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Mongolian also has braids, Tibetan also have braids. For and for white people northern eroupean Vikings also have braids culture. Braids are absolutely NOT only for black culture
Most of southeast Asia has braids
And just because ALL races, eat ramen and do what asians do does this mean Asians invented NOTHING and are just greedy for credit? No, of course you'd think thats entirely stupid, racist and cyclical thinking for anyone to apply just as you are applying that to black people in this case. Just remember all humans came from an African, so realize how silly it sounds of you, and be glad you're wrong because they could say EVERYTHING is from them if you were right about speaking broadly, but are OBVIOUSLY focused on traditionally associated manners of tradition invented by them despite their globalization.
Yes! Exactly! Im central asian and in my culture, we have braids thousands and thousands and thousandssss years and i love wearing them too bcuz its part of my culture. But some ppl really acting weird about it like it is just for ONLY BLACK PPL. But it is not?! They dont know it (mostly not open to new info too) and when u tell them, they go mad. And this is such an uneducated move tbh.
Totally agree. I'm Asian and it's feel like we have braids culture but it's all going on backwards. they are stealing title like only African have braids culture Asian don't! Asian can't make Braids.
That’s not what people are saying when we say that non black people shouldn’t where “braids”. When we say that we are speaking of black braiding styles obviously. Styles like box braids, Senegalese twists, Fulani braids, cornrows etc. We know other cultures have braids. If this is the talking point y’all choose, why don’t we see anyone with these braiding variations? Why are they wearing braids from the black diaspora?
I'm tibetan, I wear braids. They are tibetan braids, braids are not exclusive
TIBETAN IS BLACK CULTURE. Nepal has the records: of all of Asia. ask them.
that is why white Asians look un-seasons in native clothing; the original people of ASIA were black. and native colors were design for brown skin compliments
@@cinnamonstar808sure you racists mf
@@cinnamonstar808 Tf are you on? If you wanna be OVERLY TECHNICAL. ALL HUMANS originated from Africa then migrated to different parts of the world. Hence, you're indirectly saying as well that we are all black. Lmfao. So what't the matter with wearing braids? LOL. Your logic is d*mbass.
I am black and I am well aware that braids is a part of Asian culture also. I actually love to see it. Love it on Samurai also. I am probably a weird one, but admiration is a beautiful thing. I do wish we could get passed programmed biases and this incessant fear and just admire, love, and embrace each other. We can all learn so much from each other's life, culture, and traditions. Since I was a young child, I've enjoyed Asians people. As an adult, I was shocked to know some Asians have prejudices and biases toward blacks. Nonetheless, that won't stop my love for Asians and their culture. Oh and without question, the food!!!🙂🙂🙂 Peace, respect, and understanding 💛
Yes it's true. Also, a lot of blacks have biases and prejudices against Asians as well. I've heard black people call Asians "Orientals", "gooks", talk about their eyes, say they all know karate and Kung Fu, etc. It's good to remember that people of all backgrounds have biases, and try to treat people as fairly as possible.
@@felixfungle-bung4688 yeah. It’s sad and unfortunate. I don’t think any person should get a pass for being racist, no matter what your race.
You’re not odd. I enjoy learning and exploring different cultures also because it is the history of Earth! We have so much beauty in all peoples but we tend to let the negatives drive us. I honestly feel Asian cultures are linked to African cultures. Our ancient ancestors moved back and forth between both continents.
@@thestoebz I think we tend to forget that Africa and Asia are continents. There are Africans with the same eye shape as some Asians. Some of the very first tribes, we call them Khoisan today, have those same shaped eyes. Those eye shapes are in my family’s genetic makeup. Cheryl Song (Soul Train dancer) once stated how she got called yellow bone b. Now if you know African American culture this would not offend too much as a light skinned black woman is often called yellow bone or red bone. So the women who said this to her thought she was a light skinned black woman. We as humans tend to find any word to offend one another. As humans, we should stop!
@@thestoebz You saying "blacks" and using an uncapitalized B already says a lot
It's a hair style... I'm black & I don't care. It seems like the only ones who point & scream appropriation are the ones who usually abuse other cultures customs. I really think appropriation should be only tied to things with sacred meanings like native american head dresses being worn by white girls at coachella. Not customary fashion. My white friend was terrified to wear a Cheongsam dress (mandarin collar dress)... it was a classic black dress... why not? Well, she put it back. Meh... my uncle bought one from vietnam for my mother way back. If they sold it to him... do they think he's gonna hang it in a frame? It's a dress, braids were also worn by many other cultures in ancient history. You people need to put that pointer finger in your pockets & stoooooop! What's wrong with appreciating others cultures? How will we ever unite if we fight over stupid things like this?
Typically when someone just say im black they doing that to hide there origin or there black american. So I wonder what part of the world you come from. When blacks talk about blacks from across the world they are generalizing and stero typing black amercans. Don't be a coward say what you mean and mean what you say what you mean. You ain't just black you came from somewhere and your skin color got nothing to do with it. Everybody copies black americans period.
We allow to call it out. Heck people call out stuff on black american but weirdos like you only got smoke from black americas. We realizing now how anti black american the diaspora is.
S/HE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR BLACK PEOPLE or CHINESE PEOPLE.
and her white friend should take off the Cheongsam dress; because her direct ancestors did not care when her people stood on those empirical walls in China.
if s/he is black, Im a old white man.. that paragraph is littered with colonization trope. what no "kimono from bombed out Japan?" 🔥🔥 I thought you have the rest of Patrice Lumumba teeth as a collection from your CIA uncle.
wants unity. ok well sweetheart come with that in 1492 !!!?? " take the braids out" my ancestors, my rules
I cannot go to Macy's and appreciate that Channel lipstick in my bag.👜 You ask for it or you pay for it.
