I think Vicente Guerrero is a fascinating character and I hope that you agree. His father was Afromexican and his mother was indigenous. As you can see from the video, his African heritage was very important in understanding his story due to the prevalence of slavery and the caste system at the time. I can see that a lot of commenters are taking offense that I described him as the first black president of Mexico. I chose this title because this is how he was described by his contemporaries, because his African heritage is relevant, and as a comparison to Barack Obama in the United States, who was celebrated as the first black president nearly two centuries later. From my other videos, I've learned that different people have differing interpretations of racial descriptions. I welcome your comments and discussion on this. It's certainly not my intention to cause any offense. As always with these kinds of videos, I encourage everyone to check my references. They are all in the description of the video. You will see that far more reputable people than me have described Vicente Guerrero as a black president.
Vicente Guerro, Gaspar Yanga, the Black Seminoles, the Moscogos tribe etc. Mexico has a very long and extensive Black history, and in the case of the Moscogos and Black Seminoles they are directly connected to the ADOS (African American) history. Its crazy how much history is intentionally white washed, left out, minimalized and/or flat out lied about. Subbed. Great channel
The father of Vicente Guerrero was not African-Mexìcan because Mexico was not a country until 1821. In the early 1860s France tried to take possession of Mexico and established Franz Maximiĺian as emporor. Juarez regime executed him in 1867.
Thank you so much for making this video 🙏 I’m black from the USA and knew nothing about Vicente Guerrero until a few months ago. Most of us know nothing about him or any people of African descent in Mexican 🇲🇽 history so please make more videos like this and don’t worry about apologizing. 😊
first of all Describing someone who has mix ancestry as Black by the one drop rule is 100% USA fallacy made up by white supremacists to insure the purity of his race, In all of latin America the one drop rule does not exist, it is a US made up fallacy and pushed into the brains of the white man's slaves who are the Afroamerican citizens who have never left the US and who have been brain washed to believe that their blood taints the other races and no matter what other race they mix with, they will always remain black for life at the bottom of all the races hierarchy hahaha that is a racist US man made rule. There is no scientific proof that one drop black blood makes a human being entirely Black no matter if his offspring is of white complexion like Baby Archie.
Hi Karen I am Black from Los Angeles I played in the lega Mexicana de Beisbol, I didn't know this info for years as many others don't im 58 yrs old great job im from Lynwood ca, thank you.
My heart is filled with joy.. to learn my Afro Mexican history I was always told horrible things by my own people American Mexicans about my color. Thank you
The push to abolish slavery of both Indian and African slaves, was first introduced in 1813 by the "Congreso de Anahuac". Morelos a founding father of Mexican Independence, was one of the originators of the document "Sentiments of the Nation", which declared an end to slavery. After the war of Independence ended, (and Morelos now dead) Guerrero (a disciple of Morelos) was lifted to president in which he past the "Plan de Iguala" - putting an end to slavery.
@@juansolis5868 Si, existen Afro-Mexicanos. Racismo y colorismo también existen en Mexico. Gente como tú quiere pretender que raza no existe para evitar el sujeto de racismo. Blanquísimo es el premio y el sueño en Mexico. Mira las telenovelas y revistas. Solo se permiten los gueros/blancos.
I love your deep dive into this part of Mexican history. You were extremely (and unusually) honest. Ppl like to deny the impact of race because it’s comfortable. I learned a lot. Thank you
Guerrero, my home state!! In my town we have a dam, una presa, with his name, Presa Vicente Guerrero. It's near the Edo. de México border. I have great memories of all the family outings. We kids swimming, while others fished with the men, and the family women made the fire with leña (wood) from around, fried the catch, made tortillas, salsas, all to feast after a 'chapuson', a swim at the foot of the dam, at the river. Interesting, I don't remember many people doing that. Saludos a mi linda gente Guerrerenses!🇲🇽 Karencita--so interesting info. You're awesome! Mi lengua también se me traba y se rehúsa a decir lo que quiero. Más en español, jajaja
When doing my own research about Afro-Mexicans, I came across Vicente Guerrero and was shocked that Mexico even had a black president. I decided to dig deeper and to my knowledge, Afro-Mexicans were not counted as part of the Mexican census until 2018. More than 200 years they went unnoticed. Ford Quarterman, did a UA-cam video where he went to an Afro-Mexican town in Oaxaca if I’m not mistaken to speak to the families living there. What they had to say about the Oaxaca government was heart-breaking. They have access to less resources, were forced to close their businesses and banned from making new ones. Not to mention a lot of their children don’t get the same access to education as their fellow mestizo Mexicans. In my humble opinion, there’s still a lot that needs to be done in order to help these families who’ve been more or less neglected by the government. Here’s the link to Ford’s video: ua-cam.com/video/gYp2xfN1Mq8/v-deo.html
Nobody was counted by race, not just afro mexicans, afro mexicans were counted as mexicans just like whote and mestizo mexicans, so this myth that afro mexicans were mot counted based on discrimination is completely wrong, white mexicans have also not been counted
I'm Mexican Zapotec born in Oaxaca and raised in chiapas. The se so called afros have always benn counted, mexican census does not include the race of an individual in the census, weather you are Menonite, Chinese, nor Japanese, they census ask where where you born and do you speak a language other thab spanish. Mexico nor Latin America ever asks tha race of an individual in official papers, birth certificates, nor Drivers license. Now these afro people live in very remote areas only accesible by boats, they do have modest schools same thing goes for other Native mexican people living in remote areas. You cannot find Teachers who want to go to this remote areas and b e away from their families isolated for long periods of time. When My sister became a new grad Teacher was asked to go to those isolated commuities, she rather quit her profession as a Teacher than having to go to the middle of nowhere. Samething with basic health care Mexicans only have bsic health care in certain populated areas all the government offers is antibiotics and cough syrup and you pay 15 Dollara which a great number of people in mexico do not have. Hospital a few per population concentration you have to bring your own blankets, toilet paper, soap and have a family member to to bathe you and stay the night with you if you live from isolated towns then you sleep outdoors in the central park . That is health coverage for all of mexico. Oaxaca an Indian state in 95 percent is very poor. People in Mexico refuse to pay taxes, they think that the government steals it, they do not even know the duties of a president. Mexico could be rich and people could benefit from it. Only 1/3 of Mexicans pay taxes and the government does not dare to collect them. Even when people from Mexico and Central America come illegally to the US do not want to pay raxes and yet they want the US tax payers to feed their children, educate them and give them free health care. Lupita Nyongo was born in Mexico while her parents were awaiting Asylum in the US, her birth certificate does not denote her race, only both of her parents and both set of grandparents place of birth, so she will always know where her family comes from, that is identity in Mexico, not your race. Because Afrocentrics coming to mexico and trying to push the BLACKLIves matter agenda these people are claiming thier afro origins above the poor amerindians from Mexico and the 60 million mexicans living in extreme poverty. BLCJLIVESMatter eill never take off in Mexico in true the Afros brought to Mexico were in charge of torturing the Indians as you caN SEE THEY BRAG ON CAmera of appropriating the most beautiful fertile land in Mexico while the Amerindian, including my family were relegated to dry land. thousandths of Amerindians died of famine in Oaxaca during the mexican revolution, it was at this time that the afros were brougt by the rich europen land owners to execute the amerindians and that is how the afros sppropriated the land from the amerindians
@@terroralabruja I’m not fully aware of Mexico’s history in relation to what you’ve just said so I can’t comment on everything. I realise now that census’ in Latin America are based on where u were born and what language you speak other than Spanish which is not common in many other countries. It is true that these remote places are only accessible by boat and therefore lack in many areas. However, I do think more could be done so that people who live in these areas get access to better help. I was shocked to find out Lupita Nyongo was born in Mexico City but doesn’t consider herself Mexican because of the discrimination she endured when she was there (I think she did an interview on this, but I could be wrong). I think that’s why she’s not been back there since she was around 16. I’m not sure about her parents wanting to seek asylum in the US. Her dad was a professor at UNAM when she was born and then he worked on behalf of the Kenyan government.
