S2000 was made in Japan in the same factory as the NSX. It was made in the Takanezawa before 2004 and then the Suzuka plant after. I think only the Jazz and the Civic are made in the UK.
The NSX was a mid mounted engine rear wheel drive. I think he meant the S2000 is the fastest traditional FR layout (Front engine, rear wheel drive) Honda have ever produced.
Put some decent rubber,a proper suspension,and tune the engine a little bit and that S2000 will beat the shit out of anything on the racetrack. Well maybe except some 4wd turbo beasts
He said that the mugen RR was the fastest Front wheel drive "On sale" so I'm assuming that he meant the s2k was the fastest Rwd "On sale" Not ever produced
true but also in a way, the s2000 is a bit of a type-R, it's just not badged as one. The vtec f20 engine although different to the vtec k20 engine still shares much much similarity. I'm also sure the s2000's handling is set up just as good if not better than any civics. Theres not much else honda could have done with the s2000 whilst still remaining a feasible road production car....it's fairly maxed to it's normally aspirated potential. All our euro 'type-R's' suck while s2000's are better.
the only reason he says the "japanese" civic, i think, he wanted to say the JDM Civic, because we do have an EDM version called FN2 that is manufactured in UK, which is a Hatchback and not a sedan like the FD2. ;-)
Honda what happened to you? No more Integra, no more NSX, no more S2000, No multilink in the type R? Come one honda get it together. Honda of the 90's and early 00's AWESOME
The Nsx-r in undoubtedly an amazing car. But not everyone can afford one. Atleast the Mugen RR is more realistic. I would also hope a S2000-R would also be more affordable than a super car.
@daz374 dude i know what you mean i own an 04 silverstone and i absolutely love it ^.^ its not like driving anything else, when i drive my parents car (accord) it feels like am driving a box around lol. and yea the j's s2k really isnt fair either let alone the ASM, but the MCR would be an interesting battle leaning more towards the MCR though haha.
@jeffbautista the point that... it is a stock civic, just a special addition. you wouldn't way the Mercedes AMG is not stock!!?? right? so just like in this case it is a Civic type RR stock, a fully production vehicle. duh lol
Singapore itself have 3-6 left there used to be 10 of it one was exported to Brunei. The rest was probably deregistered in storage till reregistration after refurbishments from Japan. currently there are 3 on the roads of Singapore and I recently saw one without a spoiler looking chic. Really loved the car and it’s awesome that in Singapore I always get to see all the rare cars
@robert rose, I'm sorry, but get your facts straight. Ayrton senna DID NOT develop the nsx. Ayrton tested it for Honda because they wanted his opinion on the handling
Ho una Honda S 2000 del 2008, è un auto a dir poco Fantastica altro ke Civic, la mia Honda è uno "Tsunami" di auto anche + grandi ne travolge.....tante!!!!
Mclaren manage it with the new MP - rides like a limo, drives like...a Mclaren. Porsche manage it perfectly too - great comfort as an every day car, yet still thrashed most things on a track.
@ralatorre9 might I add the boss 302 kills things in it's price range but not under it, the 370z I would say is the best bang for the buck it has out gone evo and sti in every class of racing, I to am a car guy I've owned imports, euro's, muscle cars, but I actually road race and drift in the season and I have seen fast mustangs around the track just not on stock suspension parts if it's keeping up with stuff in the enthusiast class. which is all nearly stock cars.
If you dont want a stiff suspension buy a fucking cadillac. Im soooo sick of people bitching about ride comfort and still expect to have the performance of an F1 car.....
The one guy who thinks that taking off the roof makes a car go faster. Not really because the air will press against the inside of the car and will slow it down. With the roof up the air will flow over it. Therefore making it faster with the roof up.
Civic Mugen RR vs S2000? Of course the modified Civic is going to win. What is this guy trying to prove? The only thing he proved to me is that a few modifications to the S2000 like suspension probably would have made all the difference between the two lap times.
+Alex Juman It's not modded in the sense that you could walk into any Honda dealership in Japan and buy one. Well, assuming you did so before they were all sold out. They had a very limited production run. With that said, the normal FD2 Civic Type R would have still beat the S2000, so this argument doesn't really matter.
