I like that the message is basically it doesn't matter if joker's romantically manipulating someone or just genuinely loves them. He's going to corrupt them
At least he doesn't need to lie about it or throw them in a chemical vat like he did with Harley, he's clean with them from the start, and they all are happy with it.
Not sure about the kids, but the mom was already off the deep end. She ran over Two-Face and was going to beat him to death and was willing to "Jason Todd" Bethany for excluding Bennicio from the dual immersion program.
Well. It's actually kinda sweet to see his entire family is joining him to villany. After all a villain who has a family supporting him is more dangerous and unpredictable
I think that's the difference this time, because before Bethany was about to blow his head off. But this time he let them know and they were all for it now.
He's rated R. He's finally allowed to be deadly and funny. That puts him instantly in the category of the best Jokers like Ledger, Phoenix, Romero, Hamill, he's a threat and also genuinely funny.
"Who wants to *steal* some soft serve?!" I love this line because while he's still a villain, he's looking out for his children and making the theft a family affair. It's so cute!
I dunno. It just feels like the new writers wanted to play with Joker. I was more interested in the character building a Jokerfied society that worked.
I don’t know why but this has a different feel compared to Joker corrupting Harley into villainy. This genuinely seemed wholesome. The Joker didn’t need to slowly manipulate his family into becoming bad guys. They just randomly jumped on the bandwagon out of nowhere and supported him 😭
Just like real relationships, it's much healthier when you're clear and transparent about your intentions and give the other person/people the chance to decide by themselves if they want to leave or stay ♥
Or that he offers to steal ice cream. I'm sure it's going to be chaotic, but he might have picked it as both to celebrate and ease them into commiting crimes.
That's actually pretty normal, not that cartoonishly, but you often got family and friends sharing the morals. That's why the whole power of friendship thing is stupid. Especially evil people hold together in many ways. It's actually more good people who got loser bonds, because when you want to be good you have to car for EVERYONE, not just your friends.
I love how the wife was like, "Eh, fuck it. I stand to gain from this." Joker didnt even need to do any manipulation here. He just sat his new family down and simply said "Im going back to evil" and they were all just chill about it. Ironically wholesome.
For her it means she doesn't has to hold back anymore, like back when Joker stopped her from murdering Two-Face. Never forget that Bethany was about to zero fucking Two-Face.
I like how Joker is more honest and direct with his family and they trust him so much they willingly go along with his return to villany. Very wholesome.
Joker's going back to evil, and his family is joining him. I don't know whether to find this hilarious or heartwarming. Maybe both? Edit as of September 24th, 2023: Also, HOLY F***ING SH*T! I never realized how many likes this comment got so quickly until now. Thank you so much! 😀👍
oh you mean the guy whose family he killed and who's sons are mostly dead because of joker's attempts to kill them? Yes, naturally one of those people would be worse off than the other.
I am so glad joker is going back to crime with his family’s support and their not just erasing all of his character growth completely. This show made the joker actually interesting in a fresh new way.
I love when he says "I'll blow up any hospital who sends us a bill!" All I think about is heth ledger, just such an iconic moment in all of batman, and this was just such a dark funny joke
They leaned into this quickly, I guess that makes sense since throughout the series he had to reign her back as often as vice versa. I just hope he doesn’t end up treating them like he did Harley.
as likely as the show, he actually loved them and care for them and show it in many occasions. I think this could be something like that red skulled villian from the ventur borthers from adult swin, but now the family with him.
A lot of aspects of this show do seem to be inspired by The Venture Bros, which is weird because so much stuff from The Venture Bros was based on the DC Universe.@@venezolanoanimatios5863
@@venezolanoanimatios5863oh man Red Death. But to be fair to Red Death, villany is his literal job and once he gets the opportunity he retires from "Arching" for the sake of his family.
@@CptPhilippnes fiar, but agian, his wife knows, and she is supportive about it, the idea is not having the whole family but mostly that idea of them being aware and supportive of it
Honestly it’s kinda wholesome but in a twisted way that Joker doesn’t need to use his laugh gas to fuck them up to be like him, they’re already fucked up enough to support him internally already lol
I actually appreciate that she had realistic concerns like health insurance and shit before going in fully. Supportive but also making sure he thought it through.
