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Posting this mostly so you see this: could you look into having Mark Perry on the show? He's filed over 900 Title IX violations for scholarships and groups that discriminate against men or certain races, would be interesting to see him unfold his thoughts and motivation.
Before watching the video, these are the reasons that science (evolutionary psychology) predicts: 1. To get fitter offspring 2. To get a better partner (hypergamy) 3. To get other advantages (job, money, favors, etc) Edit, after watching the video: I trust scientific studies more than what women say themselves.
The difference is that when there is integrity, the woman will not cheat to go and find those things. They will leave you, take some time to heal and then find a new man.
@@murphymacken "Evolution operates by the ruthless criterion of reproductive success, no matter how repugnant we may find the strategies produced by that process, and no matter how abhorrent the consequences of those strategies may be". David Buss, "The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating".
@@murphymacken "Evolution operates by the ruthless criterion of reproductive success, no matter how repugnant we may find the strategies produced by that process, and no matter how abhorrent the consequences of those strategies may be". David Buss, "The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating".
@yipeedo372 What I understand is that your need to be prioritized is not been met. In her book, "The Origins of You," Vienna Pharaon deep dives into the priority wound along four other wounds we may carry from our past into our present relationships (not just in our intimate partner relationships, but in our friendships, relationships with our family, colleagues, etc).
Exactly. It is not about what you do necessarily, it is about who she is (and also applies to men). If there is no integrity, they will cheat. Simple. They don't need a reason, things could be 100% fine and some cheaters will cheat anyways because they don't need a reason, they just need a person and a place.
There also needs to be an evolutionary advantage why people stray, otherwise it wouldn't make sense. So explaining it with morals only is not enough. You need to look a bit deeper than just on the surface.
Because that's not a very helpful answer. It's low resolution. It's like blaming evolution for the way people behave today. Or the big bang if you want to go all the way.
Here's a wild thought. If you are unsatisfied with your current partner, leave them and find a new one. All I heard are reasons why women should've left their partner or vice versa. The only actual reason for cheating is poor moral character.
Sounds like a lot of people that took others for granted. Either it’s your fault or it’s your fault for choosing someone like ‘that’ But in reality, men become lazy and women are just not inclined to have to deal with that. Women are expecting more and men are becoming lazy.
@@EazyEcoli My ex and I got married and made a solemn promise. We tell the other person when we're feeling tempted to cheat. Instead of shaming us for feeling this way,(which believe me, the ego is indignant with rage that someone outshines them). We must get to the root of the problem and heal it together. That's the entire point of monogamy, which is having that ultra safe space which is pristine. Unfortunately, some couples get into a rut or they start picking on each other. This can lead to infidelity. So can freezing the other out, in or out of bed. Remember: sex* is the glue. Barring physical illness or coma, sex can bind together an otherwise desperate situation. *this does not apply to asexual couples
Options, men don't have options most women find Sumone new before they part they have more chance more options. Men leaving there partner there be single for a year or so and alone.
@@gavster023 Sounds like you associate with poor people. Elevate your social circle (and not meaning money) and you will find women that aren’t tarts. Get a hobby and find someone through that etc. stop belly aching and generalizing about 51 percent of the population.
Cheating is a sign of immaturity and narcissism. Your relationship isn't working out? Get couples/marriage therapy or end it! How anyone cheats is beyond me
1. dissatisfaction calls for breakup. not cheating. 2. when one isnt invested, u communicate, not cheat. 3. revenge is just stupid. summing these all up, cheating only happens because of lack of character. scums cheat.
I think women cheat for many reasons; disappointment, ego, loneliness, selfishness, attention, not so unlike men I’ve known who did the same. Relationships take a lot of hard work and sacrifice. That’s a word no one likes to hear today. But I’m nearly 20 years into my marriage and that’s what we’ve both done to make it work. You put the other person’s needs above your own. It’s not glamorous but it’s rewarding.
I was bored. You are working too much(to sustain or elevate the lifestyle she's used to) so you are not giving me enough attention. But, if you don't earn $$$$ or not as much as she'd like to, she'll look somewhere else. Chad and Pooky liked my picture on X. She dreamed about you cheating and she wants to take revenge. I could go with this list all day...