Lad you should use AP1 s2000 that revs at 9k rpm with jdm stock motor at 250 hp....Then we should see some real challenge....AP2 S2k is good but Honda made it more civilized that the AP1s...First models are more brutal one track and power!
@Bryce Czirr K24 it's not a Civic engine. You can swap anything in any car. Stock k20 it's inferior to F20C or F20B . Even to H22. Because it's cheaper every Civic fanboy will praise that K engine . After half of life praising B engines
mugen rr practicality of having 4 doors and a 9k rpm redline awesome!
It's actually got an 8500 rpm red line. The S2000 has 9000.
A stock s2000 which was designed in the late 90's and released in 99. Versus a Mugen RR costing around 30k. Way to go S2k.......👍
The S2000 is a masterpiece!
Asif Aslam
I could not agree more!
Yes but it's slow
i dont care what the figures say id still take the s2000.
the 3 million yen in japan
A mugen edition s2000 would have been a different story
S2000 was made in Japan in the same factory as the NSX. It was made in the Takanezawa before 2004 and then the Suzuka plant after. I think only the Jazz and the Civic are made in the UK.
They should do the mugen s2000 vs the mugen civic, i think that'll be more of a fair match
One thing is for sure. He had a bigger smile while driving the S2000;
The S2000 says it goes like crazy, then this Mugen RR just says it's mental
they're both Hondas. why is everyone complaining about fairness? haha at the end of the day, i think we can all agree on Honda love.
The NSX was a mid mounted engine rear wheel drive. I think he meant the S2000 is the fastest traditional FR layout (Front engine, rear wheel drive) Honda have ever produced.
although that may be true, I still would prefer the one in this video for not only performance, but the looks too.
mugen sounds great
Put some decent rubber,a proper suspension,and tune the engine a little bit and that S2000 will beat the shit out of anything on the racetrack. Well maybe except some 4wd turbo beasts
Me fascina ver al S2000 todo un icono que joya de coche y que maravilla de motor una verdaderos obra de arte de la que solo Honda es capaz de hacer🇪🇦
You do know that is Jason Plato... BTCC Champion twice. I'm pretty sure he knows how to drive a rwd car..
It's ok some drivers struggle with rear wheel drive when they're used to front wheel drive but thats why he doesn't host Top Gear©.
having to rev it up to get performance means that its very economical for everyday use
I think, and this is just a speculation, they were referring to the Honda's that were available as new on the market at the time the video was made.
@davidvu396 It's hard to turbo this car. Because the rev range so huge, there's a definitely going to be turbo lag.
Love Hondas!
He said that the mugen RR was the fastest Front wheel drive "On sale" so I'm assuming that he meant the s2k was the fastest Rwd "On sale" Not ever produced
i want the them both !
@katanamast279
No need to sell the RR, theres enough aftermarket support for the si now that you could build up one faster for less.
it has every aspect of an authentic Mugen Si, it's nice.
True. And other than the prelude, what else is even a competition?
Yes they do! Someone at my high school has one
true but also in a way, the s2000 is a bit of a type-R, it's just not badged as one. The vtec f20 engine although different to the vtec k20 engine still shares much much similarity. I'm also sure the s2000's handling is set up just as good if not better than any civics. Theres not much else honda could have done with the s2000 whilst still remaining a feasible road production car....it's fairly maxed to it's normally aspirated potential. All our euro 'type-R's' suck while s2000's are better.
I love these car !
the only reason he says the "japanese" civic, i think, he wanted to say the JDM Civic, because we do have an EDM version called FN2 that is manufactured in UK, which is a Hatchback and not a sedan like the FD2. ;-)
Has the new Type-R with the 1.6L Turbo been confirmed for the US yet?
@SpiritLwerewolf he means on sale at the time the video was made...but he only said "on sale" for the mugen...
@jeffbautista that's kinda what I thought. why don't they put the mugen civic against the mugen S2000?
Yeah your probably right, but there's no doubt he knows how to drive a RWD car, probably alot better than most people.
