He’s spot on. Shoulders can handle so much volume. They’re not designed for super heavy weights so if you really want to punish them you throw in supersets and drop sets. That will keep your shoulders safe and DESTROY the muscle 💯
grown my shoulders quite a bit doing this. I never try to go for max on shoulder workouts, just not worth it. Moderate weight with as many reps till you cant, and just like the man said keep going down
@@trannyslayer-5693 they are the same as other muscles. Don’t listen to this guy he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Train them the same as you would other muscle groups (low reps high intensity; 3x5-8)
Bro nothing better than knowing you just annihilated your muscle just right in a workout. And feeling that soreness the next day is the feeling of victory
He is a very focused man, he knew what he wanted since he was a child, he had a vision of his future, he was successful in many things, and he also knew how to treat his body and that today he can walk and is not injured.
It worked for him, and something similar works for me as well. Wouldn't call that broscience. You don't science to figure everything out. And what he said is actually supported by science
I would listen a lot of the time to my muscles if they told me to stop because you could really tear a muscle. Idk if Arnold ever tore a muscle but if not he’s lucky af training how he did. And also remember you don’t have recovery like him unless you are on steroids
Bro you absolutely NEVER let your body tell you what to do. It's YOUR body, YOU are in control, YOU make the decisions. Get angry at disobedience from your body, don't tolerate it. That anger comes at the perfect time to let you squeeze the last of your energy out
The golden era guys knew what they were talking about. Tom platz, Arnold, lee Haney, frank Zane all these guys are well into their old age and honestly look great. The same can't be said for most of the mass monster era guys.
Arnold lateral raised 40 lbs 😭😭😭 the best i can do is 15 lbs for 4 reps Update: Now I have got a slight improvement, I can do dumbbell lateral raises with 7.5 kg (16.5 lbs) . Whereas on the lateral raise machine I can do 23 kgs.
Just keep doing what you're doing. Make sure youvuse proper form, and the gains will come. One month ago I was at 5 sets of 5 at 15 lbs, now I'm doing 5 sets of 5 at 20.
I've always loved how Arnold speaks of muscles as though a person, the force from Star Wars or some Matrix phenomena. He brings them to life and anthropomorphizes tissue into a living thought form golem you can antagonize and tease into responding appropriately. This is why he was so good. He used psychology as much as he did iron. Just like all great athletes must.
Especially now that I'm older and I got pains all through my shoulder? It doesn't matter how I stretch it, it doesn't matter how I lay especially when it hits me at night.... And there's nothing you can put on it to make it stop hurting. You just got to deal with it.
@shioriryukaze when you lay down put your hands above your had or over to the side slightly above your head it should help. You need to go to a doctor to see what is causing it
@@just_joe9101 it's over use. I've already had a shot in my shoulder to replace cartilage between the blades. I Plus, you remember that thing that Riggs did when he showed how he could dislocate his shoulder and relocate his shoulder easily? That's me. I had an injury to my shoulder when I was a kid and I used to show off especially when the movie came out, how easy I could replace and dislocate my shoulder. Now that I'm older, it seems like that was a really bad idea.
It's pretty reassuring when I hear his advice about work outs and it's things I've been doing lately and what I did when I was younger. I go for high reps and shock my shit till it's a literal struggle to get it to move. I'm excited to get back in it and be even stronger than I used to be. For all those on the same path to a better you... GO GET IT YOU FUCKING BEAST!!! ✌️✌️✌️😎
If you really want to know alot about bodybuilding( shaping your muscles amd body in the best form) And weightlifting ( moving as much weight untill you shit yourself) watch Mike Mentzer and Markus Ruhl
@@denniekruit2078 “it ain’t much”?? Guy, you must be swinging those weights like crazy if you think doing 40lbs lateral raises with proper form and technique is easy. 20-25lbs for 12reps+ is way more than enough to annihilate shoulders. Shit I get a better pump with 15’s than I do 25’s and it’s all technique. You have no idea what you’re talking about
You see so many different ways - short reps - stretch reps - 10 reps - 30 reps - drop sets - fast reps - slow reps - I guess if the gear is right it doesn’t matter
@@kujofn.8220 Arnold was doing everything right, the higher the weight the more cheating, you don’t have to have absolutely perfect form for every single rep. Arnold was going until absolute failure, do you seriously think that he’s still be able to lat raise 40’s after a workout like that?
