2020 and up they fixed the suspension, upgraded the seat, made all LED lights and changed the tail light a little and did some other stuff. I got a 2022 rebal with 809 miles and it's just now breaking in and is absolutely a blast.
OK for those of us who aren’t huge perhaps under 150 pounds the seat and suspension are not an issue at all!!! I’m 130 and 5 foot 5. This is exactly what I needed as a new rider. Great Review!
@@asylumrain This bike's seat height is really low, which is great for shorter people. I love it! For instance, Japan is a country where we can find the average of 5'4 height in general, and the 250cc version of this Honda Rebel is quite popular even with people under 5 feet height. The best way to find out if this motorcycle is suitable to you is: you find one thru an aquaintance or in a bike dealership, and you sit on it, grab it and turn the steering bar several times. And if you have the chance to test-drive it, that's even better. If it's not the best option for you, you'll find out fast just by sitting on it. Happy New Year!✌😎
@@migueruta in Japan the sr400 is/was a fairly popular bike in Japan and it's got a seat height of 31" so I'd think this would be considered short. granted the sr is a pretty narrow bike too... it feels like a very comfortable bike for me, even on US highways, 5'11" 140lbs
I solved my suspension problem I lost 65 pounds now it rides really good and I love it I seriously love it I put on over 2000 miles Last Summer and I haven't ridden that far it since I was a teenager. The seat is hard and I had my seamstress make a nice little strap-on cushion for long trips. I was riding a Harley but it got so heavy I didn't think I could pick it up if I ever had it tip over so I got something lighter I most always ride alone...ps 5/15/19. Got a slip on loud pipe. Small windshield. Loud and vry quick now w 3k miles and almost 70.mpg. now. Love riding this. A KEEPER
I love mine still it's got that same 2000 miles from May to now and still being rode at this time cause I do ride winter weather as well. Yes I could drop some lbs too, and somewhat working on it.
I love this large front tire. I cant help but think that it stabilizes the bike really well. They did change the tail light. I happen to like the dirt bike feel, so i am not changing the suspension. It is very fun on the Twistys.
You are SO right about that “pine cone” seat. I took it to a custom seat shop and even that guy said “you must have an iron butt if you are going 1.5 hours on a seat like that.” Will have the seat built up and padded better soon 😊 It is a great bike, despite it’s upgradable flaws.
New riders like to lean forward a little bit as it helps to feel more in control of the bike. What I see is a good opinion based on your body weight and height, which is good for people interested. But I only see good things really. Thanks for the video man.
Finally a reasonable critique of this awesome looking bike! Suspension and motor housing are the most interesting points here from my point of view. Thanks a lot, that was definitely worth it!
Good review enjoyed watching it. I wish folks would stop calling 250s 500s for the most part beginner biked. They are great to learn on but also great bikes. Be safe out there folks
I have to tell you that at the beginning of the video I thought you were unduly harsh but I stuck with it and thoroughly enjoyed the review. I’ve heard the complaints about the suspension but even being a fat boy I haven’t had a problem. I too bought the bike almost blindly. I saw an advertisement for it and went straight to the dealer and said, “I’ll take the red one”. Thanks for the review. Rubber side down.
Thanks for the support. Yeah I wanted to get the dark clouds out of the way first to then but a good light on this motorcycle. It is a motorcycle that with some tuning of the suspension and some customization to the rider it would be perfected. They are such little short comings.
Mike L. Did you end up buying the bike?? I’m curious what price you got it for as i’m in the middle of speaking with a dealer. Used 500 with 1,500 miles on it for $5,500. Too much money?
Great review! Nice balance between informative and entertaining. I appreciate you identifying both the ups and downs of this bike. I've subscribed for more vid's :-)
I'm a woman 4'11 and 116 lbs. bought my first bike Dec.2018 a 2015 Honda Rebel 250 and I love it . I think it's more than enough bike for me being I only want to ride it out on the country roads for now. Maybe one day I'll move up to bigger like the 500 but my little 250 suits me just fine for now. I really enjoy watching the videos and learning lots ...wish I had watched some videos before i struck out practicing in my yard on wet pine straw and now i'm suffering from a broken ankle. LOL can't wait to get back on and try again.
I'm 6' 200 lbs. Went to all manufacturers demo days summer 2018. I own 3 bikes now. I liked the look alot so I rode it... rode about 50 different bikes in a month or so. I just love to ride. Kawasaki H2 ... wow! Goldwing... sweet. FXDR... nah,ergos are unnatural. I loved this bike! Light and fun,surprisingly quick too. I recommend highly,I like it so much... I'll probably get one.
I love this little bike (yes the first couple of minutes sounds like I hate it but this is my bike), but I do recommend others to take it for a spin. In fact with the exception of one person I have let borrow the Rebel the love it and one bought. So there is that.
There have been some kits designed to adjust to forward mount so the knees are not so directly below you. Another thing would be get the knee pads for the tank to help reduce vibes and such transferring to them from the bike and that aids as well.
Great, informative and entertaining review. I think Honda must have been listening - new model has stiffer suspension, better seat, improved (round) dash display and a neater rear light.
I really appreciate this video! I’m a beginner rider and I’m really nervous about taking my Rebel 500 on the highways/interstate, but this video helped me calm my nerves!
Maybe a little bit depending on where you are from, but it will not be that bad. This bike's big tires and decent weight makes it a very stable platform even at highway speeds and if you are going with traffic you'll get the average turbulence but nothing that will shake your path. Now a two lane semi blast that will move you.
Bought my Reb 500 5/23/19. Everything RH said is 100% true. Worth every cent. If they ever come out with a Rebel 750 you can bet your ass I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Nice! Yeah that bike was in Ada which is not too far from your area then if you are north of Dallas or so. I just chose a random ad since there were plenty to chose from.
Just watched this excellent review again. Seriously thinking of buying one. At 6 ft and half an inch, but disproportionately short legs, I could get on with the low seat height, but I feel a more built-up seat would ease the riding position. Very cheap to get done in Thailand. This is the best review of the bike on UA-cam. I wish I could give you another 'thumbs up'.
Kevin McCarroll Good place to be and when you gain your experience it will still be a great friend to keep around. Literally just got off of mine a moment ago after bombing through town here and it's still a dream!