Honda what happened to you? No more Integra, no more NSX, no more S2000, No multilink in the type R? Come one honda get it together. Honda of the 90's and early 00's AWESOME
The Nsx-r in undoubtedly an amazing car. But not everyone can afford one. Atleast the Mugen RR is more realistic. I would also hope a S2000-R would also be more affordable than a super car.
NSX was a 'Honda' anywhere outside North America. Only, in America and Canada it was sold as an 'Acura' and badged a 'Honda' elsewhere.
A sport car doesn't have to look like a brick in the first place...
@johnniesi Have you seen the two race one another? Quite similar times most of the time
Their like Nismo or AMG., But they manufacture parts you can buy as well.
@Astropolicals no its not, the s2k is the only stock here... the civic is mugen tuned
Both cars are awesome but the S2000 is the better and cheaper choice compared to the RR
@daz374 dude i know what you mean i own an 04 silverstone and i absolutely love it ^.^ its not like driving anything else, when i drive my parents car (accord) it feels like am driving a box around lol. and yea the j's s2k really isnt fair either let alone the ASM, but the MCR would be an interesting battle leaning more towards the MCR though haha.
AQUI DESPUÉS DE VER LA ENTREVISTA DE SHAN2 DESING EN LAUCH CONTROL😅
@jeffbautista the point that... it is a stock civic, just a special addition. you wouldn't way the Mercedes AMG is not stock!!?? right? so just like in this case it is a Civic type RR stock, a fully production vehicle. duh lol
One of my honda tuning mags has a kswapped s2000. Yeah I agree, the f motor is running near its full potential unlike the k motors
How did they bring it to UK?
It's extremely rare even in Japan.
Singapore itself have 3-6 left there used to be 10 of it one was exported to Brunei. The rest was probably deregistered in storage till reregistration after refurbishments from Japan. currently there are 3 on the roads of Singapore and I recently saw one without a spoiler looking chic. Really loved the car and it’s awesome that in Singapore I always get to see all the rare cars
that mugen is pretty friggen sweet, I could say that I'd be genuinly interested if it was at least awd. but aren't they quite expensive.?
@MrSyaoran74 nsx stopped in 2005, the s2000 was in sale when they made this video
@MrSyaoran74 How about the CBR1100?? ;)
@ElChimbolulo That would be the Chemical Brothers - Believe
Keiichi Tsuchiya can lap that Civic faster than an NSX around Tsukuba.
What year is this from?
the mugen rr is the only civic that has dual exhaust and it doesnt look like a ricer lol.. i love hondas
what's mugen? i wanna know the difference between this and type R
America has the mugen but not the RR model which sucks taht we dont have that..
Man they really need to sell that Civic here in the US. The regular SI sucks balls
@TheWizzardFromOS it was long time ago )))) they are not making them any longer
Vorrai dire "Tsunami" :P
Cmq complimenti per l'auto è una bomba :P
that's driving a tuned car set to his preference. Tiff would have done a better job cuz he feels out the car completely.
I know we have a mugen in the U.S, but the same exact mugen as the one in this video? Because the U.S version looks really different.
only goes to show you how much potential the s2k has. that it was only 1.9 sec off pace. bone stock
@robert rose, I'm sorry, but get your facts straight. Ayrton senna DID NOT develop the nsx. Ayrton tested it for Honda because they wanted his opinion on the handling
im pretty sure that song was playing the entire time
If the s2000 had coilovers it would have easily kept up
I like this reviewer, what happened to him?
Ho una Honda S 2000 del 2008, è un auto a dir poco Fantastica altro ke Civic, la mia Honda è uno "Tsunami" di auto anche + grandi ne travolge.....tante!!!!
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His names Jason Plato his a current racing driver
What about NSX-R?
If they made a s2000 type r. It win, hands down.
should've put a base civic vs base s2000 or mugen civic vs honda s2000 Type S.
the civic is a focused track car, course its gonna win, but he had more fun in the s2k
@SpiritLwerewolf On sale at the time.
Mclaren manage it with the new MP - rides like a limo, drives like...a Mclaren. Porsche manage it perfectly too - great comfort as an every day car, yet still thrashed most things on a track.
