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  • Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
  • An excerpt from The Fourth Position Academy - Petar Janjic Drum Course
    woooong.com/dr...
    Instructor - Petar Janjic
    Producer - Cory Wong
    Videographer - Carter Brice
    Editor - Carter Brice and Michael Bowden
    Audio Engineer - Dylan Nau

КОМЕНТАРІ • 407

  • @jamesmarkham7489
    @jamesmarkham7489 Рік тому +2282

    The control to not over play and give into the 16ths is incredible. Putting that much space in the groove is so hard.

    • @iseya3400
      @iseya3400 Рік тому +44

      I know right? Seeing this video, I knew myself would fall into temptation and mess everything up

    • @Nafinafnaf
      @Nafinafnaf Рік тому +29

      The drummer's equivalent of "intrusive thoughts" is trying to NOT to overplay lol

    • @Vova94318
      @Vova94318 11 місяців тому

      Did you watch? Im deaf from 1st sec👎🙉🤦😡💩🤮

    • @AdventureAndySnM
      @AdventureAndySnM 11 місяців тому

      Thank you for giving me this wisdom today

  • @cowbellthunder
    @cowbellthunder Рік тому +1131

    Cory leveraging extensive "finish an email on his phone while multiple kids are hanging off his limbs" experience here.

  • @patdry
    @patdry Рік тому +1480

    Moral of the story, Cory is an excellent babysitter of the groove.

    • @matthewlawton9241
      @matthewlawton9241 11 місяців тому +5

      You can't hold no groove if you aint got no pocket.

  • @facelessman7733
    @facelessman7733 Рік тому +861

    The drummer does this to me all the time, but not on purpose.

  • @nickrails
    @nickrails Рік тому +628

    Really sweet drumming. Shows how can musically manipulate time when you have a bass player who can consistently provide a pulse.

  • @CarlosCabreraMusic
    @CarlosCabreraMusic Рік тому +1190

    I had no idea this drummer was this good. Wow.

    • @efafe4972
      @efafe4972 Рік тому +98

      petar is crazy nice. he just has the discipline to not overplay

    • @halcyonacoustic7366
      @halcyonacoustic7366 Рік тому +41

      Victor Wooten was very complimentary of Petar on the shared tour.

    • @elisantiago8061
      @elisantiago8061 Рік тому

      I wish I had his discipline@@efafe4972

    • @symetryrtemys2101
      @symetryrtemys2101 Рік тому +12

      He didn’t seem to keep time very well…😂

    • @TheBanana93
      @TheBanana93 Рік тому

      That was the point lol. To try and throw cory off but he didn't@@symetryrtemys2101

  • @althejazzman
    @althejazzman Рік тому +597

    This was me literally every time the drummer took a solo in a fusion band I used to play bass for. I just hoped the guitarist followed and we all came in at the same time. I also called that "guessing".

    • @marcuswaddell
      @marcuswaddell Рік тому +3

      I think most people would say they were guessing if they were bein honest, regardless of style! lol

    • @thesolersystemofgames841
      @thesolersystemofgames841 Рік тому +40

      "We all came at the same time"

    • @ytsharkstop
      @ytsharkstop Рік тому +4

      At this point its on feeling lol

    • @callanc3925
      @callanc3925 11 місяців тому +13

      @@thesolersystemofgames841 "we all came in at the same time. 'at the same time' is the nickname of our sound guy"

  • @musicman2705
    @musicman2705 Рік тому +472

    I am a bass player, and my brain just broke.

    • @kvmalley
      @kvmalley Рік тому +49

      I’m a drummer and MY brain just broke!!😅😅

    • @buk3091
      @buk3091 Рік тому +21

      @musicman2705 that doesnt say much

    • @JakaMori
      @JakaMori 11 місяців тому +4

      U guys are using brain!?

    • @mrcarpentertoyou
      @mrcarpentertoyou 11 місяців тому +2

      I’m a guitar player, check out this crazy new pedal I got. So good!

