Jordan Peterson - Should You Feel Good About Yourself?
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2018
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Psychology professor Dr. Jordan B. Peterson criticizes the modern emphasize on 'self-esteem' of social phsychologists. The message should be more about living up to your potential, especially for young people.
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I wish i had Jordan speaking to me in the back of my mind whenever I doubted myself
Carry recordings of Jordan around on your phone. Same thing. It works!
Should be no problem with an Jordan Peterson app for Neuralink :D
Just ask yourself what you think he might suggest.
Hahaaa me too. That is a great quote
Wish I'd heard this advice sooner. I am often haunted by feelings of regret, feelings that I could be better, annoyed and embarrassed that I've hidden away from things that a functioning adult really can't avoid. My psychologists told me it's okay, that I shouldn't beat myself up, that negative thoughts are part of my illness.
And while part of that is true, it's also enabled me to become stuck thinking that those negative thoughts don't have a damn good point. But they do, and they're telling me to get my shit together. Instead of burying my head and waiting for the guilt to end, I can challenge it. Prove it wrong. And for the first time in years I found out how to actually feel proud of something I'd done again.
It's true I originally fell off my horse because I was criticising myself too much. But instead of being encouraged to hop straight back on and be more careful, I was told it's safer not to try and that I should be content to never ride again. I don't want to be content. To quote my favourite film, it's time to "get busy living, or get busy dying." And after wasting all this time moping about, I most certainly plan to get some good life in.
Good luck brother.
I know its been years since you commented but it just resonated so strongly with me, right down to our favorite movie. Hope you are doing strong man.
@@Filiolus Hey, glad to hear it. Covid was a mess, not gonna lie! Most frustrating couple of years of my life wanting to act on my desire to stop being a lonely, depressed hermit and having very few options. Momentum's finally returning though.
Good luck with your self-improvement journey. :)
Yeah Me Too! As well your story really resonated with me I'm thinking about doctor Peterson and hes just so emotional so wrong
I am slowly clawing my way out of this hole, 3cm progress 2cm sliding back. things are slowly getting better I know I can and I will overcome this
xApemanx good work, keep going 👍🏼
+ xApemanx
It's best to set your goals high and watch yourself reach incremental milestones, starting with the most trivial things. You'll see yourself making progress without getting instant gratification for reaching your destination and killing off the steam you've picked up to that point.
You got it, buddy!
I've been there man, just baby steps and a few years later, youll be shocked at the progress you've made
I am in that pit of despair too. Trying to climb out, do something to be proud of, realize my potential.
Struggling with negative nihilistic thoughts of bitterness, resentment and zero hope. Marinating in a bath of slow burn anger at the unfairness.
It’s so hard to feel grateful... I wish I would wake up grateful... not angry.
There is a difference between feeling good about yourself and feeling content about yourself and your situation. As Mr. Peterson said we should all appreciate ourselves, specially because of our potential. But obsessing with your potential could put too much pressure on your shoulders. It's all about balance.
+ bybyrei
And to tell people to feel good, ignorant and without context to that person's real happenstance instills vain glory and implies that you are sufficient. Whenever people diet or work out they are too easy with complimenting themselves or being praised about the slightest, visual changes, your brain receives the gratification before reaching the destined goal or it's full potential. The results are demotivation - because why would you, you already received the gratification.
bybyrei booo shut up
Schleicherfreund I totally agree. But you should go farther because the situation is WAY worse than that. The amount of damage the self esteem movement keeps doing has crept into every place in society. It is The mainstream. It's like probably the most mainstream value in America today. Anyone can be anything. As long as you put your mind to it.
+ Jack W
Ironically "Anyone can be anything. As long as you put your mind to it." is just as much vapid rhetoric. Not every person is made for everything. Personality traits, IQ, culture, environment, a lot goes into what people realistically can and can't do, with extraordinary lucky individuals in the mix, who do not help about taking up real and genuinely productive people as role models.
Schleicherfreund it's always a basketball player or some leader of a high tech company saying stuff like that. I couldn't play pro ball. I'm not even smart enough to work at space x. That's my brothers dream though. He's in college. He's working his ass off to do it. Even for him it's a pipe dream. But "anyone can do anything" has reached McD employees who, and I've listened to them, have NO appreciation for even everything my brother has done and his dream of working at space x is a pipe dream. It's like people who think there'll be a colony on Mars one day who couldn't explain or understand how much that would cost and couldn't explain how a plane stays in the air. "Anyone can do anything" thus means wildly different things to each person. It means "everything you think is true" in a way.
Every time I hear Peterson speak, I feel I get grounded again to my goals. Not many people can do this for me.
