Termite Protection for Remodel & New Construction : Here’s what you NEED to know!
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I have come to the conclusion that Matt is doing this entire remodel at pretty close no cost to him, with all his sponsors.
I mean if you could would you not, also if something does go bad he'll definitely let us know.
As would you if you could. Who wouldn’t?
Generally, humans who get paid to sell a product, may be more motivated to exaggerate the pros, and be silent about the cons.
@@Dave--FkTheDeepstate true but if you get it for free, then you have to pay your own money to replace it or update it.
@@Dave--FkTheDeepstate and yet you wouldn’t turn down a free product that you believed was quality.
When I lived in Texas, we had bait stations around the house like they show here, but ours were spring-loaded so that when the cellulose bait material was eaten away enough, a brightly colored rod would pop up sticking out the top to indicate a new bait pack needed to be installed.
I used something like that in AZ. But I think they were just 'monitoring stations'. I was supposed to call an exterminator when I saw one of those orange sticks pop up.
I'd prefer the inexpensive, colony killing option instead.
Spectracide sells termite baits with an orange indicator thru the local DIY stores.
@@quallzone6219 That is what I used, thanks.
Do you know if those were colony killing or just monitoring bait?
WHAT BRAND DID YOU USE THAT THE FLAG CAME UP?
I'm using the trenching liquid method and it seems to be working out like a champ.
In Australia, the native termites go past the hardwood, past the pine, to eat the Douglas Fir/Oregon timber. They love it!
Very interesting product. Great questions, and great job answering.
It's funny, my neighbors saw me trenching and dumping a solution in it I had neighbor yelling 'we don't get termites round here' but Matt just showed that we do get termites here. Thanks Matt.
your neighbor probably has a huge infestation in their finished basement and simply can't see it.
Don't fall for it, your neighbor is actually a termite wearing a suit
They also have options for hardscape around houses. Have used the solution on a few houses.
Nice montage in the beginning! :)
i found a bunch of these things in my yard when we were doing some upgrades. had no idea what they were. now i know. would have never guessed termite bait stations lol
Nice to know thanks
Great info
I use Termidor about every 10 years. It is fantastic and I don't have to check traps or pay anyone else to..
Yup, fipronil, good stuff. You can use taurus sc too for less moolah too.👍
Did you use Tremidor as a spray on treatment or did you pour it in the ground around your home?
@@A-Mia836 We've used it on 2 homes. Both times we paid professionals to install it around out home. They use a low pressure pump with a rod/nozzle. They inject it into the ground every 12 - 16 inches. In the garagem they drilled holes about 16 inches apart and injected it. When they see it come up the next hole, they know they have filled the area. Same across out pool deck on the back of the house..
I found it from a article about an Orlando college dorm termite issue.. The school had hired several "pro's" and still had issues. When Termidor was used on 1 dorm, they found that the termites at several other dorms had died off as well.. The dorms covered several acres.... After reading that, I dug into it and found that it was absolutely what I wanted..
So 10 feet apart. A mighty big gap that termites will just go right through and to the house. Go right ahead a pay for that subscription service. The bigger bang is just get the home treated with a full barrier that last 10 years or more.
@@jasonclay6218plus the sentricon can by label be installed as far away as 20 ft to keep them away from utilities shrubbery and landscaping however that does stretch out the foraging range also
I can't even remember the last time a video hasn't been a sponsored product.
Can you blame him with these sky high prices right now?
He has to use good products and services to build a house. I see no harm in promoting them and getting expert reps to educate us about them. Personally, I enjoy it. But, I do understand that others may find it off-putting.
@@scorpio6587 but the point is it's an advertisement for sentricon. Of course they'll talk about how great it is. There's no critique of it's effectiveness. Sentricon won't pay/sponsor Matt if he is critical of their product if it didn't work as well (or at all) as advertised. My exterminator has been pushing our transition to sentricon every time he does an inspection. But, he can't tell me anything about it other than how great it is. You have to do better than that
@@TheDesertRat31 Good point. Another video that gives a comprehensive and comparative treatment on many products and techniques would be awesome. He has done things like it, so it would probably be right in his wheelhouse.
