Im confused can I do this with my i5 and get more fps ? I think it uses less cores in Fortnite cuz in valorant I can activate multithread rendering idk if it’s fire cores but I get huge fps boost
Ok people who have been talking shit. Just look at the config even of he has done some tweak in the system the config should reset automatically when a new component is inserted. There is another thing why does it say 12 core instead of 16 core. Does that make any sense to you all. The video is about windows being dumb and it shows one way or another. Just dont assume oh he tweak the setting before then why is it saying 12 instade of 16. Just explain to me I am also dumb.
hey i recently bought a gaming laptop for blender and when i watched this video i thought i didnt and i cant change the cpu so it would be fine but when i chacked in advance option this that number of processer wasn't chacked so should i check it and select 12 like in this video?
im surprised he put this video out... sorta calls his proficiency in what he talks about on this channel into question imo. totally self inflicted, and should have been easy to verify if it was a default windows setting or not prior to doing all the effort of making this video
@@project_pothi Sad but yeah. So much blind hate for certain things that you just go "Welp it probably does X cuz it sucks anyway" But thats just journalism and reporting in general these days.
@@lowlife5011 i already was putting his credibility into question since his old videos where he kept making factually wrong claims about different topics.
I'm like 99.9% sure this was fabricated by him for the video. Neither on my i7 2600, my 3800X nor my current 5800X3D had even remotely issues like that. The option is off by default but maybe he tested something in the past and forgot or, more likely, did this on purpose. Windows ability to recognize turn off and on on the core means Windows knows the processor. Why? Because the Mainboard's BIOS passes the info to Windows on boot
I have never once entered msconfig before, I am currently using a 4 month old PC, basically fresh, I checked out msconfig for fun and the box was checked, albeit I haven't switched CPUs, meaning that my cores amount was correct, so there was no issue but it was definitely not off by default for me
I ' am 100% sure this happens .This has happened to me me twice on two different PCs . The first one i upgraded from a I7 3770k 4 core 8 thread to an I5 13600 14 total core 20 thread. Windows was showing 4 core 8 threads. I thought I was scammed buy the seller and was in the process of returning it, when i ran into a video similar to this one , and yes it fixed it. My other PC upgraded to I5 12400 had same problem same fix.
the default setting for the number of processors in msconfig is unchecked so you are 100% right. windows is always using all available cores with the default settings... only if the user or a "tuning" program was messing around with settings it could have be changed.
This isn't a window being dumb issue. It's clear that you messed with the settings some time in the past. MSCONFIG does not do selective startup by default. This only happens if a user changes a setting, such as how many cores the computer is allowed to utilize. I know this because toyed with changing core counts before in order to see how it effects overall temps. This is simply a user forgot they changed a setting problem.
Ya right he did mess around settings before and that should not be enabled and its only made for debug or testing around older software that does not work with to much cores.......
That option is unchecked by default, unless you already have it checked previously at lower cores, then after reboot it will show you that max amount. I know this because I turned off my E cores before by choosing 12 on my 12600K system, and after reboot, it will always show 12, you can't change it back to 16 unless you uncheck that option back, do another reboot, then it will show you 16. You're not supposed to check that option anyway if you're not planning to disable your CPU cores purposedly, so if you somehow played around with that option and checked it, then you upgraded to a better CPU, then it's not Windows fault that it won't go past that core amount, because you already instructed Windows to limit the cores to that amount.
OP clearly messed with it a long time ago and forgot about it. Many many many years ago, putting in the core count manually sped up boot times. Doesn't help on 10 or 11 though.
@@quasarix Some games perform better with the E cores turned off, like Starfield. The E cores have a lower frequency, and when improperly utilized it hurts your performance. If you find that your game is CPU limited (by looking at GPU busy), turning off the E cores might eek out some more performance. Or it won't, the idea is to check.
Option existed since Windows 2000 (the first time NT Kernel which we all use to this day). Its a persistent feature especially if you benchmark a lot of PC components such as processors from the same vendor. The reason why the feature is even there is for debugging purposes for technicians to determine if there's an issue with the Processor itself.
@@Rickenbacker451 Why not just use processlasso in that case, so you don't gimp your system and can use the additional thread(s) / core(s) for other tasks like running a server, etc.
It's also good to use for benchmarking so you can see how a game scales with core count. In most games they don't scale much at all after 6 cores/12 threads and adding 2 more cores and 4 more threads often doesn't even gain you 1% although that is starting to change (finally) with current gen consoles all being 8 core/16 thread so some DX12 games do scale up to and even past 8 cores/16 threads (Marvel's Spider-Man comes to mind)
I think the box is by default unchecked, so it should know how many threads there are on the system. The only way it would have been checked is if you were playing with it at one time, directly.
User problem, not OS problem. This option is not enabled by default, and its recommended to make a clean install of your OS whenever you upgrade your CPU (on any OS)
It's possible for other software to change it, perhaps he installed something that did this in the background. A bugged BIOS update for example, could possibly do this, or a powershell script could disable some of those cores using Set-CimInstance, totally possible malware could do this in the background (you could argue that's still a user issue I guess).
I have never once entered msconfig before, I am currently using a 4 month old PC, basically fresh, I checked out msconfig for fun and the box was checked, albeit I haven't switched CPUs, meaning that my cores amount was correct, so there was no issue but it was definitely not off by default for me
@@mldalexyou'd hope so, yet I've encountered some manufacturers who attempt to bundle their crapware and custom config settings to be applied during a Bios update (see Lenovo and Dell for particularly obnoxious violators)
@@futuza Yup, proprietary gaming pcs setups are not the same and I would suggest not buying them as most come with lockouts that make your components work like shite.
@@ArtiomJulea That's not a issue, it intentional. The reason why it doesn't have 16 there because unchecking the option defaults to 16 and if u wanna reduce it for some reason then you select 12 or less!
maybe this isn't a windows issue, but i have seen windows do some dumbass shit in the last decade of win ten, it made me not want to get win 11 because of how bad ten was in the beginning and through most of the years, i swear we are the beta testers of their next windows version every time now.
@@TechnoFreak-IN if you uncheck it, restart and then check it, the maximum value will be 16 If you have 16 threads, you should be able to select 16, 15, 14, 13 etc.
No actually, this can happen if you read down in other user's conversation threads. Windows will sometimes save core counts between somehow. It's not everyone, it's not every time. But several are showing this, and they hadn't even known about this feature so...
It's one of those thing people say "Make your pc faster by selecting the max amount of threads on MSCONFIG", so you go there and set that. Some time later you forget about that and switch to a better CPU with more cores, now your cores are limited. Setting that to the max amount of threads won't make your computer faster, it's the same as disabled, but once you have a lower amount selected, that's where problems starts. Selected max threads = disabled, selected less threads = crippled CPU. As simple as that.
I have never once entered msconfig before, I am currently using a 4 month old PC, basically fresh, I checked out msconfig for fun and the box was checked, albeit I haven't switched CPUs, meaning that my cores amount was correct, so there was no issue but it was definitely not off by default for me
It's an extremely easy way to figure out which channels are abusing dogsihtTube's removal of core features. Every last troll puts this in their FPS boosting videos.
This guy is dragging out the solution and turning it into a Vox video essay. Edit: after watching the video I had already done this because I just watched a video on optimization. That video fit the solution into a 25 second segment of a 5 minute video full of solutions. This guy would make that video a 20 part series worth an hour each video.
Normally that setting comes unchecked and Windows always uses the maximum amount of cores. Either a windows update or a software must have changed that setting. I see that setting being mentioned in many "windows optimize" videos. If you followed a guide in the past, you may have changed it yourself and simply don't remember doing it so. I don't know how long you have been using the same Windows installation but I definitely recommend reformatting Windows at least every year because stuff like these happen where Windows Registry has a lot of trash in it
wdym reformat? is it possible to reinstall without losing anything? or do you mean wiping the windows drive. The only solution i can find for reinstalling windows without losing installed programs just led me to the update tool.
He changed it himself in order to make content, simple as that. It's not a bug that exists and this video will help no one, which he is well aware of, but he wants the money and views.
