to do
I just met this guy today on Northern Line and I came back to the video,I had a 5 min convo with him. What a guy,I can't explain how grateful he is for his life.
@@stinga_ Nah, google says he grew up in North West London, which would track. He doesn't have an East London (cockney) accent, accents change over really short distances in London.
The part where his dad burns his hand because he was caught shoplifting sent a cold chill down my spine. His dad was an evil and horrible man!! Especially when he believed his drug dealing gangster dad ‘loves him’.
i was beaten. belts, plugs, hanger by my own dad also burnt i Remeber he had a metal ladle (big spoon) burnt it till it scalding hot and was shouting at us. he didnt touch me with it. used to scare the shit outta me. When i complain to my other relatives theyd say he has "High blood sugar" etc i dont talk to him anymore. and gladly. i stay outta his life. he stays out of mines never going to torture my kids, but i will discipline them
I bet his dad was once an innocent child who was betrayed and abused by someone that was supposed to love him unconditionally as well. It's so heartbreaking to think that we all start out with the same innocence, and that some folks' lives are shaped by that innocence being stolen away at the hands of abuse. Marvin could have easily ended up like his father, and this video shows that he started down that path. Perhaps if this video had been made 15 or 20 years ago we'd be calling Marvin evil and horrible. Everyone has a story, and our perception of them often depends on which chapter we're reading. The actions of Marvin's father were reprehensible, but it's important to remember that in the end we're all just people who sometimes make mistakes. I like to think that a little bit of understanding and compassion for your fellow man, despite those mistakes, can help break those cycles of violence and make the world a better place.
His Dad was well known around Harlesden. I knew guys who used to buy weed off his Dad , I don’t think they would have known he was like the way he was.
@@SherKhan-rd9uw bro belts plugs and hangers are normal beating tools as a parent thas wut mah momma use jus tha burning part abuse but eer thing else cuh naw dat shi normal
I could listen to this bloke tell stories all day. And I don’t even mean criminal stuff - he could ad-Lib his way through a Mr Men book for all I care. He’s a natural storyteller. Glad he’s doing better, and I hope he gets good things in his new life.
@@steveharrison76 His story is really captivating, Marvin Herbert is his full name it’s probably one of my all time favourite podcasts. I hope you enjoy it 😊
This shit made me realize how normal my childhood was despite me having to argue daily with my drunk dad because my mom was mentally drained and mentally beaten. There was no crime or drugs, no "rich privilege" or friends. There was however bullying at school by literally everyone for years on end. Yet, i had roof over my head, i always had food, little bit of toys and i knew, absolutely knew that my mom loved me and dad kinda appreciated me because biology. There is no either/or, rich/poor, privileged/underprivileged switch. It's a spectrum, we all are spread around there with different backgrounds.
privileged is such a shitty term nowadays because its veered so far off-course. It's like saying this guy is privileged as fuck because he only got shot as opposed to starving and becoming a child soldier of an African Warlord because of a civil war in Rwanda or something, it's not really a good measurement at all.
The amount this man has been through is mind boggling, no child deserves even a fraction of this man’s traumatic youth…I wish this man all the best in life.
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@@25kgplantsmake1kgbeefmosts4 your comment is not even related to this video and you are trying to persuade others to fall in with your own beliefs, do yourself a favour and dissappear
"One of mankind's greatest longings is complete freedom. One of mankind's greatest limitations is the inability to ever truly be free. We want the frictionless state of our origins. We want the autonomy of a god. We want the sea of reality to part at the whim of our fluctuating, individual will. We want, like is so often the case, what we cannot have. Of course, there are many different types of freedom, and there are many layers and nuances within each type, but arguably, absolute freedom, the existential sort, in wich one is able to do, feel and choose what one wants how and when they see fit without any kind of coercion, restraint or imposition, this is the ideal of freedom that drives the passionate pursuit of all other forms, and perhaps, at least to some large extent, all human activity in general. However in the final analysis, this ultimate endgame of freedom appears to be an incoherent impossibility. At the top of the pyramid of freedom, even an individual who is lucky enough to have unfastend all material and societal shackles remains unfree, restricted and told what to do, when to do it, and why to do it. This individual, of course possessing one of the most basic freedoms, physical freedom, can move their body around the world as they please. But in just this fist layer of analysis, obvious restrictions are found. Of course, that can only move according to how their body does and can, and can only move through and with the body. We generally do not see the body as a ball and chain because we associate parts of who we are with it and only know of existence trough it, but it takes more than a sick stomach or migraine headache to realize just how heavy this corporal weight is, how stricken to and limited by it we are. We are stuck inside, captives to it, subject to its faulty and fragile mechanisms that do and will break, keeping us bound in space according to its condition until it finally turns itself off, and us with it, unpreventably. And more yet, our body controls much of what we choose to do with it, how we move it, where we move it, and why. Being told when to eat, when to go to the bathroom, when to sleep, when to wake up, that is the daily routine of a prisoner, not a free man. Of course, one can decide to temporarily resist their bodily urges, and not eat or sleep and so forth, momentarily experiencing a fleeting distinction between mind and body. But it takes very little time for the conspiracy between the mind and body to reveal itself, the mental sensations corollary to the body's state soon compelling the individual to behave accordingly and get in line. This, of course, is just physical issues, though. Psychologically, abstractly, the individual is also able to think and consider everything beyond the mere urges and physical conditions of their body and environment. This much is true, but isn't our relationship with the mind in the realm of thought ultimately the same as our physical relationship with the body? We can only think through our mind, and we can only think in the way our mind thinks. We are given one lens of the world wit hb one type of software running on one type of hardware to process all that we intake and experience. If an artist was commissioned for a job and told that they were free to make anyrthing they wanted, but were then told it must be on an etch-a-sketch, would they really be free to make anything they wanted? Only in some sense. In truth, the freest of persons are free to think and see things how they choose, but only as long as it is with words that exist, through concepts that have been construed, in a brain that has been built, with respect to an environment that has been experienced, all moved by the laws of the natural world. Our mind's abilities are its constraints and its constraints inform us what to think and see. Each condition of the brain working in relation to the world like levees and dams controlling the flow of thought, each thought emerging out of the cause-and-effect ripples on the surface of its unending self-orchestrated flow. We are caught in this movement, swept away uncontrollably without ever choosing where we started from and where we go. Being compelled what to think and how to see is the report of an indoctrination, not a free man. It is a demonstration of humanity's overzealous ego and anthropocenticism to think that so long as no other humans tell then what to do they are free. Man should undoubtedly strive, fight for, and protect all their earthly freedoms within the physical, social, economic, and political domains of the world. But if and once he has, the remaining unsatisfied existential freedom, of wich he will continue to drink and run and lust and love to try to attain, perhaps requires a different kind of consideration. The closest thing to absolute existential freedom, it seems, is freedom from freedom itself, freedom from the constraints that the concept of freedom imposes. Being totally existantially free or unfree implies being a defined, separate thing that can be contained or inhabited by some other thing. "A human being is a part of the whole, called by us "universe", a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. The striving to free oneself from this delusion is the one issue of true [religiosity]. Not to nourish it but to try to overcome it is the way to reach the attainable measure of peace of mind." Albert Einstein"
3:09 that made me so unbelievably sad. A wonderful human being...Strong, righteous, loyal.... to think that his life was shaped into THIS by his parents makes me sick to the stomach.
Not even 5 minutes in and I'm EXHAUSTED! Sad to think this isn't an isolated case. How many kids are brought up like this only to be dismissed at every turn. Thank you for your story.
