For the people saying its dark and darker Thats a good thing These games need competition it brings motivation Look at tarkov their ego got to them for being the only genre of that game and started doing dumb mistakes
as someone with over 1k hrs in DaD I like dungeon borne a lot more. Its QoL upgrades make it an actually good title that has the chance to go main stream. Map design / graphics are way better!
I've never seen Nikita been more humble and be more attentive to what the community want or need since the release of Gray Zone and Arena breakout, sure the unheard debacle is a fucking joke but most of the community already forgot about it. When you can just switch side if the grass is greener the other side of the fence, suddenly you HAVE to be good.
Thanks for covering this. For whatever reason, games like Tarkov don't appeal to me, but I did have a serious Mordhau obsession and somehow the whole inventory management/extraction thing makes more sense to my gamer brain in a fantasy RPG setting.
This is awesome! I had no idea that this game existed. Thank you for bringing more attention to this game because now I can sign up and test it out with friends.
It seems to be taking the core concept that Dark & Darker uses and cranking it up with interesting and unique mechanics and polish. After the 20th time a fully buffed, geared, and shielded barbarian/cleric trio literally steamrolled over me through a hallway without even looting me because I was low level cannon-fodder... I was kinda done with Dark & Darker. I much prefer the look of a lot of these tactical abilities over massive stat buffs that just win because math.
@@veroh-qj3ix It's already not the exact same thing. Yes, stats play a big role. But the devs literally said in the video that they want tactical decision making to play a big part. Also, chill.
Lol bad at dark n darker because xyz. Same reason you will be bad here. This game offers little to no customization or skill expression... Game atp is boring at best
@@Daddyopsuhm no? You probably have played only on low level, but the skill expression is way better here then DaD, you can costumize your character by buying weapons that give you different active skills that you need to use strategically.
@user-lm6tv5fk8vmy man RIPDEAN was referring to dark and darker when he said “being a skele boo AGAIN” because he was use the skeleton skin in DaD and now he is gonna do the same thing here you don’t have to tell him that to go to DaD, are you inciting people to buy that game and doing advertisement for that company? Also dungeonborne got inspiration from DaD but they made new interesting ideas and made the formula more interesting since everything they crafted was made from zero, while DaD not, most assets of DaD are bought and copy from other games, is funny that you are saying that this game is copying while DaD is doing the same
This one looks interesting actually, couldn't get into Dark and Darker, but maybe this does it :D Gotta take a look myself, thanks for making me aware of it :D
I'm wondering when the DaD content will drop? I haven't seen anything from you expect that one video awhile ago. MUCH LOVE MY GUY love any and all content you do.
Really looking forward to this game. I don't particularly like Dark and Darker and I really hope this turns out to be a better version of what that game offers.
The ultra dark corners of the maps in dark and darker are design choices so that people can't cheese the light stealth by cranking up the brightness. You not being able to see in the dark without light is part of the game...
It's been somewhat fun, but the melee combat really feels unsatisfying as of right now, especially the club/mace weapons. Hits dont feel like they have weight to them when connecting. Still, the ability and class design is really good so I hope they fix the combat's feel for the EA release
Honestly, they could have made it a tiger for druid instead of a panther. Or any other big cat, a lion maybe? As for other forms, i think bear is unavoidable since its so iconic, maybe a wolf or a gorilla would be an interesting choice. Also do you still like D&D? The way you said "will not be named" had me initially thinking you were avoiding the game instead of just avoiding comparing the two.
I have to disagree on the Dark and Darker Druid point. The games draw both of their inspiration from Dungeons and Dragons. Druid in fantasy and myth has certain forms they routinely take....like that of a bear, a large cat, wolves, birds. I don't see how they could utilize the reptile/fish shapes without a water level lol.
The game we do not speak of won their court case, reinstated on Steam, and is free. I'm only upset that I paid $30 for it and something better came along with the same premise.
i agree with the point about druid shapes!!!! just like the weapons this game shouldnt have daggers short swords spears mace because those are just things in dark and darker!!! druid needs to have wildshapes that dont show up in dark and darker!!!! this game is different in other areas, like in dark and darker they have plate armour but in dungeonborne we have... well okay we have plate but in dark and darker they have invisible rouges but in dungeonborne we have... okay well we have that but its different honest!!!
