UPDATE: Hi just wanna say thanks a lot for getting this video to almost 40k views and getting my channel to 1k subs. I really appreciate it and I’m so happy to see so many of you enjoyed the video. That being said there is also a number of you that have given very constructive criticism and ur own thoughts on that matter which is good. This video should be sparking discussion and allowing people to think critically. Imma take the time to address some common things I’ve been getting in my comments Authority: One of the most commons things I hear is that gigguk has never called himself an authority figure and we shouldn’t really take his opinions all that serious. I totally get that tbh and it was always hard for me to put into words what I mean by saying “he has an authority” cus you kinda have to see it to believe it i guess. I just feel when he talks about certain anime there’s kind of an arrogance to his tone or this sarcastic nature he has that gives me the impression he thinks he knows what he’s talking about. I didn’t wanna out that in the video because I feel that would sound too much like I’m trying to attack gigguk as a person because he shouldn’t have to change his tone of voice for my sake. I think in general He has certain takes where it’s not necessarily like “correct” per se but they’re generally accepted opinions so they’re kind of seen as common knowledge. Examples would be like “Berserk is a Masterpiece” “Hunter x Hunter is one of the greatest shonen manga ever made” “One piece has the best world building in manga” none of these takes should be considered absolutely 100% fact, but in the anime community they are seen as common knowledge or like “yeh that makes sense”. It’s fine in regards to the examples I just listed because even if they’re considered the “normie” opinion they’re still totally fair and there’s a lot of merit in those takes. However this starts to fall on his face a bit when he starts saying stuff like “naruto is about hard work beats talents” or “goku is a bad father” which is stuff that was generally accepted only to later be debunked or disproven. So it’s not necessarily that gigguk thinks he has an authority that was bad wording on my part. I think it’s more so that he just knows that these are very generally accepted opinions so it’s easy for him to just throw them out there and be like “they’ll know what I’m talking about” when in reality he starts to seem more ignorant once you look in a bit more. The issue was never that gigguk doesn’t like x show or that he doesn’t understand the complexities of x show. The issue is that he seems to just be going off of the popular opinions just for the sake of being in the good graces of the community rather than coming to his own conclusions. I could care less if gigguk doesn’t like or care for dbz or naruto or whatever show that was never the point. I just think if ur gonna be making strong claims for or against these series, you should give a good reason as to why or don’t talk about them at all. I mean I don’t know maybe these are his opinions and they all just happen to fall under the popular opinions. But from everything I’ve seen of him whether that be on video, podcast or stream…the harder it is for me to think these are his real opinions. Gigguk is not a critic…or at least not necessarily: It was always difficult to pin point whether I should call gigguk a critic, analyzer or just an entertainer since from my experience he seems to be doing all 3. He’s obviously not making super eyepatch wolf style analysis videos, but he has talked about critically thinking or analyzation in his videos *when he was talking about nakeyjakey on trash taste*, but his videos are still primarily comedy based. Idk exactly what to label him but I’ll say this…no matter what gigguk videos are still predicated on anime discussion. Even if it’s mainly comedic or surface level he still talks about whether a show is good/bad/worth your time/a masterpiece you get the jist. He is still trying to make a point or some type of critque on a show to some degree. what I’ve noticed is that whether ppl liked or disliked my video everyone collectively agreed that they don’t watch his videos for his opinions at all and just for his comedy. Imma be honest, I think that in it self is not really a good thing. Don’t get me wrong your goal as a content creator should be to entertain that was my top priority with my video was to first be an entertaining video and second be a somewhat informative video. You need to have a balance of both so here’s what I’ll say If you’re making videos/streams/whatever predicated on anime discussion or talking about your opinions on an anime…but nobody cares about what you have to say about an anime is that really a good thing? Let me know what you guys think but I hope this clarifies some things. ✌️✌️✌️ Apologies for any grammar mistakes
Gigguk always has been a jack of all trades and a master of none; and through his years on UA-cam he's skewed more towards different areas at different points in time Hence it's almost natural that he's not the best analyst or critic and misses the deeper nuances of shows as well as only being familiar with the surface level opinions of most shows He's currently skewing far more towards entertainer than anything else and if it's making him money and happiness, then more power to him. He shouldn't have to change for us after all
that doesn’t stop their opinion or critique from having a big impact on the community, and that’s where most people have a problem because being popular means you have INFLUENCE
Bruh they are making more impact in anime culture and making more ppl watch anime, i myself am watching anime because of him and his videos, totally deserved subs and audience
I love Gigguk but I never really consider him a proper critic in the traditional sense. He is more of an entertainer than an actual critic. I don't take him that seriously and I don't think even Gigguk does either. The reason is why he's so popular is because he caters to the normie anime fans as opposed to those who actually care about story analysis and whatnot. Which is why he's so popular. I personally go to a Gigguk video to have a laugh as opposed to learning something insightful about the anime/manga he's reviewing.
Same. I follow his stuff as an online personality. I go to very different people for in depth analysis. Also I think the problem with having a large audience is that one is basically forced to play with the mass appeal. I think smaller UA-camrs can afford to have more spicy takes.
Gigguk is good for having an entertaining overview of what is happening in the world of anime at the moment. I think this helps to understand some of the changes in his takes.
Nowadays, I'm so deep in that 90% of the anime being released and in effect the anime he covers, I have already read or heard of. But I still go to his videos because it's just fun to watch for the entertainment and jokes.
I think the morale of the story is no matter how popular someone is, or how much you like someone doesn't mean to take their thoughts/opinions as 100% fact. Super important to have your own thoughts and opinions especially the younger you are since we tend to be a lot more impressionable the younger we are. Good video break down 👍 you earned a sub! Interested to see what you cover next! 😁 (IMO Gigguk does Dragon Ball as a whole DIRTY! 🤣 ALSO I appreciate all the final fantasy 7 music! 🔥)
And that's why Trash Taste is the GOAT, cuz no matter how I love the boys, some of their food takes and anime takes snaps me back to reality from being an obsessed fans that would just dickride every opinion they have🤣
Nah bruh it sounds crazy to find Gigguk* funny out of literally anyone else💀I’ve never thought about him and funny at the same time before Edit: anime UA-camr glazers talking about “opinions exist” and literally crying about mine is funny asf💀🤣
Fax fax, that’s why I mainly used his user named ‘gigguk’ instead of saying garnt. Because i can say whatever I want about gigguk, but I don’t know who garnt is in reality
I feel like Gigguk is really more of an "explainer" than a "critic". He comments on peoples' perceptions and reactions to media, more than breaking down and critically analyzing the media itself.
Gigguk's videos are for people who haven't seen the show he is discussing. His reviews aren't meant to be in depth as they are an entry point to the series. I have picked up many shows from his videos and like the fact they don't break down every aspect of it.
i thought i was the only one who felt that way, he is the definition of safe and a lot of times contradicts his points. if you dont understand heres, 1 recent example, watch "the ultimate anime power up tier list". ive never seen a man contradict himself more than him in that video
I thought I was the only one too 😂😂. I know what u mean tho he do be contradicting himself a lot and I’ve seen only a little bit of his anime power up tier list. In case u haven’t seen my full video I have segment in where I talk about how he contradicts himself about bleach and demon slayer. As well as a little clip from the tier list ur talking bout Skip to about 24:54
exactly, this man outright says 1 of the criterias for a high score is if the character was able to defeat his opponent with the power up then contradicts this right after by saying that ichigos first bankai is an easy S tier. lets not even get started on the other ones. @@fumbuswumbus
@@z_zenith I just have to absolutely disagree with you 100%! No manga deserves criticism that aren't warranted and it gets it a ton that's usually way too exaggerated and some that aren't even remotely true from people who haven't seen the series. It's pretty expected from most shows but I think My Hero gets it way more than other Shonen and it doesn't feel deserved like for example the creator cannot write at all then a backhanded compliment that he can only draw as if he hasn't created fantastic villains and plot lines, the female cast is terrible (it isn't amazing or anything but they get genuinely amazing moments throughout the manga and some genuinely great characters), the MC is bland (and then they proceed to never touch on any of his character that's been touched on by the show, to then create a narrative that's usually untrue which range from he cries too much throughout the show, or there's nothing wrong with crying but he's not well written at all trying to take a intellectual take on it proceeding to say incorrect stuff, saying he's a Gary Stu (the worst one), him getting the extra "stuff" ruins his character plus comes outta when it's been foreshadowed, he never attempted to work at the beginning before the quirk, he only saved Bakugo at the beginning because he knew him). Some criticism I've seen over and over again are genuinely so bad I start to question if they've seen the show, so no the level of disrespect is way too much on social media especially twitter or UA-cam from people I don't think who have even seen the show at all.
@@tehcookievanilla1323 um so basically you're saying people overexaggerate faults with mha, by overexaggerating that you "disagree 100% with me". I mean I literally stated that I also believe that it gets too much disrespect?? I just don't think it's as shiny perfect as you seem to think.
@@z_zenith I never stated it's anywhere near perfect, I even pointed out some of it's fault in some aspects that aren't necessarily amazing. The gripe I have is beyond UA-cam, I don't think you should phrase it as some level of disrespect when talking about someone's work, like what level of disrespect is required that any other Shonen manga hasn't already committed especially the way I defined it as something that's unwarranted and undeserved, it's 100% disagreeable when the term "disrespectful" can colloquially be referred to as something that deserves to be insulted to or a lack or courtesy to some level, it's just backhanded and completely frustrating on social media websites when talking about such things, like I'm sure you can make criticisms that aren't veiled as disrespect when talking about entertainment.
As you said, Gigguk is a generalist, NOT a (shonen) expert. His videos are great for people who are new into anime and for people who want an overview over the entire anime landscape. In the end he is first and formost an entertainer and a youtuber. I don't watch his videos to understand DBZ or Bleach, I watch Gigguk because he is Gigguk. Dunkey does JRPG dirty, Anthony Fantano barely understands EDM, but they all bring their passion and personalities into almost every video they make and that's why people stick with them.
No, they bring haha reddit humor to their fanbase. Their views on things that they have NO good will on like Gigguk with shounen stories and Dunk with JRPGs should rightfully be ignored and laughed at.
@@JayceCH.They are entitled to their own opinions, even if they are shallow reddit bandwagoning or whatever. Not to say they can't be criticised but people get so overly emotional over these things.
@JayceCH. Laugh at them then. They are professional e-clowns. That's what they are here for. They are very aware that shonen and JRPG superfans get triggered by their lazy takes, and that's hilarious to them.
The vegeta disrespect is what gets me, when he's probably the most well written deuteragonist in shounen. His character evolves so much and ends so perfectly with the "you are number one" speech, it's crazy he narrows it down to nostalgia
I think the thing that summerises my issue with Gigguk is the same problem I have with Jeremy Jahns. The refusal to accept that they have become critics and trying to develop as critics. In the early days when he had a fun little beef with Digibro at Crunchyroll Expo he essentially expressed that he really isn't interested in developing his writing and prioritizes making fun videos. No wonder he is in 30s now and his scripted videos are still written like decent high school essays and is now doing so much podcast and streaming. He's not interested in analysis, variety-entertainment is always what has mattered to him most. I ultimately unsubbed after 10+ years when it became clear that he was abit of an anti-intellectual when it comes to art. I remember him during his Podtaku days saying that learning more about filmmaking and animation took away his enjoyment of the anime. Anime is just entertainment to him and it can't be more than that. This is why he pushes back on One Piece being political and is so easily swayed by the zeitgiest. He has the media literacy from 2010s UA-cam while enjoying the plausible denyability of saying he's just a dumb dude and not a critic while still acting like a critic.
I also remember him commenting back around 2013 when "Hours long anime analysis" were getting popular that all that stuff felt kinda pointless to him. No wonder I've fallen off so hard with his content nowadays.
“learning more about filmmaking and animation took away his enjoyment of the anime.” Yeah this is how you can tell he’s the most casual of casuals. It’s ironic because I did the same thing and it made me appreciate anime so much more as an art form. And if he’s actually trying to push back on One Piece being political (which it very much is) then that just proves how kind of disingenuous of an anime fan he is (at least in my mind).
You made some good points and respect for not insulting the guy personally but I think it's just at this point, people just watch Gigguk for him, I mean we all know why it's called Trash Taste 💀 the man really said all bread taste the same. And I don't think Garnt hold his opinions really that high? he's said it a few times in his streams and videos and personally any person can have the dumbest takes and I wouldn't care as long as they don't shove it at everyone's throat that they're gospel But overall, great video! enjoyed it.