This is an amazing interview. I totally understand what he’s saying. As a recovered addict who’s now a teacher with a family-this is so touching. Bring out of that life, having money for vacations, having time to appreciate small things like a stable house.. I feel this in a big way
What an incredible story teller. You can just tell by his mannerisms and the way he speaks that he ain’t cappin. Glad he survived, was able to turn his life around and is now helping others.
I love how unafraid Lad Bible is to show all the parts of the human experience. They interview people that have experienced so many different types of pain, joys, losses, and gains, and it’s so interesting to watch. Thank you, Marvin, for being so vulnerable, and thank you Lad Bible for giving him and others opportunities to tell their raw stories.
What a story teller! wish I has I had a fraction of this man's energy and intensity, its impossible not to lose yourself along with him in what he's saying.
This guy has some serious skills when he tells a story. He's so passionate and expressive, I could listen to him read my laundry machine instruction book and I'd be REALLY listening
I loved hearing his genuine joy at the end talking about getting mail to his house, etc. It was with the same passion, just the opposite emotion, as when he spoke of his dad hurting him. It's humbling.
The people who kill for no reason and have no conscience are the ones I cannot forgive. This man, however, I believe he deserves this new life. At least it was gang related and not innocent people.
I keep coming back to this video just to hear him tell the story about his father.. I can relate to the anger and the strong emotions . I feel like there’s a bottled up anger that I am so scared of when thinking about my father and when I listen to this it helps me relate and know I’m not the only one who feels this way
Stay strong, while others go low, go high, aim for the stars T.416. Don't let it define you or wreck your chance at peace and happiness. That would be a win from something you can't change, only move forward from as best you can. ❤
Honestly, I need some serious help.. I feel like I can’t talk to no one about the issues I’m having inside my head.. I don’t know who else to go to.. when I posted this original comment I was drinking that night.. I am also drinking again tonight.. I am aware I am using the alcohol as a escape for the pain… but I cannot help it. When I was younger as a teen I looked myself in the mirror everyday and told myself I was ready to die out on the streets cause I was doing dumb shit.. I had no emotions what so ever and felt like nothing bothered me.. now that I grew up and have my own family a lot of this shit is bugging me.. me trying to be the best father I can be and not having a relationship with my father I see all the time when visiting my mom.. he is there but not there at the same time which kills me inside.. I learned how to be a man alone.. and made a shit ton of mistakes along the way and I am happy the way I turned out but I have no fuckin idea why I have so much fuckijng anger built up.. I feel like a ticking time bomb waiting to go off ready to explode.. my family relies on me to feed them and be a man so I cannot show my emotions and be weak.. I feel like a boulder is weighing on me and I don’t know what to do
@@t.4166 yeah man I used to feel like that, but at some point you have to realize that you can't deal with everything alone. I was once at the darkest point in my life where I felt very alone, as if i had no purpose or added no value to this world. All it took was 1 conversation with someone very near and dear to my heart to convince me not to take my own life. Speaking about your emotions and being true and open with your family, especially your wife, is the most manly thing you can do. Forcing yourself to struggle alone until you eventually crack isn't the mindset a man who wants to be able to provide for his kids for the rest of his life should have. and that last statement isn't a guilt trip I just said that so you could realize that your kids and family need you yes, but not only monetarily my friend. Please talk about your issues before it's too late, I really wish the best for you.
my father was very much of the mindset that he had to deal with everything by himself, and these days he's relaxed a little due to old age but for over 50 years he was a very very angry man, had little self control, and effectively ruined his relationships with all his children, he's just very lucky that we are all forgiving. But I still love him very much and it's because we know that those around us aren't perfect, and we don't expect perfectionism, the people around you love you for who you are, not what you bring to the table. Please remember that. Don't make the same mistakes my father did, things like that trickle down generations. Talk to your wife or friends or whoever, and try to focus on your kids more and the positive in life and I swear things will get better.
That was heartbreaking. The seeds of pain, anger, hatred, crime and sociopathy are planted in the home. I hope and pray that this brother is able to stay away from that life and that he may find love and peace so that he may enjoy the rest of his life. No one should ever have to go through this.
@@marvinherbert Brother, just realized you were the guy in the video. Just wanna say I'm a big fan and literally my favorite quote is “In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king”
And how do you think parents of middle class background, parents who don't let their 20 year old son to go alone anywhere, let alone the local shops; due to fear of potentially being mugged by a homeless person...??? Would parents of such, allow their teenage offsprings be exposed to such characters with the background of this guest speaker!
@Bravo Diaz 007 this is someone else's life and situation and they are completely different and handled it differently. I'm sorry but most who've been through situations like this don't handle it well they go through a lot of pain suffering and w**** in their adult life and if they are deemed as decent to society God knows what the hell they're doing behind closed doors
You can't compare two different peoples' experiences. What you are literally saying is you think he's fucked up for not being stronger against abuse and trauma? Man, f*^$ you.
It rings true as well. Once I heard a car screaming along and could just see a kids head popping over the steering wheel. It was doing about 30mph in 2nd.
What an interview..Putting trust in your parents and being let down by the people you love most moulds your life forever.. Marvin what a guy you are mind
His answer to the regret question at 21:32 really struck me. Ironic that so many kids get involved in gangs and criminality for the love, respect and loyalty, yet this guy's experience shows the reality of that is the complete opposite. Never really heard anyone come at it from that angle before.
Wasn't so much the answer itself for me, it was the reaction on his face. His lips quivered, almost as if he had prepared himself for the question but hearing it aloud just broke him for an instant
The part that got me the most (humorously) was 17:43 when he recounts that he thought he was in heaven and says "Bollocks!" out of frustration. Such a light exclamation compared to the actual consequence of having died.
An incredible character, this is a man who's worth listening to. Honesty is what matters, being honest with ourselves about what drives us to make the decisions we make through life.
@@richiejbhoy1888 The fact you can say this about marvin is sick. The guy was a product of his surroundings and now he is making a change, but you wouldnt understand that as youve probably been spoon fed your entire life
I love this guy! So honest, terrifying, fragile, tough, funny. This planet creates some unique characters. I’m so happy he has found peace after such a crappy start in life.
This guy deserves a medal. Where he came from and what he became is remarkable. He'll never get recognized for what he does, but I appreciate it. He has made more of an impact than me and I didn't have it anywhere near as worse.
@@profile2047 been shot,stabbed, shot and stabbed people. Sold drugs, alleged murder. What hasn’t he done in the criminal world. He even has done over 20 years in prison throughout his life
Hearing the sound of his voice when talking about his father, i could tell he was definitely deeply hurt by that kind of abuse. I feel sorry he had to go thru that, no kid should ever have to experience that and you can tell it fucked him up.
This guy came and spoke to a few of us a my school a few years back, what a guy honestly. He really impacted us at the time and showed us this kind of life really isn’t worth living.
Dude I'm from Philadelphia,Pa. I've seen killings drug overdoses and brutal injuries that would make your head explode. This is the craziest story of a man's life that I've ever listened to. I've been stabbed, shot and, hit by a truck and an off duty fire fighter revived me. I woke up 5 days later in Jefferson hospital. I've also had numerous drug overdoses from opiates and benzos. This man's story was absolutely mind blowing. I would love to have a beer with this man. 🍻 Cheers mate!
He would be mint but unfortunately obviously isn’t allowed in the states. He’s got some more longer podcast’s on James english & Shaun attwoods channel
god man, as someone who’s father was also physically abusive and who’s family was broken and poor i know that feeling so well. i wish he had never gone through it, but in a way it’s nice to know you’re not alone. i’m glad he’s alive and i’m glad he got the chance to tell his story and show the environment that leads someone down that path
Incredible story brov, I can’t believe all them things that this life has put you through… I’m happy to hear you describe your current life and I love to know that you’re helping others. There definitely is a tone of kindness behind all this hatred. Thank you for sharing a tiny bit of your life with all of us 🙏🏼
Marvin Herbert. A criminal who once was at the top of the tree at his game in Crime. I've followed him for ages and why I love the guy is because he totally changed his life around and now is at the top of his game for good and helping others and is an inspiration to anybody that wants to change in life. He is as real as it gets and he has helped me from watching his videos to change my habits too. Thanks Marv top man.
