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I cannot overstate how thankful I am to have found this workflow and template. Its been a few months now, and I am consistently making progress understanding it and utilizing and performing with it - and it has been a miracle. Like, that might sound crazy to people, but for so many years I have been trying to make and play live music starting with guitar, then singing and playing guitar, then DAWs and midi, then hardware - and nothing has ever satisfied me enough. I always wanted more and more creative freedom. I guess the word to describe it is “orchestrate” - I wanted to orchestrate the sounds and music I had in my head but couldn’t get them out right. Elektron changed that, and then your work here took that to a whole new level I did not think was actually possible. Thank you Matt! I’m so glad I can support you and repay you through Patreon and Kofi.
So inspiring. I have so much to learn. It’s nice be be able to watch these Octa videos and actually follow / understand what you are doing. I guess that means learning is actually happening. Nice work.
Holy heck, I feel like this may have solved some of the volume issues I was having integrating my MachineDrum and my modular, plus this is lovely template. Thanks for the tutorial~!
I've been making music with my DT/DN to try and create this sort of feel with the Control All feature, this has definitely sold me on the OT! Thank you for this amazing video!
Thank you so much! This is coming at an absolutely perfect time, since i just bought an Octatrack last week with the goal to do exactly what you're explaining here and i was a bit stuck on my own.
Pretty awesome! Can’t wait to get my OT in a few days. This gave me some great workflow ideas on how to integrate it with my MD UW+, Deluge and DM12 ..
Very well done! Clear, concise and practical. Among the best I’ve seen. I finally was able to get a mk1. I really wish you were doing tutorials for those. Though I’m pretty sure I can attain the same results. This is definitely the configuration I’m aiming for. Thanks Matthew! Can’t wait for your next one.
I wish I had a MK1 as well but just so that I could keep it in my car haha. That way I always have an OT with me! You can definitely get these exact results with the OTMK1
Yeah I bet, ha ha ha... I got a really great deal on it. Everything works great; but there are 3 fricken beard hairs under the screen protector. Weirdest thing I’ve ever seen on a piece of gear. It looks like someone was stroking their beard after soldering something and the put it back together without blowing it off! Man i hope it’s beard hair... anyway I hope you’ll record your set and post it for us.
Thanks Mathew, really fricken' cool....This Tutorial I will be studying over and over again... I'm just starting to sync these three machines together, this will be so much helpful with the process. Again.... thanks so much!
Nice video man. Maybe one of the best Octatrack tutorial videos I've seen. My OT has been sadly collecting dust for a while (mostly because lack of time, not lack of love!) This video is inspiring me to get back into it though! Cheers... Subbed!
That is so smooth and hot! I just got my OT not long a go and have been wanting to see how someone creates the magic on this device. I see again that I have made a good investment. It just seems like a lot to learn but if you don’t start you will never get there, right? Thank you for producing this video. Your explanations are so clear but I just have to learn more of the programming side of it. I have never seen someone use the “neighbor” feature. I’m just connected to the OB-6 and Analog Four. Trying to wrap my head around it!
@@EZBOT_ My target is minimised noise level an boost input signal to maximum. Conected are Digitone and Digitakt. OT output is recorded in Akai MPC Live. I cant reach more then -8db o output if I want record with low level of octatrack output noise level. Thank you.
Too good 👍👍 Actually Three good 😝🤣 Need to see this thrice more to master the settings. Another masterpiece in the trickery of Elektron, and we learn so much more. 👍👍👍👍👍 Thank you Mattew
Awesome work and thanks for sharing! I’ve only been an OT user for like a month and this video is like a quiz. Every step that you layout forces me to ask “why was that done and what is the consequence of that”? Thanks for this!!!
Great tutorial EZ! Can’t wait to put it to use. Well I’m set on the Octatrack. Definitely the perfect set up for me in combo w/ the Digitakt. Live remixing, crossfader, nuff said after getting comfortable w/ the Digitakt.
Need some help) when I crossfade from live DT version to recorded version, recorded version goes offbeat for some milliseconds. Could you please give an idea what might be wrong. All the settings seem to absolutely same🤷♂️
Hey :) check your LFO’s, Start position in your SRC page, and retrig. All of those settings should be at their lowest value, if not it will cause an issue with timing
This video was really helpful, just diving into the Octatrack and this is helping me get an idea of how I can utilize its potential. Quick question about arming recording while a track is playing. It works perfect when you first begin the track but when I try to record a new loop mid jam the tracks start recording as soon as armed and then it gets out of time? Did I miss a setting that would avoid this?
Instead of having a dígito e and a Digitakt going through the OT can I have 2 turntables? Or 2 sp404 kind of like a dj mixer? What would be the best way to set up the OT to do this?
Thank you, very heplful. You sometimes read that the octatrack sounds 'flat', so that its not ideal to route audio through. What do you think, is this true?
Yeah we can chat on there or you can join the discord and ask the Octatrack channel. When it comes to this in particular I typically recommend a private lesson. It’s very difficult to communicate these things without a video call.