This is why i watch and support your channel! Richness in history, family, and food are all around us. So look for it ,learn from it, and share it! ¡Cuídate!
I'm African American (EEUU) and really enjoyed this history on Mexico and Guerreo. I would also like to tell you that your English is pretty good. I taught English to foreigners (ESL) for a long time. I've only been watching your videos for a short time but I can clearly hear improvement in your English. Don't worry about your accent. It's charming and part of you; Finally, I've been to Mexico: Mexico City, Huatulco and Cancun and I've been very well received in general.
Isidoro Montes de Oca (1789-1847) was a Mexican of Spanish descent born in the Philippines who was a revolutionary general who fought in the Mexican War of Independence between 1810 and 1821. He was among the commanders of the army of Vicente Guerrero and José María Morelos. And was a trusted man of Vicente Guerrero and was his sub-General.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I love hearing your perspective on your country's history and how that history may be affecting current life as well. I appreciate your efforts at putting together these informative videos. Thank you!
I've always had an affinity for Vicente's story and legacy. Everything I've read and watched about him has me convinced he truly was a great man and a martyr for social justice, equality and freedom for all. It is only right that he is celebrated by most Mexicans as the hero that he was. The story of his betrayal by predominantly white mestizo conservative Mexicans, including his very own Vice-President, is a very sad one, however. It really shines light on the ugliness of human nature and self-serving agenda and how certain factions within that society cling to power and privileges afforded them since the time of the Spanish crown and royalist loyalty. I am of predominantly Chamorro (alternatively, Chamoru/CHamoru) descent and like our Amerindian and African brothers and sisters, my native indigenous ancestors were also colonized and oppressed by Spain, 11,461 km across the world in the Mariana Islands. Many of us also have Mexican and African ancestry in our genes due to the conscripted conquistadors who came here through colonization. Last but not least, Vicente and I also bear the same namesake, as does my Dad and his father before him.
Mucho Gracias La Karencita, One of the best presentations I have seen about General and President Vincente Guerro. Very informative. I willl share your video.
Thank you thank you Only discovered your channel a few hours ago on viewing another travel bloggers UA-cam video on blacks in Mexico where he spoke about Vicente Guerrero. It was like striking gold for though I am a history nut I never heard about the 2nd president of Mexico. As usual I always share any interesting and factual items I come across to friends and family. Keep up the good work.❤
Thank you for this information! I am an American of African descent - I am Black! I learned of this President of African descent through the research of a great historian named J.A. Rogers. Again, thank you!
thank you very much for the information, it is the first time that I see you but I really liked the whole story and the way you explain it, Thanks a lot -KARENCITA BONITA- 🙃😉
It's frustrating and sad that most modern Mexicans prefer to ignore the contributions of African peoples throughout its history. It's literally in our blood.
In the U.S. we refer to anyone with any visible African heritage as "Black". Barack Obama's mother is white, but we still refer to him as "our first Black President". At least the comparison of Guerrero to Obama is spot-on, even if the racial terminology you use is different. I'd love to hear more about Mexican history, if you want to keep doing this sort of video.
If you do a deep dive on Hamilton you may find some interesting theories on him as well. There were a couple us presidents who were "suspected" of being "one drop ruled"
I would describe Vicente Guerrero's ethnicity as Afro-Mestizo because his father was Spanish European and Indigenous (Native American) Mexican lineage and Vicente's mother was an Afro Latina Mexican lady.
Thank You for this historical caption of Vicente Guerrero and circumstances of that time in Mexico. Over the past 30 years, I seemed to have learned many new facts of world history not taught in many educational institutions.
@@LaKarencitaMX It keeps YOU growing! Good thing. And you present well. He served until 1821, four decades before the Civil War here in the US. And we never were taught about him in school. (and from what I hear, it's still not taught.) You are up to this challenge. And it makes for diversity. Here's a thought, how about a video about how easy or not it is for people with disabilities?
Wonderful information! I think many people (those of us from the U.S.) don't know that Mexico had an Afromexican president. I enjoyed this video very much!
thank you so much it's so fun to learn abt the country that I've been distanced from. Guerrero is right next to where my father is from which is Oxaca. I love your channel and this story it's so sad that he was killed because he could have done so much more than he did which is amazing. Hopefully he would've went on to fight for women the way he did the afro mexican and indigenous peoples.💘
The best case scenario would have been to have Emperor Agustin on the throne and make Vicente Guerrero his Prime Minister. Instead, the monarchists abandoned Agustin in their rabid want of a European monarch, and the republicans wanted to foolishly appeal to the US regardless of what the country needed at the time, which was stability. Guerrero wrongly sided with the republicans and joined Santa Anna's rebellion, only to be bitten in the ass in the 1828 election and be killed by a group of cowardly rebels a few months later. We could have had a stable birth to our country. Both generals holding the highest positions in the country (crown and government), and carrying out the goals of independence and racial union the Plan de Iguala had set. Instead, both our Founding Fathers died in front of a firing squad as traitors to the Mexican republic. It's disgusting. The fact that a parricide government like the United Mexican States has survived 200 years in the same conditions as it was founded is both shocking and horrifying.
I loved it!!! I am African American!!! It great to learn about Mexico ‘s first black presidente! Awesome history! Would love to learn mas!!! Gracias!!!
@@nmagain24 Cool! Thanks! I will check it out! Never heard of this before. Definitely would like to know more. You can send more information to my email: mattmarklukejohn@yahoo.com
My name is Adam Guerrero, I believe I am related to him, I did learn about him in one of my Latin America classes, even in the class my professor knew my last name was Guerrero, when we were learning about Vicente Guerrero, my professor even told me I am probably related to him, he did ask were my family was from, I told him my father family is from León, Guanajuato, they must have migrated from the state of Guerrero to Guanajuato over time.
He did passed a law that ended slavery, however he supported white American immigration into Texas and made an exception for white Americans to keep their slaves. At the end he was arrested for not being democratically elected, and all of his legislation was abolished. So that 1829 law to abolished slavery never took effect. Abolishment of slavery didn't really took effect until 1837 way after he was gone.