@@JustGetAHous I think there's a way to only reinstall Windows files and not touch the user files but I wouldn't recommend it since you rish losing stuff. So you would need to save everything on a separate drive and reinstall all of your programs later. Definitely takes a couple hours but a fresh Windows can feel really responsive, at least imo
@bluefrisky I checked out his older videos it's quiet hard to really tell anything when the settings and graphic cards are not matching. Still, Vex has some amount of knowledge about PC parts, checking out the task manager and seeing 6 cores should have been immediate red flag. Everyone opens up the task manager at least a couple times a week. Either way, it is a bad look for him. It still could be a bug, considering he tries out multiple CPUs in a motherboard I believe. But this video is definitely a clickbait and wouldn't blame anyone who thinks Vex doing it on purpose. People probably clicked hoping to boost FPS on their old PCs, instead showing something fairly simple and a thing that you probably shouldn't ever touch.
No one should have this issue by default unless they messed around with the setting cause out of the box that option comes unchecked in fresh windows so its not really a windows problem rather it's an user created problem, the video is extremely misleading
How to not fall them when you are new? @joekickass8943 0 seconds ago Who knows what to do to even increase performance in Windows and gaming other than upgrading. Seems like the only way.
As others have said sounds like a user error rather than windows. But anyway, would it not make more sense to do a fresh install when doing a system upgrade like this? Start clean and have less risk of these kinda issues?
That may be so 10 years ago because CPU brands (Intel / AMD) have their own registry tags which also pretty easy to fix via registry hacks. Nowadays with Windows 10 / 11, it is capable of dealing with hardware changes. Though some users will do their "manual" thingy which disable auto detections like the case here. I have upgraded my computer, still using the same OS drive, from lesser cores to more cores without this issue.
not really. If you have intel cpus than they have different cache sizes and for amd they have different chiplet designs. You can test 8 core amd cpu as 6 core but not 12 core as 8 core cpu
I upgraded from a 5600x (6 core) to a 5800X3D without any issues. What I suspect is that when you had the 6 core you were messing around with it and you changed that setting in msconfig, and forgot about it. Normally that setting is ALWAYS disabled. It's only enabled manually by the user for troubleshooting (or testing purposes). So, no, Windows is not stupid. (Well, it is stupid sometimes, but not about this). That was straight up user error.
@@omareidah792 That is an excellent question. However no reviewer on the entire internet actually does real life scenarios when comparing CPUs. They always test 1080p low settings to increase the CPU bottleneck, but that's not how people use them. If you have a powerful GPU you will run it at 4k high settings. In which case, the upgrade might not be worth it. But I don't know. Because nobody is willing to test that. I upgraded because I went from a 2080 to a 7900XT, which is a huge jump in performance and I was worried that the little 5600x might not cut it, but again, I don't know. Because I upgraded the CPU before I upgraded the GPU, so I didn't have an immediate before/after scenario to compare it. With the 2080 I did not notice much difference, but with a 7900XT? I honestly don't know. (I'm certain that Starfield runs better but that game is extremely CPU bottlenecked so it's the exception, not the rule).
That option is not even checked by default why would you enable it following some placebo tweaks ? can you really blame Windows if you set this yourself and forgot to change it ? am i missing something?
The reason u only found 1 forum post about it is because its not a problem bro. U fabricated this, this is not something that "accidentally" happens. Windows may be worse then Linux distros but I can assure u when it comes to the bootloader and hardware configs Windows knows whats perfect for your hardware. Its a common myth that u cant move Windows installs between hardware but u can bcs Windows just reconfigures itself. Its alot more flexible then u think.
Best advice for PC gamers who still don't feel comfortable with Linux for whatever reason: try to keep everything away from C: and keep only the bare essentials there. Move Steam library, Documents Folder where a lot of games save files to another drive so it becomes very easy and painless to do a full reinstall. And then, every year or two-years or when upgrading CPU always do a full reinstall. Many less headaches to deal with.
😅 This is probably good advice for windows too lol. It's annoying how so many programs default to sticking stuff on the C: drive though, meaning you either have to remember to manually change it, OR in some cases you might not be able to change it.
@@mydogbuddy07Not for windows "too", this is advice for windows. he mentioned Linux because he's saying if you're not comfortable with Linux, you should at least do this as a windows user... on Linux there's no such thing as "c:"
Ctrl + Shift + Esc > Performance. Check if the system recognizes all your CPU cores and threads (including E cores for intel CPUs) and also if the RAM speed is actually running at it's OC profile. Some updates might bring them back to native speed so you have to run your profile back up again. I've never had any problem with my CPU but my XMP profile did set down to 2666MHz once 😂 thanks for this video
I have one question, Why was the box checked in the first place? By default, it is unchecked, valued 0 meaning use all cores. Any reason to manually select highest value.
If you have Ryzen Master and use one of the boost modes it will change the number of cores to half. Noticed this when I was messing around with my R9 3900x went from 12 to 6 cores and was a lot slower.
As a lot of people have pointed out already this is a user error not an OS issue. However id also like to point out that the default "timeout" setting is 30s instead of his 3s so its even more obvious he played around with these settings before. Him still denying all of that just further discredits him.
Because Windows has all these settings unchecked at default. So it means he had to actively activate those before himself. Windows itself would never do that thus making this a user error. He probably did it years back and forgot about it but thats on him.@@dawienel1142
He enabled the option by himself. Which made his PC slower and then he got mad at Windows for letting him do it or he just forgot that its his fault.@@dawienel1142
Upgraded 5600x > 5800X3D on b450, updated bios, manually removed the old CPU entries from device manager & updated chipset drivers, same windows install no issue. This should be picked up on initial benchmarks/stresstesting of a new system or CPU upgrade when confirming stability of the CPU & Ram, would show up in cinebench multicore tests.
The option is on because you've checked it before,usually is disabled and windows detects automatically the number of cores that can use, just uncheck the option and you will see that windows detect 16 cores
A side note: I have a 13700k for my office pc and I like the extra E-cores. I dedicate the 8 P-cores (16 threads) to a large task and then I dedicate the 8 E-cores to my browser through task manager so I can watch youtube, social media etc and it's a smooth experience. I tried dedicating cores with my 5800x3d and it doesn't work nearly as well.
When you had the Ryzen 5 1600 you may have used msconfig to select 6 cores because it is a 6 core processor thinking it would help windows boot speed (like some old guides were saying). Unfortunately as you have worked out it is actually the maximum threads and ends up limiting your physical cores. This sort of thing is why reinstalling Windows when you do a major system upgrade is a good idea.
i realy dont know abaut this problem , i do the same tihngs , switch from ryzen 5 1600AF to ryzen7 5800X3D and i still have 6cores 12 logical processors! THX mate
A lot of these comments here seem to miss this completely. There is no scenario where Windows would enable this setting by default. The creator had this changed themselves, probably by following some "Boost windows guide". And now "fixed" it by changing it back to Stock :'D
DO NOT CHANGE THIS SETTING... It's meant as troubleshooting purposes. Windows uses all cores as it sees need for them. If you change that setting your liable to brick your system. Your games run on certain cores for certain reasons. If you change it to run on all cores at all times (which most of the time this setting does nothing), you will limit your CPU lifespan. Or kill it completely. If you're getting fps stuttering just undervolt your gpu for more stable performance. It's not hard, and there are hundreds of tutorials online about it.
Thank you sooooo much. I optimized my pc like twice when I first got it and it’s had a hard time running more demanding games and I’ve always wondered why when it had better specs than my friends and get basically the same fps, only to find out I screwed myself over at some point looking through these comments.
Wow fucking great, I had this option enabled and disabled it because of this video, now my pc is in a constant blue screen loop which I can’t get out of. Error code : system thread exception not handled. Thank you. Fucking great
this video puts into question the profiency of most tech channels. a lot of these channels are random dudes that learned "tech" from youtube shorts and decided to make a career on youtube out of it. a sad state of affairs, really.
Hello! I just want to say I appreciate your transparency about this! Everyone makes mistakes it's just whether they're addressed or not. Props for that. I also have the 5800X3D and when i went to msconfig the box was already unchecked. I upgraded from a 3900X (also a 12 core processor like your 5900X) quite a bit ago so there was an upgrade involved like your situation. After looking at some of the comments I see people saying it most likely was user error. We had similar situations and it only happened to one of us. Not saying that solidifies the theory but it does make it more likely. Either way, I'm thankful you addressed it. Also side question: Have you ever looked into PBO2Tuner and setting custom curves on each of your cores with the 5800X3D? It's a great way to improve your performance and I've had all my cores running on a -30 curve ever since. Essentially, it lets you achieve lower voltages alongside higher core frequencies. Temps are way better too.