It’s hard to explain what I mean when I say he hold his opinions high. I guess if u ask me I feel as though there is a bit of an arrogance in the way he talks about anime sometimes Like with the ign list or other stream’s He has certain takes where it’s not necessarily like “correct” per say but their generally accepted opinions so they’re kind of seen as common knowledge. Examples would be like “Berserk is a Masterpiece” “Hunter x Hunter is one of the greatest shonen manga ever made” “One piece has the best world building in manga” none of these takes should be considered absolutely correct, but in the anime community they are seen as common knowledge or like “yeh that makes sense”. It’s fine in regards to the examples I just listed because even if they’re considered the “normie” opinion they’re still totally fair and there’s a lot of merit in those takes. However this starts fall on his face when he starts saying misconceptions like “naruto is about hard work beats talent” or “goku is a bad father”. These takes are/were generally accepted within the anime community only for them to later get debunked/disproven He doesn’t hold his opinions to an insane standard necessarily but he generally plays it very safe meaning he kinda sees these opinions he’s saying as like a no brainer or “duh they’ll know what I mean” when in reality a lot of what he’s saying can come off as a bit ignorant if u ask me Sry if this is a length response but I hope this makes sense. I’m not always the best at explaining things but yeh 😂
@@fumbuswumbus No worries haha I get what you mean and to add to what you said honestly sometimes his opinions are bit inconsistent. But kudos to you for criticizing someone while not berrating their character, in this day and age of the internet that's extremely rare lol which is kinda sad.
@@punpun7164 yeah fs, that’s why I wanted to say gigguk instead of his real name because I don’t know garnt personally so I cant say anything about him as a person. I always try my best to as respectful as I can cus making mean spirited videos just ain’t fun 😞. thanks for watching my video I really appreciate it and I’m so close to 1k it’s incredible. Goodnight punpun ;)
gigguk's strength lies in his scripted, well thought out videos and not his live or camera oriented videos. if u pay attention we can all see that the way he talks in streams are always slow and boring and he always repeats his words, thats y i can' watch his stream videos without increasing playback speed. i watch all the prominent anime related youtbers like masked man, sage's rain, swaykage, supereye patch wolf and i like how they deep dive into their favorite stories and provide a different perspective about series but the appeal of gigguk is his sarcastic funny referential videos. he is almost like charlie(moistcritikal) , we watch his news videos, chase videos and tiktok videos for the metaphors and goofy commentary. gigguks seasonal videos are that example. No one makes seasonal videos like him . his videos are always entertaining. Even though i said all i this i agree with you , yeah he always plays safe and comes off as he is misrepresenting some anime
Exactly. This guy is just picking up out of context phrases Gigguk told about a few popular shounen shows and making it looks like Gigguk is problematic
I am actually surprised that Gigguk can watch so many anime and not get a burnout. I know it's his job but still. But I agree his video essayish type of content is the best. One of his best videos IMO is the one on Oshi no Ko manga. It's clear he is passionate about it.
it’s kinda very difficult to get burnt out, you forget that anime isn’t a genre, it’s a medium, people watch movies their whole lives and don’t get burnt out, now if they only watched marvel movies? that would be different, but there’s just so many unique options i don’t think anyone could get truly burnt out, this is coming from someone with a similar watch volume to gigguk
@@GOOOOOOOOOOOOODDAY Even if there is a huge diversity withing anime, its still one type of medium, and is still very much japanese. Even these two factors alone can make someone burnt out. Now add to thar pile that majority of animes are seasonal cannonfodder of whats trendy atm, and 99% it is guranteed burn out if you keep up with every new show
@@fumbuswumbus Actually! Gigguk absolutely needs to pause at Anime and starting delving into the other popular Japanese medium: Tokusatsu. That should help with his burnout.
Yeah. I notice that Garnt sometimes switches his takes according to his surroundings. Most of them if not all of them are Shounen takes. In Trash Taste or in his stream, he lives in a echo chamber as he is the most knowledgeable on the things he says. I think Garnt shines as a anituber when he scripts them in an essay style. I think he sometimes cherry picks certain talking points and runs with it. Which is 90% anituber. Can't fault him in that one. But I find it funny how this video is mostly about his shounen takes but he gets a lot of mixed opinions from older anime fans. In this case, I respect Gigguk cause he actually appreciates and highlights the things he loves in the newer anime sphere. Not like them old fans who are blinded by nostalgia of old shows. All I want him is to stay consistent with his take. Other than that, good video.
Thanks man fr, if u couldn’t already tell shonen is kind of my bread and butter 😂. I love seinen as well and all that but shonen is kinda my roots. That being said I have heard that ppl also say follows the popular opinion when it comes to other anime outside of shonen so feel free to let me know on that. I think gigguk is a very cool dude and he’s done a good job at staying out of trouble. I feel sometimes he tends to lean too hard on saying stuff like “it’s nostalgia talking” but I get it cus too many do let their nostalgia blind them.
@@fumbuswumbusIf we are talking about shows outside Shounen, I guess most of the beloved shows like Monster or any Urasawa Naoki works, Berserk, Vagabond, Vinland Saga or more shows generally has the same surface level praise. Gigguk says he likes all of these mentioned above and others. I don't see him giving his opinions or talking points cause he doesn't need to I guess. I would appreciate it but there are certain channel who do it amazingly, in depth and other talking points specially. Personally I think as a person who doesn't like gore and other dark stuff in Berserk, consider Berserk to be the best fiction/manga. It has problems in story structure as every arc seems to be set in same routine. Which isn't bad but it becomes obvious if you look hard enough. Also it undervalues some characters. I won't name due to spoilers. But it is best when it tackles the emotions, the struggles, the relief and somber topics in a grim world. I don't think any medium has even come close to replicate that feelings for me. It is my opinion which I don't expect Gigguk to say in depth. Cause people who like them generally don't watch Gigguk for that series. Gigguk does the same as well as an avid fan of them series. I love Isekai. I generally watch his channel for them. I love Mushoku Tensei. Even it is unconventional as an anime, I like that he has the same passion for that series. Recently he dropped a analysis or review of s2 of Mushoku Tensei. I think that video was one of his best. The editing, talking points, summarizing, in depth analysis was like a story telling. That's why Gigguk shines when he is writing about a video or scripting them. You can feel his passion.
@@alnahianabid8418 this comment is pure fact. I think it is probably just the result of being put on the spot where it’s difficult for him. He can carefully think about why he likes something if it’s scripted. Loved this comment fr
To be fair...generally most people I know do switch their opinions with time or based on surroundings. There are days where I adore Naurto and then there are days when its just another shounen. And ofc if I wanna prove my point I cherry pick, hell even as a lawyer I cherry pick XD I get your point, I just wanted to also highlight that not being consistent is far more humane than being consistent, the main reason we survived as a species is coz we adapt, and..well weirdly that applies ot everything.
I saw his tier list video today before I found yours.. And I am thankful that I wasn't the only person that felt like this. Watching him trash Dragon Ball Z and put it on par with Demon Slayer, and then using Dragon Ball Super to define his opinion of the Dragon Ball franchise as a whole was hard to watch. I also don't think he had much good to say about Naruto either, despite It also being another anime with some of the most polarizing moment's in anime history, but regardless, I feel like he's missing something us early 90s/early 2000s babies have, and that's understanding. I don't know why he wasn't giving some of these anime's points for being iconic/original or being the first to do what It does to shape what anime is today. Of course somebody that may have watched Dragon Ball Z 10-20 years ago is not the same way someone else would watch Dragon Ball Z today, but are we going to seriously ignore why us original fans loved and still love It till this day in the first place? I don't think we should rate anime based on how It aged. I think we should rate It for what it is and how much impact It had in It's time. There was definitely a point in time where some of these anime's were the best of It's time, so this disrespect for series like Dragon Ball Z not having a deep plot and having the best animation urks me, people always do this to dunk on old anime and I can't respect It. While It may not be as rewatchable now, that doesn't mean It wasn't a 10/10 on the majority of fan's first watch growing up. Nice video, I really liked and appreciated this perspective.
The quality of the video is really good for a relatively small channel like this... Hope you grow as soon as possible because your hard work really shines through 👍
"Objectivity does not exist, I told you a million times." - Digibro Turns out there could have actually been some merit to that forced beef they had, way back when.
The more I think about it, the more I realize that Geoff (Mother's Basement) is just a more in-depth Gigguk. The first similarity is their overall seasonal anime impressions. The only difference is that while Garnt's is more streamlined, Geoff makes two videos, each for what he thinks are good shows and those that he thinks are utter trash, hence the more in-depth Gigguk. I'd say they're still in the same tier of having a surface-level discussion regarding certain series, but you can expect Geoff to have multiple videos about a certain series like Chainsaw Man. He also analyzes and dissects anime openings, which gives him an excuse to talk more about a certain series. With my observation, do I think that Geoff is better than Garnt? Well, not necessarily. They have their strengths. I prefer the editing in Gigguk's videos, and it also feels like he's telling a story. As for Geoff, he presents better ideas, and it feels like a casual conversation, like talking to your friend or something. He also covers non-anime stuff. I like his Spider-Man videos.
Yesss, I like mothers basement from time to time despite getting a lot of hate. I always found it strange that ppl say Geoff is surface level when he seems to have some pretty concrete opinions (excluding some other videos like the Naruto one). Idk I might be wrong here idk. But I see a lot of parallels between mothers basement and gigguk
@@fumbuswumbusI think it’s because some Mothers Basement videos can be filled with misinformation (mostly stuff about animation production) or certain takes that are pretty bizarre.
Can def see that considering he watches pretty much all of the anime every season and gives a thoughtful explanation to each note worthy ones in his videos. That being said I still love garnt's content a lot more and simply just chatting with him in his streams talking about anime, etc.
I believe the guys said in Trash Taste that basically now YT has different people that especifically delve into specific things. So basically their content is "stale". Also , their popularity is... earned , but also weirdly priviledged. At least , it looks that way.
His videos on Black Clover definitely damaged the perception of it and turned the general community against the series. Calling it a copy of Naruto, bleach etc when most of the time it'll just be a common shonen trope.
Really good video. I'm a fan of Gigguk and watch a lot of Trash Taste and I've kinda felt the same way in regards to his takes on anime. You did a good job of putting those thoughts that a lot of us have had into words
Great video. I agree with your criticisms. This problems have been rampant in the anime community where they say surface level opinions and generalization on certain animes or genres. Thank you for the callout. Subscribed.
Honestly, his Naruto opinions were what tipped me off...that anime/manga gets so much undeserved hate by people who do not understand the meaning of Naruto (mainly Shippuden) and I think Gigguk is probably one of the reasons as to why Naruto nowadays gets disrespected so much. Obviously, there are other reasons. A big one are the cringey kids who did the Naruto Run in schools, but...I mean, is that really still relevant nowadays?
Gigguk has sailed that jjk hasn’t had its soul society level typ of arc. And hasn’t done more then bleach but he still put jjk above bleach on the tier list???
I watch gigguk regularly and some of the points you made i myself had problem with them and also many i realised when you pointed out, so thanks for that man And in the end i want only one and simple thing from garnt, is to hold his ground and opinions.
But who cares? The guy is clearly a generalised anime fan for the avarage anime watcher, he doesn't gain anything from going into a 30 minute in depth rant about a specific show and why he feels thst way, there's anime channels who already do that, he's successful for a reason, and it's not for doing rants defending his opinion
Good video. Some influencers do not realize how much of a role model function they have. Some of them are actively denying it, doesn't matter in what bubble they are, anime, games etc. everywhere the same thing happens. Ever since all 3 of the Trash Taste members moved to Japan, I felt like they have changed a lot. I can't say much about CDawg, but The Anime Man and Gigguk. You saw that The Anime Man doesn't really watch much anime these days and doesn't really care for newer stuff. I guess he's burned out. Well there is this joking people do about him, that The Anime Man does not watch Anime. For Gigguk as you said in the video he's going for the "safe opinions" and since the last few videos, what he's going to watch in the season, he sound more and more less enthusiastic. Forcing yourself to watch shows to have content not because you enjoy it, can cause burn out.
Oh absolutely. I stopped watching all three recently, due to feelings that had been creeping up on me for a while. I saw a comment somewhere else say that they're only "fairweather fans". They like stuff when its popular to like it, but when the content well dries up, they switch to insisting they never liked it to begin with.
100% lmfao. This guy couldn't even add a single clip from Garnt's actual analysis videos. These are all stream clips. His scripted videos is where he takes the opinions seriously and if you can find BS fluff in his scripted videos, then ig I will admit
I feel the same way but a bit differently about Super Eyepatch Wolf's anime analysis. He made so many articulate video consisting of different views, points and style of medium. But they can be wrong and seen in different light tho. I wasn't at the time when his Bleach video released. But I have heard from friends/fans etc, the video was slanderous for shallow and surface reasonings and stated it as a 'fact' with his biases. That's when I saw him in a different light. He was a bandwagon himself. That's why his response of that video felt very shallow to me. It was him saying that I know what I said are objectively wrong and most of my points can be rebuked by any Bleach fan with credible speaking but I am sorry not sorry. It was like a backhand slap when you are talking to someone. He seemed very pretentious. That's why I appreciate Gigguk. Someone of his status is honest. Yes, he sometimes backpaddles but he is honest.