I'm not sure which idea I find scarier: the thought that Joker's madness is contagious and if you spend too long around him you start to act like him, or that any random group of people is just a tiny push from embracing his behavior whole-heartedly.
I like to think his family is just made/destined for him, so they're on his wavelength. They weren't all that normal deep down inside. (I mean, would a normal single mom want to be with a recent ex-villain?)
Let's all admit that this is cute and entirely wholesome! He sat them down and told them of this big decision and they fully supported him. Villainous family goals.
The best part, he didn't convince them, he let them know about his life choice and they jumped in at the idea 😂😂 in a fucked way, that is pure love and support
I don't watch this series, but have always found what it's doing different very interesting. I hope that this is just a relapse and Joker realizes either that he's changed too much to be a hardcore villain anymore, or that his family means too much to him to drag them down.
Glad he found people just as evil as he is, apparently. Which also probably means that if he ever tries something against them, he's gonna be in trouble more than with Harley.
Again, that's what makes his character so unexpectedly chaotic and interesting. He's a literal agent of chaos, and he is a man who prefers to have his life be multiple choice. His origin story, his decision making, the life he lives, the people he loves or hates. He'll make any decision he fucking once if he fucking feels like it.
I really/seriously can't tell if this is heartwarming, wholesome, or horrifying? Cus Joker bad already but a Joker Family is something new. (huh? Joker Family, that sounds kinda cool in a weird/messed up way)
@@ArmiGirl90 Too Royal Flush gang yo. Joker's a Clown, think clown themed names with Circua chacters along a bit of Royal Flush gang themes (Or no royal flush ganng, your call)
They seem like a wholesome family! They really love each other and participate in activities together. It's clear that the dad is happy to back up his wife and children and help them out with the challenges they are facing in their day-to-day lives, no matter how big or small.
I love the Joker's family and mayor arc. I didn't really care much about comics and extended universe/multiverse stuff until Harley Quinn. It's a good demonstration of how new stories can still be made with these characters.
The interesting thing is, from everything we've seen Joker has been a good influence for the most part, which means the dark side of his family was always there...
I figured he wouldn't stay "good", but I'm more surprised that he's still valuing his family, let alone keeping them alive. It's kinda respectful and wholesome, in a way.
i have zero context for this season, but i really hope joker actually cares about them as much as he's shown in past seasons, and that he doesnt treat her like he did harley now that she's joining him in crime
I think I know where this is heading. Once he reveal he is evil it will create a sad storyline drama that cause strife in the family he came to lo- oh, wait they are into it and happily join in on his villainy. Well that’s a subversion
Here we see that despite his reputation, joker actually cares about his family. His first crime back into villainy is stealing soft serve (which benefits his children) and he holds off on turning and instead giggles manically until his wife approves. Based family man joker.
All it takes is one bad day... Or a few annoying moments while also having Joker treat you well as a family member. The Joker will corrupt, regardless of what he's doing.
I like that the message is basically it doesn't matter if joker's romantically manipulating someone or just genuinely loves them. He's going to corrupt them
It may be evil but at least its a wholesome kind of evil.
At least he doesn't need to lie about it or throw them in a chemical vat like he did with Harley, he's clean with them from the start, and they all are happy with it.
Villainy is looked at a little differently in the show though. It’s kinda like venture bros where it’s viewed as almost a legitimate profession.
@@lskulskioh nice
Not sure about the kids, but the mom was already off the deep end.
She ran over Two-Face and was going to beat him to death and was willing to "Jason Todd" Bethany for excluding Bennicio from the dual immersion program.
Well. It's actually kinda sweet to see his entire family is joining him to villany. After all a villain who has a family supporting him is more dangerous and unpredictable
Welp, good bye Bat family. Hello Clown Family.
At least he doesn't have to kidnap and torture Tim Drake...
He cares about them getting hurt apparently. This isn't going to work.
