Several African slaves escaping from the South of the United States arrived in Mexico. The United States government asked that the fugitive slaves be returned to them, and Mexico responded that "their request must be a mistake, because there are no slaves in Mexico." And these African slaves were given land to live on.
You should read the book, South to Freedom. The discusses the history of African American slaves fleeing bondage in the southern United States to freedom in Mexico.
Mexican policy on slavery is total integration. You can marry, own land, get a job etc. This was done right away in Mexico when slavery ended. Slaves were totally absorbed into Mexican society. Integration in the U.S didn't begin until maybe the 1950's 60's.
Thanks for the insights. I think that Black people in America would be living under far different circumstances if there was a greater and cohesive effort to have the formerly enslaved become fully fledged members of society.
@@blackmenachievellc3770 I'm sorry but your feeling can't go against Mexican Law integration to society it's the law. In Mexico We don't have racism as it is, we have something called CLASSICISM, people that think because they have money they're better than others. We integrate all this immigrant from Haiti it's all over you tube. The Venezuela's??? Well that's another story.
I read this history years ago. Vincente father is African and Mexican. Vincent's father name Juan Pedro Guerrero. Great president to change his country and provide civil rights for all. Thank you
@@anthonypuccetti8779 there was no word for “black” people at that time he was born to a African decent mother and a Spanish father so he was mixed like the first generation of Mexicans were. He did have an african parent tho which is important to know since Africans in that area were thought to only be brought to the Americas as slaves but that’s not true. Spanish brought african moors to new Spain and even thought the natives of Mexico were moors cause of their completion and similarities of culture. Read up
@@BHTSGOHARD "there was no word for “black”" Negro. "he was born to a African decent mother and a Spanish father" His ethnic ancestry is unknown. Historians disagree about it.
@@anthonypuccetti8779 no shit that’s the word for the color black not African people in the 1400’s 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ they didn’t call Africans negroes they called them Africanos where they come from..
As a Mexican I am proud on how Mexico acted. They did not allow slavery and also were the first to allow black baseball players without racism. I wish nowadays Hispanics/Mexicans/Latinos and blacks would stick more together breaks my heart how some African Americans pick and bully our street vendors and don’t stick up for us. Divide continues. We need to stick together like we have in the past, but history is forgotten.
the problem is that USA black people have a slave-victim card that they sell to the white people to shame them and they tried that on us mexican-american and of course it failed because we had nothing to do with that. so the slave complex does not work on us, so they dont like us. a lot of black people on USA are freeloaders living on the government Tit, this was the government plan all along since the 40's.
You have Mexican gang bangers who racially bang on any black gang member they see a lot of times in Cali,you also have the Mexican Mafia ECT....all anti blk but want to be all up in hip hop culture.lol
We cant be united, when blacks are at war with everyone and themselves. Just look at your local nightly news, you see my point. No one in there right would live around them.
Great video,👍👍in Mexico we are to busy making ends meet, we don’t have time to look each other’s skin work and family takes most of our time! Love and peace ✌️✌️
we mexican people do not know anything about african americans in mexico, it is because the education system never mentions race, or nationality, we are taught that we are all mexicans, vicente guerrero is a hero of the independance of mexico. we all know his name, but not his afro ancentry.
@@gew2027That picture is incorrect, they referenced Africans since they never saw a Native. And mexicos asian population is small, as dna admix data shows.
I was watching TikTok and I saw a wedding in Nigeria I was shocked about the culture similarities and now I’m here in shock. I’m older and my family doesn’t speak too much about Mexican history I also am half Scottish so I know more on that half I’m in shock that I never knew this! It’s not that we are ignorant it’s our schools never spoke about this! We don’t want to stay uneducated we just don’t know. Being Chicana is something I have to learn and evolve into thank you for this!
Emblem of the Americas 1798 we're not black or Afican American. Definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 . We're the copper colored people of the Americas
@@gew2027Facts!My great hreat grandfather was from Texas in the mid 1800s.He was considered mexican and was chocolate brown and had been from texas and further south all his life.He also lived in Tishomingo Counrty(Indian Counrty)Alot of so called African Americans,Negroes,black ppl are INDIGENOUS to these lands.They tricked us by way of calling us African,Negroe and black,all misnomers!
His Mexicans mixed with black and he was born in state of Guerrero mexico where my gran gran parents where born and from in Guerrero mexico and Mexicans are ignorant that's rude
The help from Mexican people that helped slaves to cross the southern border has been ignored, due to scuadrons of slave hunters crossing in to Mexico the scape route was less organized than the north but it was important.
Emblem of the Americas 1798 Definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 we're the copper colored people of the Americas not black or Afican American. We are the real Americans
Its kinda sad how some black folks and every one in general dont believe or wanna believe this part of history but it really shows how duvided we really are as a human species and as society
Some facts about Vicente Guerrero.... By the end of the 1700's 1800's, there were not that many slaves left in the kingdom because most slaves had already bought their freedom, and by that era, it wasn't much of a business to the Spanish crown to keep having slaves, that's why slaves escaped to New Spain specially to St Augustine in Spanish Florida and to the rest of the kingdom... In Mexico's presidential elections of 1828, Vicente Guerrero had lost the election to Manuel Gómez Pedraza, since he didn't like the results he provoked a revolt and took power by force... He did enacted to end whatever was left of slavery but it never took effect because of his election illegitimacy. Vicente Guerrero policies allowed for Texas to be populated by Americans, and made exception for Americans to keep holding on their slaves, reason why many Americans were fleeing to Texas and 7 years later caused the Texas Revolution in 1835 ... Let's not forget he was a Freemason (York Rite Lodge). He was deposed of the presidency by Anastacio Bustamante in 1829 and was sentenced to death in 1831, and all of his policies were nullified. Slavery was truly ended in November 9th of 1839 by the Supreme Conservative Power "en el territorio mexicano ninguno es esclavo, ni noble o plebeyo por su origen. Todos sus habitantes son libres e iguales ante la ley, sin otras distinciones, que las que ella establezca en consideración a la virtud, a la capacidad y al servicio público".