I feel like i learn something every minute i listen to him
3:55 - “Voluntary gradual exposure to what your afraid of is curative.”
Dr JP hits the nail on the head yet again
Man! I needed this and it’s so inspiring and makes clear sense in my chaotic life. I’m so glad so many people are listening to him.
Thank you Jordan Peterson.
Jordan is amazing.
Learn to acknowledge how far you've come in life, and credit yourself for all the hard work and success you've accumulated. But never forget your endless potential to keep pushing and improving yourself, and continue to learn and be humble. Don't just "accept yourself for who you are," and don't just settle for mindless self-content. But also be careful you don't aim for perfection, because perfection is an ideal that no one can achieve. Aim for progress from who you were yesterday, and set realistic yet challenging goals for yourself so that every new year, you can look back at the year past and see how far you've come, again and again. That will help develop true self-esteem and confidence that can't be wavered easily.
Aim for perfection, but be reasonable because it's not gonna happen in one day. Perfection mean complete and total righteousness. It's our deepest desire to be perfect in every way.
It's a blurry (but significant) linguistic line between "confidence" and "esteem", and many use the terms interchangeably. Albert Ellis said what was important was "self-acceptance", not 'esteem'. I.e., accepting your current self (as you aspire to maximize your potential to the extent you choose to), but not needing to feel you're awesome, etc.
This man is amazing
I love how Rogan let's Peterson take the stage with asking the right questions and giving the minimal input not trying to prove that he's equally smart. He listens, that's a sign of intelligence.
if youre 16-20 - all you've done so far is pretty much consume things and get educated (hopefully) and get a toehold in life. i think his point is that you really haven't contributed much (if anything) yet. There are a very few people who have actually contributed to their family/society in a meaningful way before 20, but it's not most of us. Before 20, your family and society has just been investing in you. Now, hopefully, its time to start paying that back. You probably haven't done a whole lot to feel good about besides being spoonfed ...
This is why CBT didn’t do much for me. It’s basically trying to tell yourself that things are better than they are, it really is just a long winded way of saying “look on the bright side”. I can’t go along with that because I value truth above just about anything else, and if things are not good, I can’t pretend that they are. Maybe some people are so delusional that they can happily deceive themselves into believing whatever they want to believe.
The fact that you couldn't accept it means that you have INTEGRITY. Most people don't. Build on that.
love yourself, but strive to be who you want to become
You can remove the first two words there. They’re pretty counterproductive
@@GoldenMushroom64 cuz hating urself i totally productive.
I have been a prisoner of love since the day I was born.
I say: Be happy with your current situation always, but be content for the future. Never strive for perfection, simply strive to be better, because if you do one thing better each day then your brain will reward you with dopamine, but if you want to be perfect immediately, then well you're falling down a never ending tunnel.
The opposite to this is becoming narcissistic, being happy with everything that you are because you create delusions of grandiose. Perhaps the worst thing a person can do in terms of self image.
Perfection is not the same as perfectionism. Of course we're all striving for perfection. Who doesn't want to be perfect? But we should also be patient and reasonable in our expectations of ourselves and others.
I think Joe is right. Confidence is important.
What they were talking about is the typical profile who drops education too soon, and keep themselves on a stupid step of step 1- feel good about yourself. Step 2- ... All what Peterson is sharing. But many people stop on step 1. Few continue their education further than just listening a couple of good advice.
Sometimes your over the top jordan
Self love is more important than self esteem.
ignorant ideologies are NOT real world common sense. You sound like a typical narcissistic.
I used the wrong word for the point I was trying to add. I should have used the word ‘compassion’. Oftentimes we- maybe not you- are too hard on ourselves when we make mistakes. Here’s where the self compassion comes in.
Self-contentedness.
Be confident and proud of yourself, but let those feelings propel you forward.
Self-love is also called narcissism, and it turns people into gigantic jackasses.
Lol and you don’t hype the hero up telling him he can kill the dragon before he’s even seen it. The hero should go in the cave noble, but humble, not cocky. He knows he has the potential to do it, but he knows chaos unmapped has infinite potential. Therefore he must be forthright and truthful, disciplined and aware.
When you tell every kid that they're a special snowflake, that's when nonsense like participation trophies come about.
Razear exactly, I tell these kids everyday they are not special and you should see their world collapses when they go back to their momies.