AND YOU HAVE DONE NONE this entire time.
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I was thinking about doing a tiktok on this im black and this is there culture too ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Yes Asians can wear braids!!!
It's human culture
Everyone can wear braids... Try stopping someone fr having braids in their hair... How ridiculous 🙄
@@jasoncarson369 research into the history of braids before saying something like this
@@jasoncarson369 imagine feeling threaten by what she said she literally wrote a kind message and yet you found a way to be negative
@@crypt6c seems YOU need to read some history. Almost every culture for thousands and thousands of years have used braids
Hun...look majority of the people getting "offended" aren't even from Africa i live in Kenya and if you want braids we'll do them for you too The REAL BORN , RAISED AND BRED Africans love sharing this beautiful culture EVERYWHERE The braids existed in Asia too so Noone should tell anyone how to dress or make their hair
but we're the ones she and the entire world trying please not yall, 2. yall might be the Real Raised and Breed but we the ones making all the noise bish. 3. We made other races want braids Not Yall.
The original Africans who live in Africa are not offended. They are cool and loving people. But patent for getting offended at each and every thing is majorly an American thing, in this case an African American thing. Fun fact, many cultures had braids for millennium. Tibetan braids are lit.
@@wcp4jc keep making noise you won't tell noone how to have their hair if someone having braids makes you wanna jump off a cliff be my guest
This convo is tone deaf to the African American experience surrounding hair💀 you’re not even African American you’re Kenyan. You know nothing about the historical policing of black hair which is why we gate keep these hairstyles. The same hairstyles that we get denied jobs for or stereotyped for. Remember that you live in a homogenous society. We don’t. Imagine if African Americans tried to speak on Kenyan history y’all would call us ignorant Americans 💀
@@kev_naughty y’all keep bringing up the fact that other races and cultures have braids, why don’t they wear them? Why do they wear black diasporic ones? No one said that they don’t have their own braiding variations. They always indulge in black ones. And this topic tries to take away that braids are also African American culture and that we contributed to many new styles and innovations of braids.. many of which non black people copy
I was searching for a video that actually talks about asian braids thanks for making it
She explained it so beautifully 😊 I love it so much 😍
Great 🙏🏼 Thank you for speaking up about cultural appreciation. I love your intro “your body and you can do what you want with it “ ❤
tibetan braids go hard
the best!
@@AsianEntertainmentandCulture are Tibetan braids spiritual, like Indian dreadlocks (jaata) !! Just curious
@@rAndOmPie1857 Yes, it is spiritual and social. if anyone (girl or boy) has 108 braids, it means he/she is enlightened or want to be enlightened. According to traditional Buddhism, 108 represents the number of mortal desires of mankind which one must overcome to achieve Nirvana. That's why a mala bracelet or necklace have 108 beads.
In some parts of Tibet, their "everyday" braid is one whole braid. but in some parts of Tibet, one braid means a lady is single and two braids mean they are married.
there are also braids to signify the death of their husband/wife. and many more.
Would you mind sharing about the jaata?
@@AsianEntertainmentandCulture thanks for the reply, however I don't know much about the Jaata but it is spiritual as lord Shiva wore Jaatas, you could see a lot of sadhus wearing jaata in India. I read somewhere that for them Jaata provides a deep spiritual connection as a symbol of closeness to lord Shiva , wearing Jaata also means that how you look to others doesn't matter to you, as I said I still have a lot to learn about these things,
And can you please make another video specifically about Asian braids because a lots of Asian countries have multi-braids hairstyles , even Cambodian culture too, we Asians should know more about these things as the western people always accuses us of cultural appropriation, as an Indian girl I have always loved braids and I wore multiple braids even before knowing about black culture ( I live in a small village so) just few years ago everyone came to know about black culture and now whenever I wear multiple braids people be like "oh you look like the negros" , I respect the reason why black people don't want others to wear their braids, but Asian cultures has multiple braided hairstyles too
@@rAndOmPie1857 i will make a video for each Asian country and their braid history. I think it's just few western people accusing Asians of cultural appropriation and then Asians who want to look "woke" join in. they just talk a lot on Twitter. but for the most part, if you come here in America, no one really cares if you are wearing a braid. but yes, i will do a video on Asian braids. i'll probably start with Tibet.
It’s Cultural ApprECIATION.
VALUING Other people’s Culture.
It’s called Cultural appreciation as long as you don’t go renaming or disrespect the culture. Literally, kids these days scream about cultural appropriation and never cultural Appreciation
But braids are also part of South East Asian culture tho. A lot of aghori babas from India have dreadlocks and walk around. People are not aware of lot of culture esp from Southeast Asia (I personally believe that)
@@nickbrown2113 people also aren’t aware of the hair discrimination in the US and that history
@@LexiNc8284 the world does not revolve around America.
@@LexiNc8284no shit why would a Indonesia person care about hair discrimination in america?