Thank you for writing this. I was about to do it but I found your comment.. Over all Vicente Guerrero bit the hand that fed him, I am talking about Agustin Iturbide, He betrayed him and we all know what happened next, Mexico became a country with endless internal disuptes, lost more than half of its territory and became the US´s back yard. If Iturbide hadnt been betrayed, Mexico would be a world power.
Exactly, Agustín knew the country wasn't ready for Repúblic, he opted to go for a constitutional monarchy first so he can unify the country then gradually go for a complete independence, (just like what Brazil did) but his peers had different ideas which caused a lot of betrayals within one another. Vicente Guerrero was brave but not smart enough. He had too much influence by U.S. ambassador Joel Roberts Pointsett, who was holding the strings of México's políticians at that time. Which is one of the reasons main reasons why México lost its northern territories. People love to use Vicente Guerrero's ancestry because he had distant african ancestry, but his family wasn't a victim of slavery or opression, slavery was almost over at that time in New Spain, his father was a wealthy merchant, and Vicente was member of his local milita to defend New Spain. So he was far from opression.
@@intruzione Exactly. Regarding the slavery thing, you really need to give props to Queen Isabel of Spain for abolishing it (at least on the native level) But you can see black people in New Spain being very influential and powerfull. Slavery was not practiced the same way by the English as by the Spaniards. And I think Iturbide was too naive. He trusted that the Mexicans were as noble as he was and that they wanted what was best for the country If he wouldve wanted it, he could have crushed the rebellion, but he did not want to kill more Mexicans.
@@miguelalvarado6314 True, but Iturbide had the brains, but over trusted his liberal alliances. Of the independence leaders, Vicente was the least smartest of them all... The Freemasonry had most of these políticians in there pockets, the York rite and Scottish rite, both after a Repúblic and power. Not one did anything to create unity among the population, and the U.S. took advantage of that situation. The slavery situation wasn't abolished, but there were very few left (african) . In New Spain, you could of bought your freedom and most did, and some weren't interested. It was a very mixed society. There was no hierarchy in skin color, but rather social class. People use the caste paintings to falsely claim it was racist society, when in fact those pictures mean the mixes that happened in those kingdoms.
Mexico had the first black President of the Americas and also the first full blooded Indian named Benito Juarez, whom Benito Mussolini was named after.
Mexicans are half breeds native american indian and spainards. All mexicans dna have native american blood in them. Average dna of mexican is half native american indian.
@@eddie-roo no, but it doesn't make him just african like most blacks want to make it out to be. see the hypocrisy? he didn't say black and indigenous president, he said first black president. why is a problem when I come to defend with proper evidence pointing that he is predominantly indigenous but no issue when he was considered just black. 🤦🏽♂️
The funny thing is I bet none of you are from Guerrero the state where Vicente was born named after him or as Some of you might just know it by the city of Acapulco an old ship port not just a tourist attraction. The little African influence there can mostly be found along the coastal areas. There’s a Mexican stereotype “costiño” a indigenous afro mix person either way they are Mexican most importantly Guerrerense a unique identity. the state is made up mostly of indigenous dna to the point that other states made up of more Spanish dna look down on both the state of Guerrero and Oaxaca as inferior to them. Don’t be surprised Mexico is also very racist especially against indigenous people making us the butt of every joke. It’s funny to see other Mexicans fight so hard for one of our state hero’s but the hypocrisy doesn’t surprise me they want our culture but not us. If you guys are truly indigenous and mad do something about Austria having the Aztec crown in one of they’re museums that’s something to make your blood boil! In our state we also have the Olmec heads, that African Americans want to claim so bad for some reason…just because African influence showed up hundreds of years after the heads were made l in our lands, doesn’t make the Olmecs African the people in this area identity as indigenous Mexicans but overall Guerrerense 🐆
This doesn’t qualify as a piece in black history month. It is a misrepresentation of Vicente Guerrero .While Mexico has African contribution. It is small. Most have a low percentage. Even amongst the group that has significant amount many relate to the Mexican culture formed predominantly by Spanish and Indian people. While some still relate to their African descent and heritage it is still a Mexican history and background. Not a “black” one.
These profiles are created year-round not just for Black History Month. You stated this is a misrepresentation of Vincente Guerrero but didn't explain how. Instead you went on to discuss Mexico in general. The profile is not about Mexico but rather one individual from Mexico. You then conflated race (Black/ African descent) with nationality (Mexican). They are two categories but an individual can be included in both. You seem to be implying that Mexicans regardless of admixture are not Black because of their Mexican culture. That's an agenda, not logic.