A lot of these affixes are just for bloat. Why all different elements have their own affix? Why not just "magic" and "physical"? Set affixes are cool tho, I do support that idea, there is such little customization in DB in this aspect.
Here come all of the people who haven't really played either game saying it's just a ripoff Dark and Darker. It's not! If you play them they are very different.
this game looks cool but weapons need to CC, when you walk forward and someone does a stab attack towards you with a greatsword or rapier or something, you either shouldn't be able to keep walking towards them or you should take 3x maybe 4x damage, your impaling yourself just to get closer it should be punished
Hope it's better than dark and darker. I really enjoy dark and darker "MOSTLY" but the combat is cringe. Enemies needing like 10 arrows to die, or a bat needing 3-4 is a bit much
I’m not happy to see the Druid panther.. please don’t make any abilities that allow players to change their hitbox.. it hurts the quality of PvP.. because every other character has a set of fundamentals that they need to follow when they fight, kite, weapon accuracy. You shouldn’t be able to become a 2 foot knee slapping panther.. d&d should have never let that past play testing.. everything else on Druid in D&D is fine, makes sense, being able to fly to unreachable areas, not cool, being able to morph into a tiny rat and hide in unreachable crevices, not cool, becoming a giant bear which can turn around or stand up and have an unreachable head, not cool.. having a panther who’s head is 2 feet from the ground which causes you to stab the ground that cancels your attack combo, not cool.
"It's going to be early access and not a released game" How are ppl still so ignorant? They are charging money, it's a released game. There is no guarantee that they will ever deliver anything of some random roadmap or promises, if anything history has shown it's more likely that a game doesn't do that.
Dude... Psyhoghost's bread and butter was literally an Early Access game that costed money. Hunt is a shining example of what a passionate team can do with early access. I say give it a try before you throw up your hands, Steam refunds exist for a reason.
@@PsychoghostGaming Yes, and in early access it was a shitshow that I put on ignore. Just because there are some success stories doesn't mean the vast majority of them underdeliver massively. Just recently take kerbal 2, who's first game successfully went through that path, and the second game is now still being sold while having 0 developers working on it and being a scam.
different approach of the same genre. i play dark and darker and played dungeonborne in the last test. they feel very different. i like both, will play both
Actually cant wait for this. I played Darker and Darker since its second play test. Dungeon Bourne is way better mainly because there is more PVP. Each time you play trios there arent really enough portals so it forces you to fight others. Its simple enough for ANY of your friends to pick it up. The classes are solid and unique yet none of them are BUSTED. Love the game will never play Darker and Darker again when this fully releases.
because the game hasn't been released yet and although it shares the same characteristics, it may vere completely in playstyle and substance kind of like how every "hero shooter" is compared to Overwatch or every MOBA to WOW despite having only a surface-level comparison because of its defined genre. Once its out and ready for comparison and fall heavily inline with dark and darker then it would be fair to compare them.
For the people saying its dark and darker
Thats a good thing
These games need competition it brings motivation
Look at tarkov their ego got to them for being the only genre of that game and started doing dumb mistakes
as someone with over 1k hrs in DaD I like dungeon borne a lot more. Its QoL upgrades make it an actually good title that has the chance to go main stream. Map design / graphics are way better!
@@Bonkelius +
basically the difference between morrowind and gothic same concept on a macro level but go deep and its different
I've never seen Nikita been more humble and be more attentive to what the community want or need since the release of Gray Zone and Arena breakout, sure the unheard debacle is a fucking joke but most of the community already forgot about it. When you can just switch side if the grass is greener the other side of the fence, suddenly you HAVE to be good.
@@Bonkelius only thing that was better is the market chat in dark and darker
This takes me back to a hidden gem that was released 18 years ago ... Dark Messiah of Might and Magic! Gonna keep my eye on this one.
That was a gem indeed :)
OMG SOMEONE MENTIONED THIS GAME. Seriously I miss that game
@@Eseerrowez Needs a kick into spikes mechanic though!