The thing is this can't be done by natties that have not been training for like 10 years or train for only strength purposes. He means that go till absolute failure is achieved and a lot of people to go till failure dont go till absolute failure like what he meant. Recovering from actual absolute failure takes about 5-6 days and a proper workout split for someone training for bodybuilding purposes will give at least that much rest time before hitting shoulders again. So the days in between that will have training body parts that dont need involvement of the shoulders (as much) for the exercises such as legs, chest, midsection etc
Hearing this makes me feel good. I always have to put my arms up on something cuz of the shoulder pain after set. It’s not an injury pain, but a temporary pain.
Crom, last time my muscles were so sore I had to reassure them that "It's not a tumor" and they were just sore from working out like Arnold. My shoulders felt like they were dead, I said to them "Remember when I said I'd kill you last? I lied". Then I went and had an ice bath. It was cold but not too cold. "Sub-zero? More like plain zero". I couldn't do any more lifting that day but the next day "I'll be back"
Clearly worked. A great way to gain mass is to finish the muscle off with drop sets, starting with a good big weight, dropping down to smaller weights to continue fatiguing the muscle. The pump will be crazy. Straight sets of 8-12 with the same weight don't work for everyone. Try and do what works for your body.
Remember to always balance your Delt Strength Ratio. Your Lateral Raise Strength should always be around 20%-30% of your Overhead Press Strength. Also your Rear Delt Fly should also be around 15%-20% of your Overhead Press. So remember if you do 50 KG Press and start the dropset or superset remember to start your Lateral Raises at around 10KG-15KG
I think rest is the key. I look pretty good right now at a time where I shouldn’t. I’m older, I work out less and am partially paralyzed from a stroke. The stroke recovery during therapy really taught me to balance proper rest with working out. Heck, I used to need a nap after squeezing a sponge for a workout. Now I will take extra days between workouts, but when I’m in the gym I have do much strength compared to when I was younger and going everyday to the gym. That was too much. I also eat 10 times better and walk a lot. Routine and consistency are also key.
@@therevolution500 thank you, man. I’ve been through it, but my life is still great. I’m very blessed with a great wife and kids and have a great quality of life. As with every difficulty I’ve had in life I can look back and see where it made me a better person. I’ll keep pushing for as long as the good Lord keeps me here. My family needs the best version of me that I can be.
Shoulders has always been the most mysterious part of my body, i dont feel them like other muscles, and with them i should always follow strict execution and thats why i dont like to train them that much. May i really shouldnt go so heavy ive already switched db to cable on lat raises and im thinking to switch bb to db on seated press because they really give more stretch more contraction, need to worknupon my shoulders and hopefully i have big rear delts 'cause i stress them 2 times a week on back and on shoulder day and since my pull ups and back are incredible rear delts develope really really well
The Arnold press is bs. Everyone knows it. Yeah he had great shoulders but not because of this exercise, he would have even better shoulders if he sticked to regular db presses
Cavaliere rated the Arnold press as "better still." One of my shoulders is injury prone due to an old injury, and Arnold presses have always been good to me.
The reason bodybuilders workout for so long and so intensely is because they take gear. Their body will regenerate soo much faster compared to someone who is natural. If you want to get big you should definitely train hard, but 3 sets to failure is most of the time enough. You don't need to do 12 dropsets for your shoulders, that's absurd. All you really need (for naturals) is to be consistent, train hard, and ensure you eat enough.
@@xyz-jl7il thinking about going back to mike Mez training routine best gains I ever had was training once or twice a week doing 1 set for each muscle group . But I just hate not training like crazy lol
Not that meant that your wrists were too stiff during the flies and you caused elbow damage. Been there done that too but I stopped. arnold got surgery instead.
This was not done on every set. And it was not done at every workout. They only tell you their intensity workouts. This is where I made my mistake when I was a young guy. I tried to do the Arnold workout every time I worked out, on every set. Then there's the other element that helps you heal from the intense workout ... steroids. If you are natural or on TRT, intense workouts should be scheduled into a long workout plan. You have to have de-load days and days that you don't go to failure, as well as intensity days.