"Not invested enough" means "He didn't spend every minute and every penny on me." Women absolutely cheat more. Unrelated: I never cheated, but every woman I was in a LTR with (6)...cheated on me.
You might not have deserved to be cheated on directly by all those women, but maybe there is something you could evaluate about yourself if all the women you chose cheated on you. Maybe your preferences are rooted in something fake or irresponsible? Not trying to be condescending, I've only had 2 short term relationships before, so I'm not exactly qualified for this lol.
@kwyatt261 I appreciate your comment. Everything always starts out fine. Then they get bored or tempted or both. Modern women cannot be satisfied with everything clicking and a good man who provides and protects. That becomes boring. Hypergamy is a real thing. Learn about it. Cheers.
@@pugsymalone6539 I don’t know if you picked up on the sarcasm but I was just using the go to line men use when GBV OR IPV against women is spoken about, or just bad experiences with men generally. It is the worst and apathetic response. Using your words enough men make it statistically dangerous (literally) to assume otherwise. I have to preface I am not American. For me statistically I should fear being abused or killed by a partner first, cheating second. And mens response is “its not all of us” like that solves the problem… makes the “protector” term quite laughable.
How about the two most obvious reasons? First, because they can, and second, because our society has not only become tolerant of that behavior but, in some ways, even glorifies it. When the gatekeepers have unrestricted access and no moral or ethical boundaries to keep them in check, is anyone really surprised when they abuse their access?
Personally I don't agree with the reasons he gave why woman cheat. I have had two woman, one my ex wife cheat on me for no other reason than getting attention from a man she found attractive. I believe a lot of the time, just like men its down to sexual attraction and not wanting to resist, it's also exciting and gives them, just like men a massive adrenaline rush
So, basically you can sum it all up under „maturity issues“ and lack of character. When you are not happy, talk it out. If that doesn’t help, leave. All these reasons are basically just excuses. They don’t have the capacity to act as mature and respectful adults. They are teenagers in a adult body…
Not one of the guys I know cheated but all there wife’s did! Women cheat be they are bored and being bored mean no drama that’s begging bored for a women! Guys want it all the time women can have it all the time!!!
I don't know why the comments are giving him s**t for what he said... they're attracted primarily by your willingness and capacity to provide (literally investment) along with height. Sorry to break your fantasies of Disney movies where they love you for "you" (what is you exactly?). You don't do the same either.
I think we shouldn’t forget that from an evolutionary standpoint we’re basically still hardwired like in cave man days. And in that context the behavior absolutely makes sense, like you need to make sure you have a man when the hunting party comes home so you do several and pick the best of those that survive the hunt.
That explains the impulse but does not excuse the behavior. We have a lot of violent, primative impulses left over from early evolution that we absolutely do not tolerate acting on.
5,11, well-built, charming, a solid income, a spacy apartment, an above average car, treats her girl like a queen. Only for her to cheat… 6,4“ Chads can take 95% of girls today, married or not.
@@sebastianrodriguez8692so true! This isn’t even about men or women. For women it’s even Beyonce got cheated on. The focus needs to be on the cheater’s integrity not physical attributes of who got cheated on
This is incorrect. As man, we are less likely to admit to being cheated on. We are also more likely to lie and act like players. His data points are unreliable.
If it is the case that women cheat for revenge, how do they go about letting their partners know? If at all. Some of them will come right out and say it, others will let their partners know covertly. Perhaps she will buy new lingerie out of the blue etc
@GoldeneyeDoubleO7 And there's the problem. Self reporting anything only measures how many people were willing to even respond to your question. There's no mechanism for veracity. Plenty of people who didn't cheat might not have responded at all or plenty of people who did might not have as well. Self reporting is such a low quality form of data its actually almost less than useless to whatever you're trying to measure.