@@NoireHistory your perspective is skewed,based on an American concept of race. Black history month is a primarily US concept for Americans of black descent. Your conflating race with shared identity. That’s STEREOTYPING and very misleading. It’s an oversimplification of complex history. This undermines 500 years of significant history and separation. Which created a SPECIFIC identity that you can’t cherry pick from.Mexican is a nationality but it’s much more than that. It’s a mixed story that is shared by those people and cherished as an identity. You are ignoring that by combining groups of people who have a distant relation that’s not relevant in any way. That’s an exaggerated connection. Black Mexicans share more in common with non black Mexicans than non Mexican blacks. What’s not logical is that Your generalizing groups of people that really don’t have any connection. That’s an injustice to Mexicans and their history. People in America mainly have this view. Other countries have pride from what’s mostly in common between each other. They don’t obsess with categorizing each other based on some differences. That’s counterproductive.
@@keithnelson7629 you understand he doesn’t relate to you right? He’s not the black you relate to. Your people weren’t apart of Mexican history. He’s Mexican. Your not. You can’t cherry pick Mexican history and use it to represent you. That’s appropriation and disrespectful to a history and culture you don’t belong to. There are different kinds of black people and the differences makes y’all not relatable. Black Americans don’t understand this but study Africa ad you’ll see hundreds of different ethnicities who don’t see each other the same and they’re all “black”
@@gabriellopez-mw8qc well Vicente Guerrero seen us all the same that's why he told the African slaves from America if they escape they could come to Mexico long live Vicente Guerrero y'all killed him because he was black facts
Vicente was 3 fourths mexican, and a fourth black. You blacks need to stop calling him black when he was way more mexican then you think. He was a Mexican president stop grabbing at our people and trying to claim vicente as yours.
Definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 . Emblem of the Americas 1798 we're the copper colored people of the Americas not black or Afican American.Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives
Guerrero was fully mexican, but he was mixed black and indigenous. Both his blackness and indigeneity affected and shaped him. He’s a part of mexican black and Mexican indigenous history. People like to erase both facets of his ancestry and instead only recognize Juarez as the only indigenous mexican president.
Puerto ricans have african dna in them but you blacks dont give bo credit to puerto ricans for building hip hop? It seems black america only acknowledge of you done something great as tiger woods. Blacks said he was a black american but tiger woods never claimed he was a black man
He wasn't black. Black historians claimed that he was to give black people something to be proud about like they did with claiming that the Egyptians and the tribes of the americas were black.
You must live in a cave like the Flintstones in history lesson.he is of African connection just like Jose Maria Morelos ...yes there is historians but Mexican historians have proof and evidence of his African connection 🤨
Their is one more that people don't imagine of him being half black and he is one of the revolution heroes, EMILIANO ZAPATA , his grand parents were black
Your skin color has nothing to do or your hair color or the texture of your hair has nothing to do of your race I seen Mexicans with curly hair straight hair same with people from Africa that has straight hair and curly hair the hair has something to do with working in the fields or out in the sun a protected us from the heat the Africans that don’t have Afros they were out of the sun and hidden away so they was able to keep their straight hair I learned that in a video and it makes perfect sense being a certain race or whatever you’re trying to say has nothing to do with anything culture has nothing to do with anything all in all he was mixed and he had half 50% black any other was negative which is some form of black nobody trying to steal your culture wanna be anything
I feel like you’re referring that to yourself someone said this and I totally agree a lot of Mexicans claim that their addiction is just so I can get free benefits indigenous typo in and then they claim they Hispanics in Spain is a part of Spanish Mexicans are something else you can’t be one of the other lol😩🤣🤣🤣 it’s sad how Black people hate each other even in other countries Dominicans they hate Black people a lot of them are racist and they feel they realize they’re black they even have the curly hair white people don’t like Black people but they don’t hate us like this but you would expect that because a lot of them are 100% white some have black ancestry but still we hate each other this much where we don’t want to be seen or even considered in the same contacts or the same facility
And most likely you’re born in America so you’re not even Mexican you’re something else they don’t consider Mexicans that are born in America Mexican with a second population in Mexico consider themselves black why the last but not least population is full-blooded white Mexicans in the other is Asians that are full blooded or Asian and Arabic Everything other except black that’s a huge number seen not a lot of people live in Mexico because the population keeps declining dramatically because MAsk killings in Mexico is fleeing their country and other problems
First off His father was An indigenous and his mother was half black .. Second , it was Mexican Citizens (mestizos and indigenous )won the war independence ...blacks did not play a part in this war
Some sources detail his father as having been a Black Mexican or mixed Black Mexican and his mother as indigenous, while others explain it as the reverse. I went with the former because those sources cited their sources, which included the same breakdown. For individuals who lived in the distant past, the details of their lives with regard to date, place, and circumstances of birth are often not exact, conflict, or are estimated. Either way, the point was that Guerrero was of mixed heritage with one parent being of some type of African descent. If you refer to the title and the actual content of the video it doesn't state that Black people, in general, played a role in this war. The video and title focus specifically on Vincente Guerrero and HIS role in the war, how HE became president, and the impact of HIS policies on Mexican society and slavery.
@@NoireHistory his dad was a mixed man and the mom was full indigenous. That would make him 75 percent native Mexican with 25 percent African . Us Mexican don’t even think our selves as Spaniards. Even doe the average Mexican has about 25 percent froM Spain. Mexicos afro community has been mixing with indigenous and Spanish dna for over a hundred years. My point is that Afro Mexicans have little in common with African Americans
@@hnewman2907 all wrong. I base my arguements based on the real world. Cause as you know even data can be modified or generalized to fit someones narrative. Just like generalizing a great percentage of latinamerica as "mestizo".