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He’s spot on. Shoulders can handle so much volume. They’re not designed for super heavy weights so if you really want to punish them you throw in supersets and drop sets. That will keep your shoulders safe and DESTROY the muscle 💯
grown my shoulders quite a bit doing this. I never try to go for max on shoulder workouts, just not worth it. Moderate weight with as many reps till you cant, and just like the man said keep going down
@@yamahayz0426 heavy db shoulder press my favorite movement . I’m go heavy as in 1-3 4-6 rep top sets . Then back down to lighter weights
How are they not designed for heavy weights but other muscles are?
@@trannyslayer-5693 you realize that body is much more than just a muscles? 💀💀
@@trannyslayer-5693 they are the same as other muscles. Don’t listen to this guy he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Train them the same as you would other muscle groups (low reps high intensity; 3x5-8)
Bro nothing better than knowing you just annihilated your muscle just right in a workout. And feeling that soreness the next day is the feeling of victory
You shouldn't push yourself that hard on every session
@@YRO. going to muscular failure is essential for the best breakdown of the muscle.
@@MTS1738nope
@@MTS1738 It doesn’t matter. If you’re sore every single day then you’ll never build muscle up to your full potential. That’s what YRO is saying
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Never let your shoulders know your next move
Hmm 🤔 Sounds like a great way to live your life as well. To exercise your mind by not being predictable.
Today I shocked my shoulders skipping the gym
😠
😂😂😂😂
Nah fam... they expected that from u.
😂😂😂
Mike Mentzer approves.
I love how he talks about it all so passionately
He is a very focused man, he knew what he wanted since he was a child, he had a vision of his future, he was successful in many things, and he also knew how to treat his body and that today he can walk and is not injured.
Arnold is pure broscience.
But it worked for him, didn't it?
It worked for him, and something similar works for me as well. Wouldn't call that broscience. You don't science to figure everything out. And what he said is actually supported by science
in termsnof body building a would trust arnold anyday that those who are in lab coat.
@@anthonyinzerillo2804 of course it did of course it did 💉
But you gaddah shack de massl
I love this, my muscles scream to tell me to stop and sometimes I listen😅 I have the motivation now to keep going next time 💪😤
Lol until you tear something
I would listen a lot of the time to my muscles if they told me to stop because you could really tear a muscle. Idk if Arnold ever tore a muscle but if not he’s lucky af training how he did. And also remember you don’t have recovery like him unless you are on steroids
I've had a back injury from too much volume. It never fully recovered. If your body is telling to stop. LISTEN. This guy was P.E.D.
now we have the knowledge, and maybe its a risk worth taking for some of us
Bro you absolutely NEVER let your body tell you what to do. It's YOUR body, YOU are in control, YOU make the decisions. Get angry at disobedience from your body, don't tolerate it. That anger comes at the perfect time to let you squeeze the last of your energy out
Arnold is one of the few old school body builders that isn't crippled. Shows he knows a thing or two
The golden era guys knew what they were talking about. Tom platz, Arnold, lee Haney, frank Zane all these guys are well into their old age and honestly look great. The same can't be said for most of the mass monster era guys.
I could listen to him all day
Me too
Shocking muscles with Arnold Schwarzenegger 👍😎
I can listen to him talk about lifting all day. You can hear the passion 40 years later
This is called “Arnold’s Blueprint to Cut” if anyone wants the full video. Very inspiring and educating.
No human should train like this Arnold was just blessed with great genetics and quick recovery
And roids
@@multimeter2859 not many people on roids could train 6-8 hours in 1 day and see results lol
Very few people speak like Arnold does about working out the pure joy he gets from it
Having good shoulders at like 60+ years old is an amazing thing for anyone
"And then i would say FUCK YOUR FREEDOM!" - Arnold
Arnold lateral raised 40 lbs 😭😭😭 the best i can do is 15 lbs for 4 reps
Update: Now I have got a slight improvement, I can do dumbbell lateral raises with 7.5 kg (16.5 lbs) . Whereas on the lateral raise machine I can do 23 kgs.
he had already done many dropsets so he can normally do more than 40
That’s weak bruh. Gotta step it up!
