Great tips but as a lefty I really wish instructors would use the terms "lead" or "trail" rather than right or left when referencing a specific side of the body in the swing. It takes no more effort and makes the lesson work for both right and left handed players.
It does... But the problem is if you drop your body towards the ball if you dont do it properly. that's what happened to me I was doing wrong so this is a greaat tip but hard to perform
good video Monte; could you explain the shoulder turn in relation to distance? Players like Tony Finau or (going back) Doug Sanders who had short swings and less than 90 degrees (at least it looks that way on camera), or Moe Norman who said if he had to have more distance he'd just make a bigger turn, thanks
Nobody explains it as clear as Monte. Thank you!! I've been trying to solve my EE problems with all sorts of drills (butt up against a wall, chair, whatever is around) but when I go back to swinging a golf club, the EE is there again. No one ever explained that the ROOT cause is my too flat shoulder turn and then trying to move the club from the inside on the through swing by dropping my right shoulder down into my right hip. Terrific stuff Monte....a big thank you from a former chronic EEer.
As a player who went from an index of 10 to 4, I can confidently say that if you focus on shoulder turn and plane, you will strike the ball better and more consistently.
There is no such thing as turn with the shoulders. They move laterally on the coronal plane, the only plane that turns is the Sagittal plane and all the body parts move laterally on the coronal plane.
Fantastic. "The dreaded early extension": very few pros talks about shoulder plane when it comes to this problem. Always about squatting. Of course a combination. But shoulder plane is absolutely underrated. Thanks Monte, you are one of the best teaching professionals. :-)
Fixed my gf swing instantly from constantly hitting weak grounders to nice high irons and got rid of my terrible shanks as of late, instantly. This guy is definitely the best as far as getting right to the point without silly drills that don't work Amazing!.
This solves a lot of issues for me...when I have this feel I strike the ball great...its a weird feeling it almost feels like my head moves in front of the golf ball on backswing (but on camera that doesnt happen, I think it's my mind just "feeling" like its moving forward because my left shoulder moving underneath makes it appear that way...all I know is when I make impact my head is behind the ball still so it must not have moved
After watching this is seems like a good cue would be to turn in a way that allows you to get your trail shoulder back to/down the ball the easiest way possible. Not by going flat to ott and not from going 90* and under. I would assume a feeling of the shoulders turning in the same plane back and through would be good? As long as the right shoulder get to the ball on plane?
Monte, another great video here. Lots of good info. When you refer to keeping the spine tilt away from the target as you start your lower body forward is this what is called "secondary tilt"? Thanks
A proper shoulder turn is very tough on the forward swing.Easy enough to get right on the backswing but the forward swing with a club and hitting a ball....VERY difficult! I imagine it could take years to get right.
With grip stance etc. decent, This description is the real SECRET of the golf swing. This understanding and modification turns mediocre hits to great speed and contact. One thing I had to do to get the shoulders turned down to the ball area in the swing was adjust my spine angle down more while maintaining balance. Thanks a million for the explanation.
I played in college at Texas many years ago, and I've been to many/most (?) of the "great" instructors, but Monte is in a very rare class of golf knowledge. He seeks the truth, tests it empirically, and finds the true reason why x or y happens in a swing, and finds most often, the root case is not to fix the "fault", but to fix what is causing the "fault". AND, that the "fault" is nearly always your subconscious working at near light speed, to direct your body to save the shot. Well done Monte!
Great instruction. I went to the range yesterday before I saw your video and I finally realized the reason I was losing power and accuracy, was an incomplete, rushed backswing. Your video solidified the proper visualization.
Hi Monty, been following you for a long time....good stuff. I do have a question on the "tilt through impact". If I understand you, you said to rotate your lower body while keeping your upper body behind the ball...." that will create tilt". In an earlier video you explained the need to synch the upper and lower body...can you explain this a bit further to clear up any confusion I might have.
Thanks Monte, This is " the missing link." It seemed obvious when I seen this video, that it would be good, but when I tried this at the range I couldn`t believe how well everything came together. Rod -- Sydney Australia
After hearing this, I think a simple goal in a swing is combining your advice about having the right shoulder moving towards the ball and getting the left arm away from the body as soon as possible. Do you agree?