Thanks for the beautiful video and I agree with you in what you say in the video
I really love to wear multiple braids, not just because it's beautiful but also to curl my hair,so after learning about CA(back then I didn't know about black culture, it's not really known in my place) I kinda felt bad, but anyway thanks for this video, I decided to dig deeper into our Asian cultures and found out a lot of Asian cultures with multiple braids hairstyles, like the Cambodian (they are kinda like cornrows),Tajik, Uzbek,Uyghur, Kurdish,Altai ,Kyrgyz ,Khakass and Tartar braids, actually it was pretty interesting to learn about our own cultures , hope to learn more in future ❤️
i use to do that too! my hair is super straight and i always wanted some curls. however, my grandmother told me to never use chemicals in my hair so i would braid them and leave them overnight. but lo and behold, it would curl for about an hour and then stretch again.🙄
@@AsianEntertainmentandCulture I can relate lol, it never lasts long😂😂
@@AsianEntertainmentandCulture My mom did that with me when I was small. But only with freshly washed/wet hair.
@@ruthfischer7615 what?! Omg, my grams used to scare me to death telling me to never sleep with my hair wet or i'll go blind. LOL but she also told me never to use a bow dryer BUT also told me to always take a shower before bed. the struggle is real
@@AsianEntertainmentandCulture Not sure it is good for health but for the wave/curls it worked at least as far as I can remember.
Funnily years later when I cut my long hair I had a natural very strong curl that surprised me.
Overall my hair changed a lot.
Anybody can wear whatever hairstyle they want . Living is free .
Pretty much every culture has braids and variations of these hairstyles. For example, they’re all over Latin American countries and the indigenous cultures/traditions within. No one owns them.
agree!
Yawn
And yet in the comments you still have ignorant persons trying to own braids... It's crazy how some of them need to attack other cultures to feel better.
I'm Asian woman I need to learn my background too🦋❤️
💜 there is so much to learn and it such a beautiful culture
Remember, there are people out there who are so vapid and ignorant about the world that they actually think things like hair braids belong to one group or culture.
The answer is yes any race or culture can wear anything, use any language, enjoy or prepare any of the cuisine from any other culture it wants to. This malarkey of ownership of certain traits from each culture that can only be expressed by that culture is as I said a bunch of malarkey. No one owns any of this and people that cry about it need to get over it.
Yawn
@@LexiNc8284 exactly. These people need to quit crying about appropriation
@@LexiNc8284is this the only thing you can say?
All throughout history people have adopted different styles into their culture. I think it’s beautiful and interesting.
it is. it should unite us instead of divide us
Yes everyone should be able to wear hair the way they want . Unfortunate that people have to feel conscious about what they wear .
Umm wear y’all braids not box braids
@@jyqavonowens5577 I don't see the difference to say the Mangolian braids or Tibetian (if I remember that right). But than I don't know much about braids. I only remember my mom making me small ones as a child with wet hair so I would have wavy/curly hair. Funnily when I cut my hair I suddenly had natual curls.
i'll do what i want with my hair
Most of the older generations of tibetans still wear braids in tibet. Especially in kham Area. Our Tibetan braids looks similar with African ones.
they are beautiful!
BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK!!
@@cinnamonstar808stupid my dog is blacks lol xD . Your mom is asian btw
@@cinnamonstar808🤡
@@cinnamonstar808😂😂😂😂
I always find these discussions about appropriation so depressing. But the pictures she was sharing were really amazing and made me feel blessed to belong to a huge diverse and amazing family on a tiny planet in a ginormous universe.
If you find conversations like this depressing, then a why wats yo time being here. I’m bland conversations like this is not being ignored but she’s light on. Be part of the solution not the problem
sharing cultures is what made the world great. you dont need someone's permission to do something, we're all free people. cultural appropriation people want to gate keep so they can have moral superiority over you. dont let their opinions matter.
no: that is sociopathic thinking. You need someone's permission to take their things! you cannot take land, religion, people or culture without permission.
HUMANS are more than happy to share their culture; (its prideful) but you must give them credit. "ASIANS" got access to black culture because their ancestors were black.
ASIA IS A LANDMASS and nothing else.
As you may have heard -
Imitation is the SINCEREST form of Flattery.
Why not see it for what it is, and take it as a Compliment?
Thank u so much I CSN DO WHATEVER I WANT
Braids are in ALL cultures but the style of braids differ.. Very interesting to see. ❤
Yes I agree. I often wore a French braid.
ALL HISTORY IS BLACK
all braids come from Black culture; all partner dances are Africans. all string instruments are fromblack culture. all drums; all flutes .
horns ; black people got that from angels.
JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR CULTURE ; That does not mean you own it.
Hip hop music is American. Trump is American = Trump do not own rap music. ................. AGAIN
just because you met black people ; you dont own what they own. I feel we keep messing up on this lesson let me ask Africa? ... give me a minute
all the culure or countries they list as wearing braids WHERE ALL BLACK LANDS they walked into. let me ask America
@@cinnamonstar808🤡
@@cinnamonstar808now I know you’re just a troll…or you need an anthropology lesson..
@@PrettyBaby293a racist is more like it. I'm a white American who's almost all Northwestern European with a small amount of Native American. Europeans are direct descendants of Noah's son, Japheth. God started the different races and loves all races. If he is ok with it then everyone else should be. One race didn't start everything on the planet.
Okey, the thing is Mongolian and Tibetan uses the same box braids as black people. Even I heard some black women talking about having "Mongolian wave" or "Mongolian curls/lace" etc.
yes, box braids and dreadlocks and many other styles
@@AsianEntertainmentandCulture box braids are in Asian culture?
I'm Turkish and braids are a massive part of Turkic culture as well. We usually braid our hair in numbers that are multiples of four, like 4 braids, 40, 44, etc. Many Turks including the Yakuts of Russia to the Turkmens of Anatolia and Azerbaijan have been documented historically wearing braids. But ours is a bit different. We don't start braiding directly at the root. We leave our roots loose and start braiding a few cm down the strands. This is also so we can wear our cultural headdresses comfortably. But I'm glad that this topic has been covered.
