Resident Evil 4 Remake Review: How About Some Overtime?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Opinions about Capcom's latest horror adventure. I can't believe this series only has 4 games after 27 years! Do they make them really slow?! Watch out for that chainsaw!
(No story details, but contains comparisons that could be considered spoilers)
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I was really hoping Nerrel would give us a ‘Spooky Scale’ to know how scary the remake was. Now I don’t know how spooky scared I’m going to be.
If you can handle the original you can handle this for sure
@@rasendori20 it is not. the original is not scary at all
Not scary for me (newcomer) most of the time, just tense. But the regeneradors made me shit myself
There hasn't been a "scary" Resi since 7.
Depends on what scares you.
The early game atmosphere can be scary for some but after the opening Village fight, you mostly fight them in small groups outside of scripted events. Once the bad weather hits, the village area gets a bit spooky again as visibility drops. I personally didn't find the Castle area scary as the robed cultists kinda felt like I was just shooting Voldemort in the face a lot but that is also where you'll probably need knives or flashbangs handy to avoid instakill attacks.
The first Garrador can be scary, and the Novistadors can jumpscare you because they blend in really, really well with the surrounding area.
On the island, the Regeneradors, particularly the first two as you don't have the bio scope, are scary in how their behavior, movement style, and movement speed can change rapidly. One minute they're slow and lumbering, then suddenly they speed up and close the distance in order to rip a chunk out of Leon's neck. Even worse is how they sorta slither when knocked down and can stretch their arms pretty far to pull Leon towards them. The first Iron Maiden Regenerador will probably throw you for a loop too.
Here's a quirk I noticed... I saw a lot of ppl getting grabbed from behind way more often than I did. Kinda confused as to why
But after playing Mercenaries for a while, it suddenly hit me. Cause I'm a native Spanish speaker, I can hear the enemies yelling "Behind you!"with enough time to move out of the way. Ppl that don't know Spanish get grabbed from behind more often.
Gameplay advantage unlocked: be multilingual
Honestly, I don't know Spanish but I just noticed the audio cues since I play with headphones on. The remakes have had some great audio design when it comes to the atmosphere and being able to tell where enemies are.
Also, there's a lot of people who play without adjusting the camera for better situational awareness. Even in this video, it seems like the person playing is only focused on whats in front of Leon despite being in the middle of a chaotic assault from all sides.
I really wish they added subtitles to all the Spanish in the game, I think we only ever get it when Leon himself speaks it (which was admittedly a funny addition- how was his Spanish, btw?), But I wanna know what everyone is saying
thats actually pretty funny
My family speaks Spanish but I didn't speak it growing up until I learned it when I was older, but I still had the same advantage when I played it when I was younger when my dad happened to watch me play and translated those cues.
Him watching me play the first cutscene was also where I learned what "cabrón" means.
Really enjoy hearing your thoughts and I usually find myself nodding along with the points you make, but the criticisms on the combat really stuck out to me because I had such a different experience. Getting used to parrying and ducking grabs made swarms manageable, and I’ve been having fun getting full 150 combo runs on each of the characters for Mercenaries mode the past couple days. The main thing is to not play it like the original and take advantage of all the new tools. And playing with better controls (like mouse and keyboard) already made the game feel too easy at times, so I gotta disagree with the suggestion to have enemies get stunned the same way they did in the original. I also kind of disagree with your opinions on the characters being downgraded unless you’re strictly talking about the voice acting which is more understandable. Felt like I agreed with the rest though, especially on the desire for more new games.
Holy sh*t, you watch Nerrel content.
Yeah, I agree w the sentiment on the voice acting for sure. I think the voice acting didn't reach the heights of the original, but I'm fine with the majority of the new cast. But many characters have been improved vastly in my eyes. I don't mind the changes to Leon either - both versions of him are great to me, original or remake! Same goes with Krauser. His original voice actor did a phenomenal job, and it would have been hard to top that, honestly, but the new direction they went with, with his relationship with Leon being expanded to mentorship was super interesting. I do miss his "double-agent" agenda from the original, but I still think the new direction is interesting enough in how they played it.
Ironically, I was also baffled by the controls talk too, bc I had an issue with the movement being LESS responsive than the original, and having that "modern game looseness" to it, where flashy animations need to play out for everything, resulting in unfair hits in things like trying to make sharp turns and getting punished for it. In a game with such a fast pace, having honestly clunky "GTA Style" movement can get really frustrating, REALLY fast. It worked better in the other 2 remakes to here. The same can be said for the bloom aiming on the guns. It was far more reactive on the other 2, and focused in quicker, so the overall nerf to focus speed on the reticle honing in makes absolutely 0 sense to me, from both a gameplay and lore perspective!
The complaints about the catapult section seemed odd, they all have obvious red barrels to take them out long before you get to the cannon.
So true, king
I agree with your sentiment too, but I also have to say that I loved the soundtrack for this game. Nerrel cherry-picked a section from the game with little to no music to prove his point, even though the remake boasts a butt-ton of new and remixed tracks that add so much tension and energy to the combat sequences of the game. And I will not take any disrespect on the new remix of Mike's backup ost, that shit had me so hype during my playthrough. (water hall ost got downgraded though tbh)
I think they should remake RE4 a third time right away! Imagine the possibilities.
They did, it was called RE8. The first remake was called RE5. Then they made the fourth remake in VR. This is the fifth remake.
@@Horatio787 but they also remade re8 in vr so this actually the sixth remake and we’ll be getting a seventh remake with re4 remake vr
@@juancampos9468 Fuck that's true.
How is RE8 a remake? Lol
@@Horatio787 RE8 is a soft remake but RE5 is just a sequel, come on now
Gosh I would love a Dino Crisis remake, or any dino survival horror game.
Same, I'm starving for a great single player focused Dino game. Miss both Dino Crisis and Turok today.
just, more dinosaurs in gaming
DC 1&2 would be awesome on this engine.
They renewed the license for Dino Crisis a couple of years ago, so it isn't completely out of the realm of possibilities
@@Gruntvc a Turok 2 remake would be so fucking awesome
I'm still pissed that they removed Leon's model when your in the case menu, I liked that you can see his drip and guns equipped in the OG Re4
But you can just see it in game anyways?
