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Yeah I think it's more psychological - he's more psychic with a crazy sturdy semi energy based anatomy. I'm guessing telekinesis might be at play why a lot of things that should hurt him don't. So when he's mentally sturdy things like Doomsday's claw snaps on his chest, I also read that his weakness to Kryptonite is entirely a mental thing which is kind of where my other thoughts on his powers evolved from. Being psychic would also explain a lot of his OG powers, like that his heat vision should also create matter almost as if wishing something into existence.
I love it when nice heroes like Spiderman and Superman can show off how strong they actually are. A lot of their villains don't understand how lucky they are that people like Clark have morals.
"You have the worst attendance record of any assistant ever and I still didn't fire you" Gotta love how despite having Doomsday on his doorstep, Lex still have time to lecture J'onn about his lousy work record
I hated it when DC started nerfing Superman so that they could push whatever characters they wished to push at his expense. Superman became a punching bag.
Superman is not a god so it was about time they started to nerf him. Only characters who literally are Devine should be overpowered. You act like Superman was nerfed badly though like he was nerfed but not to such a extent were he still doesn’t fit his name. In fact Superman still has more plot power than Batman and that’s pretty bad.
They haven’t exactly nerfed him, it’s a multiverse, and literal Primeval beings have been beaten by the True Original Superman, the Source Superman. His powers have always worked under one general basis, he’s a living solar battery, under certain radiation, he can amass power that is capable of fighting god’s, though he has always had a weakness to magic and other divine or unholy attacks. Kryptonite radiates a signature which is directly harmful to Kryptonian biology, so anybody with access to it gets an extreme advantage in a fight with him. Notably, other, more powerful heroes and villains exist in the DC universe, and have done so even before Superman existed, The God of Dreams, is one of the most powerful beings, and he’s been around for a long time, Superman couldn’t hold a candle to him, simply based on the fact that he is a primordial entity, he went to Hell, and the forces of Hell, with whom he was seeking to bargain information, simply asked why they shouldn’t just bring their full force, the full power of the infinite realm of Hell, and it’s Dukes, Barons and Lords, including Lucifer, to crush him, and he simply replied, “Tell me, Lucifer Morningstar, what power would Hell have, if those imprisoned here were not able to dream of Heaven?” At which the ENTIRETY of hell, stood down, because they knew he was right, he is one of The Endless, alongside Death itself, his elder sister, among others, without them, all of existence would simply cease, they exist outside and alongside the multiverse, and there are few being who can actually harm them, unless they allow it as Dream is seen to do in order to be reborn as a new version of himself, as The Endless are, well, endless, and never truly die, if something COULD get rid of them forever, permanently, which there are a few beings who likely could, they would break the fabric of the multiverse. Superman is strong, incredibly so, and it’s nice to see people still love him, but he also happens to be in the lower the tier of strongest beings, like, if we put him on a list, or a scale, he would be on the lower middle tier of most powerful DC entities, note, Batman, while normally human, due to his intelligence, moves up and down the tier scale, he is often not amongst the most powerful, he is usually in the lower weakest tiers, however, despite this, his extreme intelligence make him acutely more dangerous than his actual strength, especially considering he used it to hack and arm all of Darksides world destroying bombs, despite them being, for anyone else, impossible to figure out, excluding maybe cyborg, as he is made with apocalypse tech, and he also tricked a primordial being to elevate him to GodHood, in order to buy time for Source Superman to access his OG MC power and be like, I may not have sunlight but the love and hopes and dreams of my friends powers me more than I need. All in all, Superman is powerful, although sometimes it doesn’t seem like it, because his enemies have advantages, or are just WAY up there in the food chain.
@@davidfortuin4146 tell why sun light should be able to make a character that strong? I love dc more than marvel but superman is just lazy writing that should be nerfed
Now this is the kind of Superman I can respect! Fully embodying the Limitless that we all crave and yet restrain ourselves from for the benefit of the masses.
Honestly J’onn has the most irritating weakness, he’s my favorite hero and He can do so much, Fire is such a ginormous nerf I mean who can’t get a hold of that stuff, i wish he had some way of resisting it or able to overcome it mentally even for a little while.
Treemaster his weakness to fire is more of a psychic fear more than a weakness due to his Martian physiology, so in theory he can become resistant to fire
@@NP-zv4bf yeah that’s true , i could be wrong but I think J’onn has more resistance to it since he’s been on earth longer than any other Martian?, hopefully one day they’ll make an issue or situation where that handicap is cut off completely at-least for a little while so we can see his full power without being interrupted. I just want to see him be defeated some other way for a change. Ik the guardians of Oa meant well instilling that psychological fear to Martians but honestly what a nerf, and since J’onn is technically not so technically the last Martian they’re not a threat to the Universe so they could do without the fire :( I gotta do more research on it
They aren't actually weak to fire, it is a mental block to prevent his species from becoming an all powerful menace. MM easily ranks up there in power with Supes.
"I've got a $10,000 chunk of meteorite for the one in Metropolis. For you? All I need is a nickel for a book of matches." - Batman to Det. John Jones, 'Justice League: A New Frontier'
Need more Superman stories like that. Just him bring badass. Not the wimp the CW has created. Lol. Big fan of Ed McGuiness’s art too. Met him at Megacon. Very nice guy. Very humble
Bad story . Worst story i ever seen about doomsday , he must be stronger than superman every time . But like i said this story i very bad , and fucked this writer .