Was he slowly driving them into madness like he did to Harley the whole time!?!😮
The family that slays together, stays together
The daughter especially seemed way too ready for this
It's always the chore wheel 😂
She was anticipating it eagerly
And the boy. Really enthusiastic about poison gas for his school science project. Love it 😅
She had clearly been waiting, hoping for this outcome. Probably would have become a villain on her own when she grew up.
Ya know jokers daughter is a character in DC
And Harley hates her guts 😂
What a great father Joker has become. He lets his family know about his life plans. What a great role model for all evil clown fathers.
I think that's the difference this time, because before Bethany was about to blow his head off. But this time he let them know and they were all for it now.
He's a proper Family Guy now.
@@estebangutierrez160 Wow, that reminds me of that one time I watched this show that wasn't very funny!
Batman is in trouble
@@ddshocktrooper5604I mean you think this show is? That’s kinda embarrassing
The more this show makes the Joker a parody of himself, the more he seems to be more accurate to the character than the comics have been lately.
tbh.
Ironicly, to be awesome parody, one has to be the ✨️perfect✨️ original first.
I mean, he is the Joker.
He makes jokes. Even if he's the joke himself.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
He's rated R. He's finally allowed to be deadly and funny.
That puts him instantly in the category of the best Jokers like Ledger, Phoenix, Romero, Hamill, he's a threat and also genuinely funny.
Joker: I will blow up every hospital that sends us a bill!
That must have been the most heroic thing Joker has ever said.
Who taught your evil ass what "heroic" even is?😂😂
He is a socialist
Not really.
That's a seppo joke.
He'd actually be doing the world a favor, all hospitals should allow their patients that can only afford a partnership deal to come in.
"Who wants to *steal* some soft serve?!"
I love this line because while he's still a villain, he's looking out for his children and making the theft a family affair. It's so cute!
I'll all for Joker doing some petty shit like this
naaah, guy just wants some soft serve.
Hope they have sorbet for Benicio
So long as he gets to keep his family and their dynamic stays wholesome, I'm totally cool with Joker going back to being a villain
yeah I adore his family and legit cares for them
As long as his wife doesn't become Harley 2........
They all love each other and legit could not care less about anyone else.
Same here.
I dunno. It just feels like the new writers wanted to play with Joker. I was more interested in the character building a Jokerfied society that worked.
"Well, you know there is this cashier..." lol, remember folks, the difference between a housewife and a supervillain is merely opportunity
Uh, she's a nurse?
@@Visplight Even more applicable, tbh. All that stress needs an outlet
@@jonquilgemstone Yup. there's some crazy nurses out there.
What's with Joker's thing and medical workers LOL oh right, they all think they can fix him and he's like CHALLENGE ACCEPTED 😂
This needs to be pinned omm
I don’t know why but this has a different feel compared to Joker corrupting Harley into villainy. This genuinely seemed wholesome. The Joker didn’t need to slowly manipulate his family into becoming bad guys. They just randomly jumped on the bandwagon out of nowhere and supported him 😭
I reckon Bethany would jump into the chemical vat and do a flip before Joker found a parking space.
I feel like, if you're gonna date the Joker, you gotta at least be a little into the idea of a super-criminal lifestyle.
Yeah looks like it behold the other smith family done supper villain n just dessert jus fine right Mr McCracken ?
Just like real relationships, it's much healthier when you're clear and transparent about your intentions and give the other person/people the chance to decide by themselves if they want to leave or stay ♥
He didn’t corrupt harley into anything she knew who the joker was beforehand what are you talking about?
His family gleefully joining in on the villainy is not what I expected. But it is *amazing*
Same here, I honestly thought that Bethany was gonna leave him for this. But boy, was I wrong 😅
Or that he offers to steal ice cream. I'm sure it's going to be chaotic, but he might have picked it as both to celebrate and ease them into commiting crimes.
That's actually pretty normal, not that cartoonishly, but you often got family and friends sharing the morals.
That's why the whole power of friendship thing is stupid. Especially evil people hold together in many ways.
It's actually more good people who got loser bonds, because when you want to be good you have to car for EVERYONE, not just your friends.