When researching Afromexican history, pay close attention to the specific pueblos and you will see a pattern that exists for us Black folk all over the Americas. There are 3 types of areas you will 9/10 find afro descendientes in... La Costa, Las Minas, y Los Campos de Caña.... This is true for all of Latin America. Go to the coasts or the historical areas for mining and sugarcane cultivation, you will find afro descendientes no doubt.
Su padre era afromexicano y su madre indígena. Por lo tanto, él fue al mismo tiempo el primer afromexicano y el primer indígena en ocupar la presidencia de México. Además, el hecho de que José María Morelos también tenía ascendencia africana es aún menos conocido.
-quien nace en India sería india, indio. -quien practica Hinduismo sería hindú. -no todas las personas indias son hindúes, pues en India hay también otras religiones. -no todas las personas hindúes son indias, pues el Hinduismo existe en otras regiones o países. -indí-gena, originalmente quiere decir persona nacida en un lugar, originaria de un lugar. generalmente se refiere a los pueblos que habitaron un territorio antes de nuevas oleadas de colonización. y como en todo el mundo ha existido colonización, entonces en todo el mundo, en todos los continentes, han habido y hay indígenas o pueblos originarios. (pero) el término indígena es tan general que ciertamente habría que empezar a nombrar las etnias originarias por sus identidades específicas, según cómo se identifiquen a sí mismas en sus propios idiomas en todo el mundo, para darnos cuenta de la enorme diversidad, apreciar cada una de sus manifestaciones y no quedarnos con la idea de que todo lo indígena es exactamente lo mismo.
@@byzer1 tenía entendido diferente. si busco "etimología indígena" me aparece: Préstamo (s. XIX) del latín indigena, formado con inde ‘de allí’ y gena ‘nacido de’, derivado de genere ‘engendrar’. De la familia etimológica de engendrar (V.). y en otro lugar: del latín tardío indigenus ("nativo, nacido en un lugar"), de indi- (indu-), derivativo de in ("dentro de"), y gen- raíz de gignō ("dar nacimiento a"). compare la palabra latina indigene con el griego clásico ἐνδογενής (endogenḗs, "nacido dentro de la casa”), del cuál proviene la palabra endógeno. o sea, "indígena" es latín, "endógeno" es griego. ambos se refieren a lo originario local, a lo nacido propio de un lugar. y pues, como ambas palabras son europeas, habría que considerar cómo las personas se llaman a sí mismas en sus idiomas, lugares, culturas e historias.
@@byzer1 están también estas versiones: -INDÍGENA. La palabra indígena viene del latín "inde" (de allí) y "gens" (población). -La palabra indígena deriva del latín indigĕna que se compone de inde que significa “ de ese lugar” y gens que significa “población” por lo tanto la palabra se refiere a una población de un lugar determinado.
Great video presentation...Try looking into the book, America: Being The Latest And Most Accurate Description Of The New World by John Ogilby(1671)... Several things in the past have been suppressed, but you can find many things in the Library of Congress or National Archives in the Palacio de Lecumberri in Mexico City.
But it's so sad that they tried to lighten up his skin by making him look mixed race ... Unfortunately this is what our colonized countries do to black people. When is this racism finally end?
Look first of all he was not black or mixed race if he was credit should be given to see it’s deserve but his parents were immigrants from Spain and were send there by the crown of Spain it’s a lie
The reason there is no movie is because Vicente Guerrero was not afro it would be very dishonest of them to put out a movie with such false information after pitching the idea for years most directors turned it down because the historical evidence of Vicente being afro is not true
@@rogeliocastillo4935 hmm could you elaborate I’ve only heard the opposite that it was hidden from history that he was black and was revealed later on that he was Afro
@cheetahluv210 The eye witnesses that saw and knew guerrero never mentioned he was afro they only described him as a tan person with light colored eyes with a pointy nose, Guerrero himself never said he was afro or acknowledged his afro roots there are no sources of Guerrero saying he was afro the story popped out of thin air from one of those afrocentric websites.The people that made this story up are the same people pushing the false information about the Olmecs having afro roots,newly studies recent studies and test confirmed that info to be false. It's more reasonable to believe he wasn't afro then to believe his story was hidden from history
Great job! Keep up the great work! You're are doing a great job to help abolish ignorance and prejudice. I remember staying up late into the night with my daughter making her read her history homework in Middle School. That is when I learned a lot about Mexico's Social Pyramid/ Caste system and your video validates what I read. Of course, the Spanish people originally born in Spain were at the top of the Social pyramid & the original indigenous people of the continent were at the very bottom of the Social. I even saw a artist renditioncaste system where people fit in society based on what ethnicities they were mixed with. This story reminds me of apartheid in Africa. The Europeans did the same thing there dividing people's rights and privileges in society by their ethnicity. It's ironic that please very religious people we're so cruel to the brothers and sisters. What a bunch of self-righteous Hypocrites...
Ramón Fabié y de Jesús (1785 - November 28, 1810) was a Philippines-born New Spanish mining engineering student who joined revolutionaries in the Mexican War of Independence.
Very good video of an important figure of Mexico and this kind of history is what should be uniting us and not Dividing us in the United States and Mexico.
Vicente Guerrero is the one that the Spaniards never caught, and pedro ascencio alquisiras was one of his right hands, people still looking for Pedro's treasure
I recently found out about this. It’s awesome. But sadly I don’t think Mexico is so progressive because I also Learned that Mexicans with African descent haven’t been counted in the census as they should. I think I saw a vlogger go to somewhere in the south of Mexico with a big population of black Mexicans and how they are so impoverished because of the cast system still today.
Vicente guerrero was mixed not full black and afro mexicans had never been counted because no mexican of any race had ever been counted, white and mestizo mexicans were also not counted not just black mexicans.
@@kita3256 just population numbers in general, Mexico stopped countring race a long time ago like back in the 1920s i believe. the only people that continued to be counted by their racial background were indigenous communities.
@@LaKarencitaMX I agree. I learned about Vincente Guerrero from a Black American college professor named: Henry Louis Gates. He did a excellent documentary about Black communities in Mexico. As a Black person, do you think I would have any problems living as an ex-pat Mexico? I considering moving to Mexico early next year. Also, I want to spend 6 months in a Spanish immersion program. Suggestions? Vik (San Jose, California)
@@victoraughtiii8839 Thank you very much for that article. I wish I had found it before making the video! I've met a few black Americans who have moved to Mexico and they tell me that they don't feel that their race is as much of an issue here as in the US.
Karencita, can you tell me who painted the "official" portrait of Presidente Vicente Guerrero? When was that picture painted? Also, can you do a different video about why Guerrero could abolish slavery in Mexico but not Texas when it was under Mexican rule?