No it's not. This is the Superman we know. The reason why it's black behind the S because the amount of deaths due to the war with Imperiax. So his way of mourning
It’s more of superman being stronger than he was, a lot stronger, if doomsday hasn’t evolved beyond what he was becuz this may have been right after doomsday came out of the dimension he was stuck in. Then of course he’s not gonna win like he did before
@@rasenganmaster101 I do agree that this version of Superman is more creative and actually uses most of his ability to his fullest, but I think it's still comes down to Doomsday hesitating and getting frustrated, due to feeling pain and the fear of death. Before this, he was just a walking killing machine who doesn't stop for anything (even pain and death).
Doomsday, although smarter than he originally was, is still very dumb. He relies on physical strength alone to win every fight. Find someone who has equal strength like Superman, and he can't beat him. Also we clearly see doubt and feat get in his head too. He's no longer just an emotionless, unfeeling monster.
What I am surprised about is characters like Thor and Superman seem to be less powerful in some story arcs and beasts in others .like this video , you saw how far superman went . When Thor had the Odin force and fought iron man , he defeated iron man with no effort and stated that he defeated iron man not because of the Odin force , but he stopped holding back . Meaning that normal Thor could do the same thing .
UFC FIGHTERS say that to yourself . In my opinion , Thor would win . Thor can react faster than light, so he ain’t getting speed blitzed . Thor and Superman have the same amount of durability and strength .
Yep..honestly with all of his telepathic abilities he should have been the most powerful member of the justice league..if the characters are properly written i think that he should be able to beat superman and wonder woman but he is not as famous and he doesn't have plot armor instead he gets the boot
I think he only loses to fire because in his head, fire is his weakness. In reality, he's just as durable as Superman and Shazam who both shrug off fire like a bee sting. MMH doesn't have the confidence to beat a difficult opponent.
Unless you are a HIGHLY FOCUSED Martian Manhunter, Fernus, Dr Fate, Nabu, Zatanna, Sentry, The Mask, Spawn, The Darkness, Silver Surfer, Dr Manhantan, Galactis, Thanos with the infinity gauntlet, Dr Strange, Thor, Odin, Or Dr Doom all not with plot insisted stupidity should be able to take out a bloodlusted Superman even a sundipped one one on one or together but it would take hours even if Supes cannot reach or touch them Supes is not easy to catch he may not be The Flashes, Reverse Flashes, Or Zoom but still yeah.
Guys Doomsday was weakened in this encounter, if you look at approximately 4:19. Superman stated that his strength and speed have diminished due to his intellect, which is why Superman seemed so much more powerful than Doomsday.
Doomsday folded him and WW later on even in a rematch Superman admitted that he can't take him on and needs the league, Doomsday took over 4000 punches from a non holding back Superman in rebirth and almost killed supes.
@@eivor3975 He's always holding back even when he says he's not it's weird. The writing is good for the specific story's. But he's beaten him before I think supes currently has the edge in the series by one. But this Superman is post CRISIS, he was just broken. However I'd have to read this issue of this event. But yeah it doesn't surprise Me
@@eivor3975 No it's true, literally since he has a mental block implanted within his subconscious that he can't ever remove. Post CRISIS really set the tone for Superman being so broken, but nerfed at the same time. Besides rebirth. Also he beat this doomsday.
Doomsday has been completely nerfed here, I liked the fact that previously Superman had to rethink how to beat him and worry about the most deadly monster he'd ever faced but once this smart Doomsday appeared the threat disappeared
He isnt nerfed. Superman just is holding back. The tables turn a bit whenever supermans life is suddenly on the line and him dying would only result in everyone else perishing in this situation. If superman dies so does everyone. Doomsday is called doomsday because he is a walking apocalypse. He slaughter entire planets and civilizations just to move on to the next. This is one fight superman just CANT lose or more than just himself ends. The entire world does
Superman holding back does not affect how durable he is. Doomsday beat him to death previously and now his claws break when hitting him? Bad plot armor.
And wouldn’t you know it, they have. Aside from a handful of times where he was caught off guard or severely weakened, it has never felt like he’s anything but in control of the situation.
@@halhala2 Except whenever he shared a screen with Supergirl, and was made to be her weak submissive. On Supergirl, his sole role was to be Supergirl's bitch. It was pathetically insecure on the part of Supergirl's writers.
@@BBKUS If you watch S&L, that's completely ceased being the case. He *feels* like Superman--powerful, empathetic, and *really* good at his job. That "insecurity," among many other reasons, is why I never watched Supergirl aside from the crossover episodes. I was specifically referring to his performance in Superman and Lois, not Arrowverse in general.
@@halhala2 I will admit that Superman and Lois has not been that bad at all. I've enjoyed it, but because of the history, I watch waiting for the woke shoe to drop. Like when they introduced Captain Luthor. But then the twist was that he was John Henry Irons and it was like "screw you woke people, we are doing this right." I think one of the writers was fired or quit because the show wasn't woke enough, and that's a good thing. The writers ruined Supergirl with all that pandering.
@@BBKUS I honestly agree on all points. But after that finale...maaaaan I don't care if it breaks my heart down the line. I'm leaving that foreboding joy behind until they give me a reason to doubt.
I just wish the DC movies were this way! This is why I like marvel but I love all comics! If they took the movie more from the comic books, Both DC and Marvel would be doing good in the box office.
Ooh, I can't wait to see Part 2 of Zimaut's Hulk vs Superman, I wonder what it looks like with the Hulk other than Doomsday when the Man of Steel stops playing
I have always love this comic. Thank you bro. And I never needed to know who would win in a fight. Between mm and supes. DC is superman boat and that boat is far out to sea.. MM is a person trying jump on the boat from the shore lol.