OK, I missed the live AB / recorded CD vs recorded AB / live CD situation after several runs through. And having nothing on CD yet didn't help. It's beginning to sink into my thick OLD skull slowly. Initially kinda nothing worked right. And I do think I have some improvements in gain staging to do. The trouble is the number of places where a level gets set. I have done pretty well with Eurorack so far, but this a whole other layer of complexity. I may try the Strymon pedal interface this weekend.
Thank you for the clear and concise tutorial. Ive got it all set up, but am experiencing a lot of audio pops and clicks when releasing the freeze delay. Is there a way to avoid this?
@@EZBOT_ yeah, not during the freeze delay, but when I release the delay and it catches back up with what’s playing it’s an audible clic at times. I know that happens because of the difference in audio amplitude between the delay and what’s playing, and likely because When I press the freeze delay sometimes it’s not exactly at a zero crossing. I was hoping the octatrack had some auto fade features or an envelope to adjust the attack of the original audio when the freeze is released.
@@perruschke6691 honestly, I'd have to see it to know why. There are many reasons it could be acting weird. Could even be that you need to recalibrate your crossfader but it's likely a small user error.
followed this video several times and am still struggling... somehow my recorded flex tracks are either just DC, or occasionally a bunch of rhythmic noise. am I missing a setting, or are my recording buffers somehow broken?
I follow your instruction very good tutorial thanks a lot but when i choose a loop play by track 4 the sound is like a flanger or something echo on it is that true that your method only work with input ab and cd and no internal samples ?
It works on internal samples as well. In the video arming track 7 will record the master track. That will work fine for samples, I do it all the time with zero issue. Feel free to join the discord, looks in the description. Lots of OT users there of course that includes myself
@@EZBOT_ Thanks a lot i solved the problem by myself you must activate the level to minimum in the amp page then the overlayed sound dont exist anymore
As an OT-Beginner I really ask myself how on earth did you learn all that? I mean, even after reading all 3 manuals ( elektron, merlins guide and synthdawg) I´m still having a hard time to figure out what to do..! Especially when it comes to (re)sampling, there are so many different ways to initiate a recording! I see you mostly use record trigs and then activate the relative track, I saw Messy Desk just hitting YES two times, while Ricky Tinez only hits the REC 3 Button, without any record trigs..! I´m just glad to already know the Digitakt, otherwise I would be pretty lost haha
Great tutorial: considering becoming your patreon, very good work allover. Only negative of this setup (I would do it in conjunction with A4 and RYTM) is that you don' t have any tracks left for sample loading/mangling on the octa.......
Is there any reason why this wouldn't work if I did not use the Neighbor tracks (and just put the Freeze Delays on the Thru tracks)? I am considering not using the Neighbor tracks in this set up to free up 2 tracks for sample loops. Do you use the Neighbor tracks so you can apply more FX to the Thru tracks?
I was going to ask the very same question! im going to use this set up but add an Analog 4, so 3 devices instread of 2. Thanks for the brilliant video Matthew. I understood an Octatrack Tuto!!! yeah!!!!!
Am I better served by connecting the OT to my WMD Perf Mixer effects loop, or is the voltage/impedance better matched to connecting with my Strymon pedal interface? It seems to work fine as-is, but I'm collecting opinions.
Now that is a good question. The impedance will be better matched on the strymon for input but you’ve brought up a few good points. Gonna have to think on it. You should join the discord, link should be a pinned comment or in the description of any of my videos
Hi! First of all thanks for the tutorials and videos, they're incredible. I was wondering why are you using neighbor tracks instead of using the freeze delay directly in the thru track's effects. Same goes for the resample tracks, that could record the audio directly from the thru tracks. ¿Am I wrong to think so? Thanks again for the help.
I chose the the NEIGHBOR tracks because I wanted the end of the chain. I want to be able to resample or freeze the audio after I have affected it with whatever effects I have chosen. Putting it before the NEIGHBOR track would limit me to the effects on the THRU track.
On 5:22 you say that to make sure that the track scale needs to match the master length. I guess there is is step missing before which is to activate the Scale per Track with FUNC+PTN. On the video you only do that for Track 5. Do I need to set Track 6 and 7 to 64 too? Note that when I extend the tracks to 64 steps after putting a trigger on the first step of the track 1, 3, 5, 6 and 7. the OT puts a trig on every new page created (at the beginning at 2:4, 3:4 and 4:4) Is this how is it supposed to be or only at 1:4?
Great tutorial! I'm trying to work with a similar setup but I have analog rytm mkII and Analog four mkII instead of digitakt and digitone. In my scenario do you think I should use the Rytm for master clock?
Very good video. I have one question. If I want use Octatrack arrangment...... Do I need a midi thru hub, setting octatrack like master and Digitone, Digitark like slaves ? Thanks
If you want to use the "Arranger" in the OT you need to use it as the master. You do not need any hubs. Using the arranger will alter this setup dramatically and it will no longer function in the same way. You can still use all the affects but the idea of "live resampling" is to have no boundaries. Though there is a feature in the OT arranger that allows you to loop a segment infinitely or until you want to move forward manually.