$10,000 no, but several thousand, yes. What Tyler forgot to mention is, just because you pay the thousands to put the system in, you don't own it, and if you don't pay the several hundred dollar, annual maintenance fee, the contractor will come out and remove the system. At least that's what happened in my case. I bought a house that had the system installed, and the contractor kept sending me a bill for maintenance, which I didn't want to pay; he came out and pulled the system.
BORAX is your friend! Termite contractors, maybe not so much.
Yea, if you don't pay your car payment then your car will be taken too.
@@hunterford9018 lol, not quite the same thing, now is it?
Termite contractors do a lot more bill collecting, than terminate prevention.
@@jimsiggy believe what you will. Kind of the same thing. The termite prevention is a service that involves time and labor and money. If you don't want it then great, don't pay for it. If you do want it then you have to pay for it. Treat your house yourself if you want. That's cool. But don't argue that the termite company did you wrong by removing the system when you didn't pay the bill. Just saying
If you can buy similar product directly, installation is very trivial. Why do you need a contractor for that? Thousand dollars for such simple product is clearly over priced.
So you treat your house for termites on your own? Is it easy? I’m having a professional treat mine this week, but I’m tempted to attempt it myself.
Matt Risinger. Do you still recommend the Pango termite/vapor barrier for new construction? I noticed you still mentioned termimesh as a physical barrier. Or are there better options available now?
This is exactly why I think that none of the house/building structure should be made with wood. Build it with concrete and steel for no worries about rot or termites. No wood should be present from the foundation to the roof top. And as our planet continues to warm the termite problem will only get worse. Build it right the first time and it will far outlast any wood structure.
expensive and a great conductor of heat
Thanks for all the useful information you provide…… You rich bastard
Not only do termites love wood framing, but also the cellulose surfaces on Sheetrock. Treating interiors on slab homes is a real challenge - drilling and chemicals are usually used. Like the man said, move to the 49th state if you don’t want termites!
My daughter has to get her house tented! They are really bad in her house in Florida. She had the house inspected and they said there were termites. But what they said was no we’re near the amount of termites she has.
Here in SoCal we have flying termites. Wood treatment and tenting /gas is used
California had both types of termites. Drywood termites that live in the wood and Subterranean termites that live in the ground. Don't forget other pests/beetles like powder post beetles. All can live in North and South Cali. Also, a common way of getting drywood termites and powder post beetles into your home is firewood and antiques/wood furniture. Keep that firewood outside and away from your home until you're ready to burn it.
Good ole dry wood termites!
Hilarious... Video about termite control starts out with Matt's house surrounded in bark mulch.
Very good information. Thanks.
Use the trench method. Its more effective and lasts a decade with no additional work
I recently seen these few months ago and destroyed like 5 of them with the lawn mower, gotta dig them deeper in the ground folks!
Or get a better solution! Termidor HP II is far better!
They tend to pop up in times of drought.when I serviced them I would have to replace some stations constantly. I personally would not recommend bait stations for my own house
does it work on carpenter ants?
I contacted my current pest control company. They have never heard of this system. Time to get a new pest control company...
Just because they don't use them they would still have to be aware they exist
Why does poison bait 'that only termites will eat' require a certified installer?
$$$?
Probably because Sentricon only sells them to certified installers. But if you can get them yourself and save some money on installation, then go for it.
Just Google "Termite Bait Stations" - first result. 20 stations for $390.
@@makerpat yeah diy 10 yr chemical application is way more cost effective and better imo
It depends on the State regulations. I live in NYS and they can’t sell directly to me. In MA, next door, so far , you can buy bait stations directly. There are several manufacturers of these stations. I suspect the installers have a pretty good lobbying operation.
If they can make these for ants, so cheap...why can't they do something similar for termites?
RAID Bait Station ANT BAIT Trap Killer Kills Queen & Colony, 4 ct - $5.49 @ Walgreens
These work extremely well. One trap permanently kills one colony.
Do NOT use these if termites are common in your area. Ants are natural enemies of termites.
I made that mistake ~23 years ago :-(
Ants have been almost extinct on my property since then.
Methyl Bromide always works.
I am sure i have termites however i only have them coming through in one spot in the room help
How long do these last, I bought a 2 year old house that has them all around the house.
