Having Gian speak so much in your videos is awesome Benny. He adds a bit of entertainment and light heartedness that wasn’t there in the old videos. Cheers
Good, I'm glad you found what was truly broken now.I got some bad news for you.Time to pull the transmission every time something like that happens.There's damage inside the thave it looked at
Thanks for the great vid Benny. As a mid-late 40 YO car guy, your grunt while picking up the dropped washers was my grunt. Who the hell keeps putting the ground further away, while not making us any taller? It's a conspiracy, I tells ya!!!!!
7:47 Smaller than an Inch in car use would be just fractions of an Inch - down to Thousandths of an Inch (feeler guages). There is the 3 barleycorns thing, but I've never seen it used in car manuals - although the oldest manual I used was only 1955. Metric based on the metre goes centimetre (hundredths of a metre) and Millimetre (thousandths of a metre). Below that is Micrometre (millionth of a meter). I never knew micrometres existed until I supported computers in a lab 20 years ago - before that I would use metric down to 1mm, then swap to thousandths of an inch haha. It was a joke in our family to use both measurements together 3" 2mm etc when working out gestimations on projects. That broken diff part needs to go onto the 'wall of learnings' 😆When my parents raced in the 80's - they had their 'first rod to go through the block' plated and mounted on to a wooden mount with '1986' engraved on it. First snapped camshaft (1982) - I still have both. The first block that got a rod through it is still down in the shed - I am tempted to make a table out of it - if I ever get round to digging it out. Superb episode as always!
Initially when Gianne (Is that how it's spelt?) 'Robbers' i agreed. I lost it when you asked who the hell is called 'Robber' though. Thanks for the laughs, these ridiculous 'shower thought' chats are hysterical!
8:35 having gone through two engines and a dog box in the last 9 months I can 100% confirm that I don't look at the costs otherwise I would probably give up. 😆
For fine measurements like machining the imperial system literally uses fractions of an inch instead of actually going any smaller. You actually see it in a lot of mechanics tools (1/4", 3/8" drive etc.) but imperial dial indicators will use thousandths or even ten-thousandths of an inch.
Benny already knows that. He's pointing out the difference where metric has millimetres after centimetres, whereas imperial just stops at inches and doesn't have a whole unit any smaller.
Are you going to check the gearbox when you get the diff sorted? Steve morris's car sugar momma broke the diff almost identically to yours before they gave it away and when they were fixing it they reckon you always change the box after a breakage like that because the stresses to it when the diff lets go damages the internals and there will be problems not long after you start racing again.
Is that a no-name China centre section (ProComp/Speedmaster/SCW)? I'm surprised and impressed that it lasted as long as it did. Good choice on going with a Moser centre as the primary piece now.
Thanks for the video. Would it be a good idea to check the pinon after each event? Can you have a few pinions as spares to change, then check the old so this does not happen again?
7:47 it's a grain of barley. Not even kidding. The worst part is that Americans don't know that the imperial system is now metric-based for uniformity.
I had head of grains being used for measurement before, but using them length was new to me. So I looked it up, and you're 100% right. The traditional base unit of the imperial system is the Barleycorn and there are 3 Barleycorns to the inch (which makes a Barleycorn 8.47 mm science). There's also the "line", which is 1/4 of a Barleycorn or 1/12th of an inch (2.12 mm science). In modern engineering, the "thou" (thousandths of an inch) is more commonly used.
@@JimOHalloranthou is only used for machining tolerances. It’s just fractional inches above that, which suck, which is why I switch to millimeters on that scale.
My Grandfather tried to drum into me all the old imperial measurements like chains, perches, pecks and hogsheads. A well-intentioned "You'll need it one day son." My other Grandfather taught me how to handset printing type using a stick like the Gutenberg Bible. Those measurements were in ems and picas. So much obsolete information now.
@@BennysCustomWorks Oh, you are correct and I never said it was perfect, but it was a different time with carb's and HEI ignitions. lol Shoutout from Houston, Texas
If you’re in the US and have a vehicle made in Europe or Asia and the service manual gives you metric measurements, expect to have to translate those into thousandths of an inch for your machine shop. I learned that machinists, at least here in the US, only use thousandths of an inch.