What an absolutely genuine man. I've heard so many talk themselves up like they're the kings of the streets and they can't be stopped. This man has the sense of mind to admit that he used to be one of those guys, and now he finds happiness in even just getting mail with his name on it. If you still think you're a badass, I'd recommend rewatching the video.
sad thing is this most likely happens/happened to so many more others who suffer in silence and how frustrating it must be not to be able to express their feelings as well as this man can and get purely judged on how they turned out in life
Yh suffered in silence days off school with black eyes at 7-8y old scared of the violence every Friday scared kid ashamed to bring friends and gf back cos we had a shithole flat no carpet or Lino.. scared wat mood he goona be in coming back from betting shop.. but it taught me I’ve a son who was 23y last week he has a nice hse we had dream family holidays Disney Florida twice I allways hug him and tell him I love him every day. He’s never had and never saw any violence in the home we are proud of that. My dad taught me u dnt make ur own kid terrified of ya.. I grew up with Marvin mad ain’t t it a few of us had shit upbringings
@@ItsJustRyan89 it’s not a choice man. I’ve seen it first hand, lost an uncle to the street life, and now his sons are playing the same game. Sometimes this hard life chooses you man, and there’s nothing you can do about it, as much as we try to help them out.
This guy is such a strong person. Sometimes when someone with mental health problems goes through something traumatic on top of that, it can cause an all out loss in interest and living and extreme problems keeping a normal house. Hearing all these stories make me wonder why these woman and men raised these kids like this and didnt as for help
it's because they were doing and selling drugs man. Got involved with some dodgy shit. Keeping weed illegal only keeps it in the hands of criminals. Legalisation means less crime. But i guess nobody cares about that kinda stuff when it's nearly the year 2022 and nobody gives a shit about your society because the government ain't done fucking up the policies for hundreds of thousands of people
@@jackwatson3944 UA-cam is able to phase these things out because someone doesn't make a better platform. That is not the future if you or someone else makes a platform that isn't as shit as UA-cam is that can have reasonable community guidelines that aim to keep high quality content without censoring things.
well they need to make money off this video to continue making them and youtube realllyy dislikes swearing. They wont monetize on the slightest bit of cursing so deal with it, you're getting great interviews for the cost of bleeped curse words
This Is Heart Breaking. Behind every story of child abuse is a person with these kinds of stories. "I'M NOT TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE, I DO HELP THEM!" I love when he says that.
Anybody who has led that mad life and somehow turns it round is the real deal. Yeah Marvin your an inspiration to people who are wrapped up in the crazy world of crime. Keep up the good work mate.
The anger in his face after saying:" why would you do this to me?" No child should have to endure that and no person should have to live with that boiling anger
I may see marvin in a new light because if this… I was born in prison then abandoned .. ended up beaten abused repeatedly raped as a kid and addicted to butane gas at 8 years of age, addicted to crack at 17..life didn’t go well for me.. I’ve done 20 years in and out if prison …I’m now clean as i promised myself I wouldn’t die in prison.
Definitely. It’s sad that it takes hearing someone’s dark side to see the light tho, i Cant relate with murder but I can relate with everything that leads to that dilemma.
The fact he had the screwed up life he had but still turned his life around and tried his best to ask/beg for forgiveness to the ones he hurt is something to be proud just to listen to him admiting that
He's clearly a genuine bloke and that goes such a long way, especially now he's helping others. This is why focusing on rehabilitation in prison is also important rather than just locking people up and throwing away the key. I understand he didn't go straight because of prison but he's shown that people CAN change and so focusing on that with prisoners should be a big priority
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@@liammcghie4615 “I’m an illumin…” “I’m a mind awakener.” “I’m a real wizard and a true magician.” “I’m as deep as Ocean.”
I love how he wants UA-cam to hear that people rob each others friends kill olders.
Thank you for giving me the time to share my story 🙏🏽
Bro, this vid touched me diffrently 🙌🏾 thank you for sharing
I’m so sorry all this shit happens to u man I’m happy ur thriving now
Got sm respect for this don
Fantastic video Marvin
Legend
The anger he shows when he talks about his dad burning him is such deep incurable trauma, u can't heal it you jus learn how to live with it
Facts. Childhood trauma can stay with you throughout adulthood I.e. the rest of your life
you can see the pain in his eye
Wes you hell😭
@@zoooobat hell nah😭
@@zoooobat i can't take him seriously when that eye looks at me like that... i feel like a dick for saying this
The pain in his voice during his father's part
Yeah it’s all too real
I know
Didn’t get burned but got thrown against walls, busted my head wide open with a beer bottle once.
The guy is a career criminal. He knows what to say to gain sympathy.
@@garrysekelli6776 you do have a point However in this case he is no longer a career criminal and is sharing a very sad personal story which endears him even more give the guy a break and chill out
"Why would my dad do that to me" is one of the most important points of this whole story and the most heartbreaking. If a society wants to reduce criminality it needs to protect children and reduce poverty first and foremost. This little kid didn't stand much of a chance, child abuse creates more and more abuse later on. I'm glad this man managed to break the cycle eventually.
I mean, his dad was trying to end poverty, his poverty by selling drugs, but poverty none the less.
👏🏿
@@bored588 wtf? How about just go get a regular job? Go clean fucking toilets if you have to. Don't even try to pass off doing that as something to help the poverty and community, that's bullshit. It only spreads misery and suffering.
@@bored588 thats the point. Poverty will always be the root cause of crime. Aggressive or violent methods of taking down criminal operations literally only make it worse by increasing the payout of that lifestyle, pushing more poor people down into that lifestyle and continuing the cycle. Its the reason "the war on drugs" does nothing to help, adress or change a damn thing
Had nothing to do with money, it never does, people join gangs for power, first and foremost, as a gang member i can't be screwed with, i'm the one who screws with others and they take it because they don't have a choice, that's why people join gangs and remain affiliated with them even after they got money.
People understand they could earn a living working normal jobs, but you'd be a civilian, without power, without girls, without respect, they don't want that.
It could just as easily be his dad telling you sob stories and you'd side with him if he was the one telling the story, both of them are equally evil, Marv probably more-so as he hurt considerably more people and for longer than his dad did as a low-level drug dealer and he did it for power
His dad burning his hand, the anguish in his voice....broke my heart, literally....pain
You could really tell that he was reliving it in his head while he was telling it too.
he was good kid until that point. he had to became evil to survive his dad. Fucking tough.
yeah it brought me tears to my eyes it’s really unsettling and un easy watching the pain fill his eyes like he was 9 again
My moms aunt did the same to her. Her nails are still mutilated because of it, and her hands are not the same.
As a father, honestly brought tears to my eyes. Can't imagine my son going through something like that. Would do take a bullet to never make it happen either.
This interview made me cry... can you blame someone for ending up in a life of violence and drugs when that's all they've seen growing up. He seems like a man full of passion and drive who had no opportunity in life except to fight his way out
Choices, not everyone becomes a killer let alone kill 45 people
@@RainRemnant but it’s a 100x easier if that’s all that’s around u
I grew up with all of that, and I didn’t. If my shit head father taught me anything it was to not treat my kids like that
@Joel Harvey it’s not about not taking responsibility it’s about acknowledging that the environment that you were thrown into has a profound effect on behaviors. It’s hard to become a drug dealer or thief when you grow up in a rich neighborhood and never wanted for anything. It’s a lot easier when you’re born in a shit hole tho. Acknowledging the effects of shitty environment isn’t shifting blame. You can do both. Anyone born into a shit hole will tell you the same thing. Accept responsibility for your actions while also realizing sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do
@@RainRemnant - Yes, not everyone.. but it is much more likely. And that mental abuse as a child can distort a growing brain. It’s mentally damaging.