During the BS. the arms get turned back by the shoulders as they lift vertically. Done correctly (ie. Tiger Woods, pros) why would they get too deep behind you? At around 4 minutes in, while turning back with more level shoulders, one choice that you didn't mention is this -> Don't actively turn the shoulders around, but instead pull the hips forward a little and then left hip joint over left ankle, while keeping the back to the target. Arms move down and over right leg for release. Works great!
Im pretty sure Ive always had a flat turn. If I try and do what he says then my weight is far too much on back foot through impact. So I think im missing something in what he is saying
Thanks Monte! I think this could be a break-through in my swing. my shoulder plane looks a bit off in videos i took but I could not point out exactly what it is. Can't wait to hit the driving range and try this out and make it work.
This is something I've been working on the last couple of months and my iron strikes have improved tremendously. Harder to ingrain for me with longer clubs at this point. The "right shoulder to the ball" thought doesn't personally work for me, instead I think of "left shoulder to the sky"
Thanks Monte! You made me realize I was too parallel on the backswing and that was causing my over the top. Hitting it much more consistently now. Thanks for keeping the tips clear and easy to understand!
Yo Monte. I've never heard you mention "turning your back to the target". I often attempt to move the lower body laterally while keeping my back to the target as long as possible. Good move or not?
great video. this "too horizontal" of a shoulder turn can only be fixed with drills at home. And it will hurt if you've never done it properly. Your body won't want to do it. It's a great winter project. again great video.
I've worked on this, without a range session but mostly inside the room using a club across my chess. But it tremendously helped! I really need to slow down my swing just to have it in effect but this, one of the fundamentals of golf, I believe, is largely overlooked. Great video Monte! Cheers, Amir from Malaysia.
Very nice and straightforward video that coincides with what I've been trying to put together feel wise for myself lately, with a pro. You explained it perfectly. For me, the spine tilt was a missing part. I would still tend to rise up before impact otherwise. Thanks!
Hi Monte. great visual demonstration of the shoulder turn. The extended direction rods really illustrates how the turn should be accomplished especially on the downswing and follow through. Thank You.
I disagree totally. Put the club on your right shoulder at address and then coil into your right instep. There is absolutely zero rotation unless your bent over picking up soap in prison. This type of rotation Monte is advocating makes for alot of manipulation independent of core and miss hits when timing is off.
I should also add that 90% of golfers with an 8 handicap or higher do not have the spine or hip mobility to maintain these postures through impact. I see you do, either through training or natural flexibility. It wasn't until I started working on mobility (foam rollers, dynamic stretches etc) that I could even contemplate this. Do you have suggestions for golfers to improve their hip and spine mobility? Otherwise, they could certainly end up with back pain forcing themselves into these positions
Great tips but as a lefty I really wish instructors would use the terms "lead" or "trail" rather than right or left when referencing a specific side of the body in the swing. It takes no more effort and makes the lesson work for both right and left handed players.
I wonder how many people went straight to the mirror when he said "turning your right should to the ball solves lots of problems."
It does... But the problem is if you drop your body towards the ball if you dont do it properly. that's what happened to me I was doing wrong so this is a greaat tip but hard to perform
good video Monte; could you explain the shoulder turn in relation to distance? Players like Tony Finau or (going back) Doug Sanders who had short swings and less than 90 degrees (at least it looks that way on camera), or Moe Norman who said if he had to have more distance he'd just make a bigger turn, thanks
Nobody explains it as clear as Monte. Thank you!! I've been trying to solve my EE problems with all sorts of drills (butt up against a wall, chair, whatever is around) but when I go back to swinging a golf club, the EE is there again. No one ever explained that the ROOT cause is my too flat shoulder turn and then trying to move the club from the inside on the through swing by dropping my right shoulder down into my right hip. Terrific stuff Monte....a big thank you from a former chronic EEer.
Yup .... Few if any current teachers explain the golf swing like Monte. He's so comfortable in his own skin, a legit golfing gem.