1:08 What does Joe Rogan say in the background here? "Yes...[??????]"
omg is that joe😍😍
I’m not saying this to hate on Peterson, he’s obviously a smart, influential guy who’s done lots of research BUT my main problem with him is I always feel that his advise is continuously writing a Christian patriarchal narrative. I honestly mean no offence to anyone to who holds these views, as my family are catholic and I was raised as such, but I think in this case Peterson is missing a big point. We shouldn’t wait around to be happy about ourselves until we achieve a goal or something in the future (usually our conscious bases this off something we either can’t achieve in this life eg something impossible or something not on the lis life like going to heaven). I think the problem with this is that you constantly think when you get X then you will be happy. But the truth is that you can spend your whole life chasing X and when most people get it, they usually move X to Y and then chase that. The problem is is that you’re never happy with where you ARE. We as humans find it sooo much easier to do good things to be people we like than hate and even more so for people we love. If we don’t love ourselves for who we are right now then we never will because we’re always focussed on who we will/should be. In my battle with mental illness, the balance of loving myself with wanting myself to improve and to have an aim has been the most important knowledge I’ve gained. Not only am I happy with who I am (despite my inevitable flaws because we will NEVER be perfect) but I’m also using that self love to motivate myself to who I want to be in the future. If we spend our whole life thinking about the future and focusing on our flaws then we will never be happy. As someone who grew up in a catholic home, this was the main point of focus of my upbringing. This only led to self hatred. It has only been by staying present and not waiting around for the actions I’m doing to make me happy and instead focusing on my happiness and improvement in every moment, have I found true and non-judgemental happiness. I improve because I love myself and want the best for myself and NOT because I see it as hating myself and needing to change. No disrespect to anyone who is religious, that’s how I was brought up in it. I am not aesthetic or anti-religion. All the best of luck on your journey.
I will repeat now what I said two years ago in a response to someone else - self-love is also called narcissism, and it turns people into gigantic jackasses.
You are doing self love completely wrong if u are being narcissistic. Its more likely they were narcissistic before and use self love as an excuse for their horrid behavior, which seems more likely.
Well time to ipdate my tinder prof
Well said Dr Peterson. Some people feel good about themselves and they are just arrogant. Empty vase but full of crap
He sounds super contradictory and illogical here so I'll summarise it for people who didn't get it.
From what I've understood, he's saying that you're good enough as you are and you should have confidence in that, but you shouldn't be satisfied with you as you are now and you should always strive to be better and reach your maximum potential.
Why not hit the reset button?
So you're stealing content and putting ads on this to make money are you fucking kidding me?
hard to buy into this from a man who has battled severe depression. very surprising hearing this from a psychologist. and he's wrong. you have to accept yourself as you are today first. if you can't, then you need to change yourself quickly so you can believe that. You can't put yourself in a position where you can only justify your existence based on what you might become.
Accepting yourself is not the same as feeling good about yourself. We should acknowledge our accomplishments, but not stay fixated on them. There is always room for improvement. We're not perfect. We have selfish tendencies, we're cowardly, self righteous, etc. And we know these flaws in ourselves. Our own conscience doesn't allow us to rest even for a minute unless we are actively pursuing to better ourselves. And I don't think Jordan Peterson's depression should discredit his analyses. Depression doesn't have the same cause and solution for everybody. For some people it's a passing phase, for others it's a chemical inbalance. It could also be his work environment. Therapists make up the highest percentage of suicide rates, and is it any wonder? He's probably helped enough people with depression, though, to know what he's talking about.
His hair though
Sergio Carranza He’s perfect
Jordan Peterson is to education what George Carlin was to comedy.
And entertaining about it.
We're all sinner and fall short of what is expected of us. We should feel shame and only then can we feel good.
Rubbish! Love is a much better motivator than shame. Shame will eventually stab you in the back (through self sabotage) because in order for it to continue to exist, you must do something you are ashamed of. You GUARANTEE failure with that approach.
It's true what he's saying but number 1. Doesn't sound like he's been there. Getting a degree doesn't make you understand. Number 2. The reason why we will always be living in this horrible life is because we will never be brave enough to make it acceptable and understandable. All we can do is willy wonka it. Suger coat shit. Pain will never stop. It will scar you for life. All you can do is live in the fantasy it never happened. Just to make yourself feel better. Just to pretend to yourself everythings ok
Disappointed to see Peterson elevating racist black Muslims today on twitter. For all the unquestionably great work he does, he undoes some of it by extending himself to areas in which he knows very little about - namely Islam.
acshully he’s wrong becuz u shood aways feel gud abowt yourself
I think this is a brilliant satire but the sad part is that I can't tell for sure.
i was right with jordan peterson until the last word -- its peoplekind...jeez...../sarcasm
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
-John 3:16-18
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
-Revelation 22:14-15
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
-Acts 16:30-31
The good news... Keep it up brother.
🙏🏻
No wonder his daughter has arthritis.
Kyle Mecca no wonder his daughter is the CAO of 2 companies at the age of 26