Interesting I feel kind of the opposite. I feel that supereyepatch wolf comes off more honest than gigguk. I mentioned before that eyepatch’s video on bleach wasn’t the best (end of my video) but the fact that he made a new video refining his arguments and tried to reason with bleach fans showed he cared. When gigguk said himself that he clowns on bleach and it’s fans which I think is a lot less cool. Even if u don’t agree with eyepatches video at all is fine and there would be plenty to criticize from the perspective of a bleach fan, but I always appreciate that he really does have a lot to say
@@fumbuswumbus The thing is that that came off as a little insincere. He privated the first video but that was after it hit its view ceiling and wasn't earning anymore money so no loss to him. And he was basically forced to make the sequel at that point since the anime returning just shit all over everything he said in the first. And i'm sure he made bucks off the new one too. But he was very clearly proven wrong before that countless times. He could've conceded and corrected himself anytime. But he only made the second video to cash in on the hype return of the series after the news came out. And its not like the lack of quality of the original video was honest mistakes. He just had an agenda to push. He didn't even get right which part of the manga had the most sales (wasn't soul society). I'm not really sure why bleach gets the hate it does. Thinking it is trash or falls off is one thing but genuinely people don't use their brain when it comes to it. ProZD made tweets talking about how happy he was that it was ending and how much he hated it, etc, etc. Turns out he hasn't ever seen it. Anyway maybe certain content creators are more or less honest than others but even so called honest ones like eyepatch wolf become idiotic when it comes to bleach. Irrespective of whether its good or bad these people harbor some deep seated hatred of it beyond the writing and it seems illogical to me i don't understand. Penguinz0 intentionally didn't skip the filler even though he watched it after it was done (i believe he acknowledged he knew what filler was) then talked like the show physically damaged him. In terms of anime though the original bleach anime is an absolute insult to the manga. As a massive fan i rewatched bits recently. The hueco mundo section is borderline unwatchable.
@@tnuhenaj3752 He did the same in his Fear and Hunger video. He compared some cave monsters in the game to indigenous people and called it problematic. And if you thought otherwise you were part of the problem and he wouldnt discuss it further. Rightly people called him out on this, he tried to fight back, removed the part in the video, then never apologized and now pretends it never happened, removing all the comments that referred to his blatant racism.
I remember when Gigguk used to make Zero Punctuation style anime reviews. I also remember him having more unique takes during that time. I haven't watched Gigguk regularly for a long time but he always gave me the impression that he now panders to the largest audience rather than having more genuine takes.
28:48 The fact that he said he cried at the Spider scene in Demon Slayer had me laughing with tears 🤣 SPOILER ALERT I'm assuming he's talking about the scene while Tanjiro is flying thru the forest and slices the spider kid's head off. That was the absolute worst thing about the series imo 🤣 It built up so much hype with the backstory of the dad and fluid animation. But it was super anticlimatic when the demon kid put back his head, and some hashira stole the spotlight a few seconds after.
I have been a fan of gigguk for years now and most of my anime came from his recommendations. The problem is, I don't watch all of his videos, list, and with zero podcast. So the one thing I missed is him being contradictory to himself. But it doesn't stop me being a fan, because of many reasons. Thank you for making this video as it shows the side of gigguk that flew on everyone's head. Keep it up dude. New sub here.
Don't really mind his bad takes. In fact it's already a running joke and much more enjoyable that sometimes I have to disagree when I watch his reviews. And his switch ups are most likely to avoid certain immature fandoms.
I think as a Hunter x Hunter fan, nothing annoys me more than seeing big name youtubers put other Shonen down in order to prop up HxH, saying it's "Not like other Shonen", or "It deconstructs the Shonen Genre" when, as someone who has read HxH for the first time this year, I personally don't see it I love HxH, like, top 3 for me, but I do think that people don't know how to gas this series up properly, and it's a problem that I think needs to be addressed
FAXXXXX, love hunter x Hunter so much but I’m so glad people stopped saying “deconstruction” or “you need a higher intellect” type shit. Some ppl started to realize that there are complexities to other shonen series besides hxh 😭😭
@@fumbuswumbus It's only gonna make us look pretentious as fuck, and could give people the wrong impression about the series Togashi fans in the early 2010's were mad obnoxious, and it ruined YYH for me when I finally got to read it, I was so disappointed 😭
Before the Gigguk riders get here this is a very good and informative video. While I really like Gigguk and his content I can’t deny dude has his flaws in how he approaches anime. Great video man keep up the great work!
I think what is ironic with these takes is that it's your opinion just like him, and of course, like him, you have many flaws in your opinions. But at the end of the day, you make an opinion because you believe you are 100% right. And that opinion is based on how you personally feel. Interesting video for sure. Just find it strange to focus on someone's "bad" opinions solely because they don't take about shows all the time. His channel has never been an hour long analytic video over a certain arc. Also, his complaint about making popular and safe opinions doesn't mean he doesn't have valid opinions. Like you hear those statements all the time because a lot of people came to the same conclusion, and just because you have a more unique take doesn't make you more right or more valid. But hey, at the end of the day, this is just my opinion on the matter!
I don’t have much to add but after seeing the video I have to agree with a lot of what you said. I feel like Gigguk has been less serious about the anime scene in recent. I watched a ton of trash taste and the three of the members last year and I was entertained. Being entertained does not correlate to gaining anything very substantial, I watched gigguk frequently but off the top of my head I don’t really remember anything he said that stuck with me. While I watched your video I kinda realized why I stopped watching Gigguk as much, I just felt that he and the taste boys have built themselves up like an episodic cartoon. I tried watching the latest trash taste episode after a few months of neglect but I think becoming big has made them small in a sense. I’m not discrediting their achievements but they feel static; much like characters in comedy in a 9:00pm weekday time slot. In Gigguk’s case it feels like he’s disinterested in anime, or what I should say is that he doesn’t have the time for anime. As Gigguk and trash taste have become more popular I’m guessing his time to commit to anime has shrunk. It’s perfectly fine that this has happened and I’m glad he’s going places but it’s like when I peaked at smash bros, at one point I knew everything there was to know about smash and I was on the top of my game but then life did it’s thing and I had to do other things. Smash shelved and while I come back to it from time to time it’s not with the same commitment. What did I say? I have no idea but I think that Gigguk has drifted from the space and has become essentially the Mr Beast of anitube. (Don’t ask for the details of what that entails, I’m not 100% sure myself). It’s like a shadow of Gigguk remains as the man himself moves on to other things.
Timestamps: Context: 0:00 Video Starts: 3:07 The Main Problem: 9:07 Doesn’t Understand One Piece: 12:15 Doesn’t Understand Naruto: 15:28 Slanders DBZ: 18:08 Switches up on Bleach 24:54 Can’t make up his mind on Demon Slayer 28:19 Gigguk As a Critic: 30:55 Manga Vs. Anime 38:06 Conclusion 43:19 How I think he can improve: 47:07
thanks for making this video. I specially enjoyed your segment on Gigguk's Dragon Ball slander. Since it says everything that needs to be said. he gives criticism without substance. He doesn't give a reason as to why Dragon Ball is mid. He just says that it is, and we can't accept that as valid. I think Dragon Ball is great and I think that Son Goku who is someone that doesn't change or go through a character arc throughout the series, is still one of the most well written characters in manga. Goku doesn't change but he changes the world and characters around him. and he drags the story forward. Most of Dragon Ball's arcs happen because of Goku and his decisions. Not to mention that the fights don't feel as part of the story. Instead the fight themselves feel like a story in on itself. With their own plot, story beats and drama. A lot of the things that Dragon Ball did are still unique to Dragon Ball. For example the timeframe of the story and each arc being set in a different part of the protagonist's life (the manga spans roughly 40 years of Goku's life). Which was done really well since most fans enjoyed watching Goku grow up, get married, raise his sons, chill with his granddaughter, see his circle of friends grow while losing some friends, etc... It's all a part of the story. And most battle shonens don't offer this kind of story. this is praise is in addition to what you said in the video. So I disagree with Gigguk's take that Dragon Ball is mid, and I gave my reasons as to why it's great (in addition to the reasons you gave in the video). Gigguk however doesn't give his reason as to why it's mid. He just says it's nostalgia and that it didn't age well. Which is criticism without substance. That's the main point about Gigguk. Besides if his criticism is true then why isn't there nostalgia for Dragon Ball's competitor in shonen jump during that era? Saint Seiya.? Dragon Ball became popular around the world because it was good. And it continues to remain popular because it aged well. and I can confirm this because I very recently (a few months ago) watched DB&DBKai. The characters, world and story aged like fine wine. It's just the filler that is mixed with the canon episodes and the old animation from the 80s and 90s that didn't age well imo. So as a series Dragon Ball is great. Saint Seiya is the one that didn't age well in my opinion. Saint Seiya's very core theme of friendship was done in so many other battle shonens and they implemented it much better than Saint Seiya did. If we're going to be honest with ourselves we'd say it's Saint Seiya that didn't age well or is still liked because of nostalgia. instead of slandering DB. I also like the Naruto segment in your video. He also says "some of the other characters" or "some other anime should be on this list". Implying something else should be there. But he never gives a suggestion to what should be there. I honestly think your whole video was well made and well put together. It was a great video and that's probably why it has a total of 223 likes compared 4 dislikes. Great job fumbus.
his db takes... the "didnt age well" and "too dragged out" are far from true, even if he doesnt like the og animation z got remade where the too drag out isnt a thing (it was filler) and him saying it wasnt influencial is crazy, the manga wich he calls outdated still has far better art than multiple new gen manga the og db was gag his humour might not be like the og manga but it isnt outdated in any way the z part on the other hand is battle shonen not gag its not dragged out or anything i read most of it recently its not bad or "nostalgia carried" either it was really good btw i skipped the naruto takes but whatever takes he has said about it is invalid he made a video with the anime man where they were asked questions about anime and many of them were about naruto and they were basic questions and they didnt know shit about it they could barely answer some of them (i dont remember wich video it was bout it was in one of the anime man's channel)
While I don't agree with some things in the video, I'll agree 100% that I hate how the whole Trash Taste team keep saying "DBZ is bad because the fanbase is toxic"
Gigguk isn't bad per se, as someone who used to consume his content a lot, but I think his takes on things he doesn't care about gets annoying. I just don't like how he keeps trash talking Love Live whenever he gets the chance to talk about it. (or maybe idol genre or the industry in general) He made jokes about how idol fans can be toxic, while anime community in general is like that. Idk, I like him enough to still support him, but his takes does irks me at times. It's sad bc I think he can be open-minded enough, when he tries.
He ain’t bad, but man his takes can really bother me sometimes. Also I know that this video is mostly about the big shonen series but I’ve also been informed the points I made applies to other anime like fate and idol series like u mentioned
@16:05 Yeah just like the time he singlehandedly killed the chances of golden kamuy to become slightly more acknowledged just by talking about the cgi bears (yes i am resentful)
I like this kind of videos. Present the evidence from multiple channel and actually putting work on a topic that is most likely won't be remembered for too long. I enjoyed the video till the end and I also have some disagreeing point. Nevertheless, great video for over something to get out of your chest, I respect it
First of as a Gigguk follower who's been watching him for a while I 100% agree with you. I felt the same way when he was doing the tierlist which I can see you talk about too! I'm glad you were able to vocalise what I was concerned about and bring light to them. Also props to you for not sounding like you're just dunking on him.
His taste is mid. Seriously bland. And he's too privileged. Even worse, he parades his privilege and pretends he doesn't know it. Typical of a bullied person (or at least he thought he is) and finally gains some power. That's it.
I view his videos like Cinema Sins where the main point isn't to be insightful, the idea is to be entertaining (even though I don't personally enjoy either). He just sort of parrots whatever opinion is popular and works comedy into the videos to make them distinct.
Regardless of the safeness of his opinions and memory failures as a whole, Gigguk has forever won my subscription with his glowing-ish review of the Index franchise, which basically remarked on most of the things I've been trying to tell people for years that most couldn't seem to understand when I tried to explain it. #spreadtheholygospel
THANK YOU FOR THE DRAGON BALL SECTION. I get so sad when people talk about dragon ball like the only thing that’s good about it is what it’s done for other anime. There’s a reason it’s one of the most popular anime series not only in Japan, but in the world
I think what this comes down to is how a lot of Gigguks opinions are just lazy. Like, you're allowed to think that dragonball hasn't aged well, or that bleach fell off, or whatever, but at the end of the day the reason that I'm going to your youtube channel is beause I want to actually hear you say something interesting. It's not even that these opinions are wrong, I'm of the opinion that there isn't really such a thing as a "wrong" opinion, it's just that I can find all of them being regurgitated by randos on twitter. Why should I be listening to you if you aren't bringing anything new or interesting to the table.
For me, the biggest problem with all of this is calling these people "influencers". We're saying that these people have the power to make you like or hate something...........seriously? To me, this highlights the mediocrity of people who allow themselves to be carried away by people who give "their opinion" about something.
right? gigguk just makes fun videos to entertain, i agree with some of his stuff and i disagree with some of his stuff. whatever he says, ill like somthing based on my own feelings in the matter so who cares if the guy is just saying random shit. this video criticised gigguk using clips where he says something is good and somthing is bad, like is he not allowed so say anything without giving a 30 min reason why he likes it or not
yeah, whoever came up with the whole "influencer" title is just stupid tbh. it wasn't the youtubers and instagramers who came up with it, i think it was some douche who writes articles.
Some anime UA-camrs has influenced me to watch some anime. When I don't like an anime and don't know how to properly communicate what I don't like about it anime analysis videos come in handy. They don't tell me what to think, more like help me understand why I feel the way I do.
@@animec-dramaskpop6362 you have to decide for yourself, not others. I disagree with 70% of these UA-camrs, most of the time they are bureaucratic comments or the use of clichéd language "the construction of this story doesn't work well..." and other more repetitive things.
