Winegard Air 360+ and Gateway: Combining HDTV with Wi-Fi & Cellular
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2019
- Over the past few years, Winegard has branched out to also offer long rang Wi-Fi and roof-mounted cellular via its ConnecT and ConnecT 2.0 products, but RV manufacturers have been hesitant to add yet another major component to already crowded RV roofs.
So why not combine things - and hide the cellular and Wi-Fi antennas under the same dome as the TV antenna?
That is the core idea behind Winegard's Air 360+, a new product designed to offer a great amplified TV antenna for RV manufacturers to build onto new RVs - but with an easy "Gateway" upgrade path to allow RV owners to simply add cellular and Wi-Fi connectivity as well, without needing to drill any additional holes or pull additional wires to tap into the antennas on the roof.
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Thank you for this video! You cleared a lot of information up for me!
Thanks for all you do for us
Great presentation.
Good info sounds ok for casual users
excellent video
It's nice to know that the RV manufacturers are trying to stay up with the moves in electronics that are helping people stay connected. Good to be able to connect in an emergency even if you want to be away from it all. That said, I think it would be nice if they could upgrade their building techniques a little when it comes to the roofs and sealants used to keep water out. The workmanship leaves little to be desired and even if you're handy and have the time to try and keep up (the majority of folks aren't and don't) the chore (or labor of love depending) can still get away from you. Maybe someday? Thanks for the content it's very thorough and informative.
Interesting. Hopefully it will push the "aftermarket" folks to make one for those of us who already have an RV.
Can you add a roof tv satellite and use the external port to get signal to a reciever such as dish Wally? that's what my dealer told me but im skeptical.
Hello! I have a question. We are full time on our new RV and we have the Air 360 Plus on the roof. I was thinking to add the gateway to enhance the wifi signal and also have a LTE SIM card for where there is not wifi available.
My question is: Does still make sense to spend the $300 on the Winegard Gateway, or there is a better set up available?
Also, what type of router would I need?
Thank you!
All depends on your needs... recommend starting with our overview content at www.rvmobileinternet.com/getting-started. If you're one of our members, feel free to ask any questions you have in our forums so our staff can assist.
Our 2022 GD Reflection came with it, we haven't decided whether to go with weingard or add another line and use our own mini sim card in it.
I'am Your Newest Subscriber Great Videos
If I’m understanding this right, I can add the gateway router which will grab the campground’s WiFi from up to 1/2 mile away, but will it strengthen the signal then in my RV? Then for the modem, is there a way to add a booster to the cellular antennas in the 360+ to strengthen whatever cell signal they pick up? For example since I already pay for an AT&T data plan, could I pop in the SIM from my cell phone, hook a booster to the gateway router and an indoor WiFi antenna to hotspot our devices?
You can't easily use a booster with a device like this, and you need a data only plan for it.
Really looking for info on the “Togo” from winegard. Would like to add to our RV. Is there a review in the making now that it is available t many marketplaces?
Here's our coverage of the Togo: www.rvmobileinternet.com/togo - we have fully reviewed the ConnecT 2.0 that the hardware is based on in the past for our members.
Great information - thank you!
We recently purchased and installed the Winegard Air 360+ with Router. We are attempting to use the sim card from our Verizon Jetpack but it is too small. Do we need to purchase another sim card from Verizon? Do you recommend purchasing an AT&T plan that provides internet services and switch out sim cards for coverage?
Is there another router that could be used with the Winegard that holds 2 sim cards?
Appreciate any guidance. Thank you!
Here's our guide to SIM cards : www.rvmobileinternet.com/simcards. As to if you need multiple plans or a dual SIM/modem setup, totally up to your unique needs. If you're a member, please do repost this question in the member forums - and our team can further assist you in answering your questions.
but one thing i was told is that the connect 2.0 DOES NOT HAVE over the air broadcast, for that you have to the Connect 2+
I've seen some RV'ers install alternative routers with the Air 360+ (instead of the Gateway) using adapters for the cable connections. Do you know if the wifi antenna under the dome is dual-band? Will it receive both 5GHz and 2.4GHz wifi signals? The Gateway itself is not dual band, but I'd like to install an upgraded dual-band router in my rig with both 5GHz and 2.4GHz, but that doesn't make sense if the dome antenna can only receive 2.4GHz. Thanks!
It is 2.4 Ghz only.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter The antenna is 2.4 GHz only? How disappointing. Okay, thank you for the incredibly quick response! Love what you guys do for us!
I have the Winegard Air 360 and the camper has the switch and plate on the roof inside with wires. It doesn’t have the “+” on name is it the same?
The 360 is only a TV and AM/FM Antenna. The 360+ adds the cellular modem and router.
Hey there, I just bought a 2021 Aspen Trail with the Winegard Air 360. Does not say plus on it though. Inside there is the coax connection with an antenna power switch and wifi power switch. Is mine set up to receive the Gatway, or do I need the Air 360 Plus?
You should contact Winegard or your RV dealer for support.
So of the 360+, Connect 2.0, and Togo which is the best preforming for cellular?