Im from Uzbekistan. Its a country in Central Asia. Braids are our traditional hairstyle.
We don’t card we wear braids if we want and don’t have to have the approbation to someone else!👍🏻
Why do it matter ,other races love what black people do, we are queens and kings .
Anyone can wear braids
No. their hair should reflect their mentality and not ours
we dont roll that way on EARTH.
War mongrels dont get peace
Criminal dont get freedom
Atheist dont get heaven
People who hate multicultural; dont get to partake in shared culture.
anyONE keyword one. "as one"
𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝕡𝕖𝕠𝕡𝕝𝕖 𝕨𝕙𝕠 𝕒𝕣𝕖 𝕂ℕ𝕆𝕎ℕ 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕟𝕠𝕥 𝕤𝕙𝕒𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕘; 𝕨𝕒𝕟𝕥𝕤 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕡𝕣𝕚𝕧𝕚𝕝𝕖𝕘𝕖 𝕠𝕗 𝕚𝕥.
The people who created race; and reduced humanity down to 🖍color code system.. can go kick their crayola box somewhere else.
[ dont wear our uniform if you never want to be on our team] take the braids out
Yessssss girl preach
black people are crazy lol Africans don’t act like this we love sharing. we are all the same clearly if we go back enough anyway of course we share everything whether we like it or not.
Ma'am you're black too
Y’all don’t have the same history with hair like we do. Y’all come from homogenous societies we don’t. Y’all don’t know what it’s like of course y’all share
@@really8704 black is an american racial obsession term, it has nothing to do with reality.
@@nauticawillis2787 the rest of the world is very diverse, get out and see it and you could let this pattern of thought go. with all due respect you could do it even from youtube.
@@vashposh ok well we don’t live in the rest of the world. We are the minority in a country where our hair has been historically policed that literally can be dated back to slavery. Are you familiar with Tignon laws? I feel like y’all are ignorant to our history and is condescending to the fact that we are not the same people. We don’t have the same experience despite looking the same. So we will continue gatekeeping black braiding styles in America. If y’all share in your African countries that’s totally fine and your business.
Everyone wear braids. Tell the teacher I cam wear braid if your Black tell the employers you can wear braids, if your white tell your employer you can wear braids, if your Asian tell you can wear braids. Why is the topic started because people were not allowed to wear Braids in American/western schools.
Sorry for referring to this topic but i saw another video you did with a brother about the Aetas and Filipinos' African connection. I've known about this history for many years. I am a Black man who has actively researched my people worldwide since my teenage years. I knew about the term negritos(given by the Spanish colonizers) but actually encountered a Black Filipina in San Francisco when I was 21. I overheard two women speaking a foriegn language while waiting for the subway(BART). One girl was obviously Asian while the other one was a sister. I asked the Black lady what laguage were you speaking, she said Tagalog! I asked how did she learn it and she said that she was Filipino! I assumed that she was the daughter of a Black G.I. until I later leaned more about the Philippines. I am now pretty well versed in the history of the country. I also studied more about Southeast Asia as well as the Melanesian Pacific islands(the Black Islands). We are indigeous to most continents except Europe. African people were found everywhere including China and Japan but especailly Southeast Asia, Australia, the pacific islands, and the Americas long before the Caucasians(who spread their racism worldwide)!
thank you for watching this!
there's been a lot of comments proving and disproving what I said in that video about Filipinos being Africans. I will post an update video on that.
are you based in the US? you don't have to answer if you feel that is too personal and i apologize if I sound intrusive.
@@AsianEntertainmentandCulture they are a mixed people. I was not really aware of the mixture until I looked at the history. Also, no one will ever admit it but a lot of us (people of color of the diaspora) are having to face the facts that we are mixed. I am considered so-called African American (I don’t care much for the term) but I have done a DNA test that shows more than African. I have tested up to my grandparent and we know that we have ancestors other than just African: Native American, European, Middle Eastern, etc. There is a site called GEDmatch that lets you analyze your DNA even further than just general location. I can see how some Native American genetics comes from Asia. The Middle Eastern ancestors I researched came from the Baloch people. Their ancestors have a history of taking Africans and there is now a group of them that lives among them. Most African Americans have Native genetics but you cannot be considered with a tribe due to blood quantum and matriarchal lineage not being known. So, Blacks of the diaspora are not 100% of African ancestry. If I were born in Mexico I would be considered Mexican and status would be based off a caste system I guess!
What I am learning about the people of Earth is that we were all mixed once our ancestors left Africa. Asians and Europeans have Denisovan/Neanderthal ancestry. All white people aren’t Caucasian. That is a myth due to a guy liking their skulls. But all Europeans are Asian! There is no such thing as a European continent but only their wishful thinking to make them feel better! I’m tired of the white lies and it’s time for us to reveal and accept the truth of history! All people outside Africa have ancestry that came from Africa. DNA tracing can only reveal snips.
@@MercyAlwyz23 well... celtic people did (do) exist as do others.
Do you know the myth of the princess Europa and how she was stolen from "little Asia"? You could see that as a wandering of people. Our culture at least has major influences from those cultures... (so has north African)
It's complicated like all things human are and the question is also when and from where. Because there is always a mixing even if it is involuntary. But I find it funny that you would classify me as Asian. But okay... if you want to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@ruthfischer7615 Europeans are Asian. That’s just a fact! And some Natives came from Asia and didn’t enter the Americas directly from Africa as some did. The people went back and forth over the continents once leaving out of Africa. The history shows this and genetics proves it. Go to scientist John Hawks he discusses the mixing that happened long before Europe became known as Europe! Europeans are a mixed people.