Thanks for covering this. For whatever reason, games like Tarkov don't appeal to me, but I did have a serious Mordhau obsession and somehow the whole inventory management/extraction thing makes more sense to my gamer brain in a fantasy RPG setting.
mordhau was GOATED
If you love this try Dark and Darker!
i really enjoyed the last playtest, looking forward to trying out these changes!
Thanks for covering this mike! Love dark and darker but im really hopeful for dungeonborne. We need competition always
This is awesome! I had no idea that this game existed. Thank you for bringing more attention to this game because now I can sign up and test it out with friends.
Glad I could help!
Hey Mike.
Thank you for all the Videos about other games and review of you make. It alsways gives me a good idea at what's going on.
It seems to be taking the core concept that Dark & Darker uses and cranking it up with interesting and unique mechanics and polish.
After the 20th time a fully buffed, geared, and shielded barbarian/cleric trio literally steamrolled over me through a hallway without even looting me because I was low level cannon-fodder... I was kinda done with Dark & Darker.
I much prefer the look of a lot of these tactical abilities over massive stat buffs that just win because math.
Yeah me too!
It’s going to be the exact same thing. If you think stat check fights are not going to be in this game your crazy
@@veroh-qj3ix It's already not the exact same thing. Yes, stats play a big role. But the devs literally said in the video that they want tactical decision making to play a big part.
Also, chill.
Lol bad at dark n darker because xyz. Same reason you will be bad here. This game offers little to no customization or skill expression... Game atp is boring at best
@@Daddyopsuhm no? You probably have played only on low level, but the skill expression is way better here then DaD, you can costumize your character by buying weapons that give you different active skills that you need to use strategically.
my bones are tingling with anticipation of being a skelly boi again
@user-lm6tv5fk8v Cringe
As if they have started development only AFTER D&D emerged.
Also, read top comment.
@user-lm6tv5fk8v Oh, and if you wanna go down that road: Dark & Darker _obviously_ stole everything from Dungeons & Dragons!!11 😂
@user-lm6tv5fk8vmy man RIPDEAN was referring to dark and darker when he said “being a skele boo AGAIN” because he was use the skeleton skin in DaD and now he is gonna do the same thing here you don’t have to tell him that to go to DaD, are you inciting people to buy that game and doing advertisement for that company?
Also dungeonborne got inspiration from DaD but they made new interesting ideas and made the formula more interesting since everything they crafted was made from zero, while DaD not, most assets of DaD are bought and copy from other games, is funny that you are saying that this game is copying while DaD is doing the same
Nice video Mike 🤘Very stoked to see you in Dungeonborne!
Always love your video presentations, no matter what game it is. 😉 Musical greetings from Belgium, Gunther (singer and lyrics writer of Gabriel Scar)
Hey Mike. Just wanted to say I'm glad your ear got almost back to the way it was before. Cheers.
Thanks :)
This one looks interesting actually, couldn't get into Dark and Darker, but maybe this does it :D Gotta take a look myself, thanks for making me aware of it :D
This looks fucking awesome I need to try to play this test if they do beta tests
At the end of the video some info ;)
sign up now! its going live tomorrow
dungeonborne gives me dark mesiah vibes look forward to giving it a try
kite and poke with that crossbow is gonna be fun. never underestimate true damage.
Been looking forward to this one.
Last playtest I played on steam deck. Hope I still can for this playtest
My issue with this might be the same one I had with dark and darker: A few nice hours but no real motivation to keep going.
I'm not super into the abilities, but I might give it a shot.
maps are so much better than dark and darker. loving it so far
Just recently got a pc and this game looks really fun! Probably gonna be waiting for 20 years for hunt to add cross progression
If BG3 has taught me anything about what kind of abilities to expect from a fantasy priest, that you have to ask yourself, "A priest of what god?" Lol
I fucking love this game
I'm wondering when the DaD content will drop? I haven't seen anything from you expect that one video awhile ago. MUCH LOVE MY GUY love any and all content you do.