So yes, it’s not a certainty that he would end up like this, but the chances went from 1% chance to 50% chance.
Those are not good odds.
When Marvin is telling the part of the story where his father held his hand on the flame, absolutely killed me.... the anguish in his voice, it's as if he is 8 again reliving the confusion and horror. How he says "But Dad I love you! how can you do this to me?" hurts bad
Its peak init. F any dad like that. All men like that should be ashamed and put in jail for life. How can u even do that. Knowing u don't feed your kid so he went and nicked some food. Shame to his mother aswel
More people have dads like that but we don't all end up 45 people, compassion for a man like that feels very misplaced
@@RainRemnant u dont have compassion foe the man but for the innocent kid
@@RainRemnant what you learn as a kid shapes you for life. He learnt that he could take back control from the person who was tormenting him and his family on a daily basis through violence, the same thing which was used against him. When you're abused like that you become hypersensitive for the rest of your life, you promise yourself you'll never let someone fuck you over again and you mean it. Of course it was wrong and not everyone who's abused goes down that path, but it's just too easy without any kind of support system and when it's all you know. Through that lens it only makes sense
That's because he was literally reliving it m8
He’s so in control of his emotions he goes from showing them and displaying what he felt to immediately talking to them in a semi normal tone it’s beautiful
beautifully described,. thank you
It's also bipolar 🫠
It’s also the sign of a psychopath or serial offender. If you’re having an emotional conversation, you’re balling your eyes out, you shouldn’t be able to get out of it and talk as if it never happened.
@@gloverdragon6854 That's not true at all, I know lots of people who are able to compartmentalise like that. Armchair psychology helps nobody
@@failuretoOperate you’re literally doing armchair psychology and accusing me of it. Oh, the irony.
He has PTSD. Every time he tells a story, he's right there, feeling it, like a flashback. I too come from a traumatising abusive childhood.
That’s not trauma he’s feeling he’s getting excited telling it all
@@KD-kl4sx - the story about his father burning his hand was no excitement my brother, trust me on this.
@@jackshite8016 my bad
I thought he going to cry when he talked about his hand getting burnt . My dad did that to my brother too. Burnt his hand with a pressing iron! Awful!
@@KD-kl4sx it's both.
Man! This guy really relives his shit...
It's like you're right there with him.
I met this guy at a service center like a month ago I didn’t know who he was
That explains the guy on my screen...
@@Iksvomid what
You can hear the unresolved pain and anger towards his father still till this day. Poor Marvin, he really got dealt the worst cadrs in life but he still managed to turn it around. He's amazing 👏
Time stamp??
I have heard countless adults (including judges) claim that "abused kids heal, and trauma never lasts forever" anyone that believes that should watch this video and see the anger and hurt in his face 40+ years later.
You could feel the hurt and betrayal in his voice. I'll be honest. If I was in that situation the bayonet would have been pried from his throat.
hurting others wow hes amazing
@@puffylord-3931 you wouldn't understand that kind of life if you don't come from that kind of place. Anyone can judge..
He would be a brilliant actor. The way he tells stories is incredible
facts g
??????
He’s in a Netflix series in a few episodes
He's not fucking acting though, he's literally explaining the shit he has been through?
@@johnwaby95 they're just saying
His father was an evil man. This goes to show you what exposure to evil can do to innocent children if it remains unchecked. I'm glad he's doing better than the worst times.
Evil and cowardly.
@@madworldfan123 how do you know? Taught him that if you steal you get punished( btw i didnt see any burn scars on his hand) still goes and steals the drugs and doesnt own up to it even though his mother is being accused and abused for it. You know shit
@@thebob3712 but his mother and father were criminals and scumbags by the sound of it so what right does he have to do that to his child when he's only copying the behaviour he seen every single day of his childhood.
@@thebob3712 oh so we are judging children on the same exact playing field as adults now? Next time a kid steals a candy bar from a store I guess we should throw them in a cell with Billy 2 Knives who just got put in for murdering someone.
@@thebob3712 you cant be real
Be nice to your children folks. They didn't ask to be born.
Say that louder to the parents in the back.
I agree but how do u ask them 👀
None of us did.
@@FyeRye yup, but assuming you’re an adult with children or plans for children it falls upon us now. The previous generation’s work has been done for better or worse.
Litterally my Life quote "I Didn't ask to be born" 🤣
The story of this man’s life has to be made into a film. Truly incredible!
I know right
Fr tho wtf
Yeah for sure, thinking Guy Ritchie !
Lot of people lived this mad life unfortunately. U just have to walk the streets an there lads trying to rob u, rape, killing all same thing in common broken home syndrome
i would pay so much to see that
You can see the anger in his voice,the pain he endured, no kid should go through that
No person, child or adult, should ever be treated like that. It's inhumane, animals shouldn't even be treated that way.
@@daltonevans3412 fr
“I thought I was dead and I just thought. Bollocks” is the most london thing I’ve heard
Jajajajaja
What does that even mean
@meltedvinyl thanks yeah that is by far the most UK thing myself and “Ag456 6” have heard
@meltedvinyl also another word for your balls my feller
@@Cwrigz jajaja means lol in Spanish
The way he tells a story, its like I can picture everything so clearly.
Fo reals tho
Same
Yes many comments say the same thing
I went to secondary school at the same time with him. All I remember is, he was someone to keep away from. Amazing to hear his life story years down the line. So raw !
What was he like back then Alex??
What was he like back then Alex Green?
@@michaeljohnson-thiman4975 All I remember is his reputation went before him and I kept well away. Despite being in the year above ! I'd like to meet him now though. There's some serious work to be done around Queen's Crescent where I grew up ! One of the few parts of London that has got a lot worse than when I grew up there in the 80's !
What school and where ?
He's from Willesden I'm from Kingsbury and I was thinking he looks and sounds familiar
The way he was right back at the moment with his father, at home and getting his hand burned over the oven for shoplifting on his mother's command. You can still see the pain, anger and sadness he felt in that very moment in his eyes. My heart is absolutely broken for the innocent child that died that day. He's still so extremely traumatized that re-telling his experiences takes him back in that instant.
He flashed a bright smile when he mentioned his friend “Ginwell.” There must be more stories there
I was thinking that he loved him
did you not ehar what ginwell proceeded to do ?!?!!? it was that exact memory that made him smile
This guys been thru a lot man n sidenote i dont see how this life can be glamourised just look at the misery involved
That's a given.
@@litereporttv303 it takes misery and sorrow to truly understand peace and happiness.
Hearing childhoods like marvs makes me so grateful for my mum. We had nothing growing up, but she always made sure we where happy. Love you mum x
Respect bro. Moms are the best woman in our lives. We need to treat our mothers like true queens. They mold us to become good men. Love you mom..
What a beautiful statement - thanks for sharing that. :)
I was having the same thought. My parents divorced when I was 11. She always had a full time job and part time jobs , that was her, hard working .My mom managed to keep the house, built a small appartment downstairs for revenue, take us to Disneyworld, have a 27 feet above ground pool, food scarcity was never a subject, we only teased her about buying jujubes and nothing else once. May her god bless her heart and may she rest in peace.
Can I love ur mum as well?
You only get one mum weather you had a bad childhood or not, sometimes love and respect matters more..
this was the most vivid story telling I've ever seen. Felt as if I was really there watching everything unfold. Inspiring how he changed his life around.