I've kind of stopped watching most anitubers because a lot of anime I like seems to be passed over or shit on by the big guys with nothing more added besides it being "trash" or "not the best in its genre." I started to feel like I was somehow wrong for having my own opinions. I understand of course that everyone has different tastes and that I really shouldn't take it too seriously, but after a while you start to feel icky when the anituber echo-chamber takes effect.
Very relatable, I kinda dislike when the things I like get treated as nothing of worth or a sense of backhandedness, I personally just didn't want to watch anymore
sometimes with anime I feel everytime anime is mentionned someone basically goes on to say "oh but it isnt a masterpiece like x" "anime aint like it was in the 90s". People forget that not everything needs to be flawless masterpieces and that in the 90s people had a smaller sample size for shows you would see and we didnt get the utter trash that might have been produced back then unlike now where it's so easy to consume those shows.
Great video m8 and i hope it gets popular, found myself agreeing with many of the things you pointed out and i found many of the same problems you pointed out with chibireviews. I can't stand when individuals can't hold their ground
Most people are afraid of pissing off mainstream fans. Meanwhile I always liked how Sydney always stayed true to herself embracing stuff even when its cringe. Cuz thats a legit one
well, for me ive learned that reaching 100% objectivity in arts and literature its impossible. What i like not necessarily will be liked by other ppl, what i interpret from a series maybe ppl will interpret it different. The opinion i get might differ from others. With that conclusion, i dont really pursue ppl opinions on anime, its true that i do check the ratings to see what the general consensus is, but if i see something that interests me im still going to watch even if the ratings are not that good. Ive seen gigguk reviews but its not like i hold them in high esteem, its not like if gigguk tells me x anime is mid im not going to watch it, or the other way around. I like seeing it cuz he is a good narrator and funny guy, same with joey and connor. We gotta accept ppl see and form their own opinions on something that once again its not math, which objectively is 2+2=4
Tbh I fully agree with what you're saying. I think Garnt's points are mostly all surface level unless one of his videos is specifically to do with one anime like his aot video when season 3 ended. But aside from that I find myself more and more disagreeing with a lot of his points like that kakashi one caught me so so off guard and same with the one piece one about it being political. Having said that I kinda feel like I see where he's coming from in the sense of I've had similar opinions about a show like dbz not being as good as people say it is. But for the most part that is cos of online influence. Because you haven't watched these shows in so long you can remember the overarching story but not what actually made it so good. Therefore, the only thing you have to go off is what people are saying online which obviously tends to be the worst thing you could do. But when you have a certain idea of a show ingrained into you when you haven't seen it in a LONG time, it kinda leads to just superficial and innaccurate points. I would argue if Gigguk does take the time to invest himself in a show then he actually does make good points like with some of the seasonal anime. But its clear he doesn't know what he's talking about when he's on about shows he hasn't watched in YEARS. I also think the switching up on anime take is probably valid but I see that more as a comedic thing which he leans more into than like ACTUALLY switching up. Like yes the joke kinda works but it is the truth but.. (i really dont know im literally just giving a pass for him being funny which is prolly wrong and im sorry but also not? I realise im prolly part of the problem) I would love him to see this video and take some of these ideas on board because honestly ye I would like more depth to his reasoning in tierlist videos. I kinda gave him an excuse of oh there's so many anime to tierlist, obviously he only has time just to say a couple sentences. But it would like give me a better idea as to what he's thinking. Also, I dont think it's bad to have surface level takes on a show? I just kind of like the idea we have someone in the community who is kind of a personification of the anime community almost. Like I think it's part of the charm that he's not a great critic but regardless is stating an opinion even if it could be debunked with a slightly closer look at the anime. Again i really do think this is mainly on shounen shows and more specifically shows that he would have watched ages ago. I still do think he has a lot of meaningful things to say in more anime specific videos but ye. ANYWAYS this was a very interesting video to watch and, even though I'm watching it biased more toward Gigguk, I still think it was a good idk analysis? or just wtv genre this is its a great video and funny .I would love to see more ( i will check out your other vids). Keep it up man. I hope you or Garnt dont get any hate for this man.
I agree with everything u just said this was a well put together comment for sure. I like how gigguk feels kind of like epicenter of anime discussion but of course that can lead to some wacky takes. I’m sure gigguk won’t get mad I’m sure he’ll understand. On the trash taste podcast he had to deal with a neighbor curse at him for recording to loud and remained calm. If he can handle that I’m sure one little video won’t hurt him. I just hope he doesn’t try to mock me or something on live and actually take the video seriously. That would be pretty low
Imma be honest i agree with his mha fight takes they do feel more dull than other shonen specifically more so in the beginning and it does feel way more character based Also it makes sense that he likes naruto more than bleach i feel like if you really like a show you can find more critism at least thats how it is for me
In Gigguks defense, a lot of Bleach trash talkers went quiet when the anime was announced and even more so when it was straight fire. I feel it was just a popular thing to kick Bleach because the anime got canceled and manga was forced to wrap.Then there was a ripple effect where people would just parrot it without actually reading or watching Bleach.
OMG, ty for the comment. I hate Bleach haters, cause they always say the dumbest arguments on why Bleach is bad like "The anime got cancelled" or "It has plot armour" and etc. 1st of all the Bleach anime wasn't cancelled, it was paused, cause they didn't want to make more filler and they want to finish other projects 1st and most power ups that Ichigo got were either explained, foreshadowed or they showed how he got it 💀. Bleach has its flaws, it isn't a 10/10 masterpiece, but other seriess also have many problems like when in Naruto they introduced overpower God characters out of nowhere just to kill of Madara, a rushed ending and etc. I'm just glad that Bleach is getting the love that it deserves recently.
You must not've been around back when Bleach was being serialized if you think that the Bleach hate only started in the finale/final arc. Most of the criticisms/memes (like Kubo being too lazy to draw backgrounds, nothing happening in a chapter, being able to read a chapter in 10 seconds, the infamous "THE HEART" page) all started in the Hueco Mundo arc and lasted all the way to the end.
I went "quiet" because I just said, "I'm not going to watch this and don't give a fuck as Bleach fanboys are annoying." So, no, it's not "Straight fire" it is just we are doing something better with our time.
Agree with you on a lot of these points - he’s REALLY quick to nitpick the mainstream battle shonens while gassing up weirdass incest shows Shoutout to Rosie Knight at IGN too, hope she’s doing alright after getting put on blast publicly by a massive youtuber TWICE and hope she hasn’t been too emotionally destroyed by the targeted harassment.
putting one piece as the number one due to zeitgeist is also inherently a middle finger not just to the other series in the same genre but moreso to one piece itself because the ranking is given for the popularity of the work rather than anything the work did itself
I've watched probably hundreds of anime and read even more manga. Dragon Ball is still my favorite series. I understand it's not perfect, but every year I actually appreciate the story more and giving a reread there are many themes that non dragon Ball fans don't even notice.
The English dub did irreversible damage to the community. It completely changed the script and characters that led to people like Gigguk who have only seen the dub as a kid/teen into thinking the show and characters are something they aren't
So gigguks problem, is that there isn’t enough of him. And you want him to post more content about specific things. Rather than summarizing his opinions.
Initially, I thought it would be a hate video, but it was surprisingly wholesome and funny. Your UA-cam channel has been subscribed to instantly. The Dragon Ball franchise is still goated even without the nostalgic talking fr fr
I don’t know how to explain it but this video really made feel like I should just let loose on the things I think are “too weird” or “trying to hard” both with the my opinions and the way I go about life ngl Iv always been one of those people that switches up on a show or video game when I see that other people don’t like it as much or like it a lot like with one piece for example me personally Iv always thought to myself I don’t think one piece is significantly better than naruto or most other shonen Iv always just seen it as a really good one but when I started looking more into it online and seeing that everyone hold it to such a high standard and praises it as being the gold standard of shonen I guess subconsciously I kinda adapted the same mindset of “I guess this means I also have to think one piece is the greatest shonen” and I did lol but this video especially the part U were talking about how it’s ok to think what u think about a piece of media because it’s art at the end of the day and art is subjective and I gotta say I really appreciate and respect people like you for being so damn humble and true to urself it’s something Iv really been struggling with for a while now. obviously I’m still gonna have doubts on whether I should be enjoying something this much just because everyone says it’s good or I really hate this thing but everyone seems to like it so I guess I like it now this video didn’t magically just change the way I think but it’s definitely a step and I just wanted to thank you for that. Thanks for attending my yap session.
Your welcome man, I’m happy u got something positive from the video and I’m great appreciate ur honesty. Keep being epic 👌👌 Thank u for inviting me to ur yap session 😎
A big problem I have with reviewers are when they review something and they don't like it not because it's bad but because they just don't like that type of show/movie/game. There's a big difference between opinions and facts. If you hate a show/movie/game that's fine but just don't act like what you're saying is fact or the obvious truth.
I like when ppl explain their taste first and then through that lens they review something. People's taste should give you an idea of who they are. Everyone has someone they know that they can say, "oh my friend would love this media because it has X and they love it." So I'm ok with someone saying something that I like is bad if they can explain why. To this day, I have no idea what kind of media Gigguk likes.
You know what’s crazy is that there is no way to review any media in a way that everyone will agree with he thinks his style works others think his style works but not everyone but I do like this video for bringing up their gripes without bringing down the one he is criticizing
it doesn't matter how much people agree with you, what matters is the truth, even if everyone is against you the pursuit of the truth is more important than appeasing others
UPDATE:
Hi just wanna say thanks a lot for getting this video to almost 40k views and getting my channel to 1k subs. I really appreciate it and I’m so happy to see so many of you enjoyed the video. That being said there is also a number of you that have given very constructive criticism and ur own thoughts on that matter which is good. This video should be sparking discussion and allowing people to think critically. Imma take the time to address some common things I’ve been getting in my comments
Authority:
One of the most commons things I hear is that gigguk has never called himself an authority figure and we shouldn’t really take his opinions all that serious. I totally get that tbh and it was always hard for me to put into words what I mean by saying “he has an authority” cus you kinda have to see it to believe it i guess. I just feel when he talks about certain anime there’s kind of an arrogance to his tone or this sarcastic nature he has that gives me the impression he thinks he knows what he’s talking about. I didn’t wanna out that in the video because I feel that would sound too much like I’m trying to attack gigguk as a person because he shouldn’t have to change his tone of voice for my sake.
I think in general He has certain takes where it’s not necessarily like “correct” per se but they’re generally accepted opinions so they’re kind of seen as common knowledge. Examples would be like “Berserk is a Masterpiece” “Hunter x Hunter is one of the greatest shonen manga ever made” “One piece has the best world building in manga” none of these takes should be considered absolutely 100% fact, but in the anime community they are seen as common knowledge or like “yeh that makes sense”. It’s fine in regards to the examples I just listed because even if they’re considered the “normie” opinion they’re still totally fair and there’s a lot of merit in those takes. However this starts to fall on his face a bit when he starts saying stuff like “naruto is about hard work beats talents” or “goku is a bad father” which is stuff that was generally accepted only to later be debunked or disproven.
So it’s not necessarily that gigguk thinks he has an authority that was bad wording on my part. I think it’s more so that he just knows that these are very generally accepted opinions so it’s easy for him to just throw them out there and be like “they’ll know what I’m talking about” when in reality he starts to seem more ignorant once you look in a bit more.
The issue was never that gigguk doesn’t like x show or that he doesn’t understand the complexities of x show. The issue is that he seems to just be going off of the popular opinions just for the sake of being in the good graces of the community rather than coming to his own conclusions.
I could care less if gigguk doesn’t like or care for dbz or naruto or whatever show that was never the point. I just think if ur gonna be making strong claims for or against these series, you should give a good reason as to why or don’t talk about them at all. I mean I don’t know maybe these are his opinions and they all just happen to fall under the popular opinions. But from everything I’ve seen of him whether that be on video, podcast or stream…the harder it is for me to think these are his real opinions.
Gigguk is not a critic…or at least not necessarily:
It was always difficult to pin point whether I should call gigguk a critic, analyzer or just an entertainer since from my experience he seems to be doing all 3. He’s obviously not making super eyepatch wolf style analysis videos, but he has talked about critically thinking or analyzation in his videos *when he was talking about nakeyjakey on trash taste*, but his videos are still primarily comedy based.
Idk exactly what to label him but I’ll say this…no matter what gigguk videos are still predicated on anime discussion. Even if it’s mainly comedic or surface level he still talks about whether a show is good/bad/worth your time/a masterpiece you get the jist. He is still trying to make a point or some type of critque on a show to some degree.
what I’ve noticed is that whether ppl liked or disliked my video everyone collectively agreed that they don’t watch his videos for his opinions at all and just for his comedy. Imma be honest, I think that in it self is not really a good thing. Don’t get me wrong your goal as a content creator should be to entertain that was my top priority with my video was to first be an entertaining video and second be a somewhat informative video. You need to have a balance of both so here’s what I’ll say
If you’re making videos/streams/whatever predicated on anime discussion or talking about your opinions on an anime…but nobody cares about what you have to say about an anime is that really a good thing?