One question: is it possible to have digitakt plugged in digitone then out to A/B and then my eurorack plugged to C/D for more flexibility and the octatrack becoming the full control instrument? Thanks for this cool video
This is such a cool video but have followed it like 4 times now part by part and cannot get this to work. I have the OT set as the master for an A4 (inputs A-B) hooked up through midi and a 404 (C-D) not hooked up through midi. Everything appears to be recording and does so when I slide the fader over on the master scene. When I try to ad hi hats or something it pops up right away no matter which side the fader is on or the scene. Mind you I have set up a new project with just this as I was hoping to have just an mixer type template that I could refer back to. IDK, I think it has something to do with the scenes.
You can get the template off my Patreon (patreon.com/ezbot) This video does work 100% though. You are also welcome to sign up for lessons via ezbot.live and we can really talk about it :)
Was just wondering if theres a reason you use one shot recorder trigs instead of QREC? What do you think of using qrec instead for this kind of scenario?
Ok, so I got myself an Octatrack mk2… been playing n studying hard for a week now, so I can better understand these excellent instructional vids. After a first viewing, I can summarize my take home as “Octatrack… blah blah blah…” I can’t figure how nearly 12 minutes of my life went by like somebody’d spiked my coffee with amyl nitrite… well…. man is this some complex stuff. I was happy just getting my old Emax samples in there and mixing them in with live guitar, mics and synths in C/D, and a Black box taking in the cued mix and mixing it out to inputs A/B. Really, two scientific degrees and programing skills, and it still makes me feel braindead…wasn’t enough to have a vintage Gibson and a wonderfully patient wife to make feel like a total meritless idiot… nooooo… The masochist in me had to get an Octatrack… And man do I love it! Thanks for your exceptional efforts with these vids, I will try harder!!!
Great video! Just out of interest, with the latest updates for the Octatrack, would you change anything in this set up? Also, how (if possible) would I go about introducing a MIDI keyboard to the DN with this suggested setup?
Most Octatrack tutorials have so much filler material and just either too meandering and slow or too fast. This was perfect on every way. I just have to do some workarounds though as I have an mk1.
First off thanks so much for your videos. I’d be completely lost with the OT w/o them. Question. I’m trying to set this up. I think I’ve got it working pretty good. But how often do you have to re activate (track + yes) the recording buffers ?
Hi, thanks for the video. Got the octatrack cuz of that great explanation and cuz i needed a mixer like that to be portable. One question since i am quite new to the OT and couldn’t find any answers yet: Is it possible to record the crossfader scene movements (to a track)? Have my rytm plugged in and XVol Scene fading with a few triggs on the recording creates epic breakbeats in no time. Would like to have that recorded / or maybe even automated with lfo’s?
@@EZBOT_ thank you so much for your quick response! Feel bad about spamming but you are the expert: is there a way to avoid the slight volume drop when having the slider on the centre position and listening to the live input + recording? The signal sounds weaker than on the A/B Slider position and I haven’t seen you resting the slider in the middle. Thanks again :)
Man. I must be doing something wrong. I've got all of this working as you described, but my loops always pop at the beginning. Tried messing with the FIN parameter but it makes it so the initial transient is lost. Any ideas?
Hey Matthew, nice vid. Thanks a lot. I´m using OT in a similar way with my Vermona DRM and a little Modular. Is there a way to record the main before the T8 efx, so i don´t need to include these into the scenes? Basically i have the main structure of my set in the OT and want to avoid mistakes when playing live... This could also be useful for long oneshot sounds...
Hmmm that is a tricky question, you could send everything to the CUE outs except for track 8 and record the CUE outs. Just make sure you dont set the CUE out as CUE mutes Track.
@@EZBOT_ Thats a pretty strong idea! THX again... I will try this one ! BTW Did you notice some loss of depth when fading from the analog to the recorded signal? Its very little but noticeable... just wondering if every unit behaves like this. Thanks again, you´re chief
@EZBOT I´m triggering a kickdrum at audio track with the Miditrack im using for the Vermona kick. So its easy to layer kicks on top of the drumsynth and don´t even have to worry about when playing live (if you carefully prepare your midi pattern). Every time I´m entering a trig at the corresponding midi track, kick samples get triggered from the values chosen at Note 2/3/4... Didn´t saw this little trick in your videos, so maybe an idea for next episodes...
@@Malle825 that brief moment was the cross point from live to recorded and at the moment we have 2 sounds being faded via the volume, if you do it quickly you really can’t hear it
So far I'm having a couple of issues. I can't seem to make freeze delay work so far at all. The OT is telling me the record memory fills up, even when I reduce to 16 steps. My only external gear is my Eurorack, so I only used "A B" on 1, Neighbor on 2, Flex on 3, Static kick/snare/hat on 5,6,7 and Master on 8. My current project is 32 bpm, so I'm thinking that has a lot to do with the memory running out. BTW, by fader is so "loose" that holding the OT on it's side it will drop to the bottom by itself. Is this normal on the OT? So little felt resistance seems odd to me. It seems to work fine.
@@EZBOT_ Nice. Now to work on understanding why freeze delay is not working. And I'm still not fully understanding the record routing. All in all, not as "complicated" as its reputation.
So while a record buffer is playing back you can use the cue to hear the live version on your headphones? Does it have latency? Or can you actually record a melody in the live cue track and fade into that? I tried doing the same thing in ableton by recording clips, but because of recording latency I couldn’t play along with the track.