Si su papá era Moreno en el sentido de Africa si es aunque no lo vea exactamente, la gente es lo q su padre es no la madre ; por ejemplo si su padre fuera Blanco de Europa y digamos q su madre fuera una africana morena con piel mas oscura en esa instancia aunque El Niño salga mas oscuro que el Vicente Guerrero que si existió no sería Moreno sería europeo hijo de Japheth.
@@charlesleeray8512with enough admixture of straight hair women in there like Native Americans who are known for thick straight hair in those times; he’s still black for example in today’s pop culture the Tate Brothers don’t exactly have nappy hair especially Tristan Tate , he’s far from having it nappy and is a happy coincidence that he’s texture is similar to Vicente Guerrero , but if u look at there father he looks more black with nappier hair if u will , and even nappier if u go farther back on the patriarchal line , so u see that argument is irrelevant in the context of multiracial person u can’t really base it all on looks or hair texture , so just like Andrew and Tristan Tate he is of Shem a black man even if it’s to the point where they look less African that their great fore fathers ; I’ll take it a step farther with the Tate example, look at the type women their with Ukrainian European women; u think children coming out of those pairings will have nappy hair lol, no they won’t you’d think their European but the gift of the great fore father is black so they are black , now if a daughter of Shem gets with a son of Japheth guess what those children out of that paring would be Of Japheth not Shem Wich in this example that’s what the mother would be a daughter of Shem
And no he is and will be Mexican beacuse it was in Mexico where he did all this things that he did where he rose to prominence and where he was born , not in the US and not in Africa . That’s overlooking obstacles people of other lands put against black people and is taking credit for Mexico beating the us and the African nations where most if not all the presidents where of Ham not Shem , he was of Shems line the line that was snuffed out of there promised land , and taken into captivity in the americas , sold to the sons of Japheth by Sons of Ham; even beating America to this day where they have Barack Obama as there first black president Wich is a good thing but more than likely he is a Son Of Ham Wich is indicated by his fathers origin, so Mexico in this sphere of the world had the first Black president Descendent of Shems line.
Yeah Vicente Guerrero, I don't think he was black. Lol. I was just reading that he was described as having bronze skin, bright and light colored eyes and an aquiline nose. That's native and European features. And you don't really see Black Mexicans and even the dark skin Mexicans have more native and European facial features. Ya spreading false information
Several African slaves escaping from the South of the United States arrived in Mexico. The United States government asked that the fugitive slaves be returned to them, and Mexico responded that "their request must be a mistake, because there are no slaves in Mexico." And these African slaves were given land to live on.
As soon as they Stepped in Mexican soil They were free slaves by law
@@sonicboom86 yes.
El padre y fundador de la patria vicente guerrero era afromexicano el.verdadero héroe de la independencia mexicana
Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives the Trans Pacific Slave trade
You should read the book, South to Freedom. The discusses the history of African American slaves fleeing bondage in the southern United States to freedom in Mexico.
Great video and I thoroughly enjoyed it!! Thank you!! Very empowering for me as a black man.💛💛
Mexican policy on slavery is total integration. You can marry, own land, get a job etc. This was done right away in Mexico when slavery ended. Slaves were totally absorbed into Mexican society. Integration in the U.S didn't begin until maybe the 1950's 60's.
Thanks for the insights. I think that Black people in America would be living under far different circumstances if there was a greater and cohesive effort to have the formerly enslaved become fully fledged members of society.
Saying totally absorbed is not true. Not with the amount of anti blackness that occurred. There’s serious nuance missing here
@@NoireHistorybecause of the brain wash school system and etc teaching forbidden history that was forbidden by the whites
@@blackmenachievellc3770 Mexican policy is integration. Sure there are some anti black sentiments. The policy does not change.
@@blackmenachievellc3770 I'm sorry but your feeling can't go against Mexican Law integration to society it's the law. In Mexico We don't have racism as it is, we have something called CLASSICISM, people that think because they have money they're better than others. We integrate all this immigrant from Haiti it's all over you tube. The Venezuela's??? Well that's another story.
I read this history years ago. Vincente father is African and Mexican. Vincent's father name Juan Pedro Guerrero. Great president to change his country and provide civil rights for all.
Thank you
Thank you for sharing our history, we need to know this!!
Exactly it’s a shame that Mexican Americans could never learn about our history in the US unless it’s a University course.
Mexico is rich in history and culture
I agree.
Indeed
@@NoireHistoryOur culture was rich before the land was.called Mexico. Emblem of the Americas 1798
@@gew2027Drawn by an artist that never set foot in the Americas or saw a native. So he drew Africans, people they had already made contact with
Thanks for speaking on this history. Many Mexicans can be ignorant and not know of their African history but a lot of us are proud of it 🇲🇽🇲🇽✌️✌️👍🏽👍🏽
He wasn't black. No one in his time said he was.
@@anthonypuccetti8779 there was no word for “black” people at that time he was born to a African decent mother and a Spanish father so he was mixed like the first generation of Mexicans were. He did have an african parent tho which is important to know since Africans in that area were thought to only be brought to the Americas as slaves but that’s not true. Spanish brought african moors to new Spain and even thought the natives of Mexico were moors cause of their completion and similarities of culture. Read up
@@BHTSGOHARD "there was no word for “black”"
Negro.