@@johngardeajr.1425 he has mental limitless that he placed there himself to make sure he does not accidentally kill innocent people but he can remove his mental limits which is hard for him to do but if he does then he is basically just shut up I win in a physical body.
Honestly i really find it weird that people do versus battles of 2 fictional characters like hulk vs supes or saitama vs goku or something when in reality they aren't real things to measure against each other in the end if the writers want to make one character more powerful than the other then they only need to do so lol
I've always hated the character Doomsday. Supes throws him into space = done. He can't fly so he can't return. Now park him in the sun and he's DONE. He can't really die, he can't escape the sun's gravity...he just sits there and gets bored watching the nuclear explosions for the next billion years or so.
He very well could possibly at his full strength but I mean honostly how can he when Supes has heat vision ? J’onn still would probably lose but he’d definitely make Supes work for it, and It’s not even a competition anyway they’re both heroes! J’onn could do so much to aid the JL if he didn’t have such an immense nerf of fire, Fire is universal and easy to create and manifest what chance does he have, but it is what it is he’s still my favorite hero.
"Finally. It fills my old heart with joy to see Superman give in and cut..." (Superman rips off Gordon's clothes and leaves him bare ass-naked in the Sahara desert) "...loose."
well that is how it is.... you know, to show what others look like when superman goes all out.... others look like kids before him... that is the plan of the writer... if you feel that doomsday wasn't trying hard or didn't look all powerful then consider it well written....
Ok this is actually getting somewhat annoying so I'm stopping all of you right there. EVERYONE in the JL holds back. Flash doesn't Infinite Mass punch his enemies, phase through their hearts or erase them from history. Green Lantern doesn't override the no lethal force rule of the ring. Shazam never uses lethal force, he is a kid for god's sake. Batman doesn't hit pressure points on his opponents' heart or neck, he doesn't tase them with the 20.000 volt tasers he has in his gauntlets, he doesn't throw explosives on regular people's heads, he isn't in a power suit all the time, although he could. And Martian Manhunter doesn't instantly shut off people's brains, or turn into a psychotic pyrokinetic monster, although he could. So enough with the "Superman holds back excuse". Cause at this point it's obvious that every JL member does.
@@glorilol9546 Says the guy who has a hard on for superman LMAO! dude,at this point you're so obvious to the Fact 🤣 what he said is 💯 TRUE.they are a bunch of FICTIONAL characters who are AS POWERFUL AS THE WRITER WANTS THEM TO BE.every single one of them has limitless potential cause they have shown that in the past.superman is NOT the ONLY hero with god like powers just ready to be unleashed.there were many times when one member of the league(MMH,WW,Flash,GL and captain Atom) had saved all of them from danger and granted them a victory.but you clearly can't see that and just ignoring it cause you're Biased ASF.
Every member of the JL does hold back. This is 100% true. However, here's the difference. When Green Lantern stops holding back, the rest of the JL doesn't fall to him or become his lackeys. When Batman stops holding back, nobody bats an eye. When Wonder Woman stops holding back, she gets judgmental looks and head shakes. When Flash stops holding back, nothing changes. When Shazam stops holding back, he becomes a Black Adam copycat and the League handles Adam all the time. When Martian Manhunter stops holding back, the League deal with him. When Superman stops holding back, the League becomes very afraid. All those beings you listed and I listed start to sweat bullets. When Superman stops holding back, he makes everybody his bitch and takes over the world. When Superman stops holding back, the very beings that can normally stand up to him start to worry. When Superman stops holding back, the gods themselves tremble.
That may be the case for Superman Pre Crisis And Superman Prime and maybe Superman one million but every other Supes could be taken down when out for others life's if they are the highest tiers of power Swiss army knifes like The Martian Manhunter, Fernus, And Vision. High magical users like Dr Fate, Nabu, Zatanna, Dr Strange, Or Spawn. Toon force users like The Mask. Cosmic ultimate handlers like Silver Surfer, Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet, Dr Manhatten, Captain Atom. High tiered Force users like The Skywalkers, And The Ones From Mortis. As well as ultimate powered kryptonite users and not just any kryptonite but golden kryptonite. Or red solar radiation powerhouses. If you are none of those then you get taken out be Post Crisis and Non Prime And Non One Million Supes yeah.
This is nonsense what makes superman more powerful than doomsday Doomsday is from krypton nd even on krypton he was basically a superman so holding back or not superman shouldnt be able to do anythng to doomsday especially since with each encounter doomsday only gets more powerful Also what was that with martian manhunter honestly dc needs to get its head straight nd stop messing with characters jus to make superman shine
It seems you don't know a thing about Superman which is really unfortunate. If you knew anything you would know that Superman and Doomsday are evenly matched roughly. They have fought on different occasions and Superman hasn't lost to Doomsday since he "died" the first time.
@@timelessspectre6049 i know alot of superman i also know that dc has said everytime doomsday is killed by somethng he comes back immune to it nd with each encounter he gets more powerful eventually superman would lose to doomsday given time Also u jus said they r evenly matched so why does it look like superman didnt even try in that fight
Timeless Spectre dude get your facts straight Superman isn’t stronger then Doomsday... THIS ISNT THE REAL DOOMSDAY HES A CLONE.... Superman isn’t stronger why do you think he can’t beat him by sheer strength? He does other things to defeat him and if you feel differently post some facts so I can debunk them... don’t tell me he can do this or that post facts... and don’t dare say their strength is equal that’s a joke
*He also made Doomsday his bitch in Injustice. Really shows how powerful superman can be if he doesn't hold back.*
didn't Bane help him?
