Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons Is VERITABLY INSANE

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • So, yeah. This is a fandom that exists. And I just don't get how. Like. How did this thing get forged? Today, I delve into the world of Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons and see what it's all about. The ships. The trends. The fics. All that goodness. It's weird. It's wild. It doesn't make much sense to me. But by god, it's a piece of dank internet culture that deserves to be remembered.

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  • @evilalien2593
    @evilalien2593 Рік тому +486

    Man, when I found this as a kid, I was just happy that my favorite characters would just hang out and be friends....

    • @wowhonesty2347
      @wowhonesty2347 Рік тому +17

      Literally

    • @maddmira9888
      @maddmira9888 Рік тому +25

      It was a blast to be in that fandom tbh

    • @brambleheart
      @brambleheart Рік тому +15

      9 year old me was convinced they were in the same universe

    • @sparklyDayz
      @sparklyDayz 2 місяці тому +2

      I still try to keep it alive, I love the concept so much and it has a special place in my heart

  • @12MyNameIs
    @12MyNameIs Рік тому +375

    3:01 Ah yes, "Kung Fu Shrek Tale in Madagascar", my favorite crossover.

    • @torchhead1643
      @torchhead1643 Рік тому +21

      Already love it.

    • @sillyfran
      @sillyfran Рік тому +42

      Nah nah It would be Shrek’s Kung Fu Tale in Madagascar

    • @alexrobi1176
      @alexrobi1176 Рік тому +13

      Now this is something I can get behind

    • @evilalien2593
      @evilalien2593 Рік тому +7

      Oh dear lmao

    • @WaterMeLoan64
      @WaterMeLoan64 Рік тому +6

      That's epic. Might as well add Robots & Epic into the mix lol.

  • @dreaming_destiny675
    @dreaming_destiny675 Рік тому +153

    Honestly RBTD brings back so many memories. I remember watching fan-edits and complication videos of them when I was younger along with the Core 4 (Penny, Violet, Wilbur and Hiro) and while looking at it now the concept is kinda weird, ig there’s always gonna be that sense of nostalgia that makes it memorable. Though I don’t commend the self-cest shipping-

    • @Batteries_Miro.Level1
      @Batteries_Miro.Level1 9 місяців тому +1

      My brain is going through a Disney movie spree rn. So I’ve been watching like all of these. I’ve also heard of core 4, but I think the fandom is called futuristic four now

    • @hannahmetzger4880
      @hannahmetzger4880 28 днів тому

      ​@Batteries_Miro.Level1 It's always been called the Futuristic Four or the Modern Four, what are you on about? LOL.

  • @Nurichiri
    @Nurichiri Рік тому +112

    If you think the incest thing is bad, beware Encanto. The main characters are all related. There are mostly two varieties of those. Mirabel and her uncle Bruno or Mirabel and her cousin Camilo. (Interestingly 1st cousin marriages are legal in their native country of Colombia.)

    • @Markus2E5I6
      @Markus2E5I6 9 місяців тому

      I'm sorry....her uncle!!!!! Thats pedophilia and incest.

  • @astroquatics
    @astroquatics Рік тому +104

    As an actual crossover editor, I have nothing to say other than, these 4 shaped my childhood 😂

  • @kjdee140
    @kjdee140 Рік тому +132

    After Httyd3, I think Hiccup has evolved past the other three.

    • @nangbaby
      @nangbaby Рік тому +30

      The thing is at the time, there wasn't even a Httyd2, let alone a 3.

  • @dancingsun2
    @dancingsun2 Рік тому +43

    9:33 I will say, putting characters in different AUs is just a normal for fanfiction, its not specific to just this particular fandom
    Like its almost guaranteed to find modern day AU and hogwarts like AU in fandoms that write fanfics

  • @doomguy676
    @doomguy676 Рік тому +18

    This fandom honestly makes me smile tbh. Its just kinda fun to see people just crossover there favorite little guys like this. Its what I love about fandom the weirdest creativity.

  • @marvelgirlfan0119
    @marvelgirlfan0119 Рік тому +186

    RBTD brings back so many memories, I was at least 10-11 when I came across this, and I was so amazed and fascinated by this. My middle school fandom obsession lol, as well as some of my friends. I read some stories and see the art and I love everything about The Big Four. I’m not ashamed to admit that I like it, I enjoy it. I've read a lot of fanfictions of The Big Four and the dynamic of Hiccup, Rapunzel, Jack Frost and Merida really amazing, I love these four together, such an adorable and amazing friendship. They need to make movies on these four, I would pay money to see them in theaters together. Yes, I am part this fandom. This fandom will never die for me.