Not every chip can get -30 so don’t get worried just try -25 instead or clear cmos if needed and dial it in. Totally worth doing though. Its a hilariously hot chip for is frequency until you do this.
My Gawd. I've got a i9 10850k and only now do I use all of the cores. It's outright stupid. THANK YOU! I was like, why is my CPU running at just 4800MHZ and temps were in the 90*. The graphics card were bottlenecked to 70-80%. Now, GPU at 99% and CPU at 60-65*C and 60-70% utilization. Loads of headroom left. Thank you for this. Too bad I spent like 3 hours in BIOS before watching your video. Thanks again.
Not a "dumb issue" unless you don't mess with it. It's OFF by default. In my 15 years of building computers, I haven't seen this option turned on. Also, it's recommended to do a clean Windows reinstall when changing CPU and/or MB. This option is used for CPU debugging and for playing older games which don't work with more cores/threads than what was normal or by design for that game's time.
It's one of these "tricks" in a lot of "tuning" guides. So a bunch of people might have it enabled after following one of these guides, but don't notice anything, because they never change the CPU.
Nice clickbait, Windows on default doesn't have "Selective startup" option checked. It's always on "Normal startup". You did something in MSCONFIG before and messed up. My Lenovo Legion 5i Pro 2022 with an i7-12700H and RTX 3070 150W always had "Normal startup". You probably installed a modded Windows.
This is not a bug, this is USER ERROR. The fact the box was checked, means at some point you "Manually" had to have set this option when you had your 6-core installed. As this is unchecked by default, and can only be checked manually, nothing else is ever going to check the box. Thus it will always be 6-cores due to this being checked. Obvious that you carried the same windows install across CPU swapping. If it was a fresh install this would not happen, or you remembered that you checked the box in the past. To top that off this means when you had your 12-core Ryzen installed between the 6-core and your X3D 8-Core, you were also only using 6-cores, thus leaving half your CPU cores on the table. Seems like you missed this as well.
That option is normally always turned off by default so this suggest that those MSCONFIG settings have been set manually at some point in time. Nothing weird there.
I had this issue, thank you so much! I swapped cpu and motherboard, and kept the old windows install. But it was ticked in and I sure didn't go in there to select that option.
hey vex, since the new gpu generation have little peformance and efficiency increase compared to previous gen, wouldn't it be interesting to test their peformance on same wattage like, for maybe 65, 75, 100, 125. or even 45w to compare it to a igpu?
C'mon now, you know damn well this isn't true. It's a know fact that the 40 series without taking FG in to account is a bigger jump than 10 to 20 or 20 to 30 was. The 4090 is one of Nvidia's biggest performance leaps ever, but seeing as it's a ridiculously top end card you can exclude that and focus on the 4080 or the 4070, which compared to their 30 series siblings, were also a massive jump. I'm a 4090 owner, and it uses less power than my 3080 did, I had both set to 450w and the 4090 only goes over 350w when RT is cranked, even if the 3080 is left at it's default 350w (for the FTW3 Ultra) it's still a tier below and pulling around the same amount of power. I'm not sure who exactly started telling people the 40 series was so terrible, but it's probably the same people who said the 30 series was good, when it was a carbon copy of the 20 series, just releasing the 80Ti later to make the 3080 look good.
I see a ton of commonts about how this video is about an issue no normal gamer would have but this actually happened to me granted I went from a 4 core to a 6 core, i did some optimizations that might have turned that setting on but i knew when i started my PC to check task manager to make sure all cores were reconzied and they were not. So yes this issue is rare and happened to a very select few people its real.
" i did some optimizations" - thats exactly the problem. You watched a youtube video of some guy having no idea what he is talking about and followed it blindly. The issue is within you, not within windows.
@@e0nema0tak1v pipe down lil bro. U have no idea why i would do those optimization. Unfortunately some developers don’t know how to optimize their game so i have to do it for them by forcing windows to use my physical cores in a certain way. So please dont hit me with that “your the problem”. Or maybe ur just here to pick losing fights.
@@skorpers Makes sense, ive found some similar looking stuff in bios on a few occasions with xmp profiles and cores not being enabled correctly, but never in actual windows
This is not dumb. I saw this in core i7 3rd gen. Enabling that option divides all works in all of the cores that makes you lose 10-15% performance. On the other hand, disabling this option will make the app use less threads/cores which increases the performance. I tried that in gta 5 playing in gtx1050 when it released.
@@lilpain1997 It's possible for other software to change it, perhaps he installed something that did this in the background. A bugged BIOS update for example, could possibly do this. For example a powershell script could disable some of those cores using Set-CimInstance, totally possible malware could do this in the background (you could argue that's still a user issue I guess).
@@skorpers - Removing devices and drivers manually DOES NOT clean up registry that can interfere with new hardware. You will also have various files lying around that can interfere if from the same brand, as many of these files and folders are not entirely cleaned up.
@@Sanzor1984 Learn to extrapolate. It's really hard to explain things to someone that doesn't want to learn. I said "these are examples" multiple times and you're still finding something to bitch about, jesus christ. It also doesn't take long to learn the registry if you really care, but uninstallers DO in fact have access to the registry. And you can even use a scanner in order to verify registry entries yourself without even going into regedit. This is something you SHOULD know how to do, if you think you have any business telling others what to do. You just want to be right so I'm not gonna waste time with someone who wants to shit in their own water lmfao.
I actually had this problem within the past year in my 7 year old build, I have never changed the processor. I just randomly felt like things were getting weird and checked the device manager performance graphs and noticed cores missing on my 6700k. I guess its possible that its always been happening and it just wasn't bad enough for me to notice, but I do feel like it was a pretty sudden change. Its technically true that I may have changed something and forgotten but its only had one processor the whole time so that doesn't make sense. Could it be some other program? Thats possible too, but if that is the case then its still something I didn't do and its a good idea to check.
@@TheMeanJoeGreen Do you not understand that if I never had a different processor in then the default should be the amount of cores that my processor has? Even if I was the kind of person to follow guides without knowing what I am hitting, which I would say I am not, it would not produce this error. Beyond that, if I fiddled around with something and my performance tanked then I would have noticed, because it was a performance hit I noticed literally out of the blue without even looking for it. Nothing you are saying makes sense.
@@BlGDaddyRob He even said he didnt notice at first. If you have no written or tracked reference, its easy to do like he did. You're just wrong about this. He will come out tomorrow about his error...
Short Version: You probably don't have this problem, unless you accidentally changed this setting yourself. If you want to check, go to 3:38 in the video. Vid is mostly filler and maybe misleading.
2:51 Just an advice regarding audience and quality video, when you say something wrong and in post edit you correct it visually, it would be nice if you used AI or a text to speech software online to say the corrected word or line. This would extend to blind folks or people playing the video while listening and not watching. Love your vids bro, keep it up.
Why are so many idiots defending the whole "Its windows´s fault for not reseting the settings you have set yourself." Its like complaining to the waiter for bringing you the food you ordered instead of something you might have enjoyed more
Bro made a video just to say "hey i'm dumb I forgot that I activated manually an automatic option a long time ago which is basically disabled to manually activate cores and I blame Windows" 🤡🤡
Thank you for bringing this issue and the appropriate solution! I'm currently using the RYZEN 5 1600X with intention to upgrade later. It's good to know about this before I make that change.
Had this exact problem with the 5800x3D, upgraded from the 2600X. Ran a few benchmarks and saw the performance was lacking. Looked into it and saw that yes, it was running my new 8 core as a 6 core. All I had to do was install and run Ryzen Master, which told Windows what CPU it was and from then it was all good. I even had to update the BIOS to be sure it would recognize the 5800x3D, I figured that would be a fresh start. But I had to keep my 2600X in while doing this which was my problem. Good video, a lot of people bought the 5800x3D as a final upgrade to milk the older AMD platform. I'm sure it will help some of them.
Actually this might be caused by Ryzen Master. I had a 3900X and it had an optional game mode that made the cpu only use 6 cores in game mode. It's possible Ryzen Master accomplishes this by ticking that simple check. Just a thought.