"he was born to a African decent mother and a Spanish father"
His ethnic ancestry is unknown. Historians disagree about it.
@@anthonypuccetti8779 no shit that’s the word for the color black not African people in the 1400’s 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ they didn’t call Africans negroes they called them Africanos where they come from..
Historia y Civismo,te enseñavan desce 3ro a 5to 6to Historia Iniversal.
Los libros de texto eran grstuitos
LA PATRIA ES PRIMERO tanks for this video, it was make with love🎉🎉🎉🎉🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽 GRACIAS
I'm pretty sure Jose Maria Morelos was also Mulato and had black descent. And they both are Legends.
As a Mexican I am proud on how Mexico acted. They did not allow slavery and also were the first to allow black baseball players without racism. I wish nowadays Hispanics/Mexicans/Latinos and blacks would stick more together breaks my heart how some African Americans pick and bully our street vendors and don’t stick up for us. Divide continues. We need to stick together like we have in the past, but history is forgotten.
the problem is that USA black people have a slave-victim card that they sell to the white people to shame them and they tried that on us mexican-american and of course it failed because we had nothing to do with that.
so the slave complex does not work on us, so they dont like us.
a lot of black people on USA are freeloaders living on the government Tit, this was the government plan all along since the 40's.
You have Mexican gang bangers who racially bang on any black gang member they see a lot of times in Cali,you also have the Mexican Mafia ECT....all anti blk but want to be all up in hip hop culture.lol
Emblem of the Americas 1798 we were already here
What about the racist Hispanics that attack us?
We cant be united, when blacks are at war with everyone and themselves. Just look at your local nightly news, you see my point. No one in there right would live around them.
LA PATRIA ES PRIMERO!
a huevo.
Vicente Guerrero es un HEROE nacional.
He was an incredible man!
Great video,👍👍in Mexico we are to busy making ends meet, we don’t have time to look each other’s skin work and family takes most of our time! Love and peace ✌️✌️
Great video!
Very good video my entire family and I are from xonacatla, guerrero, mexico
Gente de Guerrero nos robaron las tierras mas fertiles de Mexico.Y bien que se comen nuestra comida mexicana
My ancestors are from Guerrero I carry the blood of Guerrero fkn warrior 😤 💪
Cool, I hope ur not racist like other Mexicans
we mexican people do not know anything about african americans in mexico, it is because the education system never mentions race, or nationality, we are taught that we are all mexicans, vicente guerrero is a hero of the independance of mexico. we all know his name, but not his afro ancentry.
Emblem of the Americas 1798 the people before there was a Mexico. Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives the Trans Pacific Slave trade
@@gew2027so are you saying the current Mexicans we know of today came from Asia as slaves?
@@JamesBrooks-hj3dz It's not me.look up Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives the Trans Pacific Slave trade
@@JamesBrooks-hj3dz look up Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives and u should understand
@@gew2027That picture is incorrect, they referenced Africans since they never saw a Native. And mexicos asian population is small, as dna admix data shows.
WE ARE VERY PROUD OF OUR PRESIDENTE VICENTE GUERRERO GREAT LEADER GREAT MAN OVER ALL AMAZING HUMAN BEING
So why did u guys kill him?
I was watching TikTok and I saw a wedding in Nigeria I was shocked about the culture similarities and now I’m here in shock. I’m older and my family doesn’t speak too much about Mexican history I also am half Scottish so I know more on that half I’m in shock that I never knew this! It’s not that we are ignorant it’s our schools never spoke about this! We don’t want to stay uneducated we just don’t know. Being Chicana is something I have to learn and evolve into thank you for this!
good job
A lot of black Americans don’t know this about Mexico
Mhmm 2pac
Bc when would we have been taught this? They don’t even teach black American history correctly
Because some of them brainwash by the system
Emblem of the Americas 1798 we're not black or Afican American. Definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 . We're the copper colored people of the Americas
@@gew2027Facts!My great hreat grandfather was from Texas in the mid 1800s.He was considered mexican and was chocolate brown and had been from texas and further south all his life.He also lived in Tishomingo Counrty(Indian Counrty)Alot of so called African Americans,Negroes,black ppl are INDIGENOUS to these lands.They tricked us by way of calling us African,Negroe and black,all misnomers!
My friend’s descendant of him! It’s very interesting
His Mexicans mixed with black and he was born in state of Guerrero mexico where my gran gran parents where born and from in Guerrero mexico and Mexicans are ignorant that's rude
The help from Mexican people that helped slaves to cross the southern border has been ignored, due to scuadrons of slave hunters crossing in to Mexico the scape route was less organized than the north but it was important.
Emblem of the Americas 1798 Definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 we're the copper colored people of the Americas not black or Afican American. We are the real Americans
Its kinda sad how some black folks and every one in general dont believe or wanna believe this part of history but it really shows how duvided we really are as a human species and as society
No one in the US is really taught Mexican history sadly. Especially for Mexicans living in the US, it’s our ancestors history.