@@scottbrinkman9776it made sense in the original since you couldn't freely control the camera and see Leon's face during gameplay. It would be completely pointless in the Remake, I agree.
the remake has photo mode, it isnt necessary anymore lol
@@lavanderkayyeah nah, shut up
I’m still upset RE0 or Veronica are being ignored by so many for potential 5 or 6 remakes. Those games could really used the extra polish and assistance these remakes give. We also could finally get a good game staring Rebecca or not leave characters like Billy or Steve in a mediocre place.
Steve could use a HEAVY remake. And a better voice actor.
Is RE0 any good? I like the old ones but never played that one
Considering how polarising RE5 and RE6 are, they might want to do RE0 or Veronica to be safe.
Leave Steve, he’s grating
@@AxeMain Yes, very much. It was a good send-off for the fixed-camera era of RE. It doesn't hit the highs of RER, and the villain is goofy as fuck, but it's an enjoyable experience all around.
I sure do hope they keep Games for Windows Live in the RE5 remake to keep it faithful to the original!
And Sheva's excellent AI that'd waste healing items on paper cuts?
@@Gruntvc They'd better keep the deafening sound of screaming for your partner. And especially boulderpunching.
They actually removed that in a new update just a few weeks ago. It also added split-screen support on PC. It just took them a little more than a decade.
OG’s will remember when this video was titled, “your right hand comes off?”
For the catapult section, there's explosive barrels each step of the way that you're supposed to shoot. The first spot you can aim at one is near the collapsed structure at the beginning after the cutscene, then opposite of the side of the collapsed building, then at the cannon. Also the new Ashley system adds another layer of strategy in letting her get picked up on purpose for knife kills, etc.
I've been waiting to hear your thoughts on this! Your reviews are always a treat to watch.
yes
He is a bit more negative then I usually am so its quite refreshing at times
@@captainblastems3367 But he's fair and reasonable in the negativity, instead of just salty
@@Prawnsly I fair is a hard term to describe with any reviews because they are based of personal bias and play through for example I agree with his statements on the enemy stun but I disagree with his feelings on Ashley especially pertaining to the catapult sectiok
@@PrawnslyYeah. I've seen some reviews that are just complaining simply because they didn't understand the mechanics. I wanna say skill issue so bad...
Anyways, he had reasonable negativity. I don't agree about the soundtrack and the Atmosphere and I think that they great. I always thought the original RE4 soundtrack was pretty forgetful too. Some songs are really great like Serenity but that's pretty much it. But even still I thought that it was reasonable.
I do have to say... I really wish that aiming on console was as good as on PC.
Honestly one of the main reasons I’m expecting 5 to get remade is that in Japan the remakes since 2 have been much more clearly branded as their own subseries (Biohazard RE: 2/3/4), so especially with the way they handled the setup for 5 in 4 remake I feel like it’s pretty likely they’ll ride the subseries out to the end of the original plotline (because let’s face it, the initial story pretty firmly ended with Wesker dying).
Hard to imagine the remakes being considered a subseries. I always imagined they're considered the new canon in the series, replacing their original counterparts.
But they can't remake 5 without code Veronica. If they do they'll have to change a bunch of the plot to make it make sense for people who haven't played CV. In the new re4 intro they Leon didn't even talk about the arklay mountains, which means if they remake 5 they'd have to change a lot about Wesker and Chris.
@@Enzed_ My hunch is that if they remake 5 they'll cover the relevant information from CV as a flashback. Maybe something like having the intro/tutorial segment being Chris and Claire escaping the prison island, seeing Wesker there doing his thing, then cut to Chris after 10 years of cat-and-mouse. Obviously you need to show that first meeting for 5's story to land, but considering 4 remake seems designed to be the reveal that Wesker's back in the new version of the narrative I don't think they'll be going backwards.
Also if I can throw in something less concrete, Craig Burnatowski leaked concept art of Wesker from 4 remake a while before release, and in that piece he had his arm burned from Alexia, but in the final game that detail isn't there anymore despite everything else still making it into the final design, so we know for a fact that somewhere along the line in 4R's development there was an active choice to omit references to Code Veronica.
@@Enzed_ Resident Evil 5 was the best selling game in the entire series when it came out. Meaning that for *many* people, they played RE5 without having the slightest clue on what the previous games were about. And that seemed to turn out just fine back in 2009. I don't see why Capcom would think it wouldn't again.
I think you're dead on as to why a remake of RE5 is pretty likely at this point, as much as I personally don't want it. I hope they at least have the good sense to remake RE1 over-the-shoulder though, it would be weird if that was the only entry in the Wesker story that was left out. Call it Resident Evil Mansion or something lol
I've commented this before but thank you so much for putting in the effort to add subtitles to your video's, your a real hero!
*You're a real hero.
I hate how so many people just consider remakes as replacements, like bruv its an entirely different fucking game, so glad to see someone else agrees
Although it isn't needed, it's clear that a remake of 5 is already on the horizon, already being set up by this games co-op segment with Luis, and the boat section of chapter 4, which is almost like a remake of 5's chapter 3-1 in and of itself. The mid-credits scene also hints at a remake.
Now that 4 is done, it's going to be much easier for Capcom to make what is essentially 4 in Africa. The big hurdle is obviously going to be online co-op if they choose to go down that route.
I don't need a 5 remake in my life, but to play the game with a more competent Sheva in single player, and potentially more horror-driven direction is something that I wouldn't turn down.
Tbh if 5 doesn't get splitscreen I'm not getting it, simple ass,
Wish they would remake Code Veronica first
I can definitely see your point with the characters not being as fun or good but I personally disagree with Ashley. I think the remake did a really good job with her being much more likable and much more supportive of Leon. Some of my favorite little moments of the game are when Leon and Ashley are just walking around and Ashley just comments on little things in the world. My favorite is when you’re in the castle and she says that Leon should use the armor as a bullet proof vest.
Dude just saying shit about game
Ashley was done so much more justice in the remake it's insane. I don't think her character was bad in the original, but they flesh her out far better here and I'm shocked Nerrel didn't mention it
Yeah Luis and Ashley were a big upgrade, Krauser about the same but with some good new backstory, Ada quite a bit worse, and the others (Saddler, Salazar, Mendez) in the same ballpark. Overall I think that's positive because Luis and Ashley were much bigger characters in the story than the others.