Yeah I think it's more psychological - he's more psychic with a crazy sturdy semi energy based anatomy. I'm guessing telekinesis might be at play why a lot of things that should hurt him don't. So when he's mentally sturdy things like Doomsday's claw snaps on his chest, I also read that his weakness to Kryptonite is entirely a mental thing which is kind of where my other thoughts on his powers evolved from.
Being psychic would also explain a lot of his OG powers, like that his heat vision should also create matter almost as if wishing something into existence.
@@dibaterman right
@@dibaterman Why would kryptonite be a mental weakness? That doesn't make sense for him as he has no trauma from it originally.
Yeahhhh but he got beat up alot in Injustice but you can argue he wasn't going all out in those cases
I love it when nice heroes like Spiderman and Superman can show off how strong they actually are. A lot of their villains don't understand how lucky they are that people like Clark have morals.
If Spidey went all out he could take over New York City within a Day if Superman Stopped holding back he could take over the world within an hour
@@ASS-tb3mqspidey more like a month
@@Havsue with prep yeah
The more powerful heroes would stop him@@ASS-tb3mq
@@ASS-tb3mqSpiderman that is....
"You have the worst attendance record of any assistant ever and I still didn't fire you"
Gotta love how despite having Doomsday on his doorstep, Lex still have time to lecture J'onn about his lousy work record
Listen, this is what everyone needs to understand. Once Superman snaps it's a wrap
Nah batman prepared for that
@@typicalday3205 😂😂
@@Omni313rd what
@@typicalday3205 it made me laugh
@@Omni313rd why
I like how they incorporated his speed along with his strength. McGuiness is an awesome artist. I’m glad he got a run on hulk as well.
I loved McGuiness superman, he is a great artist and hes always properly displaying how broken Superman is. Even while holding back.
Doomsday: I’m about to end this whole men career
Superman: reverses cards
Ah yes english
Doomsday : comesback
@@andreasnorstrom9759 Yes
@*SPOM* he can't die the same way twice
@*SPOM* Not the same Doosmday as pre 52 not even close to Hunter prey Doomsday who easily defeated an amped Superman
When Thor or Superman get that angry it's all over
Yessir 💯
Also hulk when angry and no more holding back
@@limitbreaker5560 hulk is always angry
@@limitbreaker5560 that's quite a trio
Sentry:Can I join in?
I hated it when DC started nerfing Superman so that they could push whatever characters they wished to push at his expense. Superman became a punching bag.
Superman is not a god so it was about time they started to nerf him. Only characters who literally are Devine should be overpowered. You act like Superman was nerfed badly though like he was nerfed but not to such a extent were he still doesn’t fit his name. In fact Superman still has more plot power than Batman and that’s pretty bad.
A Batman fan I presume. No use talking to you then. Have an awesome day my good man.
They haven’t exactly nerfed him, it’s a multiverse, and literal Primeval beings have been beaten by the True Original Superman, the Source Superman. His powers have always worked under one general basis, he’s a living solar battery, under certain radiation, he can amass power that is capable of fighting god’s, though he has always had a weakness to magic and other divine or unholy attacks. Kryptonite radiates a signature which is directly harmful to Kryptonian biology, so anybody with access to it gets an extreme advantage in a fight with him. Notably, other, more powerful heroes and villains exist in the DC universe, and have done so even before Superman existed, The God of Dreams, is one of the most powerful beings, and he’s been around for a long time, Superman couldn’t hold a candle to him, simply based on the fact that he is a primordial entity, he went to Hell, and the forces of Hell, with whom he was seeking to bargain information, simply asked why they shouldn’t just bring their full force, the full power of the infinite realm of Hell, and it’s Dukes, Barons and Lords, including Lucifer, to crush him, and he simply replied, “Tell me, Lucifer Morningstar, what power would Hell have, if those imprisoned here were not able to dream of Heaven?” At which the ENTIRETY of hell, stood down, because they knew he was right, he is one of The Endless, alongside Death itself, his elder sister, among others, without them, all of existence would simply cease, they exist outside and alongside the multiverse, and there are few being who can actually harm them, unless they allow it as Dream is seen to do in order to be reborn as a new version of himself, as The Endless are, well, endless, and never truly die, if something COULD get rid of them forever, permanently, which there are a few beings who likely could, they would break the fabric of the multiverse. Superman is strong, incredibly so, and it’s nice to see people still love him, but he also happens to be in the lower the tier of strongest beings, like, if we put him on a list, or a scale, he would be on the lower middle tier of most powerful DC entities, note, Batman, while normally human, due to his intelligence, moves up and down the tier scale, he is often not amongst the most powerful, he is usually in the lower weakest tiers, however, despite this, his extreme intelligence make him acutely more dangerous than his actual strength, especially considering he used it to hack and arm all of Darksides world destroying bombs, despite them being, for anyone else, impossible to figure out, excluding maybe cyborg, as he is made with apocalypse tech, and he also tricked a primordial being to elevate him to GodHood, in order to buy time for Source Superman to access his OG MC power and be like, I may not have sunlight but the love and hopes and dreams of my friends powers me more than I need. All in all, Superman is powerful, although sometimes it doesn’t seem like it, because his enemies have advantages, or are just WAY up there in the food chain.
@@davidfortuin4146 tell why sun light should be able to make a character that strong? I love dc more than marvel but superman is just lazy writing that should be nerfed
@@rob20ist batman has no power lmao
2:51 *Get up.*
That's the baddest-ass thing Superman has ever said.