Let me know what you guys think but I hope this clarifies some things. ✌️✌️✌️
Apologies for any grammar mistakes
And he’s not even funny, that’s crazy fr
@@Angel-Otk I'm sorry but the majority doesn't think so at the slightest. it's alright not everyone can recieve the content like others.
@@cluster4583 yeah on a video directed towards people who know who Gigguk is/ AKA: his fans, who would’ve thought?!?!🤯🤯oh right, it’s common sense
Gigguk always has been a jack of all trades and a master of none; and through his years on UA-cam he's skewed more towards different areas at different points in time
Hence it's almost natural that he's not the best analyst or critic and misses the deeper nuances of shows as well as only being familiar with the surface level opinions of most shows
He's currently skewing far more towards entertainer than anything else and if it's making him money and happiness, then more power to him. He shouldn't have to change for us after all
@@ilicktrains8304 fax, but I will say tho…his aot vid was pretty damn good 👍 I actually like hearing him talk about aot
I just believe that someone being popular doesn't make them automatically right about everything they review.
Yeh exactly 👍👍
nobody has that kind of power, everyone has their opinions.
@@DrowsyYo as long as there are meatriders there will be people who’s words are taken as fact without a moment of hesitation
that doesn’t stop their opinion or critique from having a big impact on the community, and that’s where most people have a problem because being popular means you have INFLUENCE
Bruh they are making more impact in anime culture and making more ppl watch anime, i myself am watching anime because of him and his videos, totally deserved subs and audience
I love Gigguk but I never really consider him a proper critic in the traditional sense. He is more of an entertainer than an actual critic. I don't take him that seriously and I don't think even Gigguk does either. The reason is why he's so popular is because he caters to the normie anime fans as opposed to those who actually care about story analysis and whatnot. Which is why he's so popular. I personally go to a Gigguk video to have a laugh as opposed to learning something insightful about the anime/manga he's reviewing.
Same. I follow his stuff as an online personality. I go to very different people for in depth analysis.
Also I think the problem with having a large audience is that one is basically forced to play with the mass appeal. I think smaller UA-camrs can afford to have more spicy takes.
Gigguk is good for having an entertaining overview of what is happening in the world of anime at the moment. I think this helps to understand some of the changes in his takes.
Scamboli does the gigguk thing better than gigguk
Nowadays, I'm so deep in that 90% of the anime being released and in effect the anime he covers, I have already read or heard of. But I still go to his videos because it's just fun to watch for the entertainment and jokes.
@@vitaminwater9662 agreed, Scamboli is also way funnier in my opinion.
I think the morale of the story is no matter how popular someone is, or how much you like someone doesn't mean to take their thoughts/opinions as 100% fact. Super important to have your own thoughts and opinions especially the younger you are since we tend to be a lot more impressionable the younger we are. Good video break down 👍 you earned a sub! Interested to see what you cover next! 😁 (IMO Gigguk does Dragon Ball as a whole DIRTY! 🤣 ALSO I appreciate all the final fantasy 7 music! 🔥)
Thank you for the sub good sir ✊✊
FACTS ONFG.
That's such a deep revelation if you're like 12.
@@poppers7317 How that giga pp taste?
And that's why Trash Taste is the GOAT, cuz no matter how I love the boys, some of their food takes and anime takes snaps me back to reality from being an obsessed fans that would just dickride every opinion they have🤣
I don't think any of gigguk's fans care if his opinions are always good, or even mostly good. we love his channel because he is funny as hell.
fair enough 👍
Nah bruh it sounds crazy to find Gigguk* funny out of literally anyone else💀I’ve never thought about him and funny at the same time before
Edit: anime UA-camr glazers talking about “opinions exist” and literally crying about mine is funny asf💀🤣
@@Angel-Otkyeah there is something called 'personal opinions'
@@Angel-OtkConsidering his videos get 1M-2M views, the idea that people enjoy his comedy hardly seems controversial.
@@umbraemilitos enjoy his CONTENT, I wouldn’t say anyone actually laughs though🤣
me watching an entire video like this in one sitting is crazy. had the same thoughts as you. hope this blows up.
Thank u man I really appreciate it 🙏🙏🙏
good video. feel like we should be able to criticize people without condemning them as a person more often.
Fax fax, that’s why I mainly used his user named ‘gigguk’ instead of saying garnt. Because i can say whatever I want about gigguk, but I don’t know who garnt is in reality
@@fumbuswumbus yeah that’s mature way of thinking - good video and u give ur points respectfully so I really enjoyed it
can't do that now days the world is fucked lol
Respect
I feel like Gigguk is really more of an "explainer" than a "critic". He comments on peoples' perceptions and reactions to media, more than breaking down and critically analyzing the media itself.
Did 76 and counting people even watch the video? Because the main problem is that he DOESNT explain shit 😅
@@JayceCH. He doesn't need to really
@@JayceCH. He is really entertaining and boy I like his videos and I don't go there for recommendations
@@Yo-ru3vf Bruh! Bedrock-low standards of entertainment. :)
@@ihavenoson3384 keep bitching
Gigguk's videos are for people who haven't seen the show he is discussing. His reviews aren't meant to be in depth as they are an entry point to the series. I have picked up many shows from his videos and like the fact they don't break down every aspect of it.
i thought i was the only one who felt that way, he is the definition of safe and a lot of times contradicts his points. if you dont understand heres, 1 recent example, watch "the ultimate anime power up tier list". ive never seen a man contradict himself more than him in that video
I thought I was the only one too 😂😂. I know what u mean tho he do be contradicting himself a lot and I’ve seen only a little bit of his anime power up tier list.
In case u haven’t seen my full video I have segment in where I talk about how he contradicts himself about bleach and demon slayer. As well as a little clip from the tier list ur talking bout
Skip to about 24:54
exactly, this man outright says 1 of the criterias for a high score is if the character was able to defeat his opponent with the power up then contradicts this right after by saying that ichigos first bankai is an easy S tier. lets not even get started on the other ones.
@@fumbuswumbus
MHA doesn’t deserve this level of disrespect from Gigguk 😭
As a pretty diehard MHA fan, it definitely deserves some level of disrespect. But definitely not as much as anitube throws at it.
@@z_zenith
I just have to absolutely disagree with you 100%! No manga deserves criticism that aren't warranted and it gets it a ton that's usually way too exaggerated and some that aren't even remotely true from people who haven't seen the series. It's pretty expected from most shows but I think My Hero gets it way more than other Shonen and it doesn't feel deserved like for example the creator cannot write at all then a backhanded compliment that he can only draw as if he hasn't created fantastic villains and plot lines, the female cast is terrible (it isn't amazing or anything but they get genuinely amazing moments throughout the manga and some genuinely great characters), the MC is bland (and then they proceed to never touch on any of his character that's been touched on by the show, to then create a narrative that's usually untrue which range from he cries too much throughout the show, or there's nothing wrong with crying but he's not well written at all trying to take a intellectual take on it proceeding to say incorrect stuff, saying he's a Gary Stu (the worst one), him getting the extra "stuff" ruins his character plus comes outta when it's been foreshadowed, he never attempted to work at the beginning before the quirk, he only saved Bakugo at the beginning because he knew him). Some criticism I've seen over and over again are genuinely so bad I start to question if they've seen the show, so no the level of disrespect is way too much on social media especially twitter or UA-cam from people I don't think who have even seen the show at all.
@@tehcookievanilla1323 um so basically you're saying people overexaggerate faults with mha, by overexaggerating that you "disagree 100% with me".
I mean I literally stated that I also believe that it gets too much disrespect?? I just don't think it's as shiny perfect as you seem to think.
@@z_zenith
I never stated it's anywhere near perfect, I even pointed out some of it's fault in some aspects that aren't necessarily amazing.
The gripe I have is beyond UA-cam, I don't think you should phrase it as some level of disrespect when talking about someone's work, like what level of disrespect is required that any other Shonen manga hasn't already committed especially the way I defined it as something that's unwarranted and undeserved, it's 100% disagreeable when the term "disrespectful" can colloquially be referred to as something that deserves to be insulted to or a lack or courtesy to some level, it's just backhanded and completely frustrating on social media websites when talking about such things, like I'm sure you can make criticisms that aren't veiled as disrespect when talking about entertainment.
The way they slander the show in trash taste breaks my heart but I think Gigguk somehow appreciates the show then the other two
Gigguk is the definition of acting smart and superior but everything he says is just super casual
Factsss
As you said, Gigguk is a generalist, NOT a (shonen) expert. His videos are great for people who are new into anime and for people who want an overview over the entire anime landscape.
In the end he is first and formost an entertainer and a youtuber. I don't watch his videos to understand DBZ or Bleach, I watch Gigguk because he is Gigguk. Dunkey does JRPG dirty, Anthony Fantano barely understands EDM, but they all bring their passion and personalities into almost every video they make and that's why people stick with them.
No, they bring haha reddit humor to their fanbase. Their views on things that they have NO good will on like Gigguk with shounen stories and Dunk with JRPGs should rightfully be ignored and laughed at.
@@JayceCH.They are entitled to their own opinions, even if they are shallow reddit bandwagoning or whatever. Not to say they can't be criticised but people get so overly emotional over these things.
@JayceCH. Laugh at them then. They are professional e-clowns. That's what they are here for.
They are very aware that shonen and JRPG superfans get triggered by their lazy takes, and that's hilarious to them.
Saying one piece is not political might just be the worst take i've ever seen.
I don't think Gigguk would call himself a critic and I doubt his fans would either.
This video was just recommended by UA-cam and I thoroughly enjoyed it! Keep it up, I really appreciated your work :)
Thanks I’m happy u enjoyed it
Godly vid! Definitely going to my “anime essay” playlist
As a long time bleach enjoyer im so glad the show is getting the love it fineally deserves!
The vegeta disrespect is what gets me, when he's probably the most well written deuteragonist in shounen. His character evolves so much and ends so perfectly with the "you are number one" speech, it's crazy he narrows it down to nostalgia
I think the thing that summerises my issue with Gigguk is the same problem I have with Jeremy Jahns. The refusal to accept that they have become critics and trying to develop as critics. In the early days when he had a fun little beef with Digibro at Crunchyroll Expo he essentially expressed that he really isn't interested in developing his writing and prioritizes making fun videos. No wonder he is in 30s now and his scripted videos are still written like decent high school essays and is now doing so much podcast and streaming. He's not interested in analysis, variety-entertainment is always what has mattered to him most.
I ultimately unsubbed after 10+ years when it became clear that he was abit of an anti-intellectual when it comes to art. I remember him during his Podtaku days saying that learning more about filmmaking and animation took away his enjoyment of the anime. Anime is just entertainment to him and it can't be more than that. This is why he pushes back on One Piece being political and is so easily swayed by the zeitgiest. He has the media literacy from 2010s UA-cam while enjoying the plausible denyability of saying he's just a dumb dude and not a critic while still acting like a critic.
I also remember him commenting back around 2013 when "Hours long anime analysis" were getting popular that all that stuff felt kinda pointless to him. No wonder I've fallen off so hard with his content nowadays.
“learning more about filmmaking and animation took away his enjoyment of the anime.”
Yeah this is how you can tell he’s the most casual of casuals. It’s ironic because I did the same thing and it made me appreciate anime so much more as an art form. And if he’s actually trying to push back on One Piece being political (which it very much is) then that just proves how kind of disingenuous of an anime fan he is (at least in my mind).
You made some good points and respect for not insulting the guy personally but I think it's just at this point, people just watch Gigguk for him, I mean we all know why it's called Trash Taste 💀 the man really said all bread taste the same.
And I don't think Garnt hold his opinions really that high? he's said it a few times in his streams and videos and personally any person can have the dumbest takes and I wouldn't care as long as they don't shove it at everyone's throat that they're gospel
But overall, great video! enjoyed it.
It’s hard to explain what I mean when I say he hold his opinions high. I guess if u ask me I feel as though there is a bit of an arrogance in the way he talks about anime sometimes Like with the ign list or other stream’s
He has certain takes where it’s not necessarily like “correct” per say but their generally accepted opinions so they’re kind of seen as common knowledge. Examples would be like “Berserk is a Masterpiece” “Hunter x Hunter is one of the greatest shonen manga ever made” “One piece has the best world building in manga” none of these takes should be considered absolutely correct, but in the anime community they are seen as common knowledge or like “yeh that makes sense”. It’s fine in regards to the examples I just listed because even if they’re considered the “normie” opinion they’re still totally fair and there’s a lot of merit in those takes.
However this starts fall on his face when he starts saying misconceptions like “naruto is about hard work beats talent” or “goku is a bad father”. These takes are/were generally accepted within the anime community only for them to later get debunked/disproven
He doesn’t hold his opinions to an insane standard necessarily but he generally plays it very safe meaning he kinda sees these opinions he’s saying as like a no brainer or “duh they’ll know what I mean” when in reality a lot of what he’s saying can come off as a bit ignorant if u ask me
Sry if this is a length response but I hope this makes sense. I’m not always the best at explaining things but yeh 😂
@@fumbuswumbus No worries haha I get what you mean and to add to what you said honestly sometimes his opinions are bit inconsistent.
But kudos to you for criticizing someone while not berrating their character, in this day and age of the internet that's extremely rare lol which is kinda sad.