Luis and Krauser were also much better in the remake.
Luis got way more screen time and his buddy cop dynamic with Leon was fantastic. There were also files and photos delving into his backstory a lot more in the remake.
The remake showed Leon and Krauser’s training in the intro, and the mention of Operation Javier and their training together added a lot of necessary context. They even commented on each other’s tactics and tendencies in battle.
Krauser’s final moments in the remake were more emotional and made a lot more sense considering that he is Leon’s former comrade.
@@matthewzang6688 they made me actually interested in seeing just exactly what happened with Krauser and Leon in that jungle. Would make for a good DLC.
the lack of laser hallway will always be a travesty to me
Giga chad laser wall compared to beta male chainsaw barn.😂
Not me, anything that reminds me of the Alice movies should be destroyed and never remembered.
Good news.
@@Scatmanseth'fun at party' prick is here, I see
The difference in stagger is most likely due to the fact that it gets worse with higher difficulties, meanwhile the minigame is fixed to standard difficulty stats.
It’s fixed to assisted, but with aim assist turned off. You can tell by the AI being not as aggressive and the damage being relatively low.
"I forgot Dino Crisis"
So did Capcom
This is one of the only reviews that I've seen actually acknowledge the lack of I-frames and inconsistent staggering. Both of those things can make the combat very frustrating at times and actually make me hesitant in getting up close with enemies - something I've never felt while playing the original. Which is unfortunate given all the new knife mechanics added to the game that I never seemed to be able to take full advantage of without getting demolished by grabs, axe throws, pitchforks, punches and more grabs.
The different staggering and from what I’ve experienced lack of i frames is only in hardcore or professional
OG in professional didn't deprive you of those things. "Professional mode" only changed the damage you take when struck by the enemies. And in this game it turns them into bullet-sponges.
@@richtersteinberg329 I’m alright with them giving them more health, that’s typically part of increasing difficulty levels anyways in games. As for the staggering it makes it so you can’t just keep getting headshots and kicking, in my opinion taking the whole hardcore aspect out of it
lol skill issues and yeah thats called challenge, noobs...
Finally. The review I needed to see. I played the HD fan project because of you when the remake released because I’m poor but I played along my friend with the new game and it made for an interesting experience. Also gyro controls made the game play flawlessly thanks.
I think the RE4 remake is the gold standard for what a remake should be. It's pretty much just RE4, but if it were a modern game. While there is some discussion to be had about the whole idea of remaking games instead of creating new ones, I feel it is undeniable that this remake is an exceptionally enjoyable experience and, had the original never existed, would be touted as one of the greatest games of this year.
When I watch a new Nerrel video my right hand falls off
I just like hearing Nerrel talk.
5:18 There's a barrel you can see above that hallway. Shoot it, and it destroys the most problematic catapult instantly. I've 100%'d the game and that catapult section was only a pain when I neglected that one catapult.
4:44 I did a little experiment on this. So at difficultly selection, someone who has played the original RE4 is recommended to play Hardcore. In Hardcore, headshots and kneeshots don't always get an immediate reaction and a melee prompt, it can take more than one shot.
However in the difficulty recommended for newcomers (Standard), all the critical shots get a reaction on the first hit. Just like how it was in the original RE4. Except in the original RE4 this goes for all difficulties.
I only noticed and tried this after Mercenaries because, Mercenaries mode almost crucially relies on what I'll call "instant reactions to critical shots" to keep the pace and the combos going.
This tweak is a little odd to me, as if the loss of "instant reactions to critical shots" was a change to subvert expectations of RE4 veterans.
Pretty sure Difficulty adjustment effects staggers making it even more inconsistent. The aiming reticle being fully focused also affects shots staggering enemies. Kinda sucks how DA also fucks you over by making enemies almost impossible to focus shot them. The better you are at the game the less rewarding it is to play.
Damn I'm getting as frustrated watching this as I got while those things actually happened to me. Holy hell the unarmed and pitchfork enemies are ASS
You're supposed to shoot the explosive barrels before you reach the areas where the catapults can hit you in the castle segment.
Honestly the whole video is a good review but complaining about the catapult section seems more like him failing the skill check that the game throws at you.
I just love that I can say my favorite two games of all time is Resident Evil 4. I’m on the my 4th playthrough of the remake and I plan on completing it as many times as I did the OG.
The only complaint I resonate with here is the lack of stagger. It’s bad on Hardcore and it’s really bad on Professional. You can shoot an enemy 3-4 times in the face and nothing happens. Also, in Professional, enemies very much have magnetic grabs and it sucks lol. Those, I’m not a huge fan of, but that’s a minor complaint compared to the insane amount of good.
I love the different tone and characterizations and it complements the OG well. The combat is some of the best in gaming, bar none. You really have to think on your feet and pull off the execution. It pushes you in ways I haven’t felt a game do in quite a while.
God, I love this game.
I feel like the comment at the end about it being a good remix is a great comment. I personally loved it, did not have any problems with the catapults (maybe just lucky?) and the grabby issue was resolved pretty early in the game. I also feel that the whole island base section is infinitely better than the originals due to stronger pacing, controls that match the settings, expanded regenerator section, better Krauser fight, and better all around pacing. I actually found the village section to be the worst part of the game, so it’s funny how now it has the inverse problem of the original.
I feel like they could have left out the gathering heads thing in the village cause in my opinion it kinda slows the game down and makes it feel like a fetch quest lol
On hardcore at least, the village section is tedious and really annoying. Ashley almost always gets caught, and you dont have the arsenal to deal with most situations. Once you start the castle, the game becomes more manageable as you have sections which have less enemies, and you definitely have better tools to defend yourself. But it doesnt last forever. Sometimes you will need to use weapons you want to save ammo for (for example the magnum) just because the game will have set pieces that will strip you of all your ammunition.
I understand it creates tense encounters, but the original at least allowed you to have freedom on weapons you want to use, whereas the remake makes you feel like you need to scrap by barely with whatever you have. Not sure I actually like this at all...
@@desfefe Resource management is a lot easier on hardcore and professional if you set up your case and charms properly. It's really hard to do if you start off on Hardcore but if its a NG+ run, you can definitely get an advantage on crafting and enemy drops that way.