Guerrero was not a black man, the racist one drop of blood rule didnt/doesn't apply to Mexico. he was a mestizo (mixed) man mainly of indigenous descent with European & African ancestry. His father (scholars are divided on this) was part African & Indigenous not solely African/black. most of the images of Guerrero were post mortem, most depict him more European/light but there are some that depict him more African Indigenous with not one being truly accurate. Prieto, was not a term only for African/black people, many Indigenous people are dark skinned like me but we are not African yet we are called prietos (my mother's last name) we are not all like the indigenous people in movies some of our skin tones are real dark (dark mahogany) like my grandmother or Zapata. Tejas mainly kept slavery going because of racists slave owning American border crossers (irony) like Stephen F. Austin, that would refuse to give up their slaves and follow Mexican laws, this would ultimately lead to the secession of Texas & spark the battle of the Alamo then eventually the Mexican American war. when you call him black when he was primarily of indigenous descent, you continue the suppression of indigenous people/history which seems to never end, especial mente de nuestra gente que viene de raza indígena. He was Mestizo, primarily of Indigenous descent with some African & European ancestry.
Morelos, Zapata,Pio Pico Last Mexican governor of California were of part african descent,I've also heard that Lazaro Cardenas had African ancestors, Studies show that most Mexicans today especially from mexico City to the south have a small percentage of african genes due to the decimation of the indigenous population and subsequent import of african slaves that mixed with the relatively few locals.lets not forget that the diseases brought by the spaniards ( not putting blame on them) killed a significant number of locals.
I'm a educated black man in his early 40s and I did know this because as a kid I had to go to the library to learn everything I could about black history in the Americas from slavery on up and I came across Vicente Guerrero in about 8th grade. I live in Phoenix Arizona now and I have used this little fact many times when talking with some of my Mexican co workers. It always seems to surprise them. Here's a little fact about Africans and Mexicans over 98% of all native Mexicans can trace their ancestry to at least one African ancestor. Science has proven this look it up. TV series Finding Your Roots, Black in Latin America.
I don’t know if you can call that a fact, I can guarantee you that the Native Americans had no African DNA considering they migrated to the America’s through the Bering Strait (the connection between Asia and the America’s). Any African ancestry was introduced when the Spanish brought a couple slaves which doesn’t compare to the amount they brought to let say Cuba, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, or Brazil. This explains why afro-Mexican’s are an extremely small minority.
@@55CINCO55 First you act as if you're offended by possibly have a single ancestral link of African DNA. Secondly I never said that there was a huge population of anything. Head to Coasta Chica Mexico and its like you're in Africa. Still considering the slave trade in the Americas didn't start till the 15th century and 90% of all slavery travelled thru south America and was only a institution in the south of the US and it was never legal in Canada it makes sense that there isn't a huge population of Afro Mexicans. It's also a historical fact that the reason for the African slave being brought to the Americas was because the first slaves in America were the Natives who proved vulnerable the white mans foreign diseases more so then the European African slaves. This all is fact just like the second president of Mexico being half African /African American is a historical fact. You're talking about a great migration from the north over 13000 years ago I'm talking about a great injustice of man importing man from the south up. FYI over 10 million Africans were brought to the Americas.
@Kang Slayer What does that have to do with the facts that have been scientifically proven with papers written by Ivey League professionals that back what I said. The facts still remain that over 90% of Latin people have at least one ancestral African DNA linked relative. Watch Finding Your Roots "Being Black in Latin America". I am quoting a college professor with what I wrote. The same professor who has his show Finding Your Roots of PBS. Do your self a favor and do your leg work and research before you get upset with me stating facts.
We don't know if he was black at all. All his paintings were done after his death. We have one description of him from a contemporary and it described him as tall, dark, well built. With light eyes.
European all over the world has white wash history to make them look superior to other groups and it has work I have friends from Spanish speaking countries that didn't tell their children that there grandmother or grandfather was aferican
Really good information I'm curious about the Indians that were there before him what was life like what did they have available what had happened before
I can't believe pop smoke used this man's portrait to put on a album it's deeper than that obviously the don't teach this in American highschool's remember every morning we would pledge our allegiance period....
I think Vicente Guerrero is a fascinating character and I hope that you agree.
His father was Afromexican and his mother was indigenous. As you can see from the video, his African heritage was very important in understanding his story due to the prevalence of slavery and the caste system at the time.
I can see that a lot of commenters are taking offense that I described him as the first black president of Mexico. I chose this title because this is how he was described by his contemporaries, because his African heritage is relevant, and as a comparison to Barack Obama in the United States, who was celebrated as the first black president nearly two centuries later.
From my other videos, I've learned that different people have differing interpretations of racial descriptions. I welcome your comments and discussion on this. It's certainly not my intention to cause any offense.
As always with these kinds of videos, I encourage everyone to check my references. They are all in the description of the video. You will see that far more reputable people than me have described Vicente Guerrero as a black president.
Vicente Guerro, Gaspar Yanga, the Black Seminoles, the Moscogos tribe etc. Mexico has a very long and extensive Black history, and in the case of the Moscogos and Black Seminoles they are directly connected to the ADOS (African American) history. Its crazy how much history is intentionally white washed, left out, minimalized and/or flat out lied about. Subbed. Great channel
The father of Vicente Guerrero was not African-Mexìcan because Mexico was not a country until 1821. In the early 1860s France tried to take possession of Mexico and established Franz Maximiĺian as emporor. Juarez regime executed him in 1867.
@@nmagain24 our History is majority European and indigenous
Thank you so much for making this video 🙏 I’m black from the USA and knew nothing about Vicente Guerrero until a few months ago. Most of us know nothing about him or any people of African descent in Mexican 🇲🇽 history so please make more videos like this and don’t worry about apologizing. 😊
first of all Describing someone who has mix ancestry as Black by the one drop rule is 100% USA fallacy made up by white supremacists to insure the purity of his race, In all of latin America the one drop rule does not exist, it is a US made up fallacy and pushed into the brains of the white man's slaves who are the Afroamerican citizens who have never left the US and who have been brain washed to believe that their blood taints the other races and no matter what other race they mix with, they will always remain black for life at the bottom of all the races hierarchy hahaha that is a racist US man made rule. There is no scientific proof that one drop black blood makes a human being entirely Black no matter if his offspring is of white complexion like Baby Archie.
Hi Karen I am Black from Los Angeles I played in the lega Mexicana de Beisbol, I didn't know this info for years as many others don't im 58 yrs old great job im from Lynwood ca, thank you.
My heart is filled with joy.. to learn my Afro Mexican history I was always told horrible things by my own people American Mexicans about my color. Thank you
Hugs!
Self-hatred!
Afro Indigenous pride.🤩
That's just a reflection of their own insecurities. Don't play a part in it.
Latin people in general are anti black so its not surprising
He abolished slavery September 15th 1829. Happy Independence Day to all my Central American brothers and sisters.
The push to abolish slavery of both Indian and African slaves, was first introduced in 1813 by the "Congreso de Anahuac". Morelos a founding father of Mexican Independence, was one of the originators of the document "Sentiments of the Nation", which declared an end to slavery. After the war of Independence ended, (and Morelos now dead) Guerrero (a disciple of Morelos) was lifted to president in which he past the "Plan de Iguala" - putting an end to slavery.
el papa de la patria
@@JoseTovar-r7qNo seas mamon. Morelos fue el que acabo con el reigno español.
Mexico belongs to North America, not central.
Im a black Mexican from Acapulco. Love to all the melanated brothers & sisters in the Diaspora!