    • @rebekahrdaydreamer
      @rebekahrdaydreamer Рік тому +3

      PREACH. This fandom holds a special place in my heart and honestly got me through a lot in school. I only wish I had friends who I could chat about it with

    • @AW-xc1xc
      @AW-xc1xc 9 місяців тому

      Found it in middle school as well, and it became my first introduction to fandoms. Man, it was a good time

  • @maddmira9888
    @maddmira9888 Рік тому +16

    Your focus is on the NSFW content, but I barely came across any of that back in 2014-2015. This fandom grew popular around the time the avengers fandom was blowing up and people liked the idea of them being like an avengers team or just friends that hung out together. With their personalities people made it fit pretty well and Honestly this fandom was a blast to be in and has a special place in my heart.

  • @bossyoyo5084
    @bossyoyo5084 Рік тому +34

    Nah people still remember tumblr, It gained a lot of notice in the space of twitter. Like when everyone taught twitter was gonna die and everyone started packing up to other socials like tumblr, and the sans vs reigen sexy man tournament tumblr thing which gained a lot of attention.

  • @haileyweston7290
    @haileyweston7290 Рік тому +38

    I like the seasons guardians fanfics where each of them are seasonal spirit rap is spring merida is usually summer hiccup is Autumn and Jack is winter and they act like siblings

  • @dangerbuffrocky
    @dangerbuffrocky Рік тому +52

    Another day of asking for a video on Ninjago.

  • @blackheart_1852
    @blackheart_1852 Рік тому +21

    Crossover fandoms are wild but kind of endearing rides showing the love love-sparked creativity people have for their favorite media, I still look back at the Grim Tales fandom animations with a dorky smile for what people did with what they like. Back when I was in middle school I wrote a crossover fandom of a myriad of animes alongside my best friend. She was so dedicated she wrote RPG style stat screen displays for every character for me and her to reference when writing fights

    • @hannahmetzger4880
      @hannahmetzger4880 28 днів тому

      Dude, I would _kill_ to have a dedicated, passionate friend like that. :3.

  • @nangbaby
    @nangbaby Рік тому +18

    I wasn't a part of the fandom, but I was there when it was active on Tumblr.
    You do have a point in that the specific nature of Tumblr allowed this crossover to gain steam when it wouldn't normally explode in popularity. One of the pieces of multimedia that Tumblr was infamous for was the animated gifset. Not only would people make animated gifs of scenes for aesthetic and recap purposes, but they would also put edits of scenes and clips together to visually depict alternate universes. Whereas old school fans would have to rely on fanfiction or fan art for a Star Trek/Star Wars crossover, Tumblr gifsets would visually communicate the idea using the media itself, especially with original captions added. This served as reinforcement, as one could literally see the characters from their respective movies interacting on the same screen.
    As I mentioned in my comment in the Jelsa video, it was a matter of timing, Tangled came out in 2010 and was assumed to be a one-shot, HtTYD was seemingly in limbo as a film franchise after its 2010 film, Brave was a one-shot (like most Pixar moves), and Rise of the Guardians seemed like it'd be like Dreamworks non-Shrek animared movies (Megamimd, Monsters vs Aliens) that didn't have a sequel in spite of its characters. That means you have four leads with visually complimentary colors that are just sitting there and not being utilized to the utmost capability by the rights holders. Given that all four are clearly in a "once upon a time" fairy tale setting, it would be no suprise that four teenaged leads of computer animated movies would be grouped together.
    Also, much like Harry Potter, Fantastic Four, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, mass media tends to like four-personality categorizations - that whole "Earth, Fire, Wind, Water" deal - and the four characrers neatly fit into those sanguine, choleric, melancholic, and phlegmatic archetypes.
    Another point to consider is that there was this certain film released in 2012 called The Avengers (Assemble) which itself was a crossover event. Before then, superhero movies were contained to their own franchises, and while Marvel built up its "cinematic universe" it's easy to forget that despite the ties between the films, Iron Man/Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, Thor, and Captain America were all conceived as standalone films. Avengers may have done gangbusters, but at the time it was also a BIG risk. Even though comics fans were used to characters crossing over, it wasn't certain if the general public wanted to see Iron Man and the Hulk in the same movie. The Avengers also reivigorated the idea of crossing over different characters from different movies.
    As someone who has written crossovers of different franchises, I can understand. Not only is it all fiction, but you naturally want to throw all your favorite things in a blender to see if it's good or not. That's why X-Men vs. Street Fighter and Kingdom Hearts were such hits that started mega-successful franchises. Personally I look for the character interactions as well as the melding of different universes and lore. I care about that more than any activity that goes on between the sheets, but to each their own.
    But if you want to talk about *intense* crossovers, there's "Child of the Storm."

  • @Ghostofthegallow
    @Ghostofthegallow Рік тому +6

    "jack frost is a teenager"...hes 400 and canonically died at 18...

  • @rossjones8656
    @rossjones8656 Рік тому +42

    This whole thing when I found it was strange for me as well. Elsa and jack at least has,both are ice users and possibly immortal on Elsa side but this 4 way slap together is just incredible and insane. I like my combinations to be two maybe three if the world's are similar enough or different but don't contradict the other. Rise you could place in anything, tangle and Brave both have magic and could work but Dragons is an outlier here.