@@punpun7164 yeah fs, that’s why I wanted to say gigguk instead of his real name because I don’t know garnt personally so I cant say anything about him as a person. I always try my best to as respectful as I can cus making mean spirited videos just ain’t fun 😞. thanks for watching my video I really appreciate it and I’m so close to 1k it’s incredible.
Goodnight punpun ;)
@@fumbuswumbus ign list is shit
gigguk's strength lies in his scripted, well thought out videos and not his live or camera oriented videos. if u pay attention we can all see that the way he talks in streams are always slow and boring and he always repeats his words, thats y i can' watch his stream videos without increasing playback speed. i watch all the prominent anime related youtbers like masked man, sage's rain, swaykage, supereye patch wolf
and i like how they deep dive into their favorite stories and provide a different perspective about series but the appeal of gigguk is his sarcastic funny referential videos. he is almost like charlie(moistcritikal) , we watch his news videos, chase videos and tiktok videos for the metaphors and goofy commentary. gigguks seasonal videos are that example. No one makes seasonal videos like him . his videos are always entertaining. Even though i said all i this i agree with you , yeah he always plays safe and comes off as he is misrepresenting some anime
Exactly. This guy is just picking up out of context phrases Gigguk told about a few popular shounen shows and making it looks like Gigguk is problematic
Gigguk has some of the worst takes on anime, I get frustrated watching that dude from how oblivious he is.
I am actually surprised that Gigguk can watch so many anime and not get a burnout. I know it's his job but still. But I agree his video essayish type of content is the best. One of his best videos IMO is the one on Oshi no Ko manga. It's clear he is passionate about it.
Yeah thats pretty fair
it’s kinda very difficult to get burnt out, you forget that anime isn’t a genre, it’s a medium, people watch movies their whole lives and don’t get burnt out, now if they only watched marvel movies? that would be different, but there’s just so many unique options i don’t think anyone could get truly burnt out, this is coming from someone with a similar watch volume to gigguk
@@GOOOOOOOOOOOOODDAY Even if there is a huge diversity withing anime, its still one type of medium, and is still very much japanese. Even these two factors alone can make someone burnt out. Now add to thar pile that majority of animes are seasonal cannonfodder of whats trendy atm, and 99% it is guranteed burn out if you keep up with every new show
He literally claims to watch anime sped up. Just to "do his job." Its just....🙄
@@fumbuswumbus
Actually!
Gigguk absolutely needs to pause at Anime and starting delving into the other popular Japanese medium: Tokusatsu.
That should help with his burnout.
Yeah. I notice that Garnt sometimes switches his takes according to his surroundings. Most of them if not all of them are Shounen takes. In Trash Taste or in his stream, he lives in a echo chamber as he is the most knowledgeable on the things he says. I think Garnt shines as a anituber when he scripts them in an essay style. I think he sometimes cherry picks certain talking points and runs with it. Which is 90% anituber. Can't fault him in that one. But I find it funny how this video is mostly about his shounen takes but he gets a lot of mixed opinions from older anime fans. In this case, I respect Gigguk cause he actually appreciates and highlights the things he loves in the newer anime sphere. Not like them old fans who are blinded by nostalgia of old shows.
All I want him is to stay consistent with his take. Other than that, good video.
Thanks man fr, if u couldn’t already tell shonen is kind of my bread and butter 😂. I love seinen as well and all that but shonen is kinda my roots. That being said I have heard that ppl also say follows the popular opinion when it comes to other anime outside of shonen so feel free to let me know on that.
I think gigguk is a very cool dude and he’s done a good job at staying out of trouble. I feel sometimes he tends to lean too hard on saying stuff like “it’s nostalgia talking” but I get it cus too many do let their nostalgia blind them.
@@fumbuswumbusIf we are talking about shows outside Shounen, I guess most of the beloved shows like Monster or any Urasawa Naoki works, Berserk, Vagabond, Vinland Saga or more shows generally has the same surface level praise. Gigguk says he likes all of these mentioned above and others. I don't see him giving his opinions or talking points cause he doesn't need to I guess. I would appreciate it but there are certain channel who do it amazingly, in depth and other talking points specially. Personally I think as a person who doesn't like gore and other dark stuff in Berserk, consider Berserk to be the best fiction/manga. It has problems in story structure as every arc seems to be set in same routine. Which isn't bad but it becomes obvious if you look hard enough. Also it undervalues some characters. I won't name due to spoilers. But it is best when it tackles the emotions, the struggles, the relief and somber topics in a grim world. I don't think any medium has even come close to replicate that feelings for me. It is my opinion which I don't expect Gigguk to say in depth. Cause people who like them generally don't watch Gigguk for that series. Gigguk does the same as well as an avid fan of them series. I love Isekai. I generally watch his channel for them. I love Mushoku Tensei. Even it is unconventional as an anime, I like that he has the same passion for that series. Recently he dropped a analysis or review of s2 of Mushoku Tensei. I think that video was one of his best. The editing, talking points, summarizing, in depth analysis was like a story telling. That's why Gigguk shines when he is writing about a video or scripting them. You can feel his passion.
@@alnahianabid8418 this comment is pure fact. I think it is probably just the result of being put on the spot where it’s difficult for him. He can carefully think about why he likes something if it’s scripted. Loved this comment fr
People changes opinions with time its not a big deal
To be fair...generally most people I know do switch their opinions with time or based on surroundings. There are days where I adore Naurto and then there are days when its just another shounen. And ofc if I wanna prove my point I cherry pick, hell even as a lawyer I cherry pick XD I get your point, I just wanted to also highlight that not being consistent is far more humane than being consistent, the main reason we survived as a species is coz we adapt, and..well weirdly that applies ot everything.
Do NOT watch anime youtubers.
I repeat, DO NOT watch anime youtubers.
Yet, here you are…
"Mha aims for greatness" enough heard. Thats something only someone from the mha fandom would say💀
> they all agreeing with him
> chat: wtf? L
Very true. Chat was disagreeing with Gigguk at that point.
I saw his tier list video today before I found yours.. And I am thankful that I wasn't the only person that felt like this. Watching him trash Dragon Ball Z and put it on par with Demon Slayer, and then using Dragon Ball Super to define his opinion of the Dragon Ball franchise as a whole was hard to watch. I also don't think he had much good to say about Naruto either, despite It also being another anime with some of the most polarizing moment's in anime history, but regardless, I feel like he's missing something us early 90s/early 2000s babies have, and that's understanding. I don't know why he wasn't giving some of these anime's points for being iconic/original or being the first to do what It does to shape what anime is today. Of course somebody that may have watched Dragon Ball Z 10-20 years ago is not the same way someone else would watch Dragon Ball Z today, but are we going to seriously ignore why us original fans loved and still love It till this day in the first place? I don't think we should rate anime based on how It aged. I think we should rate It for what it is and how much impact It had in It's time. There was definitely a point in time where some of these anime's were the best of It's time, so this disrespect for series like Dragon Ball Z not having a deep plot and having the best animation urks me, people always do this to dunk on old anime and I can't respect It. While It may not be as rewatchable now, that doesn't mean It wasn't a 10/10 on the majority of fan's first watch growing up. Nice video, I really liked and appreciated this perspective.
The quality of the video is really good for a relatively small channel like this... Hope you grow as soon as possible because your hard work really shines through 👍
"Objectivity does not exist, I told you a million times." - Digibro
Turns out there could have actually been some merit to that forced beef they had, way back when.
That is a name I haven't heard in a long time.
I didn’t expect Nocturne music in the background but its always welcome
The more I think about it, the more I realize that Geoff (Mother's Basement) is just a more in-depth Gigguk. The first similarity is their overall seasonal anime impressions. The only difference is that while Garnt's is more streamlined, Geoff makes two videos, each for what he thinks are good shows and those that he thinks are utter trash, hence the more in-depth Gigguk. I'd say they're still in the same tier of having a surface-level discussion regarding certain series, but you can expect Geoff to have multiple videos about a certain series like Chainsaw Man. He also analyzes and dissects anime openings, which gives him an excuse to talk more about a certain series.
With my observation, do I think that Geoff is better than Garnt? Well, not necessarily. They have their strengths. I prefer the editing in Gigguk's videos, and it also feels like he's telling a story. As for Geoff, he presents better ideas, and it feels like a casual conversation, like talking to your friend or something. He also covers non-anime stuff. I like his Spider-Man videos.
Yesss, I like mothers basement from time to time despite getting a lot of hate. I always found it strange that ppl say Geoff is surface level when he seems to have some pretty concrete opinions (excluding some other videos like the Naruto one). Idk I might be wrong here idk. But I see a lot of parallels between mothers basement and gigguk
@@fumbuswumbus I think he's in-between.
@@fumbuswumbusI think it’s because some Mothers Basement videos can be filled with misinformation (mostly stuff about animation production) or certain takes that are pretty bizarre.
Can def see that considering he watches pretty much all of the anime every season and gives a thoughtful explanation to each note worthy ones in his videos. That being said I still love garnt's content a lot more and simply just chatting with him in his streams talking about anime, etc.
what takes about animation production did he have that were misinformed? I think you're just saying that without any real examples@@xenohunter7528
I believe the guys said in Trash Taste that basically now YT has different people that especifically delve into specific things. So basically their content is "stale".
Also , their popularity is... earned , but also weirdly priviledged. At least , it looks that way.
His videos on Black Clover definitely damaged the perception of it and turned the general community against the series. Calling it a copy of Naruto, bleach etc when most of the time it'll just be a common shonen trope.
Really good video. I'm a fan of Gigguk and watch a lot of Trash Taste and I've kinda felt the same way in regards to his takes on anime. You did a good job of putting those thoughts that a lot of us have had into words
Ever since the pizza crust incident, i could not see him the same way
When he said all bread tasted the same, I knew I had to stop him once and for all😠😠
Great video. I agree with your criticisms. This problems have been rampant in the anime community where they say surface level opinions and generalization on certain animes or genres. Thank you for the callout. Subscribed.
Even his fans call him out when they think he's wrong.
Honestly, his Naruto opinions were what tipped me off...that anime/manga gets so much undeserved hate by people who do not understand the meaning of Naruto (mainly Shippuden) and I think Gigguk is probably one of the reasons as to why Naruto nowadays gets disrespected so much.
Obviously, there are other reasons. A big one are the cringey kids who did the Naruto Run in schools, but...I mean, is that really still relevant nowadays?
Gigguk has sailed that jjk hasn’t had its soul society level typ of arc. And hasn’t done more then bleach but he still put jjk above bleach on the tier list???
His takes are just very inconsistent idk
I watch gigguk regularly and some of the points you made i myself had problem with them and also many i realised when you pointed out, so thanks for that man
And in the end i want only one and simple thing from garnt, is to hold his ground and opinions.
Yessss exactly, i just want him to be more transparent with his opinions. I’m glad u watched the video I appreciate the comment ✊
But who cares? The guy is clearly a generalised anime fan for the avarage anime watcher, he doesn't gain anything from going into a 30 minute in depth rant about a specific show and why he feels thst way, there's anime channels who already do that, he's successful for a reason, and it's not for doing rants defending his opinion
Good video. Some influencers do not realize how much of a role model function they have. Some of them are actively denying it, doesn't matter in what bubble they are, anime, games etc. everywhere the same thing happens.
Ever since all 3 of the Trash Taste members moved to Japan, I felt like they have changed a lot. I can't say much about CDawg, but The Anime Man and Gigguk. You saw that The Anime Man doesn't really watch much anime these days and doesn't really care for newer stuff. I guess he's burned out. Well there is this joking people do about him, that The Anime Man does not watch Anime. For Gigguk as you said in the video he's going for the "safe opinions" and since the last few videos, what he's going to watch in the season, he sound more and more less enthusiastic. Forcing yourself to watch shows to have content not because you enjoy it, can cause burn out.
Oh absolutely. I stopped watching all three recently, due to feelings that had been creeping up on me for a while. I saw a comment somewhere else say that they're only "fairweather fans". They like stuff when its popular to like it, but when the content well dries up, they switch to insisting they never liked it to begin with.
@@thegarunixking1101 A lot of modern anime are not made out of love for art, but out of how can I get this adaptation to make money.
I feel like a video on Joey's takes would be way more entertaining as he's had way more ignorant opinions
Yeh but I feel anime man gets so much shit from the community that I don’t need to fuel the fire. Anime man gets waayyy more flack than gigguk
@@fumbuswumbushe deserves most of it tho
@@neerajcherukuri4052 i really wish you could read what you guys are typing from my perspective. Hot diggity you think highly of your selves.
im not trying to defend anyone but as someone whos extremely out of loop could u tell me a bit about what controversial things hes said?
100% lmfao. This guy couldn't even add a single clip from Garnt's actual analysis videos. These are all stream clips.
His scripted videos is where he takes the opinions seriously and if you can find BS fluff in his scripted videos, then ig I will admit
Flashbacks on Sword Art Online...
So much hate...
So much hate...
Nice video.