I feel your pain. I looked at several newer bikes including this one. I compared it to the 80s Honda nighthawk I have. Mine has a lot of metal pieces where the new ones are all plastic. My shocks are adjustable and well made. My forks are sturdy beyond anything new nowadays. And while the sun has cased the seat covers seams to give way in places, the padding is cushy, thick, and shows no signs of wear after 30+ years. The gages are analog, readable in any light, and super reliable. Looking at each little thing on new ones, I get the deep feeling of 'cheap'. While my carb is totally cherry and never even been taken apart, it has lost a tad bit of fuel economy. I'm getting almost 60 miles a gallon on a 80s 450. Occasionally the carb drips a tad bit from the bottom when parked after a good ride. I have 6 speed overdrive and even after going up one tooth in the front sprocket, still have plenty of power on the take off. I thought about getting a newer one, but it would just never compare to what the 80s bikes were. It could be worse, you could get a Harley with a air filter where the gas tank should be and a gas tank under the seat that vibrates and leaks. I do love the styling of the smaller rebel. But it's just not made for the highway. Mine is great for city commutes or highway runs. I just don't like the direction Honda is going with the new ones. The engines are the only good thing in my opinion. Great video, cheers.
@@RabidHedgehog hey! i can`t wait to buy my new honda rebel blue edition 2020. so you`re saying that they improved all the bad things that people complained about? it means that they did a perfect motorcycle . when do you think the will release the new model in spain? ...we are into february so i hope it won`t take to long. thanks!
Brought the Rebel CMX 500 last year and so far I've ridden 13k(km) on it. My advice for anyone purchasing one of these would be to change out the seat. The stock one that comes with the bike is incredibly uncomfortable for rides lasting more than an hour. Other that that... :)
I ended up opting for the V2 Motozaaa, which is very comfortable. A couple of points though, the seat is not compatible with the stock pillion seat or most tidy tail kits I have seen. If anyone is interested, I purchased mine from eBay. Its a very easy bike to customize. Some other extras that I consider worth while include the H2C crash bars (great for mounting lights, GoPros, etc.) and a tank fairing to protect the paint work ;)
I had it narrowed down to two very different bikes in spring 2017. This and the Suzuki S40. Completely different bikes. Really different. I had to decide if I wanted to go really old school and back to my roots (first bike was a BSA in 1972) or get some of that Honda tech and quality. I can honestly say I have regretted for 46 years that I got the BSA and not the CB 750. But you know above all (after reliability and performance) a bike has to *feel* right. The S40 did that for me. I like the engine on the Honda, but not the frame and feel. That said, if my wife would let me have several bikes, the Rebel 500 would still be a serious consideration....after my Zuk. Like your reviews. Keep 'em coming.
Thank you! I like me the S40 as well even if that one is a bit on the smaller side than the Rebel when it comes to chassis, but it was still fun to ride and was a pure motorcycle from a bygone era. Just wait for the next reveal though as the Harley has been replaced with something magical.
+ Beginners friendly + Big front wheel helps stabilizes when going through wet road / mud / bumps / holes + Mid control = Aggressive riding in city / heavy traffic digestion + Cheap (parts and services) + Varieties of modding + Smooth Clutch / light weight - Stock seat will numb your butt after 30 minutes - Stock mirrors don't provide good field of vision (for me) - No gear indicator / No RPM meter - Could use a bigger fuel tank like the older Phantom models Overall score: 8 / 10
I had been wishing for a Rebel with a larger engine for a good ten years (ever since I learned to ride). I learned on a 2004 Rebel, but longed for more power. I tried a Honda CB919, which I loved to ride, but was too tall to feel entirely safe in sudden stops or maneuvers. Next was a Harley Sportster 880 Superlow, but that felt heavy and sluggish. So I was thrilled to hear about the Rebel 500, and bought one last year. The things you cite as 'negatives' about it don't bother me a bit. What I HATE is that the handlebars pull me so far forward. It's SO different a riding position from the old Rebel. And finding a replacement handlebar that simulates the feeling of the original Rebel is super-difficult, not to mention expensive. It's deceitful that they called the new bike a Rebel.
Good review. As you have pointed out, you are not a small man. Maybe the intended buyers of this bike (new riders, who will probably upgrade to another bike quickly, WOMEN, who are mostly much lighter than you) will think the suspension is just fine.
the forks looked ok to me..... u could source aftermarket adjustable caps to tweak the stiffness... fairly cheap upgrade.... nice lil bike great mpg... i think worldwide the big thirsty heavy bike is dying a slow death.... lets all go back to when it was fun
Me and my wife have been looking to get into bikes and we have really been looking at the Rebel 300. The price point is a big seller for me however I am worried that the 300 wouldn't be the best for 70+ highways around here. I weigh 230 and the wife is 100. Would she be okay with a 300 and me step up to a 500?
That would be a perfect idea. The 300 will do her well and the 500 would be a great start for you for sure. I am near the same weight as you and it has been a great scoot for burbling around town and I have piled on the miles and smiles. My suggestion though, get a seat.
Rabid Hedgehog awesome that's just what I wanted to hear. Good thing there's a top notch upholstery shop near me. Thanks for the response and great video! Just got a new subscriber :)
Thank you for the support! Good to hear you have someone that can make a difference in that seat so close. I still need to change mine, but I have been riding for so long that I guess, like going nose blind to a smell, I have gone butt numb to the seat.
The best review on the Honda 500, even though not sure you are the target customer :) . The 200 Pounds riders are also taller and will buy something over 650cc. This bike is for people under 5feet 9, max 190 pounds. For those guys this bike is great either new or intermediate rider... This was done to sell and flow the Asian, European and South American markets, which do not have the culture of high debt and the bike can be used as mean of commuting in those markets overcrowded, narrow and poor maintained streets, that also have sidewalks. It is not a highway bike cause the highways are missing or if there are-will be short rides just to be used from suburbs to another part of the same city (so limited speed portions of highways). I see it as a utilitarian urban bike. For instance my Bonneville feels heavy in the city and under used. When used for small commute, the Bonnie is reaching the optimum temperature right when I arrive at the destination point (15-20 mins). The complaints about gauge, side cover are way too ... sweet. Oh, my God! An analog speedometer with odometer, neutral would be enough for this and cheap-10 $ . I would pay30 $ for an analogue gauge.