  • @AshesOfDarkness_666
    @AshesOfDarkness_666 Рік тому +27

    I came across Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons before like years ago around when HTTYD2 came out and as an 11 or 12 year old I was fascinated by it
    But I would say I was part of its community and I didn’t even know until now that it had a WIKI page
    I thought it was just fan-made art and fake movie trailers
    Also I think they have add other Disney and Dreamworks characters to their little world like Frozen, Tinkerbell, Bighero 6, Wreckit Ralph, The Croods, Shreak, Madagascar and others

  • @M.S.-3106
    @M.S.-3106 Рік тому +3

    There is this one fanfic with only Httyd and Rotg where hiccup dies in the 1st movie and becomes Pitch instead.
    But all he tries to do is use fear to bring toothless back to life after centuries have passed and the guardians think he’s doing it for evil, and they try to stop him.
    But jack realizes what he’s doing after finding out how hiccup died, and accidentally helps him with bringing back toothless.
    So hiccup and the other guardians stop fighting and I think there’s only 1 chapter left for the author to write.
    It’s really good and a small amount of chapters but there huge. It’s called:
    half an eternity

  • @littlesparrow303
    @littlesparrow303 Рік тому +15

    This brings me back to high school years. I didn’t mind Frozen being added in it because I did like the idea of Older Hiccup X Anna (Hiccanna) & Older Hiccup X Elsa (Hiccelsa) too. Still til this day I still watch the videos

  • @ekoliz
    @ekoliz Рік тому +4

    The way this was my first ever hyper obsession

  • @avrilluz2171
    @avrilluz2171 5 місяців тому +2

    I used to be obsessed with ROTBTG as a kid. It is actually so great to look back on it now, looking fondly at the stupid and silly little things we added to it, like Hiro from Big Hero 6, Mavis from Hotel Transylvania, and, ofc, Elsa and Anna. Nobody knows how it happened, but it kept happening and shit for it is still being made and I love it.

  • @beccagregory3586
    @beccagregory3586 Рік тому +3

    I always called them The Big 4...and I was obsessef with this, I read fantictions, watched videos, even had an entire pintrest board dedicated to fanart of the big 4

  • @gemmithedragon
    @gemmithedragon Рік тому +12

    i think the age gaps where mostly accidentlay with the cross character stuff? cuz when i was a kid n watched these movies, i never thought about the characters ages, they where all adults to me
    except hiccup he was clearly MY age (i wanna have a dragon so bad)
    also i was never in this fandom sdgsdfg at most i found an edit of jack frost n elsa and then was like "huh?????" and stopped lookin at frozen stuff

    • @ceeford9919
      @ceeford9919 Рік тому

      That's true, when I heard about the fandom as a kid the age gap went over my head. But looking back it's kinda shocking. But I find it ironic given that Flynn is canonically 8 years older than Rapunzel. (he was 26 in the movie)

  • @Soph_120
    @Soph_120 Рік тому +2

    I like how they used “be afraid be very afraid” reminds me of s3 ep10 of tangled the series💕

  • @livsspam6339
    @livsspam6339 Рік тому +6

    ehh crossover fandoms have always been kinda cooky but like u said youve gotta be in them to understand, i discovered rbtd way back when and immediately just accepted it for what it was i never really thought about the “why”

  • @LovesArt23
    @LovesArt23 Рік тому +22

    As someone who lived through this lol I can also add that hiccup and Jack got paired mostly due to timeline it's never confirmed what yr jack died so he easily could have lived during hiccups time plus with the added Norse mythology of father north ppl could see how hiccup could "see" jack as jack would be like there god XD

    • @ceeford9919
      @ceeford9919 Рік тому +3

      I remember that being the case too.

    • @PaintSplashProductions
      @PaintSplashProductions Рік тому +2

      Also they both love flying

    • @junjunjamore7735
      @junjunjamore7735 Рік тому +2

      Jack died during colonial America times, way after Hiccup's time, so time period wasn't really a factor.

    • @ceeford9919
      @ceeford9919 Рік тому +1

      @@junjunjamore7735 like that'll stop them. That's the power of fanfiction, headcanons, and fans. They can make anything possible.

  • @lilmissbacon
    @lilmissbacon Рік тому +5

    I feel like the subject you started talking about around 7:00 might've been exaggerated on the wiki or it's just completely ignored by the fandom itself because I've literally NEVER heard of that and I've been part of the fandom since 2014.

  • @CelestialDraconis
    @CelestialDraconis Рік тому +2

    My earliest memory about Tumblr was seeing Elsanna (Elsa x Anna 🤢) shippers flaming on Helsa (Hans x Elsa) shippers, which is honestly throwing stones in a glass house if you ask me.