Once Superman's eyes go fire red its game over.
I’m replying to this late but even super saiyan shaggy admits that Superman not holding your done for
0:23 According too Vegeta "If life can be given to it then life can be taken from it" .
Pro. Logic .
Exactly...
It's actually " If this thing can be given life, it can also have it taken away."
...not for Superman..he dies...and always co.e back..
@@DaDecider actually you can take that away. If you can save KRYPTON then superman is no more.
Now this is the kind of Superman I can respect! Fully embodying the Limitless that we all crave and yet restrain ourselves from for the benefit of the masses.
"Yes and he's learning...good I plan on teaching him a lesson" ooo sups bout to give this fool the elbows
If he comes to you and tells you he's going to throw hands, all you're going to do is hope you get 1 hit in so you can say you went down swinging
Honestly J’onn has the most irritating weakness, he’s my favorite hero and He can do so much, Fire is such a ginormous nerf I mean who can’t get a hold of that stuff, i wish he had some way of resisting it or able to overcome it mentally even for a little while.
Treemaster his weakness to fire is more of a psychic fear more than a weakness due to his Martian physiology, so in theory he can become resistant to fire
@@NP-zv4bf yeah that’s true , i could be wrong but I think J’onn has more resistance to it since he’s been on earth longer than any other Martian?, hopefully one day they’ll make an issue or situation where that handicap is cut off completely at-least for a little while so we can see his full power without being interrupted. I just want to see him be defeated some other way for a change. Ik the guardians of Oa meant well instilling that psychological fear to Martians but honestly what a nerf, and since J’onn is technically not so technically the last Martian they’re not a threat to the Universe so they could do without the fire :( I gotta do more research on it
he did overcome it mentally once in the comics he instantly became an unstopable villain lol he ended up soloing the league fire martians dont play
They aren't actually weak to fire, it is a mental block to prevent his species from becoming an all powerful menace. MM easily ranks up there in power with Supes.
"I've got a $10,000 chunk of meteorite for the one in Metropolis. For you? All I need is a nickel for a book of matches." - Batman to Det. John Jones, 'Justice League: A New Frontier'
Need more Superman stories like that. Just him bring badass. Not the wimp the CW has created. Lol. Big fan of Ed McGuiness’s art too. Met him at Megacon. Very nice guy. Very humble
That's the real superman.
Superman is just like doomsday... They both can never die the same way twice
Great story. I LOVE how Superman got his revenge on Doomsday :-)
I feel like it was wasted in such a sinple and one-sided fight tho. I would have been expected an epic fight.
@@lorenzoherreros6641 Meh. Didn't feel like it to me. They could've made it a little longer though
Bad story . Worst story i ever seen about doomsday , he must be stronger than superman every time . But like i said this story i very bad , and fucked this writer .
*Respect Superman.*
X200
Whenever Superman gets mad, I get sad...sad for whoever he's mad at... fear the mad man with the cape.
When i was a kid i used to like this superman with black background to the *S* symbol instead of yellow
Yeah it means that when there is darkness there will be always hope or smthin
@@lightanimations9669 good interpretation
This superman's name is kingdom come superman in case you want to find more information about him
Wich series was this?
No it's not. This is the Superman we know. The reason why it's black behind the S because the amount of deaths due to the war with Imperiax. So his way of mourning
Superman dumb strong.. the fact that he is patient...is a blessing.. he always pulls thru
Last time i was this early i didnt have a comic youtube channel
Superman layed doomsday down flat on his ass and showed why he is called the man of steel.
I wonder what a blue sun dipped Superman is capable of doing.
This is early 2000s Superman, he was OP as shit. The modern day Superman doesn't come close
Shit was OP?
It means he was strong af
Modern Superman beat World Forger
Doomsday later on folded him and WW both together
@@eivor3975 Owaw Superman Beat Doomsday
Superman put the fear of god in doomsday.. dayuum.
Now this is the Post Crises Superman i want:)
And he still hold back the only one and truly time he use hes real power
I need a cigarette after this one
It's unhealthy mate
@@utoresa5193 Health doesn't matter when you're so Shook.
@dayo olufade: Ill be right back, im gonna go out and smoke a tree.
😂😂
Dayo Olufade you know you really shouldn’t smoke mrs lane.
This isn't even a fight. It's called bullying.
Underrated
Lol
Just Like Superman vs Stepphenwolf
When the silent kid in the class gets serious
Superman wins wins wins wins
Brilliant music really fit the scenes.👍🏻
Steve Parker 😁😁😁
Im loving the superman comics
Superman learned the afterimage strike
I'm a huge superman fan, but this is more of the creator nerfing Doomsday than Superman "not holding back".
It’s more of superman being stronger than he was, a lot stronger, if doomsday hasn’t evolved beyond what he was becuz this may have been right after doomsday came out of the dimension he was stuck in. Then of course he’s not gonna win like he did before
@@rasenganmaster101 I do agree that this version of Superman is more creative and actually uses most of his ability to his fullest, but I think it's still comes down to Doomsday hesitating and getting frustrated, due to feeling pain and the fear of death. Before this, he was just a walking killing machine who doesn't stop for anything (even pain and death).
@Gianpaolo Sitohang he shouldn't, but he wouldn't win against doomsday, plus didn't doomsday use fire against manhunter?
Doomsday, although smarter than he originally was, is still very dumb. He relies on physical strength alone to win every fight. Find someone who has equal strength like Superman, and he can't beat him. Also we clearly see doubt and feat get in his head too. He's no longer just an emotionless, unfeeling monster.