Have great fun and cool rides with it, then ! Agree with you, more riders should buy bikes for their soul, not to look good on it , and if you are happy with it, either is a 125 cc or 1000 cc, does not matter if someone is targeted customer or not :). Your review convinced me to put the Rebel 500 on top of the list for next fun, commuter and practical bike. Not sure if I keep my Bonnie as second bike or make the Honda Rebel 500 the only one. The customization options on CMX 500 are infinite - contemporan bobber, classic bobber, urban tracker, even cafe racer or mini street fighter...
Once the review got moving (literally) it was informative and fun to watch. This bike obviously has some issues but it's a "starter" bike and low budget, your suggestion of fitting stiffer springs sounds like a good upgrade. Maybe when my sports bike gets too much for me I should take a look at the Rebel. :>)
Honda makes EXCELLENT motors. This bike does look like it was made from spare parts that don't quite fit together though. I just wish this motor was in a standard bike that actually looked like the simple but anal retentive old CB 550 from the 70s. Obvious change would be a proper cop seat and change the whole tail including light cluster. Your review was refreshingly honest as an owner.
At least you were not smitten by the novelty of the bike, like other reviewers.....Here is a summary of what you've said, which pretty much is the way I felt after a test ride, plus some other observations: 1) Soft F/R suspension. Higher speed turns are scary, like coming into/out of a wide loop highway ramp, when gaining speed to merge or slowing down to exit. So are the bumps and ruts on highways and feeling of bottoming out on street potholes. 2) Rear brakes suck, like they are not there, almost like an 'accessory brake'. 3) Seat is too thin and shape means you cannot move back and front slightly, the same way you do on long rides. 4) Ugliest rear brake lights on a motorcycle over the last 20 years, for sure. Pretty sure there was no development budget left and these were picked up from their scooter/125 cc parts bin in Thailand. 5) No tach means your limiter is the max speed in MPH for each gear. 6) Short by 6 HP vs the same-engine CB500F, in the name of 'torque tuning'. Should have left it the same and just add a nicer sounding, better looking exhaust. First gear is pretty much awesome at the stoplight. 7) Not made in Japan, exterior fit and finish will suffer. 8) This bike is DEFINITELY not made with the 'Average' American Male in mind, currently at just under 200 lbs and 5' 10", which is exactly my measurements. The CB500F solves most of the issues, although: 1) It lacks on the looks department 2) The taller seating arraignment may not be suitable for newbies, more so the shorter ones. However, the CB500F, at about the same price, will also: 1) Be faster. 2) Handle and track better. Much better suspension. 3) Brake better. Much better brakes. 4) Be easier on your bum and nether regions, meaning long touring trips. 5) Be outgrown later than sooner. 6) Let you drive longer without a refill, It has 50% more fuel capacity. 7) Be pleasantly informative. It has a tach! Plus it is a Honda, #1 in Reliability and ergo Longevity (#2, #3 and #4 are also Japanese) Me? As much as I like the CB500F, I am thinking about purchasing the Kawasaki Z400, which is the naked version of the vaunted Ninja 400. I am older and coming out of a beat-up almost dead 2006 SV650 Naked, don't need a crotch rocket these days, don't need to spend a lot these days although those 700 and up Yamaha naked bikes look $pecially $exy.
I try not to be. I would love to have a better balanced machine out of the Rebel 500. But I did own this bike for a little over a year and it was a great friend to have along for the ride. But it appears Honda may have listened to real riders and have brought out the 2020 model with better everything as requested so I am hoping to ride one to see if it is a better package overall, or still too soft for the everyday.
@@RabidHedgehog yeah, maybe they will change the tank size and geometry put dual disk on the front stiffen the front shocks springs add some adjustable piggy backs on the rear and make it a belt drive ! I also agree changing the tail lights it dose look horrible! And if they won't do all that give people the option to order it from the factory then ship it to then bike shop !
Lol 😂 the beginning i almost thought you was going to try to convince people not to buy the bike 😂. I loved the much needed knowledge of information i will definitely upgrade the fork spring and back suspensions for sure because i think i would maybe not like that bounce in the stopping. But over all i liked that you still considered it still a safe ride for a beginner and experienced rider.😊
Yeah I had a little fun. I was trying to go all "Top Gear" or "Grand Tour" on it with hitting negative first with humor. It seems hit or miss, but I am glad it worked.
I really enjoy mine and the suspension isn't as bad as yours, but like you said it's mainly around town bike or if needed you can jump on the highway with a smooth ride.
Have you reviewed the Rebel 300 yet? I still don't like how the gas tank and forks are tilted so high up. Reminds me of the Virago 750 from the 80s. Lol
I have rode several, but never on camera. I am now a MSF RiderCoach and there are a few of them at the range I work on. They ride the same and such just without the power. I do want to make a dedicated video soon, but Honda dealers here just do not want to let test rides happen.
No idea. I have an '84 Magna and a '86 Rebel 450 and when I was looking at their newer cruisers I found this video. I wish they had a wider selection, like a modern CB750.
Analogue dial would be nicer for the retro look. Infact two dials (rev and speedo) would be nice with an LED indicator of what gear you are in incorporated in the rev counter would be even better.
The honda magna cruiser muscle cruiser had 6spds back in the 80s and up to present or future of them being in production or made the honda saber also had 6spd the nighthawk cruiser had 6spd overdrive
Yeah it is one of those things where people forgot and even I forgot they had some that did indeed have 6 speeds in them in the 80s, but it had been so long ago.
RH Fyi, cruisers are standards. The term "cruisers" came from the Japanese when they were trying to enter the western market (North, South,& Central Americas). Harley and Indian never called their bikes "cruisers" until the late 60s when manufacturers like Honda and Suzuki came along. I do, however, agree with you on that 80s style or Harley's style brake light. It needs to go away.
I did take it out for about 2 or 3 hours at a time and it could wear on you, but it was more the seat and suspension fitted. It can be upgraded to aid in longer rides. But it is for sure a wonderful commuter.
I've also watched your Suzuki S40 reviews. Between these two, which do you prefer for a first bike? I know you can get this with ABS, so that might be a plus.
Nice review. I have a 2018 500 abs. I’m a newb and short gal. I laughed when your girl sat on the bike because it’s so true that you can’t hug the tank well. I’ve adjusted to it. I love my Rebel and my hubby takes it to work sometimes. He has a FJR1300. He says my bike is so fun! Lol!
My friend's girlfriend sat on it yesterday and she is shorter but did not mind the gap. So it is preference or adjustment I guess. My wife does not mind it as much but I have one friend she hates it with a passion. To me and as you can tell from my head on shot I have no trouble with getting the tank hugged and getting a good ride out of it.