So many comments of people misunderstanding the question of "smaller than an inch". No there isn't one used, in imperial. You get inch, everything else is just a division of it. Way back in the days before there were several other odd ones. My favorite part is all the metric duders dont even realize that you cant have metric without imperial. . . every single ratchet in the world has an imperial based drive.
G'day Benny, need your Expert advice mate please! Need to get a LHF fender and couple of other parts from Florida USA to Melbourne Victoria to repair my crashed barra tank. Any contacts or tips? Finding a freight forwarder is proving to be impossible. Any help greatly appreciated.
We do have measurements smaller than 1 inch and its usually in 10ths or 20ths of an inch. Often it's spoken in fractions like 1/8th and 1/10th of an inch, or a quarter of an inch and half inch. And then for stuff smaller we get down into 10ths and 100ths of an inch like .7 is 7 tenths of an inch (or 1/14th) and .07 is 7 hundredths of an inch. And then when you get into the real small stuff you are looking at .005 thousandths.
Ouch. New paperweight. (In the US) Every car that I've ever had, since 87', has been metric. If you're a car guy, you know metric. A quart is darn near a liter. (Within 5.3%) Well except for Centigrade. 0 freezing, 100 boiling. 2xC+32 gets me close enough to Fahrenheit to make sense of it.
I've bought spag-bols that smelt of old 80W-90 before. Definitely happened multiple times, from multiple establishments. It's weird and always very, very disappointing.
smaller units than Inch - thous (thousandths of an inch) aka mils (if you're an EE), tenths (ten thousandths of an inch), eighths (of an inch), sixteenths (of an inch) or you can use "metricated" inches e.g. 0.125" is an eighth of an inch.
In the machining world the next unit down is the thousandth of an inch (1/1000) or a "thou". Then you get a "tenth" which is, of course, one ten-thousandth of an inch (1/10,000) and not 1/10. You'll never guess what's next. That's right, a "10 millionth"! Of course! Someone painted themselves into a corner with that one. And all this is defined as 1 inch = exactly 25.4mm so it's all pointless lol. Anyway, I'll let everyone in the colonies get on with chewing on their letter-sized drill bits...
imperial sucks(SAE)! here in the USA they think it's the American system LOL. i make a point of reminding folks it's a England's parting gift after we ran then off, twice. Metric freedom units all the way.
Possibly but for the cost of a housing , Frank recommended a new housing. I trust his judgement, he’s been doing driveline repairs and rebuilds forever.
Having Gian speak so much in your videos is awesome Benny. He adds a bit of entertainment and light heartedness that wasn’t there in the old videos. Cheers
I legit, flinched and leaned away from my screen when Benny was talking about Gear oil.
I just did the rear diff oil in my garage (with the door open) and it still smells. And that oil was 45,000 mile oil and not that bad.
Good, I'm glad you found what was truly broken now.I got some bad news for you.Time to pull the transmission every time something like that happens.There's damage inside the thave it looked at
Good to hear damage wasn't as extensive as feared. As usual, loved the banter
Thanks for the great vid Benny. As a mid-late 40 YO car guy, your grunt while picking up the dropped washers was my grunt. Who the hell keeps putting the ground further away, while not making us any taller? It's a conspiracy, I tells ya!!!!!
7:47 Smaller than an Inch in car use would be just fractions of an Inch - down to Thousandths of an Inch (feeler guages). There is the 3 barleycorns thing, but I've never seen it used in car manuals - although the oldest manual I used was only 1955.
Metric based on the metre goes centimetre (hundredths of a metre) and Millimetre (thousandths of a metre). Below that is Micrometre (millionth of a meter). I never knew micrometres existed until I supported computers in a lab 20 years ago - before that I would use metric down to 1mm, then swap to thousandths of an inch haha.
It was a joke in our family to use both measurements together 3" 2mm etc when working out gestimations on projects.
That broken diff part needs to go onto the 'wall of learnings' 😆When my parents raced in the 80's - they had their 'first rod to go through the block' plated and mounted on to a wooden mount with '1986' engraved on it. First snapped camshaft (1982) - I still have both. The first block that got a rod through it is still down in the shed - I am tempted to make a table out of it - if I ever get round to digging it out.
Superb episode as always!
Initially when Gianne (Is that how it's spelt?) 'Robbers' i agreed. I lost it when you asked who the hell is called 'Robber' though.