Seconded
I love how the wife was like, "Eh, fuck it. I stand to gain from this." Joker didnt even need to do any manipulation here. He just sat his new family down and simply said "Im going back to evil" and they were all just chill about it. Ironically wholesome.
For her it means she doesn't has to hold back anymore, like back when Joker stopped her from murdering Two-Face. Never forget that Bethany was about to zero fucking Two-Face.
she's a nurse in Gotham City who had to support two kids on her own for a while, I think she was always one step from insanity
well at least Joker’s more wholesome now…… And he’s evened out the playing field with Batman since he now has his own genuine family of his own….😅😅😂😂
the best revenge is living well.
"you're the best, dad!"
"see that, brucey? unlike some children, :my: kid has a living father..."
The laugh family
@@russellmzFOUL
I like how Joker is more honest and direct with his family and they trust him so much they willingly go along with his return to villany. Very wholesome.
I absolutely love Joker’s character arc.
Manipulative narcissist to genuinely changed family man to conflicted social butterfly back the Evil.
I wouldn't say it's just "back to evil." He's evil *with a family* now - it doesn't seem like any of his past character development is gone.
The fact that they are choosing villainy for the pettiest of reasons has me rolling 😂
Joker's going back to evil, and his family is joining him.
I don't know whether to find this hilarious or heartwarming. Maybe both?
Edit as of September 24th, 2023: Also, HOLY F***ING SH*T! I never realized how many likes this comment got so quickly until now. Thank you so much! 😀👍
I'd go with worrying. the joker alone is a force to be reckoned with, can you imagine what a family of jokers can do?
One of them is a doctor too@@azuredragon9276
@@azuredragon9276 to quote Catwoman from Batman the brave and the bold
some has kid with him
some one married him .
sorry if it mess it up.
I literally was laughing. I couldn't take this scene seriously, even if it's a comedy show 😂
@@azuredragon9276 Pray for Gotham City. 😔
He really isn’t manipulating them, he straight up told him his intentions and gave them the opportunity to talk him out of it.
Considering Joker’s whole thing is trying to corrupt others minds into madness this is a great way to translate that into a comedic series
Joker has a better connection to his own family than his nemesis does with his sons
This should be top comment 😅
oh you mean the guy whose family he killed and who's sons are mostly dead because of joker's attempts to kill them? Yes, naturally one of those people would be worse off than the other.
I am so glad joker is going back to crime with his family’s support and their not just erasing all of his character growth completely. This show made the joker actually interesting in a fresh new way.
Good to have the old Joker back!
Yep maybe bad for Gotham but good for all of us >:3
But we liked the good Joker, he seemed to have a happy ending
@@fictionverse7292 Yeah
This isn’t the old joker. This is a new and improved joker.
I mean with the American Healthcare system, his family medical plan sadly makes sense
I love when he says "I'll blow up any hospital who sends us a bill!" All I think about is heth ledger, just such an iconic moment in all of batman, and this was just such a dark funny joke
They leaned into this quickly, I guess that makes sense since throughout the series he had to reign her back as often as vice versa. I just hope he doesn’t end up treating them like he did Harley.
as likely as the show, he actually loved them and care for them and show it in many occasions. I think this could be something like that red skulled villian from the ventur borthers from adult swin, but now the family with him.
A lot of aspects of this show do seem to be inspired by The Venture Bros, which is weird because so much stuff from The Venture Bros was based on the DC Universe.@@venezolanoanimatios5863
@@venezolanoanimatios5863oh man Red Death. But to be fair to Red Death, villany is his literal job and once he gets the opportunity he retires from "Arching" for the sake of his family.
@@CptPhilippnes fiar, but agian, his wife knows, and she is supportive about it, the idea is not having the whole family but mostly that idea of them being aware and supportive of it
@@venezolanoanimatios5863ha! He never loved Harley
Well I knew it was a matter of time he changed his family 😂 although it’s nice to see the family all together joining his insanity
Honestly it’s kinda wholesome but in a twisted way that Joker doesn’t need to use his laugh gas to fuck them up to be like him, they’re already fucked up enough to support him internally already lol
I love how Joker's family nails the deranged evil laughter within seconds of deciding to join him.