Thanks for the review. I came from riding the 2015 Vulcan S. Really nice bike but I can’t ride that more than an hour because of the vibration from the foot pegs. I wanted to switch to the rebel 500 but as you mentioned, the seat height is too cramped and not comfortable especially how my whole leg is oriented with my leg on the footpeg. I am now on a CB500X and i am very happy.
Rabid Hedgehog yes on medium coarse gravel and fire road. It is comfortable and capable. I just don’t do jumps because i doubt the suspension and alloy wheels can take the abuse
Well even some of the lighter folks that take it out have said something about it. My wife weighs nothing and to her it bounces a bit as well. I might have to have her do a review over it.
Seems good for that price. A bike should be one you are happy to ride anywhere / on any roads? Well, that's simple: Suzuki V-Strom (2nd generation). The perfect any-road-bike. Thanks for the vid. Looks like a good ride for the money.
It will be a little cramped at your height. Sit on it around 15 to 30 minutes at a dealer if you can and see how it will affect you. If your height is in your torso more so than legs it may not be that bad, but if your legs are over 32 inches or so it'll wear on you.
I totally agree with this guy to some extent because you supposed to have the best quality bike with the best quality experience. Every part on the bike should be quality made from the seat the Springs the wheels everything about the bike even the odometer should be quality with a beautiful display on this bike.
Hey, great review. I bought a Street Rod XG750A a year ago, but was initially tossing up between that, the Rebel 500 and the Boulevard S40. I liked the performance capability of the Street Rod (and still do) but the Rebel is a sweet bike, I love the look. I also love the simplicity and old school look of the S40. Is the suspension better on the S40? Keep up the great work.
You can get all the improvements you want plus a bunch more you haven’t thought of in the Behemoth Gold Wing at over 30,000 dollars and your first kid as payment!!!!
Lighter and more agile, slower and much less power. I find myself more comfy on this motorcycle than the Bolt... But I have an odd hatred of the Bolt that I cannot explain.
2020 and up they fixed the suspension, upgraded the seat, made all LED lights and changed the tail light a little and did some other stuff. I got a 2022 rebal with 809 miles and it's just now breaking in and is absolutely a blast.
This review was excellent! I'm not even looking for a motorcycle and I watched the whole thing!
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OK for those of us who aren’t huge perhaps under 150 pounds the seat and suspension are not an issue at all!!! I’m 130 and 5 foot 5. This is exactly what I needed as a new rider. Great Review!
Thanks! Ride safe out there!
The bike doesn’t feel too tall or anything? I’m 5’4
@@asylumrain This bike's seat height is really low, which is great for shorter people. I love it! For instance, Japan is a country where we can find the average of 5'4 height in general, and the 250cc version of this Honda Rebel is quite popular even with people under 5 feet height.
The best way to find out if this motorcycle is suitable to you is: you find one thru an aquaintance or in a bike dealership, and you sit on it, grab it and turn the steering bar several times. And if you have the chance to test-drive it, that's even better.
If it's not the best option for you, you'll find out fast just by sitting on it. Happy New Year!✌😎
@@migueruta in Japan the sr400 is/was a fairly popular bike in Japan and it's got a seat height of 31" so I'd think this would be considered short. granted the sr is a pretty narrow bike too... it feels like a very comfortable bike for me, even on US highways, 5'11" 140lbs
I solved my suspension problem I lost 65 pounds now it rides really good and I love it I seriously love it I put on over 2000 miles Last Summer and I haven't ridden that far it since I was a teenager. The seat is hard and I had my seamstress make a nice little strap-on cushion for long trips. I was riding a Harley but it got so heavy I didn't think I could pick it up if I ever had it tip over so I got something lighter I most always ride alone...ps 5/15/19. Got a slip on loud pipe. Small windshield. Loud and vry quick now w 3k miles and almost 70.mpg. now. Love riding this. A KEEPER
I love mine still it's got that same 2000 miles from May to now and still being rode at this time cause I do ride winter weather as well. Yes I could drop some lbs too, and somewhat working on it.
Tom
Congrats on the weight loss.
How much do you weigh if you don't mind me asking? I'm a really light guy and I'm planning on buying a Rebel 500 in a couple months time.
@@RabidHedgehog Will this bike handle 1 hour commute on highway going 70mph ? Will it be unstable or uncomfortable?
@@js7660 I weigh 170 pounds 5'8"
Hands down the best review of the Rebel. Informative and concise.
The honesty of this review is precious.
I love this large front tire. I cant help but think that it stabilizes the bike really well. They did change the tail light. I happen to like the dirt bike feel, so i am not changing the suspension. It is very fun on the Twistys.
Sane, coherent, informative. No bad-ass shtick. Recommended.
You are SO right about that “pine cone” seat. I took it to a custom seat shop and even that guy said “you must have an iron butt if you are going 1.5 hours on a seat like that.”
Will have the seat built up and padded better soon 😊
It is a great bike, despite it’s upgradable flaws.
Exactly. I'll live with the weirdness because it is that fun.
I don’t understand why you have so many dislikes on all of your videos!!! Your reviews are amazing and i really enjoy watching them lol
New riders like to lean forward a little bit as it helps to feel more in control of the bike. What I see is a good opinion based on your body weight and height, which is good for people interested. But I only see good things really. Thanks for the video man.
Thanks for the support!
Awesome review! Very thorough and high quality audio! 👍😎
Finally a reasonable critique of this awesome looking bike! Suspension and motor housing are the most interesting points here from my point of view. Thanks a lot, that was definitely worth it!
Thank you for the support.
Many of the gripes you had with it have been solved in the 2020 version 👌
oh nice to hear that, I just bought a 2020
@@Detz0325 that is great. How much was it?
Good review enjoyed watching it. I wish folks would stop calling 250s 500s for the most part beginner biked. They are great to learn on but also great bikes. Be safe out there folks
I have to tell you that at the beginning of the video I thought you were unduly harsh but I stuck with it and thoroughly enjoyed the review. I’ve heard the complaints about the suspension but even being a fat boy I haven’t had a problem. I too bought the bike almost blindly. I saw an advertisement for it and went straight to the dealer and said, “I’ll take the red one”. Thanks for the review. Rubber side down.