@@TheAndroidNextDoorit's not really a problem. Every data has limitations. The bottom line is that you analyze many of them and if the data points repeat then there's something there. We also live In a world where historicallyrics men cheated and had mistresses. That still happens today
@GoldeneyeDoubleO7 it absolutely is a problem given the human propensity to lie, especially to ourselves. People seem to think the benefit of anonymity completely removes the incentive to lie. There are no incentives for telling the truth on self reports, nor is there any way to verify if the responses given are honest other than just blindly trusting the participants.
@@TheAndroidNextDoor Brother every research and data has limitations. That's why you continue doing research and studies over and over again. Look it up more self-reported surveys come to the same conclusion that men cheat more. Other data sets like reasons for divorce and even the history of men generally having misteresses and concubines and using sex workers more than women also point to it that men cheat more. It's fine. We've all known this. It doesn't mean all men do and women don't or whatever mental gymnastics you're doing in your head.
Self reported justifications after the fact from people lacking good character. Using my handy brain probe I am getting a reading that says “I never really loved them I just said that stuff to exploit them for a better life (including as a paying prostitution gig) while I continued to shop for something better”.
Duh! Any woman could've told you this. It didn't need a study! But because you people don't listen to women, you wasted time and money, very logical guys! 🤣🤣🤣
Funny to read all these moralizing comments... in an age of no morals. Cheating comes primarily from a loss of attraction. Instead of asking for virtuous partners people should better make sure that their partner keeps a high level of attraction... it will solve a lot of problems !
I have to disagree. You can be the most attractive version of yourself and still have a partner that strays. The same concept applies to the belief that giving your partner regular sex also prevents cheating. Men and women are both subjected to the brain's desire for novelty, especially sexual novelty. I'm not condoning it, and it's wise to resist that in a relationship because of the hurtful, real-world consequences, but it does exist and helps explain why it happens. It has nothing to do with men or women being evil as some of these comments suggest.
For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve 1 Corinthians 15:3-5❤❤❤❤😊
Forgive me, but #2 SEEMS like it falls under #1. I think he needs to expand on 'relationship dissatisfaction'. Seriously, 'relationship dissatisfaction' is just a comically broad category.
Society has been structured in such a way that we're trying to erase our biological tendencies and culturally we abhor them. But it's always boiling under the surface. We spend an inordinate amount of time pontificating about why humans behave "poorly" instead of trying to integrate it. There was a time when men and women acknowledged and accepted their links to our ancestors and integrated it more automatically and gracefully than we do today. A lot of experiences and behaviors that lead to "trauma" is a result of biological tendencies of men and women being confused rather than normalized. I believe the wide acceptance and normalization of "trauma" has lead to the current mental health crisis. We traded one cult for another. People could argue that the Amish are a cult, they abuse their wives and children, but how mentally healthy are they with accepting their biological tendencies vs the rest of the western world trying to be something we aren't?
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Posting this mostly so you see this: could you look into having Mark Perry on the show? He's filed over 900 Title IX violations for scholarships and groups that discriminate against men or certain races, would be interesting to see him unfold his thoughts and motivation.
can someone tell this guy that women sometimes have a backup and how that works in cheating
Before watching the video, these are the reasons that science (evolutionary psychology) predicts:
1. To get fitter offspring
2. To get a better partner (hypergamy)
3. To get other advantages (job, money, favors, etc)
Edit, after watching the video:
I trust scientific studies more than what women say themselves.
The difference is that when there is integrity, the woman will not cheat to go and find those things. They will leave you, take some time to heal and then find a new man.
There is a huge difference between what a person expresses and what a person demonstrates via behavior
@@Goatlikeitornot Stronger, smarter, healthier etc
these are not justified as reasons of cheating mate. if u want these qualities in a partner, u do it the proper way, not by cheating
@@sebastianrodriguez8692no they won't. They almost always have another guy lined up the next week
Asking women why they cheat is like asking criminals why they break the law. Of course you’re going to get some self righteous deflecting.
Agree totally. We actually discuss that in full pod it’s just not in this clip.
@@murphymacken "Evolution operates by the ruthless criterion of reproductive success, no matter how repugnant we may find the strategies produced by that process, and no matter how abhorrent the consequences of those strategies may be". David Buss, "The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating".