Only streams planned honestly :)
@PsychoghostGaming Fair enough. I would love some videos if you ever feel up for it ;) have a fantastic week my guy!
This one actually looks good to me.
I honestly just hope they make all the maps available for team lobbies. The Solo's map was sooooo much cooler than the trios map
the dismemberment is great update
its this same as dark and darker where you must hit a skeleton 50 times in first 5 sec in game?
It's less :D
Really looking forward to this game. I don't particularly like Dark and Darker and I really hope this turns out to be a better version of what that game offers.
The ultra dark corners of the maps in dark and darker are design choices so that people can't cheese the light stealth by cranking up the brightness. You not being able to see in the dark without light is part of the game...
Alright
Game's called dark and darker, about stealth, creeping, not brightness and dungeon
It's been somewhat fun, but the melee combat really feels unsatisfying as of right now, especially the club/mace weapons. Hits dont feel like they have weight to them when connecting. Still, the ability and class design is really good so I hope they fix the combat's feel for the EA release
I love this so much so addicting and waaaaaaay better than Dark and Darker
maybe they will drop some coop servers for PvE where PvP damage is just turned down/off? also out of combat crit% could really lend a hand to healing
This game needs a monk class
Crazy
Not available in my region, nice indie dev
Honestly, they could have made it a tiger for druid instead of a panther. Or any other big cat, a lion maybe? As for other forms, i think bear is unavoidable since its so iconic, maybe a wolf or a gorilla would be an interesting choice. Also do you still like D&D? The way you said "will not be named" had me initially thinking you were avoiding the game instead of just avoiding comparing the two.
I enjoy DaD and streamed it recently but I like the combat and visuals in DB more. It needs more depth though :/
Like Dark and Darker but less jank combat :O
This is really in-depth look for a game that I have not much about. Honestly looks more enticing than Dark and Darker on some levels.
Hope this game lasts longer then Greed is Good.
I have to disagree on the Dark and Darker Druid point. The games draw both of their inspiration from Dungeons and Dragons. Druid in fantasy and myth has certain forms they routinely take....like that of a bear, a large cat, wolves, birds. I don't see how they could utilize the reptile/fish shapes without a water level lol.
That is true but you know gamers. Just for the sake of avoiding the whole „DaD copy“ they could’ve used different animals
yeah I think for this game to shine they have to go different than DaD, the druid could have been a tiger instead of panther
Yap, true that
The game we do not speak of won their court case, reinstated on Steam, and is free. I'm only upset that I paid $30 for it and something better came along with the same premise.
same here
"ranged attacks cant be spammed" Tell that my pyromancer lol
Like a more polished dark and darker will Def play this
i agree with the point about druid shapes!!!! just like the weapons this game shouldnt have daggers short swords spears mace because those are just things in dark and darker!!! druid needs to have wildshapes that dont show up in dark and darker!!!! this game is different in other areas, like in dark and darker they have plate armour but in dungeonborne we have... well okay we have plate but in dark and darker they have invisible rouges but in dungeonborne we have... okay well we have that but its different honest!!!
A lot of these affixes are just for bloat.
Why all different elements have their own affix? Why not just "magic" and "physical"?
Set affixes are cool tho, I do support that idea, there is such little customization in DB in this aspect.
True :)
ah yes, I guess this is the next genre that will get over saturated, cause this just looks like Dark and Darker +.
Dark and darker but early access
dark and darker is EA
D&D is EA too ^^
Here come all of the people who haven't really played either game saying it's just a ripoff Dark and Darker. It's not! If you play them they are very different.
Yea. D&D has jankier combat. They are relatively the same. I do see DungeonBorne going farther.
this game looks cool but weapons need to CC, when you walk forward and someone does a stab attack towards you with a greatsword or rapier or something, you either shouldn't be able to keep walking towards them or you should take 3x maybe 4x damage, your impaling yourself just to get closer it should be punished
Okay chief, noted
ok but when's dark and darker
On stream sometimes
we all know you will play a drunk Alchemist set and meme your way through your opponents 🤣
TBH it looks way more interesting than Dark and Darker
Hope it's better than dark and darker. I really enjoy dark and darker "MOSTLY" but the combat is cringe. Enemies needing like 10 arrows to die, or a bat needing 3-4 is a bit much
The damage numbers make it feel like a single player. Not sure I want that in an FPS.