Damn he sounds like Batman here.
That’s a terrifying sign
Thor shoukd have been like this.. making him emphasize that he is always holding back instead of sometimes making him a pushover
When superman stops holding back you need to run you can't stop him .
A Superman who’ll kill is both terrifying and exciting. I’m liking this arc.
Supes out here clapping cheeks!
What I am surprised about is characters like Thor and Superman seem to be less powerful in some story arcs and beasts in others .like this video , you saw how far superman went . When Thor had the Odin force and fought iron man , he defeated iron man with no effort and stated that he defeated iron man not because of the Odin force , but he stopped holding back . Meaning that normal Thor could do the same thing .
ThunderStorm Studios yes but superman is best
UFC FIGHTERS say that to yourself . In my opinion , Thor would win . Thor can react faster than light, so he ain’t getting speed blitzed . Thor and Superman have the same amount of durability and strength .
ThunderStorm Studios Well Thor is stated to have no physical limitations
King Atlan of Atlantis do you mean that he has no physical limitations ?
@@thunderstormstudios7104 No he means Thor has no psysical limitations
At least Superman wasn't nerfed in this one🗿
MMH always treated like a second rate punching ball
Yep..honestly with all of his telepathic abilities he should have been the most powerful member of the justice league..if the characters are properly written i think that he should be able to beat superman and wonder woman but he is not as famous and he doesn't have plot armor instead he gets the boot
I think he only loses to fire because in his head, fire is his weakness. In reality, he's just as durable as Superman and Shazam who both shrug off fire like a bee sting. MMH doesn't have the confidence to beat a difficult opponent.
We need more instances of Kal not holding back. Having otherwise modest gods being forced to show their skill is a great thing to watch.
His spikes literally broke off his chest
He wont stop THE INCREDIBLE HULK.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's all fun and games, till Supes get's pissed!
Unless you are a HIGHLY FOCUSED Martian Manhunter, Fernus, Dr Fate, Nabu, Zatanna, Sentry, The Mask, Spawn, The Darkness, Silver Surfer, Dr Manhantan, Galactis, Thanos with the infinity gauntlet, Dr Strange, Thor, Odin, Or Dr Doom all not with plot insisted stupidity should be able to take out a bloodlusted Superman even a sundipped one one on one or together but it would take hours even if Supes cannot reach or touch them Supes is not easy to catch he may not be The Flashes, Reverse Flashes, Or Zoom but still yeah.
This is also Owaw Superman
superman's potential can develop more and more... omg
That can be said for every hero who doesnt hold back
^
Any hero or good person in fiction.
The Flash can shatter every Universe at the same time...he can
Guys Doomsday was weakened in this encounter, if you look at approximately 4:19. Superman stated that his strength and speed have diminished due to his intellect, which is why Superman seemed so much more powerful than Doomsday.
Yea, he's not putting his all into it because now he understands fear and is afraid of superman.
Doomsday-Go burr.
Superman: Not impressed
Doomsday folded him and WW later on even in a rematch Superman admitted that he can't take him on and needs the league, Doomsday took over 4000 punches from a non holding back Superman in rebirth and almost killed supes.
@@eivor3975 He's always holding back even when he says he's not it's weird.
The writing is good for the specific story's.
But he's beaten him before I think supes currently has the edge in the series by one.
But this Superman is post CRISIS, he was just broken.
However I'd have to read this issue of this event. But yeah it doesn't surprise Me
@@slayersaber4150 it's always 50/50 between them but all in all it's Doomsday ~> Superman
@@slayersaber4150 lmao this holding back has become such a good excuse for getting his ass kicked lololol
@@eivor3975 No it's true, literally since he has a mental block implanted within his subconscious that he can't ever remove.
Post CRISIS really set the tone for Superman being so broken, but nerfed at the same time. Besides rebirth.
Also he beat this doomsday.
Doomsday has been completely nerfed here, I liked the fact that previously Superman had to rethink how to beat him and worry about the most deadly monster he'd ever faced but once this smart Doomsday appeared the threat disappeared
Yeah, I don't see how being smarter makes him slower or his claws more brittle. His whole deal is he's Kryptonian too, but better
He isnt nerfed. Superman just is holding back. The tables turn a bit whenever supermans life is suddenly on the line and him dying would only result in everyone else perishing in this situation. If superman dies so does everyone. Doomsday is called doomsday because he is a walking apocalypse. He slaughter entire planets and civilizations just to move on to the next. This is one fight superman just CANT lose or more than just himself ends. The entire world does
Well doomsdays power level are not higher than Clarks according to my bat computer clark is a man of good hearts he holds his self back always
Superman holding back does not affect how durable he is. Doomsday beat him to death previously and now his claws break when hitting him? Bad plot armor.
@@memochico5521 Superman simply got stronger, by absorbing energy from the sun
They need to establish this on Superman and Lois. He has to be shown to be the greatest force for good in the Arrowverse, not a woke wimp.
And wouldn’t you know it, they have. Aside from a handful of times where he was caught off guard or severely weakened, it has never felt like he’s anything but in control of the situation.
@@halhala2 Except whenever he shared a screen with Supergirl, and was made to be her weak submissive. On Supergirl, his sole role was to be Supergirl's bitch. It was pathetically insecure on the part of Supergirl's writers.