Imagine avoiding an Operating system with an option that actually works... because.. it works.. Wow dude..It would be much better if i had an option to set stuff to a number and the operating system just ignored that number and put whatever he wanted.. that is how we progress as mankind.. right?...
That "number of processors" box in msconfig isn't checked by default in Windows installations. That it was checked for you means you checked it yourself at some point and forgot all about it, or perhaps some dubious 'system optimizer' software you used at some point did so.
I have a i9 10850k in my system (10C/20T). My task manager didn't have an issue with showing less cores than I have. But I went into the msconfig and my cpu count was grayed out and showing only 1. (I never messed with it beforehand). I unchecked the option to ungray my cpu count setting and set it to max. I got around a 15% fps boost.
What I'm assuming if you ever used process lasso or anything similar with cpu parking or anything like that the program might of changed this setting if you personally don't remember switching it
Thanks for this! Just swapped my CPU this week and God knows how long it would take for me to figure this out. Everyone told me there was no problem with a simple CPU swap without a Win reinstall (7900 for 7800x3d since I only do gaming). Now I wonder what other hidden side effects might be lurking? Simple is never simple it seems.
This was clicked off by default in Windows 10, in my version anyway. Using Ryzen 5 5600 6 core, and showing correctly. What i found out about RTX 3050 instead is swapping from quality to performance can make a huge deal, i am keeping it in balanced now, since i like a bit of both and i dont wana burn my component. Would use performance mode into multiplayer games, and quality into single player games. I mainly play single player games, very rarely some multiplayer. Anyway, check that option for NVIDIA cards.
this is like what can happen if you don't do a fresh windows install on a cpu upgrade. when you change CPU/Motherboard, you really need to install a fresh windows install
Even though the most upvoted comments claims different. It is possible that this happens without tinkering. My fresh installed Windows 11 had limited my cores to 16 for some reason even though my 5950X has 32. Might be some 3rd Party software like Ryzen Master that did this, but I had EXACTLY this scenario! As I said on a PC I use for 3 years with this CPU and it was freshly installed 2 weeks ago.
People should just reinstall windows after cpu or gpu upgrades because a lot can wrong if you don't. The main install of windows downloads specific drivers for your current compononents and chooses specific settings to these components so when you change your cpu or gpu those settings won't change automatically
dude... since 2019 battle royales always had AWFUL stutters, my pc was going to 100 fps to 0, i changed my hdd with an ssd but it never fixed it. i can't believe after all this time THIS was the problem. i cannot thank you enough, thank you so much my pc was set to 4 lmao
Hmm. Is this the result of a drop-in CPU upgrade on an existing install or a fresh installation? I upgraded a 3600x to a 5800x and will investigate this tonight. I don't recall ever manually setting any options in regards to core counts.
Windows does not check that by default, this was user error. As long as you didn't mess with boot options yourself then when you look tonight, the box should not be checked and your device should be completely normal.
3:27 It in no way can be used as proof of detection and knowledge of how to use it, it just proves the device is connected and the interface can fetch it's name. it's just text, it could run on 1 core and still it will fetch the original name.
Thanks for letting me know about this screen. I didn't have this issue as I do fresh installs quite often, thats why being able to manage windows installs from this screen is nice. and now I know about it.
I’m gonna have to look into this. I’m using my copy of windows 10 that originally had a ryzen 5 2600, I slapped in a 7 5800x and then I put together a whole new pc and moved that hard drive with the cpu being a 7 7700x. So I really think I need to make this adjustment lol
people change cpu's didn't check boot config file was made for older cpu...it happens to apple users as well since both don't use monolith kernel during boot process, it boot directly to system32 system library and kernel drivers load afterwards during login process ...its great benefit of having microkernel designed to keep kernel in different location from system32 library ...vs linux is huge compromise if hacker can easily compromise the kernel during boot process
Thank you so much I watched another video where I "played" around on these settings and I couldnt figure out why my Pc was way slower and games like Elden Ring had a 30% FPS drop appreciate the Video!!!
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Bro thought he cooked
true lol
Im confused can I do this with my i5 and get more fps ? I think it uses less cores in Fortnite cuz in valorant I can activate multithread rendering idk if it’s fire cores but I get huge fps boost
@@Uncle_Fentanyl no im sorry but mulithread rendering just uses all the threads only check this if you changed the proccesor
Ok people who have been talking shit. Just look at the config even of he has done some tweak in the system the config should reset automatically when a new component is inserted. There is another thing why does it say 12 core instead of 16 core. Does that make any sense to you all. The video is about windows being dumb and it shows one way or another. Just dont assume oh he tweak the setting before then why is it saying 12 instade of 16. Just explain to me I am also dumb.
I build PCs for a living and this has NEVER been checked on any systems by default.
"And you probably never will!" - Fred Sanford
it was on mine
hey i recently bought a gaming laptop for blender and when i watched this video i thought i didnt and i cant change the cpu so it would be fine but when i chacked in advance option this that number of processer wasn't chacked so should i check it and select 12 like in this video?
yup.
and usually you reinstall windows after such a big hardwarechange anyways.
yea mine aint checked neither i just checked lol
Blaming windows for something you changed yourself is like attacking the waiter for bringing you the food you ordered
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im surprised he put this video out... sorta calls his proficiency in what he talks about on this channel into question imo. totally self inflicted, and should have been easy to verify if it was a default windows setting or not prior to doing all the effort of making this video
@@lowlife5011 thats the majority of tech youtubers.
@@project_pothi Sad but yeah. So much blind hate for certain things that you just go "Welp it probably does X cuz it sucks anyway"
But thats just journalism and reporting in general these days.
@@lowlife5011 i already was putting his credibility into question since his old videos where he kept making factually wrong claims about different topics.
I'm like 99.9% sure this was fabricated by him for the video. Neither on my i7 2600, my 3800X nor my current 5800X3D had even remotely issues like that. The option is off by default but maybe he tested something in the past and forgot or, more likely, did this on purpose. Windows ability to recognize turn off and on on the core means Windows knows the processor. Why? Because the Mainboard's BIOS passes the info to Windows on boot
I have never once entered msconfig before, I am currently using a 4 month old PC, basically fresh, I checked out msconfig for fun and the box was checked, albeit I haven't switched CPUs, meaning that my cores amount was correct, so there was no issue but it was definitely not off by default for me
I ' am 100% sure this happens .This has happened to me me twice on two different PCs . The first one i upgraded from a I7 3770k 4 core 8 thread to an I5 13600 14 total core 20 thread. Windows was showing 4 core 8 threads. I thought I was scammed buy the seller and was in the process of returning it, when i ran into a video similar to this one , and yes it fixed it. My other PC upgraded to I5 12400 had same problem same fix.
the default setting for the number of processors in msconfig is unchecked so you are 100% right. windows is always using all available cores with the default settings... only if the user or a "tuning" program was messing around with settings it could have be changed.
Yeah he's talking shit.
I upgraded from 7700k to 13600kf and this was an issue no cap
4mins to get to the point and it leads to a UI that no normal user will have ever seen. Cpus dont come not using cores.
This isn't a window being dumb issue. It's clear that you messed with the settings some time in the past. MSCONFIG does not do selective startup by default. This only happens if a user changes a setting, such as how many cores the computer is allowed to utilize. I know this because toyed with changing core counts before in order to see how it effects overall temps. This is simply a user forgot they changed a setting problem.
UA-camrs have to make money from useless content somehow
You are with out a doubt 150% right
lol i was going to type the same thing basically until I started reading the comments. but i was being nicer about it
I was going to type the same.. My CPU shows all cores and i have not messed with Windows settings..
Ya right he did mess around settings before and that should not be enabled and its only made for debug or testing around older software that does not work with to much cores.......
That option is unchecked by default, unless you already have it checked previously at lower cores, then after reboot it will show you that max amount.
I know this because I turned off my E cores before by choosing 12 on my 12600K system, and after reboot, it will always show 12, you can't change it back to 16 unless you uncheck that option back, do another reboot, then it will show you 16.
You're not supposed to check that option anyway if you're not planning to disable your CPU cores purposedly, so if you somehow played around with that option and checked it, then you upgraded to a better CPU, then it's not Windows fault that it won't go past that core amount, because you already instructed Windows to limit the cores to that amount.