Thanks for the laughs, these ridiculous 'shower thought' chats are hysterical!
My nose agrees with you Benny! Gear oil smells putrid
So does your mother!
@@drewski5730 she probably would agree with me too! Thankyou for bringing that to my attention 😂
8:35 having gone through two engines and a dog box in the last 9 months I can 100% confirm that I don't look at the costs otherwise I would probably give up. 😆
For fine measurements like machining the imperial system literally uses fractions of an inch instead of actually going any smaller. You actually see it in a lot of mechanics tools (1/4", 3/8" drive etc.) but imperial dial indicators will use thousandths or even ten-thousandths of an inch.
Benny already knows that. He's pointing out the difference where metric has millimetres after centimetres, whereas imperial just stops at inches and doesn't have a whole unit any smaller.
As a transmission tech who works with burned trans fluid all the time, i can confirm burned gear oil is worse 😂
Are you going to check the gearbox when you get the diff sorted? Steve morris's car sugar momma broke the diff almost identically to yours before they gave it away and when they were fixing it they reckon you always change the box after a breakage like that because the stresses to it when the diff lets go damages the internals and there will be problems not long after you start racing again.
Yeh kinda dissed, was looking forward to watching u race that weekend. Next time mate. I love motor racing. I follow a few, Best of luck next race.
Good job Benny Fixing Toyota CRESTA it will be amazing Well Done 👏👏👏👏👏
Is that a no-name China centre section (ProComp/Speedmaster/SCW)? I'm surprised and impressed that it lasted as long as it did. Good choice on going with a Moser centre as the primary piece now.
Great video Benny and Gianne (sp?)
Thanks for the video.
Would it be a good idea to check the pinon after each event? Can you have a few pinions as spares to change, then check the old so this does not happen again?
Smell-o-vision got me.
7:47 it's a grain of barley. Not even kidding.
The worst part is that Americans don't know that the imperial system is now metric-based for uniformity.
I had head of grains being used for measurement before, but using them length was new to me. So I looked it up, and you're 100% right. The traditional base unit of the imperial system is the Barleycorn and there are 3 Barleycorns to the inch (which makes a Barleycorn 8.47 mm science). There's also the "line", which is 1/4 of a Barleycorn or 1/12th of an inch (2.12 mm science). In modern engineering, the "thou" (thousandths of an inch) is more commonly used.
@@JimOHalloranthou is only used for machining tolerances. It’s just fractional inches above that, which suck, which is why I switch to millimeters on that scale.
My Grandfather tried to drum into me all the old imperial measurements like chains, perches, pecks and hogsheads. A well-intentioned "You'll need it one day son." My other Grandfather taught me how to handset printing type using a stick like the Gutenberg Bible. Those measurements were in ems and picas. So much obsolete information now.
@@Simon.the.Likeable For what it's worth, the "em" is a supported and widely(?) used unit in the CSS markup language used for styling web pages.
@FMuscleZ28 The second part of that comment is so vague I dont know what to make of it. Can you clarify a little bit please?
American here. The metric system is better. It’s based off 10s super simple.
Soon as the axel was pulled I could smell it 🤢
Pro-Tip : Old School shock travel sensor = grease pencil
I’d say that’ll only work for compression, most radial cars sit on compression then extend down the track due to suspension geometry
@@BennysCustomWorks Oh, you are correct and I never said it was perfect, but it was a different time with carb's and HEI ignitions. lol
Shoutout from Houston, Texas
@@jameshusband3302 :D I love Houston.
@@BennysCustomWorks I am 10 minutes from Circle D. Cheers Brosef
If you’re in the US and have a vehicle made in Europe or Asia and the service manual gives you metric measurements, expect to have to translate those into thousandths of an inch for your machine shop. I learned that machinists, at least here in the US, only use thousandths of an inch.
So many comments of people misunderstanding the question of "smaller than an inch". No there isn't one used, in imperial. You get inch, everything else is just a division of it. Way back in the days before there were several other odd ones. My favorite part is all the metric duders dont even realize that you cant have metric without imperial. . . every single ratchet in the world has an imperial based drive.
G'day Benny, need your Expert advice mate please! Need to get a LHF fender and couple of other parts from Florida USA to Melbourne Victoria to repair my crashed barra tank. Any contacts or tips? Finding a freight forwarder is proving to be impossible. Any help greatly appreciated.