+Chris Mani No doubt about it. Best videos on youtube
As a player who went from an index of 10 to 4, I can confidently say that if you focus on shoulder turn and plane, you will strike the ball better and more consistently.
I DO NOT like back to target. It causes people to over rotate and reverse tilt. I am writing an article for GolfWrx on just this subject next month.
But during golf swing you do not have a stick so how do u know how much to turn in relation to spine?
If there's a "secret" or "magic move" then this is it.
There is no such thing as turn with the shoulders. They move laterally on the coronal plane, the only plane that turns is the Sagittal plane and all the body parts move laterally on the coronal plane.
Fantastic. "The dreaded early extension": very few pros talks about shoulder plane when it comes to this problem. Always about squatting. Of course a combination. But shoulder plane is absolutely underrated. Thanks Monte, you are one of the best teaching professionals. :-)
Fixed my gf swing instantly from constantly hitting weak grounders to nice high irons and got rid of my terrible shanks as of late, instantly. This guy is definitely the best as far as getting right to the point without silly drills that don't work Amazing!.
This solves a lot of issues for me...when I have this feel I strike the ball great...its a weird feeling it almost feels like my head moves in front of the golf ball on backswing (but on camera that doesnt happen, I think it's my mind just "feeling" like its moving forward because my left shoulder moving underneath makes it appear that way...all I know is when I make impact my head is behind the ball still so it must not have moved
After watching this is seems like a good cue would be to turn in a way that allows you to get your trail shoulder back to/down the ball the easiest way possible. Not by going flat to ott and not from going 90* and under. I would assume a feeling of the shoulders turning in the same plane back and through would be good? As long as the right shoulder get to the ball on plane?
Should the right shoulder be pointing at the ball at the moment of impact?
Is it easier to pull your right shoulder back to pull the left shoulder to the ball...
I agree, it is the magic move. Fantastic Monte. Your videos have saved my sanity.
Monte, another great video here. Lots of good info. When you refer to keeping the spine tilt away from the target as you start your lower body forward is this what is called "secondary tilt"? Thanks
unbelievable.... I never caught this in my own swing videos. Watching this the light has gone on!
A proper shoulder turn is very tough on the forward swing.Easy enough to get right on the backswing but the forward swing with a club and hitting a ball....VERY difficult! I imagine it could take years to get right.
Monte your a Genius been looking for a good shoulder turn video this explains everything im gonna watching this again and again!
With grip stance etc. decent, This description is the real SECRET of the golf swing. This understanding and modification turns mediocre hits to great speed and contact. One thing I had to do to get the shoulders turned down to the ball area in the swing was adjust my spine angle down more while maintaining balance. Thanks a million for the explanation.
I played in college at Texas many years ago, and I've been to many/most (?) of the "great" instructors, but Monte is in a very rare class of golf knowledge. He seeks the truth, tests it empirically, and finds the true reason why x or y happens in a swing, and finds most often, the root case is not to fix the "fault", but to fix what is causing the "fault". AND, that the "fault" is nearly always your subconscious working at near light speed, to direct your body to save the shot. Well done Monte!
Great video, thank you!
Good stuff, Monte.
Great instruction. I went to the range yesterday before I saw your video and I finally realized the reason I was losing power and accuracy, was an incomplete, rushed backswing. Your video solidified the proper visualization.
Might be a 9 year old video but something in my brain just clicked with your explanation and advice. Thanks.
Hi Monty, been following you for a long time....good stuff. I do have a question on the "tilt through impact". If I understand you, you said to rotate your lower body while keeping your upper body behind the ball...." that will create tilt". In an earlier video you explained the need to synch the upper and lower body...can you explain this a bit further to clear up any confusion I might have.
From 5:02 on...pure gold
Thanks Monte, This is " the missing link." It seemed obvious when I seen this video, that it would be good, but when I tried this at the range I couldn`t believe how well everything came together. Rod -- Sydney Australia
After hearing this, I think a simple goal in a swing is combining your advice about having the right shoulder moving towards the ball and getting the left arm away from the body as soon as possible. Do you agree?