  • @Sencilia
    @Sencilia 9 місяців тому +1

    Izzzyzzz gave a great analysis on this series. Apparently it started because the big 4 are all good looking teenagers who are relatable and they just vibe well together.

  • @amandajohnson7797
    @amandajohnson7797 Рік тому +3

    RBTD sometimes includes elsa as an honorary plus one. I remember this being a popular thing I watch around 11-14

  • @ladypool1404
    @ladypool1404 Рік тому +21

    When i discover it, i was 14 and loved it! Just imagine thoses characters as friends made me smile. It's a cute concept! I enjoyed watching AMV of RBTD, still do it today. I'm glad people are wroting fanfics of this ship, having fun with the characters. It was a big part of my teenage years, still is 🙂🥰

    • @nicodiangelo6788
      @nicodiangelo6788 Рік тому

      I’ve sort of written a fanfic lol. But it’s awful.

  • @thatwildwolf
    @thatwildwolf Рік тому +3

    "is tumblr still popular? is it still used?" me who has never used a different social media and neither have 90% of my friends: are..... *other* sites used????

  • @evangeloevoxi
    @evangeloevoxi Рік тому +2

    I'm reading people in the comments saying these weird combination ships were a big part of their childhood and I'm over here like.... I didn't have wifi or a laptop until I was 12 back in 2008, and if you're a child you don't need to be on the internet. I was a traumatized middle school child when I was on my brand new laptop unsupervised 😭😭😭

  • @FallenHalfWingedWolf
    @FallenHalfWingedWolf Рік тому +2

    I remember seeing things about it and thought it was interesting to have different franchises come together but when something amazing like this happens you have to expect the "other side" to rear their heads in to ruin a amazing thing.

  • @yuri-sama.questionmark
    @yuri-sama.questionmark Рік тому +3

    I think the shipping is weird but HTTYD and Brave crossover would be so funny because Grimmel the Grimsly exists.

  • @ToaAxiomMan
    @ToaAxiomMan Рік тому +3

    this is strangely tempting for me to somehow make a Chincherrinas style fic akin to the Frollo Show where it focuses on Rapunzel, Jack Frost, Hiccup and Merida being pals and going on various adventures of strange amounts of story arcs akin to an anime where the gang encounter various people like Silver the Hedgehog, Sam and Max, Ryuko and Mako, the GDT version of Pinocchio and even Phelous even Wabuu as well fighting against people like Ronald McDonald, Bill Cipher, Flowey, CDI Ganon, King Harkinian and IM Meen

    • @ToaAxiomMan
      @ToaAxiomMan Рік тому

      also this fic somehow includes a lot of DHMIS nods and elements for certain stuff

  • @sydneymiddleton3600
    @sydneymiddleton3600 Рік тому +3

    I just love crossovers.

  • @nikispade1350
    @nikispade1350 Рік тому +4

    LMAO, nah man Tumblr is fine and it never changes, We are good, still insane but fine. RBTD was an era I will never go back to though, I was insane at 14 and so was every other preteen. The chaos was fun and we had crushes to work through
    Edit: I just remembered there was also this big conspiracy theory that all 4 were meant to be season gods, so that was a thing.
    I only had a crush on Hiccup so the only fics I read were the ones that had all four and they were watching their movies or being wholesome, lots of fun art of them being in battle together too.
    .... lol didn't know it got spicy but not surprised either.

  • @forever.l.a59414
    @forever.l.a59414 Рік тому +4

    Do I still have a playlist of Rotbtd that I continue to watch?
    Yes, yes I do.

    • @OliveNLuv
      @OliveNLuv Місяць тому +1

      Am I still working on B4: Guardians, the unofficial official ROTBTD fanfilm, over a decade later? Yes...yes, I am.

  • @twigb6863
    @twigb6863 Рік тому +12

    I usually watched the fanmade trailers, comedy sketches and other world artwork (Harry Potter mostly) I was actually invested in the weird friendships they created and I kind of wanted them to actually have some screen time together

  • @amotimeplayer8229
    @amotimeplayer8229 Рік тому +3

    I was a part of this fandom way before it even became popular, though much like you I preferred the wholesome parts of the stories. I loved reading how each character raised each other up in difficult times or butted heads because of their differences. It made them feel real. I also liked reading the Hogwarts, and modern AU's. It was fun seeing how they could have possibly have been if they were in those fandom (much like you though the Omega AU confused me, so I dropped that one pretty quick lol) I still read some of the old books that had good plots from time to time just for old times sakes.