@@shinzero0271
LOL yeah but problem is that I started on hardcore.
I will be honest with you, the whole charm thing I ignored on my first playthrough because I felt like I didnt want to deal with this mini game. I never had much love for it in OG.
I dont agree that it should be part of the game mechanics though. It should be optional, or at least give us alternate ways to obtain interesting charms.
As for the cases, well I got the resources case because I thought more resources were always better. Although I dont think it was a good idea to have a crafting system in the first place, over just giving the ammo straight away, so I ended up dropping that case for the handgun ammo one eventually.
I dont accept that hardcore should be a difficulty option built around NG+ though for it to be fun. OG RE at least was built such that every difficulty option would be fun, and it is just a skill issue. It probably still is the case in the remake, but I dont know, just my experience with the game.
@@desfefe I think its less a skill issue and more of the game making it so that upgrades are actually important. The village Ganado quickly become less of an issue even with some basic pistol upgrades.
The changes to staggering enemies would've been fine if they were consistent--Mercenaries feels a little too easy with the new mobility, even with them throwing dump trucks of enemies at you, so I get why they changed it from one-hit staggers for the main game. The problem is it takes an RNG amount of headshots to stagger. It would've been great if it had just been two to stagger and it usually is on standard. On higher difficulties it's more and feels more variable, Professional is often 4+ headshots and it just feels awful. Any difficulty above Standard feels increasingly frustrating and poorly balanced.
I’ve been refreshing Nerrel’s channel constantly ever since this game came out waiting for the review.
Saaame
Suzi Hunter did an excellent review of this game, including a brief interview with Luis voice actor, who went in depth about the character and his inspirations and it really elevated my appreciation of one of my favorite parts of the remake.
Crying in the club rn watching nerrel discuss a game i havent played
I hope things get better for you, whatever's going on. Remember to be kind to yourself, as well. I believe in you, and take care.
Why are you watching this in da club
Laying your head in a Subway sandwich is not what people mean by the club.
Took me awhile to get past the catapult section but then I remembered the red barrels next to the catapults, and once you start taking them out as you advance, it's a lot more manageable.
I agree 100%, it's better than I was expecting, we didn't need this remake, but it is a very nice to have as someone who has played the original more times than I can count, having an alternate version it's great, it improves some areas, while also messing up in a few spots, like i-frames and how ganados sometimes don't react to bullets in their damn head, and then you get grabbed and stunlocked in a full combo, as you said thankfully it doesn't happen nearly enough to ruin the game and it's mostly an issue in NG Hardcore and NG Professional specially with low damage weapons, almost a non issue on NG+ or lower difficulties. This reminds of Bayonetta 2, and how that game's balance made way more sense in lower difficulties.
It's always a good day when Nerrel reviews a REmake
7:03 I hate the ptsd troup so fucking much especially for prestablished characters. Nerrel missed the perfect opportunity to edit in samus from metroid other M.
I don't like it when it doesn't make sense, but this time it gives context with the boot camp training flashback and such. Raccoon City was bad enough
I really want to see a code veronica remake and that would be the perfect close to the remake line. We got Leon and Claires story in re 2 then we got jill and now we have Leon after re 2 and now if they do Claires after math it would be the perfect close to both of these Story's. Chris is in code veronica so we got most major characters' and villains throughout the series.
I think someone mentioned it somewhere, but remaking CV would actually take a lot of talent and effort/work. Remaking a good product is way easier than a flawed one. And you feel it in this one too.
I'm on my 4th playthrough going for s+ professional rank.
Jesus fucking christ I've finally realized how awful the invincibility frames in this game are. I don't think there are any at some points honestly. You do an animation like pull a switch and as soon as the animation is finished you can get grabbed and killed. You can get fucking stunlocked and ganged like it's dark souls PvP. It's honestly beginning to ruin the game for me.
0/10 Ashley is not a tiny mouse that makes cheese puns.
The video is only 13 minutes, but so much was said. Great video, agree with you on everything.
i kind of like that there is a version of this story that i can take seriously and doesnt just feel like a giant shitpost
I personally feel that the changes to the combat were enough to pass on the Remake - it's literally the best aspect of the original game and they fucked it up. Mods have been made to try and fix it, but it still just isn't quite right.
Perhaps I'm having a senior moment but I could've swore the title of this video was something else yesterday.
It said "yes, thanks bro"
Surprised you didn't bring up the microtransactions for weapon tickets.
That was added later, plus it’s not necessarily p2w since you can have all the tickets without spending money
Had no idea the replaced turret section/red lantern section was meant to be done stealthy. I just camped out in the doorway shooting everyone as they tried to enter my room. 😅
I can't stand how no video game characters these days can just turn around, they all have to walk in a little circle or make your character animation locked to do a 180, in this one if you just press left and right and nothing else Leon will end up going all over the place and of course that comes up in combat
Yes, thank you. This right here, my god I can't stand the stiff character control in every damn game nowadays. FromSoft is the only company that still knows how to prioritise character control.
It's supposed to be "realistic", I guess...
@@XBladenoJutsu From actually does this too, in Elden Ring a perfect 180 will animation lock you very briefly. You're right tho they're not as bad as others
@@Hedgpig Nah, I played all those games. You can walk and immediately press the opposite direction and turn without pause or some weird detour to the side. The only exception is if you run, then try to turn in the same way, then there's a brief pivot animation, but even then, there's a way around it if you rotate the stick manually to avoid the pivot.
Not counting the horse btw, which has crap control, although compared to other game's horse controls, it's still better...
@@XBladenoJutsu Oh it's only on sprint? Even less of a problem then, and the only time it was ever an issue was against Malenia's waterfowl which is it's own stupid problem
Mega props to the editor. Such a long video but such careful attention to editing
You can use the -oldbigpicture command to use the older big picture/steam UI
I wonder how long that will be available, though
@@limabarreto911 I really hope they don't remove it. The new UI has a noticeable impact on performance with older hardware.
I liked RE6 movement and shooting, I wish the remakes implemented it, like the diving and laying down rolling. The quick fire by taping aim and shoot, to fire a staggering shot. I know not everyone liked the game, I personally feel like it had some of the most fun control.