Thanks for the support. Yeah I wanted to get the dark clouds out of the way first to then but a good light on this motorcycle. It is a motorcycle that with some tuning of the suspension and some customization to the rider it would be perfected. They are such little short comings.
I thought exactly the same but it turned out to be a really good review.
How much was it?
Yeah, he almost lost me in the first few minutes as well, but I stuck it out and was glad too. I am planning on getting one of these very soon.
Mike L. Did you end up buying the bike?? I’m curious what price you got it for as i’m in the middle of speaking with a dealer. Used 500 with 1,500 miles on it for $5,500. Too much money?
Great review! Nice balance between informative and entertaining. I appreciate you identifying both the ups and downs of this bike. I've subscribed for more vid's :-)
Thank you!
I'm a woman 4'11 and 116 lbs. bought my first bike Dec.2018 a 2015 Honda Rebel 250 and I love it . I think it's more than enough bike for me being I only want to ride it out on the country roads for now. Maybe one day I'll move up to bigger like the 500 but my little 250 suits me just fine for now. I really enjoy watching the videos and learning lots ...wish I had watched some videos before i struck out practicing in my yard on wet pine straw and now i'm suffering from a broken ankle. LOL can't wait to get back on and try again.
I hope you get well quickly so you can!
Excellent review, wish more people did reviews like you.
I'm 6' 200 lbs. Went to all manufacturers demo days summer 2018. I own 3 bikes now. I liked the look alot so I rode it... rode about 50 different bikes in a month or so. I just love to ride. Kawasaki H2 ... wow! Goldwing... sweet. FXDR... nah,ergos are unnatural. I loved this bike! Light and fun,surprisingly quick too. I recommend highly,I like it so much... I'll probably get one.
I love this little bike (yes the first couple of minutes sounds like I hate it but this is my bike), but I do recommend others to take it for a spin. In fact with the exception of one person I have let borrow the Rebel the love it and one bought. So there is that.
So stiffen the suspension and replace the rear lights, seems easy enough.
Yep, 15wt. fork oil, problem solved.
I have this bike, absolutely love it, but my knees kill me on long distance trips and I'm only 5'4". Any suggestions for mods to help with this?
There have been some kits designed to adjust to forward mount so the knees are not so directly below you. Another thing would be get the knee pads for the tank to help reduce vibes and such transferring to them from the bike and that aids as well.
Great, informative and entertaining review. I think Honda must have been listening - new model has stiffer suspension, better seat, improved (round) dash display and a neater rear light.
I really appreciate this video! I’m a beginner rider and I’m really nervous about taking my Rebel 500 on the highways/interstate, but this video helped me calm my nerves!
Another quick question though, I’m about 175 and 5’2, will going 75-80 on the highways and passing a semi toss me around a bit?
Maybe a little bit depending on where you are from, but it will not be that bad. This bike's big tires and decent weight makes it a very stable platform even at highway speeds and if you are going with traffic you'll get the average turbulence but nothing that will shake your path. Now a two lane semi blast that will move you.
I really enjoyed this. I just recently went to the dealership and looked at the 300 and 500. I’m planning on getting one by the end of the year
Did you get it ?
This is the bike I am looking to try this Summer! 🔥🔥 great review
Bought my Reb 500 5/23/19. Everything RH said is 100% true. Worth every cent. If they ever come out with a Rebel 750 you can bet your ass I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Rebel 750 would be awesome to replace the old and tired Shadow line.
@@RabidHedgehog Agreed
Holy crap I saw that Rebel Craigslist ad and was actually thinking about buying it.
Are you from the great state of Oklahoma as well?
@@RabidHedgehog no , Texas but that ad came up on Craigslist when I was shopping around for a rebel.
Nice! Yeah that bike was in Ada which is not too far from your area then if you are north of Dallas or so. I just chose a random ad since there were plenty to chose from.
Looks like the most customizable Honda I have ever seen. Nice motorcycle.
Because a new rider needs to be adjusting their rear spring...and I found the front suspension great, that's why it works as it does.
Well it was adjusted the way it needed to be done. I still have it and just did the year update.
I got a 2021 SE 500 a few months back and I love it
I like how your video starts out for new riders! And I'm also glad that I'm not the only one who considers the turn signals to be an eyesore 😆😆😆
Just watched this excellent review again. Seriously thinking of buying one. At 6 ft and half an inch, but disproportionately short legs, I could get on with the low seat height, but I feel a more built-up seat would ease the riding position. Very cheap to get done in Thailand.
This is the best review of the bike on UA-cam. I wish I could give you another 'thumbs up'.
Thanks once more! I bet that would help it for sure on the seat side. I am the same height and only a 32 inch leg length so I have the shorter legs.
I am 5'7.5",130 lbs.......only issue is tail light and speedo....$100 to change both.....
What did you do about the Speedo?
Loved the review. Miss Oklahoma, too.
Appreciate the review. Going to be a first-time rider soon, and I’ll probably go with the Rebel as a starter bike.
Kevin McCarroll Good place to be and when you gain your experience it will still be a great friend to keep around. Literally just got off of mine a moment ago after bombing through town here and it's still a dream!
I feel your pain. I looked at several newer bikes including this one. I compared it to the 80s Honda nighthawk I have. Mine has a lot of metal pieces where the new ones are all plastic. My shocks are adjustable and well made. My forks are sturdy beyond anything new nowadays. And while the sun has cased the seat covers seams to give way in places, the padding is cushy, thick, and shows no signs of wear after 30+ years. The gages are analog, readable in any light, and super reliable. Looking at each little thing on new ones, I get the deep feeling of 'cheap'. While my carb is totally cherry and never even been taken apart, it has lost a tad bit of fuel economy. I'm getting almost 60 miles a gallon on a 80s 450. Occasionally the carb drips a tad bit from the bottom when parked after a good ride. I have 6 speed overdrive and even after going up one tooth in the front sprocket, still have plenty of power on the take off. I thought about getting a newer one, but it would just never compare to what the 80s bikes were. It could be worse, you could get a Harley with a air filter where the gas tank should be and a gas tank under the seat that vibrates and leaks. I do love the styling of the smaller rebel. But it's just not made for the highway. Mine is great for city commutes or highway runs. I just don't like the direction Honda is going with the new ones. The engines are the only good thing in my opinion. Great video, cheers.
Thanks!
I think it’s an extraordinary bike considering the MSRP.
I did end up buying it and loving it. Just got the bad out of the way first. They did improve it for 2020 so I need to go and try the modified one.