Emblem of the Americas 1798 Mexican s don't want to believe this part of hisy
Some facts about Vicente Guerrero.... By the end of the 1700's 1800's, there were not that many slaves left in the kingdom because most slaves had already bought their freedom, and by that era, it wasn't much of a business to the Spanish crown to keep having slaves, that's why slaves escaped to New Spain specially to St Augustine in Spanish Florida and to the rest of the kingdom... In Mexico's presidential elections of 1828, Vicente Guerrero had lost the election to Manuel Gómez Pedraza, since he didn't like the results he provoked a revolt and took power by force... He did enacted to end whatever was left of slavery but it never took effect because of his election illegitimacy. Vicente Guerrero policies allowed for Texas to be populated by Americans, and made exception for Americans to keep holding on their slaves, reason why many Americans were fleeing to Texas and 7 years later caused the Texas Revolution in 1835 ... Let's not forget he was a Freemason (York Rite Lodge). He was deposed of the presidency by Anastacio Bustamante in 1829 and was sentenced to death in 1831, and all of his policies were nullified. Slavery was truly ended in November 9th of 1839 by the Supreme Conservative Power "en el territorio mexicano ninguno es esclavo, ni noble o plebeyo por su origen. Todos sus habitantes son libres e iguales ante la ley, sin otras distinciones, que las que ella establezca en consideración a la virtud, a la capacidad y al servicio público".
Thank you for writing this. I was about to do it but I found your comment.. Over all Vicente Guerrero bit the hand that fed him, I am talking about Agustin Iturbide, He betrayed him and we all know what happened next, Mexico became a country with endless internal disuptes, lost more than half of its territory and became the US´s back yard. If Iturbide hadnt been betrayed, Mexico would be a world power.
Exactly, Agustín knew the country wasn't ready for Repúblic, he opted to go for a constitutional monarchy first so he can unify the country then gradually go for a complete independence, (just like what Brazil did) but his peers had different ideas which caused a lot of betrayals within one another. Vicente Guerrero was brave but not smart enough. He had too much influence by U.S. ambassador Joel Roberts Pointsett, who was holding the strings of México's políticians at that time. Which is one of the reasons main reasons why México lost its northern territories. People love to use Vicente Guerrero's ancestry because he had distant african ancestry, but his family wasn't a victim of slavery or opression, slavery was almost over at that time in New Spain, his father was a wealthy merchant, and Vicente was member of his local milita to defend New Spain. So he was far from opression.
@@intruzione Exactly. Regarding the slavery thing, you really need to give props to Queen Isabel of Spain for abolishing it (at least on the native level) But you can see black people in New Spain being very influential and powerfull. Slavery was not practiced the same way by the English as by the Spaniards.
And I think Iturbide was too naive. He trusted that the Mexicans were as noble as he was and that they wanted what was best for the country If he wouldve wanted it, he could have crushed the rebellion, but he did not want to kill more Mexicans.
@@miguelalvarado6314 True, but Iturbide had the brains, but over trusted his liberal alliances. Of the independence leaders, Vicente was the least smartest of them all... The Freemasonry had most of these políticians in there pockets, the York rite and Scottish rite, both after a Repúblic and power. Not one did anything to create unity among the population, and the U.S. took advantage of that situation.
The slavery situation wasn't abolished, but there were very few left (african) . In New Spain, you could of bought your freedom and most did, and some weren't interested. It was a very mixed society. There was no hierarchy in skin color, but rather social class. People use the caste paintings to falsely claim it was racist society, when in fact those pictures mean the mixes that happened in those kingdoms.
The eliminitor of slaveri was MORELOS,.
Puede que Morelos haya declarado el fin de la esclavitud, pero Guerrero lo ratificó y lo hizo ley. Ni Iturbide ni Guadalupe Victoria hicieron eso.
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Mexico had the first black President of the Americas and also the first full blooded Indian named Benito Juarez, whom Benito Mussolini was named after.
He wasn't black 🤣 His father was black and Indigenous, the mother was FULL INDIGENOUS. Please enough with the erasure.
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Mexicans are half breeds native american indian and spainards. All mexicans dna have native american blood in them. Average dna of mexican is half native american indian.
@@Zapp760the fact he was mixed black and indigenous does not erase his blackness nor his indigeneity
@@eddie-roo no, but it doesn't make him just african like most blacks want to make it out to be. see the hypocrisy? he didn't say black and indigenous president, he said first black president.
why is a problem when I come to defend with proper evidence pointing that he is predominantly indigenous but no issue when he was considered just black. 🤦🏽♂️
The funny thing is I bet none of you are from Guerrero the state where Vicente was born named after him or as Some of you might just know it by the city of Acapulco an old ship port not just a tourist attraction. The little African influence there can mostly be found along the coastal areas. There’s a Mexican stereotype “costiño” a indigenous afro mix person either way they are Mexican most importantly Guerrerense a unique identity. the state is made up mostly of indigenous dna to the point that other states made up of more Spanish dna look down on both the state of Guerrero and Oaxaca as inferior to them. Don’t be surprised Mexico is also very racist especially against indigenous people making us the butt of every joke. It’s funny to see other Mexicans fight so hard for one of our state hero’s but the hypocrisy doesn’t surprise me they want our culture but not us. If you guys are truly indigenous and mad do something about Austria having the Aztec crown in one of they’re museums that’s something to make your blood boil! In our state we also have the Olmec heads, that African Americans want to claim so bad for some reason…just because African influence showed up hundreds of years after the heads were made l in our lands, doesn’t make the Olmecs African the people in this area identity as indigenous Mexicans but overall Guerrerense 🐆
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Vincente father's name, Juan Pedro Guerrero, was African and Mexican. Those dont know history.