I like how you keep changing the title to make it funnier.
Perhaps my only complaint is that in mercenaries mode whenever you die you keep your score. There's no penalty for losing. Also, the handcannon can be unlocked in minutes while the OG posed a way bigger challenge and in the remake Devs decided to nerf the gun like wtf?!
Revisionist history, this video was not named like it is named today
I've seen it change twice now
Standard Mode is closer to the original stagger-wise, it's weird how they say Hardcore is for those familiar with the original when it actually plays less like it than standard. I agree with a lot of your sentiments, although I actually think most of the characters are better in this version or on par, but I differ on your conclusion as I'd like to see at least CVX and 5 be remade before they stop doing remakes. First of all, it's not even the same dev teams doing the remakes and the new games, and I don't think the fact that they can't "replace" the original doesn't mean they shouldn't be made. The reasons these new remakes can't replace the originals isn't really about quality in a lot of ways, it's about a change in the level of reverence for these older games. Many of the complaints about the RE Engine remakes could actually be applied to the Gamecube remake of the original too, but fans were less concerned about everything being preserved in a 1:1 manner back then. But in the case of CVX and 5, the fact that the campaigns are less iconic means they can treat them more like new games anyway, while still revisiting the characters and plotlines the way the other remakes have. As long as they keep some of Wesker's Bond villain silliness people will probably be less bothered by every alteration.
I had zero trouble with the catapult section and I played on hardcore. I was very slow in it tho. Like clearing enemies and shooting barrels when I could from a distance.
I’ll try it again with a run and gun approach to see how it’s different to see if it’s too punishing.
Really hope there are developpers genuinely watching your content, you bring up such legit points, it's not just nerds raging in a corner unaware of how game making works, it's very aware and sensible to that. At least I think... Hopefully.
And so yeah thank you for adding your voice to sendible UA-camrs genuinely interested in improving things, with reasonable solutions. Sometimes it's upper management unaware of those problems, sometimes it's devs simply not implemening stuff because lack of time+money.
Either way it's hard to pick out the voices on UA-cam that have genuinely feasible solutions, from a sea of others, and I hope yours gets to reach the ears of some people that need to hear it. A userbase typically is the last place you want to hear technical feedback from, because everyone has their own idea of what should be, but within that userbase, there are passionate fans, that while not working in the industry, can still have legitimately good experience and insight, and those heavy users tend to be the most likely to have carefully cultivated thoughts on things. Actual valuable insight. At the very least they shouldn't be entirely ignored.
I guess that's why one goes to work in QA in the first place. But passionate nerds don't make the products, they just complain in public spaces over and over... 😁🤓
8:55 I regret to inform you, Nerrel, that the gyro aim on ps5 is even worse. You can only move the camera horizontally when the gyro is enabled, making it functionally useless because you can't do large up and down movements.
That’s hilariously awful
I just want to add that the control feel so laggy and slow. It seems like an eternity just for Leon to bring up his gun to aim or stop moving in a direction. Having more movement options seems to have come at the cost of snappier, more responsive controls.
I feel like you just completely ignored the parry mechanic being the entire thing that keeps you from being stunlocked by melee.
Nearly everything is parryable including enemies who just throw punches at you with no weapons at all, including all projectiles.
You can cancel every single animation in the entire game with the parry.
And grabs from non neck-snapped enemies are always dodgable if you crouch when they attempt to grab you.
I also think the character writing is just, better outright except for maybe Ada.
Ashley, Krauser, and Leon all have actual personalities now and far more to their story, especially Luis.
I think they balanced the goofiness and seriousness pretty well, but I guess perhaps that's alot more opinionated.
No reason to complain about the character writing in this one. Of course the story still pretty much meme, but the characters are now, well... Characters, and not superficial plot devices with cheesy funny lines. Every single one of them are likable and have at least a little background story (RE4 finally has some interesting files)
One of my biggest complain of the RE4 remake is that it takes too many shots from majority of the guns to stagger an enemy. This works well in RE2 remake because you are confronting a small amount of enemies at a time but in RE4 remake enemies just swarm and stun locking you making it unbearable to play without more consistent stagger especially at higher difficulties. I also dislike some of the changes they made to Leon general characteristics, this remake version of Leon feels weak and overall less confident which kinda defeats the purpose of his character development from a rookie cop to an elite agent.
I agree that Leon's character seem less interesting overall compared to OG but that's the price to pay for shifting to a darker and realistic tone.
There is a mod called "Resident Evil 4 Classic Gameplay" in nexusmods that makes the enemies react to bullets similar to the original game. Based on the comments, seems to works very well.
I really don’t get the complaints on Leon being weaker. He’s got PTSD on account of nearly dying in a zombie apocalypse and his one liners are clearly a coping mechanism. If anything OG Leon made no sense for what he went through. Thrown into hell again and Leon sounds like he’s enjoying the entire thing. That logic only works in B movies, which are about spectacle not character development.
I agree, I thought they did a good job when it was all said and done, but I do feel like Leon came off a lot more timid. People have often said things like it would be less realistic if he was just a joke slinging badass and all that but for the most part none of us held RE4 in such high regard for all these years because of how realistic the pyschology of the characters were, if anything the campy tone was a huge part of the charm.... I mean look at the story in the first place, the US presidents daughter is captured and taken hostage in a foreign country and they do what? Send 1 guy with a cool leather jacket and a pistol......by taxi to go save her? We weren't dealing with much realism at all to begin with. Something can be immersive and awesome without having to pass a logical reality check, that's my opinion at least. Glad to see that the game came out as such a polished product though, had a lot of fun playing it.
@Scatmanseth its been almost 20 years so it might be time for someone to tell you that RE4 (and most RE games before this recent reboot) are essentially B movies made into video games. The original concept behind Resident Evil, the series, was "take 80s American action/horror movies and combine them with flashy Japanese anime tropes" the result is a fantasy swat team with color coded body armor weilding personalized weapons in a MANSION filled with monsters. If that doesn't strike you as B movie, you might need to watch some B movies. This recent shift toward "realism" is a little boring. The writing is all very skin deep and basic, which it always kinda has been in RE games, just now it doesn't have the benifit of being absurd/flashy/funny as much as it used to. OG Leon is memorable because of how cheesily written he is. Almost every line he has in OG is memorable and I can probably recite almost everything he says from memory, even after years without touching the game. I just finished another run of RE4R recently and ngl I cant remember most of Leon's lines. He has some good ones but a LOT of the script is trying way too hard to pile on the melodrama. It has the same energy as a direct to streaming service mid-tier show you watch once, think its decent and move on. New Leon is aight, hes serviceable for the role, but OG is iconic for good reason.