@@RabidHedgehog hey! i can`t wait to buy my new honda rebel blue edition 2020. so you`re saying that they improved all the bad things that people complained about? it means that they did a perfect motorcycle . when do you think the will release the new model in spain? ...we are into february so i hope it won`t take to long. thanks!
Nice review, covered many aspects of the Rebel. Thanks
Brought the Rebel CMX 500 last year and so far I've ridden 13k(km) on it. My advice for anyone purchasing one of these would be to change out the seat. The stock one that comes with the bike is incredibly uncomfortable for rides lasting more than an hour. Other that that... :)
Got a seat recommendation.
I ended up opting for the V2 Motozaaa, which is very comfortable. A couple of points though, the seat is not compatible with the stock pillion seat or most tidy tail kits I have seen. If anyone is interested, I purchased mine from eBay. Its a very easy bike to customize. Some other extras that I consider worth while include the H2C crash bars (great for mounting lights, GoPros, etc.) and a tank fairing to protect the paint work ;)
All the old rebel needed was a 450 engine on it. I had an old 450 rebel. God it was fun.
Well not too far away in the 467CC range here with that. I do wish the 450 Rebel made it out of the 80s.
the panel display of the 2018 rebel is the same in the Honda Vario 150cc SCOOTER. 😅
I'm confused , Yamaha hat , Harley t-shirt, honda bike ? 🤔 hmmmm !! Thanks for the review Lol.
Well I do stand for all riders after all. Might as well get confusing.
That was refreshing. Most YT videos are by salesmen (or wannabe advertisers) or brand loyalty zombies pretending to be objective reviews.
Lol
It shows he isnt brand loyalist like most people. Hes unbiased.
Im confused here too... but when he mentioned Cheez Whiz... his hidden agenda was exposed
3:36 why do you need to be a seasoned rider to ride on that seat? what are you saying...
Because you're used to it's punishment
Rabid Hedgehog oh okay, makes more sense now. I was like wtf i think any rider can use the seat no matter the experience
My all-time favorite Honda motorcycle
Good honest review. Ride safe.
I love the beefy front tire.
Good honest review, thanks .
Thank you!
I love that he dogged on the bike then gave why he likes it after haha
My rebel turns before I think about turning. She leans pretty
I had it narrowed down to two very different bikes in spring 2017. This and the Suzuki S40. Completely different bikes. Really different. I had to decide if I wanted to go really old school and back to my roots (first bike was a BSA in 1972) or get some of that Honda tech and quality. I can honestly say I have regretted for 46 years that I got the BSA and not the CB 750.
But you know above all (after reliability and performance) a bike has to *feel* right. The S40 did that for me. I like the engine on the Honda, but not the frame and feel. That said, if my wife would let me have several bikes, the Rebel 500 would still be a serious consideration....after my Zuk.
Like your reviews. Keep 'em coming.
Thank you! I like me the S40 as well even if that one is a bit on the smaller side than the Rebel when it comes to chassis, but it was still fun to ride and was a pure motorcycle from a bygone era. Just wait for the next reveal though as the Harley has been replaced with something magical.
+ Beginners friendly
+ Big front wheel helps stabilizes when going through wet road / mud / bumps / holes
+ Mid control = Aggressive riding in city / heavy traffic digestion
+ Cheap (parts and services)
+ Varieties of modding
+ Smooth Clutch / light weight
- Stock seat will numb your butt after 30 minutes
- Stock mirrors don't provide good field of vision (for me)
- No gear indicator / No RPM meter
- Could use a bigger fuel tank like the older Phantom models
Overall score: 8 / 10
Agreed!
I had been wishing for a Rebel with a larger engine for a good ten years (ever since I learned to ride). I learned on a 2004 Rebel, but longed for more power. I tried a Honda CB919, which I loved to ride, but was too tall to feel entirely safe in sudden stops or maneuvers. Next was a Harley Sportster 880 Superlow, but that felt heavy and sluggish. So I was thrilled to hear about the Rebel 500, and bought one last year.
The things you cite as 'negatives' about it don't bother me a bit. What I HATE is that the handlebars pull me so far forward. It's SO different a riding position from the old Rebel. And finding a replacement handlebar that simulates the feeling of the original Rebel is super-difficult, not to mention expensive. It's deceitful that they called the new bike a Rebel.
It is more CB than CMX for sure. I have had this bike getting close to a year now and it is not bothering me as much as it once did.
This is a great and honest review. Could you please do a review like this on the rebel 300?
Honda Rebel is very popular in Japan.
In South Korea, It can't buy due to the flood of orders.
Good review. As you have pointed out, you are not a small man. Maybe the intended buyers of this bike (new riders, who will probably upgrade to another bike quickly, WOMEN, who are mostly much lighter than you) will think the suspension is just fine.
the forks looked ok to me..... u could source aftermarket adjustable caps to tweak the stiffness... fairly cheap upgrade.... nice lil bike great mpg... i think worldwide the big thirsty heavy bike is dying a slow death.... lets all go back to when it was fun
The CTX 700 is a cruiser and it has a 6 speed transmission
Love your helmet with the wings. I have a similar one but in red
Bro, since we're being honest here, I think you're the one filled with cheese wiz. 🤔😁😉 Enjoyed the review 2:20
No it is Tacos and burritos.
Me and my wife have been looking to get into bikes and we have really been looking at the Rebel 300. The price point is a big seller for me however I am worried that the 300 wouldn't be the best for 70+ highways around here. I weigh 230 and the wife is 100. Would she be okay with a 300 and me step up to a 500?
That would be a perfect idea. The 300 will do her well and the 500 would be a great start for you for sure. I am near the same weight as you and it has been a great scoot for burbling around town and I have piled on the miles and smiles. My suggestion though, get a seat.
Rabid Hedgehog awesome that's just what I wanted to hear. Good thing there's a top notch upholstery shop near me. Thanks for the response and great video! Just got a new subscriber :)
Thank you for the support! Good to hear you have someone that can make a difference in that seat so close. I still need to change mine, but I have been riding for so long that I guess, like going nose blind to a smell, I have gone butt numb to the seat.