@@MercyAlwyz23 How far do you have to go back for that? I'm really curious.
I wouldn't call myself Asian because well... I don't think Asian people would call me that.
And people wold probably be very angry when a "white" person claims to be Asian aka. POC? That is what i mean.
History and movement of people is pretty complicated. I think at the end of the day you only have to wander down your family tree to find people of different cultures/color. The trouble is alway with what is also implied with it and the history of "suffering" since people are not often nice to each other.
This is not against you. I personally find the topic interesting.
Thank you for explaining what you mean.
Both Derek in "10" was cultural appropriation. Everyone with sense knows other cultures have braided styles. If people don't get that, that's on them.
Literally it’s obvious
I think you might be missing the point. Braids don’t belong to one culture, yes, but the context matters. A lot of Asians wearing the braids and hairstyles that they do - like Lisa or Jay park or even Hyuna - they aren’t wearing it because it’s part of their culture it’s because they admire the culture they are seeing those braids on - which is usually black culture. They like the aesthetic of it and they find the hairstyles cool and so want to utilize that hair. But the cultural context of those braids versus the ones you showed matter. Black people are often stigmatized for wearing those hairstyles now and in the past and most use the hair styles as a way to protect their hair or show off their own cultural roots, or to engage in their own cultural style. I don’t think the Asians wearing the hairstyles are mocking or being cruel they just appreciate it. But they can appreciate those hairstyles and not engage in it. I hear a lot of Asians from Asia specifically talk about appropriation and how they don’t think that people not of the culture wearing their traditional clothing is appropriating, but they miss the aspect of oppression all context that comes with appropriation. I’m their country most Asians don’t feel an oppression when it comes to others wearing their cultural garments because they are allowed to celebrate their culture. They are surrounded by their culture. But In a place like America any culture that is deemed out of the norm or not seen as a “white standard” is stigmatized and forced to assimilate. It’s about context not about whether or not people are allowed to wear something. you gotta ask why are certain Asians or certain white people wearing these braids? Is it to connect to their own cultural roots that have similar braids in it, like you showed? Or is it because they like the social status and aestheticism of black culture? Was Lisa wearing those braids because it’s part of her own culture or because she was dancing to a traditionally hip hop track and the braids would “fit” a traditionally black aesthetic? Was jay park wearing the hairstyles he does because it fits into his own cultural background or is it because he also engages in a traditionally black music genre (not that you have to be black to work in that genre) and consistently uses a type of black aesthetic to - in his mind - elevate his image? What about that kdrama that used an Asian man as a hostile “gangster” to intimidate others and dressed him up in tattoos and braids? Was that because he liked braids? Or was that because the stylist wanted to show a specific stereotype? It’s all in the context of what these braids mean. You can like these braids. Appreciate these braids. But ask yourself why do you want to wear these braids?
Hi @macey. First things first. Thank you for leaving such a comment. Please know that anything and everything I will say here is coming from a place of respect and sincerity. It is very important for me that you know that. you left an informative and respectful comment and i owe you the same amount of respect. If I say anything that offends you, please know that it is not the intent. Please, if you could, just explain to me why it is offensive if that happens.
i am not aware of the complete story of Lisa's braids and what happened during her live chat with fans. I watched her music video though. I only referenced that incident because many of those who asked me about this are, I assume, Blinks and came from that incident. I am also not aware of the whole story about Jay Park either. This video is addressing the general questions of "can Asians wear braids or is that cultural appropriation".
i do think it is very normal for people to not be totally aware of their culture. Asians, especially, have so many ethnic groups within a country. it is ordinary for people to not "realize" braids have been part of our culture too. it is so ordinary to us, we don't question it anymore. that is why i think discussions about culture is healthy. it forces all of use to be aware.
thus, i wouldn't have been shocked if the person who styled Lisa (huge chance she is Korean) has been seeing braids all their life but it didn't really sink to her that 'hey, that's an important part of our history and culture'. if Lisa had been the one to choose it, i also wouldn't be surprised that she found it pretty considering it's been a part of Thai culture too. i know that because i have been using scarves, braids, and other stuff all my life, i see it in historical books, museums, and in person when i travel all around the Philippines but the significance never got to me until later when people started talking about it.
but, as i've said, i don't know the whole Lisa story. your point is valid. "what was the intention?" i don't know the answer but, *as far as i was told*, no one asked the stylist what was the intention. i may be wrong. if i am, please correct me.
*if* the stylist is Asian and did it because she or he or they thought it was pretty and for no other reason but that, i do not think there is anything wrong with that because it is natural for them to find braids pretty considering it has been all around us for thousands of years. it's been a part of us. of course, we will find it pretty. she does not need to justify it beyond that because, as i've mentioned, it's ordinary for us. it's part of us. we grew up with it. we may not have been "aware" of it but it doesn't change the fact that it is in us.
i get your point though. she is rapping and wearing braids. it is natural for people to assume those two elements were used as a pair intentionally. maybe it was. maybe it wasn't. but that's why we should ask, research, and converse. so we will know.
now that we know better, we can do better, right?
however, personally, for as long as someone has no malicious intent, i do not consider it cultural appropriation. as i've said someone can appear wearing a bahag and spear (traditional clothing of one of our ethnic groups) in a Halloween costume party and for as long as that person is not mocking us, we're good.
i do not expect that same thinking from others though. i understand that the sheer history and intensity by which African Americans were appropriated makes it necessary to be protective. that's why i said in the video, let's recognize that you have a history connected to braids. let's be aware of that.
the same way, i also wish others would be aware, it's part of us too.
this incident will happen again. i hope when it does, we can all converse instead of fight or judge.
again, this is coming from a place of respect and sincerity. know that i am trying very very hard to be careful and to nurture a conversation, not to offend. Please know that.