Listen to the life of Johny the gangster
Yeah I'd take a lot of this with a pinch of salt...
Things change when someone was actually there living. As opposed to making up a story for fun
@@Junkhead91 facts
@@Junkhead91 He’s definitely being honest. Not only can I tell by body language, but just look at him. He’s been through it, I know it’s hard to imagine this crazy shit happening when you’ve never been through even 1/10 of what he’s been through.
I couldn't get enough of this interview, it resonated with me and my struggles. I wish the best for everyone out there reading this, honestly.
wishing the best for you as well
I hope you get through your struggles. Sending you love 💕
He told his story so well, as if he’s reliving it. I could imagine so vividly what was happening because of the way he was telling the story.
spot on
He probably was reliving it
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Things sound so much different over there in England. Honestly, it sounds better. Like people usually use their hands. People over here are so quick to use a weapon. Sounds like that is rare over there
Guess that the weapon shit happened to him too though. It's sad
The story of him getting shot reminds me of an interview I heard with a homicide detective. When asked for me piece of advice he said “if some points gun at you, never act tough and tell them to shoot you or dare them to shoot you. You’d be surprised how often a suspect told me ‘he told me to shoot him!’”
word
I'll remember that.
"Please don't..." is a surprisingly disarming phrase in real life, despite what TV and movies would have you think. People with an ego can't do it because it's a request, an admission of a power disparity, and an act of surrender. But you will more likely live, than if you can't give any ground and instead taunt your attacker. (proven to work in games too against potential griefers)
@@mosthated6120 Except your family because you are the Least Liked or whatever
@@GlennDavey saying "please dont" or begging for mercy don't work cause they know you'll snitch. Best thing is to say nothing and just give them the 1000 yard stare like 😶 by doing this you are communicating directly with their medulla oblongata, very disarming
You can see and hear man holding in his tears when he spoke about his Dad burning his hand for stealing. A lot could have been different if he got disciplined in a less harsher way.
That and if they didn't teach him that activity. Before that he said when he would go to the shops his mum would encourage him to steal so he thought it was normal. You can't punish your child for something you teach them to do
@@aries5685 yeah that’s the worst part. He probably didn’t grass her up because he didn’t want her to get beat up.
Yea that's sum deep stuff that sit can fuck u up mentaly
Its easy to pass the blame but at the end of the day you make a choice on how you want to live your life..
@@adventsociety5382 hurr durr free will
I just met this guy today on Northern Line and I came back to the video,I had a 5 min convo with him.
What a guy,I can't explain how grateful he is for his life.
“They don’t fucking love you” FACTS!! Could listen to this guy for hours
Marvin Herbert and James English Podcasts 👍
@@CoupTT thxs
@HayesyBoy927 go on then
@HayesyBoy927 his victims probably chose the same life as him. So yeah
@@locks9326 are you really trying to somehow justify the fact that he has killed 24 people this guys a wacko
He’s a brilliant storyteller and the accent makes it even better loved this
I was listening to it before I start watching the video I thought he was a white cockney guys
@@stinga_ Nah, google says he grew up in North West London, which would track. He doesn't have an East London (cockney) accent, accents change over really short distances in London.
@@cosmosnomad oh thanks. I always thought all london accent was cockney. My bad.
This man's voice was stuck I'm my head for days lmao
@@stinga_ he has a strong retina
The part where his dad burns his hand because he was caught shoplifting sent a cold chill down my spine. His dad was an evil and horrible man!! Especially when he believed his drug dealing gangster dad ‘loves him’.
i was beaten. belts, plugs, hanger by my own dad also burnt
i Remeber he had a metal ladle (big spoon) burnt it till it scalding hot and was shouting at us. he didnt touch me with it. used to scare the shit outta me.
When i complain to my other relatives theyd say he has "High blood sugar" etc
i dont talk to him anymore. and gladly. i stay outta his life. he stays out of mines
never going to torture my kids, but i will discipline them
That was hard to watch.
I bet his dad was once an innocent child who was betrayed and abused by someone that was supposed to love him unconditionally as well.
It's so heartbreaking to think that we all start out with the same innocence, and that some folks' lives are shaped by that innocence being stolen away at the hands of abuse. Marvin could have easily ended up like his father, and this video shows that he started down that path. Perhaps if this video had been made 15 or 20 years ago we'd be calling Marvin evil and horrible.
Everyone has a story, and our perception of them often depends on which chapter we're reading. The actions of Marvin's father were reprehensible, but it's important to remember that in the end we're all just people who sometimes make mistakes. I like to think that a little bit of understanding and compassion for your fellow man, despite those mistakes, can help break those cycles of violence and make the world a better place.
His Dad was well known around Harlesden. I knew guys who used to buy weed off his Dad , I don’t think they would have known he was like the way he was.
@@SherKhan-rd9uw bro belts plugs and hangers are normal beating tools as a parent thas wut mah momma use jus tha burning part abuse but eer thing else cuh naw dat shi normal
Marvin Herbert is a true soldier, he suffered PTSD since childhood. He saw a lot of violence and I’m glad he survived a lot of madness 😔
I could listen to this bloke tell stories all day. And I don’t even mean criminal stuff - he could ad-Lib his way through a Mr Men book for all I care. He’s a natural storyteller. Glad he’s doing better, and I hope he gets good things in his new life.
Was about to comment this, hope he finds his peace in life.
Have you heard his full podcast on Anything Goes with James English? (It’s on UA-cam)
@@leeannsheridan4380 nope, but I’ll have to check that out!
Best bit for me: “I thought I was in heaven. And I thought… Bollocks!”
@@steveharrison76 His story is really captivating, Marvin Herbert is his full name it’s probably one of my all time favourite podcasts. I hope you enjoy it 😊
This shit makes me realise how privileged I am and how my childhood was so much better than I originally thought
Because u had a normal upbringing?
Just coz u didn’t live a extremely unprivileged life like this guy, that doesn’t make living an average life privileged.
Glad you realised, some many people are so privileged they don’t even realise their own privilege, privileged people live in bubbles
This shit made me realize how normal my childhood was despite me having to argue daily with my drunk dad because my mom was mentally drained and mentally beaten. There was no crime or drugs, no "rich privilege" or friends. There was however bullying at school by literally everyone for years on end.
Yet, i had roof over my head, i always had food, little bit of toys and i knew, absolutely knew that my mom loved me and dad kinda appreciated me because biology.
There is no either/or, rich/poor, privileged/underprivileged switch. It's a spectrum, we all are spread around there with different backgrounds.
privileged is such a shitty term nowadays because its veered so far off-course. It's like saying this guy is privileged as fuck because he only got shot as opposed to starving and becoming a child soldier of an African Warlord because of a civil war in Rwanda or something, it's not really a good measurement at all.
I love these videos so much
My guy sharky
alr lad
Sharky
Love you sharky
Sharky, what you doing here? 🤣 Joking bro. Love from Coventry bro
The amount this man has been through is mind boggling, no child deserves even a fraction of this man’s traumatic youth…I wish this man all the best in life.
They need to make a film about Marvin's life story.
For real.
100 percent.. Would be a good film as well
They did it's called 'top boy'
@@jamesnorth7318 That’s widely different
The met 👮♀️ probably have 😆
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@@25kgplantsmake1kgbeefmosts4 your comment is not even related to this video and you are trying to persuade others to fall in with your own beliefs, do yourself a favour and dissappear
Till it isnt
"One of mankind's greatest longings is complete freedom. One of mankind's greatest limitations is the inability to ever truly be free. We want the frictionless state of our origins. We want the autonomy of a god. We want the sea of reality to part at the whim of our fluctuating, individual will. We want, like is so often the case, what we cannot have. Of course, there are many different types of freedom, and there are many layers and nuances within each type, but arguably, absolute freedom, the existential sort, in wich one is able to do, feel and choose what one wants how and when they see fit without any kind of coercion, restraint or imposition, this is the ideal of freedom that drives the passionate pursuit of all other forms, and perhaps, at least to some large extent, all human activity in general. However in the final analysis, this ultimate endgame of freedom appears to be an incoherent impossibility.