@@murphymacken "Evolution operates by the ruthless criterion of reproductive success, no matter how repugnant we may find the strategies produced by that process, and no matter how abhorrent the consequences of those strategies may be". David Buss, "The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating".
@yipeedo372 What I understand is that your need to be prioritized is not been met. In her book, "The Origins of You," Vienna Pharaon deep dives into the priority wound along four other wounds we may carry from our past into our present relationships (not just in our intimate partner relationships, but in our friendships, relationships with our family, colleagues, etc).
Why is low character not mentioned as the number one reason? It’s literally the ONLY reason anyone ever cheats.
Because they asked the cheaters, who will never see the truth of their own failings. Lack of integrity, courage, strength and moral character.
Exactly. It is not about what you do necessarily, it is about who she is (and also applies to men). If there is no integrity, they will cheat. Simple. They don't need a reason, things could be 100% fine and some cheaters will cheat anyways because they don't need a reason, they just need a person and a place.
There also needs to be an evolutionary advantage why people stray, otherwise it wouldn't make sense.
So explaining it with morals only is not enough. You need to look a bit deeper than just on the surface.
Because that's not a very helpful answer. It's low resolution. It's like blaming evolution for the way people behave today. Or the big bang if you want to go all the way.
Only humans are still animals at the end of the day. Morals are good and well, but primal animal drivers can be intense.
Here's a wild thought. If you are unsatisfied with your current partner, leave them and find a new one. All I heard are reasons why women should've left their partner or vice versa. The only actual reason for cheating is poor moral character.
Sounds like a lot of people that took others for granted. Either it’s your fault or it’s your fault for choosing someone like ‘that’
But in reality, men become lazy and women are just not inclined to have to deal with that. Women are expecting more and men are becoming lazy.
@@EazyEcoli My ex and I got married and made a solemn promise. We tell the other person when we're feeling tempted to cheat.
Instead of shaming us for feeling this way,(which believe me, the ego is indignant with rage that someone outshines them). We must get to the root of the problem and heal it together. That's the entire point of monogamy, which is having that ultra safe space which is pristine. Unfortunately, some couples get into a rut or they start picking on each other. This can lead to infidelity. So can freezing the other out, in or out of bed.
Remember: sex* is the glue. Barring physical illness or coma, sex can bind together an otherwise desperate situation.
*this does not apply to asexual couples
What about the kids
Options, men don't have options most women find Sumone new before they part they have more chance more options. Men leaving there partner there be single for a year or so and alone.
@@gavster023
Sounds like you associate with poor people. Elevate your social circle (and not meaning money) and you will find women that aren’t tarts. Get a hobby and find someone through that etc. stop belly aching and generalizing about 51 percent of the population.
Cheating is a sign of immaturity and narcissism. Your relationship isn't working out? Get couples/marriage therapy or end it! How anyone cheats is beyond me
1. dissatisfaction calls for breakup. not cheating.
2. when one isnt invested, u communicate, not cheat.
3. revenge is just stupid.
summing these all up, cheating only happens because of lack of character. scums cheat.
I think women cheat for many reasons; disappointment, ego, loneliness, selfishness, attention, not so unlike men I’ve known who did the same. Relationships take a lot of hard work and sacrifice. That’s a word no one likes to hear today. But I’m nearly 20 years into my marriage and that’s what we’ve both done to make it work. You put the other person’s needs above your own. It’s not glamorous but it’s rewarding.
There is only one reason: lack of self-control.
Which is a very feminine trait..
That is not a nuanced enough answer. The conditionshave been laid out in the video.
I was bored.
You are working too much(to sustain or elevate the lifestyle she's used to) so you are not giving me enough attention.
But, if you don't earn $$$$ or not as much as she'd like to, she'll look somewhere else.
Chad and Pooky liked my picture on X.
She dreamed about you cheating and she wants to take revenge.
I could go with this list all day...
"Not invested enough" means "He didn't spend every minute and every penny on me."
Women absolutely cheat more.
Unrelated: I never cheated, but every woman I was in a LTR with (6)...cheated on me.