The best review on the Honda 500, even though not sure you are the target customer :) . The 200 Pounds riders are also taller and will buy something over 650cc. This bike is for people under 5feet 9, max 190 pounds. For those guys this bike is great either new or intermediate rider... This was done to sell and flow the Asian, European and South American markets, which do not have the culture of high debt and the bike can be used as mean of commuting in those markets overcrowded, narrow and poor maintained streets, that also have sidewalks. It is not a highway bike cause the highways are missing or if there are-will be short rides just to be used from suburbs to another part of the same city (so limited speed portions of highways). I see it as a utilitarian urban bike. For instance my Bonneville feels heavy in the city and under used. When used for small commute, the Bonnie is reaching the optimum temperature right when I arrive at the destination point (15-20 mins). The complaints about gauge, side cover are way too ... sweet. Oh, my God! An analog speedometer with odometer, neutral would be enough for this and cheap-10 $ . I would pay30 $ for an analogue gauge.
I totally love the bike to death though! I may be a bit bigger for this thing but heck it is a fun kit and I love banging down the highways with it.
Have great fun and cool rides with it, then ! Agree with you, more riders should buy bikes for their soul, not to look good on it , and if you are happy with it, either is a 125 cc or 1000 cc, does not matter if someone is targeted customer or not :). Your review convinced me to put the Rebel 500 on top of the list for next fun, commuter and practical bike. Not sure if I keep my Bonnie as second bike or make the Honda Rebel 500 the only one. The customization options on CMX 500 are infinite - contemporan bobber, classic bobber, urban tracker, even cafe racer or mini street fighter...
Yeah, I have a Bonneville in the city. Great bike but ugh, the weight around town. Eyeing this thing. Hmn.
My bikes live outdoors. 15 yrs of UV rays has destroyed the LCD odometer on my Shadow.
Seen many a bike sadly suffer that if let sit.
The indicator falling off cracked me up...... Subscribed!
Thanks! I finally got a new one after a couple of weeks of waiting.
Once the review got moving (literally) it was informative and fun to watch. This bike obviously has some issues but it's a "starter" bike and low budget, your suggestion of fitting stiffer springs sounds like a good upgrade. Maybe when my sports bike gets too much for me I should take a look at the Rebel. :>)
Heck it is a fun motorcycle and kind of acts like a smaller sport bike.
New York to LA and back on a 500 loved it. I been ride for 50 yrs so I know more than you!
Sounds like a fun ride. And the power of knowledge is great as well.
Honda makes EXCELLENT motors. This bike does look like it was made from spare parts that don't quite fit together though. I just wish this motor was in a standard bike that actually looked like the simple but anal retentive old CB 550 from the 70s.
Obvious change would be a proper cop seat and change the whole tail including light cluster.
Your review was refreshingly honest as an owner.
Thanks! I try to work it that way. With all the retro stuff coming back around I am hoping they do in deed put something together like that.
Man im gonna get this bike I swear!
At least you were not smitten by the novelty of the bike, like other reviewers.....Here is a summary of what you've said, which pretty much is the way I felt after a test ride, plus some other observations:
1) Soft F/R suspension. Higher speed turns are scary, like coming into/out of a wide loop highway ramp, when gaining speed to merge or slowing down to exit. So are the bumps and ruts on highways and feeling of bottoming out on street potholes.
2) Rear brakes suck, like they are not there, almost like an 'accessory brake'.
3) Seat is too thin and shape means you cannot move back and front slightly, the same way you do on long rides.
4) Ugliest rear brake lights on a motorcycle over the last 20 years, for sure. Pretty sure there was no development budget left and these were picked up from their scooter/125 cc parts bin in Thailand.
5) No tach means your limiter is the max speed in MPH for each gear.
6) Short by 6 HP vs the same-engine CB500F, in the name of 'torque tuning'. Should have left it the same and just add a nicer sounding, better looking exhaust. First gear is pretty much awesome at the stoplight.
7) Not made in Japan, exterior fit and finish will suffer.
8) This bike is DEFINITELY not made with the 'Average' American Male in mind, currently at just under 200 lbs and 5' 10", which is exactly my measurements.
The CB500F solves most of the issues, although:
1) It lacks on the looks department
2) The taller seating arraignment may not be suitable for newbies, more so the shorter ones.
However, the CB500F, at about the same price, will also:
1) Be faster.
2) Handle and track better. Much better suspension.
3) Brake better. Much better brakes.
4) Be easier on your bum and nether regions, meaning long touring trips.
5) Be outgrown later than sooner.
6) Let you drive longer without a refill, It has 50% more fuel capacity.
7) Be pleasantly informative. It has a tach!
Plus it is a Honda, #1 in Reliability and ergo Longevity (#2, #3 and #4 are also Japanese)
Me? As much as I like the CB500F, I am thinking about purchasing the Kawasaki Z400, which is the naked version of the vaunted Ninja 400. I am older and coming out of a beat-up almost dead 2006 SV650 Naked, don't need a crotch rocket these days, don't need to spend a lot these days although those 700 and up Yamaha naked bikes look $pecially $exy.
I try not to be. I would love to have a better balanced machine out of the Rebel 500. But I did own this bike for a little over a year and it was a great friend to have along for the ride. But it appears Honda may have listened to real riders and have brought out the 2020 model with better everything as requested so I am hoping to ride one to see if it is a better package overall, or still too soft for the everyday.
I'm pretty excited for the new one coming out bigger motor !
It is a bit of a shock. To be honest I wish they would update the Shadow a bit then make Big Rebel.
@@RabidHedgehog yeah, maybe they will change the tank size and geometry put dual disk on the front stiffen the front shocks springs add some adjustable piggy backs on the rear and make it a belt drive ! I also agree changing the tail lights it dose look horrible! And if they won't do all that give people the option to order it from the factory then ship it to then bike shop !
Lol 😂 the beginning i almost thought you was going to try to convince people not to buy the bike 😂. I loved the much needed knowledge of information i will definitely upgrade the fork spring and back suspensions for sure because i think i would maybe not like that bounce in the stopping. But over all i liked that you still considered it still a safe ride for a beginner and experienced rider.😊
Yeah I had a little fun. I was trying to go all "Top Gear" or "Grand Tour" on it with hitting negative first with humor. It seems hit or miss, but I am glad it worked.
Just One Question -Why Bother ?
I really enjoy mine and the suspension isn't as bad as yours, but like you said it's mainly around town bike or if needed you can jump on the highway with a smooth ride.
I do take mine everywhere and to be honest the bike has settled down on the suspension and feels pretty dang great.
You make great videos man.
Thank you!