I love how the first question she asks is "what about our health insurance?" I love crazy fictional shenanigans mixed with mondaine normal adulting
Probably more effective to go after the insurance companies - they're the ones inflating the bills.
Also, the mom is ultra petty and I'm here for it 😂
I actually appreciate that she had realistic concerns like health insurance and shit before going in fully. Supportive but also making sure he thought it through.
I'm not sure which idea I find scarier: the thought that Joker's madness is contagious and if you spend too long around him you start to act like him, or that any random group of people is just a tiny push from embracing his behavior whole-heartedly.
Both are equally bad
I like to think his family is just made/destined for him, so they're on his wavelength. They weren't all that normal deep down inside. (I mean, would a normal single mom want to be with a recent ex-villain?)
Let's all admit that this is cute and entirely wholesome! He sat them down and told them of this big decision and they fully supported him. Villainous family goals.
Still one of the healthiest families on TV.
Such a supportive family : D Love seeing them accepting him and his old life-style
I knew reformed joker couldn't possibly last
Lasted longer than I expected though
he could still be mayor though, evil mayor.
@@shilohhighland6716 True
@@targetseekerstill better than most mayors out there
@@targetseekerGotham’s had a lot of those.
-so whats your origin story?
-there was a cashier who never told me to have a nice day
This could actually make for a good wholesome yet dark comic series.
Like a weird take on The Visions.
Of course, leave it to the Joker of all people to convince an entire family to engage in villainy.
The best part, he didn't convince them, he let them know about his life choice and they jumped in at the idea 😂😂 in a fucked way, that is pure love and support
People that follow the Joker just love the madness of it.
What a nice supportive family
He definitely won the lottery with these guys
It's nice to see the Joker's family supporting him, in this major life changing event.
I don't watch this series, but have always found what it's doing different very interesting. I hope that this is just a relapse and Joker realizes either that he's changed too much to be a hardcore villain anymore, or that his family means too much to him to drag them down.
Glad he found people just as evil as he is, apparently. Which also probably means that if he ever tries something against them, he's gonna be in trouble more than with Harley.
This is both heartwarming and hilarious at the same time
LOL. Joker did find the Perfect family.
They support him and back him up.
Again, that's what makes his character so unexpectedly chaotic and interesting.
He's a literal agent of chaos, and he is a man who prefers to have his life be multiple choice.
His origin story, his decision making, the life he lives, the people he loves or hates.
He'll make any decision he fucking once if he fucking feels like it.
I really/seriously can't tell if this is heartwarming, wholesome, or horrifying? Cus Joker bad already but a Joker Family is something new. (huh? Joker Family, that sounds kinda cool in a weird/messed up way)
I’m already thinking of names for them!
Wife:Queen of Hearts
Daughter:Princess of Diamonds
Son:Ace of Spades!
@@ArmiGirl90 Too Royal Flush gang yo. Joker's a Clown, think clown themed names with Circua chacters along a bit of Royal Flush gang themes (Or no royal flush ganng, your call)
@@luthelightbringer3833 Was there a clown family in the DC comics that could reference it?
@@ArmiGirl90 Unless you count the 3 Jokers as a "family" then no
@@luthelightbringer3833 Huh, guess not, oh well, hope to see their villain outfits!
They seem like a wholesome family! They really love each other and participate in activities together. It's clear that the dad is happy to back up his wife and children and help them out with the challenges they are facing in their day-to-day lives, no matter how big or small.
They're laughing now, but when the batfamily throws them to prison
I love the Joker's family and mayor arc. I didn't really care much about comics and extended universe/multiverse stuff until Harley Quinn. It's a good demonstration of how new stories can still be made with these characters.
0:50 Reminds me of that episode of SpongeBob where he started laughing with The Strangler😂
Looks like Batman is not the only one with a family who encourages his work
This is surprisingly one of my favorite versions of joker.
what a lovely family
Awww! They all love each other!! Also love how one of them snorts while they laugh
The interesting thing is, from everything we've seen Joker has been a good influence for the most part, which means the dark side of his family was always there...