Is the termite poison that you drop on the grass like fertilizer very effective?
No, they are not very effective against termites compared to most other solutions. Most subterranean termite species generally reside several inches underground. Sprinkling pesticide granules like lawn fertilizer may reduce ants and other surface-dwelling insects, but after watering the lawn, the chance of the chemical penetrating deep enough and still be potent enough to kill a colony is extremely low.
Of course, you specifically mentioned termite poison and not *Nematodes* which are different.
How do we know the bait station isn't actually attracting them to the house and some are bypassing the bait?
You dont
Great option. Completely non-toxic.
Keep in mind, that for every acre of land you'll have about 16 colonies of termites dwelling underneath. You will want a system that lingers on the carrier for about a few days so that it has the opportunity to bring the poison to the colony.
Matt found termites in his yard and decided to put mulch around the house? lol
What is funny is that is normally where you would find termites! That's like finding a squirrel in his yard and decided to put in guard towers with machine guns. As long as they aren't in the house it's not a problem... And that is why you get a house termiticide treatment!
Definitely a future MUST buy 👌
Thanks Sentricon
Matt’s neighbor’s are beginning to wonder why it takes so long to build his house 🤣
Chlordane was the best but banned from use.
It lasted longer but I was working sales during that era and the companies I worked for still had termite retreats and damage claims from chlordane treated accounts.the explanation given by Dow chemical the manufacturer was the product tended to leach away from the original targeted location abd consequently that was the primary reason for it being banned.it would get in the underground water tables and eventually get into ponds and wellwater
Matt,
I am renovating a old farm house in New Hampshire, what can you put in the walls before they are closed up for termites and Mice?
On termites, they mentioned a spray (boric acid? don't quote me on that) in this video that was featured in greater depth in an earlier video maybe 6-12 months ago.
@@dosadoodle "Bora-Care" is the liquid spray product for termites, but some people mix their own DIY solution of boric acid & water. Various website and blogs discuss the exact ratio needed to be effective.
I have that system also where can I get 30 of the poisons to fill the traps so I can put in the poison in !
Great and I'm sure you have an extra hundred thousand dollars sitting around to cover any repairs needed from termite damages
cool
This is good stuff here, I used to rebuild for Massey for 3 yrs. I have seen total devastation from these little MF’ers
You don’t know you have them until it’s too late ⏰
Can I buy them on my own
I'm surprised (not really because sentricon is a competitor) that they dont recommend drilling the slab and spraying termidor. I had both termidor done on the slab and the bait system installed.
Because the 2 products contradict each other. they have 2 totally different modes of action.
@@hunterford9018 I understand that, but don't get what difference that makes. Combining the 2 seems like it would be a double whammy, as well as ensuring that any that do get past the bait system are killed.
What about water wells?
Sentricon can be installed in proximity to water wells and lakes/waterways. This is not the case with liquid termiticides.
@@emthompson10liquid treatment within 50 ft is not permitted otherwise you are good
Is this solution available in Pakistan, as we at Friends of Environment are looking for a sustainable solutions free from chemicals to protect trees
Translate nya bagus ini teh
What about carpenter ants?
borax, nine mule team or something to that effect, at maomart
On an old house do you still need to trench it and use this product in conjunction with ???
Yes. These are not 100% so do not rely on these as a perimeter treatment! Do not let a lazy salesman tell you otherwise unless hes going to personally swing a hammer when its time to rebuild. Alsways get a bond as well and check their claim history--- termite and pest control companies save MILLIONS each year by simply refusing to honor claims.
@@danielbuckner2167
"termite and pest control companies save MILLIONS each year by simply refusing to honor claims."
Sounds like an opportunity for a take over of the industry.
Do a better job.
Honor claims.
The public will deem all others; fly by night scam artists.
Sentricon is a stand alone system and does not require a liquid treatment if installed by a Certified Sentricon Specialist. If you want to use both liquid and bait, you cannot use sentricon. You can purchase Trelona or another available bait system for that application alongside a liquid treatment.
@@emthompson10 Thank you kindly.