@@PatchwerksSeattle I’m going to have to investigate this! 🧐 It seems like the max length was 64/64. I have a 256-step sequencer that needs to play all steps at the same tempo, and have the OT not loop at the 64th step - but play straight through. No pun intended. Thanks for the quick reply!
Thanks a lot for the great video!!! Such a good use of scenes! Did you know you can get to 0 and extreme values by holding function while turning the knobs? I find it super useful!
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This is the most important video I have ever watched
Haha thank you my friend!
This was the clearest, most useful Octatrack video I have ever seen. I"m going to give this a go.
Thank you so much!
I cannot overstate how thankful I am to have found this workflow and template. Its been a few months now, and I am consistently making progress understanding it and utilizing and performing with it - and it has been a miracle. Like, that might sound crazy to people, but for so many years I have been trying to make and play live music starting with guitar, then singing and playing guitar, then DAWs and midi, then hardware - and nothing has ever satisfied me enough. I always wanted more and more creative freedom. I guess the word to describe it is “orchestrate” - I wanted to orchestrate the sounds and music I had in my head but couldn’t get them out right.
Elektron changed that, and then your work here took that to a whole new level I did not think was actually possible.
Thank you Matt! I’m so glad I can support you and repay you through Patreon and Kofi.
Thank you so much for the support :)
We need more Octatrack tutorials like this. It might be the reason not to sell mine. Thank you so much!
Thank you! If you sell your Octatrack it better be to buy a better Ocatrack ;)
Thanks
Glad I found your videos, I have been staring at my Octatrack for a month trying to figure out what to do with it.
Best explanation for using an OT as master in a live setting. Thanks.
Thank you very much!
great vid! I especially like the trick about using conditional trigs to mute every other T when pronouncing "digitakt"
Outstanding. This should be part of Elektron's default material for the Octatrack!
Excellent video - it helped me solve a problem that kept up me up for a couple of nights! Thank you!
That's so slick! This is exactly the way I'd want to use the Octatrack. I've been itching to get one, but it's depth scares me. This helps a ton!
Happy to hear it!
Spectacular work - clear and to the point. Some videos take 5 times as long to tell you half the amount of info - this one is a keeper.
Thank you for saying that!
So inspiring. I have so much to learn. It’s nice be be able to watch these Octa videos and actually follow / understand what you are doing. I guess that means learning is actually happening. Nice work.
Glad you like them!
Holy heck, I feel like this may have solved some of the volume issues I was having integrating my MachineDrum and my modular, plus this is lovely template.
Thanks for the tutorial~!
This helped clear up the muddy waters of confusion with the OT. Thank you!
I've been making music with my DT/DN to try and create this sort of feel with the Control All feature, this has definitely sold me on the OT! Thank you for this amazing video!
Thank you so much! It really is the missing piece between the two
Thank you so much! This is coming at an absolutely perfect time, since i just bought an Octatrack last week with the goal to do exactly what you're explaining here and i was a bit stuck on my own.
Glad I could help you!
that melody is dope
VERY valuable video ! I have both Digi's and eyeing on Octa exactly from this reason. You made my decision a lot easier ;-)
Really nice; to the point and easy to follow. I did lose you at the live playing of the freeze delays tho.
Many thanks, you just created the most valuable video on this topic for the Octatrack ! It all makes sense now ❤
Oh man, thank you so much!
Pretty awesome! Can’t wait to get my OT in a few days. This gave me some great workflow ideas on how to integrate it with my MD UW+, Deluge and DM12 ..
Very well done! Clear, concise and practical. Among the best I’ve seen. I finally was able to get a mk1. I really wish you were doing tutorials for those. Though I’m pretty sure I can attain the same results. This is definitely the configuration I’m aiming for. Thanks Matthew! Can’t wait for your next one.
I wish I had a MK1 as well but just so that I could keep it in my car haha. That way I always have an OT with me! You can definitely get these exact results with the OTMK1
Yeah I bet, ha ha ha... I got a really great deal on it. Everything works great; but there are 3 fricken beard hairs under the screen protector. Weirdest thing I’ve ever seen on a piece of gear. It looks like someone was stroking their beard after soldering something and the put it back together without blowing it off! Man i hope it’s beard hair... anyway I hope you’ll record your set and post it for us.
@@rrrobart9 I will for sure do that :)
Thanks Mathew, really fricken' cool....This Tutorial I will be studying over and over again...
I'm just starting to sync these three machines together, this will be so much helpful with the process.
Again.... thanks so much!
Yeah! I am glad you like it!
Thanks - Super straightforward and clean. Saw this shared on elektronauts and I'm excited to give this a try. Cheers.
Love to hear this, thank you!
would you share the link to the elektronauts thread?
@@el_dani www.elektronauts.com/t/octatrack-tutorial-video-mixer-fx-box-external-remixer/117953
Nice video man. Maybe one of the best Octatrack tutorial videos I've seen. My OT has been sadly collecting dust for a while (mostly because lack of time, not lack of love!) This video is inspiring me to get back into it though! Cheers... Subbed!
Awesome, thank you for sharing that with me!
So cool! A tad over my head for now... but amazing what the OT can do!