Stop being so incredible, disbelief. .
This doesn’t qualify as a piece in black history month. It is a misrepresentation of Vicente Guerrero .While Mexico has African contribution. It is small. Most have a low percentage. Even amongst the group that has significant amount many relate to the Mexican culture formed predominantly by Spanish and Indian people. While some still relate to their African descent and heritage it is still a Mexican history and background. Not a “black” one.
These profiles are created year-round not just for Black History Month. You stated this is a misrepresentation of Vincente Guerrero but didn't explain how. Instead you went on to discuss Mexico in general. The profile is not about Mexico but rather one individual from Mexico. You then conflated race (Black/ African descent) with nationality (Mexican). They are two categories but an individual can be included in both.
You seem to be implying that Mexicans regardless of admixture are not Black because of their Mexican culture. That's an agenda, not logic.
@@NoireHistory your perspective is skewed,based on an American concept of race. Black history month is a primarily US concept for Americans of black descent. Your conflating race with shared identity. That’s STEREOTYPING and very misleading. It’s an oversimplification of complex history. This undermines 500 years of significant history and separation. Which created a SPECIFIC identity that you can’t cherry pick from.Mexican is a nationality but it’s much more than that. It’s a mixed story that is shared by those people and cherished as an identity. You are ignoring that by combining groups of people who have a distant relation that’s not relevant in any way. That’s an exaggerated connection. Black Mexicans share more in common with non black Mexicans than non Mexican blacks. What’s not logical is that Your generalizing groups of people that really don’t have any connection. That’s an injustice to Mexicans and their history. People in America mainly have this view. Other countries have pride from what’s mostly in common between each other. They don’t obsess with categorizing each other based on some differences. That’s counterproductive.
Gasper yanga another black hero of Mexico has a statue of him in vercruz Mexico
@@keithnelson7629 you understand he doesn’t relate to you right? He’s not the black you relate to. Your people weren’t apart of Mexican history. He’s Mexican. Your not. You can’t cherry pick Mexican history and use it to represent you. That’s appropriation and disrespectful to a history and culture you don’t belong to. There are different kinds of black people and the differences makes y’all not relatable. Black Americans don’t understand this but study Africa ad you’ll see hundreds of different ethnicities who don’t see each other the same and they’re all “black”
@@gabriellopez-mw8qc well Vicente Guerrero seen us all the same that's why he told the African slaves from America if they escape they could come to Mexico long live Vicente Guerrero y'all killed him because he was black facts
Vicente was 3 fourths mexican, and a fourth black. You blacks need to stop calling him black when he was way more mexican then you think. He was a Mexican president stop grabbing at our people and trying to claim vicente as yours.
I don't think they're trying to claim him but acknowledge him and give credit where it's due
Do not be that stupid he was a proud black mexican. And mexican proud of him
Definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 . Emblem of the Americas 1798 we're the copper colored people of the Americas not black or Afican American.Asian Slaves in Colonial Mexico from Chinos to Natives
Guerrero was fully mexican, but he was mixed black and indigenous. Both his blackness and indigeneity affected and shaped him. He’s a part of mexican black and Mexican indigenous history.
People like to erase both facets of his ancestry and instead only recognize Juarez as the only indigenous mexican president.
Puerto ricans have african dna in them but you blacks dont give bo credit to puerto ricans for building hip hop? It seems black america only acknowledge of you done something great as tiger woods. Blacks said he was a black american but tiger woods never claimed he was a black man
He wasn't black. Black historians claimed that he was to give black people something to be proud about like they did with claiming that the Egyptians and the tribes of the americas were black.
You must live in a cave like the Flintstones in history lesson.he is of African connection just like Jose Maria Morelos ...yes there is historians but Mexican historians have proof and evidence of his African connection 🤨
He was *mulato.*
@@adolforuiz6031he was mulatto like President Obama. Obama is NOT black he is MIXED race!
If his father was of African decent he is even if he Dosent look it , people are what there fathers are
@maxferreti5923 So why do African Americans call themselves african when many of their fathers were European descent slave masters?
His father was a Mestizo and his mother was of African origin.
No his father was black and indio and the mother was FULL INDIGENOUS, he's indigenous.
No he was not, Vicente Guerrero's ethnicity was African, Spanish European, and Native American.
Their is one more that people don't imagine of him being half black and he is one of the revolution heroes, EMILIANO ZAPATA , his grand parents were black
He was not black. He might have been of mixed blood. But not black. He was Mestizo. Funny how blacks want to attach themselves to our history.
Your skin color has nothing to do or your hair color or the texture of your hair has nothing to do of your race I seen Mexicans with curly hair straight hair same with people from Africa that has straight hair and curly hair the hair has something to do with working in the fields or out in the sun a protected us from the heat the Africans that don’t have Afros they were out of the sun and hidden away so they was able to keep their straight hair I learned that in a video and it makes perfect sense being a certain race or whatever you’re trying to say has nothing to do with anything culture has nothing to do with anything all in all he was mixed and he had half 50% black any other was negative which is some form of black nobody trying to steal your culture wanna be anything
I feel like you’re referring that to yourself someone said this and I totally agree a lot of Mexicans claim that their addiction is just so I can get free benefits indigenous typo in and then they claim they Hispanics in Spain is a part of Spanish Mexicans are something else you can’t be one of the other lol😩🤣🤣🤣 it’s sad how Black people hate each other even in other countries Dominicans they hate Black people a lot of them are racist and they feel they realize they’re black they even have the curly hair white people don’t like Black people but they don’t hate us like this but you would expect that because a lot of them are 100% white some have black ancestry but still we hate each other this much where we don’t want to be seen or even considered in the same contacts or the same facility
And most likely you’re born in America so you’re not even Mexican you’re something else they don’t consider Mexicans that are born in America Mexican with a second population in Mexico consider themselves black why the last but not least population is full-blooded white Mexicans in the other is Asians that are full blooded or Asian and Arabic Everything other except black that’s a huge number seen not a lot of people live in Mexico because the population keeps declining dramatically because MAsk killings in Mexico is fleeing their country and other problems
you’re only proving them FBAs right smh
he was still part black.