OP clearly messed with it a long time ago and forgot about it.
Many many many years ago, putting in the core count manually sped up boot times.
Doesn't help on 10 or 11 though.
why did you turn off e cores? I have same cpu so im curious
@quasarix because in some situations things can runs better. For example if your doing ps3 emulation. Turning off e cores results in better perf
@@quasarix Some games perform better with the E cores turned off, like Starfield. The E cores have a lower frequency, and when improperly utilized it hurts your performance. If you find that your game is CPU limited (by looking at GPU busy), turning off the E cores might eek out some more performance. Or it won't, the idea is to check.
@@BSEUNHIRDid it really help back then, though? Someone just said so and everyone believed it, there is little or no information and benchmarks on it
Option existed since Windows 2000 (the first time NT Kernel which we all use to this day). Its a persistent feature especially if you benchmark a lot of PC components such as processors from the same vendor. The reason why the feature is even there is for debugging purposes for technicians to determine if there's an issue with the Processor itself.
At least I know it's good to check for issues
do not forget about Windows NT 3.1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT_3.1
It is also very practical on Retro PCs with older games that exhibit glitches with more than one core enabled.
@@Rickenbacker451 Why not just use processlasso in that case, so you don't gimp your system and can use the additional thread(s) / core(s) for other tasks like running a server, etc.
It's also good to use for benchmarking so you can see how a game scales with core count. In most games they don't scale much at all after 6 cores/12 threads and adding 2 more cores and 4 more threads often doesn't even gain you 1% although that is starting to change (finally) with current gen consoles all being 8 core/16 thread so some DX12 games do scale up to and even past 8 cores/16 threads (Marvel's Spider-Man comes to mind)
I think the box is by default unchecked, so it should know how many threads there are on the system. The only way it would have been checked is if you were playing with it at one time, directly.
I do not recall doing so.
What's crazy is the 7800xt is being marketed as a 1440p card, whereas my 6800xt was advertised as a 4k card.
Heh 😏
AMD said that the 7800XT is superseding the 6800 non-XT, not the 6800XT. They've just messed with the naming, AGAIN!
@@ojonathan the 6800 was also marketed as a 4k card bro, it's in the box "4k Gaming", "16 gb" , etc
Well, it was all good till UE5 came and fucked over everybody
User problem, not OS problem.
This option is not enabled by default, and its recommended to make a clean install of your OS whenever you upgrade your CPU (on any OS)
It's possible for other software to change it, perhaps he installed something that did this in the background. A bugged BIOS update for example, could possibly do this, or a powershell script could disable some of those cores using Set-CimInstance, totally possible malware could do this in the background (you could argue that's still a user issue I guess).
I have never once entered msconfig before, I am currently using a 4 month old PC, basically fresh, I checked out msconfig for fun and the box was checked, albeit I haven't switched CPUs, meaning that my cores amount was correct, so there was no issue but it was definitely not off by default for me
@@futuza a bios update has nothing to do with windows settings
@@mldalexyou'd hope so, yet I've encountered some manufacturers who attempt to bundle their crapware and custom config settings to be applied during a Bios update (see Lenovo and Dell for particularly obnoxious violators)
@@futuza Yup, proprietary gaming pcs setups are not the same and I would suggest not buying them as most come with lockouts that make your components work like shite.
You "accidentally" changed it and "forgot", and now blame it to Windows...
It is still an issue that windows keeps the maximum amount of threads at 12 in that option
@@ArtiomJulea That's not a issue, it intentional. The reason why it doesn't have 16 there because unchecking the option defaults to 16 and if u wanna reduce it for some reason then you select 12 or less!
maybe this isn't a windows issue, but i have seen windows do some dumbass shit in the last decade of win ten, it made me not want to get win 11 because of how bad ten was in the beginning and through most of the years, i swear we are the beta testers of their next windows version every time now.
@@TechnoFreak-IN if you uncheck it, restart and then check it, the maximum value will be 16
If you have 16 threads, you should be able to select 16, 15, 14, 13 etc.
No actually, this can happen if you read down in other user's conversation threads. Windows will sometimes save core counts between somehow. It's not everyone, it's not every time. But several are showing this, and they hadn't even known about this feature so...
It's one of those thing people say "Make your pc faster by selecting the max amount of threads on MSCONFIG", so you go there and set that.
Some time later you forget about that and switch to a better CPU with more cores, now your cores are limited.
Setting that to the max amount of threads won't make your computer faster, it's the same as disabled, but once you have a lower amount selected, that's where problems starts.
Selected max threads = disabled, selected less threads = crippled CPU. As simple as that.
I'm glad a lot of people in the comments realize this.
I have never once entered msconfig before, I am currently using a 4 month old PC, basically fresh, I checked out msconfig for fun and the box was checked, albeit I haven't switched CPUs, meaning that my cores amount was correct, so there was no issue but it was definitely not off by default for me
Sure... But when you regularly reinstall Windows on a yearly basis... It doesnt matter.
Yup, it's something to limit the available cores for testing and debug purposes. Not to enable them somewhere and get more performance.
It's an extremely easy way to figure out which channels are abusing dogsihtTube's removal of core features. Every last troll puts this in their FPS boosting videos.
This guy is dragging out the solution and turning it into a Vox video essay.
Edit: after watching the video I had already done this because I just watched a video on optimization. That video fit the solution into a 25 second segment of a 5 minute video full of solutions. This guy would make that video a 20 part series worth an hour each video.
Guys, this is absolutely bullshit
Normally that setting comes unchecked and Windows always uses the maximum amount of cores. Either a windows update or a software must have changed that setting. I see that setting being mentioned in many "windows optimize" videos. If you followed a guide in the past, you may have changed it yourself and simply don't remember doing it so. I don't know how long you have been using the same Windows installation but I definitely recommend reformatting Windows at least every year because stuff like these happen where Windows Registry has a lot of trash in it
wdym reformat? is it possible to reinstall without losing anything? or do you mean wiping the windows drive. The only solution i can find for reinstalling windows without losing installed programs just led me to the update tool.
He changed it himself in order to make content, simple as that. It's not a bug that exists and this video will help no one, which he is well aware of, but he wants the money and views.
@@JustGetAHous I think there's a way to only reinstall Windows files and not touch the user files but I wouldn't recommend it since you rish losing stuff. So you would need to save everything on a separate drive and reinstall all of your programs later. Definitely takes a couple hours but a fresh Windows can feel really responsive, at least imo
@bluefrisky I checked out his older videos it's quiet hard to really tell anything when the settings and graphic cards are not matching. Still, Vex has some amount of knowledge about PC parts, checking out the task manager and seeing 6 cores should have been immediate red flag. Everyone opens up the task manager at least a couple times a week. Either way, it is a bad look for him. It still could be a bug, considering he tries out multiple CPUs in a motherboard I believe. But this video is definitely a clickbait and wouldn't blame anyone who thinks Vex doing it on purpose. People probably clicked hoping to boost FPS on their old PCs, instead showing something fairly simple and a thing that you probably shouldn't ever touch.
@@xblur17 No need to jump to conclusions, He probably genuinely forgot.
That option comes disabled by default.
You might have changed it at some point and forgot about it.
He did
It does not
No one should have this issue by default unless they messed around with the setting cause out of the box that option comes unchecked in fresh windows so its not really a windows problem rather it's an user created problem, the video is extremely misleading
I have a I5 9400f & it shows 6 cores
this is not windows being dumb, that checkbox comes unchecked by default. this is a you problem.
Uhh.... Lol
Nice bait
Things like these happen when you've fallen for placebo performance tweak tutorials. In this case, the dumb bug sat in front of the the screen :)
Yes
How to not fall them when you are new?
@joekickass8943
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Who knows what to do to even increase performance in Windows and gaming other than upgrading. Seems like the only way.
yep
As others have said sounds like a user error rather than windows. But anyway, would it not make more sense to do a fresh install when doing a system upgrade like this? Start clean and have less risk of these kinda issues?
That may be so 10 years ago because CPU brands (Intel / AMD) have their own registry tags which also pretty easy to fix via registry hacks. Nowadays with Windows 10 / 11, it is capable of dealing with hardware changes. Though some users will do their "manual" thingy which disable auto detections like the case here. I have upgraded my computer, still using the same OS drive, from lesser cores to more cores without this issue.