No existen los negros mexicanos si vives aquí y eres de aquí eres mexicano no importa tu origen vive orgulloso de ser mexicano 😎
♥️🖤💚
@@juansolis5868 Si, existen Afro-Mexicanos. Racismo y colorismo también existen en Mexico. Gente como tú quiere pretender que raza no existe para evitar el sujeto de racismo. Blanquísimo es el premio y el sueño en Mexico. Mira las telenovelas y revistas. Solo se permiten los gueros/blancos.
Mexico said you do not exist. what are you doing on UA-cam? 😆✨
Hello Afro Native Indigenous pride!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
I love your deep dive into this part of Mexican history. You were extremely (and unusually) honest. Ppl like to deny the impact of race because it’s comfortable. I learned a lot. Thank you
Guerrero, my home state!!
In my town we have a dam, una presa, with his name, Presa Vicente Guerrero.
It's near the Edo. de México border.
I have great memories of all the family outings. We kids swimming, while others fished with the men, and the family women made the fire with leña (wood) from around, fried the catch, made tortillas, salsas, all to feast after a 'chapuson', a swim at the foot of the dam, at the river.
Interesting, I don't remember many people doing that.
Saludos a mi linda gente Guerrerenses!🇲🇽
Karencita--so interesting info. You're awesome!
Mi lengua también se me traba y se rehúsa a decir lo que quiero. Más en español, jajaja
I love Mexico and I love history. Thank you for your efforts. Salud!
When doing my own research about Afro-Mexicans, I came across Vicente Guerrero and was shocked that Mexico even had a black president. I decided to dig deeper and to my knowledge, Afro-Mexicans were not counted as part of the Mexican census until 2018.
More than 200 years they went unnoticed. Ford Quarterman, did a UA-cam video where he went to an Afro-Mexican town in Oaxaca if I’m not mistaken to speak to the families living there. What they had to say about the Oaxaca government was heart-breaking. They have access to less resources, were forced to close their businesses and banned from making new ones. Not to mention a lot of their children don’t get the same access to education as their fellow mestizo Mexicans.
In my humble opinion, there’s still a lot that needs to be done in order to help these families who’ve been more or less neglected by the government.
Here’s the link to Ford’s video: ua-cam.com/video/gYp2xfN1Mq8/v-deo.html
Nobody was counted by race, not just afro mexicans, afro mexicans were counted as mexicans just like whote and mestizo mexicans, so this myth that afro mexicans were mot counted based on discrimination is completely wrong, white mexicans have also not been counted
I'm Mexican Zapotec born in Oaxaca and raised in chiapas. The se so called afros have always benn counted, mexican census does not include the race of an individual in the census, weather you are Menonite, Chinese, nor Japanese, they census ask where where you born and do you speak a language other thab spanish. Mexico nor Latin America ever asks tha race of an individual in official papers, birth certificates, nor Drivers license. Now these afro people live in very remote areas only accesible by boats, they do have modest schools same thing goes for other Native mexican people living in remote areas. You cannot find Teachers who want to go to this remote areas and b e away from their families isolated for long periods of time. When My sister became a new grad Teacher was asked to go to those isolated commuities, she rather quit her profession as a Teacher than having to go to the middle of nowhere. Samething with basic health care Mexicans only have bsic health care in certain populated areas all the government offers is antibiotics and cough syrup and you pay 15 Dollara which a great number of people in mexico do not have. Hospital a few per population concentration you have to bring your own blankets, toilet paper, soap and have a family member to to bathe you and stay the night with you if you live from isolated towns then you sleep outdoors in the central park . That is health coverage for all of mexico. Oaxaca an Indian state in 95 percent is very poor. People in Mexico refuse to pay taxes, they think that the government steals it, they do not even know the duties of a president. Mexico could be rich and people could benefit from it. Only 1/3 of Mexicans pay taxes and the government does not dare to collect them. Even when people from Mexico and Central America come illegally to the US do not want to pay raxes and yet they want the US tax payers to feed their children, educate them and give them free health care. Lupita Nyongo was born in Mexico while her parents were awaiting Asylum in the US, her birth certificate does not denote her race, only both of her parents and both set of grandparents place of birth, so she will always know where her family comes from, that is identity in Mexico, not your race. Because Afrocentrics coming to mexico and trying to push the BLACKLIves matter agenda these people are claiming thier afro origins above the poor amerindians from Mexico and the 60 million mexicans living in extreme poverty. BLCJLIVESMatter eill never take off in Mexico in true the Afros brought to Mexico were in charge of torturing the Indians as you caN SEE THEY BRAG ON CAmera of appropriating the most beautiful fertile land in Mexico while the Amerindian, including my family were relegated to dry land. thousandths of Amerindians died of famine in Oaxaca during the mexican revolution, it was at this time that the afros were brougt by the rich europen land owners to execute the amerindians and that is how the afros sppropriated the land from the amerindians
Sorry about all the typos, but If I try to correct them it will delete my entire comment as it has happened in the past.
@@jacedavi4450 thank you for informing me. It is true that the way census’ are done varies by country.
@@terroralabruja I’m not fully aware of Mexico’s history in relation to what you’ve just said so I can’t comment on everything. I realise now that census’ in Latin America are based on where u were born and what language you speak other than Spanish which is not common in many other countries. It is true that these remote places are only accessible by boat and therefore lack in many areas. However, I do think more could be done so that people who live in these areas get access to better help. I was shocked to find out Lupita Nyongo was born in Mexico City but doesn’t consider herself Mexican because of the discrimination she endured when she was there (I think she did an interview on this, but I could be wrong). I think that’s why she’s not been back there since she was around 16. I’m not sure about her parents wanting to seek asylum in the US. Her dad was a professor at UNAM when she was born and then he worked on behalf of the Kenyan government.
This is why i watch and support your channel! Richness in history, family, and food are all around us. So look for it ,learn from it, and share it! ¡Cuídate!
Man a movie about him would be marvelous
I love that idea! This is the story that needs to be told to a wider audience. Anybody got connections to Screen Writers and Producers in Hollywood? 😊
@@kimmcfadden4679 you can do your own with AI, u can try flowgpt
I'm African American (EEUU) and really enjoyed this history on Mexico and Guerreo. I would also like to tell you that your English is pretty good. I taught English to foreigners (ESL) for a long time. I've only been watching your videos for a short time but I can clearly hear improvement in your English. Don't worry about your accent. It's charming and part of you; Finally, I've been to Mexico: Mexico City, Huatulco and Cancun and I've been very well received in general.
I loooove her accent.
Great history lesson I hope you continue with more of Mexico's history!!!!
Thank you soo much for this. I love learning about my history.
Isidoro Montes de Oca (1789-1847) was a Mexican of Spanish descent born in the Philippines who was a revolutionary general who fought in the Mexican War of Independence between 1810 and 1821. He was among the commanders of the army of Vicente Guerrero and José María Morelos. And was a trusted man of Vicente Guerrero and was his sub-General.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I love hearing your perspective on your country's history and how that history may be affecting current life as well. I appreciate your efforts at putting together these informative videos. Thank you!