Let's face it the bikes today are better than the 60's, 70's and 80's, I would know
I like my little 79 Honda CX500C. But yeah it it grumpy.
I like my Honda rebel 500 is great for me. Thank you for the video.
Have you reviewed the Rebel 300 yet? I still don't like how the gas tank and forks are tilted so high up. Reminds me of the Virago 750 from the 80s. Lol
I have rode several, but never on camera. I am now a MSF RiderCoach and there are a few of them at the range I work on. They ride the same and such just without the power. I do want to make a dedicated video soon, but Honda dealers here just do not want to let test rides happen.
Everything is about food with this big guy
Fun fact: Honda made a 450 Rebel in '86 and '87, which also had a 6-speed transmission.
Indeed you are correct sir. Magna and 450 Rebel both had the 6 Speeds, I wonder why they abandoned them for all those years in cruisers then?
No idea. I have an '84 Magna and a '86 Rebel 450 and when I was looking at their newer cruisers I found this video. I wish they had a wider selection, like a modern CB750.
Great review. Very honest. Good job. Fantastic information.
Thanks for the support!
Analogue dial would be nicer for the retro look. Infact two dials (rev and speedo) would be nice with an LED indicator of what gear you are in incorporated in the rev counter would be even better.
The honda magna cruiser muscle cruiser had 6spds back in the 80s and up to present or future of them being in production or made the honda saber also had 6spd the nighthawk cruiser had 6spd overdrive
Thats what i said then i started looking to see if anyone else noticed XD
Yeah it is one of those things where people forgot and even I forgot they had some that did indeed have 6 speeds in them in the 80s, but it had been so long ago.
83/84 Honda Ascot VT500FT also 6 speed
RH
Fyi, cruisers are standards. The term "cruisers" came from the Japanese when they were trying to enter the western market (North, South,& Central Americas). Harley and Indian never called their bikes "cruisers" until the late 60s when manufacturers like Honda and Suzuki came along. I do, however, agree with you on that 80s style or Harley's style brake light. It needs to go away.
I feel like a rabid dog salivating for this bike! Is the Rebel good for taking long cruises or is it just a commuter bike.
I did take it out for about 2 or 3 hours at a time and it could wear on you, but it was more the seat and suspension fitted. It can be upgraded to aid in longer rides. But it is for sure a wonderful commuter.
I've also watched your Suzuki S40 reviews. Between these two, which do you prefer for a first bike? I know you can get this with ABS, so that might be a plus.
Nice review. I have a 2018 500 abs. I’m a newb and short gal. I laughed when your girl sat on the bike because it’s so true that you can’t hug the tank well. I’ve adjusted to it. I love my Rebel and my hubby takes it to work sometimes. He has a FJR1300. He says my bike is so fun! Lol!
My friend's girlfriend sat on it yesterday and she is shorter but did not mind the gap. So it is preference or adjustment I guess. My wife does not mind it as much but I have one friend she hates it with a passion. To me and as you can tell from my head on shot I have no trouble with getting the tank hugged and getting a good ride out of it.
Thanks for the review. I came from riding the 2015 Vulcan S. Really nice bike but I can’t ride that more than an hour because of the vibration from the foot pegs. I wanted to switch to the rebel 500 but as you mentioned, the seat height is too cramped and not comfortable especially how my whole leg is oriented with my leg on the footpeg. I am now on a CB500X and i am very happy.
The CB500X is a great motorcycle for real. Take it off road yet?
Rabid Hedgehog yes on medium coarse gravel and fire road. It is comfortable and capable. I just don’t do jumps because i doubt the suspension and alloy wheels can take the abuse
I like the classic looks of the original. This looks like a terminator bike.
I think it will still age decent over time like its older variant.
That was a really good test of the Honda Rebel 500. Probably you find the suspension soft because you are a "heavy" American.
Well even some of the lighter folks that take it out have said something about it. My wife weighs nothing and to her it bounces a bit as well. I might have to have her do a review over it.
I resent that remark, now pass me one of those cheeseburgers.
Budget manufacturing.
Telltale signs of Taiwanese manufacturing.
Most Hondas up to 750cc are manufactured in Thailand including the Honda Rebel.
Or what about the cb500f vs this bike? Which would you buy or better?
I would go with the Rebel over the CB500F due to the fact I do not fit the CB as well. Size 14/15 shoes just do not fit their pedal boxes.
Seems good for that price.
A bike should be one you are happy to ride anywhere / on any roads?
Well, that's simple: Suzuki V-Strom (2nd generation). The perfect any-road-bike.
Thanks for the vid.
Looks like a good ride for the money.
It is indeed and I am hoping the 2020 revision of this machine will be nice.
will I have problems with it ( 6'1 tall )
It will be a little cramped at your height. Sit on it around 15 to 30 minutes at a dealer if you can and see how it will affect you. If your height is in your torso more so than legs it may not be that bad, but if your legs are over 32 inches or so it'll wear on you.
I totally agree with this guy to some extent because you supposed to have the best quality bike with the best quality experience. Every part on the bike should be quality made from the seat the Springs the wheels everything about the bike even the odometer should be quality with a beautiful display on this bike.
And they changed it here in 2020 as we all said it and Honda listened. I am looking for a 2020 come in in trade to take it out sometime.
Good, informative review of a bike I'd like as a second bike.
It fits in my second bike slot nicely.
Mabye a very stupid question. what's the difference between rebel 500 and rebel cmx 500?
Nothing at all as that is the model designation from Honda.
Thanks for the insight, great review!
Thank you!
@@RabidHedgehog NP, keep up the good work.
Hey, great review. I bought a Street Rod XG750A a year ago, but was initially tossing up between that, the Rebel 500 and the Boulevard S40. I liked the performance capability of the Street Rod (and still do) but the Rebel is a sweet bike, I love the look. I also love the simplicity and old school look of the S40. Is the suspension better on the S40? Keep up the great work.
Since we owned a S40 I can say yes, the S40 was better sprung than the Rebel interestingly enough.
You can get all the improvements you want plus a bunch more you haven’t thought of in the Behemoth Gold Wing at over 30,000 dollars and your first kid as payment!!!!
I love this review! Kudos!
Thank you!
How does this compare to the Yamaha Bolt R Spec?
Lighter and more agile, slower and much less power. I find myself more comfy on this motorcycle than the Bolt... But I have an odd hatred of the Bolt that I cannot explain.