That is so smooth and hot! I just got my OT not long a go and have been wanting to see how someone creates the magic on this device. I see again that I have made a good investment. It just seems like a lot to learn but if you don’t start you will never get there, right? Thank you for producing this video. Your explanations are so clear but I just have to learn more of the programming side of it. I have never seen someone use the “neighbor” feature. I’m just connected to the OB-6 and Analog Four. Trying to wrap my head around it!
Super thanks. Can you describe ideal settings for Gain of your inputs and Main Volume output in mixer ? thank you
I don’t mess with this if I can help it honestly. Those settings are completely dependent on what your plugging in and what your plugging out to
@@EZBOT_ My target is minimised noise level an boost input signal to maximum. Conected are Digitone and Digitakt. OT output is recorded in Akai MPC Live. I cant reach more then -8db o output if I want record with low level of octatrack output noise level. Thank you.
The amount of ground you covered in just over 10 minutes is incredible....
Thank you!
@@EZBOT_ Alright, at $3 I couldnt refuse the patreon. You win.
@@idreaminsurfgreen5327 oh wow, thanks! Glad to have you!
Thanks for your cool octatrack tutorials!
No problem!
what are you triggering around 10:40 by various trigs playing with? (without pressing A or B scene buttons)
The freeze delay
This made me rebuy the OT.
The way to use some features of the OT reminds me of fighting game moves. "Hold FUNC and press UP UP, LP, LP, DN, HP to activate recording"
Just like in those games once you get it into muscle memory you can do some sick combos!
And what`s the difference between vol and xvol in 7:58 ? is there a difference between using track level and amp vol and xvol?
Too good 👍👍
Actually Three good 😝🤣
Need to see this thrice more to master the settings.
Another masterpiece in the trickery of Elektron, and we learn so much more.
👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you Mattew
Good to see you, Jo!
Wow. What a perfect video. Thank you
Awesome work and thanks for sharing!
I’ve only been an OT user for like a month and this video is like a quiz. Every step that you layout forces me to ask “why was that done and what is the consequence of that”?
Thanks for this!!!
I love that analogy, thank you for watching!
Great tutorial EZ! Can’t wait to put it to use.
Well I’m set on the Octatrack. Definitely the perfect set up for me in combo w/ the Digitakt. Live remixing, crossfader, nuff said after getting comfortable w/ the Digitakt.
Heck yes! Have fun, Octatrack works best with friends!
Thanks a lot ! The best tuto on OT !
Thank you!
Ok. Officially “Dark Chocolate” now after this vid!
That's what I am talking about :)
@@EZBOT_ man this is the most fun I’ve had on an instrument since learning the intro to Enter Sandman when I was 16 years old.
@@jakeforaker9628 haha that is an awesome thing to hear
Need some help) when I crossfade from live DT version to recorded version, recorded version goes offbeat for some milliseconds. Could you please give an idea what might be wrong. All the settings seem to absolutely same🤷♂️
Hey :) check your LFO’s, Start position in your SRC page, and retrig. All of those settings should be at their lowest value, if not it will cause an issue with timing
This video was really helpful, just diving into the Octatrack and this is helping me get an idea of how I can utilize its potential. Quick question about arming recording while a track is playing. It works perfect when you first begin the track but when I try to record a new loop mid jam the tracks start recording as soon as armed and then it gets out of time? Did I miss a setting that would avoid this?
So amazinggg, thanks for all those precious informations sir!
Absolutely! Glad to be of service ❤️
Getting an OT in 2 days, so excited to try all of this myself!
I am excited for you!
What are your Channels / MIDI settings (Send/Recieve) in all devices?
Instead of having a dígito e and a Digitakt going through the OT can I have 2 turntables? Or 2 sp404 kind of like a dj mixer? What would be the best way to set up the OT to do this?
Can you route just 1 of the digitakt inputs into the octatrack to leave room for a mono synth in this configuration? Love these tutorials!
Absolutely but it would be mono
Thank you, very heplful. You sometimes read that the octatrack sounds 'flat', so that its not ideal to route audio through. What do you think, is this true?
I think it sounds great, you get the best results when you are sampling instead of loading samples- imo.
@@EZBOT_ Thanks! what do you mainly sample? your other synths? or also with a microphone/recorder?
I got lost at the end, couldn't figure out what you were pressing Matt. Does the Patreon subscription allow you to get help on some of these things?
Yeah we can chat on there or you can join the discord and ask the Octatrack channel. When it comes to this in particular I typically recommend a private lesson. It’s very difficult to communicate these things without a video call.
OK, I missed the live AB / recorded CD vs recorded AB / live CD situation after several runs through. And having nothing on CD yet didn't help. It's beginning to sink into my thick OLD skull slowly. Initially kinda nothing worked right. And I do think I have some improvements in gain staging to do. The trouble is the number of places where a level gets set. I have done pretty well with Eurorack so far, but this a whole other layer of complexity. I may try the Strymon pedal interface this weekend.
Thank you for the clear and concise tutorial. Ive got it all set up, but am experiencing a lot of audio pops and clicks when releasing the freeze delay. Is there a way to avoid this?