I'm sure they'll offer you an option to turn those off, if you wanna put yourself at a disadvantage for stylistic reasons.
DaD is just soooo much better. Dungeonborne movement and combat just feels like a mobile game
Love you Psychoghost
Movement and combat in DaD is even more … clunky? Let’s see
@@PsychoghostGaming Idk if you've played since it was added back on Steam but the improvment is HUGE. Not tryna shit on DUngeonborne
Loving this game. Waaaay better than Dnd
Ah, so Dark and Darker but with less development time and balancing
No offense, but I hope you don’t think that DaD is balanced lol
I hope you don’t feel offended but is quite the other way around, a more balance, polished and developed dark and darker
Don't you need to say in the title that this is sponsored?
No, because it's not sponsored lol
I’m not happy to see the Druid panther.. please don’t make any abilities that allow players to change their hitbox.. it hurts the quality of PvP.. because every other character has a set of fundamentals that they need to follow when they fight, kite, weapon accuracy. You shouldn’t be able to become a 2 foot knee slapping panther.. d&d should have never let that past play testing.. everything else on Druid in D&D is fine, makes sense, being able to fly to unreachable areas, not cool, being able to morph into a tiny rat and hide in unreachable crevices, not cool, becoming a giant bear which can turn around or stand up and have an unreachable head, not cool.. having a panther who’s head is 2 feet from the ground which causes you to stab the ground that cancels your attack combo, not cool.
Isn't that Dark and-
NYU NYU NYU :D
"It's going to be early access and not a released game" How are ppl still so ignorant? They are charging money, it's a released game. There is no guarantee that they will ever deliver anything of some random roadmap or promises, if anything history has shown it's more likely that a game doesn't do that.
Dude... Psyhoghost's bread and butter was literally an Early Access game that costed money. Hunt is a shining example of what a passionate team can do with early access. I say give it a try before you throw up your hands, Steam refunds exist for a reason.
Ever heard of a game called "Hunt Showdown"?
@@PsychoghostGaming exactly what I'm saying! I'll happily wave around my Benefactor and Plague Doctor skins and smile the entire time I do it.
Hades was early access
@@PsychoghostGaming Yes, and in early access it was a shitshow that I put on ignore. Just because there are some success stories doesn't mean the vast majority of them underdeliver massively. Just recently take kerbal 2, who's first game successfully went through that path, and the second game is now still being sold while having 0 developers working on it and being a scam.
Panther being added to dnd inspired game isn't weird and I mean dungeons and dragons not dark and darker.
Same but you know gamers
dark and darker 2
different approach of the same genre. i play dark and darker and played dungeonborne in the last test. they feel very different. i like both, will play both
Actually cant wait for this. I played Darker and Darker since its second play test. Dungeon Bourne is way better mainly because there is more PVP. Each time you play trios there arent really enough portals so it forces you to fight others. Its simple enough for ANY of your friends to pick it up. The classes are solid and unique yet none of them are BUSTED. Love the game will never play Darker and Darker again when this fully releases.
This game looks way better than dark and darker, dnd is so slow and the animations are horrible
i feel like people are going to unfairly compare this to dark and darker but certainly looks fun
How would that comparison be unfair? Lol
Unfair to dark and darker because dnd is shit.@@Bishop1664
Unfair?! How..?
It’s not unfair to compare 2 things that are similar???
because the game hasn't been released yet and although it shares the same characteristics, it may vere completely in playstyle and substance kind of like how every "hero shooter" is compared to Overwatch or every MOBA to WOW despite having only a surface-level comparison because of its defined genre. Once its out and ready for comparison and fall heavily inline with dark and darker then it would be fair to compare them.
looks like Dark and Darkest
Looks ;)
Oh, look, another dark and darker copy
This gameeee loooks uglyyyyyy. Do not like the graphics at alllll,
just play dark and darker mate
I do lol