Humans cannot appropriate human culture. I don't know why you're typing up an essay of a load of stuff that makes no sense... Hairstyles can be used by anyone because our ancestors used them in Africa, all humans are from Africa, therefore the hairstyles belong to all humans. Anyone that says otherwise is segregating and they are the enemy of human unity and harmony.
Black people are stigmatised for wearing braids? Specifically?
Where? How?
Cause when applying for a job as any race, wearing certain braids will hinder your chances. If you work directly with clients, employers want you to look as normal/standard as possible to avoid prejudice from the client.
@@Cowz19999 you sound so misguided have you ever heard of the crown act before ..💀
@@Cowz19999 so are you saying black hairstyles aren’t normal? 🤨💀
Anybody can wear braids, they are beautiful
nope take them out.
I NEED THE SAME energy when I check white... to get a job interview. and they see me on zoom "anybody " cant be them. "anybody" is not polluting the planet "anybody" is not on the billionaire list.
--- that lack of gatekeeping is why ANYBODY can be black. no matter their skintone or race
@@cinnamonstar808 period
Why not? Are we so bored that this is all we can focus. Please people. Braids are all over the world. The Polish have wearing braids and all over Eastern Europe to South America. As soon as we looked for a way to style or control our hair we braided it. We need more geography taught in schools. Peace, peace.
NOBODY ask any Asians not to wear braid. literally no one in 500,000 years.
🤦 I am also going to say this for the 3,000,000 times just because YOU see white people on a continent = does not mean they are native to that land. [ America, Australia, Africa and Europe ] Everyone you mention here ....have black ancestors . that is how they got the braids in their hair. "shared culture"
YOU SEE HOW Irish have red kinky 4c hair and pale? = black tribe w/ red hair one of the native people of Europe.
ask the Romans or Benjamin Franklin of the USA what is the skin color are the natives of Europe? go ahead ask
or 🤴🏽Mieszko I of Poland 940AD = that is not a tan
just like America, Argentina, Australia ; more waves of immigrants made Europe 'white'
that 🇦🇷Argentina tango belongs to the black people of Argentina:
Do you see any black or native people in 🇦🇷Argentina = no
do you see any black native Europeans =no
GOOGLE IS FREE
The types of braids that majority of kpop idols are wearing are braids from their culture. Box braids and cornrows combined with the hip hop concepts that majority of them are trying to go for come from black American culture.
Wahhhh
@Ahmadharis she's lying. To fit some weird narrative about "her" braids. Gtfo
why it's cultural appropriation when it's their culture. imagine these Asian tribes coming to America.😂
I believe anybody could wear braids. Every culture is wearing hair that’s not in their culture. Who say you can’t?? That’s why you or anyone else can look the way you want. Be free!❤️🥰😍🫶🏽
I think you mean Africans because African Americans get most of their braiding styles from cornrows that were passed down naturally from Africa or newer styles discovered from Africa. I appreciate the education about Tibetan.
We truly need to discuss. Knowing that laws were enacted that made it illegal for Black African descent in America and in former enslave colonies to stop us from wearing our hair as it naturally flows from our scalp, and is still viewed today as unprofessional, unkempt, inappropriate may add to one's understanding of why it's such a sensitive matter, especially when others wear it and it is deemed acceptable, trendy, and cool. While the owner of this video believes that "is your hair, you can do whatever you want with it" and I agree, it's not acceptable or accepted for blacks. It's a fight to get it accepted even in all African nations, islands, etc. Why, because what colonists taught and made into laws are still strong in the minds of many people around the world toward persons of African descent. Kids are suspended, kept from graduating, not allowed to work, etc, for wearing their hair as it naturally flows from their scalp. Yes, 2022. So there's a lot of moving parts to this subject. The chemicals required to make our hair European acceptable causes scalp damage and cancer, and other autoimmune diseases, but that's what the majority culture considers acceptable. Many people aren't aware how far reaching and deeply embedded colonialism spread and still forms, and inform acceptance and practices today. Many cultures around the world shun, harm, avoid blacks based on those embedded systems of biases that have become so normal, that anything else is abnormal. Seeing blacks with another race and culture seems abnormal and the couple are often criticized, avoided, isolated and the same happens to their offspring. It's a deep dark, ongoing history. Even if you don't see it or know it, it's there.
Hi there. thank you for leaving such a thoughtful comment. i read both your comments word for word. I just want you to know that I truly understand what you are saying. I know that you fully recognize the history of Asian hairstyles. I also understand that you simply want others to understand the struggles of African Americans. it is so severe and you are targeted that even your hair is made to an issue.
i do not contest that. I may not fully understand what you feel but I respect it and will never deny that. I do what i can to help.
so this response is not to antagonize you but to just have a conversation.
i think majority of the misunderstanding comes from "How" people express their own point of view. Many African Americans do their best to express their feelings and people put them out of context, exaggerate them or deny their validity of their emotions.
worse, other people try to compare the experience and history of African Americans to their own experiences. i hear so many people say "we are oppressed too". yes, but that's a different experience.
in the same breath, when another race expresses their history, others will prove that they had it worse. the fact is that it's just different. we all have our own history and experiences and the sooner we respect each others' experiences, the sooner we will get to a better, more accepting society.
i hope that others do what you did. you explained factually and respectfully, without putting others down, without demanding that others to say they are wrong, without waging a word war.
so again, thank you.