@@emthompson10 Or not use any bait at all and just use a proven method/system with effective chemicals to treat the house itself and not buy into smoke and mirrors and optimism! 👍
might be a funny question but why would you put bait for termites, dont u want those termites not go near your house, now your baiting them to go to your house
The bait doesn't attract them a y more than wood and if they are in the area they will find them but they won't travel just to get them like some ant baits will
You can do this yourself. Buy the stations and put them in yourself not a big deal.
Hi where can you buy?
What about termites and ICF homes
They're a non-issue. I'm going with a steel/concrete/foam build for my house. No wood, no termite damage.
One ICF manufacturer has a termite treated block. For others you could use metal flashing to stop them from burrowing upwards.
I was once told about a concrete block house that had termites. They managed to get in and into the furniture.
@@ryanbrown982 Same with SIPS ?
@@greggcollins4215 Wow... Concrete will usually/eventually crack, especially near drain pipes, etc.
Termite professional here, baiting for termites does not work near as good as they say in this. The product was made so that companies could continually sell a service. Termidor is the best chemical made, uses the trench and treat method and last over 30 years or as long as the soil along the house is not disturbed
Do they have to call 811 before digging those holes? Seems risky if they don’t.
Do you call 811 to plant a bush?
@@Legendary_UA no but I don’t dig bushes with a gas powered auger either :)
@@paul.tinsleyjust go about 10 ft out and avoid utilities
I would add boric acid in addition to this. Or just build out of CMU.
cmu?
@@Raymond-mk8cb
cmu?
Good question.
cream, mayo and Umbuzada.
Not buying it?
OK, a quick search brought up; concrete masonry unit.
But cream, mayo and Umbuzada may taste better.
@@Raymond-mk8cb concrete masonry unit
Love the information and the videos Matt but, this is my expertise and I wish you had looked at all your options before using a subpar treatment and leading all of your subscribers to an outdated system. I hope they also did a chemical treatment!
What’s the better alternatives if I may ask?
@@tribehead09 Termidor hp2 or really any Termidor treatment. It also will save the customer money over the life of the treatment. Lower renewal costs
@Matt, can anyone install the Sentricon system without calling a contractor, because its seems easy to do, by you guys demonstrating it?
These are regulated and in most states you have to be a certified pesticide applicator.
@Matt, so how can I get certified?
@@babyboinews6896 here in Tennessee there is a test to get certified by the department of agriculture.
@@danielwhite7159 , is there any material you know of, so I can study for it? We have the department of agriculture here in Michigan, also!
@@babyboinews6896 yes you should have a website for your department of agriculture, then you should be able to find testing sites as well as material on that site. Some states do classes as well as giving books and study material.
I was told termites can live two years and since this doesn't kill what happens in the two years it takes to eliminate the colony.
Hate to have any termites get into that brick.
There are very few termites that eat live wood, most (really all that ought to be of concern to home owners) are ones that eat dead wood. So I don't really see a need to do this on live trees...
The mulch around the house though is a good food source for them though (unless it is treated). Hard to keep mulch away from the foundation though when it is used for landscaped areas.... But an ideal situation is to keep mulch 3 or 4ft away from the foundation minimum.
Or you use the permanent "mulch" made from recycled tires up next to a structure.
Because the same termites that will eat a live tree will also eat the dead wood in your house, and can do so at the same time.
Matt, where do many builders put the rubbish from the lot? Under the home is quite normal.
Thats a good layer of protection, but I'd be drilling a perimeter of holes and pumping in termidor or at the very least bifenthrin.
Or trenching because of unseen impermeable soil compositions that leave huge gaps in perimeter freatments. Nobody liked digging so its now not needed.
@@danielbuckner2167 right! trenching or drilling but either way treating the soil. bait stations are great 10 feet away from the foundation as a first line.
@@jason-ge5nr Its termites, not elephants. 😐 Thats flying to Alaska to shoot bears to protect people in Texas. A good termiticide applied CORRECTLY doesnt need a back up or a first line.😁
@@danielbuckner2167 so you see my point that putting out bait stations isn't really applying termiticide. So a bait station drawing 'em on in without treating the soil is folly
@@jason-ge5nr Glad you agree
Ants only eat rotten wood...?
Orkin had similar product many years ago.
When the middle pops up what
My neighbor across the street had this system from Terminix , the damn termites almost ate all of his sill beams under his house, it cost Terminix thousands to replace his floor jousts and sill beams.