@@BBKUS If you watch S&L, that's completely ceased being the case. He *feels* like Superman--powerful, empathetic, and *really* good at his job. That "insecurity," among many other reasons, is why I never watched Supergirl aside from the crossover episodes. I was specifically referring to his performance in Superman and Lois, not Arrowverse in general.
@@halhala2 I will admit that Superman and Lois has not been that bad at all. I've enjoyed it, but because of the history, I watch waiting for the woke shoe to drop. Like when they introduced Captain Luthor. But then the twist was that he was John Henry Irons and it was like "screw you woke people, we are doing this right." I think one of the writers was fired or quit because the show wasn't woke enough, and that's a good thing. The writers ruined Supergirl with all that pandering.
@@BBKUS I honestly agree on all points. But after that finale...maaaaan I don't care if it breaks my heart down the line. I'm leaving that foreboding joy behind until they give me a reason to doubt.
This is Post Crisis Superman
I just wish the DC movies were this way! This is why I like marvel but I love all comics! If they took the movie more from the comic books, Both DC and Marvel would be doing good in the box office.
When Superman's eyes go LED Mode, it's over.
Did Superman just stand still and tank Doomsday attack?
It's always baffled me when villians think "Yah we can run away" or " Yah we can beat him" after stuff like this happens
What if thor and Superman fought each other while holding back
When superman has defeated the death herself nothing or nobody can stop him, he's invincible now
And now to insure he doesn't come back, dump him into the Sun or the nearest Black Hole!
Doomsday is Kryptonian, dumping him into the sun would only power him up.
@@HepCatJack True! So we find a red sun....or have Lex Luthor cook in a red sun radiation microwave...in a Sweet & Sour Sauce!
Ooh, I can't wait to see Part 2 of Zimaut's Hulk vs Superman, I wonder what it looks like with the Hulk other than Doomsday when the Man of Steel stops playing
I have always love this comic. Thank you bro. And I never needed to know who would win in a fight. Between mm and supes. DC is superman boat and that boat is far out to sea.. MM is a person trying jump on the boat from the shore lol.
MMH is extremely overrated... Despite his HUGE amount of powers he have no endurance or durability against metahumans..
Stands no chance vs Phoenix, she thinks him out of existence lol
When superman gets angry that means u are dead doesn’t matter how strong u are
Thats what makes him boring though...
Not true at all.
Tell that to Hunter Prey Doomsday...
@@RJMacReady1 says The people who have nevere a read a superman comic in their lives....
@@glorilol9546 I think he's boring as a character don't consider him to be "OP"
Again amazing score played. Love your editing and taste in music
Ain’t Martian man hunter considered to be superman equal
Buffman vs Buffman 2.0 skeleto boy
Everyone has limits even Superman. He showed the mental fortitude it took to overcome those limits and be a better version of himself.
Superman has no limits
@@johngardeajr.1425 he has mental limitless that he placed there himself to make sure he does not accidentally kill innocent people but he can remove his mental limits which is hard for him to do but if he does then he is basically just shut up I win in a physical body.
There are more OP characters than him
Damn Doomsdays claws snapped when he hit him....
Honestly i really find it weird that people do versus battles of 2 fictional characters like hulk vs supes or saitama vs goku or something when in reality they aren't real things to measure against each other in the end if the writers want to make one character more powerful than the other then they only need to do so lol
Only logical comment here lol.
I've always hated the character Doomsday. Supes throws him into space = done. He can't fly so he can't return. Now park him in the sun and he's DONE. He can't really die, he can't escape the sun's gravity...he just sits there and gets bored watching the nuclear explosions for the next billion years or so.
So what Superman is basically saying.
Mindless Doomsday > "Smart" Doomsday
Mindless Doomsday>>>>Intelligent Doomsday (he still ain't smart)
Mindless doomsday isn’t susceptible to pain like intelligent doomsday is.
Dang Clark channeling some Batman there
Supes Never Hold Back. 💪
Answer is the same brother. ✌️
@Alfredo Arredondo He had to remove his powers to impregnate her
Hello chetta
Vendra Vittu Kala.
@Alfredo Arredondo She might insert a little of Batman's Kryptonite dust to keep down the wear and tear 😯.
He stopped holding back and bust a crazy wad
YET EVERYONE SAY MM WILL BEAT HIM.THIS IS THE REALITY.SUPERMAN OWNS HIM
He very well could possibly at his full strength but I mean honostly how can he when Supes has heat vision ? J’onn still would probably lose but he’d definitely make Supes work for it, and It’s not even a competition anyway they’re both heroes! J’onn could do so much to aid the JL if he didn’t have such an immense nerf of fire, Fire is universal and easy to create and manifest what chance does he have, but it is what it is he’s still my favorite hero.
Bruh if Superman use heat vision
MM will loose
He's faster than before 🔥🔥🔥
I don’t hate the art work it’s ok but the ink work is amazing! Storyline is Meh.
IrishPizzaMan I agree ! Those are some vibrant colors.
Storyline is pretty good as far as him being able to get even with Doomsday :-)
You kidding right? The artwork of ed mcguiness is Amazing!
@@SoloPlayer31 artistry is wack but to each his own...too cartoonie
@@MMFRESHSW811 thats what i like about it
So he finally use FEAR..
poor guy needs a certain type of sun...GG superman....how tuf would you be in Alpha Centauri?, not so much
"Finally. It fills my old heart with joy to see Superman give in and cut..."
(Superman rips off Gordon's clothes and leaves him bare ass-naked in the Sahara desert)
"...loose."
And they say Dbz can kill him
Never...!!
Superman, shazam, thor all are on a different levels
Yep dbz can kill them all marvel and dc comic heroes ang villains are weak.