    • @seanmurphy7722
      @seanmurphy7722 10 місяців тому

      @@mrcarpentertoyou As a public service this comment should be more visible.

  • @brycemallumakopp
    @brycemallumakopp Рік тому +179

    Love this. It really showcases how a change in the drums can make the whole thing have motion even with a steady bassline.

  • @michaelhackman3195
    @michaelhackman3195 Рік тому +257

    Keeps going even when his cymbal stand fails. What a pro

    • @ericmsandoval
      @ericmsandoval 11 місяців тому +3

      Why would you stop?

    • @bertiesaurus
      @bertiesaurus 11 місяців тому +2

      I agree but at the same time it’s not like he had the one cymbal

  • @creativeusernvme
    @creativeusernvme Рік тому +49

    I cant help but smile when i see these two together. Great jam!

    • @dadtier564
      @dadtier564 Рік тому +1

      What the what?!?!? The spelunky man himself is here?!?! This guy helped me get cosmic 99 ^^

    • @creativeusernvme
      @creativeusernvme Рік тому +1

      Hahaha its a small world after all! You have good taste in music. Cheers! @@dadtier564

  • @Mark-db1ok
    @Mark-db1ok Рік тому +64

    This is a really cool exercise. I would actually find it easier to keep my groove when the drummer plays something crazy wrong.
    It'd be MUCH tougher to lay off some of those cool Stuart Copeland off beats!

  • @alakadabraz
    @alakadabraz 11 місяців тому +27

    I know the bass player is playing something incredibly simple here, but staying in time playing something that slow with the beat shifting that much is incredibly difficult. Bass player deserves more credit :D

  • @maxblair3317
    @maxblair3317 Рік тому +17

    As a drummer and bassist, this might be my favorite video in existence

  • @TedSchoenling
    @TedSchoenling Рік тому +67

    I think he got you a couple of times... when he locked in with you then sped the tempo you followed a little

    • @yesto9676
      @yesto9676 Рік тому +14

      Yeah that so sneaky of Petar, I don't how Cory managed that so well haha

    • @Shakooba
      @Shakooba Рік тому +52

      I would argue that Cory was correct in following the tempo. Petar was changing rhythm and time signature to try and mess with him, but tempo shouldn’t count because it inherently affects the time between notes. If Petar sped up and Cory didn’t follow, then suddenly Cory would be the one playing a different rhythm, not Petar!

  • @theScienceLabLive
    @theScienceLabLive Рік тому +28

    In my mind, I imagined this a million times. This is better than I could've imagined. So amazing.

  • @WetSoul
    @WetSoul Рік тому +63

    As a musician, this is both amazing and hilarious 😂

  • @gcsusetyo
    @gcsusetyo Рік тому +9

    I don't know who I'm more impressed with, Petar or Cory 😍 We need more jam videos like this!

  • @Abrahamhamham
    @Abrahamhamham 6 місяців тому +2

    Ok, this grooved so hard i had a stank face almost the entire time

  • @blue_mountains28
    @blue_mountains28 Рік тому +4

    It’s like a drawn out argument with my wife those moments where we sync up are made all the more special and fantastic by the long periods confusion and struggle

  • @davidgoode7416
    @davidgoode7416 Рік тому +2

    It's always completely inspiring for me to hear this chemistry.

  • @ralphmunn1685
    @ralphmunn1685 Рік тому +33

    Petar isn't just a great drummer, he's a GREAT showman!!! 🙏

  • @thefunkybeautiful
    @thefunkybeautiful Рік тому +6

    The brilliance of Petar Janjic exemplified.

  • @andrewfields8556
    @andrewfields8556 11 місяців тому +8

    Man, this drummer is an amazing master at highlighting the syllables of the other instrument (in this case the bass). It really brings the magic out of the music, for every section of that overly simplistic bass line he was able to really compliment it and make it a worthy sounding lick with the utilization of so many different variations. His tempo, speed, syncopation, colorful highlights and just his overall fitting of the drums around the sound is impeccable. Also, even though the bass line wasn't that great I am impressed with the bass guy able to keep almost perfect timing, he did go slightly off sometimes but that is to be expected with such dramatic changes in tempo/speed etc... Very impressive matey!