  • @Syrplex
    @Syrplex Рік тому +8

    Am I going to have to be the one to tell him about the Oncler fandom. Ok, so imagine Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons but it's the Oncler, and only the Oncler. Here's a good video about it ua-cam.com/video/us5Y_Kba7To/v-deo.html

  • @ladypool1404
    @ladypool1404 Рік тому +6

    Jack and Rapunzel were shipped together because both are; curious, likes adventure, kind and happy. Both can use magic too! I can see the princess healing Jack with her hair and him making a frost flower for her on a lake. That's cute! Both can learn something to the other; he can learn Rapunzel how to skate and make her fly, she can learn him how to paint or paly guitar. Theses two would get along, would definitely be friends 😀

  • @bookonlegsbookonlegs8991
    @bookonlegsbookonlegs8991 Рік тому +5

    Yes I am part this fandom, I ship Jelsa and Merricup as my mains, but I do have other ships. I draw and write and have been known to do some custom figures and Funkos. I love this fandom as I do with other fandoms. And I have to say, this fandom is doing in most cases better than Disney is doing right now.

  • @kareyonnadavidson6661
    @kareyonnadavidson6661 Рік тому +1

    Hiccup is in his early 20s in the second movie and the first part of of the 3rd

  • @leomasitsa5806
    @leomasitsa5806 Рік тому +2

    I wish i could see SmartyPants reacting to the wiki in real time, sounds like the best content i can imagine

  • @lenastorm6280
    @lenastorm6280 Рік тому +4

    6:20 I didn't shipp Jackunzel (I was a diehard Jarida-shipper!) but one of the reasons people shipped Jackunzel was, because Rapunzel got her powers from the sun and Jack his powers from the moon. They were also both barefooted and were cheerful and positiv and fun loving. Also, Rapunzel can keep people younger with her magic hair and people speculated that she could use it to stay forever young like Jack.
    Also, a lot of people shipped Mericup, because they imagined them to have a Romeo-and-Juliette-Lovestory because they both have strict Parents who don't understand them and except them for who they are and people imagined Merida's kingdom and Hiccup's tribe to be enemies.
    Again, I was a diehard Jarida shipper, because I liked that they were both hotheaded, rebellious, stoic and funloving. Also, I thought they were kinda like fire & ice: Clashing together.

  • @mandyyyy1255
    @mandyyyy1255 Рік тому +3

    TB4 has always been a mystery that no one will ever solve. Where did it start? Where did it end? How did it grow to be so big?? I remember being obsessed with this fandom in middle school but i couldn't even tell you when or where I discovered it myself. it truly is an enigma lost in time

  • @paperbagedhead4310
    @paperbagedhead4310 Рік тому +1

    Izzzyzzz has a good video explaining how this came to be and why people were so invested in it, if you want to know.

  • @soh0d0lls_
    @soh0d0lls_ Рік тому +1

    When I saw the title I thought it was going to a crossover AU where they are friends 😭

  • @googleitlol6590
    @googleitlol6590 Рік тому

    7:05 at this point, right as you said “I mean IN-“ UA-cam cut you off with a Mike’s Lemonade ad and I still haven’t stopped laughing

  • @sorrysecretsiren
    @sorrysecretsiren 4 місяці тому

    Great video! We like to see our little "subculture" viewed from an outside perspective that isn't just straight-up bashing and cringing about everything without ever trying to understand why an appeal for such a concept exists in the first place. Thank you!
    Also, as a long-time member of the fandom, I was VERY shocked to hear about the p*rn and cest thing 😭 I don't think I've ever encountered any fan edit, art, or fan fic about them. Trust me, a majority of the stuff in the fandom is generally wholesome and fun (with a bit of angst and drama)... so, the whole... corn thing... represents a very very very very very very small and obscure percentage of the fandom. I mean, as far as I know, at least 😭 And I think I can speak for the rest of the fandom when I say we do think those people are kinda weird and should probably stay as obscure and as hidden as possible.
    But if you think about it, EVERY fandom has THOSE kinds of fans. As the old saying goes, "if it exists, there's corn of it." 🤷‍♀️ I really should've known ours won't be immune to that rule lol

  • @josephmaller592
    @josephmaller592 Рік тому +1

    Five main characters in one big crossover? What?

  • @aniyadavis2743
    @aniyadavis2743 23 дні тому

    Do anybody remember the frost family, bro when i was young i always loved the idea of the frost family because i thought it just made so much sense 😂, jack frost was the dad, rapunzel was the mom, and anna and elsa was the kids 😭

  • @slayerbrother5779
    @slayerbrother5779 Рік тому +2

    you covered trollhunters right Jim is shipped with Ladybug and Elsa too.
    they are all shipped to together because the Movies came out between 2010-2012 it's weird and unexplained, but Shipping culture in general is unexplained lol.

  • @austint4139
    @austint4139 Рік тому +1

    People come up with the most random things sometimes to this day I still don’t know how or why mordi-twi exists

  • @moon4236
    @moon4236 Рік тому +5

    We need a full investigation about the origins of this.
    "Who invented omegaverse?" I'm pretty sure it was the supernatural fandom lol

    • @_enki
      @_enki Рік тому

      every internet phenomenon, we can all blame superwholocks for this (yes, they started omegaverse, but only because they needed mpreg to make sense without the magic potion).