I don't see the problem with the stagger system, you have to play it differently since RE4 went from pure action with a horror vibe to a bridge between survival horror and action in this remake. It was too easy and reliable in the original and acted as a win button but in Mercenaries it's good for it to still be like the original since that is pure action and double the enemies.
I disagree about that part in the beginning about RE4 - the horror is turned way down. Not RE5 down or RE6 down to zero, but still. The early parts do it right, but once you leave the first third of the game, or first quater (whatever percentage the first town and immediate surrounding areas are) it's basically just RE5 but usually handled somewhat better.
anyway, once again, the modded version of the non remake pc port of RE4 is still the best experience.
The catapult room sucks because the lighting system makes it difficult to distinguish far-off objects like the exploding barrels from the background (which is probably why the item boxes are slathered with yellow paint).
I actually came away with the opposite impression when playing this remake's Mercenaries mode, enemies probably shouldn't instantly go into their melee interact like that because it completely changes the player mindset. In the original and RE4R Mercs, because it's a guarantee that they'll be vulnerable after a head or leg shot, you are always encouraged to go in on packs of enemies to get the most value out of every bullet. When that's not a guarantee, it means having to be more careful and utilizing your whole toolkit to keep yourself from getting mobbed.
Yeah it sucks to get chain-hit by enemies when you're trying to capitalize on these opportunities, but that's probably the game's way of saying "we gave you enough bullets and grenades to keep enemies spaced out from you, stop trying to hyper-conserve all your resources". Sometimes less control over your situations leads to more engaging gameplay.
Only thing I really didn't like is the Salazar+Saddler design of having them move around all the damn time and shoot laser-beams at you. Those were just a pain in the ass.
I wouldn’t have minded the lasers if they were interruptible. As is they mostly pad out the boss fight
How does having less control lead to more engaging gameplay....we are playing a GAME....controlling is what video games are about. Doesn't make it more engaging, it makes it more fustrating.
Im fine with having less ammo but can Leon stop stumbling and bumbling around so much? The dude is a secret service agent who's been given special military training and is way bigger than he was in OG but one ganado shoves him and he can't move for like 2 whole seconds. Fucking absurd.
Special agent Leon Kennedy folks, can barely hold a gun steady and moves with comparable speed and coordination to your average drunk.
The voice acting is worse with the exception of Ashley, which couldn't get any worse than the original. The music is also worse, it's forgettable and barely noticeable. They cut out far more lines and scenes than they added. They basically took a classic B horror movie and tried to turn it into a serious drama.
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I think the biggest complaint I have with the remake is the voice acting, ashley, surprisingly enough, was about the only character I think they improved, Leon, Luis, Kruaser, Salazar, and Ada were all downgrades, Leon in OG had a cadence to his voice that made you feel like he wasn't taking things particularly seriously but he would shift to a serious tone when things were serious, remake Leon just sounds like an edgy teenager. Luis doesn't sound suave anymore, almost sounds more like puss in boots to me, Krauser used to be voiced by Jim Ward who also voiced Douge god damn Dimmadome, so that's a loss, and Ada, well, we all know about Ada
It's weird with Ada because she sounds disinterested most of the time but sounds best when she's calling Leon over the radio. It makes me wonder if it was more of a recording studio issue than anything else, like someone forgot to adjust a dial or turn on/off an audio filter.
New Leon reminds me of a Disney Marvel protagonist now, current Marvel btw. I prefer the original's 1980s/1990s action hero tone.
I swear people don't actually know what edgy means.
@@megamonmon its always been a vibe, there's never been a concrete definition
To add to this, nobody should miss that Capcom snuck microtransactions into the game after release!
first title Resident Evil 4 Remake Review: My right hand came off
second title is lost
third title Resident Evil 4 Remake Review: Equip Your Ballistics
Another edit “how about some overtime?”
The RE4 remake made me go and play the original for the first time instead.
i can't get over the push forward and watch leon slowly limp through rooms for 3 minutes section in the endgame. I know it's only 3 minutes but the absolute worst possible seasoning of 'modern gaming' to the product
Enemy stun is difficulty dependent. Crowd fights are made trivial by throwables. The segment with the catapults is much easier if you take a breath and look for the explosive barrels. Overall some great points made on a first playthrough in higher difficulty setting and I appreciate that you pointed out the PC versions problems and benefits of controls respectfully. A good arming of ballistics
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As much as I like the Remakes graphics and gameplay wise, I can't for the life of me understand why they cant have a decent soundtrack.
I hope we get a Dino Crisis remake soon. Capcom wants to keep this gravy train going, so they might consider it if they know how to market it.
im surprised you said Leon feels better to move around in the remake; he moves like RE2R leon with inertia and deliberate animation and input lag between actions, ie he will only start sprinting half a second after the button press. OG Leon is completely snappy and responsive
100% agree with this. He feels much worse in this version
I concur, especially considering that the stun animations are so inconsistent. Combining this inconsistency with Leon’s lag in moving towards them (and overall slower movement), getting a melee attack in feels more difficult than it needs to be. I’ll either start running only to find that they’re not stunned and set myself up to get grabbed, or I’ll have to wait to see that they’re stunned before I can start moving towards them. Even at a relatively short distance they’re often out of the stun animation by the time I get there and I’m a sitting duck. Overall the inconsistency of the enemy design messes up a lot of the game for me. That’s something that people forget about the OG. It may feel “dated,” a term that I hate, but Leon’s movements are in synergy with the enemy design. These tank controls take getting used to, but they work with a consistency that R4Make lacks. Granted I haven’t finished it yet. Maybe I’ll get used to it by the end. Still, I’m tired of all these annoying weirdos who are so easily impressed by something new and shiny that they act as if this new one is somehow, “objectively better,” another term I hate, than the OG.