At the top of the pyramid of freedom, even an individual who is lucky enough to have unfastend all material and societal shackles remains unfree, restricted and told what to do, when to do it, and why to do it. This individual, of course possessing one of the most basic freedoms, physical freedom, can move their body around the world as they please. But in just this fist layer of analysis, obvious restrictions are found. Of course, that can only move according to how their body does and can, and can only move through and with the body. We generally do not see the body as a ball and chain because we associate parts of who we are with it and only know of existence trough it, but it takes more than a sick stomach or migraine headache to realize just how heavy this corporal weight is, how stricken to and limited by it we are.
We are stuck inside, captives to it, subject to its faulty and fragile mechanisms that do and will break, keeping us bound in space according to its condition until it finally turns itself off, and us with it, unpreventably. And more yet, our body controls much of what we choose to do with it, how we move it, where we move it, and why. Being told when to eat, when to go to the bathroom, when to sleep, when to wake up, that is the daily routine of a prisoner, not a free man. Of course, one can decide to temporarily resist their bodily urges, and not eat or sleep and so forth, momentarily experiencing a fleeting distinction between mind and body. But it takes very little time for the conspiracy between the mind and body to reveal itself, the mental sensations corollary to the body's state soon compelling the individual to behave accordingly and get in line. This, of course, is just physical issues, though.
Psychologically, abstractly, the individual is also able to think and consider everything beyond the mere urges and physical conditions of their body and environment. This much is true, but isn't our relationship with the mind in the realm of thought ultimately the same as our physical relationship with the body? We can only think through our mind, and we can only think in the way our mind thinks. We are given one lens of the world wit hb one type of software running on one type of hardware to process all that we intake and experience. If an artist was commissioned for a job and told that they were free to make anyrthing they wanted, but were then told it must be on an etch-a-sketch, would they really be free to make anything they wanted? Only in some sense. In truth, the freest of persons are free to think and see things how they choose, but only as long as it is with words that exist, through concepts that have been construed, in a brain that has been built, with respect to an environment that has been experienced, all moved by the laws of the natural world.
Our mind's abilities are its constraints and its constraints inform us what to think and see. Each condition of the brain working in relation to the world like levees and dams controlling the flow of thought, each thought emerging out of the cause-and-effect ripples on the surface of its unending self-orchestrated flow. We are caught in this movement, swept away uncontrollably without ever choosing where we started from and where we go. Being compelled what to think and how to see is the report of an indoctrination, not a free man. It is a demonstration of humanity's overzealous ego and anthropocenticism to think that so long as no other humans tell then what to do they are free.
Man should undoubtedly strive, fight for, and protect all their earthly freedoms within the physical, social, economic, and political domains of the world. But if and once he has, the remaining unsatisfied existential freedom, of wich he will continue to drink and run and lust and love to try to attain, perhaps requires a different kind of consideration. The closest thing to absolute existential freedom, it seems, is freedom from freedom itself, freedom from the constraints that the concept of freedom imposes. Being totally existantially free or unfree implies being a defined, separate thing that can be contained or inhabited by some other thing.
"A human being is a part of the whole, called by us "universe", a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. The striving to free oneself from this delusion is the one issue of true [religiosity]. Not to nourish it but to try to overcome it is the way to reach the attainable measure of peace of mind." Albert Einstein"
@@25kgplantsmake1kgbeefmosts4 I mean it isn’t really relevant is it
This dude is INTENSE man. Real life GTA character.
Sir frank
Looks like Franklin, acts like Trevor 😂
@@KringoGG 😂😂
@half gamer yes nah
Live the life, then you won't find it funny
From a gangster to an art directer, my heart warms up for this man ❤❤
"I'm free, there is nothing better than being free"
-Marvin Herbert
The ending…”nothing better than being free lad!!”…FACTS!!!
3:09 that made me so unbelievably sad.
A wonderful human being...Strong, righteous, loyal.... to think that his life was shaped into THIS by his parents makes me sick to the stomach.
Righteous is a bit of a stretch
crazy you know him so well from a 30 minute video 😅
Fast judgement not good for you.
@@badmagik8957 lmao why y’all comin to a 3 month old comment to be negative for no reason
@@stankyknutz unfortunately sometimes people are just a**holes
This guy is awesome, but also terrifying. He's like a coiled spring.
He really is an authentic character
Watch the episode if James’ podcast with him on it. Powerful stuff
@@xmikeox like he could snap at anytime
A coiled spring 😂😂
he will be back inside soon
Not even 5 minutes in and I'm EXHAUSTED! Sad to think this isn't an isolated case. How many kids are brought up like this only to be dismissed at every turn. Thank you for your story.
This is an amazing interview. I totally understand what he’s saying. As a recovered addict who’s now a teacher with a family-this is so touching. Bring out of that life, having money for vacations, having time to appreciate small things like a stable house.. I feel this in a big way
Good for you
that's amazing. having a stable home is no small thing, in my opinion. wishing you all the best
Glad to see you're doing better!
Recovering* everyone can always fall back to it
What an incredible story teller. You can just tell by his mannerisms and the way he speaks that he ain’t cappin. Glad he survived, was able to turn his life around and is now helping others.
It was the fucked up face that proved he ain’t cappin for me
I love how unafraid Lad Bible is to show all the parts of the human experience. They interview people that have experienced so many different types of pain, joys, losses, and gains, and it’s so interesting to watch. Thank you, Marvin, for being so vulnerable, and thank you Lad Bible for giving him and others opportunities to tell their raw stories.
Perfect example of why you should never judge other people, you simply don't know what they have been through.
“Your closest people are the only ones that can hurt you” damn is that not relatable
Keep ur friends close and ur enemies closer.
not true at all though is it 🤣
To me it is. I'm sure it is to more people than you'd like to think.
Its very true. Those closest to us hurt us the most
this is true....
@21:18
Interviewer: 'you're trying to help people'
Marv: 'I DO'
Interviewer: 'YOU DO.... please dont kill me'
Thats when the fun stops..
@@mrjones272 😂😂🤣
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What a story teller! wish I has I had a fraction of this man's energy and intensity, its impossible not to lose yourself along with him in what he's saying.
This guy has some serious skills when he tells a story. He's so passionate and expressive, I could listen to him read my laundry machine instruction book and I'd be REALLY listening
I loved hearing his genuine joy at the end talking about getting mail to his house, etc. It was with the same passion, just the opposite emotion, as when he spoke of his dad hurting him. It's humbling.
This guy has done horrible things. But he is incredibly likeable.
I’m glad he is living a live he is happy with and helping people.
The people who kill for no reason and have no conscience are the ones I cannot forgive. This man, however, I believe he deserves this new life. At least it was gang related and not innocent people.
You absolute bellend 😂😂😂
Good people do bad things. Bad people do good things. alot of people just have it hard which leads to them being the way they are.
@@neverleft636 there’s no such thing as killing for no reason.
@@ValosRR Interesting, what about random incidents like a car crash?
As a father, this hit me hard. Wanted to give him a hug immediately
I keep coming back to this video just to hear him tell the story about his father.. I can relate to the anger and the strong emotions . I feel like there’s a bottled up anger that I am so scared of when thinking about my father and when I listen to this it helps me relate and know I’m not the only one who feels this way
me too man, hope you're doing good fam.