TLDR: Information Starts at 3:40
I'm at 8:20 and information hasn't started yet.
That trick allows you to test with CPUs of less cores without installing a different CPU. Which for benchmarking is a useful tool.
just use process lasso instead
This is dumb on 2 ccd cpus. You cant select them by quality
not really. If you have intel cpus than they have different cache sizes and for amd they have different chiplet designs. You can test 8 core amd cpu as 6 core but not 12 core as 8 core cpu
That it is really a dumb comment.
@@wolniacha_tvDoesn't "process lasso" only limit certain processes? That way other processes (including the OS) still have more resources available.
Skip to 3:41 for actual tutorial
But does it mean that in msconfig the box with procesors (core/threads) should be checked (with maximum kr my cores/threads) or unchecked?
I think it should be unchecked, windows auto-adjusts when necessary.
I upgraded from a 5600x (6 core) to a 5800X3D without any issues. What I suspect is that when you had the 6 core you were messing around with it and you changed that setting in msconfig, and forgot about it. Normally that setting is ALWAYS disabled. It's only enabled manually by the user for troubleshooting (or testing purposes). So, no, Windows is not stupid. (Well, it is stupid sometimes, but not about this). That was straight up user error.
yo I'm also thinking of upgrading my 5600x to a 5800x3d. what do you think of the upgrade? is it really worth it?
@@omareidah792 That is an excellent question. However no reviewer on the entire internet actually does real life scenarios when comparing CPUs. They always test 1080p low settings to increase the CPU bottleneck, but that's not how people use them. If you have a powerful GPU you will run it at 4k high settings. In which case, the upgrade might not be worth it. But I don't know. Because nobody is willing to test that. I upgraded because I went from a 2080 to a 7900XT, which is a huge jump in performance and I was worried that the little 5600x might not cut it, but again, I don't know. Because I upgraded the CPU before I upgraded the GPU, so I didn't have an immediate before/after scenario to compare it. With the 2080 I did not notice much difference, but with a 7900XT? I honestly don't know. (I'm certain that Starfield runs better but that game is extremely CPU bottlenecked so it's the exception, not the rule).
Just following one of these performance and optimization guides with lots of snake oil. They tend to include that setting.
Windows is not stupid, you did this to yourself
That option is not even checked by default why would you enable it following some placebo tweaks ? can you really blame Windows if you set this yourself and forgot to change it ? am i missing something?
100% agree. This dude just lost all credibility to me
Yes, you could just set it to allow you to make a video on how windows is stupid.
The reason u only found 1 forum post about it is because its not a problem bro. U fabricated this, this is not something that "accidentally" happens. Windows may be worse then Linux distros but I can assure u when it comes to the bootloader and hardware configs Windows knows whats perfect for your hardware. Its a common myth that u cant move Windows installs between hardware but u can bcs Windows just reconfigures itself. Its alot more flexible then u think.
Best advice for PC gamers who still don't feel comfortable with Linux for whatever reason: try to keep everything away from C: and keep only the bare essentials there. Move Steam library, Documents Folder where a lot of games save files to another drive so it becomes very easy and painless to do a full reinstall. And then, every year or two-years or when upgrading CPU always do a full reinstall. Many less headaches to deal with.
This is a huge tip for those uneducated users, I always do this every 3 years whenever I have enough for a new build
😅 This is probably good advice for windows too lol.
It's annoying how so many programs default to sticking stuff on the C: drive though,
meaning you either have to remember to manually change it,
OR in some cases you might not be able to change it.
@@mydogbuddy07Not for windows "too", this is advice for windows. he mentioned Linux because he's saying if you're not comfortable with Linux, you should at least do this as a windows user... on Linux there's no such thing as "c:"
@@p0xygen
😅 Oh yeah,
My bad.
I forgot that Linux doesn't name the operating system drive "C:" like windows does.
Video is unneccesarly too long
He has to make money somehow
@@xABIBIxBy likes and views. There will be advertising for some so then he gets a little from that too.
Ctrl + Shift + Esc > Performance.
Check if the system recognizes all your CPU cores and threads (including E cores for intel CPUs) and also if the RAM speed is actually running at it's OC profile. Some updates might bring them back to native speed so you have to run your profile back up again. I've never had any problem with my CPU but my XMP profile did set down to 2666MHz once 😂 thanks for this video
bro what should i do i have selected 1 automatically and i have from 1 to 16 and i dont know to select 16 or stay at 1 can you help me
I have one question, Why was the box checked in the first place? By default, it is unchecked, valued 0 meaning use all cores.
Any reason to manually select highest value.
If you have Ryzen Master and use one of the boost modes it will change the number of cores to half. Noticed this when I was messing around with my R9 3900x went from 12 to 6 cores and was a lot slower.
Not saying windows isn't stupid but isn't that check off by default?
Yes this video is a lie.
Dude probably checked it himself at one point and forgot about it
This box shouldn't be ticket in the first place. On a standart fresh install of any modern windows this is off by default.
As a lot of people have pointed out already this is a user error not an OS issue. However id also like to point out that the default "timeout" setting is 30s instead of his 3s so its even more obvious he played around with these settings before. Him still denying all of that just further discredits him.
yea
How is this user error, please do explain?
Because Windows has all these settings unchecked at default. So it means he had to actively activate those before himself. Windows itself would never do that thus making this a user error. He probably did it years back and forgot about it but thats on him.@@dawienel1142
He enabled the option by himself. Which made his PC slower and then he got mad at Windows for letting him do it or he just forgot that its his fault.@@dawienel1142
Got my first PC a few days ago this helped a lot, thank you for sharing
Upgraded 5600x > 5800X3D on b450, updated bios, manually removed the old CPU entries from device manager & updated chipset drivers, same windows install no issue. This should be picked up on initial benchmarks/stresstesting of a new system or CPU upgrade when confirming stability of the CPU & Ram, would show up in cinebench multicore tests.
Yeah no one that has any level of technical aptitude will find this issue. It happens to people who blindly follow tweak guides.
The option is on because you've checked it before,usually is disabled and windows detects automatically the number of cores that can use, just uncheck the option and you will see that windows detect 16 cores
A side note: I have a 13700k for my office pc and I like the extra E-cores. I dedicate the 8 P-cores (16 threads) to a large task and then I dedicate the 8 E-cores to my browser through task manager so I can watch youtube, social media etc and it's a smooth experience. I tried dedicating cores with my 5800x3d and it doesn't work nearly as well.
This is why many streamers use 2x computer setup.
How do you dedicate cores?
@@BatmanNinja420
Virtual machines maybe ?
When you had the Ryzen 5 1600 you may have used msconfig to select 6 cores because it is a 6 core processor thinking it would help windows boot speed (like some old guides were saying). Unfortunately as you have worked out it is actually the maximum threads and ends up limiting your physical cores. This sort of thing is why reinstalling Windows when you do a major system upgrade is a good idea.
I like your style. I reinstall windows every 6-12 months and after changes... Keeping my data on a sparate disk so the job is 10 minutes.@cnk-fn3nr
i realy dont know abaut this problem , i do the same tihngs , switch from ryzen 5 1600AF to ryzen7 5800X3D and i still have 6cores 12 logical processors! THX mate
Weird.. By default it doesn't checkmark that.. Must've changed it and forgot or some program did it. Either way good info.
A lot of these comments here seem to miss this completely. There is no scenario where Windows would enable this setting by default.
The creator had this changed themselves, probably by following some "Boost windows guide". And now "fixed" it by changing it back to Stock :'D
@@Villani27 Yes that is spot on what happened bar for bar.
He turned that on with the old cpu and forgot but it is silly.
exactly. His general tab is also different than default in msconfig.
Would a fresh install of Windows fix that?
@@cameron818 yes
Yes another victim of fps tweak videos (which are all garbage clickbait)
@@cameron818 Yeah but you don't need to.
DO NOT CHANGE THIS SETTING... It's meant as troubleshooting purposes. Windows uses all cores as it sees need for them. If you change that setting your liable to brick your system. Your games run on certain cores for certain reasons. If you change it to run on all cores at all times (which most of the time this setting does nothing), you will limit your CPU lifespan. Or kill it completely. If you're getting fps stuttering just undervolt your gpu for more stable performance. It's not hard, and there are hundreds of tutorials online about it.