  • @donkingmamac9546
    @donkingmamac9546 Рік тому +9

    It would be awesome if Petar's drum track is accessible then we could try it and make a fool out of ourselves

  • @lalarazafimahefa2783
    @lalarazafimahefa2783 Рік тому +22

    ... but he didn't succeed, right 😂😂😂 ? Nice to see you both sharing the pleasure of playing together 🎸🥁🤩 !!! 🙏🏻☮

  • @ryyymyyy
    @ryyymyyy Рік тому +5

    even the cymbal couldn’t handle it

  • @TheAaron3dg
    @TheAaron3dg 11 місяців тому +2

    1:26 is BRUTAL. Moving the 1 just a beat off would make any mortal change up

  • @InconspicuousBosch
    @InconspicuousBosch Рік тому +1

    This is, without exaggeration, the most succinct way to explain having anxiety to someone who does not live with the disorder

  • @ImJustStandingHere
    @ImJustStandingHere Рік тому +4

    Cory and Petar are two of my favorite people period.

  • @bandanaboy64
    @bandanaboy64 Рік тому +90

    Internal time is so important! Two absolute legends.
    Also, Cory, that is a DOPE Gaucho shirt. Where’d you get it?

    • @griffinhan-lalime4357
      @griffinhan-lalime4357 Рік тому +1

      I’m seconding this question and also hazarding a guess that it was Double Wonderful

  • @chriskay2004
    @chriskay2004 Рік тому +1

    The power of the head bob is real

  • @clumsydrummer7914
    @clumsydrummer7914 10 місяців тому

    This is just pure musical joy. Time can be divided in oh so many ways.

  • @paulanderson9650
    @paulanderson9650 Рік тому +3

    I dont see a bassist; i just see two drummers.

  • @normalizedaudio2481
    @normalizedaudio2481 Рік тому +9

    You can tell that guy is a PHD drummer!

  • @covergouwen7277
    @covergouwen7277 Рік тому +1

    This makes me happy!

  • @rayraybonne8469
    @rayraybonne8469 Рік тому +18

    I played in a band that routinely tried to pull out the rug from each other while we were rehearsing. I'm releasing the first of four albums has fall and a lot of the songs have the exact rug pulls and recoveries recorded but actually turned out fine.
    It's from my band in the seventies. I wrote about 80 songs and so far have been able to remaster about four albums worth out of the recording sessions at bars parties and in the basement.
    Things very similar to what you're talking about here. Guitar not coming in on his part then you look over and he's just laughing at you.. then he comes in. I think it made me a better drummer because I'm more reactive to situations someone plays out of time Etc.
    Their songs when the bass player starts really fast and I have to try to figure out how to slow everything down without making it obvious. That's always a fun one.
    Then there's the givebacks or the telegraph what you're doing very clearly. All in good fun!

    • @jas_bataille
      @jas_bataille Рік тому +1

      Where can I listen to that?!

    • @porter2024
      @porter2024 Рік тому

      sounds insane, what's the project name gonna be

    • @rayraybonne8469
      @rayraybonne8469 Рік тому

      @@porter2024 the 1st album is called, "Rock Remains Supreme ".
      I am on a mission to save Rock'nRoll !
      The recordings are from the "Beer Sucking Dog" sessions in the mid to late 70s and early 80s.
      I wrote the songs in 1969-1979 but most of them 1969-1975.
      i didn't release them for many reasons. the main one being I didn't know the biz and figured I'd lose the rights to some scheister music exec. I didn't want to end up like Fogarty or Pat Travers who couldn't even play their own music.
      so, I just kept playing and writing music.
      it took a long time to find players who didn't want to just play covers, so, just to keep playing (drums/vocals) I played in cover bands . big waste of time . I figured I could try to get them to play original music but as it turned out I would meet 2 guys who actually wanted to work on my stuff. So, we formed a 3-piece power trio & the party started!
      So, we just started recording everything and it kept developing into a unique sound everyone knew.
      Skip fwd to today I learned a lot, the internet etc... everyone loves classic & hard rock but it's all overplayed. I have 4+ albums that should have been released back in the day and who knows? I could have gotten lucky but odds were not good. But, I do have classic rock from the day and everyone who has heard it says it sounds like something they've hear but it's not.
      So, I'm gonna release some "new old" classic hard rock. Much more to the story. did you see the song link?