@@znarfpogi1484 shut up, dbz fanboy
@@znarfpogi1484...
NEVER!
Never make superman angry, it's pretty much game over for everyone once you make superman mad😰😨😧
Not really Superman relishing his strength as much as doomsday being weaker due to not trying as hard.
well that is how it is.... you know, to show what others look like when superman goes all out.... others look like kids before him... that is the plan of the writer... if you feel that doomsday wasn't trying hard or didn't look all powerful then consider it well written....
He's super fast.
We need Supermam to stop holding back in the DC movies.
did you see what he did to steppenwolf ? lol
I mean Superman was still holding back here.
E1M1 is the propler soundtrack for angry supes.
Ok this is actually getting somewhat annoying so I'm stopping all of you right there.
EVERYONE in the JL holds back. Flash doesn't Infinite Mass punch his enemies, phase through their hearts or erase them from history. Green Lantern doesn't override the no lethal force rule of the ring. Shazam never uses lethal force, he is a kid for god's sake. Batman doesn't hit pressure points on his opponents' heart or neck, he doesn't tase them with the 20.000 volt tasers he has in his gauntlets, he doesn't throw explosives on regular people's heads, he isn't in a power suit all the time, although he could. And Martian Manhunter doesn't instantly shut off people's brains, or turn into a psychotic pyrokinetic monster, although he could. So enough with the "Superman holds back excuse". Cause at this point it's obvious that every JL member does.
It annoy you isn't? Good...
@@glorilol9546 Says the guy who has a hard on for superman LMAO! dude,at this point you're so obvious to the Fact 🤣 what he said is 💯 TRUE.they are a bunch of FICTIONAL characters who are AS POWERFUL AS THE WRITER WANTS THEM TO BE.every single one of them has limitless potential cause they have shown that in the past.superman is NOT the ONLY hero with god like powers just ready to be unleashed.there were many times when one member of the league(MMH,WW,Flash,GL and captain Atom) had saved all of them from danger and granted them a victory.but you clearly can't see that and just ignoring it cause you're Biased ASF.
@@NJ-eo2oc and of course when The Guy talk his ass-kisser is nit far behind .... GTFO lol
Every member of the JL does hold back. This is 100% true. However, here's the difference. When Green Lantern stops holding back, the rest of the JL doesn't fall to him or become his lackeys. When Batman stops holding back, nobody bats an eye. When Wonder Woman stops holding back, she gets judgmental looks and head shakes. When Flash stops holding back, nothing changes. When Shazam stops holding back, he becomes a Black Adam copycat and the League handles Adam all the time. When Martian Manhunter stops holding back, the League deal with him. When Superman stops holding back, the League becomes very afraid. All those beings you listed and I listed start to sweat bullets. When Superman stops holding back, he makes everybody his bitch and takes over the world. When Superman stops holding back, the very beings that can normally stand up to him start to worry. When Superman stops holding back, the gods themselves tremble.
@@Falcun21 bingo!
Wow....about time!!!
When Superman snaps you know he is angry really angry he's constantly holding back but when he lets loose someone has done messed up big time
Once superman gets serious nobody can defeat him, because at the the moment he does get serious only the forces of heaven itself can stop him.
That may be the case for Superman Pre Crisis And Superman Prime and maybe Superman one million but every other Supes could be taken down when out for others life's if they are the highest tiers of power Swiss army knifes like The Martian Manhunter, Fernus, And Vision. High magical users like Dr Fate, Nabu, Zatanna, Dr Strange, Or Spawn. Toon force users like The Mask. Cosmic ultimate handlers like Silver Surfer, Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet, Dr Manhatten, Captain Atom. High tiered Force users like The Skywalkers, And The Ones From Mortis. As well as ultimate powered kryptonite users and not just any kryptonite but golden kryptonite. Or red solar radiation powerhouses. If you are none of those then you get taken out be Post Crisis and Non Prime And Non One Million Supes yeah.
How many times is DC gonna dip into that Doomsday well?
Prolly a lot since he can't ever die totally
Should have Lobo fight him then, he can't die either.
Superman was still holding back. That city would've been erased if he didn't hold back.
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Fuckn supes is shredded bro lol looking like a baki character with all them cuts
This is nonsense what makes superman more powerful than doomsday
Doomsday is from krypton nd even on krypton he was basically a superman so holding back or not superman shouldnt be able to do anythng to doomsday especially since with each encounter doomsday only gets more powerful
Also what was that with martian manhunter honestly dc needs to get its head straight nd stop messing with characters jus to make superman shine
It seems you don't know a thing about Superman which is really unfortunate. If you knew anything you would know that Superman and Doomsday are evenly matched roughly. They have fought on different occasions and Superman hasn't lost to Doomsday since he "died" the first time.
@@timelessspectre6049 i know alot of superman i also know that dc has said everytime doomsday is killed by somethng he comes back immune to it nd with each encounter he gets more powerful eventually superman would lose to doomsday given time
Also u jus said they r evenly matched so why does it look like superman didnt even try in that fight
@@ridgefrost This is not the original Doosmday
They do this BS everytime Doomsday can and has defeated Superman several times
Timeless Spectre dude get your facts straight Superman isn’t stronger then Doomsday... THIS ISNT THE REAL DOOMSDAY HES A CLONE.... Superman isn’t stronger why do you think he can’t beat him by sheer strength? He does other things to defeat him and if you feel differently post some facts so I can debunk them... don’t tell me he can do this or that post facts... and don’t dare say their strength is equal that’s a joke