  • @iamawesome4026
    @iamawesome4026 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if you would do a video on aus on Disney princes and princesses going to high school or just being in high school and being in situations

  • @livsouth8503
    @livsouth8503 10 місяців тому +1

    not even gonna lie, and this may be very hard to understand for someone who doesn't read fanfic, but you kinda just learn not to judge. people have the weirdest, most out there, and strangest interests, that may unnerve some, but at the end of the day its just for fun and entertainment, and is RARELY a reflection of the individuals themselves.
    Personally i love the fanfiction (mainly ao3) community, its filled with amazing and passionate people and is a place where people can share their love for fandoms and characters in a largely judgement free, and enthusiastic environment. if the world were a little more like this community, i think it would be for the better, where people like what they like, you respect what others like (even if its not for you) , and in turn they respect your interests too :)

  • @kittycheshire5099
    @kittycheshire5099 Рік тому +3

    Can you mak a video about why the hell so many people cross over Miraculous and Batman? It's so universal, but I just don't get why it exists. It's so popular that it even has a name: Maribat. And most of the fics I've read are so mean to every single Miraculous character except Marinette. Alya's a fake friend and a bully, who sides with Lila and even sometimes physically harms Marinette in her bullying. Adrien is a stalker/creep who isn't worthy of the Black Cat Miraculous and sometimes goes feral. The entire class starts bullying and victim-blaming Marinette at the behest of Lila. Even Marinette's parents are sometimes shown as being terrible and borderline abusive. I don't get why these people seem to think every character in MLB is an asshole except Marinette, who is an innocent angel/badass guardian.

  • @Dan-zc3ou
    @Dan-zc3ou 9 місяців тому +2

    Personally i blame the Game of Thrones/House of the Dragons shows for making Incest "mainstream"

  • @itspolarislux13
    @itspolarislux13 4 місяці тому

    Never was a part of it, but definitely stumbled over this fandom back in 2014-2015, I watched another video about this and agreed with their take in saying: they are all teenagers, they all fit the beauty standards, they all are white, and the protagonist. They dont have other teenagers to hang out with in their own movies, except hiccup, but his friends aren't all on the beauty standard, kids back in the day just started to see them as a blank canvas to put their own thoughts and stories into them. And at the time they were the most recent famous animated movies out there, in the end it just worked and people like it and its all that matters

  • @Batteries_Miro.Level1
    @Batteries_Miro.Level1 9 місяців тому +2

    I can’t say whether I’m for or against this. People like what they like. And I’ve enjoyed a good crossover or two. Not typically for shipping, but to play out friend dynamics. But I’ve heard of this. And now I wanna know if you’ve heard of “Futuristic Four” it’s this bizarre thing I’ve found and you’ll just have to look it up yourself…

  • @starscreamsniper926
    @starscreamsniper926 Рік тому +1

    I was afraid. Still afraid today. Will be afraid FOREVER!

  • @kaekaesam6240
    @kaekaesam6240 Рік тому +1

    your editing is getting really good! 👌

  • @Spacecase_Apollo
    @Spacecase_Apollo Рік тому

    8:42 let me just introduce you to the Weasleycest tag then

  • @Victoria-_
    @Victoria-_ Рік тому +1

    The memories 😭❤️

  • @_enki
    @_enki Рік тому +3

    oh, as a jackunzel shipper, i hated jelsa and frozen's inclusion to rotbtd. it's probably the reason why the fandom slowly faded into obscurity.
    i was part of the fandom during its early to peak days on tumblr (even contributed some funny gif mash ups here and there), and i've really loved the analyses, theories, headcanons, and fanfics from it. from my pov, rotbtd started because tumblr is divided into several "genres" or fandom umbrellas. the four big fandoms were the anime fans, the kpop fans, the superwholocks, and the animation (or disney/pixar) fans. if you love animation, most likely you'll come across a lot of blogs dedicated to disney/pixar films. around tumblr's peak of popularity, Rise of the Guardians was released which became incredibly popular on the site because Jack was like, really handsome. eventually he gets tagged along with Hiccup and they were named the Dreamwork's Princes in contrast to Disney's Princess. then, Jackunzel became a popular ship because of the sun/moon, spring/winter parallels, and also because Rapunzel was the most recent 3D character, so it became the animation Golden Trio with Hiccup, Jack, and Rapunzel. and then Brave got released and a lot of animation fans really loved that movie and Merida, so naturally she got tangled (lol) with the Golden Trio. they soon become the Big 4 (or Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons). and that's really how the rotbtd started. it's really just fans coming together liking and sharing their interests and having fun. and it should have stayed that way if it wasn't for the apocalypse that was Frozen.