Just keep doing what you're doing. Make sure youvuse proper form, and the gains will come. One month ago I was at 5 sets of 5 at 15 lbs, now I'm doing 5 sets of 5 at 20.
That’s very weak, you need to get more consistent working out. You can do it
@@Poopydoopy555 😂😂😂
I've always loved how Arnold speaks of muscles as though a person, the force from Star Wars or some Matrix phenomena. He brings them to life and anthropomorphizes tissue into a living thought form golem you can antagonize and tease into responding appropriately. This is why he was so good. He used psychology as much as he did iron. Just like all great athletes must.
Back in the 80s my Brother and I followed the Arnold work out and we got looking REALLY PUMPED UP GREAT ONE TO FOLLOW 😊
Beast Arnold
And that is the essence of the “No pain, no gain” philosophy. It’s not about harmful injury, it’s about working to exhaustion and then going beyond.
Run a marathon for leg day then.
He ain't lying about that shoulder pain. No matter where you try to hang it the shit hurts so bad lmao
Especially now that I'm older and I got pains all through my shoulder? It doesn't matter how I stretch it, it doesn't matter how I lay especially when it hits me at night.... And there's nothing you can put on it to make it stop hurting. You just got to deal with it.
@shioriryukaze when you lay down put your hands above your had or over to the side slightly above your head it should help. You need to go to a doctor to see what is causing it
@@just_joe9101 it's over use. I've already had a shot in my shoulder to replace cartilage between the blades. I Plus, you remember that thing that Riggs did when he showed how he could dislocate his shoulder and relocate his shoulder easily? That's me. I had an injury to my shoulder when I was a kid and I used to show off especially when the movie came out, how easy I could replace and dislocate my shoulder. Now that I'm older, it seems like that was a really bad idea.
I'm convinced Arnold just spawns in different gyms to talk about lifting
You can tell Arnold gets so excited about bodybuilding.
I would pay anything to have him as a personal trainer for just one day
It's pretty reassuring when I hear his advice about work outs and it's things I've been doing lately and what I did when I was younger. I go for high reps and shock my shit till it's a literal struggle to get it to move. I'm excited to get back in it and be even stronger than I used to be. For all those on the same path to a better you... GO GET IT YOU FUCKING BEAST!!! ✌️✌️✌️😎
No pAiN.,no GAIN! 💪
Arnold used to train like an animal back in the day…and that is how he got to be “Numero Uno” 💪🏋️♀️
If you really want to know alot about bodybuilding( shaping your muscles amd body in the best form)
And weightlifting ( moving as much weight untill you shit yourself) watch Mike Mentzer and Markus Ruhl
Quite the man. He has done so much with his life and continues to succeed! A great inspiration for our young men growing up!
Yep, especially when he cheated on his wife
@@alexcoombe3377or when he became a Hollywood sellout
Sometimes I skip the gym to shock the muscle
Mike Mentzer approves.
Amazing physique of Arnold Schwarzenegger in old times 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
NO NOT REALLY HIS LEG'S WERE NOT THAT DEVELOPED
That's what I said when my dad may me do yard work. Oh I got it!!!!😮
40lbs lateral raise is insane
? k.
Really ?? It ain't that much
@@denniekruit2078 “it ain’t much”?? Guy, you must be swinging those weights like crazy if you think doing 40lbs lateral raises with proper form and technique is easy. 20-25lbs for 12reps+ is way more than enough to annihilate shoulders. Shit I get a better pump with 15’s than I do 25’s and it’s all technique. You have no idea what you’re talking about
I’m not even that big and I use the 40s
Not rly..