Stay strong, while others go low, go high, aim for the stars T.416. Don't let it define you or wreck your chance at peace and happiness. That would be a win from something you can't change, only move forward from as best you can. ❤
Honestly, I need some serious help.. I feel like I can’t talk to no one about the issues I’m having inside my head.. I don’t know who else to go to.. when I posted this original comment I was drinking that night.. I am also drinking again tonight.. I am aware I am using the alcohol as a escape for the pain… but I cannot help it. When I was younger as a teen I looked myself in the mirror everyday and told myself I was ready to die out on the streets cause I was doing dumb shit.. I had no emotions what so ever and felt like nothing bothered me.. now that I grew up and have my own family a lot of this shit is bugging me.. me trying to be the best father I can be and not having a relationship with my father I see all the time when visiting my mom.. he is there but not there at the same time which kills me inside.. I learned how to be a man alone.. and made a shit ton of mistakes along the way and I am happy the way I turned out but I have no fuckin idea why I have so much fuckijng anger built up.. I feel like a ticking time bomb waiting to go off ready to explode.. my family relies on me to feed them and be a man so I cannot show my emotions and be weak.. I feel like a boulder is weighing on me and I don’t know what to do
@@t.4166 yeah man I used to feel like that, but at some point you have to realize that you can't deal with everything alone. I was once at the darkest point in my life where I felt very alone, as if i had no purpose or added no value to this world. All it took was 1 conversation with someone very near and dear to my heart to convince me not to take my own life. Speaking about your emotions and being true and open with your family, especially your wife, is the most manly thing you can do. Forcing yourself to struggle alone until you eventually crack isn't the mindset a man who wants to be able to provide for his kids for the rest of his life should have. and that last statement isn't a guilt trip I just said that so you could realize that your kids and family need you yes, but not only monetarily my friend. Please talk about your issues before it's too late, I really wish the best for you.
my father was very much of the mindset that he had to deal with everything by himself, and these days he's relaxed a little due to old age but for over 50 years he was a very very angry man, had little self control, and effectively ruined his relationships with all his children, he's just very lucky that we are all forgiving. But I still love him very much and it's because we know that those around us aren't perfect, and we don't expect perfectionism, the people around you love you for who you are, not what you bring to the table. Please remember that. Don't make the same mistakes my father did, things like that trickle down generations. Talk to your wife or friends or whoever, and try to focus on your kids more and the positive in life and I swear things will get better.
That was heartbreaking. The seeds of pain, anger, hatred, crime and sociopathy are planted in the home.
I hope and pray that this brother is able to stay away from that life and that he may find love and peace so that he may enjoy the rest of his life. No one should ever have to go through this.
That is a masterpiece. You could swim in that honesty. Better than any hollywood dialogue for me and real.
🙏🏽
Two great people were named Marvin and had daddy issues. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
@@marvinherbert Brother, just realized you were the guy in the video. Just wanna say I'm a big fan and literally my favorite quote is “In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king”
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Him in an uncut gems style Guy Ritchie movie would be orgasmic
The passion is insane, every teenager in this country needs to hear this.
And how do you think parents of middle class background, parents who don't let their 20 year old son to go alone anywhere, let alone the local shops; due to fear of potentially being mugged by a homeless person...???
Would parents of such, allow their teenage offsprings be exposed to such characters with the background of this guest speaker!
@@originalunoriginal4055 who’s middle class parents don’t let them go to shop 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@MB-lb3zy "my names is orignal unoriginal and im 32 and cant leave my parents house" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes. Every teen needs to kill at least 24.
@@ileryon4019 ofc not my dude but they need to hear his story.
Max respect to him for confronting and apologising to his victims, for turning his life around, and mentoring and helping everyone that he does.
People who are judging him haven't had a parent beat the the everloving shit out of them and had their hand cooked when they were 8 and it shows.
@Bravo Diaz 007 this is someone else's life and situation and they are completely different and handled it differently. I'm sorry but most who've been through situations like this don't handle it well they go through a lot of pain suffering and w**** in their adult life and if they are deemed as decent to society God knows what the hell they're doing behind closed doors
So true
I always dislike when people say some people have had it hard d and don’t do this 🇬🇧🤨
@Bravo Diaz 007 well so has he that is what he has done I think it was the only life he knew.
You can't compare two different peoples' experiences. What you are literally saying is you think he's fucked up for not being stronger against abuse and trauma? Man, f*^$ you.
''I could drive.. but only in 1st and 2nd gear'' That Fucking killed me LOL
It rings true as well. Once I heard a car screaming along and could just see a kids head popping over the steering wheel. It was doing about 30mph in 2nd.
I’m right there, heard him say it and immediately buckled had to shoot to the comments😂😂😂
"i love you you love me why are you burning my hand" pulled a tear thats so heartbreaking
What an interview..Putting trust in your parents and being let down by the people you love most moulds your life forever.. Marvin what a guy you are mind
I met this guy in real life he lives near me he’s such a down to earth bloke and I respect him so much telling things how it is
Cap
@@matthewmoore3557 silence matthew
@@wafflelover39 Naaa
@@wafflelover39 naaaaaa
@@matthewmoore3557 no cap mate he lives around Kingston area greater London and he came in for a talk at a local university
His answer to the regret question at 21:32 really struck me. Ironic that so many kids get involved in gangs and criminality for the love, respect and loyalty, yet this guy's experience shows the reality of that is the complete opposite. Never really heard anyone come at it from that angle before.
Wasn't so much the answer itself for me, it was the reaction on his face. His lips quivered, almost as if he had prepared himself for the question but hearing it aloud just broke him for an instant
The part that got me the most (humorously) was 17:43 when he recounts that he thought he was in heaven and says "Bollocks!" out of frustration. Such a light exclamation compared to the actual consequence of having died.
An incredible character, this is a man who's worth listening to. Honesty is what matters, being honest with ourselves about what drives us to make the decisions we make through life.
The mental strength to go through all of that and come out of the other side relatively normal is just incredible. Such respect for Marv
Jesus what a poor bloke. The shoplifting story genuinely affected me more than any video I’ve watched.
Sympathy is the last thing this dude he should get. Multiple dead people because of him. But, his story his life is horrible.
@@richiejbhoy1888 The fact you can say this about marvin is sick. The guy was a product of his surroundings and now he is making a change, but you wouldnt understand that as youve probably been spoon fed your entire life
@@jackclay6597 incorrect Jack. We make our choices. We must live with them. Victims all over the place.
@Mister Lister Jack feels sorry for a killer because he had a rough childhood.
@@jackclay6597 hes a product of his environment but that doesnt mean he wasnt a monster
This man is the greatest story teller ever, very captivating
I love this guy! So honest, terrifying, fragile, tough, funny. This planet creates some unique characters. I’m so happy he has found peace after such a crappy start in life.
This guy deserves a medal. Where he came from and what he became is remarkable. He'll never get recognized for what he does, but I appreciate it. He has made more of an impact than me and I didn't have it anywhere near as worse.
What a unbelievable person. This guy has done it all, sad to hear about how his dad treated him. Shows you can turn any life around if you want to!
Don it all?
@@profile2047 been shot,stabbed, shot and stabbed people. Sold drugs, alleged murder. What hasn’t he done in the criminal world. He even has done over 20 years in prison throughout his life
Now that is a guy that doesn't scream for daddy!
Hearing the sound of his voice when talking about his father, i could tell he was definitely deeply hurt by that kind of abuse. I feel sorry he had to go thru that, no kid should ever have to experience that and you can tell it fucked him up.
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This guy came and spoke to a few of us a my school a few years back, what a guy honestly. He really impacted us at the time and showed us this kind of life really isn’t worth living.