Very informative and interesting. Please keep doing videos like this one highlighting the history of your country.
I've always had an affinity for Vicente's story and legacy. Everything I've read and watched about him has me convinced he truly was a great man and a martyr for social justice, equality and freedom for all. It is only right that he is celebrated by most Mexicans as the hero that he was. The story of his betrayal by predominantly white mestizo conservative Mexicans, including his very own Vice-President, is a very sad one, however. It really shines light on the ugliness of human nature and self-serving agenda and how certain factions within that society cling to power and privileges afforded them since the time of the Spanish crown and royalist loyalty. I am of predominantly Chamorro (alternatively, Chamoru/CHamoru) descent and like our Amerindian and African brothers and sisters, my native indigenous ancestors were also colonized and oppressed by Spain, 11,461 km across the world in the Mariana Islands. Many of us also have Mexican and African ancestry in our genes due to the conscripted conquistadors who came here through colonization. Last but not least, Vicente and I also bear the same namesake, as does my Dad and his father before him.
Mucho Gracias La Karencita, One of the best presentations I have seen
about General and President Vincente Guerro. Very informative. I willl share your video.
Thank you thank you
Only discovered your channel a few hours ago on viewing another travel bloggers UA-cam video on blacks in Mexico where he spoke about Vicente Guerrero. It was like striking gold for though I am a history nut I never heard about the 2nd president of Mexico.
As usual I always share any interesting and factual items I come across to friends and family.
Keep up the good work.❤
Thank you for this information! I am an American of African descent - I am Black! I learned of this President of African descent through the research of a great historian named J.A. Rogers. Again, thank you!
thank you very much for the information, it is the first time that I see you but I really liked the whole story and the way you explain it, Thanks a lot -KARENCITA BONITA- 🙃😉
It's frustrating and sad that most modern Mexicans prefer to ignore the contributions of African peoples throughout its history. It's literally in our blood.
Yea it's the eurocentric point of view that only light skin people count its so stupid
¡ Gracias por este video!
In the U.S. we refer to anyone with any visible African heritage as "Black". Barack Obama's mother is white, but we still refer to him as "our first Black President". At least the comparison of Guerrero to Obama is spot-on, even if the racial terminology you use is different. I'd love to hear more about Mexican history, if you want to keep doing this sort of video.
If you do a deep dive on Hamilton you may find some interesting theories on him as well. There were a couple us presidents who were "suspected" of being "one drop ruled"
Thanks for the great information. Proud of Mexico. 👍
I'm Jamaican & Choctaw and will always love my mexican brothers & sisters...
Thak you dear.
We love you too. ❤
Greetings from Mexico.
🇲🇽 ❤ 🇯🇲
Blessings
I would describe Vicente Guerrero's ethnicity as Afro-Mestizo because his father was Spanish European and Indigenous (Native American) Mexican lineage and Vicente's mother was an Afro Latina Mexican lady.
Thank You for this historical caption of Vicente Guerrero and circumstances of that time in Mexico. Over the past 30 years, I seemed to have learned many new facts of world history not taught in many educational institutions.
Thanks for appreciating the video. I tried to do a good research
Great video. Keep this kinda content coming. So few ppl know this. I only learned of Guerrero recently. Facts are powerful.
Thanks for appreciating the video. Talking about history can be interesting but also challenging
@@LaKarencitaMX It keeps YOU growing! Good thing. And you present well. He served until 1821, four decades before the Civil War here in the US. And we never were taught about him in school. (and from what I hear, it's still not taught.)
You are up to this challenge. And it makes for diversity.
Here's a thought, how about a video about how easy or not it is for people with disabilities?
Wonderful information! I think many people (those of us from the U.S.) don't know that Mexico had an Afromexican president. I enjoyed this video very much!
I LOVE IT! Great video on Vicente Guerrero!
thank you so much it's so fun to learn abt the country that I've been distanced from. Guerrero is right next to where my father is from which is Oxaca. I love your channel and this story it's so sad that he was killed because he could have done so much more than he did which is amazing. Hopefully he would've went on to fight for women the way he did the afro mexican and indigenous peoples.💘
African not afro.
The best case scenario would have been to have Emperor Agustin on the throne and make Vicente Guerrero his Prime Minister. Instead, the monarchists abandoned Agustin in their rabid want of a European monarch, and the republicans wanted to foolishly appeal to the US regardless of what the country needed at the time, which was stability. Guerrero wrongly sided with the republicans and joined Santa Anna's rebellion, only to be bitten in the ass in the 1828 election and be killed by a group of cowardly rebels a few months later.
We could have had a stable birth to our country. Both generals holding the highest positions in the country (crown and government), and carrying out the goals of independence and racial union the Plan de Iguala had set. Instead, both our Founding Fathers died in front of a firing squad as traitors to the Mexican republic. It's disgusting. The fact that a parricide government like the United Mexican States has survived 200 years in the same conditions as it was founded is both shocking and horrifying.
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****Interesting information, good journalism.
Please tell us more! Very interesting! Thank you!
Thank you for posting this .
Thank you for sharing this with us. So happy to learn this.
This is really interesting. Thanks so much. It provides a lot of backstory that I didn't know.
Just stumbled upon this channel; excellent content! I didn’t know about the black president; looking forward to seeing more of your great videos!
Gracias por compartir este video 🥰
I loved it!!! I am African American!!! It great to learn about Mexico ‘s first black presidente! Awesome history! Would love to learn mas!!! Gracias!!!
Gracias. ❤️
You should look up the Moscogos tribe. They are descendants of ADOS and even celebrate Juneteenth.
@@nmagain24 Cool! Thanks! I will check it out! Never heard of this before. Definitely would like to know more. You can send more information to my email: mattmarklukejohn@yahoo.com
He wasn’t black.
@@chicanochronicles8124 sure buddy sure
I appreciate your hard work. I am trying to help educate some mexicanos in america and its kinda tough
Never knew that! Thanks for teaching us!👍
Great video! Thank you.
My name is Adam Guerrero, I believe I am related to him, I did learn about him in one of my Latin America classes, even in the class my professor knew my last name was Guerrero, when we were learning about Vicente Guerrero, my professor even told me I am probably related to him, he did ask were my family was from, I told him my father family is from León, Guanajuato, they must have migrated from the state of Guerrero to Guanajuato over time.
Guerrero is one of the most common mexican names lmao
@@brejan2275 Yeah, Same last name does not mean your family lol
He did passed a law that ended slavery, however he supported white American immigration into Texas and made an exception for white Americans to keep their slaves. At the end he was arrested for not being democratically elected, and all of his legislation was abolished. So that 1829 law to abolished slavery never took effect. Abolishment of slavery didn't really took effect until 1837 way after he was gone.
This was very informative and I can't wait for more.
Thanks for the interesting history lesson.
Glad you enjoyed it
When researching Afromexican history, pay close attention to the specific pueblos and you will see a pattern that exists for us Black folk all over the Americas. There are 3 types of areas you will 9/10 find afro descendientes in... La Costa, Las Minas, y Los Campos de Caña.... This is true for all of Latin America. Go to the coasts or the historical areas for mining and sugarcane cultivation, you will find afro descendientes no doubt.