The definition of “aren’t you tired of being nice all the time? Don’t you just wanna go apeshit?”
Awwww a family that schemes together stays together
Do it Joker. Do it!!! HOORAY!!!!!!
I figured he wouldn't stay "good", but I'm more surprised that he's still valuing his family, let alone keeping them alive. It's kinda respectful and wholesome, in a way.
best part about this joker is that despite going back to villainy he would dive across the table if one of his kids was about to fall off their chair
I like how he looks at his wife before saying yes to his kids
I feel like whatever chemicals drove Joker mad are discretely contagious.
Anyone in his close proximity too long develops the same crazy as him.
I feel like the kids got their crazy from their mom, who has exhibited homicidal tendencies before this.
Honestly, good for him. He's got a supporting family that he's willing to go above and beyond for
i have zero context for this season, but i really hope joker actually cares about them as much as he's shown in past seasons, and that he doesnt treat her like he did harley now that she's joining him in crime
I like how bro's family just accepts and follows him in choices it would make Batman proud(and I'm proud our little clown prince of crime is home)
Joker really found his true ride or die family
And im envious as hell
This is actually wholesome
They are literally becoming The Addams Family.. and I love it!!!
This is wholesome in a *evil* way.
And I love it!
This shouldn't feel like a wholesome supportive family moment, yet here we are, kinda.
A "More for lex" is crazy😂 0:39
Joker has the best and funniest lines in the show especially the electric car one just perfection of a joke in such a slightly hidden gem
Guess Joker's laugh is that contagious. I mean, socially.
Bethany always had that streak in her… but the kids? 😭 omg this is so evil but so wholesome at the same time
I think I know where this is heading. Once he reveal he is evil it will create a sad storyline drama that cause strife in the family he came to lo- oh, wait they are into it and happily join in on his villainy.
Well that’s a subversion
He's getting good at this - he just did what took him years to do to Harley to a family of three in a matter of seconds 🤣
Why is this somewhat … wholesome 😂
Very wholesome family bonding.
I absolutely LOVE this 😂 I was hoping they’d become a wholesome villain family since day one!
I love how so on-board the family is with villainy. It's brilliant! I can't wait to the Joker Family in action.
I am so happy for him. This is real family love right here!
This is the closest we're gonna get to a new Cesar Romero type Joker, so I won't complain.
Joker has literally better relationship with his adopted family here than Batman.
Why is this so damn wholesome?? Lol
The Joker can never be good even with a family
But can be good to his family.
@@spiderjedi0142 That's true if he doesn't decide to treat them like he treated Harley
@@nightslayer6951 Their a episode where he shows how loyal he is to his family so I think they should be alright.
@@spiderjedi0142Joker and Loyal don't fit in the same sentence.
@@noname-oq8ey it's weird I know
I like how his first act in his return to villainy is stealing soft serve ice cream.
Honestly this is the most non toxic relationship I've ever seen the Joker in
I'll give them credit - I really thought the family was toast after he reverted.
I actually understand the mom and her kids: In Gotham City of Harley Quinn you're either a super villain, a super hero, or super f***ed.
"who wants to go steal a soft serve?"
Imagine if every place they go to have the ice cream machine down.
Honestly, the idea of The Joker having an evil family team sounds hilarious and fun.
Here we see that despite his reputation, joker actually cares about his family. His first crime back into villainy is stealing soft serve (which benefits his children) and he holds off on turning and instead giggles manically until his wife approves. Based family man joker.
Batman... You F up Big this time. Now we got a Family of Villans now.
Honestly, so long as the family dynamic stays bizarrely wholesome, I'm pretty okay with this.
0:29 “The Dark Knight” reference
This was so wholesome 😭
All it takes is one bad day... Or a few annoying moments while also having Joker treat you well as a family member. The Joker will corrupt, regardless of what he's doing.
The Joker Family! *Snap snap*
The music doesn't realize how wholesome this is.
At least they are proud and supports him!