THANK YOUUU
No negasss own braids its part of different cultures of people who have hairs
I think the "cultural appropriation" argument is a matter of opinion. The bottom line is sometimes a person can look better than the origin of style. When a white person can wear cornrolls or dreadlocks or a an asian person can slam a basketball, the other race's feelings are hurt. If we're nitpicking braids and beads, then stop wearing silk, eating rice or noodles. Stop going to church, or praying to the same God. Stop using medicine, or even driving cars because none of those things belongs to people of color.
That doesn't make sense.
Opinion my ass! If you’re getting hurt because someone is “appropriating” your culture then get tf out 🚪👈 it’s called fucking appreciation. It delights me and my family, ancestors, In laws, that people other than black people use dreadlocks! Stop gatekeeping your culture. We should all share it with each others instead! Cultural exchange for the win!!
Even if the person using dreadlocks aren’t wearing it to appreciate the culture, I still think this argument is bullshit. Shit other than appropriation exists
@@rimoe25 No, it's not always appreciation. How would you feel about someone taking a part of your culture, religion, etc., that means something sacred and turning it evil? Like the swastika symbol the NAZIS took. Countless of cultures have experienced this. Additionally, for a lot of people (African American people especially), it's about how people treat the culture. If you want to see real "appreciation" watch Tina Yong. Unfortunately, In K-pop, I have never seen such appreciation. It's only used to look cool. A certain accent is only used to sound cool and only the rappers use it.
Christianity started in Africa and the middle east
Tibetan and Mongolian can wear it. It’s no appropriations
Cultural appropriation
what a dumb title. ppl can do whatever they want with their hair lol
As a black person myself who is qualified to speak on this discussion STARTED by us, the point is not about non-black people wearing braids, it is about whether those non-black people wearing African invented hairstyles can cite their sources. The question is can they state the fact that those hairstyles, or patterns of speech called AAVE, or dance moves, aren't simply a trend that came from a people-less culture, because that is appropriation and plagiarism. So wear those braids etc, but don't act aloof when asked about the culture that you're a foreigner inside of for profit. Show humility for that realization if you truly are honoring these people, and don't have racial discriminatory views on when those hairstyles are good compared to criminal. Just as it is important to take ones shoes off in someones house, one must decolonize their own biases, and give credit before entering another culture.
Well there is a problem with that however. Many people claim hair and braid styles like dreadlocks are African hairstyles but those kinds of styles have been found everywhere from Scandinavia, to Tibet, to many Native tribes in the Americans. Second, there are many Black people in America that culturally appropriate many hairstyles such as styles that come from East Africa but claim it as Black culture which is just completely reductive. Plus with the whole cultural appropriation thing people are still not clear on the line of where it starts since the definition is never consistent.
@@keithkoganeislife3144 Spaghetti and Anime is found in America and Sudan as well, did you forget its from italy and japan? Saying another culture braids their hair doesn't change the google result when you ask which continent invented them. My next fact I'm going to point out is you cant seem to understand the difference between cultural appreciation and cultural appropriation. Appropriation is done by dominant groups in a society and removes the inventors from credit, this obviously if you're able to read nouns well, is a power dynamic which is non-existent between Africans in America giving attention to hairstyles made by their counterparts elsewhere when they're both ethnically Africans celebrating their own globalization of Afro culture and hair.
@@teafallbliss3409 First off, spaghetti actually originated in China, but was brought over to Italy by Arab traders during the era of the Silk Road. Second, if you look into history and other cultures, outside your own American centric views numerous cultures around the globe had braids, quite a few very similar to the kind many associate with “Black culture” today like dreadlocks even though many people like the Vikings and Tribes of the Americas had them traditionally. Cultural appropriation has been happening for eons, every people has partaken in the practices, Africans are no exception, have you seen how many Black people in America are obsessed with Japanese and Chinese culture? Plus African-Americas have power, I mean there was a half-Black man as president, a half-Black woman as the current vice-president, numerous prominent Black politicians, and many prominent Black people in the entertainment industry who are beyond wealthy. Lastly, stop homogenizing African cultures, there are quite a few Blacks in America who will gladly appropriate Egypt and other African practices that historically weren’t theirs to begin with. So if we were going by your logic than Black Americans who get tattoos of symbols prominent in let’s say the Samburu tribe that would be cultural appropriation since there is an imbalance in power between Black Americans and African people.
How bout you mind your own fucking business? No one owns you an explanation or citation of any "source". If you're this ignorant, go read a book, there are plenty of sources for you.
@@keithkoganeislife3144 your arguments are very weak and trash to be honest, firstly, it is not appropriation for a black American to wear an East African style when NO East African has ever said they had a problem with it. If they SPECIFICALLY SAID “hey this style is sacred please do not wear it if you’re not East African” that would be different. You people try so hard to have a gotcha moment and fail miserably. The second part you failed to realize is braids have always been SHARED amongst the BLACK African diaspora! We don’t gatekeep from one another because we are all BLACK and have course hair that needs to be protected. Next time shut your mouth ✌🏽
I’m Korean Nice content and I love other race wear Hanbok It’s beautiful I take it more Cultural appreciation
Intent.
do what you want to do. and if you are questioned on it, be real. be honest
Was that hair style passed down to you from your ancestors?
Did your family braid your hair like that when you were a child?
OR
did you see a black person on tv with the braids and did it because you thought it looked cool?
Only you can answer that question.
all most reasonable people ask is that you don't be so superficial.