Thank you for posting this video. I found your channel last week and really enjoy your work.
Su padre era afromexicano y su madre indígena. Por lo tanto, él fue al mismo tiempo el primer afromexicano y el primer indígena en ocupar la presidencia de México. Además, el hecho de que José María Morelos también tenía ascendencia africana es aún menos conocido.
Si madre era de origen Nahua. En ninguna parte del mundo hay indígenas. Ni en la India, ellos se definen como Indúes.
-quien nace en India sería india, indio.
-quien practica Hinduismo sería hindú.
-no todas las personas indias son hindúes, pues en India hay también otras religiones.
-no todas las personas hindúes son indias, pues el Hinduismo existe en otras regiones o países.
-indí-gena, originalmente quiere decir persona nacida en un lugar, originaria de un lugar. generalmente se refiere a los pueblos que habitaron un territorio antes de nuevas oleadas de colonización.
y como en todo el mundo ha existido colonización, entonces en todo el mundo, en todos los continentes, han habido y hay indígenas o pueblos originarios.
(pero) el término indígena es tan general que ciertamente habría que empezar a nombrar las etnias originarias por sus identidades específicas, según cómo se identifiquen a sí mismas en sus propios idiomas en todo el mundo, para darnos cuenta de la enorme diversidad, apreciar cada una de sus manifestaciones y no quedarnos con la idea de que todo lo indígena es exactamente lo mismo.
@@07androctonus muy buena explicación, pero el termino indígena deriva de Indio.
@@byzer1 tenía entendido diferente. si busco "etimología indígena" me aparece:
Préstamo (s. XIX) del latín indigena, formado con inde ‘de allí’ y gena ‘nacido de’, derivado de genere ‘engendrar’. De la familia etimológica de engendrar (V.).
y en otro lugar:
del latín tardío indigenus ("nativo, nacido en un lugar"), de indi- (indu-), derivativo de in ("dentro de"), y gen- raíz de gignō ("dar nacimiento a"). compare la palabra latina indigene con el griego clásico ἐνδογενής (endogenḗs, "nacido dentro de la casa”), del cuál proviene la palabra endógeno.
o sea, "indígena" es latín, "endógeno" es griego. ambos se refieren a lo originario local, a lo nacido propio de un lugar. y pues, como ambas palabras son europeas, habría que considerar cómo las personas se llaman a sí mismas en sus idiomas, lugares, culturas e historias.
@@byzer1 están también estas versiones:
-INDÍGENA. La palabra indígena viene del latín "inde" (de allí) y "gens" (población).
-La palabra indígena deriva del latín indigĕna que se compone de inde que significa “ de ese lugar” y gens que significa “población” por lo tanto la palabra se refiere a una población de un lugar determinado.
Muchas gracias por este video!
It was great hearing this from you.
We should celebrate Mexican flag & African flag Independence Day together 🇲🇽 Af🇨🇫 🇿🇦 🇰🇪 ✊ defeated Spain
Great video presentation...Try looking into the book, America: Being The Latest And Most Accurate Description Of The New World by John Ogilby(1671)... Several things in the past have been suppressed, but you can find many things in the Library of Congress or National Archives in the Palacio de Lecumberri in Mexico City.
Excellent video, La Karencita, it's interesting to listen to your perspective. Keep doing these videos, they are clearly informative and nice
So basically Mexico was a pioneer in the Americas!
But it's so sad that they tried to lighten up his skin by making him look mixed race ... Unfortunately this is what our colonized countries do to black people. When is this racism finally end?
Haiti also!
@@FRANCISCARUSOworld I think he was mixed, but of African and indigenous blood.
@@Catlily5 You are totally correct.
Look first of all he was not black or mixed race if he was credit should be given to see it’s deserve but his parents were immigrants from Spain and were send there by the crown of Spain it’s a lie
1st time here .. Not my last time.. Thank you 💕La Karencita👏🏽🇺🇸💪🏾
Mexico has a lot of history that includes people of native, African and basque descent and many many others
My parents are from guerrero...now my hair makes sense i dont have sleek straight hair...
Very interesting Karencita, i enjoy history so keep it coming
Good job, please do some more research on the black Mexican president of Mexico 🇲🇽.
One question I want to know is why isn’t there a movie about him we should make a petition for it to happen!
The reason there is no movie is because Vicente Guerrero was not afro it would be very dishonest of them to put out a movie with such false information after pitching the idea for years most directors turned it down because the historical evidence of Vicente being afro is not true
@@rogeliocastillo4935 hmm could you elaborate I’ve only heard the opposite that it was hidden from history that he was black and was revealed later on that he was Afro
@cheetahluv210 The eye witnesses that saw and knew guerrero never mentioned he was afro they only described him as a tan person with light colored eyes with a pointy nose, Guerrero himself never said he was afro or acknowledged his afro roots there are no sources of Guerrero saying he was afro the story popped out of thin air from one of those afrocentric websites.The people that made this story up are the same people pushing the false information about the Olmecs having afro roots,newly studies recent studies and test confirmed that info to be false. It's more reasonable to believe he wasn't afro then to believe his story was hidden from history
Loved the video! Great editing 🤩👌🏾
Love your work.
Never knew how close I am with my Mexican family as a black man
Oye muchacha, me encanto este video. Gracias por eso😃Saludos de una mulata Cubana/ Boricua en Italia🇨🇺🇵🇷🇮🇹💋
Saludos guapa. Gracias por ver el vídeo
@@LaKarencitaMX 💋
Gracious Negrita.
Great job! Keep up the great work! You're are doing a great job to help abolish ignorance and prejudice. I remember staying up late into the night with my daughter making her read her history homework in Middle School. That is when I learned a lot about Mexico's Social Pyramid/ Caste system and your video validates what I read. Of course, the Spanish people originally born in Spain were at the top of the Social pyramid & the original indigenous people of the continent were at the very bottom of the Social. I even saw a artist renditioncaste system where people fit in society based on what ethnicities they were mixed with. This story reminds me of apartheid in Africa. The Europeans did the same thing there dividing people's rights and privileges in society by their ethnicity. It's ironic that please very religious people we're so cruel to the brothers and sisters. What a bunch of self-righteous Hypocrites...
Very enlightening
Gracias por la información. I grew up in the states and now live in Chihuahua Mex i need to learn about the place I was born
You are so beautiful. Thank you for the information 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ramón Fabié y de Jesús (1785 - November 28, 1810) was a Philippines-born New Spanish mining engineering student who joined revolutionaries in the Mexican War of Independence.
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Very good video of an important figure of Mexico and this kind of history is what should be uniting us and not Dividing us in the United States and Mexico.
President Thomas Sankara of Burkina Faso seems to be the reincarnation of President Vincente Guerrero himself.
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Love your video and I just subscribed 😊
Muchas Gracias!
Vicente Guerrero is the one that the Spaniards never caught, and pedro ascencio alquisiras was one of his right hands, people still looking for Pedro's treasure
I was not expecting this video. Very interesting lol.