5:06 Its a weird question but whats the name of the music playing in the background ?
It's from Hollow Knight
Thank you sooooo much. I optimized my pc like twice when I first got it and it’s had a hard time running more demanding games and I’ve always wondered why when it had better specs than my friends and get basically the same fps, only to find out I screwed myself over at some point looking through these comments.
Wow fucking great, I had this option enabled and disabled it because of this video, now my pc is in a constant blue screen loop which I can’t get out of. Error code : system thread exception not handled. Thank you. Fucking great
SAME!!! did you find a solution??
@@marcusaurelius4941 had to fully reinstall windows sadly…
this video puts into question the profiency of most tech channels. a lot of these channels are random dudes that learned "tech" from youtube shorts and decided to make a career on youtube out of it. a sad state of affairs, really.
Hello! I just want to say I appreciate your transparency about this! Everyone makes mistakes it's just whether they're addressed or not. Props for that. I also have the 5800X3D and when i went to msconfig the box was already unchecked. I upgraded from a 3900X (also a 12 core processor like your 5900X) quite a bit ago so there was an upgrade involved like your situation. After looking at some of the comments I see people saying it most likely was user error. We had similar situations and it only happened to one of us. Not saying that solidifies the theory but it does make it more likely. Either way, I'm thankful you addressed it.
Also side question: Have you ever looked into PBO2Tuner and setting custom curves on each of your cores with the 5800X3D? It's a great way to improve your performance and I've had all my cores running on a -30 curve ever since. Essentially, it lets you achieve lower voltages alongside higher core frequencies. Temps are way better too.
Not every chip can get -30 so don’t get worried just try -25 instead or clear cmos if needed and dial it in. Totally worth doing though. Its a hilariously hot chip for is frequency until you do this.
@@quintrapnell3605 very true. Mine luckily can get -30 on all cores but of course test with prime95 and check event viewer for errors
My Gawd. I've got a i9 10850k and only now do I use all of the cores. It's outright stupid. THANK YOU! I was like, why is my CPU running at just 4800MHZ and temps were in the 90*. The graphics card were bottlenecked to 70-80%. Now, GPU at 99% and CPU at 60-65*C and 60-70% utilization. Loads of headroom left. Thank you for this. Too bad I spent like 3 hours in BIOS before watching your video. Thanks again.
Not a "dumb issue" unless you don't mess with it. It's OFF by default. In my 15 years of building computers, I haven't seen this option turned on. Also, it's recommended to do a clean Windows reinstall when changing CPU and/or MB.
This option is used for CPU debugging and for playing older games which don't work with more cores/threads than what was normal or by design for that game's time.
It's one of these "tricks" in a lot of "tuning" guides. So a bunch of people might have it enabled after following one of these guides, but don't notice anything, because they never change the CPU.
Nice clickbait, Windows on default doesn't have "Selective startup" option checked. It's always on "Normal startup". You did something in MSCONFIG before and messed up. My Lenovo Legion 5i Pro 2022 with an i7-12700H and RTX 3070 150W always had "Normal startup". You probably installed a modded Windows.
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This is not a bug, this is USER ERROR. The fact the box was checked, means at some point you "Manually" had to have set this option when you had your 6-core installed. As this is unchecked by default, and can only be checked manually, nothing else is ever going to check the box. Thus it will always be 6-cores due to this being checked. Obvious that you carried the same windows install across CPU swapping. If it was a fresh install this would not happen, or you remembered that you checked the box in the past.
To top that off this means when you had your 12-core Ryzen installed between the 6-core and your X3D 8-Core, you were also only using 6-cores, thus leaving half your CPU cores on the table. Seems like you missed this as well.
I'm impressed that almost 3000 people so far have liked this video, but I am glad that there is a lot of pushback from people who caught the bs.
That option is normally always turned off by default so this suggest that those MSCONFIG settings have been set manually at some point in time.
Nothing weird there.
Yeah this video is clickbait.
WTF mine too. this random video popping up in my feed is a blessing. Thank you bro
I had this issue, thank you so much! I swapped cpu and motherboard, and kept the old windows install. But it was ticked in and I sure didn't go in there to select that option.
i have the same problem did it íncrease your performance?
@@Stennska Yes, a ton. went from 8 cores to 28
hey vex, since the new gpu generation have little peformance and efficiency increase compared to previous gen, wouldn't it be interesting to test their peformance on same wattage like, for maybe 65, 75, 100, 125.
or even 45w to compare it to a igpu?
C'mon now, you know damn well this isn't true. It's a know fact that the 40 series without taking FG in to account is a bigger jump than 10 to 20 or 20 to 30 was. The 4090 is one of Nvidia's biggest performance leaps ever, but seeing as it's a ridiculously top end card you can exclude that and focus on the 4080 or the 4070, which compared to their 30 series siblings, were also a massive jump. I'm a 4090 owner, and it uses less power than my 3080 did, I had both set to 450w and the 4090 only goes over 350w when RT is cranked, even if the 3080 is left at it's default 350w (for the FTW3 Ultra) it's still a tier below and pulling around the same amount of power. I'm not sure who exactly started telling people the 40 series was so terrible, but it's probably the same people who said the 30 series was good, when it was a carbon copy of the 20 series, just releasing the 80Ti later to make the 3080 look good.
I see a ton of commonts about how this video is about an issue no normal gamer would have but this actually happened to me granted I went from a 4 core to a 6 core, i did some optimizations that might have turned that setting on but i knew when i started my PC to check task manager to make sure all cores were reconzied and they were not. So yes this issue is rare and happened to a very select few people its real.
It's threads not cores
" i did some optimizations" - thats exactly the problem. You watched a youtube video of some guy having no idea what he is talking about and followed it blindly. The issue is within you, not within windows.
@@e0nema0tak1v pipe down lil bro. U have no idea why i would do those optimization. Unfortunately some developers don’t know how to optimize their game so i have to do it for them by forcing windows to use my physical cores in a certain way. So please dont hit me with that “your the problem”. Or maybe ur just here to pick losing fights.
Interesting, ive never actually caught any of my systems not reporting the correct amount of cores and threads
Yeah, because it never happens without the operating system being tweaked.
@@skorpers Makes sense, ive found some similar looking stuff in bios on a few occasions with xmp profiles and cores not being enabled correctly, but never in actual windows
This is not dumb. I saw this in core i7 3rd gen.
Enabling that option divides all works in all of the cores that makes you lose 10-15% performance.
On the other hand, disabling this option will make the app use less threads/cores which increases the performance.
I tried that in gta 5 playing in gtx1050 when it released.
Enabling or Disabling does nothing.
Never touching msconfig means your system will use all cores available unless another tweak you did prevents that.
It's not often that people upgrade the CPU, but I will look for core drops in my future diagnostics. Thx
This won't happen if you never touch msconfig.
Another fake tech youtuber that just says stuff for views lol this is clearly a you issue and I'd also love to the the OS youre working on.
I think this is why they say to have a clean system when you upgrade so that you don't carry over any problems. Especially with a cpu upgrade.
This doesn't ever get checked unless you manually check it yourself.
@@lilpain1997 It's possible for other software to change it, perhaps he installed something that did this in the background. A bugged BIOS update for example, could possibly do this. For example a powershell script could disable some of those cores using Set-CimInstance, totally possible malware could do this in the background (you could argue that's still a user issue I guess).
You don't need a reformat for anything like this. You can clear old devices and drivers manually.
@@skorpers - Removing devices and drivers manually DOES NOT clean up registry that can interfere with new hardware. You will also have various files lying around that can interfere if from the same brand, as many of these files and folders are not entirely cleaned up.
@@Sanzor1984 Learn to extrapolate. It's really hard to explain things to someone that doesn't want to learn.
I said "these are examples" multiple times and you're still finding something to bitch about, jesus christ. It also doesn't take long to learn the registry if you really care, but uninstallers DO in fact have access to the registry. And you can even use a scanner in order to verify registry entries yourself without even going into regedit.
This is something you SHOULD know how to do, if you think you have any business telling others what to do.
You just want to be right so I'm not gonna waste time with someone who wants to shit in their own water lmfao.