  • @jasonlowe55
    @jasonlowe55 Рік тому +11

    Petar is an absolute treasure and should be guarded at all costs.

  • @mikebliss3153
    @mikebliss3153 11 місяців тому

    Coming from a jazz background helps you know that the roles in the rhythm section are CLEARLY defined:
    -Bass controls the TEMPO
    -Drums control the STYLE

  • @namesake7139
    @namesake7139 Рік тому +6

    This was awesome!!!!!! I'm a drummer. Who's this drummer. Bass player internal time and focus was absolutely fantastic.

  • @drebleloaw
    @drebleloaw Рік тому

    It's a pleasure for a drummer test his bass player...

  • @supern0is349
    @supern0is349 11 місяців тому

    whats hilarious is that this is 1000x times more difficult and interesting than anything that plays on radio and people consider "music"

  • @jaygatsby1
    @jaygatsby1 Рік тому +2

    I like how the symbols have French bread on them.

  • @caardappel
    @caardappel Рік тому +5

    Fun to sing along Corys bass. The triplets got me!

  • @dckoppen
    @dckoppen Рік тому +10

    whahaha from the first few bars I knew this would be hilarious! Congrats for staying your ground Cory!

  • @ryanboyce3365
    @ryanboyce3365 Рік тому +2

    Petar rules!

  • @SethParr
    @SethParr Рік тому

    53 seconds: The cymbal was so impressed with the pocket that it fainted.

  • @non_brewed_condiment
    @non_brewed_condiment Рік тому +1

    as far as i'm concerned this is every drummer ever

  • @forthrightnight
    @forthrightnight 11 місяців тому +1

    That was special! As a drummer for 50 years.

  • @user-un8kq4bo8p
    @user-un8kq4bo8p Рік тому +1

    Its like watching two talented siblings who are constantly trying to mess with the other / screw up their jam

  • @agmsmith4079
    @agmsmith4079 Рік тому +28

    This reminds me of sessions I’ve engineered with Vinnie Colaiuta and Jimmy Haslip. 😂. Poor Jimmy would have to hold it down while Vinnie would do his thing. Jimmy was a rock though, never wavered. I remember Vinnie did a solo on Michael Frank’s “Remembering Take 5” where he super imposed a 4/4 rock groove onto the triplets, using his floor Tom as the kick and snare for back beat, while maintaining the standard take 5 kick/snare pattern (in 5/4) with his feet (kick and hihat pedal). So the Tom/snare rock groove would cycle every 8 triplets (cuz it was in 4/4) while the bars would cycle every 15 triplets (5/4 triplets). Vinnie kept the pattern going and going until the rock groove eventually cycled around and landed on the 1 of a 5/4 bar… but while he was doing it everyone except him and Jimmy completely lost where the beats where and where the original 5/4 pattern was. It was one of those 😱😱😱 moments… sadly that solo didn’t make it on the record. 😥. They felt it was too “out” for the MicGael Franks audience. 😔

    • @johannesschmitz6370
      @johannesschmitz6370 Рік тому

      Holy canoli

    • @flyingsteaks
      @flyingsteaks Рік тому +1

      damn I want to hear this so much

    • @agmsmith4079
      @agmsmith4079 Рік тому +3

      @@flyingsteaks …you can hear the song. It’s called “Hearing Take Five” on Michael Franks’ “Rendezvous in Rio” album. When I tracked it, it was called “Remembering Take Five”. He must have changed the name. I wish I was allowed to save that pro tools session. It was epic.