They all have the same modem.
I have the air 360 in my new rig. If adding the gateway does it go inside the dome or on the ceiling inside the rig? Also if I was to get this mainly for basic internet surfing and let’s say internet based Xbox games will this work ?
Thanks
It connects to your ceiling. As to if you can game - is a function of your data plan and local signal conditions.
my 2016 is prewired from a tv antenna on the roof. Is that wire good for the Wineguard or would I have to run new wire?
No.
does the 360+ get better signal with the router ? Because my unit is lagging in regular signal . At first when it was new it was good. I have a 2021 cougar and the signal is bad and I contacted winegard and no re ply .
The companion router adds local networking and the option for a cellular connection - it does not improve any signals.
I enjoyed your videos and sometimes replay them. I am not a techy or geek but can you explain how this compares with the Togo? It seems these plans can't beat the Togo's. Also, is this 360+ a wifi "booster" to use often in RV parks with weak bandwidth?
The Togo plan retired earlier this month and is no longer available. We have the Togo documented on the channel too.
It does nothing for "bandwidth". Bandwidth is a function of the internet service provider (the speed). It will however make a weak signal stronger, but "signal strength" and bandwidth are two two separate things.
Anyone know if the antenna will work with something like a Pepwave modem/router instead of the Winegard Gateway?
No it works only with their router. Learned that the hard way lmao.
Do you have to use the gateway router with the 2.0 or can you use a better router with it?
It's not designed to use any other router but the Gateway. More info is in our overview: www.rvmobileinternet.com/gear/winegard-air-360/
Mine picked up 0 channels. Hoping I did something wrong.
Is there a video for those of us with a new 2021 RV with a factory installed Winegard 360 Air + but NO interior prep, AND show how to install it inside the dome of the 360 Air+?
We're more a news channel.. we don't cover specific installation. We don't even have one of these devices in house.
Yah we have a new shadow cruiser rv trailer 2021 and it has a pre installed winegard 360 +. I want to know how to activate it.
If you have the 360 on the roof but no interior prep, you may have the 360 and NOT the 360 "plus". The regular 360 is the TV antenna only and not the wifi and cellular antenna.
If you have the 360 plus, you should have interior prep. To activate it, you need to buy the additional router. Amazon - 275.00. You can use it simply as a wifi booster if you are at a place with wifi, but a weak signal. Or you can insert a Sim card into the router (mounted on the ceiling) and receive a 4g LTE signal to your router. This will create a secure network within your rv. Hope this helps
We have the Connect T 2.0 which had a huge loss of speed when using the WIFI. Winegard said that is normal and we are looking for options to remedy, did you have the same issue with your 360+?
Not sure what you mean by 'loss of speed' - as compared to what? Any wireless hop you add will always result in a loss of some speed, just the nature of the beast. But the 360+ is basically the same guts as the ConnecT 2.0.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Because I was having speed issues I did a test.. At home I connected my laptop to my home WIFI directly while inside the RV. Did some speed tests. Then I connected my Winegard to the same home WIFI and connected my laptop to the Winegard and re ran the speed tests. I lost on average of about 60% of the speed. I have GIG speed at my house so it doesn't matter but when I'm at an RV Camp where the WIFI is notoriously slow, then slowing it down by half makes it unusable for say...streaming UA-cam. I work on the road while traveling so I need to be able to do Zoom calls etc that's why I got the system but it hurts for that...doesn't help. At least that's my experience and I'm looking for a work around. It definitely improves the strength of the signal but at the cost of any speed.
A device like this won't help if you have great signal to begin with and can connect your devices directly. Adding a wireless hop will just diminish that performance. Devices like this are more for long range, reaching a signal your laptops can't on their own.
But you're not going to be using campground Wi-Fi for Zoom calls.. that's an unrealistic expectation. Most just aren't setup for it. You need to assemble a MUCH more robust setup than a low end consumer product like this.
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@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Thanks for the info... That's basically what Winegard said and I will say it works fabulously at picking up a weak signal. Just for us on the east coast...it's rare to never we are somewhere so remote that we don't have a strong signal. Thanks again.
My camper has the wine guard but no Wi-Fi plate inside?
Winegard makes many products. Some are not internet related. Confirm your model and look up the specs.
Thanks.
Hi there I am a long time sub for like 5 years now. Love your channel. I have AT&T as my carrier. You both really help me to know what is going with AT&T. I have a question if you know where I can get the antennas for my AT&T Wireless Internet modem? I ask because I live in a Trailer and want to get the best signal. Also I can get all 4 bars. Right now I get like 3 maybe 2 green bars.
Here's our guide to cellular antennas: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellularantennas
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So if I purchase the gateway for inside, my 360 can be utilized as a cellular and WiFi booster? I’m looking into the WEBoost, but this is already on my roof. Thoughts? Thanks in advance for the help
This is not a booster... just a modem and antenna.
Mobile Internet Resource Center I went ahead and just bought the ConnecT 2.0. I need a booster for my xfinity free hotspot and better 4G inside. Hopefully I made a good choice!