Yep!!!! Don’t work at killing the colony only reduces the population! There are better products on the market! Don’t get fooled into a bait station they are old news!
Can't say that I'm shocked. I don't know why anyone would want to basically put a buffet out for termites. I'd rather trench and put an actual chemical down.
Terminix doesn’t use sentricon. They use Trelona. They received a major incentive to switch from Sentricon to Trelona due to their agreement to purchase large quantities of a certain pesticide (manufactured by the same company as the bait system) for their household pest control side.
@@emthompson10 They use to use it then, that’s what my neighbor told me.
Must be expensive with how vague he was on pricing...
Here is what I found on the web: "The average cost of a Sentricon baiting system is $1,200-$3,800 for initial installation and $280 for yearly monitoring." Since they are placed about every 10 feet, it depends on how big your foundation is, and obviously labor charges vary quite a bit by location.
For my 2800 SF home we paid about $600-700 last year. Annual check was less than $300.
@@matthewtuel2747 One story, or two stories. It depends on the size of the foundation.
Yeah and those bait stations have to be replaced annually. Gets very expensive. Chem treat every 10 yrs a much better option
@@mark9118 this is a very good assessment. We don’t use the things they are old!!! There are far better treatments that are cheaper out there!
What about non chemical options if you don't want to poison your kids?
Skinny jeans...ready for ballet !
He forgot a system! Termidor HP II it’s what we use here it’s superior to sentricon! Bait systems are old news and better products are on the market!
Sentricon will also not kill a whole colony! It is made to reduce the numbers not eliminate
@@danielwhite7159
Why then did he say it will spread throughout the colony and eliminate it.
@@scotttovey to make money....?
And then make more money when you have to buy more later?
Thanks.
What's the cost like for a small house?
@@scotttovey I really don’t know why that was said it will not eradicate a colony. Several test where done and it only lowers the colony numbers. The only product I am certain will eradicate a colony is Termidor. That is applied either trench and treat or with an injection machine like the one we have.
Hey Matt when you going to build me a house :)
Living in a country where the wildlife does not eat the house does have an advantage
Sentticon works, but it is also over priced. You will be giving Tyler 300-450 per year for the rest of your life! Like marriage!
Has anyone looked into or researched the ecological impacts of baiting systems that destroy the termite colony? Make sure their are not negative unintended consequences.
Why, termites suck and need to be destroyed. If a few ants, snails die, who cares. It doesn't hurt the water table.
@@augustreil Just curious. Ecological systems are complex and making changes to them often have unforseen consequences.
@@RobertBierma, I don't disagree, but what are the changes that you're talking about ? Thanks.
@@augustreil not sure about termites but a Good example is rat poison it, kills the rats but it also tends to kill cats dogs birds of prey etc. That eat them. Or toddlers who find the bait. So I much prefer using traps.
@@FreekHoekstra The mouse/rat poison will kill Owls that eat the rodent that had not died yet.
How long does it take for bait stations to actually work. Up to a year, YES? SO THOSE LITTLE BUGʻERS ARE EATING AWAY FOR ALL THAT TIME.
BE HONEST WITH YOUR PRODUCT.😢😢😢
moulting dogs, the horror
Don't really understand why he is worried about termites on a brick build. Maybe near the trees..
Termites will get inside a brick home through plumbing routes and cracks in a poured concrete foundation.
it’s only a brick veneer on a timber frame Many timber framed houses get eaten beyond repair in Australia.
😎👍✌🖖👌😁
i have been in some 100 year old house and the framing is free of termites. this shit has to be like a bug zapper. No matter how many bugs it zaps it attracts more, so its about the same as no bug zapper. except you are guaranteed to have bugs. So you actually want to give bug zappers as gifts to your neighbors. then the bugs go to their houses, away from your house. plus they pay for electricity and have to clean up the dead bugs.
No, there are no termites in snow country, where the ground freezes.
SCUM COMPANY.
He’s so short lol
I don't think he's doing it on purpose. Also I'm pretty sure Matt is taller than average.
this is what you get from this video? XD
You must be insecure
Some people are short in height and then others like you are short in intelligence!
@@n2shaver burn oh man you got me