You might not have deserved to be cheated on directly by all those women, but maybe there is something you could evaluate about yourself if all the women you chose cheated on you. Maybe your preferences are rooted in something fake or irresponsible? Not trying to be condescending, I've only had 2 short term relationships before, so I'm not exactly qualified for this lol.
@@ARR409 it depends ,actually are studies who say the contrary
@kwyatt261 I appreciate your comment. Everything always starts out fine. Then they get bored or tempted or both. Modern women cannot be satisfied with everything clicking and a good man who provides and protects. That becomes boring. Hypergamy is a real thing. Learn about it. Cheers.
@@tshegom03 enough women to make it statistically dangerous to assume otherwise.
@@pugsymalone6539 I don’t know if you picked up on the sarcasm but I was just using the go to line men use when GBV OR IPV against women is spoken about, or just bad experiences with men generally. It is the worst and apathetic response. Using your words enough men make it statistically dangerous (literally) to assume otherwise. I have to preface I am not American. For me statistically I should fear being abused or killed by a partner first, cheating second. And mens response is “its not all of us” like that solves the problem… makes the “protector” term quite laughable.
when woman say they are dissatisfied is because they look around them and see better options. So its is basically shiny object syndrome
How about the two most obvious reasons? First, because they can, and second, because our society has not only become tolerant of that behavior but, in some ways, even glorifies it. When the gatekeepers have unrestricted access and no moral or ethical boundaries to keep them in check, is anyone really surprised when they abuse their access?
Personally I don't agree with the reasons he gave why woman cheat. I have had two woman, one my ex wife cheat on me for no other reason than getting attention from a man she found attractive. I believe a lot of the time, just like men its down to sexual attraction and not wanting to resist, it's also exciting and gives them, just like men a massive adrenaline rush
It is actually dangerous for men to fully commit too, for its potential financial implications, one could argue
So, basically you can sum it all up under „maturity issues“ and lack of character. When you are not happy, talk it out. If that doesn’t help, leave. All these reasons are basically just excuses. They don’t have the capacity to act as mature and respectful adults. They are teenagers in a adult body…
This guy did cocaine before this interview lmao
Exactly my thoughts. So distracting watching him fiddle with his nose 😅
This looks exactly like the $10 red and black flannel that I bought at Walmart for lumberjack bar crawl, but I feel like this could be a $200 knockoff
Not one of the guys I know cheated but all there wife’s did! Women cheat be they are bored and being bored mean no drama that’s begging bored for a women! Guys want it all the time women can have it all the time!!!
I don't know why the comments are giving him s**t for what he said... they're attracted primarily by your willingness and capacity to provide (literally investment) along with height. Sorry to break your fantasies of Disney movies where they love you for "you" (what is you exactly?). You don't do the same either.
So wearing a black turtleneck and red plaid jacket are the first two, what’s the 3rd.
😂
Because their boyfriend wears a turtleneck sweater in the summer or at all for that matter, has to be one of them.
I think he regrets all those tattoos and is trying to hide them 😅
It’s winter here I’m in Australia 😂
4 because they can...
Very true
I think we shouldn’t forget that from an evolutionary standpoint we’re basically still hardwired like in cave man days. And in that context the behavior absolutely makes sense, like you need to make sure you have a man when the hunting party comes home so you do several and pick the best of those that survive the hunt.
That explains the impulse but does not excuse the behavior. We have a lot of violent, primative impulses left over from early evolution that we absolutely do not tolerate acting on.
Bit of a sniffle he's got there 🤔
5,11, well-built, charming, a solid income, a spacy apartment, an above average car, treats her girl like a queen.
Only for her to cheat…
6,4“ Chads can take 95% of girls today, married or not.
Bro Tom Brady got cheated on. It has never been about looks, it is about integrity.
@@sebastianrodriguez8692so true! This isn’t even about men or women. For women it’s even Beyonce got cheated on. The focus needs to be on the cheater’s integrity not physical attributes of who got cheated on
Her girl?
1950s want their sexual politics back 😂
This is incorrect.
As man, we are less likely to admit to being cheated on. We are also more likely to lie and act like players. His data points are unreliable.