Hmm. I am not sure what you mean exactly, are the pops while you are doing the freeze delay or afterwards?
@@EZBOT_ yeah, not during the freeze delay, but when I release the delay and it catches back up with what’s playing it’s an audible clic at times. I know that happens because of the difference in audio amplitude between the delay and what’s playing, and likely because When I press the freeze delay sometimes it’s not exactly at a zero crossing. I was hoping the octatrack had some auto fade features or an envelope to adjust the attack of the original audio when the freeze is released.
Nice one! I already did it everything, but i can still hear in scene B the recording and original Sound;// any idea?
At the same volume?
@@EZBOT_ No, the recording ones are more lower than the original Sound
i cant really imagine why it doesnt work, because it makes eveything sense to me and i made it exactly like your video
@@perruschke6691 honestly, I'd have to see it to know why. There are many reasons it could be acting weird. Could even be that you need to recalibrate your crossfader but it's likely a small user error.
@@EZBOT_ calibrating the crossfader? How does it work?
Great vid - quick question how would you integrate one more synth into this ? There’s no more inputs ... best to run DT into DN ?
Run it into the Digitone :)
@@mattpiecora9645 Yep
followed this video several times and am still struggling... somehow my recorded flex tracks are either just DC, or occasionally a bunch of rhythmic noise. am I missing a setting, or are my recording buffers somehow broken?
thank you for the tutorial on the freeze delay!!!!!!
Heck yeah!
really cool demo man! Digitakt is defo my fave!
It's my favorite too! Thanks for watching
A clear and concise way to bring musicality to an obtuse instrument. Thank you EZBOT!
I follow your instruction very good tutorial thanks a lot but when i choose a loop play by track 4 the sound is like a flanger or something echo on it is that true that your method only work with input ab and cd and no internal samples ?
It works on internal samples as well. In the video arming track 7 will record the master track. That will work fine for samples, I do it all the time with zero issue. Feel free to join the discord, looks in the description. Lots of OT users there of course that includes myself
@@EZBOT_ Thanks a lot i solved the problem by myself you must activate the level to minimum in the amp page then the overlayed sound dont exist anymore
As an OT-Beginner I really ask myself how on earth did you learn all that? I mean, even after reading all 3 manuals ( elektron, merlins guide and synthdawg) I´m still having a hard time to figure out what to do..! Especially when it comes to (re)sampling, there are so many different ways to initiate a recording! I see you mostly use record trigs and then activate the relative track, I saw Messy Desk just hitting YES two times, while Ricky Tinez only hits the REC 3 Button, without any record trigs..! I´m just glad to already know the Digitakt, otherwise I would be pretty lost haha
Great tutorial: considering becoming your patreon, very good work allover. Only negative of this setup (I would do it in conjunction with A4 and RYTM) is that you don' t have any tracks left for sample loading/mangling on the octa.......
You could just not use one the neighbor tracks. We would be happy to have you, you should join the Discord and hang with us at the very least! :)
@@EZBOT_ I'm already on discord with/for jay hosking. how so i find you guys? thanks for the reply!
Thanks! Nice tutorial 😎👌. This only sound for headphones, and i try 2 times with the same setting that video. Can you help me?
Not sure what you mean? I think you just need to change what the headphones are listening to. Change it to main outs instead of the CUE?
Kudos for you. Great video.
Is there any reason why this wouldn't work if I did not use the Neighbor tracks (and just put the Freeze Delays on the Thru tracks)? I am considering not using the Neighbor tracks in this set up to free up 2 tracks for sample loops. Do you use the Neighbor tracks so you can apply more FX to the Thru tracks?
That'll work just fine! I just use neighbor tracks so that I can also have a delay or reverb along with freeze delays.
@@EZBOT_ Cool. That's what I thought. Thanks for the replies!
@@prestonhart6685 No problem!
I was going to ask the very same question! im going to use this set up but add an Analog 4, so 3 devices instread of 2. Thanks for the brilliant video Matthew. I understood an Octatrack Tuto!!! yeah!!!!!
Great stuff! Really easy to follow. Thanks!
Thank you so much!
Thanks a lot for such an informative clip. At5:36 what made you turn the trig to one shot trig and disable it and disarm the track ?
I like to be in control of exactly when the record trigs activate.
Am I better served by connecting the OT to my WMD Perf Mixer effects loop, or is the voltage/impedance better matched to connecting with my Strymon pedal interface? It seems to work fine as-is, but I'm collecting opinions.
Now that is a good question. The impedance will be better matched on the strymon for input but you’ve brought up a few good points. Gonna have to think on it. You should join the discord, link should be a pinned comment or in the description of any of my videos
@@EZBOT_ They said go read the manual :-\
Very nice. Thank you for sharing this!
You're welcome!
Super rad. I want to do similar thing but with my Rytm and modular.
Yesssssss. I also love doing that exact set up.
Hi! First of all thanks for the tutorials and videos, they're incredible. I was wondering why are you using neighbor tracks instead of using the freeze delay directly in the thru track's effects. Same goes for the resample tracks, that could record the audio directly from the thru tracks. ¿Am I wrong to think so? Thanks again for the help.