    • @_enki
      @_enki Рік тому +2

      also, because you seem to make a big fuss about it, it's not always about the porn. yes, there was a lot of shipping involved, but in my days being part of the fandom, i've hardly ever came across porn, and even if there are, it's mostly hidden or tagged away from public viewing. most of the time people just really love seeing this four or their ships together. there was hardly even ship wars (until, ya know, jelsa came. in fact, if you're wondering where a lot of the early frozen haters come from, it's from rotbtd fans. like, they really hated that ship and movie)

  • @MovieEggman
    @MovieEggman Рік тому +1

    ROTBTD was Avengers Infinity War and Endgame before Avengers Infinity War and Endgame

  • @josephivenegas
    @josephivenegas 7 місяців тому

    Bolt the Superdog / Despicable Me crossover

  • @flame2055
    @flame2055 8 місяців тому

    Hiccup is age 15 in the first movie

  • @chloegard2817
    @chloegard2817 2 місяці тому

    Yall say what you will, but the Big Four x Hogwarts AU was the BANE of my middle school existence. I loved the idea of them all being best friends at Hogwarts.

  • @SlimGod2662
    @SlimGod2662 Рік тому

    I only feel like Jalsa (Jack Frost & Elsa) makes sense only because they both have ice/snow powers

  • @hamdepaf6686
    @hamdepaf6686 Рік тому +1

    So like on the topic of incest ships becomming popular: I think a major part of why, is the sexualisation of family members of the main character (most common in anime), where the watcher ends up with a character they identify with and a character they find hot, basically I think incest ships are more often (or at least used to) a self-ship than and incest ship, lowering the barrier of making it. Kind of a funny side effect if you ask me.

  • @evaundertale2247
    @evaundertale2247 Рік тому +2

    Best way I can explain the hogswarts au thing is it happens in every fanbase they do it to see whether fanon wise or canon wise some of the characters would react (based on how they write them) it's more so for seeing how far they can push like Owl house despite having its own thing theirs been hogwarts fanart. Though omegaverse the knowledge I know it started with the super natural fanbase your gonna have to take it up with them-

  • @WaterMeLoan64
    @WaterMeLoan64 Рік тому +2

    I'm all for creative writing & fan fiction like “DreamWorlds” but this is taking it waaaaay too far.

  • @gigiisaweirdo8175
    @gigiisaweirdo8175 Рік тому +2

    I’m so old, I remember when these movies came out and people shipping them and stuff, and I was like I don’t understand, I remember watching this one edit with like rapunzel and mavis from hotel Transylvania and the grey guy from guardians was like mavis’s dad and then the sandman guy was rapunzel’ a dad, and I feel like the fandom has been popping up again recently

  • @ShaSha-lex
    @ShaSha-lex Рік тому +1

    I regularly use tumblr in december 2022 the most weird thing to happen was mario movie trailers causing the bowser x luigi ship

    • @julianmartinez4719
      @julianmartinez4719 Рік тому

      IT doesn't help some fanart of the ship are cute AF.

    • @ShaSha-lex
      @ShaSha-lex Рік тому

      @@julianmartinez4719 Honestly i ship it the dynamic is peak fandom goodness

  • @AdorianDelmore
    @AdorianDelmore Рік тому

    HE knows the Secrets ! He knows!

  • @madrat8060
    @madrat8060 Рік тому

    Huh. Anyone else thought of the Lego Movie when he said what he liked about the fandom?

  • @neatoburrito3170
    @neatoburrito3170 Рік тому

    aka the bane of anyone trying to find normal, non-crossover RoTG fanfic

  • @Jules-py1ub
    @Jules-py1ub Рік тому

    I grew up with these movies, I'm SCARED.

  • @Nobody_To_Be_Found
    @Nobody_To_Be_Found 3 місяці тому +1

    0:51 physically? yes logically? No. Jack is atleast 318 but is forever 18 and acts like when he was alive (google/wiki confirmed)
    Also its atleast [probably older] 11 to 12 years old fandom. Because i found 11 year old videos for it.
    THEY MIGHT HAVE MUSIC SONGS!
    Also you should see rise of the brave tangled frozen dragons

  • @redrasegarden
    @redrasegarden Рік тому

    To play devils advocate. Isn’t Jack Frost an eternal being in a teen body? He might actually be the older one.

  • @SennaVelho
    @SennaVelho 8 місяців тому +1

    Oh boy i rebember these, i loved them growing up. The hogwarts fanarts were my favorites, i was eating them up

  • @googleitlol6590
    @googleitlol6590 Рік тому +1

    Tumblr is still pretty active, surprised you haven’t heard about the drama around the last two tumblr sexyman showdowns

  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 Рік тому +6

    As a Tumblr user I'm offended he thinks we don't exist

  • @cartoonuniverse24
    @cartoonuniverse24 Рік тому

    0:48 Actually,I think Jack is the older one because...he died(sort of).
    Edit:Searched on Google and Jack is 18 for 300 years. Also Elsa is 21 in the first Frozen.