First off His father was An indigenous and his mother was half black ..
Second , it was Mexican Citizens (mestizos and indigenous )won the war independence ...blacks did not play a part in this war
Some sources detail his father as having been a Black Mexican or mixed Black Mexican and his mother as indigenous, while others explain it as the reverse. I went with the former because those sources cited their sources, which included the same breakdown. For individuals who lived in the distant past, the details of their lives with regard to date, place, and circumstances of birth are often not exact, conflict, or are estimated. Either way, the point was that Guerrero was of mixed heritage with one parent being of some type of African descent.
If you refer to the title and the actual content of the video it doesn't state that Black people, in general, played a role in this war. The video and title focus specifically on Vincente Guerrero and HIS role in the war, how HE became president, and the impact of HIS policies on Mexican society and slavery.
The video is on Vicente guerrero. Chill out OP you're too stimulated for no reason.
@@NoireHistory his dad was a mixed man and the mom was full indigenous. That would make him 75 percent native Mexican with 25 percent African . Us Mexican don’t even think our selves as Spaniards. Even doe the average Mexican has about 25 percent froM Spain. Mexicos afro community has been mixing with indigenous and Spanish dna for over a hundred years. My point is that Afro Mexicans have little in common with African Americans
It was mostly indigenous who fought. Mestizos don't really exist. Mexico is not as mixed as people believe.
@@hnewman2907 all wrong. I base my arguements based on the real world. Cause as you know even data can be modified or generalized to fit someones narrative. Just like generalizing a great percentage of latinamerica as "mestizo".
Nunca era negro..nada Mas porque los Españoles le dican el negro Guerrero por su tez Morena
Si era mulato.
Si su papá era Moreno en el sentido de Africa si es aunque no lo vea exactamente, la gente es lo q su padre es no la madre ; por ejemplo si su padre fuera Blanco de Europa y digamos q su madre fuera una africana morena con piel mas oscura en esa instancia aunque El Niño salga mas oscuro que el Vicente Guerrero que si existió no sería Moreno sería europeo hijo de Japheth.
@@vikkigonzalez4773 No es cierto! los negros historiadores lo inventaron
Vicente Guerrero to me was more African than Mexican Africa to the world 🌎🌍🌍
His hair ain't even nappy...
@@charlesleeray8512 yeah but not all Africans are nappyheaded
@@charlesleeray8512with enough admixture of straight hair women in there like Native Americans who are known for thick straight hair in those times; he’s still black for example in today’s pop culture the Tate Brothers don’t exactly have nappy hair especially Tristan Tate , he’s far from having it nappy and is a happy coincidence that he’s texture is similar to Vicente Guerrero , but if u look at there father he looks more black with nappier hair if u will , and even nappier if u go farther back on the patriarchal line , so u see that argument is irrelevant in the context of multiracial person u can’t really base it all on looks or hair texture , so just like Andrew and Tristan Tate he is of Shem a black man even if it’s to the point where they look less African that their great fore fathers ; I’ll take it a step farther with the Tate example, look at the type women their with Ukrainian European women; u think children coming out of those pairings will have nappy hair lol, no they won’t you’d think their European but the gift of the great fore father is black so they are black , now if a daughter of Shem gets with a son of Japheth guess what those children out of that paring would be Of Japheth not Shem Wich in this example that’s what the mother would be a daughter of Shem
And no he is and will be Mexican beacuse it was in Mexico where he did all this things that he did where he rose to prominence and where he was born , not in the US and not in Africa . That’s overlooking obstacles people of other lands put against black people and is taking credit for Mexico beating the us and the African nations where most if not all the presidents where of Ham not Shem , he was of Shems line the line that was snuffed out of there promised land , and taken into captivity in the americas , sold to the sons of Japheth by Sons of Ham; even beating America to this day where they have Barack Obama as there first black president Wich is a good thing but more than likely he is a Son Of Ham Wich is indicated by his fathers origin, so Mexico in this sphere of the world had the first Black president Descendent of Shems line.
If would have asked him he would have told you I'm not African I do not look like Mike Tyson
Yeah Vicente Guerrero, I don't think he was black. Lol. I was just reading that he was described as having bronze skin, bright and light colored eyes and an aquiline nose. That's native and European features. And you don't really see Black Mexicans and even the dark skin Mexicans have more native and European facial features. Ya spreading false information
No, you’re just an anti-Black bigot
@@ChicanoPhDNo he's actually correct, no Mexican historian can or will ever say what his exact mix was. Pseudo scholars will.
Wow you are highly uneducated. Do ur research and come back and edit ur post.