    • @HelpMeFindMyDad
      @HelpMeFindMyDad 11 місяців тому +1

      Just had to name drop

    • @agmsmith4079
      @agmsmith4079 11 місяців тому +1

      @@HelpMeFindMyDad …doesn’t make as much sense if I just said “some dude played on some song…”

  • @gimmeagig
    @gimmeagig Рік тому +2

    You guys are just such monster players LOL

  • @ryanaiden
    @ryanaiden Рік тому +5

    train the brain by playing an accelerating rhythm that then goes into a half tempo version

  • @triplespace007
    @triplespace007 11 місяців тому +1

    Threw off that cymbal pretty well.

  • @RaymondPeckIII
    @RaymondPeckIII Рік тому +1

    OMG the poly rhythm at 1:08!

  • @dominikn19
    @dominikn19 Рік тому +2

    1:07 What kind of metric modulation is that?

  • @GuildF40
    @GuildF40 11 місяців тому

    The difference between 'playing with' and 'listening too', other band members !

  • @Percussius_
    @Percussius_ 11 місяців тому +2

    We all live for when the groove comes home at 1:16

  • @paulwhetstone0473
    @paulwhetstone0473 Рік тому

    Beautiful study in multi rhythm.

  • @cedenoanthony45
    @cedenoanthony45 11 місяців тому +1

    Now that’s the drummer every band wants but hates at the same time 😂

  • @gleventhal
    @gleventhal 8 місяців тому

    Playing a lot of sub-divisions that align with the bass notes makes this a bit easier, in my experience. I think it's harder when there is a lot of syncopation or polyrhythmic stuff with a lot of space. When I played jazz, I lost the form on drum solos a lot. Focus is important. They did a great job here!

  • @Lucas72928
    @Lucas72928 Рік тому

    This man has baguettes on his cymbals

  • @joshtappz
    @joshtappz Рік тому +1

    Ahh yes a video of what guitar players hear when they are trying to tune.

  • @simonr4773
    @simonr4773 Рік тому +1

    Standard day in the modern jazz world

  • @elguitarTom
    @elguitarTom 11 місяців тому +1

    insanely good drummer

  • @YAYACartoons
    @YAYACartoons Рік тому +5

    This got a great meme potential ❤

  • @J_Bits
    @J_Bits 11 місяців тому

    This is what happens inside the calculator when it’s calculating

  • @JoshScalf
    @JoshScalf Рік тому +2

    Petar is a treasure and this is amazing 😄

  • @zacanger
    @zacanger 11 місяців тому +1

    That's why when I was a drummer I never took solos. Except I would throw everyone off unintentionally, because I wasn't a very good drummer.

  • @jambajoby32
    @jambajoby32 Рік тому +4

    U mean drummer tries to throw off drummer playing bass ?

  • @Budabaii
    @Budabaii 11 місяців тому

    good god...
    As a bassist who plays with a drummer who can't just fucking chill.
    I feel this in my soul.

  • @TheAcoustic356
    @TheAcoustic356 Рік тому +17

    Never underestimate the power of the click! A good band can play with a click and make it seem natural. Thanks for the masterclass!

    • @MrNoipe
      @MrNoipe Рік тому +1

      do you think he used a click? thats cheating.

    • @TheAcoustic356
      @TheAcoustic356 Рік тому +5

      @@MrNoipe that’s not cheating. It’s a skill that gigging musicians need to have. Even with a click, that’s hard to do!

    • @halloweenjean
      @halloweenjean Рік тому +1

      @@MrNoipeno i doubt he did

    • @lred1383
      @lred1383 11 місяців тому

      @@TheAcoustic356 for this exercise/showoff thing, the click would indeed be cheating though. A stable pulse to achor yourself to defeats the point of it

    • @TheAcoustic356
      @TheAcoustic356 11 місяців тому

      @@lred1383Most of the musicians here couldn't do this with a click... ;) that's the point in itself.