  • @SlimGod2662
    @SlimGod2662 Рік тому

    Jack Frost is a few hundred years old, he died as a teenager but Jack Frost is NOT a teen

  • @Mai57
    @Mai57 Рік тому +1

    Oh joy... Now I will spend the next few days worried about if when I talk about liking pairs of characters that have "sibling energy", people *may* think I'm actually one of the weirdos shipping the pairing romantically... I'm sure I'll eventually manage to repress this information from my mind. Ignorance was bliss, and I'd very much like to go back to not knowing that "cest" shipping was a thing. Thanks, I guess, for this source of deep cringe that will haunt me for at least the next few days, though...

  • @codyj.braunva5406
    @codyj.braunva5406 Рік тому

    Coming from someone who came into the fandom late, it is pretty insane lol

  • @byesialater
    @byesialater Рік тому

    AHHHHHHH this brings back memories omg! i had a huge RBTD phase back in the day. i don’t even remember how i discovered it but i was a huge jelsa shipper so i think i found it through them lol. so for me it was Rise of the Brave Frozen Tangled Dragons (or however the order was LMAO). i would spend hours reading and writing fanfics, watching fan edits, and looking at fanart of this group. no one else in my life understood so it was like my little thing and 9-11 year old me ate it up. AHHH i lowkey miss this era. however, im glad i never came across the porn because wtf 😭😭 why do ppl gotta sexualize everything….anyways this time of my life will always remain dear to me. im so glad i came across this video because i never realized how big of a phenomenon it was when i was into it. i do also wonder how it came about, and how it worked so well at the time…..truly one of the world’s biggest mysteries

  • @nia91281
    @nia91281 Рік тому +1

    Lol I also found the Jelsa ship against my will, ig it was my fault for searching the internet. 😂

  • @Crystal-hi7hp
    @Crystal-hi7hp Рік тому +3

    Do Ninjago please I need to see it 🙏

  • @scwlc
    @scwlc Рік тому +1

    I was not aware of the four-way for this, but I'm not surprised as I have often had to filter for the 'Super-Potter-Who-Lock' fans. That is, Supernatural/Harry Potter/Doctor Who/BBC's Sherlock. Granted, sometimes they're just Super-Who-Lock. Also, logic is not a thing you should ever, ever, ever, ever worry about. Also also, self-cest is just a variation on people having a fetish for twins. Still gross, but unfortunately something with a long history. Please don't look into incest, twincest, wincest . . . nothing good will come of it. No one wants to find you curled in a corner rocking and weeping.
    Crossover 'shipping is and always has been very much a thing. During the heyday of Smallville there were pages and communities dedicated to 'shipping the Winchester brothers with Chloe Sullivan from Smallville. My point is, this is not some strange artefact deriving solely from the Western 3D animation fans.
    To answer your question about Omega-verse, it's a derivation of the Supernatural fandom. Basically, werewolves and the canine knot ran smack into misunderstanding of how wolf pecking orders work with a soupcon of that old saw about A-type and B-type personalities and voila. Once it was established in Supernatural fanfiction other fandoms borrowed it and it's developed a weird sort of canon, the smut that was originally intended and a whole lotta social commentary. So much endless social commentary about marginalised genders/sexes.
    In short, your shock is misplaced because I'm *more* surprised there *aren't* more of these.

  • @ghost_dusk
    @ghost_dusk 4 місяці тому

    I wasn't a part of this fandom, but HTTYD always has been my jam since it came out so i did cross paths with it a few times...
    And i have some pretty bizarre memories of it as an outside party. Some good, some bad, but there was this specific one... Disclaimer tho, i have never been against this corssover, it just wasn't something for me at the time. That said...
    I remember i was in a facebook fourum of HTTYD and somebody posted a screenshot of a mericcup group (back then i remember pelnty of HTTYD fans did have issues with, specifically, some toxic parts of the mericcup shippers from this fandom) and in the description i kid you not was a line that said that hiccstrid shippers only liked it more than mericcup because they were, and i quote, "racist" and to this day that memory haunts me because.... I mean, do i really need to explain...? Recently i had a flashback to that and i still don't know wether to laugh or cry
    (I know it wasnt all of the mericcup fandom, just a very... Intense part of it that often did and claimed very odd things - like angryly sending letters to dreamworks around the time HTTYD 2 came out bc they wanted it to be cannon instead of hiccstrid but thats a whole other story - I just needed to put this information out there so i wouldn't be the only one with this cursed knowledge)

  • @blitzvibesz
    @blitzvibesz Рік тому

    Winny from the miraculous team made nsfw art of ladybug and chat noir

  • @alinarose7453
    @alinarose7453 Рік тому

    Wait till he finds out about the Futuristic 4.

  • @spacelion88
    @spacelion88 Місяць тому

    ok but why do i have the strangest feeling this originated from 4chan, not Tumblr?