If it is the case that women cheat for revenge, how do they go about letting their partners know? If at all. Some of them will come right out and say it, others will let their partners know covertly. Perhaps she will buy new lingerie out of the blue etc
How does he know men cheat more than women?
self reported research
@GoldeneyeDoubleO7 And there's the problem. Self reporting anything only measures how many people were willing to even respond to your question. There's no mechanism for veracity. Plenty of people who didn't cheat might not have responded at all or plenty of people who did might not have as well. Self reporting is such a low quality form of data its actually almost less than useless to whatever you're trying to measure.
@@TheAndroidNextDoorit's not really a problem. Every data has limitations. The bottom line is that you analyze many of them and if the data points repeat then there's something there.
We also live In a world where historicallyrics men cheated and had mistresses. That still happens today
@GoldeneyeDoubleO7 it absolutely is a problem given the human propensity to lie, especially to ourselves. People seem to think the benefit of anonymity completely removes the incentive to lie. There are no incentives for telling the truth on self reports, nor is there any way to verify if the responses given are honest other than just blindly trusting the participants.
@@TheAndroidNextDoor Brother every research and data has limitations. That's why you continue doing research and studies over and over again.
Look it up more self-reported surveys come to the same conclusion that men cheat more. Other data sets like reasons for divorce and even the history of men generally having misteresses and concubines and using sex workers more than women also point to it that men cheat more.
It's fine. We've all known this. It doesn't mean all men do and women don't or whatever mental gymnastics you're doing in your head.
Self reported justifications after the fact from people lacking good character. Using my handy brain probe I am getting a reading that says “I never really loved them I just said that stuff to exploit them for a better life (including as a paying prostitution gig) while I continued to shop for something better”.
I got my doubts about this Macken Murphy. It's absolutely torture to listen to him speak.
Duh! Any woman could've told you this. It didn't need a study! But because you people don't listen to women, you wasted time and money, very logical guys! 🤣🤣🤣
Where is women finding other men attractive here? It should be very high in ranking.
Ya'll need to watch Corey Wayne asap.
As House says everyone lies
Has this guy been sniffing something. Leave your nose alone.
Men duty: Provide and protect
Woman duty: Honour and obey her men.
💯 correct
Cringe on the obey. Most men can't manage their own lives and emotions, so why should a woman obey him?
If a man gets a one night stand pregnant he is in a relationship for life. Should in that sense also be a bit picky??
My ex wife cheated on me because I wouldn’t sleep with her anymore. And that fine
Funny to read all these moralizing comments... in an age of no morals.
Cheating comes primarily from a loss of attraction. Instead of asking for virtuous partners people should better make sure that their partner keeps a high level of attraction... it will solve a lot of problems !
I have to disagree. You can be the most attractive version of yourself and still have a partner that strays. The same concept applies to the belief that giving your partner regular sex also prevents cheating. Men and women are both subjected to the brain's desire for novelty, especially sexual novelty. I'm not condoning it, and it's wise to resist that in a relationship because of the hurtful, real-world consequences, but it does exist and helps explain why it happens. It has nothing to do with men or women being evil as some of these comments suggest.
Why do these dudes have the worst hair cuts
OLDER men cheat more. YOUNGER men cheat LESS.
For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve 1 Corinthians 15:3-5❤❤❤❤😊
Interesting
Forgive me, but #2 SEEMS like it falls under #1. I think he needs to expand on 'relationship dissatisfaction'. Seriously, 'relationship dissatisfaction' is just a comically broad category.
Society has been structured in such a way that we're trying to erase our biological tendencies and culturally we abhor them. But it's always boiling under the surface. We spend an inordinate amount of time pontificating about why humans behave "poorly" instead of trying to integrate it. There was a time when men and women acknowledged and accepted their links to our ancestors and integrated it more automatically and gracefully than we do today. A lot of experiences and behaviors that lead to "trauma" is a result of biological tendencies of men and women being confused rather than normalized. I believe the wide acceptance and normalization of "trauma" has lead to the current mental health crisis. We traded one cult for another. People could argue that the Amish are a cult, they abuse their wives and children, but how mentally healthy are they with accepting their biological tendencies vs the rest of the western world trying to be something we aren't?