I actually had this problem within the past year in my 7 year old build, I have never changed the processor. I just randomly felt like things were getting weird and checked the device manager performance graphs and noticed cores missing on my 6700k. I guess its possible that its always been happening and it just wasn't bad enough for me to notice, but I do feel like it was a pretty sudden change. Its technically true that I may have changed something and forgotten but its only had one processor the whole time so that doesn't make sense. Could it be some other program? Thats possible too, but if that is the case then its still something I didn't do and its a good idea to check.
No you didnt, you fiddles around in the settings like he did and forgot you did it because some tutorial you followed told you to do it.
@@TheMeanJoeGreen Do you not understand that if I never had a different processor in then the default should be the amount of cores that my processor has? Even if I was the kind of person to follow guides without knowing what I am hitting, which I would say I am not, it would not produce this error. Beyond that, if I fiddled around with something and my performance tanked then I would have noticed, because it was a performance hit I noticed literally out of the blue without even looking for it. Nothing you are saying makes sense.
@@BlGDaddyRob He even said he didnt notice at first. If you have no written or tracked reference, its easy to do like he did. You're just wrong about this. He will come out tomorrow about his error...
@@BlGDaddyRob do you realize you’re dying on a hill that everybody disagrees on?
Short Version: You probably don't have this problem, unless you accidentally changed this setting yourself. If you want to check, go to 3:38 in the video. Vid is mostly filler and maybe misleading.
2:51 Just an advice regarding audience and quality video, when you say something wrong and in post edit you correct it visually, it would be nice if you used AI or a text to speech software online to say the corrected word or line. This would extend to blind folks or people playing the video while listening and not watching.
Love your vids bro, keep it up.
Why are so many idiots defending the whole "Its windows´s fault for not reseting the settings you have set yourself." Its like complaining to the waiter for bringing you the food you ordered instead of something you might have enjoyed more
Bro made a video just to say "hey i'm dumb I forgot that I activated manually an automatic option a long time ago which is basically disabled to manually activate cores and I blame Windows" 🤡🤡
Thank you for bringing this issue and the appropriate solution!
I'm currently using the RYZEN 5 1600X with intention to upgrade later.
It's good to know about this before I make that change.
Had this exact problem with the 5800x3D, upgraded from the 2600X. Ran a few benchmarks and saw the performance was lacking. Looked into it and saw that yes, it was running my new 8 core as a 6 core. All I had to do was install and run Ryzen Master, which told Windows what CPU it was and from then it was all good. I even had to update the BIOS to be sure it would recognize the 5800x3D, I figured that would be a fresh start. But I had to keep my 2600X in while doing this which was my problem. Good video, a lot of people bought the 5800x3D as a final upgrade to milk the older AMD platform. I'm sure it will help some of them.
did you somehow mess CPU settings before?
Because if so, you probably just forgot that you enabled that core-limiting feature...
And it's only a fresh start if you factory reset your PC.
Woah how did you add GPU Busy to the MSI Afterburner overlay??? That's awesome!
RivaTuner can connect to a lot of things. Even HWINFO.
A right-click on the processor in device manager and click uninstall and a reboot would fix it as well.
Actually this might be caused by Ryzen Master. I had a 3900X and it had an optional game mode that made the cpu only use 6 cores in game mode. It's possible Ryzen Master accomplishes this by ticking that simple check. Just a thought.
I had simular issues with ryzen master. I'm sure its this messing things up.
So just another reason to keep avoiding Windows 11?
This also happens with windows 10 btw
On Win10 it defaults unchecked. Its always been unchecked. I suss msconfig on each install just in case but its defaulted unchecked always.
Not a Windows 10 or 11 issue, but a user created one.
See that's what I've been telling this guys@@Neb_Raska
Imagine avoiding an Operating system with an option that actually works... because.. it works.. Wow dude..It would be much better if i had an option to set stuff to a number and the operating system just ignored that number and put whatever he wanted.. that is how we progress as mankind.. right?...
Clickbait Af..unchecked by default..
4:26
have you played oneshot? Its a great game.
it's already unchecked on all my windows PCs laptops desktops handhelds
That "number of processors" box in msconfig isn't checked by default in Windows installations. That it was checked for you means you checked it yourself at some point and forgot all about it, or perhaps some dubious 'system optimizer' software you used at some point did so.
I have a i9 10850k in my system (10C/20T). My task manager didn't have an issue with showing less cores than I have. But I went into the msconfig and my cpu count was grayed out and showing only 1. (I never messed with it beforehand).
I unchecked the option to ungray my cpu count setting and set it to max. I got around a 15% fps boost.
You're all good. I like your uploads. Thanx!
What I'm assuming if you ever used process lasso or anything similar with cpu parking or anything like that the program might of changed this setting if you personally don't remember switching it
Thats why when you upgrade any part of the system besides RAM or SSDs, you do a fresh install of the system.
Thanks for this! Just swapped my CPU this week and God knows how long it would take for me to figure this out. Everyone told me there was no problem with a simple CPU swap without a Win reinstall (7900 for 7800x3d since I only do gaming). Now I wonder what other hidden side effects might be lurking? Simple is never simple it seems.
This was clicked off by default in Windows 10, in my version anyway.
Using Ryzen 5 5600 6 core, and showing correctly.
What i found out about RTX 3050 instead is swapping from quality to performance can make a huge deal, i am keeping it in balanced now, since i like a bit of both and i dont wana burn my component.
Would use performance mode into multiplayer games, and quality into single player games.
I mainly play single player games, very rarely some multiplayer.
Anyway, check that option for NVIDIA cards.
this is like what can happen if you don't do a fresh windows install on a cpu upgrade. when you change CPU/Motherboard, you really need to install a fresh windows install
thankyou so fricking much my pc still thought it had my i3 in here even though i have a 14700k now
Even though the most upvoted comments claims different. It is possible that this happens without tinkering. My fresh installed Windows 11 had limited my cores to 16 for some reason even though my 5950X has 32. Might be some 3rd Party software like Ryzen Master that did this, but I had EXACTLY this scenario! As I said on a PC I use for 3 years with this CPU and it was freshly installed 2 weeks ago.
People should just reinstall windows after cpu or gpu upgrades because a lot can wrong if you don't. The main install of windows downloads specific drivers for your current compononents and chooses specific settings to these components so when you change your cpu or gpu those settings won't change automatically
i think its a user problem tho i formatted many pc none have this option clicked by default
dude... since 2019 battle royales always had AWFUL stutters, my pc was going to 100 fps to 0, i changed my hdd with an ssd but it never fixed it. i can't believe after all this time THIS was the problem. i cannot thank you enough, thank you so much my pc was set to 4 lmao
Hmm. Is this the result of a drop-in CPU upgrade on an existing install or a fresh installation? I upgraded a 3600x to a 5800x and will investigate this tonight. I don't recall ever manually setting any options in regards to core counts.
Windows does not check that by default, this was user error. As long as you didn't mess with boot options yourself then when you look tonight, the box should not be checked and your device should be completely normal.
3:27 It in no way can be used as proof of detection and knowledge of how to use it, it just proves the device is connected and the interface can fetch it's name. it's just text, it could run on 1 core and still it will fetch the original name.
Thanks for letting me know about this screen.
I didn't have this issue as I do fresh installs quite often, thats why being able to manage windows installs from this screen is nice. and now I know about it.
I legit didn't realise this, im glad it was brough to my attention
Btw i recommend unticking that setting in msconfig completely because afaik it is for diagnostics and it either does nothing or actually decreases fps
I’m gonna have to look into this. I’m using my copy of windows 10 that originally had a ryzen 5 2600, I slapped in a 7 5800x and then I put together a whole new pc and moved that hard drive with the cpu being a 7 7700x.
So I really think I need to make this adjustment lol
people change cpu's didn't check boot config file was made for older cpu...it happens to apple users as well since both don't use monolith kernel during boot process, it boot directly to system32 system library and kernel drivers load afterwards during login process ...its great benefit of having microkernel designed to keep kernel in different location from system32 library ...vs linux is huge compromise if hacker can easily compromise the kernel during boot process
Thank you so much I watched another video where I "played" around on these settings and I couldnt figure out why my Pc was way slower and games like Elden Ring had a 30% FPS drop appreciate the Video!!!