Another necessary part of the golf swing expert demonstration.Thank You
During the BS. the arms get turned back by the shoulders as they lift vertically. Done correctly (ie. Tiger Woods, pros) why would they get too deep behind you? At around 4 minutes in, while turning back with more level shoulders, one choice that you didn't mention is this -> Don't actively turn the shoulders around, but instead pull the hips forward a little and then left hip joint over left ankle, while keeping the back to the target. Arms move down and over right leg for release. Works great!
Great visual
Im pretty sure Ive always had a flat turn. If I try and do what he says then my weight is far too much on back foot through impact. So I think im missing something in what he is saying
Nice larry. that is what i hope people will do. Personalize the information.
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Thanks Monte! I think this could be a break-through in my swing. my shoulder plane looks a bit off in videos i took but I could not point out exactly what it is. Can't wait to hit the driving range and try this out and make it work.
This is something I've been working on the last couple of months and my iron strikes have improved tremendously. Harder to ingrain for me with longer clubs at this point. The "right shoulder to the ball" thought doesn't personally work for me, instead I think of "left shoulder to the sky"
Thanks Monte! You made me realize I was too parallel on the backswing and that was causing my over the top. Hitting it much more consistently now. Thanks for keeping the tips clear and easy to understand!
I’ve seen this video a couple times but like hogan said “this will take intelligent application.”
Yo Monte. I've never heard you mention "turning your back to the target". I often attempt to move the lower body laterally while keeping my back to the target as long as possible. Good move or not?
great video. this "too horizontal" of a shoulder turn can only be fixed with drills at home. And it will hurt if you've never done it properly. Your body won't want to do it. It's a great winter project. again great video.
I've worked on this, without a range session but mostly inside the room using a club across my chess. But it tremendously helped! I really need to slow down my swing just to have it in effect but this, one of the fundamentals of golf, I believe, is largely overlooked. Great video Monte!
Cheers, Amir from Malaysia.
I love you monte but you said more in the last 20 seconds than you did in the rest of the video!
Very nice and straightforward video that coincides with what I've been trying to put together feel wise for myself lately, with a pro. You explained it perfectly. For me, the spine tilt was a missing part. I would still tend to rise up before impact otherwise. Thanks!
the best explanation of early extension as a result of a flat shoulder turn. This is a game changer for my swing. thanks!
good lesson. i always have trouble turning the left shoulder. I want to take the club back with my hands many times which is not good
cant not having enough tilt at address cause hitting down with the driver,,,
also could this cause lose of swing speed
Wow great vid your the man
that is a really great explanation. thanks Monte
Fantastic. Thanks.
absolutely brilliant explanation
you explained that very well. thanks
So glad I found this: Thanks Monte.
Great stuff!
great video! would be better if it was 2 mins long
Good simple-to-undersatnd explanation of a complex move
where words fail, * * * * *
thanks....
this is a great video, really enjoyed this! really clear on the rotation of the right should
Geat Vid! Helped me solve a lot of issues!
sorry - meant to finish up saying 'right shoulder'!
Another great vid thank you
Yes
he knows his shit top man
Yes to both
What did you do with Monte?!?!
Hi Monte. great visual demonstration of the shoulder turn. The extended direction rods really illustrates how the turn should be accomplished especially on the downswing and follow through. Thank You.
Good info. Spot on.
Spot on, thanks!
Priceless instruction!
Nice video. Thanks for the tip
great stuff tahnks
Really good explanation!
Terrific...
Excellent.
So useful
Perfect !!!! Thanks !!!!!
Great video!
GOLD!
I disagree totally. Put the club on your right shoulder at address and then coil into your right instep. There is absolutely zero rotation unless your bent over picking up soap in prison. This type of rotation Monte is advocating makes for alot of manipulation independent of core and miss hits when timing is off.
I should also add that 90% of golfers with an 8 handicap or higher do not have the spine or hip mobility to maintain these postures through impact. I see you do, either through training or natural flexibility. It wasn't until I started working on mobility (foam rollers, dynamic stretches etc) that I could even contemplate this. Do you have suggestions for golfers to improve their hip and spine mobility? Otherwise, they could certainly end up with back pain forcing themselves into these positions
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