Also, I hate how the camera swings around when you get grabbed. I preferred the quick cuts of the original. And the OG doesn’t have MTX, also helping it in my estimation.
Can’t agree with your take on Krauser, he hasn’t been down graded at all. But that’s just my opinion ❤️🙏🏻
8:46 100% agree. As a console gamer transitioning to PC, and still uses a controller for fps games, this helps so much. This should be industry standard.
Most honest, to the point review I've seen. No one else highlighted the issues with the gameplay changes, how the game is full of instant grabs and the insane tankiness of the regular ass ganados. Thankfully there's mods now that can make enemies react to bullets more like they did in the original.
Oh and you can use the original steam input controller layout if you put your steam desktop app in small mode.
i was hoping for Nerrel to review this ! and im not disappointed .
Couldn't agree more, in fact this is the only honest review I've seen.
8.5 is a very fair score.
It's a good game but it has some very noticeable issues for me.
- The removal of certain dialogue and scenes under the pretence that Leon has PTSD and the game has a more serious tone is a complete joke. Leon has more puns now than in the original game as he also pops them off during gameplay. "adios amigo" "sorry ladies, I'm a one gal type of guy" etc. They removed pivotal set pieces like the lava room, giant Salazar statue and laser hallway, and none of the replacements they put in were as good or memorable. There is no shift in tone at all for 99% of the game, so its just an excuse they used to remove things.
- The PC wokeness like removing Leon's "women" line and Luis' "ballistics" line, when they were not unrealistic or shoehorned in in the original game and made sense for the characters is a shame, after all the things Ada has done Leon isn't allowed to make any jokes apparently. The thing that makes it even more of a joke is they now added jiggle physics to Ashley (literal ballistics) that are over the top and unneeded, so again its more excuses.
- The atmosphere and level of detail in general especially due to sound design is no where near the original, or other games in the series like 7. There is definitely a noticeable absence of a lot of the original life the game had, even when you factor in the updated graphics. ALL voice acting isn't up to scratch of the original, except Salazar, who actually has a Spanish accent instead of sounding like a cartoon. Look at images of the water room side by side with the remake version and you will understand the lack of detail. The soundtrack is good, but most of it blends together its not like an old resi game where you could finish and remember certain songs from certain areas, although it is a step up from the other remakes. The original soundtrack is definitely better.
- It's definitely not the first game to use it but the yellow boxes thing has to stop. Handholding in adult rated games is stupid enough, but you could make them brighter like the original game, or put cult symbols on them or something more in-universe. The whole game im wondering who would paint all these boxes yellow, and where did they get all this paint, not to mention why would someone highlight everything useful for me.
- In terms of additions story wise, everything is done through Files you find in the game. There was a couple of cutscenes where i noticed new footage (Saddler influencing your mind or the Ada and Luis conversations) but most cutscenes have been shortened or dumbed down slightly.
- The upped enemy speed is good. Very good in fact. But the constant grabbing is boring with how frequent it is, and the non reaction to headshots a lot of the time makes the enemies feel more bullet spongy than the original. You could argue the dodging and parrying make up for this, but for people who wanted to add more realism into the game its strange you can now slide at velocity into groups of enemies spraying away.
- There are other smaller issues like filling Salazar's throne room with chickens just because there is a side quest involving throwing an egg at a photo in that room, or the opening cutscene showing a woman beheaded that you can find later in the same spot dead but with a head this time, weird things like that.
All in all its amazing game and a good take on RE4, and 8.5 is a very fair score.
I'm just fed up of everyone on the internet acting like this game is a 10/10 and the next coming of God, because it really isn't. I don't know if everyone has been paid off to say how amazing it is, but it is no where near as good as people are making out.
A lot of this mirrors my thoughts on the remake, although my opinions differ on a few things. Gameplay-wise, I think this might be the best of the modern RE titles, although I do have my issues with it. I find Leon to be a bit too weight-y and sluggish for my tastes. One of my biggest pet peeves with a lot of modern games is making player characters less responsive in order to have more natural-looking animations. I think it works for a horror game like the RE2 remake where the locations you are exploring are incredibly dense. But, in a more action-focused title like this, I'd prefer to have more movement speed and responsiveness. So, while I would say that the controls of the remake feel more modern, I wouldn't necessarily say they are better than the original.
That's not to say that it ruined the game for me though. The combat is great fun and I can't stop playing Mercenaries. I actually appreciate how arcade-y they made it feel compared to the main game. I might even end up putting more time into it than the main game because of how much fun it is.
That being said, I don't think the modern RE approach to story presentation works very well here. While you could argue that the writing is technically better in several areas, it removes a lot of the campy charm of the original for me. Please don't misunderstand me when I say this, but I think I genuinely prefer the story in RE Village than the RE4 remake. That's absolutely not to say it's a better game than the RE4 remake, not by a longshot. However, I appreciate how its story took bigger risks and committed to them, making the story more memorable for me.
The RE4 remake's story just plays things too safe for my tastes. It doesn't completely remove the camp from the original, but it doesn't fully commit to it either. This makes the story feel like it lacks an identity of sorts. However, I was having too much fun playing the game for this to be much of an issue for me.
You know, what bothers me is that the most freedom you've had and smoothest flowing combat you can get is in Re 6, and somehow capcom is unwilling to bring back this mobility again. Should have done it for Remake 4. The game for Re 6 was bad, but the combat was fun at least, and everyone can praise the game for it.
Hearing the 2005 Save Room music makes me tear up. It was the memory of the time that does it to me. The score was so unique in that game and of the time..I want to feel like that again..
I personally adored what they did to Krauser. I never had any attachment to the original, and now I'm fantasy crafting a moveset for him in a VS game. They actually use Darkside Chronicles to flavor his backstory, and him being the one to kill Luis is way better than Saddler using his hentai penis to kill our boy. He's also my favorite in Mercs mode, he has a fucking Stinger from DMC (fits with him quoting DMC3 Vergil).
Saddler was also improved for me: yeah he had more of a jovial personality but his motivation was just "America bad", which fit the 80s action movie tone but like is pretty boring to me.
Salazar was a straight downgrade, I like his voice but wish there was more back and forth than just all crammed into his boss fight.
I think new Krouser kinda works if you see his changes as Devil May Cry references, though is certainly weird they gave him so many Vergil lines, is not like remake Leon is particularly more Dante like either.