When Arnold gives advice on lifting, training and nutrition.... LISTEN he is a legend for a reason
Excellent job 👏 👍 👌 🙌
Arnie workouts Like a machine
That’s why you keep going down in weight, keep the burn going
You see so many different ways - short reps - stretch reps - 10 reps - 30 reps - drop sets - fast reps - slow reps - I guess if the gear is right it doesn’t matter
correct people are gonna be mad and genetics ofc they worked hard but not right
@@kujofn.8220 Arnold was doing everything right, the higher the weight the more cheating, you don’t have to have absolutely perfect form for every single rep. Arnold was going until absolute failure, do you seriously think that he’s still be able to lat raise 40’s after a workout like that?
its so crazy to me that yall can take pain like this on a regular basis lmao
much props
CEO of GYM!💪🏼
You need a fuckload of gear, protein and sleep, to recover from that. Not to be recommended to natties
The thing is this can't be done by natties that have not been training for like 10 years or train for only strength purposes. He means that go till absolute failure is achieved and a lot of people to go till failure dont go till absolute failure like what he meant. Recovering from actual absolute failure takes about 5-6 days and a proper workout split for someone training for bodybuilding purposes will give at least that much rest time before hitting shoulders again. So the days in between that will have training body parts that dont need involvement of the shoulders (as much) for the exercises such as legs, chest, midsection etc
Absolute failure is a common method of training, you don’t need gear for every little thing.
Instructions unclear: pain coming from torn shoulder 😢
too heavy weight then brother.
Arnold is a true Legend.
Arnold is a beast
My shoulders are literally crying and shaking right now watching this video
He is the man who made body building famous so listen to him seriously if you want to achieve some thing
40 pound lateral raises🤯
Man be shocking his muscles
They were like "what have u done to us"
This is when I know it's a good shoulder workout lmao
Know matter where I putt it,
It hurt.....
-Arnold
No matter where he put it, it hurt...
That's what she said
No he said that it Heurtz...
I used Arnold’s shock the muscles method when I followed his workouts in 1973, been shocking ever since and I’m 71!💪💪💪💪
Yeah do it without roads next time lol
I love “running the rack” it’s my favorite way to work out.
Surfing the rack
As an orthopaedic surgeon I approve of everyone going along with this. Guarantees my patient numbers through to retirement.
What's the problem with drop sets?
I think because they are on PEDs it doesn't affect them as much but for natties they can't even train that because they will hit failure much earlier.
Hearing this makes me feel good. I always have to put my arms up on something cuz of the shoulder pain after set. It’s not an injury pain, but a temporary pain.
Killer shoulder pump with these! 💪
I noticed that I would barely get any sore muscles on my shoulders. Now makes sense
I shocked my muscles by not going to the gym
did that work?
yes!! i shocked my whole body by lying down 6 hours a day everyday for 2 years now
@@BabyDontHearnMeNoMore hell it did
Dies playing video games count?
Huge stomach muscles, as a result.😅
Feeling the hurt after a good workout is the best feeling
Shoulders and biceps can take an absolute beating. Drop sets, paused sets, super sets, etc.
Till failure 💪🏿💯
Its cool to workout like that when your on the sauce but without it you just gonna be messed up.
He just gets it. Lifting feels great. Everything else is just a very positive side effect.
In the words of a great man, "I COMMAND YOU TO GROW!"
Pretty sure my arm would just stop moving upward after the fifth set of lat raises
Yes, then switch to rows or over head presses or something. Compound movements that still work your shoulders.
@@barbaralynch2085 no Compounds first then isolations for the shoulders
I know that feeling ❤
You're so awesome to watch Arnie❤
Love hurting myself in a calculated fashion 🗿
Everyway you put you arms, heurtz. Then you know it was a good training!
Then I said to the muscle:
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!
Crom, last time my muscles were so sore I had to reassure them that "It's not a tumor" and they were just sore from working out like Arnold. My shoulders felt like they were dead, I said to them "Remember when I said I'd kill you last? I lied". Then I went and had an ice bath. It was cold but not too cold. "Sub-zero? More like plain zero". I couldn't do any more lifting that day but the next day "I'll be back"
Clearly worked. A great way to gain mass is to finish the muscle off with drop sets, starting with a good big weight, dropping down to smaller weights to continue fatiguing the muscle. The pump will be crazy. Straight sets of 8-12 with the same weight don't work for everyone. Try and do what works for your body.
"No matter Where you put it, it hurt" thats what she said
The days when people worked hard and smart
Remember to always balance your Delt Strength Ratio. Your Lateral Raise Strength should always be around 20%-30% of your Overhead Press Strength. Also your Rear Delt Fly should also be around 15%-20% of your Overhead Press. So remember if you do 50 KG Press and start the dropset or superset remember to start your Lateral Raises at around 10KG-15KG
Source 🤔?