I love your videos and i always have
I recently found out about this. It’s awesome. But sadly I don’t think Mexico is so progressive because I also Learned that Mexicans with African descent haven’t been counted in the census as they should. I think I saw a vlogger go to somewhere in the south of Mexico with a big population of black Mexicans and how they are so impoverished because of the cast system still today.
Vicente guerrero was mixed not full black and afro mexicans had never been counted because no mexican of any race had ever been counted, white and mestizo mexicans were also not counted not just black mexicans.
@@jacedavi4450 what are you talking about? Then who has been counted?
@@kita3256 I think they only count people and don't list their race.
@@kita3256 just population numbers in general, Mexico stopped countring race a long time ago like back in the 1920s i believe. the only people that continued to be counted by their racial background were indigenous communities.
@@jacedavi4450 Afro Mexicans have not been counted at all though. Not as Afro Mexicans but they are not counted as Mexicans.
Gracias
Thank you for speaking truth,❤️
I would like to more about Texas and Vicente Guerrero (USA). Thanks for the informative presentation.
I'd love to talk about that but you're the first asking for it...
@@LaKarencitaMX I agree. I learned about Vincente Guerrero from a Black American college professor named: Henry Louis Gates. He did a excellent documentary about Black communities in Mexico. As a Black person, do you think I would have any problems living as an ex-pat Mexico? I considering moving to Mexico early next year. Also, I want to spend 6 months in a Spanish immersion program. Suggestions? Vik (San Jose, California)
@@LaKarencitaMX I thought you might like this article:
daily.jstor.org/black-mexico-and-the-war-of-independence/
@@victoraughtiii8839 Thank you very much for that article. I wish I had found it before making the video!
I've met a few black Americans who have moved to Mexico and they tell me that they don't feel that their race is as much of an issue here as in the US.
Karencita, can you tell me who painted the "official" portrait of Presidente Vicente Guerrero? When was that picture painted? Also, can you do a different video about why Guerrero could abolish slavery in Mexico but not Texas when it was under Mexican rule?
Gracias por tu investigación, excelente
Califorina once had a Afro Mexican Goveroer and The City of Los Angeles were founded by Afro Mexican
¡Me gusta mucho el entusiamo con el cual explica!
interesting, thanks for sharing.
very good lesson gracias
Hace un año hice mi examen de ADN resulta que tengo raíces africanas aparte de Purepecha.
Guerrero was not a black man, the racist one drop of blood rule didnt/doesn't apply to Mexico. he was a mestizo (mixed) man mainly of indigenous descent with European & African ancestry. His father (scholars are divided on this) was part African & Indigenous not solely African/black. most of the images of Guerrero were post mortem, most depict him more European/light but there are some that depict him more African Indigenous with not one being truly accurate. Prieto, was not a term only for African/black people, many Indigenous people are dark skinned like me but we are not African yet we are called prietos (my mother's last name) we are not all like the indigenous people in movies some of our skin tones are real dark (dark mahogany) like my grandmother or Zapata. Tejas mainly kept slavery going because of racists slave owning American border crossers (irony) like Stephen F. Austin, that would refuse to give up their slaves and follow Mexican laws, this would ultimately lead to the secession of Texas & spark the battle of the Alamo then eventually the Mexican American war. when you call him black when he was primarily of indigenous descent, you continue the suppression of indigenous people/history which seems to never end, especial mente de nuestra gente que viene de raza indígena. He was Mestizo, primarily of Indigenous descent with some African & European ancestry.
Morelos, Zapata,Pio Pico Last Mexican governor of California were of part african descent,I've also heard that Lazaro Cardenas had African ancestors,
Studies show that most Mexicans today especially from mexico City to the south have a small percentage of african genes due to the decimation of the indigenous population and subsequent import of african slaves that mixed with the relatively few locals.lets not forget that the diseases brought by the spaniards ( not putting blame on them) killed a significant number of locals.
Most Mexicans have African ancestry
I'm a educated black man in his early 40s and I did know this because as a kid I had to go to the library to learn everything I could about black history in the Americas from slavery on up and I came across Vicente Guerrero in about 8th grade. I live in Phoenix Arizona now and I have used this little fact many times when talking with some of my Mexican co workers. It always seems to surprise them. Here's a little fact about Africans and Mexicans over 98% of all native Mexicans can trace their ancestry to at least one African ancestor. Science has proven this look it up. TV series Finding Your Roots, Black in Latin America.
I don’t know if you can call that a fact, I can guarantee you that the Native Americans had no African DNA considering they migrated to the America’s through the Bering Strait (the connection between Asia and the America’s). Any African ancestry was introduced when the Spanish brought a couple slaves which doesn’t compare to the amount they brought to let say Cuba, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, or Brazil. This explains why afro-Mexican’s are an extremely small minority.
@@55CINCO55 First you act as if you're offended by possibly have a single ancestral link of African DNA. Secondly I never said that there was a huge population of anything. Head to Coasta Chica Mexico and its like you're in Africa. Still considering the slave trade in the Americas didn't start till the 15th century and 90% of all slavery travelled thru south America and was only a institution in the south of the US and it was never legal in Canada it makes sense that there isn't a huge population of Afro Mexicans. It's also a historical fact that the reason for the African slave being brought to the Americas was because the first slaves in America were the Natives who proved vulnerable the white mans foreign diseases more so then the European African slaves. This all is fact just like the second president of Mexico being half African /African American is a historical fact. You're talking about a great migration from the north over 13000 years ago I'm talking about a great injustice of man importing man from the south up. FYI over 10 million Africans were brought to the Americas.
@Kang Slayer What does that have to do with the facts that have been scientifically proven with papers written by Ivey League professionals that back what I said. The facts still remain that over 90% of Latin people have at least one ancestral African DNA linked relative. Watch Finding Your Roots "Being Black in Latin America". I am quoting a college professor with what I wrote. The same professor who has his show Finding Your Roots of PBS. Do your self a favor and do your leg work and research before you get upset with me stating facts.
We don't know if he was black at all. All his paintings were done after his death. We have one description of him from a contemporary and it described him as tall, dark, well built. With light eyes.
He wasn’t Black. He had some African ancestry. Mexico doesn’t adhere to the one-drop rule that Anglos made up for black Americans
You sound upset
Quit trying to downplay his blackness. That’s erasure. Most Afro-Mexicans identify strongly with their blackness. You don’t speak for them.
The One-Drop Rules came after 1877
He was still of African descent not 100% but still.
European all over the world has white wash history to make them look superior to other groups and it has work I have friends from Spanish speaking countries that didn't tell their children that there grandmother or grandfather was aferican
Truly Loved hearing this and it also reminds of the history of Gaspar Yanga which a lot of people don't know of as well!!!
impressive you are definitely correct. Saludos from mexico city.
I visited his musem 3 times in Cuahiniculapa . I love Cuahi.
Really good information I'm curious about the Indians that were there before him what was life like what did they have available what had happened before
I can't believe pop smoke used this man's portrait to put on a album it's deeper than that obviously the don't teach this in American highschool's remember every morning we would pledge our allegiance period....
bro really? Was not aware, whic album?
I love this info