We do have measurements smaller than 1 inch and its usually in 10ths or 20ths of an inch. Often it's spoken in fractions like 1/8th and 1/10th of an inch, or a quarter of an inch and half inch. And then for stuff smaller we get down into 10ths and 100ths of an inch like .7 is 7 tenths of an inch (or 1/14th) and .07 is 7 hundredths of an inch. And then when you get into the real small stuff you are looking at .005 thousandths.
Benny, you would know thou is a smaller unit than inch, but prolly forgot because it actually sounds bigger. Imperial logic ftw.
Ouch. New paperweight.
(In the US) Every car that I've ever had, since 87', has been metric. If you're a car guy, you know metric.
A quart is darn near a liter. (Within 5.3%)
Well except for Centigrade. 0 freezing, 100 boiling. 2xC+32 gets me close enough to Fahrenheit to make sense of it.
If you dont like the smell of the oil grate up half a cake of sunlight soap add it to the housing! Works on a tractor...
I've bought spag-bols that smelt of old 80W-90 before.
Definitely happened multiple times, from multiple establishments.
It's weird and always very, very disappointing.
I've worked in kitchens where they'd make up literal buckets of bolognese, and it always smelled faintly of vomit to me. (Not as bad as durian though)
To answer your question of what's smaller than an inch, the next unit used commonly is a thousandth.
smaller units than Inch - thous (thousandths of an inch) aka mils (if you're an EE), tenths (ten thousandths of an inch), eighths (of an inch), sixteenths (of an inch) or you can use "metricated" inches e.g. 0.125" is an eighth of an inch.
Wikipedia says thou is the official Imperial length measurement smaller than an inch, but its just thousandths of an inch
Or gaps regarded in cunt hairs...
known as a thou. I am Australian and grew up in the 80s using it for spark plug gaps, points gap and other clearances.
@@paule4204 also known as "mils" if you're an EE ;)
I can smell this video.
Smaller inch is fraction of an inch. I agree metric is better
Barleycorn is a third of an inch, still used in shoe sizes. A poppyseed is a quarter of a barleycorn. Mental, right?
you two should know, 95% of US stuff is made in Metric and stamped in Imperial! but they jam imperial nuts onto imperial threads mostly
Inch -> Thou (Thousandth of an inch) -> Tenth (Tenth, of a Thousandth, of an inch)
1mm is 40 thou
Source: Am English, own Myford Lathe
I prefer the logical Metric over "Standard"
Hopefully the transmission is okay :/
Cherry is a brand of switches/sensors. Most people would know the brand because of clickity-clacky keyboards
In the machining world the next unit down is the thousandth of an inch (1/1000) or a "thou". Then you get a "tenth" which is, of course, one ten-thousandth of an inch (1/10,000) and not 1/10. You'll never guess what's next. That's right, a "10 millionth"! Of course! Someone painted themselves into a corner with that one.
And all this is defined as 1 inch = exactly 25.4mm so it's all pointless lol.
Anyway, I'll let everyone in the colonies get on with chewing on their letter-sized drill bits...
I associate good times with the smell of gear oil. Older the better
Well they use 1/1000 1/8th 1/4 1/2 of an inch
just grab a new battery for the laptop, very easy to replace.
A thou :)
Yes, I know that gross smell.
Finally you made a episode that stinks☺
72 points to an inch, 16 Picas to an inch, 72 Picas to a Foot, no one knows that though
a thou
Moist
And I was just about to enjoy a chocolate bar 🤮
imperial sucks(SAE)! here in the USA they think it's the American system LOL. i make a point of reminding folks it's a England's parting gift after we ran then off, twice. Metric freedom units all the way.
Fractions to decimal or inches to fractions. It seems we Americans still have a foot fetish 😂
I know that smell
Foot inch thousandth of an inch cm mill . Of a mill
I’m shitting to this 🎉🎉
Gear oil 🤮
Which came first the chicken or the egg...i ate the chicken and then i ate the egg... why is the penis measured in inches?....
Flanged axles. 🤮
A good machine shop would be able to tig weld the bearing hole and machine it back out to the correct size
Possibly but for the cost of a housing , Frank recommended a new housing. I trust his judgement, he’s been doing driveline repairs and rebuilds forever.
Great video Benny and Gianne (sp?)