Thank you for addressing the stunlock nerfs making combat jank.
It feels like all everyone has wanted to do is either criticize or praise the tonal changes. I appreciate hearing at least one voice acknowledge what felt like ruined this game outright for me.
Also noting that they passed over the more obvious remake candidate with Veronica.
I had an awful time with the catapult section as well. And then I found out you can just shoot the red barrels next to each of them as you progress, making them a non-issue. I was pretty annoyed I busted my balls in that section until I got the best RNG only to figure out it really isn't that difficult if you know what to do
Isn't that also how it was in the original?
@@megamonmon yeah I'm pretty sure it was, but i guess i just gave it a quick glance and didn't see it so figured it was another change
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I wouldn't say better controls, just "modern". I like the challenge of navigating the tank controls. There's a certain feel to the games that i enjoy, and i would hate to lose that.
having played the original again to get ready for the remake i greatly miss the tank controls honestly
if you like grouping 5 zombies up, shooting one of them in the head to stagger, roundhousing all 5 of them to the ground, and slashing them all with the knife, you can't do that in the remake much. They made head/leg shot staggers happen randomly now, the knife breaks and drains your money all playthrough, and the enemy AI is so aggressive that you don't have much time to stagger. Its just a shooting game now with running away to make space, sometimes you can do a kick but not as often, the stars in game need to align to allow that. Wouldn't bother with the remake if you like the feel of the original. Those old tank controls (rigid, yet super fun and satisfying to master, classic Japanese action game controls of the ps2 era) are gone for yet another modern, realistic and muddy feeling game.
The tank controls are always something I just tolerated in the OG RE4, I am glad we have something with a more responsive movement system now.
@@ZodiacEntertainment2 The movement system changes the gameplay feel overall. So i understand why you might prefer the remakes gameplay. Tank controls aren't for everyone. But they are for me.
I don’t like the internet thinking you can only have 1 of 2 opinions when it comes to remakes. (Not in reference to you nerrel, I enjoyed the review)
Either it completely replaces the original and nobody should ever play the original again or it’s complete garbage and nobody should play it.
There’s a lot I like about the remake but there’s moments in the original they just can’t redo or replace for me. I don’t think it’s perfect, nor do I think it’s soulless.
While I don’t fully agree with the review I’m glad you at least were able to give it a fair chance.
edit: I would like to add that I’m very glad that with this game, the original is on all modern platforms so you have a choice as to which you can play.
Another thing worth mentioning is that capcoms remakes don't replace the original. There is novelty and value in experiencing the OG resident evil games. I just wish Capcom released the original version of resident evil 1 and 2 as well as the dino crisis games on modern consoles.
I haven't seen people discuss how much worse this game feels in close quarters combat. The original handled that much better, the remake just feels like you're getting slapped around until you get a second to sprint away lol
If you’re bad, then yeah
@@ethanbailey1956 if you're good you never do melee unless necessary because hitstun is godawful and crowd control with it is somehow worse than the original
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 hitstun is only inconsistent on hardcore or pro, and I think it’s better that way because the option isn’t there to just cheese encounters by repeatedly headshotting and kicking enemies. I haven’t noticed the crowd control with melee being a problem, I can knock down enemies when I need to
To me the biggest blow was (and I am really wondering why absolutley nobody is mentioning that) that Salazar is basicly just a boss fight now! He is barely in the game, there are no radio conversations with him anymore for some reason, they took an awesome character, and said "yeah, we don't need him" Dude, no! This to me, is a huge no go and needs to be adressed! There will be people who will only play this and never even think to touch the original, and they have no clue what they will miss: he took the already best part of the game, and added so much more character to it, and now it is shamefully swept under the carpet, like it was a mistake in the original!
Overall I do enjoy the remake and I think they did a good job with it, but that one honestly pissed me a little bit off!
I watched you RE2 video this morning even though I just watched it like a month ago. And then I thought “can’t wait for his RE4 video.”
This is my first RE game and I love the game a lot.
An ideal remake should keep at least 95% of the content of the original. So I think judging from a remake standpoint the ranking would be: RE1R, Dead Space Remake>RE4R>RE2R.
It's a shame that some setpieces were removed, death scenes were censored, but what bothered me about the remake is the lack of polishing by the developers: the game has bad hit detection (ua-cam.com/users/liveUOonbfhrSOA?&t=2h08m42s), enemies attacking from off-screen (something that was fixed in other action games like Devil May Cry 4, in 2008!) and not having the option to put a laser sight on all weapons (especially that the laser removes the crosshair bloom). Del Lago could be improved too, since the fight against him remains the same in NG+, the game could give you an opportunity to use other weapons.
I honestly disagree with pretty much all your criticisms here, but I always love hearing your thoughts on games. Great video as usual!
So if they cut U3 did they also cut the pre-fight banter where Leon calls Saddler SMALL-TIME? that is upsetting if true 😢
U3 is in the dlc
Characters like Luis, Ashley, and Krauser got HUGE upgrades in the remake. Luis gets a lot more screen time, and his buddy cop dynamic with Leon is great. Krauser is also given a lot more context and backstory with mentions of Operation Javier and his training with Leon. The remake’s lore and story is better overall.
Great video! I will say, however, that it was strange you didn't mention parrying during your gripes with the combat and decided to mention it for later sequences like the Krauser fight. I honestly believe the direct solution to your issues with stunlock and overbearing crowds is to use your knife and parry. Of course, these concerns can still be valid when your knife breaks but I think that only raises the intensity of each encounter.
I would also like to add that parrying is not hard at all unless you are on professional
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Eeeeeeh... nah. I would not say that the controls are much better than in the original. Sure, to be able to move while aiming is nice, but overall Leon's movment is kinda clunky and have too much innecesarry inertia to feel comfortable, especially with such agressive enemies. The dude is also kinda slow. Call me wrong, but I think that he is even slower than Ethan was in RE: Village. And it also feels that the game straight up eats your inputs sometimes.
When I played it, I interpreted the groups differently. Rather than being stuck in a massive groups of zombies being a challenge to solve, it was rather where you we’re supposed to be at a massive disadvantage, and the key to the combat was staying mobile and stealthy so that you could avoid that exact situation