Mobile Internet Resource Center Can I remove the 360 and put the connecT in the same spot, and utilize the wiring for it that’s already ran?
I suggest contacting Winegard tech support to see if they will allow this without voiding any warranty.
Thanks god bless
Is there a device like this that combines a cellular signal booster?
No, we do not know of any booster/modem/router combos.
WE have a 2020 rv that has a Winegard 360 when we are home we can stream Netflix & such. When we are camping we can not, my question is, if we up grade to the Winegard 360+, will this pull in the free internet at campgrounds & would we have to completely rewire the rv?
You can add the 360+ to your ceiling mount. But most campgrounds don't have enough bandwidth to allow streaming.
Ok thanks , so what would you recommend a booster also, this stuff is all new to hubby & me.
These rooftop units are not designed nor are they easy to use with boosters.
There are a lot of other potential options that depend on your needs, desires and budget. Suggest you get started here: www.rvmobileinternet.com/overview
Does the roof 360 need a power source?
Yes, it requires a 12v power source.
I just purchased a 2021 Jayco Pinnacle fifth wheel which has both the Winegard AIR 360+ and Gateway installed on the unit. If I were to purchase an unlimited date plan from Verizon Wireless, what other equipment would I need for my internet service?
Everyone's needs are different.. recommend starting with assessing yours: www.rvmobileintenet.com/getting-started
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter your reply's are so generic. sorry to say but if this is an income source for you through youtube, put some time into your responses. Just fyi. good luck.
@@tomcat5986 I think Chris and Cherie attempt to give us the best information so that we can make an informed decision as to what equipment/system will best suit our individual needs. Most of us are expecting lightning-fast wifi and suburban cellphone signals everywhere we travel to but with the limitations of the equipment and service offered, there really is no "best" solution for everyone. At least that is the conclusion I have come to. Hopefully, manufacturers and cellphone carriers will realize many more people are working remotely from the road now and will make attempts to upgrade their equipment to accommodate this new wave of mobile telecommuters.
I have the 360+ and gateway installed what’s the next step?
Next step for what?
Help me understand what the point of this thing is. I’m still confused. Why get the modem part when our phones have internet? Only think I see this good for is tv channels and radio reception.
Just depends on how you need to utilize mobile internet... this guide/video should help: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellular-devices
I just bought a fifth wheel. It already had a Winegard 360 installed on the roof. I bought the Winegard router for $300 and when I took the cap off inside my fifth wheel, the wires are literally 3 inches long coming out of the hole max 2 inches, there’s no way they will separate and go to both ends of that router the red plugs in one side, the green and yellow clear across at the other end. How am I supposed to fix this help please. Also, the red wire doesn’t have a gold attachment on the end Like the green and the gold help ASAP please this is a new fifth wheel.
You should contact your installer, vendor or Winegard for assistance.
Hi, Does this run on battery or 30 amp?
The device uses a direct 12V power supply. More info on specs: www.rvmobileinternet.com/gear/winegard-air-360/
Couldn’t you use MiFi?
Not sure of the safety issues with (us older folks) needing to climb onto the roof to insert a SIM card... seems to me to be a relatively easy item to put into the inside modem. Your thoughts???
If you install the Gateway on the inside of your RV, that's where you'd swap the SIM card at.
Would this be better than using a cell phone hot spot?
Here's our guide to cellular devices: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellular-devices
Great video.. I think they missed the boat for a mass consumer.. It would be much more useful if this thing was a simple 4g/5g cell booster. I would buy it right now (even at its overpriced price) if it offered that
Sad that they charge so much for this outdated tech... This thing is worth $39.99 at best
Cellular boosters really usually aren't the best option for data performance. www.rvmobileinternet.com/boosters
Ours doesn’t work for tv local stations in different rv parks at all! 40 miles south of Tulsa received one tv station not one with news or weather, Oklahoma City 35 miles out 0 nothing no stations at all.
Mine is brand new and wont pick up one channel
Did you turn the power to it on? Mine has a tiny button on the wall plate and a tiny green led on the wall plate to show its powered.
@@chriswilson458 yeah....they sent and brand new one and it was installed. The coax on the old one was pinched from the factory.
I have one of these Winegard 360+ and it didn't work very well at all. I called the company and the lady said what you receive with it is all you get and they have nothing to improve the signal for your TV. It's junk for a TV.
What I want to know is how does this compare to a MIFI?
Depends on the MiFi you're comparing it to.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Verizon Jetpack 4G
There have been about 8 models that meet that description. All about specs. Rvmobileinternet.com/cellular-modems
You lost me at 1:50 min🤪
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The problem with these "spectacular devices", is that they lat about 2-3 yeas, the maker then upgrades to new models, obsoletes the one you have, and everything starts all over. NO THANKS!
2-3 years is about normal for cellular technology to stay current. In this case, even at launch they were several years behind current.
Good information, nice but 👎👎👎
Tim F, why the thumbs down?
I get no fm stations with this antenna