Dude I'm from Philadelphia,Pa. I've seen killings drug overdoses and brutal injuries that would make your head explode. This is the craziest story of a man's life that I've ever listened to. I've been stabbed, shot and, hit by a truck and an off duty fire fighter revived me. I woke up 5 days later in Jefferson hospital. I've also had numerous drug overdoses from opiates and benzos. This man's story was absolutely mind blowing. I would love to have a beer with this man. 🍻 Cheers mate!
Man I could listen to this geezer talk all day, He’d be a perfect Joe Rogan guest.
yes
He’s done many podcasts
@@xMAGIKZ whats his name
@@jamiekennedy8913 Marvin herbert
He would be mint but unfortunately obviously isn’t allowed in the states. He’s got some more longer podcast’s on James english & Shaun attwoods channel
the scar lays within forever.. emotional scar and physical scar..the way hes talk really hes walking through past
god man, as someone who’s father was also physically abusive and who’s family was broken and poor i know that feeling so well. i wish he had never gone through it, but in a way it’s nice to know you’re not alone. i’m glad he’s alive and i’m glad he got the chance to tell his story and show the environment that leads someone down that path
Incredible story brov, I can’t believe all them things that this life has put you through…
I’m happy to hear you describe your current life and I love to know that you’re helping others.
There definitely is a tone of kindness behind all this hatred.
Thank you for sharing a tiny bit of your life with all of us 🙏🏼
Marvin Herbert. A criminal who once was at the top of the tree at his game in Crime. I've followed him for ages and why I love the guy is because he totally changed his life around and now is at the top of his game for good and helping others and is an inspiration to anybody that wants to change in life. He is as real as it gets and he has helped me from watching his videos to change my habits too. Thanks Marv top man.
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Where in London is he from? Do you know where i could learn more about him?
he is an incredible story teller, like to the point where you are right there with him because of how well he describes it
Marvin's story is class, solid bloke
@Harry Talks mistakes don't define someone, also if you do some research on him he's doing alot off good
@Harry Talks are you like 12 wtf is this bait
@@HUNGRY4EGGS unfortunately I fell for it hook line and sinker 😂
@Harry Talks darren gee has him shook . Nothing but a crack head
@@chrisgibbon5736 what’s his full name
What an absolutely genuine man. I've heard so many talk themselves up like they're the kings of the streets and they can't be stopped. This man has the sense of mind to admit that he used to be one of those guys, and now he finds happiness in even just getting mail with his name on it. If you still think you're a badass, I'd recommend rewatching the video.
sad thing is
this most likely happens/happened to so many more others who suffer in silence and how frustrating it must be not to be able to express their feelings as well as this man can and get purely judged on how they turned out in life
At some point, it’s a choice.
mental health is so important. despite many people being willing to write off other human's lives, this video proves rehabilitation is possible.
Yh suffered in silence days off school with black eyes at 7-8y old scared of the violence every Friday scared kid ashamed to bring friends and gf back cos we had a shithole flat no carpet or Lino.. scared wat mood he goona be in coming back from betting shop.. but it taught me I’ve a son who was 23y last week he has a nice hse we had dream family holidays Disney Florida twice I allways hug him and tell him I love him every day. He’s never had and never saw any violence in the home we are proud of that. My dad taught me u dnt make ur own kid terrified of ya.. I grew up with Marvin mad ain’t t it a few of us had shit upbringings
@@ItsJustRyan89 Yes, but it doesn’t make the right choice easy growing up the way they did
@@ItsJustRyan89 it’s not a choice man. I’ve seen it first hand, lost an uncle to the street life, and now his sons are playing the same game. Sometimes this hard life chooses you man, and there’s nothing you can do about it, as much as we try to help them out.
“It was just a normal childhood being beaten, abounded and neglected”
The fact this dude thinks that is normal just proves how bad his childhood was
Nah what it proves is that most of the people in his social circle had similar experiences, which shows you just how wide spread the problem is
He was being sarcastic
@@jwwr8408 no he wasn’t being sarcastic, the dude just isn’t aware his childhood was abysmal compared to an actual normal childhood.
He meant like normal for a bad childhood basically the streiotipical shit childhood
he was being sarcastic
This guy is such a strong person. Sometimes when someone with mental health problems goes through something traumatic on top of that, it can cause an all out loss in interest and living and extreme problems keeping a normal house. Hearing all these stories make me wonder why these woman and men raised these kids like this and didnt as for help
it's because they were doing and selling drugs man. Got involved with some dodgy shit.
Keeping weed illegal only keeps it in the hands of criminals. Legalisation means less crime. But i guess nobody cares about that kinda stuff when it's nearly the year 2022 and nobody gives a shit about your society because the government ain't done fucking up the policies for hundreds of thousands of people
This man is insanely interesting and easy to listen & relate to, wish him all the best in his life.
These kind of interviews really don’t need bleeps.
@Jacob Scrivener UA-cam are phasing out all swearing and violence anyway... Gonna ruin it but that's the future.
@@jackwatson3944 UA-cam is able to phase these things out because someone doesn't make a better platform. That is not the future if you or someone else makes a platform that isn't as shit as UA-cam is that can have reasonable community guidelines that aim to keep high quality content without censoring things.
well they need to make money off this video to continue making them and youtube realllyy dislikes swearing. They wont monetize on the slightest bit of cursing so deal with it, you're getting great interviews for the cost of bleeped curse words
Ponsy “Lad”Bible doesn’t think it’s audience are mature enough for swear words
@@Pmccaff2009 true that's why they feature stories from survivors of genocide, rape victims, sex workers, addice, former killers, etc.
This Is Heart Breaking.
Behind every story of child abuse is a person with these kinds of stories.
"I'M NOT TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE, I DO HELP THEM!" I love when he says that.
Massive respect to this man this is one of the most powerful stories I've ever heard it's really nice to know that he's turned his life around
Anybody who has led that mad life and somehow turns it round is the real deal. Yeah Marvin your an inspiration to people who are wrapped up in the crazy world of crime. Keep up the good work mate.
The anger in his face after saying:" why would you do this to me?" No child should have to endure that and no person should have to live with that boiling anger
He was mostly reenacting what he felt like at the time
it’s a lot of us like this but if you not from that lifestyle you’ll never know
phenomenal interview. this man is an amazing storyteller. when he is telling the story you can tell he brings himself right back to that moment.
I may see marvin in a new light because if this… I was born in prison then abandoned .. ended up beaten abused repeatedly raped as a kid and addicted to butane gas at 8 years of age, addicted to crack at 17..life didn’t go well for me.. I’ve done 20 years in and out if prison …I’m now clean as i promised myself I wouldn’t die in prison.
Definitely. It’s sad that it takes hearing someone’s dark side to see the light tho, i Cant relate with murder but I can relate with everything that leads to that dilemma.
Peace to your soul
god bless you brother!
@@yungalm1ghtyvevo586 thank you very much x
@@Lsbdg21 God bless you too for your kind words x
I love the way he tells his story!! He is a good story teller! He turned out to be an amazing man!!!!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
By far one of the best interviews I've watched, could have listened for hours!
Amazing to see this guy completely turn his life around.
The fact he had the screwed up life he had but still turned his life around and tried his best to ask/beg for forgiveness to the ones he hurt is something to be proud just to listen to him admiting that
Turned his life around he’s threatening to kill and blow up family members homes
He's clearly a genuine bloke and that goes such a long way, especially now he's helping others. This is why focusing on rehabilitation in prison is also important rather than just locking people up and throwing away the key. I understand he didn't go straight because of prison but he's shown that people CAN change and so focusing on that with prisoners should be a big priority