McLarens break down all the time and cost 10 times more than a Honda Type-R/S2000.
The nsx was made by Honda, developed by the legendary Ayrton Senna. Then re-badged as a "luxury" Acura for the yankies.
@ralatorre9 might I add the boss 302 kills things in it's price range but not under it, the 370z I would say is the best bang for the buck it has out gone evo and sti in every class of racing, I to am a car guy I've owned imports, euro's, muscle cars, but I actually road race and drift in the season and I have seen fast mustangs around the track just not on stock suspension parts if it's keeping up with stuff in the enthusiast class. which is all nearly stock cars.
What is the name of the song 2:27 min?
Wow... a civic that comes from the factory riced out. Dual exhaust and Euro tail lights. Who thought that would be a good idea???
you want to put a 2 liter 4 cylinder against a 3.2 liter V6?
FWD FTW !!!
If you dont want a stiff suspension buy a fucking cadillac. Im soooo sick of people bitching about ride comfort and still expect to have the performance of an F1 car.....
Tell that to Gordon Shedden after race 3 at Donnigton this year you muppet!
Scusami NeAr1986, nell'euforia avevo alterato lo "Tsumani",senza accorgermene. Ti ringrazio come vedi ho corretto. Saluti
@freddy4sure its the fastest rwd 4cyl honda on the market
@kyleisreallycool
that's true the DC2-R is the fastest FWD ever made
the plastic quality he said ..are carbon kevlar mugen seats
The one guy who thinks that taking off the roof makes a car go faster. Not really because the air will press against the inside of the car and will slow it down. With the roof up the air will flow over it. Therefore making it faster with the roof up.
Civic Mugen RR vs S2000?
Of course the modified Civic is going to win. What is this guy trying to prove? The only thing he proved to me is that a few modifications to the S2000 like suspension probably would have made all the difference between the two lap times.
Obviously the civic was moded but the s2000 is completely stock this is straight bullshit
It's not modded, it's how it was suppose to be build.
mugan rr is modded its a 3rd party company tht modded the car f.y.i
It's not modded, it's how it was suppose to be build.
+Alex Juman It's not modded in the sense that you could walk into any Honda dealership in Japan and buy one. Well, assuming you did so before they were all sold out. They had a very limited production run. With that said, the normal FD2 Civic Type R would have still beat the S2000, so this argument doesn't really matter.
+koopatroopa187 The S2000 is more enjoyable pure RWD car, Civic has backseats. Depends really.
I hate that america doesn't have the mugen :,(
Lad you should use AP1 s2000 that revs at 9k rpm with jdm stock motor at 250 hp....Then we should see some real challenge....AP2 S2k is good but Honda made it more civilized that the AP1s...First models are more brutal one track and power!
9 Years of Difference.
Isnt the nsx the fastest rwd honda on sale ??
he,s not a cheat. BTCC is dog eat dog lol. he a great driver. he always puts a so called lesser team right amongest the big boys.
He compared a stock s2000 to a Mugen,why not a Mugen s2000 or even CR to a Mugen civic
Pengg Vang basically this.
Kit out my s2ki with mugen stuff and 17' wheels and let's do that again.
@Bryce Czirrany K20 faster than F20? Except this Mugen highly tuned engine K20 it's inferior by miles to F20C
@Bryce Czirr K24 it's not a Civic engine. You can swap anything in any car. Stock k20 it's inferior to F20C or F20B . Even to H22. Because it's cheaper every Civic fanboy will praise that K engine . After half of life praising B engines
@Bryce Czirr part 2 moron.
How can you say 16.5s >13.9s in qt mile???
How can you say 1:12 ep3 it's better than 1:09 s2k on Tsukuba?
@Bryce Czirr how 200hp it's better than 241??? How 8000 rpms it's more than 9000rpms???
Howww??????
really really nice car,2.0l na engine produces 240ps,it just amzing,snow us what real engine should be
NSX is acura (i do realize that they're the "same" company)
but due to technicality.. s2k is fastest RWD.
@freddy4sure He said fastest currently on sale... Not ever.
Unfair, they should put mugen against mugen
Honda s2000 mugen vs. honda civic mugen