It tackled a lot of problems I had with gigguk's view of some Shonen series
I feel the same way but a bit differently about Super Eyepatch Wolf's anime analysis. He made so many articulate video consisting of different views, points and style of medium. But they can be wrong and seen in different light tho. I wasn't at the time when his Bleach video released. But I have heard from friends/fans etc, the video was slanderous for shallow and surface reasonings and stated it as a 'fact' with his biases. That's when I saw him in a different light. He was a bandwagon himself. That's why his response of that video felt very shallow to me. It was him saying that I know what I said are objectively wrong and most of my points can be rebuked by any Bleach fan with credible speaking but I am sorry not sorry. It was like a backhand slap when you are talking to someone. He seemed very pretentious. That's why I appreciate Gigguk. Someone of his status is honest. Yes, he sometimes backpaddles but he is honest.
Interesting I feel kind of the opposite. I feel that supereyepatch wolf comes off more honest than gigguk. I mentioned before that eyepatch’s video on bleach wasn’t the best (end of my video) but the fact that he made a new video refining his arguments and tried to reason with bleach fans showed he cared. When gigguk said himself that he clowns on bleach and it’s fans which I think is a lot less cool. Even if u don’t agree with eyepatches video at all is fine and there would be plenty to criticize from the perspective of a bleach fan, but I always appreciate that he really does have a lot to say
@@fumbuswumbus The thing is that that came off as a little insincere. He privated the first video but that was after it hit its view ceiling and wasn't earning anymore money so no loss to him. And he was basically forced to make the sequel at that point since the anime returning just shit all over everything he said in the first. And i'm sure he made bucks off the new one too.
But he was very clearly proven wrong before that countless times. He could've conceded and corrected himself anytime. But he only made the second video to cash in on the hype return of the series after the news came out.
And its not like the lack of quality of the original video was honest mistakes. He just had an agenda to push. He didn't even get right which part of the manga had the most sales (wasn't soul society).
I'm not really sure why bleach gets the hate it does. Thinking it is trash or falls off is one thing but genuinely people don't use their brain when it comes to it. ProZD made tweets talking about how happy he was that it was ending and how much he hated it, etc, etc. Turns out he hasn't ever seen it.
Anyway maybe certain content creators are more or less honest than others but even so called honest ones like eyepatch wolf become idiotic when it comes to bleach. Irrespective of whether its good or bad these people harbor some deep seated hatred of it beyond the writing and it seems illogical to me i don't understand. Penguinz0 intentionally didn't skip the filler even though he watched it after it was done (i believe he acknowledged he knew what filler was) then talked like the show physically damaged him.
In terms of anime though the original bleach anime is an absolute insult to the manga. As a massive fan i rewatched bits recently. The hueco mundo section is borderline unwatchable.
@@tnuhenaj3752 He did the same in his Fear and Hunger video. He compared some cave monsters in the game to indigenous people and called it problematic. And if you thought otherwise you were part of the problem and he wouldnt discuss it further.
Rightly people called him out on this, he tried to fight back, removed the part in the video, then never apologized and now pretends it never happened, removing all the comments that referred to his blatant racism.
That guy is waay too arrogant and states unpopular opinions like everyone worship those. Holy Moly I cannot stand that guy.
Gigguk is unironically better as a Podcaster rather than a 'critic'.
waiting for his "Jujutsu kaisen season 2 is a masterclass of shonen" video that will come out in early 2024
Fun fact: This video was foreshadowed on 3 other videos 🤫
I remember when Gigguk used to make Zero Punctuation style anime reviews. I also remember him having more unique takes during that time. I haven't watched Gigguk regularly for a long time but he always gave me the impression that he now panders to the largest audience rather than having more genuine takes.
28:48 The fact that he said he cried at the Spider scene in Demon Slayer had me laughing with tears 🤣 SPOILER ALERT I'm assuming he's talking about the scene while Tanjiro is flying thru the forest and slices the spider kid's head off. That was the absolute worst thing about the series imo 🤣 It built up so much hype with the backstory of the dad and fluid animation. But it was super anticlimatic when the demon kid put back his head, and some hashira stole the spotlight a few seconds after.
I think he was talking about tanjiro and the spider mother.
I have been a fan of gigguk for years now and most of my anime came from his recommendations. The problem is, I don't watch all of his videos, list, and with zero podcast. So the one thing I missed is him being contradictory to himself. But it doesn't stop me being a fan, because of many reasons. Thank you for making this video as it shows the side of gigguk that flew on everyone's head. Keep it up dude. New sub here.
Thank u sm, and keep watching his videos because he is someone that makes u happy. That’s more important than anything else
Thanks man. And good luck with your YT journey. I hope to see your recommendation.
Don't really mind his bad takes. In fact it's already a running joke and much more enjoyable that sometimes I have to disagree when I watch his reviews.
And his switch ups are most likely to avoid certain immature fandoms.
I think as a Hunter x Hunter fan, nothing annoys me more than seeing big name youtubers put other Shonen down in order to prop up HxH, saying it's "Not like other Shonen", or "It deconstructs the Shonen Genre" when, as someone who has read HxH for the first time this year, I personally don't see it
I love HxH, like, top 3 for me, but I do think that people don't know how to gas this series up properly, and it's a problem that I think needs to be addressed
FAXXXXX, love hunter x Hunter so much but I’m so glad people stopped saying “deconstruction” or “you need a higher intellect” type shit. Some ppl started to realize that there are complexities to other shonen series besides hxh 😭😭
@@fumbuswumbus It's only gonna make us look pretentious as fuck, and could give people the wrong impression about the series
Togashi fans in the early 2010's were mad obnoxious, and it ruined YYH for me when I finally got to read it, I was so disappointed 😭
@@RiderNexus I felt the same way about yyh a little bit, I still really like it tho
holy shit i wanted someone to say this for so long , thank you
Before the Gigguk riders get here this is a very good and informative video. While I really like Gigguk and his content I can’t deny dude has his flaws in how he approaches anime. Great video man keep up the great work!
I heard some really great criticism in the comments, but there were some where it was pretty clear they didn’t watch the video 😭😭
True
@@fumbuswumbus They need to Watch the Video first.
I think what is ironic with these takes is that it's your opinion just like him, and of course, like him, you have many flaws in your opinions. But at the end of the day, you make an opinion because you believe you are 100% right. And that opinion is based on how you personally feel. Interesting video for sure. Just find it strange to focus on someone's "bad" opinions solely because they don't take about shows all the time. His channel has never been an hour long analytic video over a certain arc. Also, his complaint about making popular and safe opinions doesn't mean he doesn't have valid opinions. Like you hear those statements all the time because a lot of people came to the same conclusion, and just because you have a more unique take doesn't make you more right or more valid. But hey, at the end of the day, this is just my opinion on the matter!
@@JewJitSuSixty9it’s all a matter of perspective at the end of the day
I don’t have much to add but after seeing the video I have to agree with a lot of what you said. I feel like Gigguk has been less serious about the anime scene in recent. I watched a ton of trash taste and the three of the members last year and I was entertained. Being entertained does not correlate to gaining anything very substantial, I watched gigguk frequently but off the top of my head I don’t really remember anything he said that stuck with me. While I watched your video I kinda realized why I stopped watching Gigguk as much, I just felt that he and the taste boys have built themselves up like an episodic cartoon. I tried watching the latest trash taste episode after a few months of neglect but I think becoming big has made them small in a sense. I’m not discrediting their achievements but they feel static; much like characters in comedy in a 9:00pm weekday time slot. In Gigguk’s case it feels like he’s disinterested in anime, or what I should say is that he doesn’t have the time for anime. As Gigguk and trash taste have become more popular I’m guessing his time to commit to anime has shrunk. It’s perfectly fine that this has happened and I’m glad he’s going places but it’s like when I peaked at smash bros, at one point I knew everything there was to know about smash and I was on the top of my game but then life did it’s thing and I had to do other things. Smash shelved and while I come back to it from time to time it’s not with the same commitment.
What did I say? I have no idea but I think that Gigguk has drifted from the space and has become essentially the Mr Beast of anitube. (Don’t ask for the details of what that entails, I’m not 100% sure myself). It’s like a shadow of Gigguk remains as the man himself moves on to other things.
W vid, described my problems completely
Bestie I think you’ve just outgrown his style of content. His content is mostly at newbie anime fans & seasonal anime watchers
Timestamps:
Context: 0:00
Video Starts: 3:07
The Main Problem: 9:07
Doesn’t Understand One Piece: 12:15
Doesn’t Understand Naruto: 15:28
Slanders DBZ: 18:08
Switches up on Bleach 24:54
Can’t make up his mind on Demon Slayer 28:19
Gigguk As a Critic: 30:55
Manga Vs. Anime 38:06
Conclusion 43:19
How I think he can improve: 47:07
thanks for making this video. I specially enjoyed your segment on Gigguk's Dragon Ball slander. Since it says everything that needs to be said. he gives criticism without substance. He doesn't give a reason as to why Dragon Ball is mid. He just says that it is, and we can't accept that as valid. I think Dragon Ball is great and I think that Son Goku who is someone that doesn't change or go through a character arc throughout the series, is still one of the most well written characters in manga. Goku doesn't change but he changes the world and characters around him. and he drags the story forward. Most of Dragon Ball's arcs happen because of Goku and his decisions. Not to mention that the fights don't feel as part of the story. Instead the fight themselves feel like a story in on itself. With their own plot, story beats and drama. A lot of the things that Dragon Ball did are still unique to Dragon Ball. For example the timeframe of the story and each arc being set in a different part of the protagonist's life (the manga spans roughly 40 years of Goku's life). Which was done really well since most fans enjoyed watching Goku grow up, get married, raise his sons, chill with his granddaughter, see his circle of friends grow while losing some friends, etc... It's all a part of the story. And most battle shonens don't offer this kind of story. this is praise is in addition to what you said in the video.
So I disagree with Gigguk's take that Dragon Ball is mid, and I gave my reasons as to why it's great (in addition to the reasons you gave in the video). Gigguk however doesn't give his reason as to why it's mid. He just says it's nostalgia and that it didn't age well. Which is criticism without substance. That's the main point about Gigguk. Besides if his criticism is true then why isn't there nostalgia for Dragon Ball's competitor in shonen jump during that era? Saint Seiya.? Dragon Ball became popular around the world because it was good. And it continues to remain popular because it aged well. and I can confirm this because I very recently (a few months ago) watched DB&DBKai. The characters, world and story aged like fine wine. It's just the filler that is mixed with the canon episodes and the old animation from the 80s and 90s that didn't age well imo. So as a series Dragon Ball is great. Saint Seiya is the one that didn't age well in my opinion. Saint Seiya's very core theme of friendship was done in so many other battle shonens and they implemented it much better than Saint Seiya did. If we're going to be honest with ourselves we'd say it's Saint Seiya that didn't age well or is still liked because of nostalgia. instead of slandering DB.
I also like the Naruto segment in your video. He also says "some of the other characters" or "some other anime should be on this list". Implying something else should be there. But he never gives a suggestion to what should be there. I honestly think your whole video was well made and well put together. It was a great video and that's probably why it has a total of 223 likes compared 4 dislikes. Great job fumbus.
@@owithani well said, thanks for sticking to the end i appreciate it
@@owithaniwait how did you see the dislikes wasn't the addon banned?
@@DeepanshV I have a dislike youtube extension downloaded
his db takes... the "didnt age well" and "too dragged out" are far from true, even if he doesnt like the og animation z got remade where the too drag out isnt a thing (it was filler) and him saying it wasnt influencial is crazy, the manga wich he calls outdated still has far better art than multiple new gen manga the og db was gag his humour might not be like the og manga but it isnt outdated in any way the z part on the other hand is battle shonen not gag its not dragged out or anything i read most of it recently its not bad or "nostalgia carried" either it was really good
btw i skipped the naruto takes but whatever takes he has said about it is invalid he made a video with the anime man where they were asked questions about anime and many of them were about naruto and they were basic questions and they didnt know shit about it they could barely answer some of them (i dont remember wich video it was bout it was in one of the anime man's channel)
Remember when "Mother badment " creat a long video cuz Gigguk called Re:zero season 1 is allright and just random chaos .
While I don't agree with some things in the video, I'll agree 100% that I hate how the whole Trash Taste team keep saying "DBZ is bad because the fanbase is toxic"
I agree we should get on him about his opinions on a lot of anime manga gigguk I wanted to for a long time
Gigguk isn't bad per se, as someone who used to consume his content a lot, but I think his takes on things he doesn't care about gets annoying. I just don't like how he keeps trash talking Love Live whenever he gets the chance to talk about it. (or maybe idol genre or the industry in general) He made jokes about how idol fans can be toxic, while anime community in general is like that. Idk, I like him enough to still support him, but his takes does irks me at times. It's sad bc I think he can be open-minded enough, when he tries.
He ain’t bad, but man his takes can really bother me sometimes. Also I know that this video is mostly about the big shonen series but I’ve also been informed the points I made applies to other anime like fate and idol series like u mentioned
@16:05
Yeah just like the time he singlehandedly killed the chances of golden kamuy to become slightly more acknowledged just by talking about the cgi bears (yes i am resentful)
I like this kind of videos. Present the evidence from multiple channel and actually putting work on a topic that is most likely won't be remembered for too long. I enjoyed the video till the end and I also have some disagreeing point. Nevertheless, great video for over something to get out of your chest, I respect it
Thanks man really happy u watched the whole way through
First of as a Gigguk follower who's been watching him for a while I 100% agree with you. I felt the same way when he was doing the tierlist which I can see you talk about too! I'm glad you were able to vocalise what I was concerned about and bring light to them. Also props to you for not sounding like you're just dunking on him.