I need this feeling
Same
His work shows
Arnie will always be the daddy when it comes to knowing how to grow a muscle part 😂🤣
“Shock the shoulders”
*Has my workout partner taze my shoulders*
I think rest is the key. I look pretty good right now at a time where I shouldn’t. I’m older, I work out less and am partially paralyzed from a stroke. The stroke recovery during therapy really taught me to balance proper rest with working out. Heck, I used to need a nap after squeezing a sponge for a workout.
Now I will take extra days between workouts, but when I’m in the gym I have do much strength compared to when I was younger and going everyday to the gym. That was too much.
I also eat 10 times better and walk a lot. Routine and consistency are also key.
Sorry to hear about the setback brah, but you inspire me to keep training hard!
@@therevolution500 thank you, man. I’ve been through it, but my life is still great. I’m very blessed with a great wife and kids and have a great quality of life.
As with every difficulty I’ve had in life I can look back and see where it made me a better person. I’ll keep pushing for as long as the good Lord keeps me here. My family needs the best version of me that I can be.
@@miracleman75 Amen. Man is the perfect example.
Arnold the 🐐. Nothing more to say. Arnie for Prez 💯💯💯🇺🇸💪🏼🫡
Shoulders has always been the most mysterious part of my body, i dont feel them like other muscles, and with them i should always follow strict execution and thats why i dont like to train them that much. May i really shouldnt go so heavy ive already switched db to cable on lat raises and im thinking to switch bb to db on seated press because they really give more stretch more contraction, need to worknupon my shoulders and hopefully i have big rear delts 'cause i stress them 2 times a week on back and on shoulder day and since my pull ups and back are incredible rear delts develope really really well
That level of volume is only doable for an enhanced bodybuilder. A natural would not recover very well from that. It's too extreme
Just happened too me in the gym tonight, 😂 doing the Arnold press 🔥
The Arnold press is bs. Everyone knows it. Yeah he had great shoulders but not because of this exercise, he would have even better shoulders if he sticked to regular db presses
Cavaliere rated the Arnold press as "better still." One of my shoulders is injury prone due to an old injury, and Arnold presses have always been good to me.
Shock the muscles
*Gets struck by lightning * ☠️
True Legend, much Respect
Shocked my muscles last week by passing the gym and going to kfc then home
After all that, lateral raises with 40 pounds 🤯
No pain, no gain
I've tried this method and it's the best pump 💪
There is no motivational speaker on earth than Arnold. Dude has been there, done that, and reached the pinnacle of greatness.
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You can tell by the way he talks about bodybuilding that he loves it so much. He is very passionate about it. A pioneer!
The art of hypertrophy 🔥🔥🔥
there is a fine line between soreness and injury, we live in this line
If your natty you can only be training this intensely once a month , yes train shoulder 3x a week but not to these extremes
The reason bodybuilders workout for so long and so intensely is because they take gear. Their body will regenerate soo much faster compared to someone who is natural.
If you want to get big you should definitely train hard, but 3 sets to failure is most of the time enough. You don't need to do 12 dropsets for your shoulders, that's absurd. All you really need (for naturals) is to be consistent, train hard, and ensure you eat enough.
@@xyz-jl7il thinking about going back to mike Mez training routine best gains I ever had was training once or twice a week doing 1 set for each muscle group . But I just hate not training like crazy lol
Not that meant that your wrists were too stiff during the flies and you caused elbow damage.
Been there done that too but I stopped. arnold got surgery instead.
All time favorite😍 legend. Love you sir ❤❤
That muscle wasn't shocked it was close to death 😂
That heurt.. No matter where you put it, it heurt. I love his accent.
This was not done on every set. And it was not done at every workout. They only tell you their intensity workouts. This is where I made my mistake when I was a young guy. I tried to do the Arnold workout every time I worked out, on every set. Then there's the other element that helps you heal from the intense workout ... steroids. If you are natural or on TRT, intense workouts should be scheduled into a long workout plan. You have to have de-load days and days that you don't go to failure, as well as intensity days.
dude, Arnold's the blue print of body building!