I chose the the NEIGHBOR tracks because I wanted the end of the chain. I want to be able to resample or freeze the audio after I have affected it with whatever effects I have chosen. Putting it before the NEIGHBOR track would limit me to the effects on the THRU track.
@@EZBOT_ That's what I thought. Thanks for replying and keep up the good the work!
@@mateowalschburger3893 Totally and thank you!
On 5:22 you say that to make sure that the track scale needs to match the master length. I guess there is is step missing before which is to activate the Scale per Track with FUNC+PTN.
On the video you only do that for Track 5. Do I need to set Track 6 and 7 to 64 too? Note that when I extend the tracks to 64 steps after putting a trigger on the first step of the track 1, 3, 5, 6 and 7. the OT puts a trig on every new page created (at the beginning at 2:4, 3:4 and 4:4) Is this how is it supposed to be or only at 1:4?
Yes, you want all the FLEX tracks to be 64 steps with only a RECORD trig and a PLAYBACK trig on step 1. Does this answer your question?
EZBOT yes thanks. What about the Scale on DT and DN? Do they need to be 64 (same as OT) too? Do you need to activate Scale per track ok the DT/DT too?
@@AmorJenhani They do not have to the same, no. Depends on what you are trying got accomplish.
Great tutorial! I'm trying to work with a similar setup but I have analog rytm mkII and Analog four mkII instead of digitakt and digitone. In my scenario do you think I should use the Rytm for master clock?
Very good video. I have one question. If I want use Octatrack arrangment...... Do I need a midi thru hub, setting octatrack like master and Digitone, Digitark like slaves ? Thanks
If you want to use the "Arranger" in the OT you need to use it as the master. You do not need any hubs. Using the arranger will alter this setup dramatically and it will no longer function in the same way. You can still use all the affects but the idea of "live resampling" is to have no boundaries. Though there is a feature in the OT arranger that allows you to loop a segment infinitely or until you want to move forward manually.
One question: is it possible to have digitakt plugged in digitone then out to A/B and then my eurorack plugged to C/D for more flexibility and the octatrack becoming the full control instrument? Thanks for this cool video
Absolutely :)
This is such a cool video but have followed it like 4 times now part by part and cannot get this to work. I have the OT set as the master for an A4 (inputs A-B) hooked up through midi and a 404 (C-D) not hooked up through midi. Everything appears to be recording and does so when I slide the fader over on the master scene. When I try to ad hi hats or something it pops up right away no matter which side the fader is on or the scene. Mind you I have set up a new project with just this as I was hoping to have just an mixer type template that I could refer back to. IDK, I think it has something to do with the scenes.
You can get the template off my Patreon (patreon.com/ezbot) This video does work 100% though. You are also welcome to sign up for lessons via ezbot.live and we can really talk about it :)
Was just wondering if theres a reason you use one shot recorder trigs instead of QREC? What do you think of using qrec instead for this kind of scenario?
Ok, so I got myself an Octatrack mk2… been playing n studying hard for a week now, so I can better understand these excellent instructional vids. After a first viewing, I can summarize my take home as “Octatrack… blah blah blah…”
I can’t figure how nearly 12 minutes of my life went by like somebody’d spiked my coffee with amyl nitrite… well…. man is this some complex stuff. I was happy just getting my old Emax samples in there and mixing them in with live guitar, mics and synths in C/D, and a Black box taking in the cued mix and mixing it out to inputs A/B.
Really, two scientific degrees and programing skills, and it still makes me feel braindead…wasn’t enough to have a vintage Gibson and a wonderfully patient wife to make feel like a total meritless idiot… nooooo… The masochist in me had to get an Octatrack…
And man do I love it! Thanks for your exceptional efforts with these vids, I will try harder!!!
Great video! Just out of interest, with the latest updates for the Octatrack, would you change anything in this set up? Also, how (if possible) would I go about introducing a MIDI keyboard to the DN with this suggested setup?
I wouldn’t change anything honestly. To add a MIDI keyboard the easier way to me is with a MIDI merger.
Very well explained ! Thanks a lot
Of course, thanks for watching!
Most Octatrack tutorials have so much filler material and just either too meandering and slow or too fast. This was perfect on every way. I just have to do some workarounds though as I have an mk1.
Now that’s a compliment :) thanks for the kind words, I have a written version of this for the mk1 on my Patreon somewhere that a Patreon made for me
Excellent information, stated very clearly! As a useless aside, your voice reminds me of Sam Harris.
Really what I needed.... Thanks you
Glad I could help!
Great tutorial. I’m still quite new to OT, so forgive the noob question. What’s the purpose of disarming the record buffers once you’ve set them up?
So I don't accidentally arm then during a show :)
First off thanks so much for your videos. I’d be completely lost with the OT w/o them.
Question. I’m trying to set this up.
I think I’ve got it working pretty good.
But how often do you have to re activate (track + yes) the recording buffers ?
Every time you want a new recording other wise it just loops. Thank you!
@@EZBOT_ OK cool. That makes sense. That small detail had me kinda messed up for a minute. IDK why I thought it was just constantly recording.
Why the neighbour tracks? 😬 is it just to get bigger effect chains or is there some other reason that im missing here?