His taste is mid. Seriously bland.
And he's too privileged. Even worse, he parades his privilege and pretends he doesn't know it.
Typical of a bullied person (or at least he thought he is) and finally gains some power.
That's it.
I view his videos like Cinema Sins where the main point isn't to be insightful, the idea is to be entertaining (even though I don't personally enjoy either). He just sort of parrots whatever opinion is popular and works comedy into the videos to make them distinct.
Regardless of the safeness of his opinions and memory failures as a whole, Gigguk has forever won my subscription with his glowing-ish review of the Index franchise, which basically remarked on most of the things I've been trying to tell people for years that most couldn't seem to understand when I tried to explain it. #spreadtheholygospel
I just love his prediction of certain opinions. Not everything align but his reccommendations and flexible if subjective or not lovely man
THANK YOU FOR THE DRAGON BALL SECTION. I get so sad when people talk about dragon ball like the only thing that’s good about it is what it’s done for other anime. There’s a reason it’s one of the most popular anime series not only in Japan, but in the world
It’s popular, because of nostalgia
@@loveonepieceforever8203 yes no shit. It’s literally the reason anime is so popular in Latin America and the west mainly
@@loveonepieceforever8203it's popular because it's amazing
This is exactly why I like gigguk, his videos feel like you’re just having a conversation with your friend about an anime that they watched
I think what this comes down to is how a lot of Gigguks opinions are just lazy. Like, you're allowed to think that dragonball hasn't aged well, or that bleach fell off, or whatever, but at the end of the day the reason that I'm going to your youtube channel is beause I want to actually hear you say something interesting. It's not even that these opinions are wrong, I'm of the opinion that there isn't really such a thing as a "wrong" opinion, it's just that I can find all of them being regurgitated by randos on twitter. Why should I be listening to you if you aren't bringing anything new or interesting to the table.
Exactly, thank you for making this video.
Well made video dude! I agree with your points, but I just wanted to point out how great the editing was
Thanks for getting all of my thoughts out, needed that
For me, the biggest problem with all of this is calling these people "influencers". We're saying that these people have the power to make you like or hate something...........seriously? To me, this highlights the mediocrity of people who allow themselves to be carried away by people who give "their opinion" about something.
right? gigguk just makes fun videos to entertain, i agree with some of his stuff and i disagree with some of his stuff. whatever he says, ill like somthing based on my own feelings in the matter so who cares if the guy is just saying random shit. this video criticised gigguk using clips where he says something is good and somthing is bad, like is he not allowed so say anything without giving a 30 min reason why he likes it or not
They just trying to be elitist, this is a bs video tbh
yeah, whoever came up with the whole "influencer" title is just stupid tbh. it wasn't the youtubers and instagramers who came up with it, i think it was some douche who writes articles.
Some anime UA-camrs has influenced me to watch some anime. When I don't like an anime and don't know how to properly communicate what I don't like about it anime analysis videos come in handy. They don't tell me what to think, more like help me understand why I feel the way I do.
@@animec-dramaskpop6362 you have to decide for yourself, not others. I disagree with 70% of these UA-camrs, most of the time they are bureaucratic comments or the use of clichéd language "the construction of this story doesn't work well..." and other more repetitive things.
I've kind of stopped watching most anitubers because a lot of anime I like seems to be passed over or shit on by the big guys with nothing more added besides it being "trash" or "not the best in its genre." I started to feel like I was somehow wrong for having my own opinions. I understand of course that everyone has different tastes and that I really shouldn't take it too seriously, but after a while you start to feel icky when the anituber echo-chamber takes effect.
Very relatable, I kinda dislike when the things I like get treated as nothing of worth or a sense of backhandedness, I personally just didn't want to watch anymore
sometimes with anime I feel everytime anime is mentionned someone basically goes on to say "oh but it isnt a masterpiece like x" "anime aint like it was in the 90s".
People forget that not everything needs to be flawless masterpieces and that in the 90s people had a smaller sample size for shows you would see and we didnt get the utter trash that might have been produced back then unlike now where it's so easy to consume those shows.
Great video m8 and i hope it gets popular, found myself agreeing with many of the things you pointed out and i found many of the same problems you pointed out with chibireviews. I can't stand when individuals can't hold their ground
Thanks, I’m glad u stuck through 🙏🙏
Most people are afraid of pissing off mainstream fans. Meanwhile I always liked how Sydney always stayed true to herself embracing stuff even when its cringe. Cuz thats a legit one
Lives up to the podcast channel name
well, for me ive learned that reaching 100% objectivity in arts and literature its impossible. What i like not necessarily will be liked by other ppl, what i interpret from a series maybe ppl will interpret it different. The opinion i get might differ from others. With that conclusion, i dont really pursue ppl opinions on anime, its true that i do check the ratings to see what the general consensus is, but if i see something that interests me im still going to watch even if the ratings are not that good.
Ive seen gigguk reviews but its not like i hold them in high esteem, its not like if gigguk tells me x anime is mid im not going to watch it, or the other way around. I like seeing it cuz he is a good narrator and funny guy, same with joey and connor. We gotta accept ppl see and form their own opinions on something that once again its not math, which objectively is 2+2=4
Tbh I fully agree with what you're saying. I think Garnt's points are mostly all surface level unless one of his videos is specifically to do with one anime like his aot video when season 3 ended. But aside from that I find myself more and more disagreeing with a lot of his points like that kakashi one caught me so so off guard and same with the one piece one about it being political.
Having said that I kinda feel like I see where he's coming from in the sense of I've had similar opinions about a show like dbz not being as good as people say it is. But for the most part that is cos of online influence. Because you haven't watched these shows in so long you can remember the overarching story but not what actually made it so good. Therefore, the only thing you have to go off is what people are saying online which obviously tends to be the worst thing you could do. But when you have a certain idea of a show ingrained into you when you haven't seen it in a LONG time, it kinda leads to just superficial and innaccurate points. I would argue if Gigguk does take the time to invest himself in a show then he actually does make good points like with some of the seasonal anime. But its clear he doesn't know what he's talking about when he's on about shows he hasn't watched in YEARS.
I also think the switching up on anime take is probably valid but I see that more as a comedic thing which he leans more into than like ACTUALLY switching up. Like yes the joke kinda works but it is the truth but.. (i really dont know im literally just giving a pass for him being funny which is prolly wrong and im sorry but also not? I realise im prolly part of the problem)
I would love him to see this video and take some of these ideas on board because honestly ye I would like more depth to his reasoning in tierlist videos. I kinda gave him an excuse of oh there's so many anime to tierlist, obviously he only has time just to say a couple sentences. But it would like give me a better idea as to what he's thinking.
Also, I dont think it's bad to have surface level takes on a show? I just kind of like the idea we have someone in the community who is kind of a personification of the anime community almost. Like I think it's part of the charm that he's not a great critic but regardless is stating an opinion even if it could be debunked with a slightly closer look at the anime. Again i really do think this is mainly on shounen shows and more specifically shows that he would have watched ages ago. I still do think he has a lot of meaningful things to say in more anime specific videos but ye.
ANYWAYS this was a very interesting video to watch and, even though I'm watching it biased more toward Gigguk, I still think it was a good idk analysis? or just wtv genre this is its a great video and funny .I would love to see more ( i will check out your other vids). Keep it up man. I hope you or Garnt dont get any hate for this man.
I agree with everything u just said this was a well put together comment for sure. I like how gigguk feels kind of like epicenter of anime discussion but of course that can lead to some wacky takes.
I’m sure gigguk won’t get mad I’m sure he’ll understand. On the trash taste podcast he had to deal with a neighbor curse at him for recording to loud and remained calm. If he can handle that I’m sure one little video won’t hurt him. I just hope he doesn’t try to mock me or something on live and actually take the video seriously. That would be pretty low
Imma be honest i agree with his mha fight takes they do feel more dull than other shonen specifically more so in the beginning and it does feel way more character based
Also it makes sense that he likes naruto more than bleach i feel like if you really like a show you can find more critism at least thats how it is for me
True true
I remember the Bleach slander coming out and the damage it did to the general opinion lol
In Gigguks defense, a lot of Bleach trash talkers went quiet when the anime was announced and even more so when it was straight fire.
I feel it was just a popular thing to kick Bleach because the anime got canceled and manga was forced to wrap.Then there was a ripple effect where people would just parrot it without actually reading or watching Bleach.
OMG, ty for the comment. I hate Bleach haters, cause they always say the dumbest arguments on why Bleach is bad like "The anime got cancelled" or "It has plot armour" and etc. 1st of all the Bleach anime wasn't cancelled, it was paused, cause they didn't want to make more filler and they want to finish other projects 1st and most power ups that Ichigo got were either explained, foreshadowed or they showed how he got it 💀. Bleach has its flaws, it isn't a 10/10 masterpiece, but other seriess also have many problems like when in Naruto they introduced overpower God characters out of nowhere just to kill of Madara, a rushed ending and etc. I'm just glad that Bleach is getting the love that it deserves recently.
You must not've been around back when Bleach was being serialized if you think that the Bleach hate only started in the finale/final arc. Most of the criticisms/memes (like Kubo being too lazy to draw backgrounds, nothing happening in a chapter, being able to read a chapter in 10 seconds, the infamous "THE HEART" page) all started in the Hueco Mundo arc and lasted all the way to the end.
@twixraiderhm Been a fan since '05. There's always been criticisms yes, but I'm talking about the hate that blew up after the anime got canceled.
I went "quiet" because I just said, "I'm not going to watch this and don't give a fuck as Bleach fanboys are annoying." So, no, it's not "Straight fire" it is just we are doing something better with our time.
@@KazeShikamaru Keep telling yourself that horseshit.
anyone who dislikes dragon ball for those reason and thinks one piece is top tier is an actual sinner
Agree with you on a lot of these points - he’s REALLY quick to nitpick the mainstream battle shonens while gassing up weirdass incest shows
Shoutout to Rosie Knight at IGN too, hope she’s doing alright after getting put on blast publicly by a massive youtuber TWICE and hope she hasn’t been too emotionally destroyed by the targeted harassment.
putting one piece as the number one due to zeitgeist is also inherently a middle finger not just to the other series in the same genre but moreso to one piece itself because the ranking is given for the popularity of the work rather than anything the work did itself
I've watched probably hundreds of anime and read even more manga. Dragon Ball is still my favorite series. I understand it's not perfect, but every year I actually appreciate the story more and giving a reread there are many themes that non dragon Ball fans don't even notice.
The English dub did irreversible damage to the community. It completely changed the script and characters that led to people like Gigguk who have only seen the dub as a kid/teen into thinking the show and characters are something they aren't
Gigguk is a well written human character, has flaws
So gigguks problem, is that there isn’t enough of him. And you want him to post more content about specific things. Rather than summarizing his opinions.
Initially, I thought it would be a hate video, but it was surprisingly wholesome and funny.
Your UA-cam channel has been subscribed to instantly.
The Dragon Ball franchise is still goated even without the nostalgic talking fr fr
I don’t know how to explain it but this video really made feel like I should just let loose on the things I think are “too weird” or “trying to hard” both with the my opinions and the way I go about life ngl Iv always been one of those people that switches up on a show or video game when I see that other people don’t like it as much or like it a lot like with one piece for example me personally Iv always thought to myself I don’t think one piece is significantly better than naruto or most other shonen Iv always just seen it as a really good one but when I started looking more into it online and seeing that everyone hold it to such a high standard and praises it as being the gold standard of shonen I guess subconsciously I kinda adapted the same mindset of “I guess this means I also have to think one piece is the greatest shonen” and I did lol but this video especially the part U were talking about how it’s ok to think what u think about a piece of media because it’s art at the end of the day and art is subjective and I gotta say I really appreciate and respect people like you for being so damn humble and true to urself it’s something Iv really been struggling with for a while now. obviously I’m still gonna have doubts on whether I should be enjoying something this much just because everyone says it’s good or I really hate this thing but everyone seems to like it so I guess I like it now this video didn’t magically just change the way I think but it’s definitely a step and I just wanted to thank you for that.
Thanks for attending my yap session.
Your welcome man, I’m happy u got something positive from the video and I’m great appreciate ur honesty. Keep being epic 👌👌
Thank u for inviting me to ur yap session 😎
A big problem I have with reviewers are when they review something and they don't like it not because it's bad but because they just don't like that type of show/movie/game. There's a big difference between opinions and facts. If you hate a show/movie/game that's fine but just don't act like what you're saying is fact or the obvious truth.
I like when ppl explain their taste first and then through that lens they review something. People's taste should give you an idea of who they are. Everyone has someone they know that they can say, "oh my friend would love this media because it has X and they love it."
So I'm ok with someone saying something that I like is bad if they can explain why. To this day, I have no idea what kind of media Gigguk likes.
You know what’s crazy is that there is no way to review any media in a way that everyone will agree with he thinks his style works others think his style works but not everyone but I do like this video for bringing up their gripes without bringing down the one he is criticizing
I agree
it doesn't matter how much people agree with you, what matters is the truth, even if everyone is against you the pursuit of the truth is more important than appeasing others