Educate yourself on the things you do.
fashion is culture. Culture is history.
If you're going to wear a traditionally african hair style, why not get your hair done by someone of African descent?
I would never tell another person how to wear their hair.
but I know if you are being a poser or not.
Asian braids look different from African braids.
There are many Western European inventions that have been culturally appropriated around the world: indoor plumbing; science and life-saving medical practices based on science; the concept of individual rights against the state and along with it a principled argument against the existence of slavery, and so on. No European claims that non-Europeans shouldn’t be allowed to appropriate these things. Culture always involves cultural appropriation. If you are against cultural appropriation, you are against culture itself, the thing that distinguishes us from all other species of animals.
@@515351535153 imagine comparing inventions and innovations to hairstyles with cultural significance. What’s the cultural significance behind plumbing?
@@nauticawillis2787 they always do that and have so many logical fallacies LOL
I think ppl forget we migrated, there are black Asian meaning darkskin or brown skin Asian, where do you think they got their color?? Because someone migrated there and mixed with the locals, which means they brought their culture/traditions over with them. Which now is about of your history, it wasn’t used by the lighter Asians and we need to not rewrite history for our own benefits! I’ve been studying out of Africa materials and it’s almost as if you guys don’t believe we left Africa and traveled the world, it’s quite sad and insulting!
Don’t mind them from Africans comes every race . All those lands were occupied by melanin people before any other race ever existed.
asians with darker skin don't have darker skin because they are mixed. doesn't mean that there are/were no mixed people in asia but people all around the world have different melanin levels in their skin based on the environment they live in. people in asia weren't light skinned before black people came there
They assimilate and become part of the culture right. Wouldn't the example here be a legitimate use instead of "appropriation", it has become their culture. Ofc human interact and influence other, I think it's wiser to acknowledge the similarities of cultures around the world instead of pushing it as appropriation. You can see similarities in food for example dumplings. all culture around the silk road have a rendition of this, doesn't mean these rendition is stealing, it's an adaptation of idea, a product of sharing and trade.
All of this appropriation talk tend to looks like monsanto campaign instead of educational and sharing
Africans arent as old asians go check history once again and there is no evolutionary proos for africans blacks no cultures,civilization,or genetic history
A person can do whatever they want with their own hair. No explanation or apology necessary.
I'm Black American and I can say this discussion & reply stream brings all of us to some tricky currents. First let me say I understand Black American sensitivity to this issue. About 40 yrs. ago there was a major movie hit call "10" that starred Bo Derek, a White model/actress. For the movie & its publicity materials Bo Derek threw some cornrows in her hair & was talked about as one of the most beautiful women in the world & treated as if she personally created the style. It infuriated Black American women & men because they were regularly ignored, marginalized or mistreated for wearing the exact same hairstyle-which they had been utilizing way before anyone heard of Bo Derek. The sensitivity of this subject has endured to the present day as many White & Latino-White females are credited with enhancing the beauty of their appearance for wearing Black American-centered hair braids while Black girls & women in America are castigate or punished for wearing the same hair styles. As a Black American (with a daughter by the way) I too am disguusted at society's hypocrisy in this matter.
But I do not support any attempt by any Black Americans to treat braids & hair braiding as our exclusive domain. I believe hair braiding and braid styles are global and as old as human civilization. I don't think any culture has a "lock" on the creation of that hair style. Because of this, I don't think any of us should automatically get into our feelings if we see anyone who is not a person of color wearing braids. I think several other participants in this discussion have the proper perspective which is: Judgement should be withheld unless there is a preponderance of additional factors that together with the wearing of braids shows the individual intentionally or negligently misappropriated another's cultural attributes.
If you’re going to bring Latino women into this, braids have always been a part of our culture, mainly coming from indigenous roots with so many variations of hairstyles. Learn other people’s history before you start flinging accusations.
@@Sabinex5 way to miss the point, typical. Our African hairstyles are NOT yours
I am black and I don’t care. People should wear what they want when they want and how they want. So many terms out there cultural appropriation what does that really mean
CULTURE AND your grandparents homestead works the same; you have birthright to belong in it; You can invite people over as guest . But its not the yours to GIVE AWAY. because it community property.
------------> Whatever culture, race, or nationality she belongs to "ask her is you can be that; and if she cares" 🍭if you sound and look like a sucker; people will like it.
as BP we should take off the 🍭 sucker uniform.
->⬜ can you check this box? 🟨this one? 👘👘🚝 🎎 this one? - 🤦 any body and the Chinese Olympic teams look like you? = THEY GATE KEEP FOR A REASON.
The oldest known reproduction of hair braiding may go back about 30,000 years: the Venus of Willendorf, a female figurine estimated to have been made between about 28,000 and 25,000 BC in modern-day Austria. So please people of Colour stop appropriating our White Culture .................. No more braiding of hair! SHOCKER EH!
are you from the UK? coz i could hear your accent when you said SHOCKER EH!🤣🤣🤣
Everyone can wear braids stop with all this nonsense!!
anybody can be white stop with this nonsense!!
Yawn
@@cinnamonstar808the hell are you even saying
why the hell would a non black person wanna wear braids??????????
1-Appreciating their culture.
2-because is pretty
go do your research
Do your research just because your hair is type 4 doesn't make it illegal for other types of hairs to have braids
@@Minnie_silvertears lmao exactly and on top of that, braids were NOT created by black people, it was first documented by NATIVES.
yet another thing people love stealing from our first nations people 🤦🏽♂️
@@Minnie_silvertears i don't understand why other non blacks want black hair styles.