  • @runemikkelsen3790
    @runemikkelsen3790 Рік тому +5

    Haha very nice. As a long time bassist I have worried more about acompanying drum solos than playing bass solos

  • @owenbruce4120
    @owenbruce4120 11 місяців тому

    Don't hold anything down ...adapt 🎶🎶🎶

  • @nickcarter4006
    @nickcarter4006 Рік тому

    My whole life playing drums I’ve been searching for a bass player like this. All I ever turn up with is kids playing with knives

  • @MadMarco
    @MadMarco Рік тому

    This was way funnier than I expected, great job!

  • @davidbaker2708
    @davidbaker2708 Рік тому

    This makes me so anxious listening to it. I’m cringing and laughing at the same time.

  • @entityyy4321
    @entityyy4321 11 місяців тому

    I’m not even a music guy and this felt like I was getting edged

  • @matthias8267
    @matthias8267 11 місяців тому +1

    Bass player literally played 3 notes for 2 Mins 😂

  • @archivethearchives
    @archivethearchives 11 місяців тому

    Genuinely enjoyed this jam. The rhythm play was immaculate.

  • @ezekieldoughlin1091
    @ezekieldoughlin1091 11 місяців тому

    alternate title: drummer tries to escape pocket

  • @ShaneChaffin
    @ShaneChaffin Рік тому

    the nerve, the absolute nerve

  • @niteshades_promise
    @niteshades_promise Рік тому +1

    Sounds like every practice with my old band😂🍻

  • @lhenn_
    @lhenn_ Рік тому

    1:45 Jesus, that's where I would ultimatively be lost...

  • @PersonalityCoreCo
    @PersonalityCoreCo 11 місяців тому

    This is how you make prog. Keep doing it.

  • @jackmccandless1366
    @jackmccandless1366 Рік тому

    Over here on my couch eating a bowl of pasta, reacting more audibly than I would any tv show or movie lmao

  • @banditgrovmalet
    @banditgrovmalet Рік тому +1

    Can't wipe the smile off my face! 😄
    Gr8 fun...gr8 energy! What's not to love!

  • @DOTCOM-yo3sp
    @DOTCOM-yo3sp Рік тому

    These two represent my last two brain cells.

  • @bossdemon
    @bossdemon Рік тому

    Bassist dropped a few notes. Son, I'm disappoint.

  • @NathanaelBruggeman
    @NathanaelBruggeman Рік тому +1

    That drum sound mix is so good - any way you guys can share the approach to get the kit to sound like that?

    • @44gg37
      @44gg37 11 місяців тому

      more overhead mics

  • @mattnieri1202
    @mattnieri1202 Рік тому +1

    1:58 🔥

  • @NonEuclideanTacoCannon
    @NonEuclideanTacoCannon Рік тому

    Oh I love this game. In school we called it "F*ck your couch"

  • @JBEE453
    @JBEE453 11 місяців тому +1

    Lefty drummer through me off in the first 30 seconds 😱

  • @nuclearfrog306
    @nuclearfrog306 Рік тому

    wow, what a phenomenal babysitter

  • @lucvaliquette9212
    @lucvaliquette9212 Рік тому

    Be sure to check out the Chris Dave trio playing criss cross live with Foley on bass if you like things like this

  • @jeremyschiesser7086
    @jeremyschiesser7086 Рік тому +1

    Love when the cymbal stand fails right in front of the camera. Weve all been there before lol

  • @estebanembroglio6371
    @estebanembroglio6371 11 місяців тому

    2:30 thats the intro to hazey jane by nick drake

  • @VineetontheBeat
    @VineetontheBeat Рік тому +1

    Is there a genre of music like this? This gets me hyped! Steady groove with creative drumming. Is that drum and bass?

  • @BigHairyGuitars
    @BigHairyGuitars Рік тому +1

    OH! He broke me at 01:09 !!!!

  • @nathancng
    @nathancng Рік тому

    Petar and the Janjicnotes: Fallen Cymbal edition