Yep! That's it 100% for this setup you don't need any more than 6 tracks so the two extra work best as more FX
Hi, thanks for the video. Got the octatrack cuz of that great explanation and cuz i needed a mixer like that to be portable.
One question since i am quite new to the OT and couldn’t find any answers yet: Is it possible to record the crossfader scene movements (to a track)?
Have my rytm plugged in and XVol Scene fading with a few triggs on the recording creates epic breakbeats in no time. Would like to have that recorded / or maybe even automated with lfo’s?
That’s a negative :/ thank you for the kind words!
@@EZBOT_ thank you so much for your quick response!
Feel bad about spamming but you are the expert: is there a way to avoid the slight volume drop when having the slider on the centre position and listening to the live input + recording?
The signal sounds weaker than on the A/B Slider position and I haven’t seen you resting the slider in the middle.
Thanks again :)
i learn so much thks!!!!
Man. I must be doing something wrong. I've got all of this working as you described, but my loops always pop at the beginning. Tried messing with the FIN parameter but it makes it so the initial transient is lost. Any ideas?
Switch the OT to master clock. 100% problem solved, you can also stop using the fade in/out in rec menu 2 if you do this
@@EZBOT_ thanks for the reply. My OT is already the master (unless you mean something else). Slave is an AR.
@@Lokua hmm if that's the case I am not quite sure, I don't have this issue :/
@@EZBOT_ ok well I appreciate the help.
@@Lokua sorry, I am really unsure what is happening
Excellent stuff
Thank you!
Hi EZBOT, that is so of interest, but quit difficult to follow up. Can you write down the steps you do in detail and post it here
There is a text version for the OT MK1 (but you can easily use it for the MK2) on my Patreon
Hey Matthew, nice vid. Thanks a lot. I´m using OT in a similar way with my Vermona DRM and a little Modular. Is there a way to record the main before the T8 efx, so i don´t need to include these into the scenes? Basically i have the main structure of my set in the OT and want to avoid mistakes when playing live... This could also be useful for long oneshot sounds...
Hmmm that is a tricky question, you could send everything to the CUE outs except for track 8 and record the CUE outs. Just make sure you dont set the CUE out as CUE mutes Track.
@@EZBOT_ Thats a pretty strong idea! THX again... I will try this one ! BTW Did you notice some loss of depth when fading from the analog to the recorded signal? Its very little but noticeable... just wondering if every unit behaves like this. Thanks again, you´re chief
@EZBOT I´m triggering a kickdrum at audio track with the Miditrack im using for the Vermona kick. So its easy to layer kicks on top of the drumsynth and don´t even have to worry about when playing live (if you carefully prepare your midi pattern). Every time I´m entering a trig at the corresponding midi track, kick samples get triggered from the values chosen at Note 2/3/4... Didn´t saw this little trick in your videos, so maybe an idea for next episodes...
@@Malle825 that brief moment was the cross point from live to recorded and at the moment we have 2 sounds being faded via the volume, if you do it quickly you really can’t hear it
Cool technique! Thanks for sharing!
You're welcome!
So far I'm having a couple of issues. I can't seem to make freeze delay work so far at all. The OT is telling me the record memory fills up, even when I reduce to 16 steps. My only external gear is my Eurorack, so I only used "A B" on 1, Neighbor on 2, Flex on 3, Static kick/snare/hat on 5,6,7 and Master on 8. My current project is 32 bpm, so I'm thinking that has a lot to do with the memory running out. BTW, by fader is so "loose" that holding the OT on it's side it will drop to the bottom by itself. Is this normal on the OT? So little felt resistance seems odd to me. It seems to work fine.
Try turning on Dynamic recorders in the project settings
@@EZBOT_ Nice. Now to work on understanding why freeze delay is not working. And I'm still not fully understanding the record routing. All in all, not as "complicated" as its reputation.
thank you for quality tutorial...Would this apply to octa MK1?
It sure would!
So while a record buffer is playing back you can use the cue to hear the live version on your headphones? Does it have latency? Or can you actually record a melody in the live cue track and fade into that?
I tried doing the same thing in ableton by recording clips, but because of recording latency I couldn’t play along with the track.
Zero latency!
@@EZBOT_ I guess that’s the benefit of using hardware, instead of software
@@FuZZbaLLbee Octatrack had some pretty slick features for sure
Is this technique limited to only 64-step patterns?
Nope!
@@PatchwerksSeattle I’m going to have to investigate this! 🧐 It seems like the max length was 64/64.
I have a 256-step sequencer that needs to play all steps at the same tempo, and have the OT not loop at the 64th step - but play straight through. No pun intended.
Thanks for the quick reply!
in 5.26 sec. how set the master track to 64 ? sorry im new
FUNC + PATTERN to change to per track scaling. FUNC + PAGE than use the arrow keys to move to the master and change the length
Thanks a lot for the great video!!! Such a good use of scenes!
Did you know you can get to 0 and extreme values by holding function while turning the knobs? I find it super useful!
I did know that! :) you can also press down on the encoder and turn for a similar effect. Thanks for checking out the video!
Matthew at 5:40 you deselected 'AB / CD'. Why did you do this and not turn the encoder to make it blank? Or just show " - "?
How is that different?